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Yo Mongers.
Can anyone UPDATE my on the scene in NORTHERN Argentina??????
what are the possibilities to Travel to paraguay???(Asuncion).Anyone done this before???(bus?? plane??)
I'd like to hear more...PLEASE.
IS there actualy a sex scene in Northeren Argentina. (Pro's and non-pro's).
Are girls intrested in marrying an European guy????
thanks.
Johan.
DonRoberto
04-22-03, 14:20
"Can anyone UPDATE my on the scene in NORTHERN Argentina??????"
I can only tell you that Salta, the main destination in NW Argentina, is an absolutely brilliant and safe place to visit. The problem I had is on the first day I took the Tren a las Nubes (Train to the Clouds), and got a bad case of altitude sickness, including a seizure the next day, that left me disinclined to look for chicas. But my sense was that the lively area around the station for the above train, which really rocks at night, would be a good place to look and probably find something.
Having been to Calafate, Bariloche, and Salta on my trip last month, and seen the most staggering scenery in my life, I urge hobbyists to get out and see this incredibly beautiful country!
Originally posted by DonRoberto
"Can anyone UPDATE my on the scene in NORTHERN Argentina??????"
I can only tell you that Salta, the main destination in NW Argentina, is an absolutely brilliant and safe place to visit. The problem I had is on the first day I took the Tren a las Nubes (Train to the Clouds), and got a bad case of altitude sickness, including a seizure the next day, that left me disinclined to look for chicas. But my sense was that the lively area around the station for the above train, which really rocks at night, would be a good place to look and probably find something.
Having been to Calafate, Bariloche, and Salta on my trip last month, and seen the most staggering scenery in my life, I urge hobbyists to get out and see this incredibly beautiful country! Roberto:
Maybe Salta has a couple of great mongering places, but the region and the city are not prone to the hobbyist, mainly because:
- The NW of Argentina is the most traditional region, where Church and Family has enormous influence and power (perhaps this got enhanced as Buenos Aires got more liberal and cosmopolitan).
- Fewer people live there than in BA (in Spanish we say something like "small town, big hell": Everybody tracks what the neighbor does).
- Most people in these areas have a "Plateau Native Argentinian" look: Short, fat, not very clean, not very pretty. Similar to the Bolivian Plateau people and very different from the Santa Cruz de la Sierra o Paraguayan girls.
I agree with you that the country has countless places to visit. If you return to the NW, visit the Valles Calchaquíes: The valleys that start in Tucumán and end up in Salta. You can make a 2 day trip by car sightseeing the beautiful landscapes of Tucumán in Tafí del Valle (nicknamed "The Republic's Garden") and the Quebrada de Humahuaca (Humahuaca Brook or Cliff).
Don't miss either Ichigualasto, the "Moon Valley" in San Juan (strange rocks carved by the wind for thousands of years and with suprising shapes). It really resembles the Moon.
Hope this helps,
Andres
MiddleAgeGuy
09-18-03, 18:30
As I mentioned previously, Friday night in Salta is the big party night. I got there for 1 Friday last week with the intention of going to a great place near the centre square. Unfortunately, out of respect for the festival of the virgin that was taking place that weekend at the church in the square, alas, no band or dancing.
So off we went to the other area some 8 blocks from the square, sat down at 10:00PM at a place called excetera, I think, 4 others in the joint. By 11:35, the place was packed, (300?), with 90% of them chicas y mujares! True to the waitresses word, a number of these girls were up dancing on the tables, no room for a dance floor. Others dancing between the tables and chairs. We had an early plane to catch, probably the same time activities cease, not to mention a big Saturday date, so left early.
There was a lot of great looking girls there to my surprise but not in the $ game. Lots of looking however and loads of opportunity if you could figure out a discreet way to get them out, in front of all their amigas.
MAG
Yossarian99
07-24-05, 15:29
Been in Salta for about 2 weeks now, and a routine is starting to set in.
Sightseeing by day and mongering by nite. If you have the time, try to get out of the city to see some of the most stunning natural scenery this region has to offer.
At nite, head over to the area just on the south side of the train station in the middle of the city. That's where the clubs are, and in July, it rocks even on the weeknights because of winter holiday. Lots of Portenos up here partying.
Club Zepelin was my favorite and there seemed to be more girls than guys on the weekends. They are not pros, but are relatively easy to score if you are a western tourist.
For those who do not want to bother with having to BS with the normal girls or those who are limmited in their spanish, go straight to the south end of town, all the way to the south end of Cordoba Street as it ends at the Rio Arenales.
This area is a little dodgy, but full of working girls standing at the front doors to their rooms in skimpy clothing. The best way to check this area out is to have your taxi driver take you there. Have him stop whenever you see someone you like and call them out to the car. Have the driver negotiate for you if you don't speak the language.
You will fuck them in their rooms and they will typically charge about US$7 for full service. Pretty cheap. Make sure the taxi waits for you outside, as you don't want to end up having to walk out of the area afterwards. Taxi should cost less than US$10 for everything, including the wait, so don't skimp.
