2004 Reports [Archive] - Argentina Private

Carpediem

01-06-04, 23:02

Well, here is my first report to wsgforum. I've benefited greatly from the postings here and I hope that this one will be of good use to others as well.

Thanks to Jackson (whom I unfortunately didn't have a chance to meet) and Roxana (whom I did meet) for making visits to BsAs more exciting.

For better understanding of what follows, let me mention that my spanish is rather rudimentary.

Evening 1, I tried first with the apartments. However, due to holidays that didn't work out very well. The madam from Santa Fe 2036, 2A waisted some of my time by promising girls that never arrived. Oh well. Btw, it's ok to just show up at the door and ring the bell. I was there around 10pm or so. The madam speaks quite good english.

Next stop was motivated by my curiosity about the place where the girls sit at a bar with their culos up in the air - Affaire (the other one) at Pueyrredon & Paraguay. Well, previous reports were reliable. 15$ for a mandatory drink and 80$ for 30 min upstairs. There were 6-7 girls (average 6-7) and 2-3 guys around 11:30. Bad atmosphere and quite boring (except for culos). Since I actually liked one of the girls (E... from Paraguay, young looking, long black hair), I waived her over and she explained the rules (already posted here). Upstairs, she did it all with a smile, which was quite nice in such a non-inspiring environment. CBJ and regular sex. No english there, btw. She told me that none of the girls spoke english (I haven't checked that). I guess the girl was quite new there since she even didn't know what "servicio completo" meant - she actually denied verbally that she provides "that"', although luckily her acts were quite different.

Next, after some dinner, I went to Solid Gold (Madaho was closed, and at that point I didn't know where the other clubs were). $25 for two required drinks. Well, go there only if you a masochist. The scene is worse than in similar clubs in usa, and that's not easy. High pressure. Almost no english. Boring show performed by bored girls. And don't repeat my mistake of sitting at the bar where the bartender can knock you at a shoulder tenderly (or not so tenderly) encouraging you to buy $30 peso drinks for whichever girl is attacking at that point.

The following day I had first of my appointments previously arranged by Roxana (btw, the choice of the ladies was mine). Natalia, from nivel59.com. Two hours, $300. I would bet that the girl who showed up was actually not the one on the web site, but she looked (almost) as good as the other one, so I didn't complain. Toll, blond/brownish hair, 25 years old or so, long beautiful legs, nice tits, great butt. Dressed sexily but tastefully, look 9+. Very basic english, but she made it up with pleasant personality, and by natural or practiced ability to communicate via body language... She provided dfk, bbbj which was just great, good sex, nice chat, more sex and bbbjtc. Great gfe. Finally I got a complete body massage I didn't even ask for. Strongly recommended. If you decide to go for her, tell her hi from the `dulce' guy (of course, the only one :) ) for excellent service. Btw, it helps to have some fine wine handy. I noticed that Chateau Vieux '95 does wonders. $16 pesos a bottle in the local supermarket. What a country! [I got some photos of Natalia. If she agrees I will post them in the photo section.]

The following day I had a city tour with Roxana. Very nice. Depending on your previous knowledge about the city she will take you to the places you don't know yet. Thanks Roxana, I really enjoyed talking to you. Good luck!

Well, now not such a great part. Roxana arranged another appointment for me for the same afternoon (4pm) with Morine, again from nivel59.com. After the tour I went to have a coffee and got back at 3:45. Whom do I find at the reception desk - well, Morine arguing with the hotel staff about letting her in or whatever. They wouldn't of course. Pretty unpleasant situation, since apparently some tension had developed before I even arrived. Bad start. First time ever somebody arrived ahead of time in Argentina... Anyway, Morine: heavy makeup for early and hot afternoon... made me a bit worried. Her face is partially covered at nivel59... it's always a bit tricky going for an escort `without' face. Not that anything is wrong with it, but not my style. Regarding the rest of her appearance (7-8) the info at the web site appears to be accurate. $100 for 1 hour with the possibility of extension. I got a professional (if mechanical) bbbj, and sex that started with her climbing on me in reverse so she could watch tv. Well, how inspirational. I reversed the situation quickly and let her earn her money (or part of it). She was still trying to watch the tv though. Lost cause. I finished (pun intended) the whole story quickly, and spent the rest of time having her teach me the names of all the body parts in castellano. Now I'm an expert! My recommendation - look somewhere else, except if you are need spanish lessons.

Since this experience wasn't the most exciting one, I decided to spend my last night in BsAs checking out some more boliches. The earlier report about the no-name place at Los Heras made me curious so I went there. Unfortunately, I also don't remember the exact address but the no-name place is between Aguerdo and Laprida, half a block south from Puerto Colon (another boliche) at 2435 Las Heras. I walked in there around midnight, being the only potential customer surrounded suddenly by about 7-8 confused 19-20 year olds. Looks 5-8. Quite entertaining situation it was. I told the part-time bartender, Erica, that I knew about the place from this forum, and she was very impressed (and confused) by the power of internet... apparently the business is not really going very well, and they could use some advertising. I suggested that they should start with giving themselves a name... The cover is 20 pesos for one drink, chica's drinks are 30 pesos but they are not aggressive about it (much more relaxing than Solid Gold). They have complete nude strip-show which is actually kind of cute because girls are so young and inexperienced. The bad part is that Erica was one of only two girls who spoke any english at all. So one couldn't get her or the other girl out of there since nobody would be able to translate... a pity perhaps, since she is a sexy one (hope she reads this!), although definitely not your typical boliche dancer.

I hooked up with Romina (not sure about the spelling, but she is not any of the Romi(y)nas from platynum), 20 year old very cute petite of, if I understood right, mixed ethnic origins (including some arabic blood). She was a bit quiet, but I decided, luckily, that was due to inexperience. She is blond/brownish, very young looking. Reminded me on my Puertorican girlfriend of years back who was a great fuck... So I got her out of there, with the boss Erica playing a negotiator, which was a bit weird. Apparently girls there don't really decide on the amount... I don't quite understand. Anyway, Erica started from $250 an hour. Just tell her that $150 is maximum and she will go for it if the night is slow as this one was (although it was Saturday). You can always give the girl a tip if you feel like it. Romina, despite earlier shyness, turned out to be quite into it. Again, the wine from the above helped to break the ice... We started with a joint shower which was quite nice. Continued with heavy petting, and (to a bit of my disappointment) cbj. She made it up by being (or appearing to be) really into it. Btw, if somebody who speaks good spanish and has more time sees her, please teach her how to put a condom on... she will otherwise get herself in trouble. Anyway, we continued by a long and nice sex which we both enjoyed a lot (or she is the best acting 20 year old I have ever met).

To conclude, if you can deal with a not so experienced little girl who speaks only spanish, Romina is a great choice.

Well, that was my three days in BsAs. I'm looking forward to coming back in two weeks or so. Would be glad to meet whoever is around on Jan. 17th, Saturday. Let me know.

Actually, if somebody could recommend a nice hotel with a private jacuzzi and visitors-friendly stuff, that would be great. I see Etoile mentioned. Anything else?

Salud!

Guille5

01-07-04, 04:53

Guys,

I am going to BA Feb. 28 for about 10 days. If you need to send something, let me know. I also would like to meet some of you for dinner and some adventure. I live in California but I am an Argentine speaking both En. and Sp. see ya there.

G.

Hi Guille,

Send me an email when you get to BA.

jackson@wsgforum.com

Thanks,

Jackson

Mickey Mouse

01-07-04, 11:19

Coming Soon:
My Night as a Male Prostitude!

OttoGraham

01-07-04, 12:29

Nice report, Carpediem, the first of many contributions, I hope. Welcome to the fraternity.

Yours in the bond,
Uncle Otto

Prokofiev

01-07-04, 13:00

Carpediem,

Why in hell do you have the TV on in the first place?

Music = yes/maybe , TV = never.

Your friend, -P

Exon123

01-07-04, 14:51

Exon Reporting: That o boy Mickey, your check is in the mail for your serviceing of Angela as I don't expect you to work for nothing. And I hope by this writing the deed is done and she met your expectations. Course YMMV is just as real as Murphy's Law and each girl react's differently to each Monger, but Angela is no rookie and Im assuming she preformed as advertised. ------ Also Im sure the board is waiting for your report on the experence so don't keep us hanging forever, we need to read your report on this matter -ASAP --- Ive been in contact with Roxana and her question was " do you really want to share Roberta ? " My answer was " Yes " so as I understand it the two of you have something set up for Thursday. Roberta is your reward over and above the hundred bucks I just mailed you, for Roberta is the very best of the best. No one, but no one can Fuck and Suck like Roberta. And here again I look forward to your report --- I will now sleep better knowing Angela has her rent money --- Keep us posted Mickey --- Exon

Jaimito Cartero

01-07-04, 15:43

Prok - I'm sure that it was her favorite tv show, and that's probably why she showed up early for him. :) If they want to watch tv afterwards while cuddling, fine, otherwise, fuhgetaboutit!

Thai girls are much worse than girls from Argentina. I'd have to unplug tvs there, hide remotes and all sorts of stuff as they would try to "fix" the tv, or call downstairs!

OttoGraham

01-07-04, 15:47

I am pleased to report that on my last trip to town, one chica willingly watched Sunday Night Football with me on the TV, for no extra charge. ;)

-Uncle Otto

Mickey Mouse

01-07-04, 16:47

Exon,
I would first like to thank you for entrusting me with one of your favorites and the opportunity to experience the other side of this hobby we all enjoy. In planning my get together with Angela, I wanted her to enjoy an evening similiar to what Exon may provide for someone so special. So I made reservations at La Brigada; one of your favorites, for myself, Angela, Stormy and his companion. Yes Exon, Stormy agreed to join us so he could make sure I didn´t stumble during my mission.
It didn´t take long for everyone to warm up and enjoy the evening. Maybe it was the bottles of wine, the ambiance, the appetizers or maybe it was (OK, everyone that knows Exon please picture this) when I sat back in my chair, put my glasses on top of my head, began waiving my hands around and doing my best impersonation of Exon ordering his pre-dinner Beefeater Martinis. Laughter followed and the ice was broken.
After dinner and an apertivo, it was time to return to the Hotel and perform my duties. Your description of Angela was; for the most part in my humble opinion, pretty accurate. She is slim with a very nice figure, all natural and is a "Very" Sensual Woman. She enjoys all the activities and is extremely skilled and attentive. The girl can ring Anyone´s Bell and is very receptive to being pleased as well. We spent a couple hours covering the "Hobby Alphabet" and I knew it was mission accomplished when she took my hand, placed on her chest so I could feel the rapid pounding of her heart. What I didn´t realize when I accepted this mission, was that when I opened the door it was just not Angela, but Angela Landsbury.
I hope I performed well for you my friend. My belief is Angela is "Very Grateful" for your gift and she does care for you immensely. I did my best and I must admit, I was elated to see it was only 2:30 am when she went home and I still had time to find someone more my type to finish off the night.
I have a new found respect & appreciation for the providers in this hobby who care us wayward souls.
Until next time,
MM reporting from BA

Dick for Brains

01-07-04, 19:06

Carpediem,

Sounds like the boliche with no name on Las Heras is the one I reported on 12/30/2003. The entrance fee in this place is quite variable. The second night I was there, the outside bouncer at the top of the stairs ASKED ME how much cover I paid the previous time. It looks like they size you up before deciding what the cover is - true price discrimination. Anyway, they charged me 15 pesos for 1 drink or 20 for two.

There is a true bevy of young 18-20 year olds in this place. Again it's on the same block and on the same side of the street as Puerto Colon on Las Heras in the direction towards core boliche action in Recoleta. Curious if anyone else has checked out this boliche. The first time I was there, there were several really stunning 18 year old girls early in the evening.

DfB

Exon123

01-07-04, 19:46

Mickey Mouse I will be forever in your debit, Thank You, Thank You from the bottom of my heart Thank You --- Now I will sleep tight knowing Angela has her rent paid for another month --- As I told you by telephone she's not the most beautiful girl in Buenos Aires, shes not even a girl, shes a woman --- But hear again theres something about her that is truly genuine and unique and that my friend is her attraction to me --- As you know, cause weve spent sometime Mongering together, I perfer the more monogamic type of GFE which I found both in Carolina and Angela --- Carolina being a amature or semi pro and Angela being a pro, but a pro with a big heart --- Yes a ***** with heart thats it--- At any rate you read the e-mails she sent me and I have no dought she really needed the money to pay her rent and the hundred bucks I just mailed you means nothing to me but everything in the world to her --- So every body wins and whats wrong with that --- Please feal free to try Roberta, again as we spoke by phone I truly think you'll like her --- She has the figure of one of those old Play Boy drawing and the biggest natural tits that are perfect in shape --- Also shes a Brazilan which in my opion are the best preformers, but there again YMMV --- I know cause its hard picking up strange women and having sex with them, He,He,He --- Hey pick up the phone and say hello to Carolina for me --- And many,many Thanks my good friend ---- Exon

One Tree Hill

01-07-04, 21:20

Exon,

You are killing me with this heart felt feeling stuff... :)

Seriously, I know how you feel. My last trip in Nov. which was only my second, I ran into a GFE from a semi-pro. We hit it off and have had several phone conversations. I cant wait to return. I hope to go in FEB sometime. I think about her everyday and it always brings a smile. Oddly enough my initial thoughts of her are not even sexual. Just her way and her smile.

Cheers!

Party BMW

01-07-04, 23:34

Hey Guys

I will be in BA from Jan 28 -31. I would like to form a group to go bar hoping one of these nights.

Lets meet for dinner in Recoleta and then...

Any takers?

Jackson, I would like to meet you again but I know you will be in the States those days.

Emeritus

01-08-04, 06:17

Hello

I am trying to find out what it would cost to fly in central and South America.

From BA to Rio

From Costa Rica to BA

Any ideas from the locals and xpats thanks

Chris

Pm if you like.

Why don't you just look up the fares on Travelocity.com?

Mickey Mouse

01-08-04, 19:53

Uncle Otto,
It looks like once again we will be passing by in opposite directions at 35,000 ft. I have heard many good things about you through the BA Grapevine and I am sorry to miss you. Hopefully next time we will be able to share a drink, break bread and do some exploring together.
Exon,
You never cease to amaze me you dog. You have me service one of your favorites; who looks great for a 50 yr old and definitely Not My Type, then you send me Roberta for a reward. Let´s understand something here ... Next time ... I Will Do Angela ... And her Mom if that means I get Roberta in return. She is a Natural Wonder! Watch out, I may try & take her from you.
To the Board,
In my first 74 hrs, I have had the pleasure of meeting Nathalia, Brenda, Angela, Fabiana (not yours Exon), Norma, Susie and Roberta. One thing remains a constant, their seems to be an abundance of talent and the Best Girl/Guy ratio I have seen in my 5 trips here. The prices have ranged from 70p to 300p for a minmum of 1 hr up to 10 hrs. Once again, there is Absolutely No Correlation between Prices & Performance Quality. I could easily spend all of my time during my last 8 days with 3 of these girls, but I have vowed No Repeats in the first week. That is going to be a tough vow to keep.
Until next time,
MM
PS. I think Stormy is getting a little beat up keeping an eye on me!

Exon123

01-08-04, 21:42

Mickey Mouse --- As ive said before Roberta is simply the best --- Im glad you liked her --- Never in my life have I ever met a woman who can fuck like Roberta --- She let me take a couple of 35 mm snapshots of those tits of hers which I now use to " Whack Off " too rather than the internet --- I have memmories of Roberta so vivid Im getting wood while Im writing this he,he,he --- But anyway Roberta was your reward for helping me out with Angela --- And your right Angela is not on the "A" team and would starve too death in Madaho's or Black but Exon is a softy and theres just something about the woman that touch's my heart --- Now don't be posting Roberta's phone number on the board cause theres a bunch of mongers out there I don't want touching Roberta --- Im getting like Jackson --- Give Carolina a call for me and tell her " Mucho Amor " --- And keep us all posted --- Exon --- P.S. I know OttoGram personally and he's not only an excellent monger, but moreover, he's a true gentleman

MagicHat

01-08-04, 22:35

Probably more detail than we wanted Exon :-)

Anyway...just wanted to let the board know about the new deal on AA....fly from NYC and I think also Boston to either Florida or California twice between now and April and you get a free ticket anywhere in the world.

Check it out on their website.

MH.

Elvis

01-08-04, 22:57

MM, good to hear from ya ! So, what's this all about.. "Best Girl/Guy ratio I have seen in my 5 trips here" Such beautiful words.. :)

Exon, you sure know how to pick em'.. Fabiana is very nice! I wouldn't mind exploring "tus amores" when I return in April (got to see the clasico- Boca vs. River and chicas of course)

Marcos

01-08-04, 23:43

I want to reccomend against Cocodrile, the infamous after-hours boliche in Palermo. The rumors are about you being able to get a Black or Madaho's class girl for a fraction of the price. Well my experience is quite different. The first time I was there the place was packed with semi-drunk guys and few ugly and pushy girls. I recognized a few from Shampoo, not to mean they were more attractive by any means. A slight better looking one, getting out of a taxi asked for ar$ 200. We quickly left. The second time wasn't better either. A semi-decent looking girl said she works at her place only and didn't wanted to come to my apt. As I spent already ar$ 40 for two drinks (more than in Hook for example), I asked another one and she agreed for ar$ 100 and I would need not to buy more drinks. But the attitude received from the guy at the cash register was unbearable, and I was even asked to pay there. So once again I cut losses and went home alone.
Flash from other places. Madaho's selection is quite scarce. But I finally went to Black! We staged a little theatre to make sure the taxi driver received his commission, as it was a slow night for him. Inside, I would certainly brought home 4 or 5 girls, but the one I've asked had the face to ask for ar$ 500! A funny note, it took a samba dance and quite of chat for me to recognise Brisa, a young hottie I knew in Hook last February. She must be happier now having climbed to the top of the clubs pyramid. Not sure how much she charges now, but look for a little brunette, tight body and pretty face. That's all folks!!!

Jaimito Cartero

01-09-04, 02:13

Elvis - I'm pretty sure (80%) that I'll be in BA in early April also. For 7-10 days, I think. Let me know what dates you'll be there. I'm unsure of what day Easter falls on, and don't know if it will be a good time to go or not.

Mickey Mouse

01-09-04, 21:09

I´d like to second Stoly´s opinion of Cocodrile´s. I got lucky in there one night, but it is not the norm. There are some pretty seedy characters and a friend of mine was also hassled by a doorman once too.
News Flash: When I was in Madaho last night at 1:30 am and all of a sudden the lights came up, the music went silent and the police starting going around interviewing different people (girls & guys). I´m not sure what was going on except maybe the cops were doing a little shakedown of the management, but noone was allowed to leave. After about 30 minutes I went up to a cop and told him I had to leave to get back to my hotel and they let me out of there. I will check it out tonight.
Off to Mar de Plata on Monday for 2 nights of exploration. Any suggestions would be most welcome,
MM

Stormy

01-09-04, 21:27

Mickey Mouse said: "I think Stormy is getting a little beat up keeping an eye on me." I would agree. Being a morning person and I do not mean 4 am and trying to keep up with the Mouse is completely wild but you do meet some very interesting people. The Mouse says I am a good companion because he can use me as an excuse to get away from a chica: he tells her he has to take me to the hospital or something. Last night after dinner we were headed out again and just happened to be walking by Florida and Paraguay and I took off with my dear friend Maria. Not much imagination on my part, perhaps, but my liver sent me a nice thank you note.

Exon123

01-09-04, 22:18

Stormy you have to be nuts to even try to keep with Mickey. The man is a machine he keep's going & going like that bunny on T.V. You should run on your own time frame. Ive tried and simply can't do it. Yea I can keep up for a couple nights but after that I can't take those 3 & 4 am. evenings. I hope your headed dowm to Mar de Plata since we all want a report ---- Exon

Andres

01-10-04, 10:55

Laprida 947 website:

I found out that the private apartment of Laprida 947 (one that I reported before) has its own website.

www.laprida947.com.ar

Girls used to be average and facilities, very poor, although service is highly rated and sometimes you find a gem.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Stormy

01-10-04, 13:45

On Cocodrile from November:

I really did not like this place. It was packed with people, the sound system was deafening and the smoke was like a fog.
I talked with three women there. The first was totally stoned and kept saying "one hundred American dollars" over and over and staring at something over my shoulder. The second was asking me to take her home with me, but I didn't want to and the noise was so great I couldn't make her understand. The third was cute but a local fellow sort of pushed right in front of me and started kissing her. He was pretty sturdy and I backed off. I was with the Mouse and he found a nice girl and as we were leaving the doorman insulted us in Spanish and then asked for a tip. His tip was a hearty "Fuck you". I will not be inclined to repeat.

