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BadMan

10-01-06, 12:56

Went to Blacks last night to see what all the hype was about and I was very not impressed. There were alot of girls maybe 30 to 35 last night and just as many dudes. Out of the 30 or so girls I would classify about 12 as doable and out of those about 5 were I would says 7's. There were no 9's to speak of at all. I would say based on just body there were a few 8's but when you factor in the face, They go down a notch to about 7.5's.

I was given a tip from Ruggero and for anyone that doesn't know it I will pass it on. I have been told never to take a taxi directly to Blacks because the taxi will get a commision and they will charge you more for it, I don't know how true this is but I do know they get tips for bringing clients in. So I was told .

Just ask the taxi cab to take you to the Alvear Hotel and just cross the street.

I talked to 2 girls there, One of them was a big breasted babe with long reddish brown hair with blonde streaks, She actually had a great body but she was a little older for my taste, she said 29 but I would guess 35. Again she had a great body with huge mellons but I let the big head talk so I didn't bite. She started off by saying that the least she could ask for was 200 USD. I told her to take a walk and she countered with," well how about we start over " hehe.

I told her I wasn't interested, I felt bad after a while because she kept looking at me with this sad look as though I had rejected her or something. But in truth I didn't I just didn't like the fact that she treated me like a yokel. I will probably end up going back and picking her up for 400 pesos for TLN. I am sure its possible.

I also talked to another girl and I actually bought her a drink, just because it was late and I wanted to go home and besides, she looked thirsty. To be honest this girl was LAME, she started off by saying 300 USD and the lowest would be 200 USD and she didnt give up the cola (WHICH I DIDNT EVEN ASK HER FOR) So I knew it was going nowhere from the start. At this point I had lost all interest allready, but I decided to enjoy myself, I offered her 100 USD for the rest of the night, she countered with 150 (its funny how fast they go down from 300 USD for one hour to 150 USD for the whole night)

Anyways I had no desire to take her home. Not only had she started off all wrong by saying NO to cola, but she also told me that NO girls from Blacks give up the cola. To which I literally started laughing at her, since the previous girl had offered it up with no problem. Well that was about it. I sent her on her merry way.

I ended up spending 10 pesos each way with the taxi and 40 pesos for the entrance and 80 pesos for her drink. All in all 140 pesos down the drain. A lesson learned. Though in truth there WERE about 4 to 5 girls that were really doable and for 200 USD I might go back and pick them up for the whole night.

It wasn't rediculously expensive but for the quality of chicks in there. They are smoking some good ish if they think they are worth 200 to 300 an hour.

Badboy.

PS I think they slipped me a bunk 10 peso note with some change, I am not sure if it was there but chances are it was. So you guys need to double check all your notes even if its dark as hell in there.

Oh yeah and by the way, there was a previous thread that Jackson posted about some girl who was setting up home burglaries and stealing guys laptops. I saw her ass there. I am 100 % sure it was her, same nose and same flat body and blonde hair. So to any guys that don't know whats up, watch out for that one.

I will probably go back tomorrow and pick up this luscious 20 year old brazilian with a gorgeous set of tits. I'll let you guys know how it went

Ampfofu

10-01-06, 15:06

Good post, but I see only one thing wrong. You talk about the costs for drinks and taxis in pesos and then chica costs in us dolars. I think you should tell the bitches you have no dollars and to only deal in pesos. They will get you with dollars. Blacks is a funny place. Those chicas think they are playmates. But when you turn them down, they do look at you with those puppy dog eyes, and continue to do so until you leave with another woman or just leave. I like to make Blaks a first stop for the night just for some laughs or the last of the night to possibly get a good deal if that is what I am after for the night. Anyways have fun.

Went to Blacks last night to see what all the hype was about and I was very not impressed. There were alot of girls maybe 30 to 35 last night and just as many dudes. Out of the 30 or so girls I would classify about 12 as doable and out of those about 5 were I would says 7's. There were no 9's to speak of at all. I would say based on just body there were a few 8's but when you factor in the face, They go down a notch to about 7.5's.

I was given a tip from Ruggero and for anyone that doesn't know it I will pass it on. I have been told never to take a taxi directly to Blacks because the taxi will get a commision and they will charge you more for it, I don't know how true this is but I do know they get tips for bringing clients in. So I was told to.

Just ask the taxi cab to take you to the Alvear Hotel and just cross the street.