If you chose to pick up a girl on the street corner (rather than one in front of her home) don't take her back to your hotel, even if the hotel is girl-friendly. Have the taxi take you and her to a "reservado", the local term for sex hotel. For an additional measure of safety, don't tell her your real name. There have been talk of young girls bringing the police back to the guys' hotels the next morning and shaking them down for cash for having sex with an alleged minor.
OK, that's it for now. Good luck in Salta.
Yos
Recent article about Salta in the NYTimes online:
http://travel2.nytimes.com/2006/07/02/travel/02next.html
There is a very nice themed sex hotel in Salta called "El Castillo" Suites.
The place even looks like a castle from the outside. My memory is fuzzy, but I think it might be around the outskirts of the town. Just ask a Salteño and they will know about "El Castillo" and probably give a little smirk.
I'm not sure of the exact price, and it was a few years ago, but I believe it was around AR$50 per hour.
Basically you drive in and park your car in front of the themed room you want and walk upstairs.
These rooms are very nice and very clean. The room I was in had a large bed, a television with porn playing, a large bathroom and a large shower with two shower heads and a place to sit down (makes it easier for the chica to suck you off) in the shower.
Some of the different themes are Egyptian, Modern, Greece, China. They have quite a few rooms to choose from and each one is different.
Also, there is a little service door in each room where I think you can get something to drink without seeing the worker and without them seeing you.
I believe there is another sex hotel next to this place, but I had a great time at El Castillo. The price is right and it will certainly impress any chica you bring there.
The young lovers are used to just parking their car on the side of the road up the big mountain at night and taping newspaper to the windows so that no one can see in while they fuck. It's quite a funny sight to see, you should check it out. Just drive up the mountain at night and you'll see a shit-load of newpaper-clad autos.
So, that being said, take your chica to El Castillo and she will be very impressed, I'm sure - it's better than fucking in your car on the mountain ;)
So far as I can remember, Salta is the only place I've visited in Argentina that did not impress me at all. It is like a carbon of copy of a small, rural, sleepy, boring town in the middle of BFE Mexico crawling with little brown Mexican country bumpkins. Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with that, I just don't understand why it merits a visit excluding a few natural spectacles in the province.
Moore is definitely right, but if you are the outdoorsy type, it would definitely warrant a visit.
The road from Salta to Cafayate is full of beautiful mountains. Once you get in Cafayate you can sometimes see flocks of parrots flying through the air. They live up in the rocks.
I saw a lot of caucasian backpackers while I was there and you'll see quite a few Americans and Germans hanging out down that one strip where all the bars are.
One thing to note is the empanadas are the *best* here so far out of all the provinces I've visited.
Moore has a negative attitude about pretty much everything, so it's not surprising he didn't like Salta. I think it's great and could easily live there except for the rainy season in January / February. Excellent food, clean, pretty, lots of history, and 25% less expensive than BA. I recommend it highly.
Today's Sunday New York Times travel section has a big article on Salta.
The travel writer loved it, for whatever that is worth to the mongering community.
Are the providers in Salta mostly Indian or are there ones of European descent as well?
Are the providers in Salta mostly Indian or are there ones of European descent as well?I was only there one night since I was able to change my flight and get out asap. I did not monger but I would guess that the demographics of the whoares there resembles those of the general population. Think Mexico/Aztec.
There are a lot of beautiful women in Salta; I would say you will find more morochas in the North of Argentina in general, but I have actually seen more pure Rubias in Salta than on my trip to Buenos Aires where I saw more Raven-haired women.
If you go outside the city you will find many more Indian-looking people as Moore stated, but in the city it is pretty diverse and there are also A LOT of European tourists, especially Germans.
It's very easy to score with a regular girl in Salta since they are extremely easy to approach.
For instance:
I went to a club one night and as I was wading through the dance floor a girl grabbed my hand and started dancing with me and then we kissed a few times before I continued my way through the crowd again. This same thing happened again with two more girls in the club not 10 minutes later. It seems like people have more fun there in Salta.
Check out Balcarce Street for the club scene where they have clubs / pubs for all ages. Balcarce is flooded with people on the weekend nights; you should try to get into a club before 2:00 am on a Saturday night (or Sunday morning rather) or you may not be able to get in.
A popular club on Balcarce is Club 21.
There is a club on the way to the Airport called Cleopatra's which is supposed to be good.
Also, definitely check out a club called Salon VIP - It is very close to the Bus Terminal in Salta Capital. The girls there like to have fun and you will more than likely go home with one at the end of the night or at least a few phone numbers. - Sunday is the big night for the younger crowd and Friday night tends to be the older crowd.
There is also a red-light district (with genuine red lights!) and women standing out in front of small apartments. This will warrant further investigation by myself or another monger who wishes to take one for the team; however, there is so much free pussy around that this should remain a last resort.
As for Escorts, I've found one website in Salta - Zona Love:
http://www.zonalove.com.ar/
Check out the website for the local paper - El Tribuno - and maybe you can find some ads for acompañantes in the classified section.
http://eltribunosalta.com.ar/
Suerte,
Tin.