Stormy

01-10-04, 14:02

Report on Santa Fe 1707

Yesterday afternoon I had Marianne from 1707 come over to the hotel (Grand Boulevard) for a little afternoon party. She is brunette with a lovely slim body. She has great oral skills and is quite cheerful and funny. My 1707 favorite, Jessica, is on vacation, of all things, but I always enjoy Marianne.

Report from Cattos

In the evening after dinner with friends went to Cattos with the Mouse and the talent situation was very good. I brought Paola, a sweet girl next door type back to the hotel. She said she had been at Cattos for a year, but seemed quite inexpienced. She was more passive than I would like, perhaps from being tired. It went well enough, but I would probably not repeat. I really should have talked to some of the older women with whom I had spoken before; I think I could have done better, but I had been out with the Mouse and it was 4 am and that is my excuse.

Exon123

01-10-04, 14:43

Great minds think a like Stormy, Jessica is my favorite at Santa Fe 1707 also. She provides good friendly consistant service. Many a time I'd drop in in the mornings and do the 30 minuite $60ar special with Jessica just to take the edge off before I'd start my day. Again don't let the Mouse beat you up Stormy and please report from Mar De Plata ---- Exon

Stormy

01-10-04, 18:49

A quote from Mickey Mouse:

"I think I'll go through my telephone list and see which numbers give me a hard on."

Mickey Mouse

01-10-04, 21:47

Yup, that´s me deciding on who will be my first repeat of the week.

Jaimito Cartero

01-10-04, 21:51

Mickey - I thought you said you never called any chicas back that you got numbers for? Have you run through all the chicas in BA already? If you actually kept all the ones you had taken, you could start your own chica yellow pages.

Mickey Mouse

01-10-04, 22:06

Jaimito,

Good to hear from you. I had my first negative experience last night from a real cutie I had met in Cattos and who also works Shampoo. I used the Moon Dog approach, which works well sometimes, because I thought this one was a slam dunk (we've have spent time talking before). We ended up having a long discussion about $ in the middle of our session which destroyed everything, so I showed her the door. Figures, I have never had any luck with anyone out of Shampoo.

After 10 girls in 5 days, I thought I would take the afternoon off to recoup and lick my wounds; but after 10 hrs of no action, I felt I needed that "Lovin Feeling". Guess what, it worked!

One thing is for sure, there is an abundance of ladies right now and it would take 2 lifetimes at my pace to meet them all.
See you in April (you too Elvis),

MM

Carpediem

01-11-04, 13:07

Anybody willing to share goodies?

I´m looking for recomendations for a friendly good looking provider for next Saturday. 20-25, dfk, bbbjtc, gfe etc. Un poco englese would be useful, but not necessary.

Dick for Brains - you are absolutely right, the no-name boliche I wrote about is the same you reported on 12/30. I found it following your directions.

OttoGraham

01-11-04, 15:35

Seize the day - If you seriously are lacking any leads of your own, why not ask Roxana? She knows the girls as well as we do, and can pair you up with something of your liking.

-Uncle Otto

Mickey Mouse

01-11-04, 18:11

Madaho update:

I returned to Madaho last night at 12:30 and everything was back to normal except there were about 10 ladies for every guy. I am telling you that the quality of women & the ratio of ladies to men in BA right now is Exceptional! There are not many people in town and the chicas are lonely and not very busy. Poor me.

I asked about the polizia the other night and I was told they stayed about an hour checking Documents & ID´s and basically busting the management´s balls. It seems some things are the same everywhere.

BTW, I picked up 3 blondes from Ness last night for a TLN 4some and this time I locked everything (including room key) in my safe. I have a bit of a limp and I am a little tired today, but what a night! Practice makes perfect!

Carpediem:
Give Roxana your specs and she will find what you seek for your arrival. Then go to the clubs mentioned and your dance card will be full in no time with plenty of reserve phone #s. It´s not a question of finding one, it´s a matter of how many.

Until next time,

MM

Jaimito Cartero

01-11-04, 19:06

Hey, Mickey, do you have a deathwish? 3 blondes for TLN? I guess you might be trying to fuck yourself to death. I can think of lots of worse ways to go. How about giving us a rundown of THAT action?

If you don't have a digital camera, you need to get one! If I hadn't met you, I'd think you were spinning some fish tales.

OttoGraham

01-11-04, 19:10

Originally posted by Mickey Mouse

I asked about the polizia the other night and I was told they stayed about an hour checking Documents & ID´s and basically busting the management´s balls.

Sounds like Madaho's management failed to make the monthly bribe payment to the captain of the local police precinct.

-Uncle Otto

Lexton

01-11-04, 19:59

*Warning* - CROUPIER - Ave Carlos Pelegrini 469
(Ave 9 de Julio service street)

CROUPIER is between LaValle and Corrientes. In the last week or so it changed owners and is now apparently a dangerous tourist trap. Avoid this place. I stopped in one day last week but didn't buy anything, on a look "sin compromiso". There were only 2 5's and 3 1's for women.

The one drink minimum is now $30ar and I am told they will try for more from gringos. I have a promotion card that advertises a taxista commission of $30ar/head for people brought in.

I have been told that the new owner basically intends to try to take advantage of the location near the Obelisk to rip off tourists. In addition to the expensive drinks, I am told that at times there will be unordered drinks brought to ladies who sit next to you, and they will try to charge you for them, at $30ar each.

I hate to see this kind of crap get more prevalent here. "Le Piaf" is one of the few outright rip-off joints I know now, although Jackson's list indicates a couple more. This board is one of the best ways we mongers have of trying to combat this. I have suspected some gringo pricing in other areas. For this, it is important to indicate what you have paid for minimums, entrances, and drinks for exit. For the spanish speaking regulars, I would sure appreciate more mention now and then of charges and minimums, because you know what is normal. It is especially important to report if a place has indicated a price or policy change. It is only an extra line when talking about a great time, and can help others very much, including me at times.

Let's try to keep BA more honest than most cities.

Hi Lexton,

I had received info a couple of weeks ago from a Croupier insider that a change in ownership was immiment, but there was no info at the time about any planned changes in the club's MO. Still, my connection was adamant that I should keep my eyes open because the next time I return to the club it might be operating under new rules.

Thanks,

Jackson

SteveC

01-11-04, 20:29

Further to OttoGraham's comment: a link from the London Observer.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1120524,00.html

Some kind of power struggle going on.

Mickey Mouse

01-11-04, 21:43

Jaimito,
I think you know I am not one for Fish Tales. As for a camera, I prefer to spend my time enjoying the moment as opposed to taking photos, but you are right, I could use one for a moment like that. I almost called Stormy at 6:30 to bring his upstairs for a snapshot.
When you are in BA please feel free to stop by Ness and ask for Daiana and I am sure she will happy to verify all and introduce you to her friends. There is nothing like being sandwiched by 3 while napping and no matter where I roll when I wake, there is a welcome wagon. The first left at 7 am, the second was done at 10, but Daiana didn´t leave until after 11 when I was completely spent. I will repeat with just her ( and maybe 1 other) before I part.
Staying warm for all,
MM

Jaimito Cartero

01-11-04, 23:38

Hey Mickey, you don't know what you're missing. Many of the girls just LOVE to have photos taken, and will take pics too. Spend $100-$200, and you'll have tons of memories, and then you can share some of them with us!

How much did your TLNx3 cost? Isn't Ness the place we checked out together? Only 6-7 chicas, though you got a couple of numbers if I remember right.

Dancesw/Chicas

01-12-04, 03:14

Lexton,
"Le Piaf" is such a rip off!! I forgot about that place.
The promotoras asked me to come in for a drink so many
times I was tired of them. They did not care asking more
than once In the same day...

BTW, Anyone know the redhead who walks up and down
Florida ave?. She dresses like a secretary and prefers walking
as her "Modus Operandi" instead of sitting a cafes.
Is hard to spot her because you would never think she's
on the program.
DWC

Andres

01-12-04, 08:01

DWC:

The redhead was reported in the local board as an excellent provider.

Lexton:

I would be wary of those boliches in Downtown not already reported as reliable (such as Cattos or Hook).

Andres

Hulk

01-12-04, 14:56

I'm finally back in Buenos Aires! I practicallly lived here in 2002, but didn't come at all during 2003. My excuse is that a brazilian goddess in Rio temporarily suppressed my mongering instincts, but that's another story. But I made it a New Year's resolution to come back for at least a week in 2004, so here I am.

Since my knowledge about BA is pretty outdated (the last time I was here they had just opened Madahos and a taxi driver was pushing me to visit), my mongering-related reports will have to wait a little. But, I wanted to give everyone an exchange rate report since this is something I always try to stay current on when visiting any country. Plus it never hurts to try to stretch those mongering pesos, so here it is:

Exchange rates on January 12, when changing U.S. $ to pesos in BA:

Airport exchange at baggage claim: 2.62
Front desk at the Hilton: 2.65
Taxi stands just after you clear customs: 2.85
Withdrawing from my checking account at an ATM (my bank doesn't charge me transaction fees): 2.85
Paying with U.S $ at great steak house in Puerto Madero: 2.90

MSN reports the offical exchange rate to be 2.86. So, as in my previous trips, it still seems to hold true that an ATM will give me the official rate and restaurants will give me a slightly better exchange rate. So, I'll be sticking with my old strategy of paying for my meals with U.S. $ and getting change in pesos to get the best exchange rate possible and then just hitting the ATM when I need more cash.

Sorry if this is a little off-topic but I figured it never hurts to share this knowleddge with fellow mongers. I'll be hitting Madaho's tonight (especially after MM's report) and will try to provide more updates later in the week.

Mickey Mouse

01-12-04, 16:34

Madaho, Ness, MDP etc
Jaimito: You´re right, Ness did not have much in August, but was stocked when I returned in Nov. The night I got my 3, it had close to 15 girls and only 3 guys including me. It was late, but for 500p I had one hell of a ride.
Sunday was a quiet day everywhere and I didn´t see any familiar faces. For some reason Hook was closed (never noticed that before), but ended up having a new adventure with Marisol (Wow) from Cattos, a definite repeat.
Check the MDP board about our arrival and I will post soon.
Wish us luck,
MM
BTW: Stormy had it on very good authority that the cops were hassling the girls on Florida friday night.

Jaimito Cartero

01-12-04, 17:28

Mickey - Sounds like you got "my" Marisol who I took back in June. She was at Hook then, but Elvis said she moved next door. She's a hot little number, that's for sure. What color is her hair this time?

Stormy

01-12-04, 18:01

Regarding the redhead SW who dresses like a secretary on Florida. Where approximately on Florida is she? That is a long
street.

Stormy

Andres

01-12-04, 20:11

Stormy:

Near Galerías Pacífico mall.

Andres

Minimus

01-13-04, 22:48

Who is going to be in town Feb 11-16th?

I'm looking for a wingman.

Hi Minimus,

I'll be in BA for the month of February, and I'm sure I'll be hosting some AMA meetings during that time.

Please send me an email when you get here or shortly before you arrive.

Thanks,

Jackson

Chuponalgas

01-13-04, 23:38

I will be in EZE in February, with a friend who has a thing for TALL girls. I know they show "height" on platynum, but they seem to make up a phony height based on wearing 4" heels or something. Based on my experience they are usually much shorter than they say. Any personal recommendations for a particular gal who is 5'9" or over?

OttoGraham

01-14-04, 14:54

THE UNCLE OTTO ROAD SHOW

Is scheduled to make a stop in Buenos Aires for three nights only, January 19, 20, and 21.

If any fellows in Buenos Aires would like to get together to tell some tall tales, eat beefsteak, ogle women, and drink liquor, PM me with your contact info.

-Uncle Otto

Since I am in BsAs beginning on Monday morning, I thought I would bump this up. -Uncle

Mickey Mouse

01-14-04, 16:00

Chupa,
There are a couple girls at Madaho that fit your bill; otherwise I might contact Exon123 because he too appreciates a woman of similiar stature. In any case, make the rounds and you shall find what you seek.

Guillermo

01-14-04, 22:43

Chupo,

I'm in the same boat as your friend.

If TALL chicas are your thing, I would highly recommend Julieta, of Platynum.com. Very nice, very professional. As I recall... AR $200 for 1 1/2 hour at my apt. BBBJ no problem. I'd see her again if I ever get down there.

Her pictures on Platynum are current, within the last 6 months, so WYSIWYG.

2 minor drawbacks; she has, I think, 2 children, so if your friend is a fanatic about "tight" chicas, he might not like that. Also, she has an extreme overbite, just in case you're particular about the dental work.

Guillermo

Captain Ahab

01-15-04, 09:08

Does anybody know what happened to Kihara from Platynum.com? A very fine lay she was but her profile's been moved off the site and the mobile number I had for her isn't working anymore. :( Of course, I realize she could have given up the game altogether, but I think it's probably more likely that she's just switched playing fields and is receiving out of Brazil, a private club or even somewhere in Europe. She really is worth the effort to look up I believe because whilst reasonable hookers are a dime a dozen. truly beautiful and skilled ones like Kihara are far rarer, and far harder to find. So if anybody's got any info as to this muchacha's latest whereabouts, please, *please* let me know. Muchisimas Gracias.

Ahab over and out.

Carpediem

01-15-04, 23:38

Question re: Apartments

Does anybody knows which ones are typically opened on Sundays? In particular
1707 Santa Fe - some time ago it was reported to be closed. Is this still the case? I don't have a phone number for this one.

Guemes 3221?
Bonnefemme, Santa Fe 2036?
Corrientes 1965?

Thanks

Mickey Mouse

01-16-04, 18:30

2nd to last night report:
Decided it might be a good idea to visit Black and see if their were any possibilities. Talked our way in then paid 50p for 2 bottles of beer. Began talking to a couple nice girls who wouldn´t give any specifics until I bought her a drink which she said would cost 50p, but ended up costing 60p. The bottom line: Tons of Good Looking Ladies (but no better looking than Madaho) and not many men; they wouldn´t budge from their price of 300p for 1 hr or 500p for 2. I was even quoted 1050p for the night! Yah, OK, sure, anything you want baby! So off we went to the Golden Triangle (Ness, Cattos, Hook) we went.
Cattos was packed with girls and Men! First time I have seen a bar on this trip full of men. Both Hook and Ness had plenty of women, but all the men were at Cattos, I´m glad they didn´t decide to venture next door because I got what I wanted!
1 last night left and ... mmmmmm ... the names are in a hat,
MM

Stormy

01-16-04, 18:38

Regarding 1707 and Sundays. I'm fairly sure they are closed on Sundays. In fact, the best activity there is during the day though they are open into the early evening.

Stormy

Amis

01-16-04, 20:41

Question re Chica Prices:

Considering my first trip to BA so, need idea on going prices for:

1) Short term
2) All night

With girls from the clubs.

Could someone help me with the answer please! PM is ok too.

Don't take offense, but all you have to do is read the forum for this information.

Jackson

Exon123

01-16-04, 21:34

Exon Reporting : Completely off topic. I just returned from two nights at the Tropicana in Las Vegas. I did a little price check and comparison last night. A truly skankie working girl quoted me $500 for a full hour and $300 for a half an hour, I just walked away. Needless to say I didn't hobby while I was there. Moreover Las Vegas sucks and caliber of the working girls doesn't hold a candel to Buenos Aires. Matter o fact Vegas is a ripoff compared to the total B.A. experience --- Thanks for your reports Mouse & Stormy, very interesting. And Mickey, Please give Carolina a ring for me and tell her I'll be there in a month to six weeks --- Thanks Exon

Bandy

01-16-04, 22:43

Recently HBO aired a one hour documentary on "Bunny Ranch", Nevada. The girls were quoting upto $2000 for "one hour party" and the guys were gladly handing over the money. The girls were older and generally very unattractive. While watching this, I could not help but thinking about all those gorgous beauties of BA and Rio that are available at the fraction of that price.

Bandy

Alboroto

01-16-04, 22:44

Exon123

Las Vegas has been a ripped for a long time, on top of
that the quality of the ladies are not even half from what
I imagine in BA, even here in my native country El Salvador
the quality of the ladies are super and the rates, believe
me ... If ever get a chance to come down here, you can
judge yourself, plus have experienced that the ladies in
Las Vegas most of them are into drugs and here at least
they are clean ...

Jaimito Cartero

01-17-04, 00:40

Bandy - Yeah, I saw the same show on HBO. I mentioned it a week ago or so, I think.

It was amazing that one guy spent $11,000 for a night with two girls. And they were't anything that special. That's one reason I'll save up money for a couple of months and go some place really nice and have fun for a week or two. Why pay grossly inflated prices for subpar service?

I really hope they never do a special on any of the places I really like. It's be horrible if BA, CR or BKK changed into one of the "pussy mills" they have in NV.

Party BMW

01-17-04, 00:51

Hey guys,

I am going to BA in 12 days.

What's good during the day?

Any club open?

The Pirate

01-17-04, 14:53

Gentlemen,

I have thoroughly enjoyed your post on the BA Board. This board has enabled me to gather enough information to map out my entire trip. I will be in BA during the first couple of weeks of February. I look forward to the possibility of meeting some of you.

Feel free to send a PM to me.

Stay Safe,

The Pirate

Mickey Mouse

01-17-04, 17:01

It´s Time
To say Goodbye for now. My last 36 hrs went by in a mad flurry of 4 girls including 2 of my favorites and I must admit it´s going to be a slow crawl or at least a serious limp on my journey back home. 19 girls in 12 days (thankyou Cialus), no wonder why I feel like I´ve been tackled by an entire rugby team!

I pass the torch to Uncle Otto and friends and trust they will keep pushing the limits and make us all proud.

Stormy: A true friend and a great man with impeccable character who put up with my moments of insanity and madness. You helped make my trip a special one and I Thank You! I look forward to seeing you again soon, if you can put up with me again.

Exon: You Dog! You pushed the limits on me once again and I also hope to see you again soon! I wasn´t able to get a hold of Carolina, or maybe she is ducking me. BTW, you´re right! I know Vegas well and there is No comparison.

Party BMW: Orleans, Exedra and the private apartments (especially 1707) seem to be the daytime favorites. Check your local listings.

In conclusion: It seems that the clubs have been getting much busier with patrons the last couple nights; but don´t worry, there are still plenty of chicas - I didn´t run them all off. Just keep making the rounds between "All" your favorite places and you shall find all that you seek. Just stay away from mine please!

Until the next Adventure,
Mickey Mouse signing off (but still in contact)

Stormy

01-17-04, 18:01

Regarding the Mouse:

If you have a chance to hang out with him, take it. It is one of the most interesting things you will ever do in BA.

I crawled onto my airplane feeling that I did not have one more in me, at least on this trip.

I think by "impeccable character" he means that he never saw me take more than 3 chicas back to the hotel at once.

More about that later.

Thanks Mickey!

Stormy

Mickey Mouse

01-17-04, 18:39

Stormy,
Was that wednesday night when I saw you walk off into the night with 1 tall leggy brunette, 1 "what a body" blonde and 1 tiny black-hair girl? You never did tell me what happened. One thing is for sure, you were running on empty the nexr day.
Good luck Down Under!
See you soon my friend,
MM

Frans

01-18-04, 15:21

I am in BA for 3 weeks. This is week 1 report

WEEK 1 REPORT CARD

Alessandra on Platynum: at 450ar (125 euros) the session, she is not the cheapest provider in BA but sha has been on my hit list for a long time so...

I arrived at her appartment and she greeted me dressed in avery sugestive fishnet, after a quick shower she made me lay on the bed. Then she started a strip tease (a good one), basically with alessandra you are on automatic pilot, she has her routine in her mind she takes care of everything. Her body and boobs are as hard as steel, good bbj and a lot of deep hard fucking. It is more an olympic sex competition than a GFE. She is slightly smaller than her pictures may suggest. Overall good session though overpriced. Happy to have done it and will not do it again.

Isabella on Platynum: 40 years old, 1m 65, 200ar (56 euros) for an 90 minutes session. lovely woman face, very feminine, sexy dressed, excellent BBJ and very good intercourse. I did her twice and may come back next week.