I talked to 2 girls there, One of them was a big breasted babe with long reddish brown hair with blonde streaks, She actually had a great body but she was a little older for my taste, she said 29 but I would guess 35. Again she had a great body with huge mellons but I let the big head talk so I didn't bite. She started off by saying that the least she could ask for was 200 USD. I told her to take a walk and she countered with," well how about we start over " hehe.

I told her I wasn't interested, I felt bad after a while because she kept looking at me with this sad look as though I had rejected her or something. But in truth I didn't I just didn't like the fact that she treated me like a yokel. I will probably end up going back and picking her up for 400 pesos for TLN. I am sure its possible.

I also talked to another girl and I actually bought her a drink, just because it was late and I wanted to go home and besides, she looked thirsty. To be honest this girl was LAME, she started off by saying 300 USD and the lowest would be 200 USD and she didnt give up the cola (WHICH I DIDNT EVEN ASK HER FOR) So I knew it was going nowhere from the start. At this point I had lost all interest allready, but I decided to enjoy myself, I offered her 100 USD for the rest of the night, she countered with 150 (its funny how fast they go down from 300 USD for one hour to 150 USD for the whole night)

Anyways I had no desire to take her home. Not only had she started off all wrong by saying NO to cola, but she also told me that NO girls from Blacks give up the cola. To which I literally started laughing at her, since the previous girl had offered it up with no problem. Well that was about it. I sent her on her merry way.

I ended up spending 10 pesos each way with the taxi and 40 pesos for the ontrance and 80 pesos for her drink. All in all 140 pesos down the drain. A lesson learned. Though in truth there WERE about 4 to 5 girls that were really doable and for 200 USD I might go back and pick them up for the whole night.

It wasn't rediculously expensive but for the quality of chicks in there. They are smoking some good ish if they think they are worth 200 to 300 an hour.

Badboy.

PS I think they slipped me a bunk 10 peso note with some change, I am not sure if it was there but chances are it was. So you guys need to double check all your notes even if its dark as hell in there.

Oh yeah and by the way, there was a previous thread that Jackson posted about some girl who was setting up home burglaries and stealing guys laptops. I saw her ass there. I am 100 % sure it was her, same nose and same flat body and blonde hair. So to any guys that don't know whats up, watch out for that one.

I will probably go back tomorrow and pick up this luscious 20 year old brazilian with a gorgeous set of tits. I let you guys know how it went

Hunt99

10-02-06, 09:47

Perhaps if Badboy had read this forum rather than spending his time articulating his political opinions, he would have learned that going to Black on the weekend is one of the cardinal no-nos. Monday through Thursday are the nights to go to this place.

In addition, newbies who lack experience and Spanish skills are more likely to be disappointed here than in some other places.

Black is definitely not the place for lightweight mongers who are looking for a quick and easy 5 peso blowjob without any of the challenges of negotiation and knowledge of the scene. So stay away, and leave the professional mongering to the professionals.;)

BadMan

10-02-06, 10:13

Thanks for the advice Hunt,.

I don't consider myself a lightweight anything and I also speak spanish well enough. And yes, I don't have much experience in the BA scene, but I have enough experience to not get burned for my hard earned cash. And just an F. Y. I I have never gotten a 5 peso blowjob or would I want one. I am not a bargain hunter by any means, it's just the talent at THAT club on THAT day wasn't worth 200 USD. I can also appreciate the fact that the weekend isn't a good time to go to Black, but DUDE, I came here on Saturday, what was I supposed to do sit and Jack off in my apartment.

I will also have you know that I have read many of the Black posts before I came here and nowhere did it say " don't GO ON SATURDAYS ". If anything I have learned on my own that on the weekends there seems to be slim pickings in BA, and that is something that I wasn't really prepared for. Live and learn.

But I will try again maybe tonight, my main problem in BA, is the whole night owl culture or maybe its the time difference, I am not sure but come 1 am I am usually sound asleep:D.

Badboy

Flexible Horn

10-02-06, 12:30

Bad Boy.

I'm guessing by the nature of your posts your mid thirties.

If you can, try out Cocodrillo. I think it will appeal to you, on my last visit earlier this year it was my favourite club.

If your in BsAs next weekend arrange with a chica during this week to go for a meal Sunday, its what I do.

FH

Big Bob 7

10-02-06, 16:28

I haven't been there in a while but Cocodrilo used to be the place where us trolling, inexperienced, pedantic, bottom-feeding mongers used to go to pick up Black girls for 150pesos after the ultra experienced mongers finished spending the mortgage payments on them. I stopped going all together because I have an allergy to rubber and as a result do not make a habit of fucking lifeless dolls.