Dominicfla
07-22-07, 12:53
I saw an ad for this place in the classifieds of a local paper, which billed it as a "confiteria lingerie". From that title I figured it could be anything from a rip-off strip joint to a café that simply has waitresses in lingerie.
Rest assured, it is a place to meet chicas. I arrived a bit after midnight and was virtually the first guy there. The place is pretty small. There were about 6 chicas there; without prompting a fat one proposed AR$100, while the one I ultimately chose was AR$200 (I am sure that figure includes an element of foreigner tax) I think there was a requirement to buy one chica drink, but can't remember how much. There is a transitorio but it is not nearby, maybe a 10 minute cab ride away. If you have been to a club in BA you should be able to handle yourself here quite fine.
This was all the time and energy I had to explore such activities during my three and ½ days in Salta. Overall this area is highly recommended; inexpensive, terrific food and excellent scenery.
BundaLover
07-22-07, 17:08
Could you post a bit more tourist info about your trip to Salta? How does the scenery compare to other regions of Argentina? Is this as nice an area to visit as Patagonia for example? Is it snowing there at this time of year? What is there to do during the daytime? Are there foreign toursits there?
Is the food different from the rest of Argentina? Thanks
Dominicfla
07-22-07, 17:51
Could you post a bit more tourist info about your trip to Salta? How does the scenery compare to other regions of Argentina? Is this as nice an area to visit as Patagonia for example? Is it snowing there at this time of year? What is there to do during the daytime? Are there foreign toursits there?
Is the food different from the rest of Argentina? ThanksSure. I have only been to BA and Salta, so I cannot compare the scenery with the rest of the country. Nevertheless, the area has a lot of intense things to see; you are in the Andes.
I chose to visit Salta mainly through a process of elimination: it is one of the more temperate areas in the country during winter. Having been to BA once in April 2005, this time I had wanted to check out one other part of the country in addition to some time in BA.
The climate in Salta is more desertlike, and fluctuated wildly throughout the course of the day (70s in the day, down to 40s or even 30s at night) There was no snow.
Because there are different landscapes in each direction from town (e. G. West is desert, north becomes sub-tropical) daytrips for sightseeing are one of the best tourist-type activities. They usually start early in the day and in a sense are physically demanding. I only had time for one such trip, to the small town of Cachi through Parque Nacional de Cardones. I lined it up through a tour company beforehand, and it was US$74. The guide spoke English as well. The tour company is MovieTrak. I didn't run into any other Americans in Salta, but there were a fair amount of tourists, especially from England and Spain. Also met a few tourists visiting from BA.
The city itself is good for walking around, and you can take a teleferico / gondola up a hill for a panoramic view. It is in the most indigenous area of Argentina, so while I blended in fine appearance-wise in BA (until American English-accented Spanish came out of my mouth) as a 6'2 white Jewish guy I certainly stood out here. Did not feel unsafe or experience any problems in that regard.
Souvenirs of leather and colorful cloth are plentiful and quite inexpensive. The food in Salta is especially good and represents a terrific bargain. Empanadas are smaller than in BA but more flavor-packed. I had locro (a traditional stew) rabbit stew and a fillet of llama throughout the course of my visit, all of which were outstanding (llama does not necessarily compare to beef or chicken – I would classify it as tasty grilled meat) One restaurant had coca tea, which I had to try (it may have given me a bit more energy than a regular cup of tea, but no effect beyond that) Since BA was the next place on my agenda, and because I wanted to try the more native or unusual dishes, I didn't have too much beef in Salta but it is available everywhere.
I had really wanted to get "away" for my recent 9 days of travel, and definitely got that feeling in the northwest.
Just called Argentina Airlines, got a quote from BsAs to Salta round trip for $282 US. Flying anytime. Penalty charge for cancellation is $50. Will refund the rest.
Does anyone think it is a good deal?
Thanks!
Strad
Just called Argentina Airlines, got a quote from BsAs to Salta round trip for $282 US. Flying anytime. Penalty charge for cancellation is $50. Will refund the rest.
Does anyone think it is a good deal?
Thanks!
StradI think that is about right for the gringo fare. I doubt LAN flys from BA to Salta, but they might. Might be worth comparing.
Dominicfla
08-01-07, 23:20
I just reviewed my itinerary from earlier this summer, and the BA-Salta RT ticket was US$ 303.
BundaLover
08-02-07, 02:14
LAN flies Salta-BA. It was 122$ one way last week.
Salon on a Wednesday night is nice, but I am sure on other nights as well.
BundaLover
11-20-07, 05:18
Guys, The following are extracts I cut and pasted from virtual tourist of comments about Salta area. (I think this is all public domain stuff) All are from late 2007. I have not been there yet. The article in Spanish is about the Movitrak tourist van that had an accident in the hills and several foreign tourists were injured (I think Sept. 2007) Enjoy.
The bus service is not good in the area and travelling with locals could be an experience for one protion of the trip but depending on public service is not really comfortable and enajoyable. No pictures are possible from the dark spoilt window of and old bus. In other words, you are crazy (kidding) Driving but yourself is also a bad idea. The roads are really bad and signs are not there when you need them.