Maitte on Platynum: 46 years (though looks like 30), 1m 70, looks and walks like a model, very soft and feminine, beautiful shape. at 100P(28 euros) servicio completo, Maitte has been, for me, the best value proposition of the week. A true GFE for me, I did see her 4 times already and shall return. A pure gem.

Marttina on Platynum: 46 years old, works in the same flat as Maitte, well shaped body though her face is a bit worn out. 100ar, good session.

Valeria on Belgrano Hot: Fake picture

Banina on Platynum: Fake picture

Nerea / Dana on Gemidos: Not as nice as the picture, I decided to take a pass.

Ale on Gemidos / Dani on Platynum: OK session for 150ar (42 euros), figure not as nice as the covered face may suggest.

Cafe Orleans: I like the place, the famous Roberta was on vacation, I talked to Alejandra (thin leg, long hair). Has anyone experience with her?

Cafe Excedra: I like the place. I talked a tall leggy blonde on the night shift called Nancy, has anyone experience with her?

Madahos: Still the best club in BA, went there 5 times, did not see any 9-10 but lot of 7-8. Opening gambit from the girls is 300P but all I talked to quickly settle for 200P. I have not picked up aynone here but surely I will next week.

Solid Gold: Asset quality is not as consistent as Madahos but I saw a lovely tall leggy long hair blonde with a superb breast. Her name is Jennifer, she quoted me 200P for an hour no cola and CBJ. I decline (CBJ is a bit of a deal breaker)

Sodome: Dead place

Shampoo: Dead Place

Black: Asset quality not as good as Madahos. Where are the stunning girls who populated Black 5 years ago?

Top Secret: Did not see anyone of interest.

Nuevo Estilos: I saw there 4 gems but was a bit surprised by the new price structure 120+20 for 30 minutes (no cola and CBJ).

Dolly's: I like the blue collar atmosphere of this place, I had a good session with a brazilain girl "Keoni".

Liza: A bit dead

SW: I saw the read curly hair girls walking on Florida and inside the Galeria Pacifico, but she did not inspire me that much.

That's it for this week.

Havanaman

01-18-04, 15:27

Gentlemen,

Please excuse my delay in reporting: the new year, post-trip ‘blues’, reporting on other country boards and finally catching up at work has delayed me.

Firstly, a very big and grateful thank you to all at the BA board who have been so generous in sharing their advice, opinion and off course experiences. My gratitude and thanks also go the BA-mongers who both PM and emailed me.

This, my third trip to BA, was a short 4 day hop, and part of a longer 3-country Christmas jaunt.

As many of you may remember I started my ‘BA-email-trial’ to meet regular and amateur chicas last year. This worked out fantastically and I had some excellent results. This was continued and enjoyed during this trip.

In 4 days I met 5 new chicas. Bedded 3, and of these have developed 2 excellent ‘longer-prospect relationships’. My aim being to have numerous chicas ‘in every port’ so to speak. I also re-established contact with a couple of chica friends from my last trip: again regular / amateur chicas. In 4 complete days I slept a total of 20 hours. It was worth it. The sequences following are about right, I hope my memory serves. I’m now developing a “diary” style for my own records.

Arrived BA 9am. I stayed at one of Saints apartments (see BA-accommodations board). A couple of hours and I’m shaved, showered, rested and ready to hit the streets. Non of my chicas was available until the late afternoon and as I did not have time for any of the apartments I went for a speedy, cheap and cheerful Clarin-chica. I got what I asked for when I called with the exception that I had not asked about the height of the chica. The women who came to my door was the same women I spoke to on the telephone (a first for me!) as judged by her really deep-sexy voice (actually within a few seconds of first speaking to her I thought it was a man trying to speak softly or a post-op you know what!). Anyway, Aramia had it all: good looks, a great rack for Russian and as I was to soon discover a tight front and rear end. Yes she had it all, except height. She was just visible when I looked through the door peep hole before opening the door! She was between 1.3 to 1.45m tall. Now I’m only 1.83m, but it did strain the neck to look into her eyes. Ar$40 for the hour. I enjoyed 2 hours of everything goes (all covered off course, except the BJ). Her English was about the same as my Spanish and so communication was OK. She gave the whole session her full and passionate attention and I soon found out that that was because she is sent away 80% of the time and depends heavily on return calls. Yes, it’s the height thing… “I please you no?… you call me again yes…?”. I broke one of my own rules and tipped heavily: in a fair world she would have asked for a lot more than Ar$40, ….any way it was worth a lot more.

With Aramia now gone: I call Jackson, planed a hook up logistic, and took a nap. Sorry Jackson, our meeting never materialised: time and chicas conspired against us!

Met up with one of my pen-pall chicas: she (lets call her “A”) loved the perfume and wore it for me when we went to bed that evening. Strange experience with “A”, as a couple of hours after we met she had to go visit her mother and we organised to meet for an evening meal latter that evening. I thought she had abandoned me, but turns out her mother was sick (a case of accidental self poisoning: strange but true) I won’t bother you with the clinical details, suffice to say I sat through the whole of dinner listening to a gripe of Argentine medicine.

“A” being away allowed me to meet my second contact “B” for a coffee. From all the correspondence with “B”, I knew we would never bed: it was her tone and general “anger” I think. Up front this lass said she was a lesbian and wanted me to know it in case I got any ideas. Enough said, now I have a “real friend” in BA who is a bull-dyke that sells holidays. Life can be cruel. Of all the chicas I met, “B” was by far the most do-able: a great loss to penis-kind. Best-case outlook was that it allowed me to practice my Spanish. A scenario I genuinely enjoyed.

I took another nap, “A” called and we met that evening: the little devil in my head that suspected she was doing a runner was wrong. She was up for it. Her email correspondence had suggested that, her body language had proven it. From “B”, my luck was up hill all the way: “A” was experiencing the “time of the month” and didn’t want penetration. My work involves considerable finger-dexterity and so I obliged con mi manos. She returned the compliment BBBJ, but we finished covered. OK, not the best I could have got, but it was freely given and no cash changed hands. That’s one thing I like about this pen-pall method. OK, so we all pay, but this way its an absolute GFE. “A” left at about 1.30am, and I took a taxi to Madahos. I did not pay to enter, the guys at the door just nodded at me: strange. Feeling the eyes of the chicas on me as I walked in brought back memories of my last trip when Jackson and Saint introduced me to the place. Tiredness was the enemy: the long-haul flight from Havana was starting to kick-in: but sexual greed has its own energy. Andrea: 24, fake blond, 1.5m and heavily botoxed lips. I needed a complete BBBJ, after the covered disappointment with “A”, and those lips looked promising. Ar$180 negotiated, with all the details discussed up front: “DFK and BBBJ, anything less and I’ll bring you back here to find someone else”. I’m not normally that assertive: it was the beer and tiredness I guess. My Spanish is improving, her English was just dreadful. Andrea was as good as her word: I got what I needed. About 45 minutes from being in the apartment, she leaves. I didn’t have the strength to be the gentleman I normally am: she got the Taxis by herself.
Breakfast with pen-pall “C”: her photos must have been taken before her thyroid started to malfunction. I’m far form slim, but then my photos reflect the real me: this chica had gained 15Kg (33 lb) since she had the photos done. No dice: nice to meet you and lets stay in touch. Now I have a “real friend” who is a lawyer in BA. All good contacts I suppose.

I speak with Jackson again: I need a new laptop and believe I can pick one up cheaply here. Wrong says Jackson: the Argentineans place 100% tax on all such items. Man, they are cheaper in Europe. A real negative on the day for me.

The following 2 days were very similar. Contact made with new friends and intermingled with Clarin and Madahos chicas. This was the only club I visited due to ease from where I was staying / meeting my friends.

My only regrets from the whole trip were not meeting up with some of the mongers in BA at the same time and the frantic nature of fitting everything into such a short time. Big mistake on my part, and one I will not repeat. Along with the chicas, shopping and new contacts I still left with a serious smile on my face, knowing I would return again soon. The exchange rate was with me all the way: £ vs. u$a was very favourable and in fact the money I have made from dealing since my return will give me another trip for free just as soon as I get the time. My thanks to one and all once again. Mad Max & Bandy get a special mention for sharing chica information: sorry chaps I was unable to pursue these lovely chicas: next time I will have more time and report more specifically, but thank you anyway.

Regards, Havanaman

Bandy

01-18-04, 21:49

Havanaman,

Thanks for the report. My hats off to you regarding your precise technic to establish e-mail connections to chicas prior to the trip. It is so scientific, that you deserve a "doctorate" on this subject. If anybody is interested, you can follow his reports on this subject on the Havana board. However, due to my inherent laziness, I don't think I will be able to master your technic.

Bandy

OttoGraham

01-19-04, 13:07

ARGENTINA MONGERS ASSOCIATION MEETING

In the absence of El Presidente Jackson, I am pleased to report that I have taken operational command of the AMA, pending further directives from El Presidente. In this regard, I am pleased to announce that the next Argentina Mongers Association meeting will be taking place on Tuesday evening, January 20, 2004, beginning at 10:30 p.m. All members and prospective members should arrive at the lobby of the Etoile Hotel at the above-noted time and date.

Agenda:

1) Brief introductions.

2) Assault on Buenos Aires clubs and boliches.

Some of the members will be getting together for dinner prior to the commencement of the meeting. For information about where and when, PM me as soon as possible.

FOR EL PRESIDENTE:

-Uncle Otto

Carpediem

01-19-04, 17:53

Here is the last of my reports from this trip.

I met four chicas during my last 24 hours in BsAs... and well, perhaps it's good for my health that I'm going back - as Stormy said, I don't think I have another one in me. Although is not going to be easy to get out of this plane at the frozen JFK...

Saturday afternoon I met Donna (area-vip) for two hours session. Very nice face (not completely visible at area-vip) framed by long blond hair, younger than expected appearance, huge silicon breasts, very nice rest of the body. Rather mechanical sex though, and conservative interpretation of `oral sin condom'. Recommended if the appearance is more important than the substance.

Saturday night, a slow one at Majahos. This time I tried to look for substance, and that worked out pretty well with two perhaps average looking girls who turned out to be very communicative and cheerful. They were friends so I brought them both to the hotel for two hours session, $450 (plus $50 tip at the end). Very good experience in particular since they enjoyed each other as well. Btw, the staf at LoiSuite Ricoleta is very friendly to visitors; no questions (and no registration). My next door neighbors had a late party that spilled to the corridor in front of my studio. It was quite fun to walk the girls through the crowd :) I almost thought of renting them out for a part of the time. I'm sure it would be a good business!

Sunday... well, to answer my own question from the couple of days ago, most of the apartments seem to be closed. Bonnefemme, however, was open. First time I was there few weeks back, there was an English speaking madam. Not this time though. Anyway, we managed to communicate. I called ahead (about 3pm) so it worked out smoothly. Apparently they expect their customers to check out their web page (www.bonnefemme.com.ar) and name the girl of choice. Since I didn't do my homework they showed me 5 girls, all of them nice looking, but no extremes. Btw, an hour started from $200 (contrary to some previous reports), but it come down to $150. My flight was leaving in 4 hours, so the choices were limited....

I picked Morena, 25old young looking, very friendly and very sexy Argentinian. No English, but a lot of good will. Although she is not really a GFE type, I spent very nice time with her. Go see her and help her learn English if you find some time!

Mickey Mouse, sorry to miss you in MdP and BsAs. Hopefully next time!

Jackson

01-19-04, 20:58

I can't believe this! I've been out of country for less than 2 weeks, and already the seeds of revolution are being planted in my absence.

It's bad enough that I have to sit here in Sex Prison USA and listen to all of you talk about patronizing MY restaurants, visiting MY clubs and fucking MY women, but now this!

Just remember, on February 5th El Rey de Recoleta will return to claim his rightful throne.

As punishment for their treasonous acts, I sentence Mad Max and OttoGraham to one afternoon of hard labor visiting comedores and distributing WSG Charity grant funds, sentence to be served on Wednesday, January 21st, 2004.

Jackson

Jaimito Cartero

01-19-04, 22:13

I think it's very suspicious that Otto came when you were gone, and for such few days. I'd make sure he wasn't trying to go after all your goodies. Some might think that the 2 or 3 beauties you have are too much for you, and would try to free them. :)

I would think you had them sent out of the country when Mickey Mouse was in town. Such energy for a big guy!

Stowe

01-20-04, 01:59

Question for all,

I have read references in this forum about buying Viagra in BA rather than in the US. Will I need to bring a perscription with me to get this in BA or can it be bought without a perscription?

Thanks,

Stowe

Dancesw/Chicas

01-20-04, 03:22

Hi fellows
I read some posts from a few of you regarding Las Vegas.
That's funny because my favorita emailed me saying a few
of her friends are visiting Las Vegas and Los Angeles. She
gave me her phone number and I called them, and I talked
to "Marian" she is from Buenos Aires and she told they are
based in Las Vegas and didn't know when they are going back
to BA.
Anyway she quote me 300 dollars. Of course I said forget it
and she said it can be negotiate (= 100 dollars). My favorita
told me they will do the same work she does on me which is
perfecto (BBBJ among others).
I don't know how these Argentines in Vegas look like but,
by talking on the phone I can say they are 100% portenas
and you guys know what that mean...
So next time you guys visit Las Vegas or Los Angeles just
ask in this board if anyone knows of Argentines girls there.
I know there are a lot in Miami bou you guys know
that already.
DWC

Peter Pan #2

01-20-04, 06:37

Hello fellow mongers,

I am flying into BA from Europe this weekend and will be there untill Feb 3rd. As this is my first trip I welcome any tips and recommendations. Also if anybody wants to join me for dinner and a night on the town, please contact me through the message system.

PP2

MoonDog

01-20-04, 13:06

DWC,

You stated:

and I talked
to "Marian" she is from Buenos Aires and she told they are
based in Las Vegas and didn't know when they are going back
to BA.

Is this the same Marian from www.area-vip-com.ar? If so, she quoted me $900 to spend the evening and all night and into the afternoon with me. I would also be responsible for dinner, and to take her shopping the next day as well.

If this was too much, then I could just try to bring her a home theatre system through customs for her to avoid her paying the taxes. That would be payment enough she said.

ROFL :)

Moondog

MoonDog

01-20-04, 13:07

Jackson,

This is just a ploy to get you back to BA as soon as possible. :)

Moondog

p.s. When will Argentina Private be back up?

OttoGraham

01-20-04, 13:12

RUMORS OF COUP D´ETAT IN BUENOS AIRES

Groups of men wearing sunglasses, driving Ford Falcons, and holding up photos of a deceased NFL quarterback have been spotted in the victinity of Vicente Lopez and Junin Streets in Buenos Aires. Reports from bystanders indicate that a coup d'etat within the ranks of the Argentina Mongers Association (AMA) may be in the works.

Rumors sweeping the capital indicate that a group of mercenaries will be assembling at 10:30 p.m. today in the lobby of the Hotel Etoile for a generalized debauch under the command of Colonel Otto Graham of the Guardia Civil Argentino.

Developing...........

JamesBond69

01-20-04, 14:03

viva la revolution. Free the AMA. power to the mongers. join commadante tio otto y bond, james bond.

mongers of ba unite 10:30 tonight

lobby of the etoile

Mad Max

01-20-04, 15:29

Gentlemen,

Sounds like a little jealously from the man with the blue pen.

Mad Max out.

Dancesw/Chicas

01-20-04, 15:36

Moondog,
I don't know how the Marian I talked to looks like but,
by the tone of her voice I doubt is the same hottie from
Area-vip. Of course voice tone is just a small indicator....
Give me an address and I'll send you her Las Vegas #.

Viva la revolucion!!!
DWC

Slick1

01-20-04, 15:52

Word on the streets is that Uncle Otto is just a frontman or puppet dictator and the real coup is being masterminded and financed by a wealthy Argentine businesswoman who goes by the acronym " Rox" or " Roxie". Anyone with additional info on the true identity of this woman can contact Jackson or myself in Florida which will undoubtedly serve as the launching site for the counterattack.

JamesBond69

01-20-04, 19:28

The dirty money for the AMA coup comes from the owner of Blacks - and other argentine redlight business interests - who are trying to regain their position in the market and are tired of wise ass AMA mongers complaining of the ripoff prices, especially considering the high quality of the goods and services

Commandante Tio Otto is a mere puppet of these corporate-criminal interests.

That said (full disclosure), the goal of the revolution is still a noble one - to return the AMA TO THE MONGERS and the establishment of a permanent Clarin Research Institute and monger state in BA, including acceptance by the international communities, such as the United Nations and NATO.

WE DEMAND OUR HUMAN RIGHTS AS MONGERS.

Esta Noche Etoile Lobby 10:30 pm

We shall overcome

Power to the Mongers. Viva la revolution.

Abajo Gringo puppet Jackson.

Vive our liberator Tio Otto (aka Che Otto)

Horny24

01-21-04, 00:35

Fellow Mongerers,

I am fairly new to the hobby (2yrs) and I've been reading all the great info available hear and now I have a question of my own. What is the recommended amount of US Dollars to take on a trip to BA, for let's say a five day trip, including hotel, and entertainment twice a day?

I have been drooling over some of the pics that are posted in the gallery. Are the BA chicas the hottest in the world or what?! I have got to get down and enjoy the action. So far my experience has unfortunately been limited to Tijuana, but with your help I hope to greatly broaden my horizons. Gentleman, thank you all in advance for the great info and I look forward to posting my own experiences in the future.

Be Cool

Art Vandalay

01-21-04, 14:38

Hi there,

I am finally going to be making my way to Buenos Aires in a few months. I can't wait. I have been scoping out the ladies on escortsbaires.com and was curious if anyone has had any experience with the gals from escortsbaires.com. They have some model looking women and I'd hate to find out it's a scam or something.

Art

OttoGraham

01-21-04, 19:06

OTTO GRAHAM KIDNAPPED, RAVISHED BY AGENTS OF EL JEFE JACKSON

Reports from Buenos Aires state that the commander of the AMA insurgency, Colonel Otto Graham was abducted last night inside Affaire boliche on Juncal Street by two women of questionable morals working under the operational command of El Jefe Jackson, who supervised from his Florida command post. Seducing Graham with their feminine wiles, the female agents transported him back to the Hotel Lois Suites where it was reliably reported that strange sounds emananated from Graham´s room for several hours last night.

An unnamed souce close to the situation stated that Otto´s desire to revolt was broken by the female agents. The turning point came when the agents threatened to turn Graham over to the notorious Señorita Maria Cristina for reprogramming. The mere mention of Maria Cristina´s ability and specialties are enough to enforce AMA discipline on all but the strongest men. El Jefe Jackson´s hold on the leadership of the AMA has therefore been restored.

Developing.........

Jaimito Cartero

01-21-04, 19:53

Horn - Money is going to depend on the what type of chicas you're looking for. Apartment girls might be 40-100 pesos per hour. (Last I checked it was 2.8 pesos to the dollar) Club girls will generally get 150-200 pesos for a session. I usually get TLN for these rates (Say from 2am-10am). If you're at the high end clubs you might pay a little bit more.

I'd would say that $US200 per day would probably cover all expenses. I spent about $US80-$90 per day when I was there for a week last year. I stayed at the Dazzler hotel ($US35 a day), and saw a combination of apartment, Clarin (newspaper) and club chicas.

Look in June of last year for some of my reports.

You'll never want to go to Tijuana again after going to BA. Even at the apartment I went to with Elvis, for 40 pesos for an hour I got a sweet 19-20 year old girl. Great body, DFK, BBBJ, DATY and a real GFE.

BA also has a great nightlife. Excellent dining, entertainment, movies (as late at 2am, even during the week!) and the great bunch of guys who go to BA.

Even though I sometimes feel inclined to have some action where I live in the US, it works out so much better to save up and get really great girls. What I would spend for an hour here, will get me a week of girls in Thailand, Costa Rica, or 3 or 4 girls for all night in BA.

Jaimito Cartero

01-21-04, 19:57

Art - Read through the forums a bit. I think Elvis, Andres and other have posted about the veracity of online pictures. There are a couple of sites that are 100% good, and others that have a lot of airbrushing. There are some incredible girls in Argentina.

Traveler287

01-22-04, 00:29

Hello Fellow Explorers (Mongers),

I am new to this board and really appreciate the guidence and tales listed in your reports. My first visit to BA late last year would have been much more enjoyable (well, maybe just much less expensive) had I been aware of the knowledge available on this board. I did manage to meet Jackson and a few fellow members during my short trip but did not quite grasp the price structure. So, while I tended to over pay a bit, the woman chosen were very beautiful and all were TLN and GFE's. I am attempting to learn a bit of Castillian Spanish for my next trip and continue to look forward to all your posts.

Bodhi

01-22-04, 00:48

jaimito and others mention Clarin girls. Will someone kindly post some names and numbers of various chicas? No contacts yet for Clarin on Jacksons site, and although there were the Clarin AMA sessions numbers and contacts were not posted. Being on a budget Clarin is a solution...
I should be in BA again by the second week of February.

Thanks,

Bodhi

Hobby Fan

01-22-04, 01:42

MagicHat:

I agree with your rendition of history, and note that recent public information act document disclosures show very active US support for the dirty war. However, other than a few references in one or two posts (which I agree were in questionable taste, although I consider one author a friend) I did not read this stuff about coups as making fun of Argentine history. We should be extra sensitive.....but this was just a joke about overthrowing Jackson.

Visit the country. It is great. HF

DownBA

01-22-04, 01:47

MagicHat, nobody's on this board condoning the regime that made all those people disappear, I've never read a single word of support of the militaristic government that caused the disappearance of many thousands of innocent Argentinians.

The people of this board are interested in having sex with gorgeous Argentinian girls, not in discussing Argentinian politics of the past or present though once in a while there's scant mention of something political going on but by and large we're interested in sleeping with some of the hottest, sexiest women on the planet.

So PLEASE don't confuse what happened in the Argentinian society before most of the chicas with whom we sleep were even born with meaning that these AMA board members in any way, shape or form support what the Argentinian militia did twenty to thirty years ago. Nor should you confuse anything that these politicos did back then with the chicas of today with whom we sleep, who not only weren't even born at the time these atrocities were committed but had as little to do with the rat bastards who committed these crimes against humanity as the German children born in the 70's and 80's had to do with what Hitler did generations earlier.

In short, I suggest that you take a trip to this fine land and try to report on something useful to this board, i.e., having sex with some of the finest women in the world and leave the rubbish of what Argentinian politicians did over a generation ago out of this fine forum.

Come down here and see first-hand some of the warmest, most lovable people on earth and then tell us what you think of this highly endearing place before you start out on the wrong foot as you've just done. DownBA

Jackson

01-22-04, 02:31

Gentlemen,

Given the nature of this Forum, everyone who reads and/or participates in the Forum should do so with the understanding that they need to keep their "sensitivity radars" turned down.

Thanks,

Jackson

Horny24

01-22-04, 07:19

Jaimito,

Thank you very much for the info, that is a pretty easy guideline to follow. I look forward to joining the festivities in the future!

Be Cool

Duruma

01-22-04, 18:31

Hi guys,

I missed the AMA meeting the other day. I showed up at around 10:45 and the lobby was empty. Sorry guys I was really looking foreward to meeting you and learning the ropes.

After I left the hotel lobby I wandered around the barrio for a while and happended upon Affair. The name rang a bell from the forum so I went in to check it out. They charged me 20 pesos to enter but this included 3 drinks so I thought that was a reasonable charge. I actually only had a 100 peso note with me and the girl at the front told me they didnt have change for me. I thought BULLSHIT but went in anyway leaving it up to them to bring me th 80 peso change when they had it. Almost to my suprise they brought the change to me in the bar a few minutes later while I was chatting with a girl.

I entered the place at around 11 and I was the only guy there. It was a rush to be the only guy with 25 hot girls all trying to get my attention. I hung out for a half an hour chatting with one girl after another while drinking my beers. I settled on a young blond named Dana which I CAN NOT recommend. She is 21 very cute, excellent natural tits and a sweet personality. She only speaks spanish. I settled on the price 150 pesos for an hour and then I ordered her a drink for 25 pesos. After she finisher her drink we took a cab to Hotel Acapulco at Azcuenaga 2008 its only a few blocks from Affair. They chage 45 pesos for a basic room for two hours. While at Affair Dana promised me a BBBJ. In the room she put a condom on me before she went down on me. I asked what was up and she told me that BBBJ only means sucking my balls with out a condom. I have never heard of wearing a condom on my balls but I new that wasnt the point. She was trying to rip me off. We f---ed in sever position, DATY, DFY and Greek but after the switch and bait on the BBBJ I just wanted to get it over with. I had her in the room for 45 minutes and she was already getting dressed and wanting to leave. With that attitude of hers I wanted to get rid of her so I wasnt complaining. Compared to what that evening would of cost me in San Francisco it was a fun, cheap adventure but for B.A. standards I got punked.

Making a long story short- avoid Dana from Afair.

DURUMA

BA_Robert

01-22-04, 21:41

Do anybody know if everthing is dead around Easter in BA? Do clubs close early or do not open at all?

If this is the case, which days sould one avoid?

7th Wendsday (regular day i guess)
8th Thursday (hollidays in some countries, Maundy Thursday)
9th Friday (Good friday)
10th Saturday (Easter eve)
11th Sunday (Easter sunday)
12th Monday (Easter monday)
13th ...

When do clubs go back to be their normal selves again?

Do restaurants stay open?

Dancesw/Chicas

01-23-04, 01:07

You are right Magic hat. This is not the right audience for that type of preaching. AMA members do not complain about the USA jokes made by argentines. We couldn't care less!

Questions:

Is the Presidente back in Buenos Aires?

Where is Otto "El Generalisimo" Graham?

DWC

Andres

01-23-04, 09:20

1) New website (at least new to me):

http://www.bairesgirls.com.ar/

Many pictures are original, and girls detail if they do BBBJ ("bucal s/glob").

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2) "Ford Falcons" and related:

Just to give the impression from a local guy, not to provide any data about it.

You should be wary about joking in front of locals about several issues. One of these is the bloody 70's, to which the Ford Falcons belong.

Other issues to avoid:
- Trying to convince Argentinians that the "corrupt politicians" are, in fact, responsibilty of those who vote them.
- Praising Brazilian dominance in soccer.
- Jumping into "Peron/Evita was good/bad" discussions.

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3) Flaking out

As Duruma, I waited in the Etoile's Lobby from 10:35PM to 11PM (and I came there because of a request from a fellow monger).

Please be responsible when calling for meetings, especially for many guys like me who have tons of things to do here.

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Hope this helps,

Andres

OttoGraham

01-23-04, 14:02

Andres, Durama -

On Tuesday I was running late to the AMA meeting, having been at a dinner in Belgrano. I let my lieutenant jamesbond69 know, and asked him to round up the other mongers coming to the Etoile and to meet us at Black. Apparently he was only partially successful, but didn't hang around long enough after the 10:30 start time to lasso all the late-arriving mongers (it IS Buenos Aires, after all, so when you say the meeting is at 10:30 one shouldn't plan for anything before 11!).

It's all my fault. My sincere apologies to each of you. For his various crimes, jamesbond69 has been sentenced to a two-hour session with Srta. Maria "The Fist" Cristina. Golden showers for Mr. Bond - and other indignities - are promised.

The revolution is over. El Jefe Jackson reigns supreme!

-Uncle Otto

Jaimito Cartero

01-23-04, 15:30

I think this illustrates why meeting in the lobby isn't a good idea. Meet at a restaurant, and get drinks or something so that any late arrivals aren't going to miss out. I can't believe that Otto didn't show up for his own meeting? Have they ever used the guillotine in Argentina?

Saint

01-23-04, 15:43

Hey amigos,

I haven't read the BA section in a few months. I just got an email from Otto telling about the WSG Charities section. I didn't know it existed. I'm in Paris now but BA always is close to my thoughts and my heart.

One of the great things is that Jackson never asks asks people to donate. People should want to donate on their own only for the sake of doing something nice. I know that many people donate to charities here in the USA on their own. Hopefully you won't forget to donate a few times a year to WSGCharities.

www.wsgcharities.com

I just wanted to personally thank Jackson and anyone else that has supported his cause. We are all different. Different nationalities, religions, professions, educations, beliefs but this is one thing that we can all have in common. Helping others that are less fortunate than us.

Keep up the good work everyone!

Saint

drgn

01-23-04, 16:37

Well, I´m finally back after a long hiatus State side and things are even better than I remembered. (It´s only been a few months, but E=MC2, time definitely is relative depending on where you spend it!) Chose to rent an apartment again since I had such a great time at Saint´s place in May. This time I got this huge luxury loft on a quiet side street in Recoleta. Tons of space, high ceilings, lots of glass, unusual floor plan, marble everywhere, and a chandelier hanging about 5 feet from the bed in the 2nd floor loft. If I were staying, I´d definitely want this place permanently.

Thought I´d try something new and called a Platynum ad, dirty blonde with a smokin´little bod. She was there in less than 10 minutes. Turns out she was right around the corner. Great way to start the trip. She loved the place and ended up staying for 3 hours giving me the whole rundown, i.e. never married, no kids, youngest in the family, only in business a few months then starting her own company, blah, blah, blah. However, no mention of $ until she was about to leave. At the end of 3 hours she says she needs to call the agency. Wha-, wha-, WHAT!???? (Didn´t know an agency was involved...be warned.) I do the math and think this might be a problem...didn´t change enough cash, plus I would have sent her home after 1 hr. Tell her the truth, she says ¨no probleme¨(insert thick accent) and says she won´t call because my number will show up, they´ll ask for the money, etc. She gives me her number and her schedule to call during off-hours.

Hit the clubs in Centro and met this cute Terri Hatcher/Jessica Alba clone. She looked more Brazilian than Argentinian. Okay, I´m hooked. BUT, she´s only a promatora and doesn´t do the do. F---! However, we talked for about an hour during which she told me they make 15 pesos per day for a 10 hour workday, and she gets a 6 peso commission on every 30 peso drink someone buys for her. Provided a new perspective on the chicas asking for $100 - 200US short time.

Found a wee person at Cutty Sark (very petite woman). I always have to have at least one; possibly the embodiment of some unfulfilled adolescent crush...sigh. Starts with crazy numbers (see previous paragraph). I counter. She asks again. My counter is ¨never mind¨ (as I begin scanning a chica nearby). After another 15 minutes (she hadn´t left but neither had I, so the ball was still in play), she says okay. Well, she LOVED the loft, and starts with questions about what do you do for a living, are you married, etc. Never mind wee one. After the nickel tour she asks for the money up front. ¨Yo siempre pago despues....¨and showed her the bills, then placed them back in my pocket, ala Jackson. She starts with the rapid Spanish, blah, blah, blah. I start walking towards the door thinking BA has such an easy RETURN POLICY. Seeing that it didn´t make ANY DIFFERENCE to me whether she stayed, she came around. Great time. Starts givng me the phone number, wants to go dancing later, wants to go to the supermercado and cook for me, etc. (btw I didn´t know this at the time because I didn´t understand her Spanish)

Later went to Solid Gold and was constantly badgered by the drink police. If I´m interested, I´ll buy you the freakin´ bottle, otherwise, away with you... I saw plenty of quality applicants for the positon but was a little fatigued from earlier activity. Doorman is from LA and invited me back the next day for a drink on the house. Next day, found one that was painted and tainted (peirced and tattooed), yet she was dressed like she was going to a business meeting when we left...Daddy like! Again, loved the loft, wants to go dancing, etc. Best session so far...no games, no problems, pure, unadulterated fun.

Observations:
Guys, do yourself a favor and GET AN APARTMENT! As Jackson and Saint have both mentioned, you are then a local, not a tourist. They then want you as a regular or novio especially if you´re a decent guy. They offer to see you on their off hours or if they´re club girls they offer to skip work to go out with you. I totally get some of the stories on this board now. I did a repeat with the wee one and it was like she was auditioning to be Mrs. Drgn. Which takes me to my next thougt...

Repeats. I believe repetition is the m------- f------ of skill. Repetition builds trust, trust opens the door to additional possibilities. There is a tendency for the sessions to become more heated, extended, and adventurous during repeats. Which is why I like to have 3 or 4 in rotation at any given time. I expect the sessions to start off great AND improve with time. If either of these things doesn´t happen, she gets recycled. A new one is added to the rotation. Which is a nice segue to....

Expectations. Last summer I had a discussion with some members of the board about how easy it is to become a victim of your own success (maybe positive ¨circumstances¨ is a better term) There are sooo many options you start looking for ways to up the ante or push the envelope. If your a newbie, it´s like DFK, wow. BBBJ, oh my god. DATY, you have to be kidding me. GFE, I´m in heaven. And she´s gorgeous. And it cost me NOTHING, relatively. Where do you go from there? (There was a brief discussion about BBFS, but that is not a safe or sane idea) You start looking for the PERFECT woman. It´s right about this time that you start questioning your own sanity. You find yourself turning down great sex with a gorgeous woman, someone you would happily date back home, because you´re looking for something even better. (For those of you who have yet to make the trip, you too will find yourself going through this process. Ask the vets.) With that, we move on to....

Jealousy and claim staking. I had a bad experience last trip where someone I really enjoyed became nonplussed when she heard I took someone else out on her night off. Last night I ran into the little gossip hound. The problem is she´s NOT the only one doing that. Already the chicas seem to make this big show of ownership, to the point where if you turn one down, she seems to get upset with others who approach you later. All of mine have used the term novia, ask questions about what you did the night before, did you go to any other clubs, talk to any other women, etc. And, yes, women are sheep. You get the MOST attention when you´re sitting down laughing and talking with someone. Suddenly, 10 more are giving you the hard stare trying to make eye contact. It like ¨he´s in play, so let´s see if I can get him to pick me before he leaves with her¨.

More to come...

Jak

01-23-04, 20:47

drgn -

The "jealousy and claim-staking" part -- there was a discussion a little while back about how authentic these acts of "jealousy" from the chicas really are.

Do they act this way because they have learned that a lot of guys like it when they act hooked on a guy? It's good for their business because they can get more future mileage from a lot of guys by acting "in love" with them? Is it part of the competitive advantage to get a guy to take them the next time he's in the club?

I thought it was interesting that you finished your paragraph with an example of how competitive women get with each other, especially when they see you "in play".

How many of us guys delude ourselves with these chicas on a routine basis?
Any thoughts?

Prokofiev

01-23-04, 23:43

Jak,

These displays of "jealousy" are in large part economic in origin, IMHO. Each client represents $$$ and these ladies are in direct competition with one another. The term "hooker"comes from the practice of hooking a man's arm while she negociates with a john and the universal custom is that no other SW should approach a "hooked" man or a cat-fight might ensue.

But you can also imagine how it feels to have sex with someone and then 2 nights later watch that person choose someone else. Sure, that's the business, but it has to sting a little. Especially if you are like me and go out of your way to complement a woman you took home. I tell them how beautiful they are and that they're quite special. Great lovers. Etc,etc. She knows there is game playing on both sides but she also can tell that I'm sincere and truly like her. So how can I pick another woman, her rival - next time I'm in the club? I've been called on this several times and the pressure is intense to go with the same woman. And I usually do, which just proves that the jealosy display - real or not- can be very effective. But I don't consider it a sign that she is in love with me. Only that she is human and has feelings . . . and wants my money!

JamesBond69

01-23-04, 23:46

Sorry Andres and others that missed the AMA meeting on Wednesday.

I swear I was in the lobby of the Etoile until 11:00 pm and one monger did show up - Franz - and joined me for a bit of mongering shortly thereafter. I will give a full report when I have a break from mongering down here.

Anyway the next AMA meeting is in the Lobby of the Etoile, 10:30 pm, Saturday, January 24th.

I personally look forward to meeting drgn, Andres and others.

The uncle ottorian coup may have failed but still....

Let the games begin.

Bond, James Bond 69

Jak

01-24-04, 03:00

Prokofiev,

I suppose the reality of these situations is that human motives and desires are never going to be neat and clean to separate. I often question if the feelings and connectedness between some P4P girl and me is any less real or authentic than many "regular" or non-P4P GF experiences I've had in the past.

Motivations can get convoluted in many types of relationships, and I suppose that is just part of the human condition. For example, you like to pal around with a co-worker or supervisor of the same sex and have fun, but you also know that it's politically smart to do so for your career. Do you really like the person? Would you pal around with them if you didn't work with them?
How about the 26 year-old never married woman that's anxious to get married - how does the guy know that it's really him that the woman cares about and that he's just not being hustled by the energy of her biological clock?

Yeah, most of the time it's just never clean - we're all human, but, we need to be attentive to the demands of the cold, cruel world!

Estoy Negro

01-24-04, 03:01

Prokofiev,

I know the feeling 100%, sometimes I resist the same girl because I know its all about the money, but it sure can be pressure packed

Stormy

01-24-04, 05:40

Regarding the term "hooker". I thought this came from the U. S. Civil War general "Fighting Joe" Hooker because there were so many prostitutes hanging around his soldiers.

Stormy

The Pirate

01-24-04, 14:09

Gentlemen,

If any of you who "live" in Argentina need something that you can only find in the U.S., let me know. I will have a little spare room in my bag for the BA trip and would not mind bringing it down for you. I'll be there in 6 days. Just drop a PM in my box.

Stay Safe,

The Pirate

drgn

01-24-04, 15:20

Jak,

Let me clarify. It appears my choice of language caused some intuitive leaps that were not intended. " in play" = someone who is there to actually spend money, whether that´s on drinks for girls or taking one out. Shoppers vs buyers, i.e. the difference between many of the Argentinian patrons and the foreigners. Also, go to a regular night club. One of the old rules for going out to pick up non pro´s is to go WITH or BE SEEN WITH another woman. Women generally pay more attention to the guy who is already there with someone. Sort of a sign of approval. Just pointing out the similarity in behavior.

Delusion is a matter of perspective. Your use of the phrase "deluding ourselves" excludes the fact that behaviors are contextual. There are many behaviors which while perfectly plausible from one perspective or within one culture, may seem totally foreign to another. FOR EXAMPLE, the reason we go to BA and RIO is because the type of experience available in the P4P environment is almost unheard of in the USA or Europe. Are we deluding ourselves when someone provides BBBJ, DFK, etc. thinking this women is in love with us? Or is it that, in this particular place and time, this behavior is NORMAL? Many guys arrive at the "love" conclusion because looking into mental databank the only context in which these BEHAVIORS were exhibited is in an actual "relationship". However, the Argentinian and Brazilian men know better. Does that mean that her behavior is completely insincere...quizas si, quizas no.

Let´s start with the premise that these women are in THIS environment for purely economic reasons. They´re looking for someone who may be a potential customer and would probably rather be doing something else. Now, our second premise is they are REAL women capable of many of the same thoughts, emotions and behaviors as the standard issue human female model #xxxxx. These two elements can produce conflicting behaviors. Premise 2 is part of WHO THEY ARE, while Premise 1 is a choice made out of economic necessity. Which one do you think eventually wins? Which has the stronger pull? So, as MEN, what´s our TARGET?

Do certain behaviors serve to build repeat business? Of course!As it has been mentioned many times before, they at times display an expectation of attachment, real or imagined. From an external perspective, this behavior appears TOTALLY INCONGRUENT with the enviroment, i.e. "I go with different guys everyday, but you're only supposed to leave with me." Yet, if you STEP INTO the fantasy, which the women must do to some degree to perform the job, it seems perfectly plausible. My point wasn´t some much THAT it existed, but rather the FREQUENCY with which it is displayed (which seems to increase each trip).

The situation I was refering to a few months ago (feel free to read the posts) involved a Brazilian whose room mate told her I took another woman out when she wasn´t there. (important point; with another guy perhaps). Her response was not to get angry when she immediately saw me, but rather to wait until later in bed, after we had spent 8 hours together. The end result was we argued and that pretty much ended things. Now, if we return to our initial premise...does this take her closer to or further away from her financial objective....? Then I return to BA several months later and in a totally different club run into the "friend" that pointed out my supposed transgression. She remembered ME and brought it up while I was talking to someone else. She vouched for me as being a good guy, then began the story about the Brazilian. Why...?

The "game" is about seperating "the real" from "the bullshit", which is interestingly SIMILAR to dating non pro´s. As participants we know that a great deal of what happens is "bullshit" in the traditional sense. (However, if we wanted traditional, we´d stay home). Now, you can approach this with the assumption that everything is "bullshit", which is very sad. Or you can be some schmuck who thinks it´s ALL "real". More often than not, there will be some elements of both. The trick is can you tell one from the other, and more importantly, make use of that which serves your desires and objectives while discarding the rest.