If you do not know if you will have a second chance to visit, please, take a regular tour if you can not pay a private one, but take a tour.
Enjoy it.
If you can pay private tour, do not miss. Tilcara-Purmamarca and the Salt Flats in the north of Salta (province of Jujuy) and take two days to see Cafayate and stay at KIlla, drink the wines from several wineries, visit the goat cheese factory, and take some wine iceream at Miranda's, do not miss the best of the area.
You can ask the TA northwest guide specialist Giena (or Angie as she's known on Fodor's) for assistance. She quoted us $150 U. S. Per day (hotels not included) We booked Monday arrival to Saturday departure with Irene at www.active-argentina.com including airport transfers, private touring with excellent English speaking guides (Adrian picked us up from the airport in Jujuy upon our arrival from BA & drove us through San Salvador de Jujuy & on to Purmamarca & Noe was with us for the balance of the trip) & all hotels. Purmamarca- La Camarca, Salta- La Candela & Cafayate- Hotel Killa. Each hotel was in an excellent location, lovely & comfortable with good breakfasts included. The Killa had the best mattress of the trip.
Total cost was $1398 U. S. For the 2 of us.
I booked with Movitrak (google them and the site comes up)
THE FOOD is an issue!
The food is great, at least you ask for a LOCRO, in December. I suggest some food and nobody died. Of course never get a Menu where all those big buses stop to eat and choose what you want. You have great dishes, like milanesita de peceto con papas rejilla and corn sauce at LA POSTA in PURMAMARCA or Quinoa and Chiken pie at YACON in TILCARA, or lomo relleno also there! I know that most people in this forum like the less busy places, where the food is not just to satisfy the need of eating but the pleasure to taste the best dishes.
I visited Santiago del Estero last year and there was nothing interesting to see or do there. The province itself is quite boring and the trip from Santiago to Cordoba seems eternal.
Tucumán is more interesting than Santiago del Estero, as it's a bigger city. There are nice places in Tucumán Province, which for me is one of the nicest in Argentina. But I agree with Giena, Salta is much nicer than both Santiago and Tucumán.
Un safari con alta demanda.
El contingente de 18 personas había partido ayer, a las 6, con el MoviTrack para hacer el circuito denominado "Safari a las Nubes". Este viaje es una de las dos ofertas de 24 horas que vende la operadora turística MoviTrack Safaris & Turismo EVT.
El tour parte desde la ciudad de Salta por la ruta nacional 51, llega a San Antonio de los Cobres cerca del mediodía. Tras un almuerzo liviano, el contingente continúa hacia las Salinas Grandes, por la ruta nacional 40. Desde allí why luego de un paseo para tomar fotografías why caminar por el salar, prosigue el viaje por la ruta nacional 52 hasta la localidad jujeña de Purmamarca. Desde este pequeño pueblo why por la ruta nacional 9, comienza el retorno a la Salta capital, con un breve paso por la ciudad de San Salvador de Jujuy.
Para que los visitantes tengan la mejor vista panorámica de la Puna salteña why jujeña, el circuito turístico se hace en uno de los vehículos 4x4 que tienen sus techos con escotillas para que el pasajero pueda salir a mirar, sacar fotos o filmar desde lo alto why sin detener la marcha.
Dada la rigurosidad del clima de esta zona árida why del trayecto con tramos en los que se viaja a 4.200 metros sobre el nivel del mar, la empresa exige que cada persona lleve equipamiento especial: "ropa de cebolla" (remera, buzo why campera) con calzado deportivo, abrigo también para verano (guantes, gorro, rompeviento, pantalones largos) why protección solar (crema why anteojos oscuros)
Ayer, tal como lo prevé el programa de viaje, el grupo de turistas había llegado a San Antonio de los Cobres poco antes del mediodía, con lo cual tuvieron algunos minutos para conocer el pueblo why visitar los lugares de mayor interés.
De acuerdo a la versión que pudo obtener El Tribuno, poco después de las 12 compartieron un lunch why finalmente retomaron el trayecto del safari con la idea de llegar hasta las Salinas Grandes.
Sin embargo, el grupo no iba a llegar hasta este conocido salar. Alrededor de las 14, en el cruce de las rutas nacional 40 why la provincial 38, el camión volcó, sólo 10 kilómetros después de dejar San Antonio de los Cobres why cuando el contingente no había recorrido ni la mitad del trayecto.
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Desde hace 10 años.
La empresa MoviTrack Safaris & Turismo EVT tiene una trayectoria de diez años como operadora turística que desde Salta brinda servicio en todo el Noroeste de la Argentina.
La principal diferencia de sus servicios son, precisamente, los vehículos que están equipados para asegurar a los viajeros la mejor vista de cada lugar.
El "MoviTrack" fue diseñado why modificado por Frank Neumann, quien junto a su esposa Heike armaron la empresa en 1998. Es un micro de larga distancia 4x4, que cuenta con las comodidades de un motorhome. Es el más grande de todos los que posee la empresa.
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El Safari de las Nubes cubre, en un día, una distancia de más de 600 kilómetros a través de la Puna de Salta why de Jujuy.
El lugar donde se accidentó el MoviTrack está a pocos minutos de San Antonio de los Cobres, a unos 3.770 metros sobre el nivel del mar.
Desde San Antonio de los Cobres hasta la ciudad de Salta hay 167 kilómetros, que recorrieron las ambulancias con los 12 heridos.
Hi! If I were you, when going to Jujuy Province I'd use the first day to tour Purmamarca and the Salt Flats. The 7 color mountain can be seen from any point in Purmamarca, even from the main square. A piece of advice: visit Purmamarca in the morning or at midday. In the afternoon, especially after 4 pm, the sunlight will not let you appreciate the colors of the mountain. I would overnight in Purmamarca, as there are some nice hotels and restaurants. On the second day, I'd go to see Tilcara (don't miss the Pucará, which is very nice) and Humahuaca. Don't bother to drive to La Quiaca, the scenery is not that spectacular there.
The drive from Purmamarca to the Salt Flats is spectacular, and I guess the route from Salta to San Antonio de los Cobres might be quite the same. If I had to choose a place to go on a daily trip, that would be Cafayate. The drive through the Rio de las Conchas' gorge is magnificent and Cafayate is a lovely city, much nicer than San Antonio de los Cobres.
Brasu is right Purmamarca is not worth in the afternoon only. I suggest people to overnight and drive up to Tilcara one day and to the Salinas Grandes the second day.
Cafayate is another spot you should not miss.
La Quiaca only if you are interested in Yavi or the bording activity watching the slaves ofd this century.
San Antonio de los Cobres is not worth without the train. And the driving is so long from San Antonio to the Salt Flats that when you reach there you are tired. Enjoy Purmamarca, youcan walk around the hills or just listen to the silence.
Warm regards.
Incaman: I would not say two night is Purmamamrca is too much, as I see you want to do it carefully, not in a rush and if you are driving yourself it is better to stay two nights. I do not find Humhahuca itself the must in your trip but if you reach there you can eat at La Cacharpaya, see the Monuments to Heroes of Independence and the church, Tilcara is great, visit the indian ruins and the Museum. A great place to eat is Yacon in Rivadavia 222, my friends Cristian and his brother run this restaurant which is one of the best in the area. I suggest pastel de quinoa why pollo. And pancakes with dulce de leche! In Purmamarca you can stay at EL Cardon, nice inexpensive and comfortable. Take one of the rooms upstairs, and in the morning see the marvellous scenery from there.
The train to the clouds is not touristy anymore. IT IS DEAD! And the trip through out SAn Antonio de los Cobres and Salinas Grandes is long, exhausting and the sceneries do not worth such a ride. IMHO, I prefer the ride through Purmamarca including Tilcara and maybe Humahuaca.
Try to follow me in a map. The scenery in the way to San Antonio is worth up to Santa Rosa de Tastil. Besides, San Antonio is at 3775 mts, that is close to 12000 ft and most people get sick, not only because of the altitude, but also for the low atmosphere preasure and the lack of oxigen. There is no way to avoy it, there are promoted trips in special vehicles, that is a cheat. In the way to Salinas from Purmamarca you will go even higher but you will not feel sick. I suggest you to concentrate the see Cafayate (NOT Calafate or the mix of them both Calafayate) See Humahuaca, Tilcara, Purmamarca stay a night there if possible and go the next day to Salinas Grandes. Avoy the awful bumping, dusty route 40 between San Antonio and Salinas. Prefer Cachi or the whole way around the Calchaquies Valleys better. Remember this is your 1st time in the NW and the 1st impression is the most important. Do not spoil it by choosing the wrong itinerary.
There are plenty of Estancias around Salta, anmd very nice them all.
I like Manantial del MIlagro, close to Salta town. I would take one or two nights in COlome instead. And maybe enjoyed two nights in Salta,.
What do you think about Starting in Salta to Cachi - overnight at COlome, driving down to Cafayate, a night in KIlla Hotel and the 3rd day route 68 Cafayate- Salta not before tasting some of the wines from the area, or the wine ice-cream at MIRANDA'S or the goat ice-cream. Overnigth in Salta and then two days to the norht visiting Tilcara - Purmamarca - Overnight - and the Salt Flats - SAlinas Grandes. Salta the 5th day.
Colome has a great horseback-riding around the Estancia and the scenery is unique. If a horseback riding id not for you the alternative are massages. I heard they are incredible.
Colome, while pricey by Argentine standards, is spectacularly beautiful, and the road south to Cafayate is astounding. Hotel Killa is a lovely place--low key, tastefully and lovingly put together in the Andean style--with an equally lovely proprietor Martha. The one thing that surprised me most about the town, though, was the wind in the afternoons--the air was filled with dust (I should have known when I saw the sand dunes outside of town)--made me glad to be staying IN town rather than out in a more open area. The same was true at the Quilmes ruins--seems to be more an afternoon phenomenon, though. Then it's an easy drive, with time for stops along the way, back to Salta. The goat cheese place, halfway to Salta, makes for a really tasty and relaxing stop.