Final comment:
Since I started posting on this board almost 2 years ago, my comments have all had a similar theme: looking at patterns of behavior and discussing ways to make use of those behavior patterns. WHY as opposed to HOW. To the extent that you find this information useful, great. I view it as an adjunct to the various posts on prices, places, hotels, etc. "Now that you know where to go and what to pay, let's look for a ways to maximize the outcome or experience."

Duruma

01-24-04, 17:23

For the AMA meeting lets designate a particular spot like the bar in the lobby. Lets all grab a bar stool and hang out till 11 to pick up any stragglers.

Duruma

Flexible Horn

01-24-04, 18:22

drgn

Interesting report,

After reading reports from all over, I have decided I just have to spend some "Quality Time" in BA.

I agree that renting an apartment, is a better option. If possible could you post me details of your rented apartment.

Thanks, Flexible Horn

Lexton

01-24-04, 20:00

Drgn: You don't tell us where you found the $30ar/copa woman who could not leave. Was she at all up front before you bought the drink?

I really dislike this crap. Right now, I understand it can happen in Solid Gold, Solome, and Cristobal Colon(aka SNOB). In SNOB the women seem to be generallly honest about it if you ask first.

Also, can you tell us how you found the apartment and the cost, if it's not too personal?

Thanks.

Frans

01-25-04, 13:00

WEEK 2 REPORT CARD

Laura, sensualbaires : 40 years old, 1m70, thin, very well shaped with superb D-natural breast, great legs, nice woman face. 100P(28 euros) the session, conventional service with cbj. Though cbj is usually a deal-breaker, I made an exception for Laura. Oral sex was fine and sex was very good. I went to see her twice twice.

Maria de Los Angeles, Excedra: I very much like the atmosphere at Excedra. Daytime, you sit there and have to figure out who is pro and who is not. at night there are only pro. Maria, 37 years old, dyied blonde, well tanned body, 1m65, nice boobs pointing out of her top. She is quite sexy in her trousers but a bit flabby naked and the legs are not so nice. 150P(42 euros) the session for bbj and conventional sex. Very good oral technique, sex was good though I found that she tends to hurry things a little bit and also, for my taste, she is a bit too talkative. Nice lady however.

Adrianna, Hooks: One the best looking girls at Hooks, nice face, white pale skin, long dark hair, 1m 65. I had a good recollection of marianna and my experience with her last year. But I guess memories are subjective because this time oral sex was below average and intercourse fair only. 100P + 18P exit-drink = 118p(33 euros) for an average session.

Blacks: I went there with a fellow monger and met Otto. At 11:30 the place was packed with chicas. Compared to Madahos the assets quality can be described as of higher average and lower standard deviation, in other words the average Black girl looks better than the average Madahos girl and the beauty quality is much more homogeneous. I approached Lucianna from Brazil, she asked for US200 (way out world market prices), was not willing to move down so I kindly told her bye, bye. I was again at Black on saturday around 3am, approached Gabriella : opening bid us200 but she moved quickly to 300P + 60P exit drink , But decided to take a pass. I am wondering what is actually the current paid price at Blacks?

Puerta Colon: On Las Heras, 7-8 girls. The best looking, by far, is Maris-Estrella an 1m70 leggy lady with a superb "high jumper" body dressed in a mini-skirt. 100P + 25P exit drink. The good news stops here. During our face to face I discover she had a terrible bad breath and was abit passive in bed. I sent her back pretexting I was a bit tired.

Julietta, Platynum : based on a recent post regarding a leggy blonde I went to check Julietta. The Platynum pictures are quite nice but I found that reality was a bit different. I decided to take a pass

Marianna, Hooks : 30 years old, 1m60, very very thin, long black hair, nice face, 100P+18P exit drink. good bbj and ok sex but nothing special

Overall week 2 was a bit different from week 1 as I decided to spent much more time with Maitte who to this date remains, for me, by far the best value proposition of this trip.

OttoGraham

01-25-04, 13:41

Originally posted by The Pirate

Gentlemen,

If any of you who "live" in Argentina need something that you can only find in the U.S., let me know. I will have a little spare room in my bag for the BA trip and would not mind bringing it down for you. I'll be there in 6 days. Just drop a PM in my box.

Stay Safe,

The Pirate

What a great way to become part of the board, Pirate! Nice gesture.

I hope you enjoy your trip, and if you have any questions which need answering before you leave or while you're there, please do ask.

-Uncle Otto

Havanaman

01-25-04, 14:33

Gentlemen,

Quite a number of you have PM and emailed me regarding the very "short" Clarin chica I was with on my last trip.

We learn something everyday: I had no idea that “short-women” was such a sought after fetish… However, sorry Gentlemen, Aramia was just a fill-in while I had nothing else to do so I did not keep her number.

I guess trial and error will get you to her… She was advertised in the first column of the Clarin adds (under “A”).

Sorry I can not be of any more help: lesson learned in future I will keep ALL contacts. Stop asking me about her!

Regards, Havanaman

Exon123

01-25-04, 15:23

Stormy is right the term "hooker" came from Union General Hooker,s idea of having prostitutes around his encampments of men to satisfy his their carnal needs durning the Civil War --- Thus the term "Hookers" named after the famious general ---- Too Jak & drgn --- I both agree and disargee --- Thease women are human --- If you show them both love and affection they will respond acordingly --- Say you get into a real GFE with dinner, movies and really great sessions in the bedroom --- Well of course shes going to feel hurt when she see's you with another woman --- My recent experience with Carolina is a good example --- She really did have tears in her eyes when she discovered the used condom wapper on the night stand and knew I had been cheating on her --- And yes she was screwing me for the money, but money was only mentioned once durning our relationship --- The first night I pulled her out of New Port for $150 pesos after that money was never mentioned again --- I would just very discreetly place an appropriate amount of money in her hand with out saying a word to her when the session was over as we kissed goodby --- The best example of this is Sylvina whom truly loves Jackson, all you have to due is see them together and watch her in Jacksons presence --- But yes theres a financial arangement envloved, but you notice Jackson is not sharing so you know there must be something their on Jackson part too --- Too sum this all up one must be careful with thease women if you are a repeat customer to B.A. --- And this is the reason I try to limit my mongering to one girl per club to avoid thease unplesant cirmcumstances --- Exon

drgn

01-25-04, 22:40

Actually scored dinner with a non pro who works as a waitress near the apartment. Another little one. (Is this some kind of message from God.....) Any way, got ¨the look¨ when I first went to eat there, which was cool because she has these cool green eyes. She keeps coming over to talk to me and gets in trouble with the other waitresses for doing it (wasn´t her section). This goes on for several days, until I finally get the bright idea to actually SIT in her section. Duh! Intellectual artsy type, into the struggles of the common man, etc. Tells me Recoleta is a LIE and not the real Buenos Aires. (Okay, young one, I´ve got your number...don´t you just love the idealistic college kids.) I represent an OUTSIDER, someone with whom she can discuss her true feelings and opinions. I listen attentively, inserting comments where I thought appropriate, even though I only understood about 30% of what she said. Dinner is on...we´ll see. POINT: Become a regular. Repetition. Familiarity. Trust. Etc.

Last night I did another session with the wee one. She ended up staying from 8 pm til about 3 this afternoon. She was pissed because I hadn´t done any shopping and she wanted to make use of the kitchen. At first I thought she was joking but she kept repeating over the course of several days. My fault for not paying attention. She actually wanted to cook instead of going out to dinner. Go figure...

While she was her, another woman called my phone 7, yes 7 times through out the evening. I kept telling the wee one it couldn´t possibly be important, and at one point I thought she was going to answer. (Experienced girl, knows better). She took everything in stride and actually hugged me tighter every time the phone rang. Well, I checked the voicemail, and yes, another chica to whom I had given my number was calling me to find out where I was. For the record, we did NOT have plans. Around 2:30am I answered the phone and had a little chat with her...

Will keep you posted. Hopefully, I don´t have a stalker on my hands.

Thebar where I met the Terri Hatcher/Jessica Alba clone was in Centro, Le Pief, I think. It´s off Florida. No, she wasn´t up front about not leaving until I asked. I´ll post the apartment info soon.

Mojokpr

01-26-04, 06:33

I just want to chime in along with Exon, these ladies we see here and at many other locals really need to be treated like ladies. Of course, there are exceptions, but the ones that I've met have been very sweet, great company, and fun to be around. I've found that they respond magnificently if you find one that you like, offer to take them out for an evening of dining, dancing, running around town, they will treat you wonderfully. I've found myself running around town with some of the sexiest ladies, having a blast.

Be fair with them, too. Don't tell them a bunch of crap about how much you love them; some will tend to believe it and they hurt, just like us. It's fair to tell them how you feel about them, just don't mislead them.

I guess this is intended more for the guys that like gfe's, which is where I am. If you're more of the "hit it, quit it" type, this may not matter much.

Bozology

01-26-04, 18:11

Hi all,

Arrived in beautiful Buenos Aires this morning. We will go out oogling, and maybe googling tonight around Centro. Touring the city tomorrow with Roxana and the story gets better from there. Thank everyone for all their valuable advice. I read the forum cover to cover and feel very good about my feel for the city.

Regards,

Bozology

OttoGraham

01-26-04, 19:28

Shampoo Report

Quintana 362 (near Callao) (in Recoleta) 4816-4100

I was there last Monday night at about 1:00 a.m. There were approximately 15 girls in the place, with maybe 4 men. The range was satisfactory, in my terms ranging from 5s to 7s. Maybe an 8 or two. No word on price for takeout, as I was just in for a drink (25 pesos IIRC). Girls are friendly but not overbearing, the place clean, mirrored, with a stage and a center bar. Certainly worth poking your head in.

-Uncle Otto

OttoGraham

01-26-04, 19:31

Pipper's Bar Report

Suipacha (in Centro)

At about 2:00 a.m. last Monday night I poked my head in. A dark establishment with a bar running down the side. Free admission. There were about 5 girls inside, with 1 or 2 gentlemen. None of the girls was worth a second look IMO, and I didn't even stop to order a drink. I would recommend going only to take a quick look around to see if there is something to your liking.

-Uncle Otto

OttoGraham

01-26-04, 19:34

Ness Report

Suipacha 919 (near Paraguay) (in Centro) 4515-0225

Last Monday night while making the rounds I took a look inside this place, which is on the same block as about 4 other clubs. It is lighter inside than Cattos or Pipper's. Free admission when I visited. At about 2:00 a.m. there were maybe 8-10 girls working, with 3-4 gentlemen sitting about. There is a karaoke/singing stage to your left as you enter, and a bar along the wall further back to your left. Personally I didn't see anyone to pique my interest, and left without ordering a drink.

-Uncle Otto

OttoGraham

01-26-04, 19:38

Catto's Report

Suipacha 930 (near Paraguay) (in Centro) 4328-8594

By far the darkest club in Buenos Aires. When you combine the darkness with your state of drunkenness, there exists a real possibility of taking out a really Coyote Ugly from this joint. Friendly (or is that over-friendly?) girls who will wrap themselves on you. On last Monday night there were perhaps 15 girls working, maybe more, I don't know the exact number because it was so damn dark. Don't ask me what they looked like because I couldn't see anything. Free admission.

Occasionally they have a decent floorshow, one time I saw a torch singer do a pretty good job. But have never found something I liked enough to take out of here. On the other hand, other guys whose taste in chicks I respect have found some. So YMMV. On a good night, definitely worth visiting. Bring a flashlight. ;)

-Uncle Otto

OttoGraham

01-26-04, 19:43

Hook's Report

Suipacha 936 (near Paraguay) (in Centro) 4328-8593

Last Monday at about 1:30 I visited Hook. Hook is down a flight of stairs on the same street as several other places.

IMO the girls here are mostly Paraguayans, Dominicans, or other mixed-race Latinas. My personal taste in women may account for why I was not very impressed with the selection on order. Definitely, as jamesbond69 said, "dressed on the slutty side." ;)

Forget exactly how much my drink was, I had about 10 gin and tonics on the night, and Hook's probably accounted for numbers 7 and 8. :D 20-25 pesos maybe?

Girls not pushy, strip show/dancing poles available for entertainment. Smallish place, and on last Monday night there were probably 20 girls working, with about 6-7 guys there. Since most of the guys except us were Potenos, that meant that jamesbond and I were the only guys likely in the market for purchasing. But I passed.

-Uncle Otto

OttoGraham

01-26-04, 19:48

Affaire Recoleta Report

Guido 1967 (near Junin) (in Recoleta) 4803-1812 / 4806-6

Hit this place about 3:00 a.m. last Monday night. Probably 15 girls working, 4 guys visiting. Plenty of decent-looking girls, no stunners, topping out at an 8. In my drunken stupor I was put upon by two girls who wanted to work a tag team with me. 150 pesos each (+50 pesos for two drinks for the girlies), and a fine time was had by all. No muss, no fuss, easily negotiated.

25 pesos for entry, includes your first drink. I got back a coupon for a second drink for 15 pesos or something like that. If the air is not working this place can be on the smoky side.

Former working home of the gone (but not forgotten!) Roxy, friend to many a monger on this board and a terrific lay.

Recommended as a stop on your tour. Girls ARE friendly without being pushy.

-Uncle Otto

OttoGraham

01-26-04, 19:55

Madaho Report

Azcuenaga & Vincente Lopez (in Recoleta) 4805-3208 / 4807-1311

Last Monday night this place, one of the biggest and best clubs in Buenos Aires, was curiously slow. Probably 30 girls working, with maybe 12 guys in attendance. Of course, I saw the shark Tatiana latched onto some hapless Gringo ready to drain his wallet in return for bad service. Avoid her like the plague! In order to run her off you might need to be nasty! ;)

Good looking girls on average. 25 pesos entrance (includes one drink), or not, depending on the mood of the people at the door and whether or not you say you are "un amigo de Jackson." Still, it doesn't matter since most drinks are 25 pesos anyway. I suppose it only matters if you intend to come in and not drink anything.

Excellent place for having a cold one, however, with excellent people watching. My morbid pleasure in this regard is watching the aforementioned Tatiana in action on the dopes who aren't wise to her nonsense.

-Uncle Otto

OttoGraham

01-26-04, 20:06

Black Report

Ayacucho & Alvear (in Recoleta) 4804-9652 / 9749

BIG NEWS!

Black, the club with the best girls in Buenos Aires, has now gotten better. Management has increased the number of girls working from about 50-60 a night to 120 or so, with only a slight decrease in overall quality. The law of supply and demand being what it is, though, is that average prices have definitely gone down in the last couple of months while quality remains the highest in Buenos Aires.

IMO there are probably 5-6 10s working every night, 5-6 more 9s, and whole groups of 7s and 8s. The lowest score I would assess in this place is a 5. In keeping with my preferences there are mostly European-blooded girls here rather than the mixed-race Latinas who are more predominate in other clubs.

Price - herein's the rub. It is extremely variable. The later in the night - cheaper. The better looking you are - cheaper. The lower the number of fellows there - cheaper. The better you speak Spanish - cheaper. The more experienced you are in visiting Buenos Aires - cheaper. The more effort you put into negotiating - cheaper.

That said, if you are the typical ugly, non-Spanish speaking, inexperienced, poorly-negotiating tourist in for 6-10 days of mongering, you're probably going to top out at about US$300 for several hours' of fun. Which is what an hour will cost you with a butt-ugly chick at home in Denver.

Personally, I've never paid more than 400 pesos, but I am: 1) extremely handsome; 2) cultured and charming; 3) a fairly decent, Spanish-speaking negotiator. ;)

Ask for the waitress "Edit," a blonde with a big rack, tell her you are a friend of the Norteamericano who drinks Tanqueray and tonic, comes to visit often, and she will treat you right. Ask for recommendations, she is not shy in finding you an English-speaking girl, or whatever your preference may be. (Though I don't ask her about girls' sexual preferences such as a-levels or BBBJ or whatnot.) My Tanqueray is always with a couple of shots of gin which she pours in front of me, with a side of tonic. Runs 35 pesos, with a few tapas thrown in. Probably equivalent to two drinks in most other places.

One thing Saint taught me - if you see something you like, but aren't going to take out at night, get her cellular telephone number to arrange some daytime fun. Prices are cheaper during the day, too.

-Uncle Otto

Dangerq

01-26-04, 20:52

Crouper (sp??) - off of Neuvo de Julio around Lavalle

Avoid this place like the plague!

I admit to being a newbie and probably should have known better but I got talked in to going downstairs and was immediatley flanked by a larger unattractive lady and a aonther younger girl (6-7).

I sat down (that was stupid) on the premise of having how things work explained - within two minutes there were three drinks on the table, a bill for 30 then 60 then 70 pesos and two rather large gentlemen saying I need to pay for the ladies drinks.

I won´t go in there again. You may have better luck if you are an old hand but newbies beware!

DQ (aka Jack)

Hi DQ,

Croupier just recently change ownership, and the new owners have turned it into a tourist fleece joint. I hate to say this, but this info was reported in the Forum a couple of weeks ago.

Thanks,

Jackson

Dancesw/Chicas

01-26-04, 21:39

Otto,
I hane not read news that good in so long!!!
I knew Black's was in for a change sooner or later.
Your post deserve an applause! bravissimo!!
DWC

Andres

01-27-04, 00:25

Bad news in Flores:

A guy informed in the local board that a boliche in Flores (Dolys or Liza) was busted last Sunday. Police forced the guy to provide his contact info in order to be summoned as a witness, but it's unlikely that something will happen to any patron.

Just to keep your antennae on, since last week another boliche 2 blocks from to Cielo Private was busted.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Waterboy

01-27-04, 03:11

THE KING IS DEAD

With much sadness I must report David A. a.k.a. David1967 a.k.a. Lollipopman is no longer with us. His last thoughts were of his mongering buddies in BA. In fact his last words before the end were, “When you guys are kissing the girls in Affaire you will be tasting my cock.”

I think he would have wanted the members the board to have his last notes. He was in BA from January 11-20, 2004. Therefore the following are his notes presented exactly as they were written:

I went to 973 Esmeralda 9E everyday to see the new girls, hang out with the patrona, and pick up some innocent girls. As Mr. Jackson said it is a hit or miss depending on who was there. Melanie who is posted in germinos has gained weight, but is going to the gym and is beginning to look a little better. She is a very good provider from experience. She provides bbj and I give 40ps extra for anal. The price should be about 80ps for one hour, 50ps for half-hour. This is what they usually charge some guy they may ask for more but you should refuse. If you do post it on the board please. I want to know. Remember, this is a man’s world. You tell them what you want. Do not ask them what they are giving. Therefore you will get what you want and they will have more respect for you. They had a new Paraguayan girl working there the day I left. I also believe Nicole should be a good provider as she is usually busy when I show up.

AFFAIRE UPDATE

It does my heart proud that someone read my reports on Affaire, went down to the club, paid 20ps to get in, and tried? To get a date for 100ps. Not so fast my friend! I am curious to know who is using my technique and how successful are you? I would like to complain if you are following my technique but the truth is it is a copy of someone who taught me. The turn over at Affaire continues to be high so there are a new crop of girls to see.

Full disclosure- If I have to translate Spanish for you- you have to pay to the tourist rate.

Friendly advice: When you walk into a club (Bar, etc) talk to the customers first before you talk to the girls, the bartender and all the other sharks in waiting. I find these Argentine men don’t want you to over pay and ruin the market for them. Personally all you guys paying these girls more than I do has not ruined it for me. It helps to to see the same girls over and over again.

Some of you guys have been copying my reports and using my techniques. I know because the girls are complaining to management. It is no wonder some of the girls are not talking to me. I want to thank you with all my heart. I now have a real reputation as a cheapskate. This makes life easy for me in the long run. The girls who do not want my money are not talking to me. This has really cut down on the bullshit. The down side is I have hurt some girls that were getting 150ps previously. Do not worry I have a plan in motion to repair my relationship with the ones I like the most.

OTHER THINGS I HAVE LEARNED

Cell Phones-Some of the girls cell phones do not work if you call from a locatorio. If you call from a pay phone they should work. If anyone knows the answer can you post the answer?

Eating: I had lunch at this restaurant and the food and service was good. The restaurant was FILO 975 Calle San Martin 4311-0312/ 1871 www.filo-ristorante.com about two blocks from café Orleans.

Sodoma Club: (The Search For Luna) I only went there to see one of my favorite girls in BA.(Luna is the flat chested short woman with a heart tattoo with an arrow going through the center) She had to leave over a dispute with another girl. It cost 20ps for two drinks to enter and 50ps to take a girl out. (Or at least that’s what they told me) In all honesty it was my first and last time in that place. On a Saturday it was dead, the girls looked bored, and were not prettier than what I was getting in Affaire.

I was looking for this girl all week. As the norm you can’t trust what these girls say. They all pretended not to know were she was working. There are others that lied to me and told me misinformation. That’s okay I keep notes and have a long memory. When people lie to me I never forget. It was ashamed, as I was willing to pay GOOD MONEY for accurate information. I always remember people who help me.

Non-Argentine girls: When I date a non-Argentine girl I now try to get an e-mail address and a phone number in their home country. This makes it easier to tack them down if I have too. Just remember to get their real name and cover story. It seems everyone is a secretary now. One Paraguayan girl has three sisters in Paraguay. It should be an interesting trip to Paraguay in June 2004.

Well those are the lasts of his notes. I hope you can make sense of them and put them to good use. David1967 will be missed by all of us. His penis may have been the smallest in the game, but I do not know of a nicer one in all of BA. He will be missed in Affaire. The moderator can close this account now as it is no longer needed.

THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING

Dave,

The answer to the cell phone situation is: In Argentina, like most of the rest of the world except the USA, the person placing the call to a cell phone incurs the charge. This is why your or a chica's cell phone can still accept incoming calls even if the phone has no credit. However, the exception to this rule is the locotorios. Because they do not want to incur the additional charge for the cell phone call (it's approximately twice the cost of a call to a land line phone), they have things arranged so that calls placed from their locotorio to a cell phone are charged to the cell phone. As a result, if the cell phone does not have any credit, the call does not go through.

This situation is also in effect when calling cell phone to cell phone. Both cell phones must have credit on their accounts, and both phones incur a charge.

I discovered this when I kept running out of time on my cell phone even though I wasn't making outgoing calls, because mongers and chicas were calling me from locotorios.

Thanks,

Jackson

MoonDog

01-27-04, 04:51

OttoGraham,

Thanks for a nice series of reports.

Moondog

MoonDog

01-28-04, 01:10

Is Madahos open on Sunday nights?

ChicagoBoy23

01-28-04, 02:04

It was open on Sunday when I was there in November

Dancesw/Chicas

01-28-04, 03:22

Jackson, David,

There are few locutorios where you can call a cell that has no-credit. I used to call a chica from the locutorio at Florida and Cordoba. Is like 3 times more expensive.

DWC

Dingman

01-28-04, 05:22

MoonDog,

Madahos should be open on Sunday nights. I talked to one of the doormen on my trip in October and he told me they were open every night including most (maybe even all) holidays. Can anybody confirm this? I was there during Columbus Day and they were open.

Dman

I'm not sure what the confusion is, Madahos has always been open 7 days a week EXCEPT on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Year's Eve and New Years Day.

Thanks,

Jackson

MoonDog

01-28-04, 07:04

Thanks

MeGustaBoliches

01-28-04, 10:05

Moondog,

I have had better luck at Afairre on Sunday nights....but this can be hit or miss, as you know....

MoonDog

01-28-04, 12:51

Ok, thanks.

Marcos

01-29-04, 02:46

About Hook to expand on Otto´s findings. Actually is not a bad place at all. Drinks are p. 12 for guys and 18 for the girls, that pays for her to be out one hour or more, depending on where are you bringing her. Snacks are free and nobody is too pushy about you buying drinks. I only had an argument with the older waiter as he cheated me the outrageous value of a chica´s drink.
I know a sweet good girl there, S. She is a quite attractive young slim blonde that know what it does, and does it well. Recomended. Not the same for her cousin, a chesty brunette that basically lacks talent but has good disposition. Also I noticed two hot paraguyas, both almost-petite brunettes, both good pole-dancers. All will be happy with ar$ 100 if you know how to handle it.

MCSE

01-29-04, 05:20

Since 1999 Argentina uses calling party pays system (with some restrictions), moslty the origin call pays, this has not been applied to the locutorios yet. (I ask myself why) Locutorios are only enabled to make local calls to land phones. So when you call from a locutorio to a cell phone, the cell phone will be charged for the incoming call. Some locutorios may offer you to call a cell phone with no credit for an extra charge with a normal line located into the locutorio.

From cell phone to cell phone it's unrestricted calling party pays.

For cell phones you can either get billed each month or buy a pre-paid card anytime you need.

Chicas mostly buy pre-paid cards, so for calling them if they have no credit you can call from:

-Another cell phone with credit enough
-A land net regular phone
-A locutorio: you can buy a long distance card at any kiosk or locutorio and call using the card.

OttoGraham

01-29-04, 19:20

1707 Santa Fe Report

Almost forgot to post this little gem!

Visited 1707 Santa Fe last week. You must ring in to the third floor. Up an elevator.

A lady by the name of "Silvia" or "Silvina" greeted me, and ushered me into a waiting room. Told me the rate was 100 pesos an hour, additional if one is interested in A-levels. Whereupon not less than NINE sweet young things clad in heels, panties, and bras paraded one after another into the room. All of them were eminently doable, I would judge 4 7s, 4 8s, and a 9.

Tip: Bring a writing pad and pen with you. Each will introduce herself, give you a kiss on the cheek, and prance around for a second or two. Write her name down and whatever note you need to remember her description. In a rush of prime pussy, you WILL forget the name of that certain little number who looked best to you! ;)

I've been here before, and must say the selection on this most recent visit was the best ever. Closed on Sunday, open from 11ish in the morning until very late at night.

Unless your taste runs to skanks, I am certain you will find something to your liking in this bordello. :D :D :D

-Uncle Otto

Stormy

01-29-04, 20:16

To add to OttoGraham's report on 1707 -

Ask Sylvia the manager for a card with the telephone number.

Outcall is available (one hour minimum, I think) at the same price as incall (plus taxi).

Dancesw/Chicas

01-30-04, 00:58

Otto,
So many times I thought about the notepad but I just never
get around to bring one. You have to do it by memory...
Who did you choose?
If you ask Silvia she will tell that some of the girls are listed
in Platynum.
1107 is probably the best incall in BA.
DWC

Woof Woof

01-30-04, 01:35

Otto,

Thanks for the latest report on 1707. It wasn't too long ago--less than a month ago that a fellow monger reported the rate as 60 pesos for standard service. Maybe I'm thinking of the half-hour rate. Do they have half-hour service? I think for 100 pesos, you can see a chica from escorts.baires at her incall where the facilities might be better. That is, shower and larger towels to dry off.

Knuckhead

01-30-04, 01:39

My Line up Strategy

When presented with a line up, I can not agree more with Otto about having a method to remember the one you are most interested in. It is the most delightful problem to have! Between wiping the drool off one's face and lifting his jaw from the floor, one tends to forget the name of that one special chica.

Here's what I do: When the first chica walks in, I'll memorize her name, hug her, and say Gracias. She leaves. I'll "hold on" to that one name in my memory. Then the second chica comes in. I'll make a quick determination if I like this one better than the last one. If I like her more, then I immediately "over write" the name in my memory with this new one. Otherwise, I'll just ignore ever having heard this second name, and "hold on" to the name already in my memory. This process gets repeated as many times as there are chicas, with only ONE name in your memory at any given time (the best one presented to you so far). At the end of the parade, just say the name in your memory. Not only does this method help you remeber the right chica, but also it aids in choosing between them. It forces you to choose between two girls at any given time, as opposed to comparing 7-8 girls together. Again, I only wish all my problems were so sweet!

Exon123

01-30-04, 15:34

Santa Fe 1707 does have a 30 minnute quickie for 60 pesos --- Its a great value and takes the edge off in the mornings that you wake up alone --- Exon

Saint

01-30-04, 18:05

Glad you had fun Otto. 1707 Santa Fe is hit or miss. When it's good it's really good and when it's bad it's....bad. Almost all of those girls work on Platynum. Every single girl I've seen from there has been on the website.

Remember that you don't have to see the girls there. It's the same price to pull them out and see them in your apartment or hotel. (You only need to pay their taxi fare both ways). I have never stayed there. I always bring them back to my apartment. You get a MUCH better session and it gives you a chance to build rapport with the girls. Every single time the girl has stayed more than the allowed one hour. One one instance, the girl stayed a long time and had me call in and say she left so she wouldn't get in trouble.

I've always done social things with a few of these girls like lunches and dinners. I've met up a few times with Moondog with girls I've met from here. He can tell you that they were quite stunning.

The key to really GREAT sessions is standing out and differentiating yourself from all the other Joe Blows. I'd highly recommend bringing these girls back to your apartment/hotel.

Good luck. I'll probably head down to BA later this summer. I miss the place. Hold down the fort for me till I get back.

Saint

The Pirate

02-02-04, 14:13

BA Round 1:

After a long "sleepy" flight from the East coast of the US, I am finally in BA, I get in, grab some Pesos from the ATM (Main EZE Lobby) and of in a Remis cab to the hotel. Once I get in and get settled I call Roxana who wad a tentative appointment set-up for me. Roxana told me she would confirm every thing and that I should call her back in 2 hours. I nap, shop and shower and by then it is time to call her back. Bad news - my first choice (an Internet beauty) is not available. Good news - the "2nd stringer" I chose was available. Roxana gives me the address and off I go ( Important: Roxana´s service is supreme! Utilize her, it is well worth it)

I arrive at the chicas apartment and ring the buzzer to be let in. Up a flight of stairs to a door that is partially cracked. Bad News - the girl who opens the door is not the girl in the picture. Good News - she is not "unattractive", but just not really my type. So gentlemen, I am now at a "fork in the road". Do I leave? Or do I may the best of it? I chose to see what she could do for me. After some small talk (due to my limited Spanish), we are off to the sack. Her positives - great attitude, attacked me like a tiger, cute body. Her "not so positives" - CBJ, small chest, no anal. The sex was about a 5 on a 1-10 scale. I do not know if it was the jet lag or my slight lack of interest in her but I had a hard time reaching a climax. We finish up (100 pesos to the chica) and she offers me a shower, I decline and decide to head back to the room to shower and look for another cutie.

Then it hits me, Super Bowl Sunday! I head to the bar to watch the game. It was a unique experience to see the NFL in 100% Spanish, ha ha. Oh well, I get restless (and loaded) at the bar and I head off to the Recloeta. I get dropped of near Affaire, but opt not to go in (and there were a few "salesman" trying to convince me otherwise). Off to Madhaos, they also had the game on wide screen! Yes! The women in there were attractive, 2 or 3 (9's). I sat wand watched the game to the end (great game). I spoke with a few of the ladies, it seemed the going rate was between 150-200 pesos, plus the bar drink for the girls. I just could not pull the trigger! I spoke with a smokin Brazilian, wow! She offered 150 pesos for and hour and the hotel near by. As I am speaking to her, I am about an inch away from saying yes and then decide to "look for other options" ( I will kick myself later - read on).

I head off to Affaire, pay 15 pesos and I head in to take a peek. The quality was not as good as Madahos, but I drink my beer and chit chat. The price in there was about 120 Pesos per hour. So now I start thinking, "gee, that Brazilian was hot, maybe I should go back for her. As I leave it hits me that I have been drinking for about 6 hours straight now - my body starts to inform me that between the jet lag and my drinking that it has decided to shut down. I stumble into a radio taxi (the black and yellow ones) and head back to the hotel and crash. Live to fight another day! Ha! I shall seek the booty of that Brazilian very soon!

More Updates to follow.

Stay Safe,

The Pirate

OttoGraham

02-02-04, 17:48

Nice start to your trip, Pirate! Keep up the correspondence!

-Uncle Otto

Lukasek

02-02-04, 18:21

Ciao Pirate!

I think too, it was a good starting trip!

You will remain in BA, or you will go to other city? How is the situation in Mar De Plata?I think cheaper girls, or not?

I never been in Argentina, but I would like to go in next September. Who here knows if there in September will be hot or yet cold?

We are waiting for your next Report:O),

Enjoy all BA,

bye Pirate

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Bodhi

02-02-04, 19:08

Hiya all,

I will be in BA around the 6th of Feb., and therefore an inquiring about any tel numbers of chicas and recommendations for Clarin, and such, since I am now on a restricted budget.

Folks wishing to contact me may contact me via the forum.

Ciao until soon,

Bodhi

p.s.: Carlos Paz, near Cordoba is now full of tourists, but the girls are tops, 100 peso, and I visited one boliche Tiffany's where the talent looked decent and young, although the lighting was poor...

The Pirate

02-02-04, 23:22

BA Round 2:

After a much needed nights sleep I started my second day in BA. After I grab a bite to eat I decided to venture out for a short stroll around the hotel area. The women in this city are by far some of the most beautiful women that I have seen on this earth (collected in one area). It was a treat to walk around and take in the fast pace of this city. After the walk it was time to decide what I was going to do with the afternoon. Option 1 - Apartment Girls; Option 2- another Internet Girl. I went for option 1, so of I go to 1707.

I arrive and get buzzed in, up the stairs to the third floor (yes, there is an elevator). A young lady opens the door and welcomes me with a kiss on the cheek (Sylvia) we chat for a quick minute and she leads me to a room and ask me to have a seat. After about 2 minutes, she leads me to another room (larger, waiting room) to have a seat. So as I sit I start to think about some of the stories that I have read on this board - about the whole selection process (this is where the story gets funny for me). So I come up with a strategy to remember who I think is the cutest girl. I will just "lock" the name of the cutest girl and only "replace" that name with one that I find more attractive (it seemed so easy in my head)

So in they walk in one by one. The first girl walks in and I think to myself - "wow, she is a cutie!". So as she leaves I burn her name into my head. The second girl comes in, she is cute but a no. Same with the third. Now the fourth comes in, and gentlemen, she was a 8.5 (no joke, wow). So now I am debating with myself, 1st or 4th girl ( there were only 4 working when I was there). I decide on the fourth girl and Sylvia walks in to ask me for my choice. I tell her the name and minutes later I hear a tap at the door. I was 100% sure I said the name of the 4th girl, but as I would soon find out I must have said the 1st girls name. I just did not have the heart to tell her I gave the wrong name, if you could have only seen her face! She had a nice body (7), and her smile would light up a room. I just could not stop laughing at myself for saying the wrong name! So we start the session, good time - kissing, CBJ, Cowgirl and Doggie. Her oral skills were good, just not great. Nice ass though, that made up for it. We finish and head out of the room. Sylvia made sure to ask me how it was and if I was happy. Overall the service was very good at 1707, it was well worth the 100 pesos (hour) and I will be sure to go back (yes, for girl number 4). More to come.

Stay Safe,

The Pirate

Dancesw/Chicas

02-03-04, 06:32

Pirate,
The chica parade at 1017 is becoming world famous!! I love it.
You were lucky there were only four, because it gets a
little difficult when they are 8 or 9.
Did you remember the names of your 1 and 4?
DWC

OttoGraham

02-03-04, 12:55

Lukasek

September in Buenos Aires is Springtime - like March in Rome, it can be warn or cool. But never ice cold. It is a nice time to visit, honestly. Summer can get too hot for my taste, although this summer in Buenos Aires has been quite moderate.

-Uncle Otto

The Pirate

02-03-04, 14:14

DWC,

The first girl was Jessica. The fourth, I have no idea!

Lukasek

02-03-04, 15:14

Uncle Otto,

Thank you for your answer. I think yesterday I was drunk by the foto that you guys put in photo gallery, cause I think, and though to go there in November but I wrote September.

Yes, so in November as May in Rome, so not many tourist, right?

If, as I think, I will go to Mar de Plata in November. Is it good weather to take sun and swim, or ocean in November yet cold?

I read here guys speaking about Mayra at argentinago. This woman can arrange flat and eventually ticket to MDP? How much she charge?

One medium flat how many pesos for one day I could find in BA and I think cheaper in MDP?

What about sim card for Handy? And mainly a mobile phone european that work with 900 and 1800mhz can work in Argentina or they have 1900mhz?

Thank you very much for answer!

If I have some other question, could please contact you by pm?

Take care,

Ciao

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The Pirate

02-03-04, 16:23

Lukasek,

I am not sure what it is like in other parts of Argentina. Yes, I plan to stay in BA for my entire trip.

Weather - Perfect.

Thanks,

The Pirate

Jackpot

02-03-04, 17:03

Greetings,

On Feb. 6, I arrive in BA. Have contacted Roxanna for an apt. but have not received a response. Is she on vacation?

Would like to attend an AMA meeting. Are these meets posted anywhere?

Have just left Pattaya, Thailand, and would be happy to share my mongering experiences to those interested in the far east.

If anyone wants to have a beer and divulge their experiences in BA please post me with a PM. I'm a golfer and am looking for some course's and input on the golf scene. Would also like to get input on buying property in BA. I realize the economics there are a bit flacid but the prices are "such a deal".

Is there a place where the WSG members hang out, (ie. hotel, bar, coffee shop, etc)?

Can't wait to brush up on my Spanish and test it on the Chicas.

Will be in BA for 6 weeks and am looking for a spanish school for a refresher course. Any suggestions?

10/4 Jackpot

Bodhi

02-03-04, 19:45

Greetings to all,

As I will be in BA probably by this coming friday, I kindly request any information about the aforementioned Carolina, the Brazilian woman, who used to work in Cafe Orleans, and was reviewed very favorably. Please contact me via the priv. msgs.
Also, any other Brazilian chica contacts would be most appreciated. I cannot afford to travel to Brazil presently.
Finally, once again, Please: doesn't anybody have any recommendations/tel.numbers of Clarin girls?

Many thanks,

Bodhi.

El Aleman

02-04-04, 09:13

Lukasek:

Argentina uses the 1900 MHz, American frequency, GSM. Triband phones work, but using your european SIM card will be expensive.

As to Mayra, she more or less runs the "Argentinago" travel agency, and she will be able to arrange everything you need in Argentina, as far as travelling is concerned. Besides that, she is a very nice lady. And, like any travel agency, she will not charge you anything, but lives on the comissions she gets from hotels, airlines etc.

For a decent apartment in Bs.As., you will pay something between U$S 30,- to 60,- per night, with usaully 3 days to a week minimum stay.

The south atlantic is rather cold, and I would not expect much swimming fun in November.

I hope that helps,

El Alemán

Roxanne

02-04-04, 13:18

Hi, Guys:

I'm not on vacation but for a reason I can't understand, I'm receiving some emails back with faillures in the delivery.

So, Jakpot, if you emailed me, for sure I sent you an email back, but maybe you didn't receive it, and for sure in that email I recommended you to contact Mayra for an apartment, because she is in charge of accommodations; I'm not.

So, you can email her at: mayra@argentinago.com and she will be glad to help you.

Kisses, Roxana.

The Pirate

02-04-04, 14:09

BA Round 3

I went back to 1707 this afternoon to see what was available. The selection process worked much better for me this time (see previous post). I opted for a dark haired beauty with a killer body (Paula). I decided to go for the half hour and add the "goodies" to the menu. So I ended up spending 90 Pesos for the following: half hour, BBJ, Multiple positions, but decided against anal. Great session, she was very energetic and willing to please. After we finished up I headed off to the hotel to change and to do some shopping. You can find a wide variety of items in BA at a substantial discount to the US.

For my night action:

I met up with Andres and we headed off to Dolly's and Envida. Dolly's had a 10 peso admission that included a drink. The club had a decent set up, the girls ranged anywhere from a 5 to a 7. We chatted with about 4 of them before heading off to Envida. We walk into Envida and I think to myself "now this is nice". 20-25 women were lining the bar dressed in the skimpiest of outfits. We sit down and grab a few drinks. I immediately see about 3 chicas that I think are possibilities. The selection in Envida was great. It was diverse (height, nationality, etc etc) and the girls seemed to have great attitudes. I opted for a chica with a killer ass ( the sight of her ass is still dancing in my head). I check with Andres and tell him that I am going to take this chica to the hotel (next door). We head off and decided on half an hour for 50 Pesos. But when I see her nude body I immediately tell her that I want a full hour for 100 (yes, it was that nice). Great Session!! 2 pops, CBJ, every position you can think of (well, leaving it to some of you that may be too many ha!), and some great convo. I will be back to see her soon.

Andres - Thanks for the laughs and the company! You are a great person!