In Tilcara, I can recommend Quinta la Pacena--inexpensive, with character and very pleasant, enclosed grounds, (parking, too) and an easy walk everywhere. Have fun, you really can't go wrong--just plan on every destination taking longer to get to than you think, no matter how intrepid a driver you are (but we loved driving, nonetheless)
First off, I would recommend hiring a driver instead of driving your own car. Many of the roads are not paved and altitude sickness can be a problem. If you are really opposed to going in a tour and would rather drive, I guess driving to Cafayate and Purmamarca would be okay, although I still wouldn't personally recommend it. For private, personalized tours I can recommend Turismo San Lorenzo, located ten minutes outside of Salta in San Lorenzo. Tastil also has a good reputation for larger tours.
As far as hotels in Salta, my parents stayed in Hotel Salta and liked it. It could probably use some updates but has a great location right on the central plaza and is cozy enough. In Purmamarca we stayed at Rincon del Fuego. Beautifully decorated and great breakfasts. I would definitely stay in Tilcara, as it has the most options for restaurants and bars. If you want something calmer Purmamarca is nice too. If you want to venture past Tilcara I wouldn't go farther than Humahuaca, as it gets pretty desolate and there are no towns until you get to the Argentine-Bolivian border. Hope that helps!
If you are driving to Cafayate via Cachi, you absolutely should spend at least one night enroute! Whether you spend two depends if you would like to spend a day enjoying the surroundings, or just get back in the car. The driving time is longer than the distances would indicate.
The road to Cachi is absolutely spectacular, with amazingly varied scenery -- as if you are in several different geographic regions within the space of hours. However, it is a very narrow, unpaved road traveling along high cliffs with no barriers and fog often sets in. (I have to say that during the fog it was absolutely terrifying; our only saving grace was our guide's familiarity with the road; there was ZERO visiblity) Also, there are no tourist service enroute (except for one grungy hostel) and limited, if any, road signs. Your ability to drive this is up to you, but we did it with a guide. And he was fantastic.
We spent two nights enroute at Estancia Colome. I would have loved to have had even more along that route, either another night at Colome, or a night in Cachi. (they are only about two hours apart, but I would have liked to have spent more time in Cachi; not much to do, but very enchanting place)
The drive to Cachi from Salta is about four hours; probably two to Colome (near Molinos) and then I think 2-3 to Cafayate. Not sure exactly, but that's my recollection.
When in Purmamarca, take the walk in the hills behind the village. Tilcara is a great stop as well, with Inca ruins, a small museum, crafts market in square.
Don't try to get from Salta through Cachi and on to Cafayate in one day. It would be a full day of hard driving with no time to see anything at all. The itinerary posted above, with a couple of days in each place (Cachi, Colome, Cafayate, Salta) is the way to enjoy it. Of course, take Route 68 through the Quebrada when going from Cafayate back to Salta: a gorgeous, easy drive, and takes about 4 hours with sightseeing.
Even getting from Salta to Pumamarca is no piece of cake, timewise. Of course, Humahuaca is even farther.
I spent a few days in Salta recently and confirm it is a nice city to relax and a good base for many interesting tours. Plenty of agencies offer a wide range of activities.
Not being a young disco dweller, and not confident in my irresistible magnetism, I called Soraya from http://www.zonalove.com.ar/: she quoted 300 AR$ and I declined.
So I went to Barbie's (every taxi should know where it is) 10-12 girls where there, I sat at the bar, had a beer (20 AR$) a few came to kiss me and tell their name, not pushy at all.
I spent some time chatting (in spanish) no one asked for a drink, I took out Jacqueline for 150 AR$, you have to pay upfront because she has to pay the bar (no lady drink or bar fine for you) taxi to a shorttime hotel (21 AR$ the room)
She wasn't very active but very sweet and I was happy. Then taxi back to Barbie to drop her, then to my hotel.
I have been there three weeks ago. Nothing really interesting. Barbies is a bar with more or less 10 girls but service is very basic and cost 120 Pesos. Did'nt find anyone who does servicio completo. Some girls in the streets but depends day and time. Go there to enjoy the city and the provincia and get tired to sleep well!
I found out that there are actually two Barby Clubs, "Barby 1" at that location mentioned below and "Barby 2" outside of the central part of the city, beyond the river. Club "Barby 1" was (temporarily? Closed. Therefore I went to Club "Barby 2", however I was disappointed. It is quite a small room, very smoky, and cold (no heating) In addition, the girls were not attractive at all, therefore I immediately went out of the club. I ask the taxi driver if there are other clubs but he negated.
A much better alternative is to listen (and dance if you want) to any live music provided in many clubs in the Balcarce street. I have been to a club at the corner of Balcarce and Necochea street. Many women, good music (pop, cumbia, rock) good vibe etc. However you have to be able to speak spanish in order to get attention of any woman.
One more note for the excursions: I did some to the countryside (Cafayate, Cachi, and one parallel to the road of the train) it is very interesting. Check-out Salta Connection at Buenos Aires 268, Tourismo de la Posada at Buenos Aires 94 and 195, and MoviTrack Safari / Tastil (Tastil obviously bought the former MoviTrack comany) at Caseros 468. The last one is a bit more expensive, however they have the famous MoviTrack, a modified truck where the roof can be opened for viewing / fotographing 360 degree around
Have fun!
Travelling to BA this week than to Salta for a few days.
Other than Barbys there does not seem to be much in Salta. Are there any other similar clubs or privados anyone can recommend?
In Salta recently. Asked taxi driver to take us to Barby 2. Got there about 11pm. Illuminated sign on but doors locked. Asked driver for a recommendation and he took us to Blue Skies (the name is in english) quite central.
Got there about 11-30, club is quite dark but very friendly greeting. About 10 chicas there from 3's to 8's. Most came to introduce themselves. All drinks about 30p and necessary to buy one chica drink at same price.
Cost 150p.
Option of two motels, the more expensive is 80p for one and a half hours with 30% discount for second visit. The cheaper motel is 45p and is poor quality.
Some taxi drivers do not know club, (think it was on San Luis.
Not much choice in Salta but Blue Skies is worth a visit
In Salta recently. Asked taxi driver to take us to Barby 2. Got there about 11pm. Illuminated sign on but doors locked. Asked driver for a recommendation and he took us to Blue Skies (the name is in english) quite central.
Got there about 11-30, club is quite dark but very friendly greeting. About 10 chicas there from 3's to 8's. Most came to introduce themselves. All drinks about 30p and necessary to buy one chica drink at same price.
Cost 150p.
Option of two motels, the more expensive is 80p for one and a half hours with 30% discount for second visit. The cheaper motel is 45p and is poor quality.
Some taxi drivers do not know club, (think it was on San Luis.
Not much choice in Salta but Blue Skies is worth a visitIan, Thanks for that useful information.
Salta is a nice place to visit and Blue Skies sounds a lot better than Barby.
Floyd Dylan
05-06-10, 00:51
I was going to head to Blue Skies, but walking around Balcarce, I was handed a flier for Barby's. It said that Barby's I is on Alvear 682, but doesn't have shows, and that Barby's II is at Av. Palacios 2460, and has shows.
Says they're open 22:00 until 5:00am.
So I jumped in a cab to Barby's II. Pretty disappointing. Small, drab, not much talent. It was around 2am on a Saturday night. About 8 - 10 bored girls hanging out in a clump and a couple of guys at tables talking to a couple girls. None of the girls were over a '6'. Most of them fat.
Although they have a stage with pole, it was dark. No show. One of the chicas explained that it was too early - things don't heat up until 4 or 5am! "But don't you close at 5?" No, you just have to enter before 5 - after that, they stay open as late as things are hopping - 11, noon.
I guess the locals come by after they've struck out at the dance clubs.
I didn't inquire since I wasn't interested, but one of the girls told me it's 200 pesos / hour. I'm sure that can be negotiated down.
I only stayed for one beer. Asked the next cabbie if there was anywhere better. He took me to a place not far away called Don Quixote. Much nicer environs, but absolutely nothing happening. Two girls hanging out, a but better looking than at Barby's, but still only a 7, tops. They too said it was simply too early in the night.
Wish I had better news to report.
The women are built like fire plugs with faces blotchy and masculine-looking. There's not a single privado that I've found. The massage places are staffed by the old and ugly. The pick-up places are full of creatures that say "moo" and the town is not really all that cute. The surrounding countryside is only okay, but not nearly as nice as places in Europe or the States.
What a waste. I'm horny.
Hi Folks, I'm going to Salta tomorrow, looks like this sub-forum is still pretty quiet. Anybody got some update information there? Either pro or non-pro information will be welcomed! (Although I personally more like non-pro or GFE, but considering I cannot speak Spanish, so pro information is also needed).
Cheers!
After spending 4 days here in Salta I've come to the conclusion that there's little mongering action here. Though I didn't go to any strip clubs I did look in the usual place for some action. Nothing much in the papers there was a little SW action after 1am in dark corners along Av San Juan. Most of what I saw there was hideous but SW's are not my thing anyway.
JustCheckin28
05-20-12, 03:19
I'm going to Salta on the 20th of May, anyone have a recommendation for a girl in the area?
Thanks
I was just in Salta. Unfortunately I am not as young as I once was and I cannot stay up long enough to appreciate the bar scene on Balcarce, although it was fun. Leaving there Saturday night and walking home I went in the casino on peatonal Alberdi (Balcarce is the continuation of the next peatonal over, peatonal Florida) between I believe is Urquiza and maybe Alvarado. Anyway it is on the right hand side as you come from the bar district about two blocks before you hit the main drag of San Martín. This was about one AM and there were three hookers in there. It took some negotiating and sharing of my liter of Salta beer (which I don't like; the light is too light and the dark is not dark beer but stout and very sweet) but I got one down to 300 and took her to a 45 pesos telo two blocks away (don't remember the street but behind the casino). All three were doable and I was pretty sober. All three were from Salta. Earlier in the day or maybe it was the day before, I walked into a small poker parlor right off the plaza San Martín (meaning on one of the four streets that circumscribe the plaza but in the next block). It had older, uglier hookers but maybe it's better at night. I doubt it, though. I am in Jujuy now.