Stay Safe,

The Pirate

Exon123

02-04-04, 15:31

Bodhi --- Im terriably sorry but Carolina's contact information will not be disclosed --- She is my especial private reserve and there will be no shareing of Carolina, period end of story --- Sorry --- As for the Brazilian you mention from Cafe Orlean's, (the best fuck in the whole world), again Im sorry --- And yes I offered her up to my dear friend Mickey Mouse as a gift, reward so to speak for his valiant effort in screwing Angela so she would have her rent money --- Matter of fact my personal check for $100 USD was in the mail to Mickey to remburse him even before the act was complete --- There must be honor among Mongers and I simply can't have brother Mongers flying in from all over the world screwing my women --- I don't mean to be disrespectful but I have thousands of dollars invested in resurch in discovering thease precious women and I don't intend to share --- And moreover Im in Love with each of them, specially Carolina --- Matter o fact got an e-mail from her today, shes taking me to Mar de Plata next month --- Bodhi, again I mean no disrespect but reading between the lines it sounds like this is your first trip to Buenos Aires --- If so trust me all you have to do is walk in Madaho's or any other club for that matter and you will not be able to make up your mind, its that good ---- Again my apology --- Exon

OttoGraham

02-04-04, 15:45

Andres - Did you get The Pirate to eat some criadillas and rinones? No trip to Argentina is complete without them!

Exon - You are too funny! :D

Pirate - Keep up the good posts and read my question to Andres - if he didn't make sure you indulged, you need to go to 1880 to try.........

-Uncle Otto

Exon123

02-04-04, 15:45

P.S. Bodhi --- You might PM Dickhead if your on a budget this trip as he is the undisputed expert on the economical ways of doing Buenos Aires --- Again no disrespect --- Exon

Mickey Mouse

02-04-04, 19:20

Exon, Bodhi & others,

You're right, the check was at my home before I took care of Angela for you. I thank you for your trust and just so you know, I will not divulge any those numbers either. BTW, Roberta is definitely "Gorgeous" & one of the "Best"! If anyone would like someone almost as good, call Roxana about Natalya (she may be away this month) - Everready can't compete with this girl.
I never did get in touch with Fabiana or Carolina, but March is not far away and I can be persistent.

Exon - if you want some more info about MDP, let me know. I think it's perfect for you & Carolina.

Pirate - I'm glad you chose BA and I appreciate your sacrifices in caring for the ladies during my absence. Keep up the good work!

March is looking awfully good,
MM

Jaimito Cartero

02-04-04, 20:14

Bodhi,

Well, Exon gave the details of where he met some of his cuties in past reports. I guess if you wanted to see if they're really taken, you could hang around and look for them. :)

I think everyone gets a little protective about their great finds, but we should all share a little bit (if they're working, of course).

Bodhi

02-04-04, 20:32

Exon, I have been to BA before: if the girl you hide is still working she could still tentatively be found; if one is so motivated: there was a recommended chica, a brazilian (sorry jackson, this locutorio does not allow much for punctuation and correct spacing) on one of the websites, one will need to seek her out.

Finally I plan to hit on non pros in the Unicentro as jakster once posted (about getting free pussy along with his buddy there). does anybody have any input experience about the locale, etc.?

Looking forward to be in BA this Friday,

ciao

Havanaman

02-04-04, 22:04

Bodhi,

If you have sufficient time between now and your trip, or indeed for trips in the future, you might like to think about the e-pal method I have very successfully used (see early January posts by me on Havana board and here). Straight-cash free all the way (you pay for the meal etc…). Good luck.

Regards, Havanaman

Havanaman

02-04-04, 22:07

Bodhi,

Wow, sorry, I didn’t read your last line: your in BA this Friday! The e-pal method might help with non-pro chicas on your next trip!

Regards, Havanaman

Lukasek

02-04-04, 22:25

Ciao all Guys,

Why here a lot of reports about prof and a little or noone report about sex,or also only a appointment with regular woman?

It is so hard with regular normal women in Argentina, or is too easy to pay,to try with non-prof women?

I am interested in your answers, because I want to come to Argentina for the first time.

I have noproblem to pay, if I dont find,but i surely will feel more happy if I can have with non prof woman, am I alone in this feeling?

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Starfe

02-04-04, 23:19

Martha Stewart and her connection to MONGERING:

Bacanovic, according Faneuil, never directly asked him to lie, but did give him a raise, extra vacation time, and even offered him a round-trip ticket to Argentina. (+ 15 sessions )

Starfe

P.S.: Faneuil posts under the alias Nibu

Cerveza Mas

02-05-04, 00:58

Hola All!

I am flying south tomorrow out of the land of predictably complicated women and will be in BA Friday morning. First time to BA and I hope to meet some of you, and I will do my civic duty to post trip reports. So in the words to one of my fav movies.

I find I'm so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it the excitement only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border.

Cerveza Mas

MiddleAgeGuy

02-05-04, 12:58

Cervesa Mas,
A small plata of observation, you may also be entering a land of predictably complicated women... let me correct that, you are entering such a land. The difference is how you handle it. I just returned from another trip and I will post any helpful info. I can.

Drgn,
What happened to 'out of the game'? Couldn't keep away? I enjoy your posts which have a ring of familiarity to my own thought process. I have made a mistake of wanting to get more familiar, crossing some kind of boundary, then, knowing it cannot work, trying to extracate my body and mind.
I will reenter the game in a different way next time.
MAG

OttoGraham

02-05-04, 13:04

Originally posted by Cerveza Mas

Hola All!

I am flying south tomorrow out of the land of predictably complicated women and will be in BA Friday morning. First time to BA and I hope to meet some of you, and I will do my civic duty to post trip reports. So in the words to one of my fav movies.

I find I'm so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it the excitement only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border.

Cerveza Mas

First off, nice handle! Quite appropriate. But don't drink too much in the clubs, that's my bit of unsolicited advice for you.

Secondly, DO POST your experiences, thoughts, impressions on the board. Even if you think it's been covered before, you should post it, because newbie experiences can give us all a much-needed reality check from time to time.

Enjoy your trip, and take advantage of the information resources you have on this board!

-Uncle Otto

Thomaso276

02-05-04, 20:55

Tuesday night I went to the Boliche on Las Heras; 2455 I think. It has no name but there is a black canvas overhang and you walk downstairs after entering. It is just past Purreydon. One report on the board said it was busy early (before midnight) with young attractive girls. Well, I arrived about 11:30 pm. No entry fee and I was the only guy in the bar. Dark, not very clean and about 7-8 women. Stayed for one warm beer - 15 pesos- and spoke with the bartender for awhile. She was pleasant enough. The women were average, no fatties, certainly not young. I did not take the time to ask about prices or service because I did not see anything that interested me. I did the centro, Recoletta route for the rest of the night. After being here for the first month of the summer I can tell that many of the girls are on vacation. The clubs seem to have the same girls no matter what night it is. Some of my favoritas have told me they plan on vacations in Feb. and they can work while they play - whether in Mar del Plata or Punte Este in Urugauy. I guess in the long run it really is a sellers market, no matter what we think! It is my impression that the girls are trying to get a higher price because it is slow. Although there are less customers, there are less providers as well. Where I come from you have a SALE during the slow season so I am holding to that economic model. Anyone else notice an attempted change in the pricing structure?

The Pirate

02-05-04, 21:44

BA Round 4

Prior to my arrival in BA I had picked out my number one prospect for a night of fun. After 3 days of trying I finally got my chance for an appointment with her today. I was very excited to see this "gem" of a woman and eagerly awaited her arrival. Her web photos left little to the imagination - I would rate her a 9 (using the pictures). So, the appointment is set and I am "ready for action".

She knocks on the door and I jump up to answer. I look through the peep hole (limited view) and its her. When I open to door I almost can not believe my eyes!!!! I think to myself this is not the girl in the picture, but as I look closer, it is!!! The "9" that I saw in the pictures looked to be about a 4 in person!!Perhaps I caught her on a bad day? Perhaps she just rolled out of bed (after having the flu)? I am not sure, but I was disappointed to say the least. I maintain my composure and invite her in and we chat for a bit. I am really looking to the structure of her face about now and I am 100% sure it is indeed to girl from the pictures. But what happened? As we are talking I am mentally crying my eyes out in disbelief. How could this be? She leans in for a kiss and I notice that she has a moderate smell of smoke (cigarettes) all about her person. Houston, we have a SERIOUS problem.

So what do I do? I go ahead with the session. But I just could not get into it. I settled for a CBJ and a massage. As I am typing this I am still in a state of shock. I still do not know what the heck happened with this whole situation. I plan to make this up to myself. I shall hit this town with a feverish frenzy of carnal fun that will erase any memory of todays actions from my head (well, I´m hoping it will).

More to Follow.

Stay Safe,

The Pirate

PS - Who else is in town right now?

Dancesw/Chicas

02-06-04, 05:37

Cerveza mas,
We are looking forward to hear about your trip. I also need
go to down there soon! I am becoming "institutionalized" here
in the US. You know how it is "get busy living (in BA) or get
busy dying(in USA).That's god-damn right"!
DWC

Brandon Lee

02-06-04, 07:58

Hello guys

I'm kinda new to the BA area, are the prices listed on www.escorts-argentina.com in dollars or pesos?

Thanks

BL

Chuponalgas

02-06-04, 11:52

Brazil or Argentina? Hmmm, easy decision. DO BOTH!
Go to www.varig.com, click AMERICAS, USA, INTERNET FARES, and BUENOS AIRES, and you can get a triangle fare from NY, LA or MIAMI to BA with a free stopover in RIO or SP, for about the same price most people pay for one or the other. Great airline, safe, clean, on time, in general.

I have been both places many times and frankly it's a tossup, unless you like black and mixed race girls, in which case you must go to Rio. Argentina is very caucasian. Brazilians are also more open-minded if you are looking for something kinky.

MiddleAgeGuy

02-06-04, 13:00

Latest trip.
Well, I have a few observations about my last trip to the 'other' Down Under.
BA Solid Gold: Only hit 1 club for a look-see. I had never been to Solid Gold before. We went last Thursday. Door guys said 20 or 25P, one drink each. My buddy said they gave him 2 drinks last time, so they gave us 2 drink tickets each, no questions asked. My general observation is that there were plenty of girls, (50+), almost all young in the 18-23 age group, if you like that. I prefere the mix of ages at Madahos. The seating arrangement is a little strange with these line ups of rows of little couches all facing the stage. Again, Madaho's seating/standing arrangement better. One tall morocha came up to me, sat down, talked. The accent was different but said she was from BA but mother was Paraguaya. Apparently, many of the girls gravitated here from Playwoman after its December demise. The drink police lady came up, seeing if I wanted to buy her a drink and I did a little wave off, which she graciously understood.
I eyed a little cutie to come over later just for a drink and a little conversation, (30P drink). Wednesday was a late nighter and Friday was set up for an all nighter at a dance place, but I almost succumbed to Thursday's delight. The floor shows are OK, some silicone, others not. This tall black girl doing some kind of dominatrix number, seeing me the Gringo in the seats 1 row back, decided to fake an orgasam riding yours truly for a few minutes. She was so tall, that I was a bit scared she might be a he, which had the effect of reducing my libido. Do not forget to check the upstairs if you go as there are more girls up there as the night goes on.
Next report, Tucuman and other locals.
MAG

Cerveza Mas

02-06-04, 22:47

Hola All!

Day 0

Gonna call this day 0 because I just got into BA and as a rodeo friend of mine said, the clock don't start tickin' until boots start kickin'

Flew from DFW and a suggestion: reserve a seat towards the rear and you're more likely to get enough room to stretch out during the long flight. I didn't follow this advice and was squeezed in between the window and someone that keep falling asleep into me.

The airport seems small, but that's just the international arrival area. I went through entry checks easily, but you should allow at least a half hour to fourty five minutes to get from plane to taxi with converted currency.

The first sight that told me I would like this ciudad is as you come down the escalator to the entry check area, look to your right at the stunner in the short red skirt that is selling perfume, and think: This ain't Kansas anymore.

I picked up a good city map from the magazine vendor near the remis stands for about $7 (all prices AR pesos unless noted otherwise). You can also get some free maps from a kiosk near the Recoleta if you go on a tour with Roxana.

Once I got the taxi for $38--a good suggestions for those that are espanol deficient is to have the address written down and show the taxi stand/driver, and got to the city (this was about a 40 minute drive), found the place easily and settled in. You'll need a phone card in order to call cell phones (like for Roxana) and these are available at corner markets in $5, $10, $20, etc. amounts.

The phone cards are easy to use, dial the number on the front of the card, wait for the response, dial the passcode on the back (on mine it was under some rub off), and then dial the phone number you want. Ring tone here is almost like busy tone in the states.

Roxana is very highly recommended by this gringo. Had a nice tour of the city with good insight into local activities and history. It may help you and her if you provide specific requests: I want to see the leather factory, I want to see the place where the British and the Argentines invaded, etc.

Next up for me is dinner and Madahos. Tomorrow is grocery shopping and one of the weekend markets. Hope to see some of you there, I'll be the wide eyed gringo with the perma-grin.

I would like to get together Saturday night about 9:00 probably at the restaurant row near the cemetary. Don't know if you can use PM to hit me with a message, but give it a shot.

Cerveza Mas

JamesBond69

02-07-04, 15:52

Greetings from Sex Prison (aka USA)

Just got back from Buenos Aires to serve the remainder of my sentence here in the massive Sex prison facility in New York City.

But I'm not a lifer and will get out shortly. In the meantime I'm selling what is left of my condom collection and collecting my thoughts for the forum.

I will be posting on the following topics in the next few days:

Boliche Business Models
Uncle Otto's Failed Coup
In Praise of Libia
Off the Monger Tourist Track; A Night with Andres
Ahoy Hooks
Recoleta Affaire to Remember
Newport News
Banned from Blacks

Stay tuned.......

Marcos

02-07-04, 19:02

Someone was saying few posts back that Santa Fe 1707 can be hit or miss. Actually, I think, the place is quite consistent in having fine girls, and altough they change quite often, after you have been there at a certain time, you pretty much know what to expect another day. The girls works in shifts so make sure you check out both at day and nighttime. If you can remember at least some of the types and names, you can call ahead and ask the hostess if there are new girls since your last visit. Now for the factual part of all this, I was there yesterday and arrived just after four guys that where in for a party, so I had to wait what seemed a long time and then be presented just one single girl, Gabi. Now, she´s _really_ pretty, model face, long blond hair, great body with perfect natural breast. And very young.
Maybe I'm not normal but this is not the package that turns me on wildly, but who am I to say no to the opportunity to do this treat at a starting price of 60 ars, and indulged. Sex was not to remember as she is quite controlled, but otherwhise very pleasant to be with.
If the above works for you, go in the evening hours. I reiterate, she's this top-beauty type of girl that a certain kind of monger talk would ideally locate in Black. Reality is that such a girl, IF found in Black, would ask 10 (yes ten) times as much.

Bits and Odds to conclude. This girl that I knew recently, M, is in a kind of urban vacation and not really game, but if you like to get to know a spontaneous hot brunette, 100% porteña type, write me to get the contact. She's a lot like Victoria Onetto, check her out on the net if you don't know who the heck I'm talking about.
Do the same if you're interested in N, my brazilian friend, good body with silicon breast and OK face (but hey, nothing ugly). Simply said, she is very good in bed. Thinking better, I must say very very good.

Speculator

02-07-04, 20:30

It is high time that I begin to make my contributions to this forum. I am currently enjoying my second visit to this wonderful city. My first trip was a fantastic time in which I had the pleasure of meeting Jackson, and some other fellow members, but sadly I did not post any of my experiences. That ends now. I plan to post regularly now that I am here so that the information is current. I want to begin by first thanking the significant contributors of information to this forum for taking the time out to post and to help others through your experiences. You know who you are, thankyou, it has enhanced my time here considerably.
I came in to town Thursday in the early afternoon and after getting situated at my place, I figured that I would go and hit Sante Fe 1707, which has been getting some pretty good reviews lately. I didn´t get buzzed up to the third floor, I was able to go directly to the door in which Sylvia awnsered and invited me in. It was quite nice. She led me to a nice room and she offered me a drink and then said she would send in the chicas one at a time so that I could pick the one I liked. I had read in a recent OttoGraham post, that he was just here and she brought in one stunner after another so I was very interested to see this. Well, that is exactly what happened. One chica after another, all very nice. In fact I said "damn" after seeing number 2. Off we go to another room. Prices, 100ar for 1 hour. 80ar for 45 minutes and 60ar for 30 minutes. I chose the latter, figuring should I want or need more time I could always upgrade. Turns out the 30 minutes was fine for me this time and off I went. A decent session, nothing great but not bad either, with a very pretty girl. I was pleased. I then proceeded to go for a little walk to the Parrilla next to Newports, to do what any self respecting monger would do after his first session and carve up a big steak to celebrate my arrival in BA. Awesome, Beef De Lomo, a proveleta, a couple of empanadas, all for a whopping 35 pesos. Unreal. I continued on my walk after lunch and picked up a nice cuban cigar along the way. It was a glorious day in BA and there were beautiful girls everywhere I looked. I happened upon a shoe shine stand. I looked down at my feet and yes it was time for a shine. So I sat there, back on bustling Sante Fe, smoking my cigar, getting my shoes shined, after a beautiful lunch and a session, and took it all in, while I contemplated my next 2 weeks in BA.

Speculator

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Chuponalgas

02-07-04, 21:08

TWINS: There was a thread on here last year about the mythical identical twins in B.A. Well I found some REAL ones in RIO, and posted the pix in the Brazil Photo section.

MoonDog

02-07-04, 21:33

James Bond 69,

"Banned from Black?" This is one I really want to hear.

Looking forward to your installments.

Moondog

MoonDog

02-07-04, 21:34

Speculator,

Sounds like a great beginning. Looking forward to further reports.

Moondog

Marcos

02-08-04, 00:58

Playwoman reopened two days ago in Bulnes 2772. Agenda item for all mongers in town, at least for the curiosity.

MoonDog

02-08-04, 06:32

Stoly,

Where is the new one in relation to the previous location?

Moondog

Rubiks Cube

02-08-04, 06:59

Can anyone tell me where the list of Argentina internet girls can be found? It now appears that Argentinaprivate.com is down. I am also looking for the list of clubs. Countdown for me is now 20 days until my return to the wonderous city. Anyone going to be there the first week of March who wants to hit the clubs for a night please let me know.

Hi,

Argentina Private is not down. You can access it at http://argentinaprivate.com, without the "www".

In addition, there is an extensive list of internet sites in the Argentina section of the Forum, listed cryptically as "List - Escort Websites".

Thanks,

Jackson

MeGustaBoliches

02-08-04, 13:47

The new Playwomen for You opened Thursday night in its new location on Bulnes y Libertador. This location is in Palermo Chico, about a dollar cab ride from the old location.

I visited on a Saturday night with a group of WSG´rs.........we outnumbered the chicas, and we were the only guys in the place....two reasons for the lack of action....the place just opened, and not many guys know about it yet....and, it was Saturday night, not a prime time for boliches.

The place has potential....great location, in one of the most upscale parts of buenos Aires. Much nicer location and facility than the old location..

I would give it another shot on a different night of the week....it might be ok.......but it is off to a slow start...

Andres

02-08-04, 14:50

The place in Bulnes and Libertador used to host one of the most famous boliches in BA during the mid 90s: Tramps. This was, perhaps, the most upscale boliche in BA along with Blacks, and where girls could charge $200 short term during the 1-1 currency peg.

It seems that Playwoman now opens a bit away from Recoleta to avoid competence.

Is there some info about prices, such as entrance fee, chica's drinks prices and minimum drinks to check them away? Also, some chicas' prices would be helpful.

Andres

Jaimito Cartero

02-08-04, 14:55

Andres - I'm sure you mean that Playwoman moved to have less competition. Your english is still 20 times better than my spanish!

MoonDog

02-08-04, 15:05

MeGustaBoliches and Andres,

Thanks for the info.

Moondog

ChicagoBoy23

02-08-04, 22:52

Question: I was talking to a girl and she mentioned she lives in a small apartment with three other working girls. Is this a common situation?

I thought these girls made megabucks relative to the cost of living in Buenos Aires.

If a girl works most nights at Madaho's do they get customers every night ?

MoonDog

02-09-04, 00:09

I need directions to the new Playwoman For You club. Can't find Bulnes or Libertador on the map.

Thanks,

Moondog

Nickster53

02-09-04, 00:18

I owe the forum a report on my quick trip to BA in December. It was a very short stop in BA returning to the U.S. I was also in Sao Paulo on this trip and I will post my adventures there later in the week.

I posted a request for information about Axia from Area VIP. Not receiving any response, I contacted Roxana to set up a meeting.

The meeting was pretty interesting. She really hit my hot button on the web site (she is also on some of the other sites under different names). When she got to the door she said "I know you" it turns out she was Zoie from the private apartment on Larreas (?sp) that I saw on a trip in October. I was amazed that she remembered me.

She was more money than the apartment, but I really enjoyed her much more. She charged $AP300 for for a no-rushed 3 hour session. This was high I know, but what can I say, I was in lust.

Now about her; small girl about 5'2" 100 - 110 lbs. Nice ass probably about a A or B cup (saggy). Tight body though. She speaks excellent english and is pretty active in bed.

She was a lot of fun to be with and I would see her again.

If you need any other details, please PM me.

N

Andres

02-09-04, 01:04

ChicagoBoy:

They don't usually do megabucks. A few ones amass huge sums, but are the few. Others have family, kids, pimps, superfluous expenditures, whatever. Not all of them have good nights consistently.

MoonDog:

The place is located in the Palermo Chico area, the embassies district. From Recoleta, ask a cab to take Las Heras Ave until Bulnes and then turn right until Libertador. If you want to see the exact location, see www.cybermapas.com and search it there.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Dancesw/Chicas

02-09-04, 01:20

ChicagoBoy,

Good questions.

I sometimes think that most of the girls come from poor families and when they start making money this way (an average salary in just one day) they just don't know how to manage their money.

I once hanged out with a girl from Esmeralda 9something and the first thing she'd do after work is to go and buy clothes and things and she probably wasn't able in the past. There are also times when they stop working for an entire month, thus burning all their money.

About the second question...I KNOW for a fact, having been from 10 to 4 - 4:30 at places like Madaho's and Blacks that at least 10-15 percent of the girls don't get any clients on a good night and I would say 50 percent don't make a sale on a slow night. Most Argentine guys are just looking in my own opinion.

I don't know if the more BA "conoscenti" would agree with my percentages, but that's my sincere estimate.

DWC

DWC,

Actually, I sat in Madahos on a Tuesday night a couple of months ago from midnight intil 5:00am, and I counted 18 girls out of a total of 76 that went home without having snagged a single customer the entire evening. That's approximately 24%.

Of course, the girls do make some money off the drinks, and towards the end of the evening I sat near the cashier and observed them as they cashed in their drink tickets. The average take was 30-50 pesos each, which is still more than they would earn working at a retail or food service job, assuming that they could find one.

I think it's important to be aware of these numbers as you are conducting your negoiations.

Jackson

HobbyInHouston

02-09-04, 01:57

Hola All,

I will be returning to BA on the 12th of Feb to at least the 20th, I was just wondering who would be in town. I have also posted a question in the hotel section. Does anyone have more up to date info on the Hotel Ulises recoleta. Is it modern, guest friendly, ect. Is there better value for a similar hotel in that area. Mayre is getting me the penthouse for U.S.$114 per day. She did a great job for me tha last time I went there, I would recomend her to anyone.

Also, what is the best way to get a cell phone for a week or so. The last time I stayed at the etoile, a cell phone came with the room, it was an additional charge. I can't remember how much. It was definitly worth it it saved time and headhache.

Thanks

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to capitalize the word "I". To avoid future delays, please use a capital "I" to refer to yourself in future reports. Thanks!

MoonDog

02-09-04, 02:17

Andres,

Thanks.

Speculator

02-09-04, 14:11

Stoly, Good looking out on Gabi.
Armed with timely information and being within striking distance, I opportunistically headed over to Sante Fe to see for myself. When I arrived there I came to find out she was not there yet. They brought in 3 chicas one at a time, and the first one was very hot, the other 2 were definitely not hot. I asked for Gabi before making a selection and was informed that she should have been there but wasn´t and they offered to call her or I could wait 15 minutes. I was already running late to a dinner so I went for number 1, which was one of the finer decisions I´ve made. World class BBBJ, IMO. I had arranged for a 30 minute session for 60ar, and then had to pay an additional 20ar for the enhancement of BBBJ. I´d have paid considerably more after that performance, but I´m glad I did not have to. I am looking forward to seeing her again. Upon my leaving I was informed that Gabi had arrived and I said I would like to meet her. They brought her in and your right, a very very hot girl. Not what I expected, the imagination is powerful, but I could definitely see her working at Blacks. Many many guys would definitely dig this girl. I´m sure I´ll partake at some point.

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MeGustaBoliches

02-09-04, 15:14

pLAYWOMEN...NEW LOCATION....Andres, the drink prices are 20 pesos for hombres. We paid for one drink on admission....since the place was dead, we did not hang out long enough to gather all the other info....Maybe I will try again tomorrow night and let you know...

Speculator

02-09-04, 15:56

Ok, I´m probably better off posting the most current happenings than trying to post chronologically since my arrival. If I can catch up I will. Jackson and myself were having dinner at Parrillon, many of you know it well, and it is over this dinner that we decide that based on a recent OttoGraham post regarding Blacks we should go check it out. OttoGraham reported that the prices were way down and quantity was way up. Thanks Otto, your posts are excellent. We arrived and paid no cover, I couldn´t say why at this point. Because It was Jackson and me, or there was no cover, I don´t know. Subsequently I have been back twice and still have not paid a cover, and last night I thought I witnessed 4 guys being charged. I´m going to have to find out or somebody could post the info if they know it. Well anyway, one of the things I love about Blacks is the fact that the girls don´t come over to you unless you ask them to. Instead, they dance around you and vie for your attention. Don´t get me wrong, I also love the clubs where the chicas do and can come right up to you and talk and play, but Blacks is unique in this sense. I like to simply chat with my friends while hanging out at the bar while these hot girls are working to get my attention. So there we are and in within a couple of minutes 4 of the hottest girls you can imagine are dancing right in row, trying to make eye contact and flirting. We move to a different spot for convenience, and they manage to stay within our area still dancing and flirting. The place was full of chicas, but these 4 in particular I was looking at, were incredible. I remember looking over at them and saying to myself this is just amazing. These chicks individually were just some of the hottest girls around, one hotter than the next. Anyway, I call one over using my best determination, as to the chica I think is the hottest. Turns out she is Columbian and I love Columbiana´s. I ask her how much it costs for her to leave with me and she hits me with $150us for 1 ½ hours. I think to myself, not bad. I was bracing for a much higher start. I counter with $100us and she comes down to $120. We finally agree after some petting on $110, which she says that she will accept because she likes me, and I´m beautiful and blah blah blah. Interestingly, this ALL happened before I bought her a drink, which was a no-no here in the past. Traditionally, I believe, that here at Blacks the girls can not even discuss price with you until you have bought them a drink. Our deal is consummated. I tell her that we will leave in 30 minutes and for right now to leave me, so I can hangout with my friends and come back in 30 minutes. She asks for a drink and I tell her no problem but just wait till later. At this point, the only thing that was negotiated was price, not activity. I have not yet clarified the DFK´s and the BBBJ. She goes away and I continue to hang with Jackson and another guy he has just recruited to the movement. I´m going to stop here, post this, and then continue to completion to avoid any potential post length issues.

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Speculator

Speculator

02-09-04, 16:06

Continued from previous post

After a little while, a what can only be described as, and has since been referred to many times in subsequent conversations, "A Brick Shit House” walks by. My jaw hits the floor. I must have her. Even though I have just consummated a deal with one of the hottest girls there, I regret it, that I did not wait a little longer. This girl is endowed with every good curve there is and the maximum allowed of it and without a trace of fat in the wrong spots. She is a little shy and less flirty than many of the other chicas, in fact almost like dis-interested, a hard one to explain. She moves away from where she sat down with some chicas, and after I had said a minor hello to her, and I move closer to the stage where a beautiful entertainer came on. I run into my chica, the one I consummated the deal with already. Damn. We sit down together and I buy her a drink without asking the price. I´m drinking plenty, and I buy her 2 more drinks and myself however many I wanted. It comes time to leave and to get my bill. It was at this point I come to find out, that my chicas drinks are 80 pesos. I´m like, you must be kidding. What I thought was a good value, this gorgeous buxom chica for $110us has now been thrown out the window. I´m referring to only the value of course, the night has been great. I come to find out, there are 2 types of drinks for the chica. A 40 peso and an 80 peso. I own 3 80´s. Now I felt that I´ve been hit over the head a little. I´ll take this opportunity to state that I am a Madahos guy. I love Madahos. Madahos is my favorite place on earth. At Madahos they treat me like I am one of their best friends, a brother, not even a customer. In fact I think “my people” at Madahos look out for my interests. This kind of thing is unthinkable at Madahos for me personally. I don´t feel that way here at Blacks now. I tell the waitress, listen, I´m unhappy with that type of treatment. You tell the manager or the bar or whoever, that I will pay the 3 drinks at 80 pesos no problem, and you will not see me again, or you can do something about and I´ll be a happy returning customer often. They do it. They drop the price of the drinks to 40 pesos. BUT, at this point I find out my bar tab is still 615 pesos. We take a look at it and my drinks, I´m drinking top shelf scotch are 85 pesos. Now, I´m like outraged and miffed. Every other place in town for the same Scotch is not even close. Madahos is 45, Hooks is 50, Cattos 35, Solid Gold 30, I can go on and on. 85 pesos ? Is this a stick up ? I speak to the manager regarding what I perceive to be as a heist and he shows me the Drink menu. There it is in black and white, Glennfiddich 85 pesos. My bad. I apologize and he tells me that he wants to take care of his customers and he knocks two of my drinks off the tab, which I thought was very classy and that act I really appreciated and I told him that. So all in all I have to rate Blacks as a two thumbs up, although it is still the most expensive place in town. So far, I´d have to say in my best estimation and IMHO, that “possibly” the 5 best looking girls at Blacks “may” be better looking than the 5 best looking Madahos chicas but that after that 5 it´s all the same. Obviously, this is almost pure speculation and has many factors involved which are not all being considered at this moment, but that is what I do. I´m a speculator. Regarding my time with the chica, it was a tremendously great time, I wish they were all that good. I forgot to mention that during the time of my re-hooking up with my chica, that I did take the opportunity to clarify BBBJ an DFK and all that stuff. Generally speaking, I do like the chica to pass the affectionate test while we are in the club. I am a fan of the test drive, but sometimes you just can´t tell and you have to take the plunge. I´ve had chicas that were subdued in the club with virtually no display of affection turn into complete tigers. You guys know this. With this particular chica I felt that even though there was not much of a public display of affection, that it was latent, and boy was I right thankfully. Another great night. I can not emphasize enough how important it is to discuss all things expected, at your place, BEFORE leaving the club with the chica. I let my guard down a little and it came back to bite me a little a day later or so, but that is for another post. There is much more posting to be done by me about this wild time I´m enjoying, and thankfully more to share regarding the “Brick Shit House” but that post is in the oven, so to speak. Until next time, adios amigos.

Speculator

Top Cat

02-09-04, 18:21

Gentlemen,

I've been lurking here for a few weeks now and have found your reports interesting and informative, so first of all, thanks.

I would now like to ask you if you would be so kind as to draw on your knowledge and experience to help me take advantage of a small window of mongering opportunity I have coming up.

The situation is this - I have a short stopover in Bs As on my way to another part of the country. I speak fluent Argentinian Spanish and know Buenos Aires reasonably well, but not in mongering capacity.

My window of opportunity is from about 9am till 5pm, unfortunately on a Sunday. I'd been hoping to pay a visit to the much recommended Santa Fe 1707, but from what I've read it appears that this is closed on Sundays. Does anyone if this is definitely correct? If so, does anyone know of a privado of similar quality that will be open?

I'm also quite keen on hanging out in some bars or boliches, but of course my timetable makes this difficult. I think I remember reading that someone watched the superbowl in Affaire - does this mean it is open Sunday daytimes? What about confiterias like Exedra and Orleans, is there anything going on there on the sabbath?

My last resort I think will be an encuentro with an Internet girl, can anyone recommend a good telo in the microcentro area, I seem to remember there being on somewhere on Tres Sargentos?

Apologies for the barrage of questions and thanks in advance for any help, I promise full reports on my activities (if any!)

Buenos vientos, piratas

Top Cat

Dancesw/Chicas

02-09-04, 20:39

Spectacular,

Great way to post amigo!

I am curious, what is the name of #1 girl you selected at 1707?

I also know this Gabi, she used to have braces a few months back and I knew she'll look so fine once they were gone.

The thing with Gabi is that she did not provide BBBJ. I tried tipping but she said that was her rule. Still she is very hot.

DWC

TheWad

02-10-04, 13:40

Okay, I was in BA about a month ago and did not have a great experience. Got to St. Fe 1707 and it was closed, tried to find Orleans, no luck, and then since I was there with friends I wasn't able to really check out the scene.

Last week was different, and I don't know how it's possible not to find sex in this city if you're looking.

I started with Orleans, and yet again, could not find the place. I'm walking around and around, asking people, asking cops, no one knows where it is. I'm finally about to give up, ask for a final time, and the guy doesn't know. I turn to go back home and see the sign on the window "Orleans". I'd walked by it 20 times was standing in front of it twice when I asked people where it was, but I just didn't see it. There are no big signs advertisiing it, it is just written on the windows and it's right on the corner.

Had a nice lomito and beer and watched the action. Some nice lookers, but didn't like the scence as it didin't seem easy to approach as everyone is at their own table. This was about 3 or 4 pm on a Friday. So didn't take anyone home.

My next experience was at Envida at Rivadavia and Argerich. $9 peso cab fare from center. $10 to get in with one drink. $5 after that and $15 for a girls drink.

About 10 girls stading around playing pool and 3 guys this is around midnight on Sunday night. One girl, Macarena (good strong body very capable on the dance pole) says Fri and Sat much more happening. Then I spot a stunner who seems quite shy and can't get my eyes off her. I watch her for about 1.5 hours and some other guy has his eye on her as well. She strikes me as new as she's too shy. I think the bartender tells her to come over and see me after the other guy tried to grab her arm on her way to the bathroom and she blew him off.

She was from Chile about 5'4 only 18, long hair, voluptous breasts and was wearing the most concertative clothing there. Spoke with her for about half an hour and fell in love. She had been there 3 weeks and didn't like working there but needed the money. I asked if she's be willing to go to the provided rooms and she agrees. $40 or 20 min, $50 for 30 min and I forget how much for an hour.

She was shy down in the club but in bed she was great. Great BBBJ and wonderful lay.
I can't stop thinking about her. Was supposed to meet her the next day outside of the club at 1 pm but was late didn't get there till 1:20pm and she wasn't there. Don't know if she was a no show or gave up on me. Anyway, I had to fly out Monday night so didn't get a chance to see her again. I'm now trying to figure out how to get back down to BA. I could spend the whole month there now that I understand how the scence works.

Thanks to everyone for the great posts on this site.

Andres

02-10-04, 15:54

Top Cat:

No much to do on Sunday afternoon. Perhaps contacting an Internet girl the day before would be the best option.

The 3 Sargentos hotel is OK, but more expensive (ar$40 vs ar$25-30) that others located somewhat close. Try Pinos at Independencia and Virrey Zevallos. Clean and affordable.

Hoep this helps.

Andres

HappyGoLucky

02-10-04, 17:06

TheWad,

"Some nice lookers, but didn't like the scence as it didin't seem easy to approach as everyone is at their own table. This was about 3 or 4 pm on a Friday. So didn't take anyone home."

I felt the same way the first time. On my second visit, I asked the waiter to send a drink over to a beautiful young lady sitting by herself and refusing to make eye contact with anyone. The waiter asked her what she wanted to drink (all the way across the room) and within 30 seconds she was sitting at my table chatting away. As I am a bilingually challenged gringo, it was amusing to say the least but had a very HAPPY ending. Try this the next time you're there. I figured if the girl wanted to pass, she wouldn't come over. I later discovered that "normal" Argentine women are taught by their mothers not to approach men, and some of these gals had pretty standard lifestyles growing up.

BA is Disneyland....

Top Cat

02-10-04, 18:43

Thanks Andres,

I am working on my shortlist right now.

By the way, I see that Revista TXT has on its front cover "Buenos Aires has become a Mecca for sex tourists." I cannot see the article because I'm not in the country yet, but maybe it will be a good read for those of you whose Spanish is up to it.

Jackson

02-10-04, 21:06

The Wad,

I started with Orleans, and yet again, could not find the place. I'm walking around and around, asking people, asking cops, no one knows where it is. I'm finally about to give up, ask for a final time, and the guy doesn't know. I turn to go back home and see the sign on the window "Orleans". I'd walked by it 20 times was standing in front of it twice when I asked people where it was, but I just didn't see it. There are no big signs advertisiing it, it is just written on the windows and it's right on the corner.If you had referred to the list of Cafes and Coffee Shops in the Forum, you would have easily known that Cafe Orleans is on the corner of Cordoba and San Martin.

The list of Cafes and Coffee Shops is in Argentina section of the Forum, listed under the cryptic heading "List - Cafes and Coffee Shops".

Thanks,

Jackson

Marcos

02-10-04, 21:17

I was emailing a friend on the eternal subject of fees (in this case, indipendent ones, but applies to any girl that you can contact directly), and found that my advice is generic and content-free enough to be put here :)
Jokes apart, it comes straight from experience and of course, some mistakes. I have to say, it works great for me now.

One doubt was about what to pay for time spent outside the bedroom. The point is that you don't pay, at least not in the form of a time-based formula. It is not the style in BsAs and I would never reccomend a girl that charges for that.
So my suggestion for a short time, propose a low but still reasonable amount and don't put a precise time limit, only 'until satisfaction', make sure to communicate that you don't mean many hours or TLN in this case. Under this deal, I never met a girl that didn't accomodate another pop if I wanted, on the other hand it works well to let go with minimal damage the ones that lacks chemistry, will, or talent. Tip is then optional, but I know that most of 'us' will be happy to give.
For TLN or longer time, that usually comes after you've sampled the short time already, just pay according to the experience.
Putting figures on top of all that, I think that a good girl deserves a minimum of 100p for ST and 200 LT.

Many indipendent girls are not like the ones that works in clubs or apartments, that have to report and time sheet all their services. If they haven't other appointments, and like your company, they'll be happy to hang out with you and spend time doing whatever you like. Of course all the transportation and meals will be on you, and at the end they will be happy with some gifts that often is welcomed more that cold cash.

Kapalika

02-11-04, 02:03

Election News:

I take it all back - you guys living stateside BA are in paradise. Imagine, a semi well lit club playing the coolest music. Then imagine the most incredible woman looks at you and your both in Love. Which club in the world am I in, I ask my self?

Jackson, I realise that this post, perhaps, belongs in another section. But this is the thread that most all the legends come to from time to time, Buenos Aires - 2004 reports section. And I suspect that of those people, some have been to at least half of the Clubs in my own list of top 10 clubs in the world. Jackson, I trust your integrity in allowing this through on a technicality!

I take it upon as my earnest duty to open this discussion to the wider forum. As a newby - I want to know which are the best clubs in the world. I have only mongered about a dozen times in my life, mainly in Australia and Greece. So I wanna go to the best place in the world - and I find it hard to get this information. Yes, the voting very much dependes on personal bias - but how do you think the MTV top 40 is compliled? So I propose a Top Ten list for debate.

"Let the voting begin" cryed dimocrates. I ask anybody who has been to at least half of all of the following clubs to rank them from 1-10. Here is the list of my Top Ten clubs of the world:

1. Cyclone (Dubai)
2. Nightflight (Moscow)
3. Cafe Photo (Sao Paulo)
4. K5 Relax (Prague)
5. Black (Buenos Aires)
6. River Palace (Kiev)
7. Barbarellas (Rio de Janeiro)
8. Chesterfield (Moscow)
9. Madahos (Buenos Aires)
10. ????? feel free to add something that I missed.

"Gnothis Eafton" or know thyself proclaimed the pillars of Delphi. And I want to know from others how they would chose.

Come on Snowy, Jackson, Tio and others.

Yours Sincerly,

Kapalika

PS My name does not mean "Likes head" but translates to skull carrying holy man

PPS I haven't been to any of the above mentioned clubs. (the wonders of the internet!)

PPPS "One person, One vote" Cryed Mork, from Mork and Mindy, that crazy, cheery, manic, funny character from the long running TV serial of the 1970's.

PPPPS Why not start best clubs in the world thread In the Opinions Section. Where this post really belongs!