More Salta information: Take the 8A bus from the airport for 2 pesos but have exact change in coins and not the new 2 peso coin which it does not take. Fuck the taxistas. It is not a long ride, maybe 40 minutes max. I heard the 6 is a more direct route but the 8A came first so I went with that. Just walk out of the airport and there is a covered bus stop right there. Cannot miss it. Do NOT stay at the hotel General Güemes on España 446 for 230 p as it is a dreary, run down piece of shit. Instead stay at Mirador del Cerro at Alvarado and H. Irigoyen for 220 pesos which is a very good value in my opinion, and I am a connoisseur of cheap to moderately priced hotels. This is right by the entrance to the teleférico and very close to the bus station but not too close, if you know what I mean. There are three restaurants on Irigoyen if you hang a left going out the hotel door and I can recommend the one in the middle especially. The bigger one farther towards the next street is pretty good too. The food here is much more imaginative and indeed far better, and cheaper, than in Buenos Aires.
The Salta bus station is very nice and has clearly posted signs saying the bathroom is free and that you do not have to buy anything to sit at the tables. In fact all of Salta is clean, unlike BA. It also has a very stringent no smoking law which is marvelous in my opinion. I could easily live here six months out of the year.
Jujuy is a run down piece of shit.
The plaza I was talking about is 9 de Julio and not San Martín. BUT, I was confusing parts of two trips. The place with the poker parlor off the main square is in Formosa. The place I saw here, called Real Poker, is between the bus station and the Hotel Continental on the hotel side of the street. I think that is still H. Irigoyen but the streets are kind of funny down there. Today I passed another place I believe to be a hooker bar, but it wasn't open yet, of course. La Costa Azul. I have written down Caseros 482 but it seems to me it might be Alvarado 482.
Going out of Salta towards Jujuy, on the right hand side, between the New Holland headquarters and the first peaje (toll) , is a big complex called Motel Swing. I think this might be a hooker compound. I can't see it being a no-tell motel or love motel because it is too blatant. I was on the bus and so could not check it out but someone should. It's probably only a ten minute drive from the bus station.
Other notes: public computers very hard to find here. Everyone and his mother has a laptop or tablet and there is free wifi in the plazas. This place I am in now is across from the Vea grocery store on one of the peatonales, near Alvarado. Also, the bar district on Balcarce starts at the 800 block after the two way avenida Entre Ríos, and the street numbers go up from there.
That is it for Salta. I am headed to Catamarca next and we will see if I find anything to report. I have now been to 20 of the 23 provinces in Argentina and mongered in about 15 of them.
Rockin Bob
05-22-12, 17:43
Do NOT stay at the hotel General Güemes on España 446 for 230 p as it is a dreary, run down piece of shit.
Jujuy is a run down piece of shit.DH, thanks for a couple of great reports on Jujuy and Salta!
I was a lttle surprised to read a post on the board that actually conveyed information, but a little worried about authenticity. No name calling? No attacks on people you haven't even met?
But then I read your opinion of the hotel and Jujuy in general and I was delighted to see we are expanding to insulting places, not just people.
One request: could you maybe quote a few prices to give an idea of "cheaper".
The price of a liter of Quilmes or a bottle of malbec?
Mejorahora
05-22-12, 20:39
Motel Swing is a 'Love Hotel' which you rent by the hour. You have to bring your own puta. It is quite run down though. There are better choices, including 'El Castillo' which is located in Zona Sur of Salta Capital.
Going out of Salta towards Jujuy, on the right hand side, between the New Holland headquarters and the first peaje (toll) , is a big complex called Motel Swing. I think this might be a hooker compound. I can't see it being a no-tell motel or love motel because it is too blatant. I was on the bus and so could not check it out but someone should. It's probably only a ten minute drive from the bus station.
DH, thanks for a couple of great reports on Jujuy and Salta!
I was a lttle surprised to read a post on the board that actually conveyed information, but a little worried about authenticity. No name calling? No attacks on people you haven't even met?
But then I read your opinion of the hotel and Jujuy in general and I was delighted to see we are expanding to insulting places, not just people.
One request: could you maybe quote a few prices to give an idea of "cheaper".
The price of a liter of Quilmes or a bottle of malbec?What is cheaper is restaurant food and hotels. Quilmes in the grocery is the same price. I don't drink wine. I can't give you any price quotes. And someone who yells out in public,"No fucking nigger will ever be elected president of the United States" as you did in El Álamo is unlikely to be the recipient of any particular effort on my part. Guess you were wrong about that, huh?
Suerte!
Any new reports on Salta? Is the chica scene that horrible?
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