Offct

10-03-06, 03:22

Black was on my list of places to sample and I have to say was bitterly dissappointed. Small venue, very smokey (even though I smoke) not much place to sit, decor not that trendy or chic considering the prices. The chicas seemed a little desperate and would literally maneuver themselves directly into your path as if to say "hey gringo, why you look elsewhere, here look at me"! A couple of my mates had been at Blacks earlier in our stay and reported that they had had a good time but that the place lacked value for money. Sorry to all you Black fans but Black would not rate on my hit parade.

Hunt99

10-19-06, 03:25

Came in tonight after dinner. Arrived about 11.30, in company of another well-known poster, and we counted a total of 12 customers on site. Girls numbered about 40, with both numbers steadily rising the longer we stayed.

No cover tonight. Quilmes was 40 pesos (and my customary Tanqueray and Tonic 50. Up from 35 six months ago.

My waitress of 5 years' standing is now living in Espana, a great shame and loss for me, as she was always a source of good recommendations and always made sure my needs (both alcoholic and sexual) were taken care of.

Girls tonight seemed of a lower quality than on my previous visits. Certainly there were 5-10 which I would have been happy to drill. But all-in-all, I think there was less of the high-class poon tang than I have been used to in this place over the years. Perhaps it is slipping, or perhaps it was just a bad night.

One thing to remember - they don't hire any girls except Caucasian ones here. Mulatas, Indianas, or Africans are non-existent.

I was overall disappointed, perhaps most of all because I wasn't able to discuss the state of the club with my long-time waitress. Even so, this has been the best club in town for so long, I would not count it out, out of hand.

Hefe

11-21-06, 01:31

The talent was pretty slim and awful looking. But again, it was Sunday.

Monger514

11-28-06, 19:05

I usually try to visit Black once or twice a trip, just for the experience. I have pulled Vanessa a couple of times, and written about it. Really, if you can splurge a little bit, she is a great date.

I visited Black again on my last trip a couple of weeks ago, and Vanessa was already with someone (though as always, she recognized me and said hi) so I decided to check out what else was available. It was pretty crowded that night, and I spoke to several girls. Pretty much I disregard the "buy me a drink" line and just chat up whoever I want to now. At 600 pesos a pop, I really do try my best to screen them here before buying a drink or taking one home. (This night, anyway, I don't think any girls asked me to buy them a drink before letting me chat at least a little bit first)

There was this one chick with really nice big tits practically hanging out, but she had a stern, distant look on her face. She looked like a living painting. I looked straight at her and said hello, and she just turned away. I suppose she will be one of the ones who charge more, and she could tell just by looking at me I wouldn't be one of her customers tonight. 600 pesos is more or less the floor here, and I imagine some of the girls charge more, and she is one of them.

I continued sucking on my one beer and working the floor, but wasn't too crazy about anything I was seeing and talking to. But I did notice a very pretty bleached blonde sitting at the bar who kept smiling at me when I went by. I'm normally very drawn to brunettes, but Vanessa is blonde (well, kind of a dirty blonde) and that worked out pretty well, so I try to start thinking about this one. She did seem to have a nice big pair of titties, and maybe they were even natural, from what I could see.

Finally I plopped down on one of the sofas just to check things out from a distance, and after a few minutes the bleached blonde appeared in front of me, smiling, but not aggressive or anything. I waved her over and she introduced herself as Sofia. After chatting with her for a few minutes, I started to get a good feeling, so I asked her, 600 pesos? Yes, she said, no problem. OK, I guess this is my night to splurge at Black. I waved at the waitress and ordered her a drink, and after some more chat, we were off to my apartment.

One minor digression, for some reason the taxi driver's meter wasn't working. I have had so few (really, zero) problems with taxi drivers in BA, I didn't think about it, but I should have gotten out of the cab and asked for another. Anyway, in the short trip I asked about him about it, and he brushed it off, saying something about a "tip". When we reached the apartment, I gave him a 10 and asked for a 5 back. He gave it to me, but I sensed some reluctance, and I told him we hadn't gone very far, and it's not my fault his machine is broken. When I got into the lobby of my building, I looked back towards the street saw that the taxi was still there, and the driver was waving vigorously. I couldn't tell if he was giving me the finger, but he was doing something. This struck me as quite humorous, because I don't consider myself a tough guy or anything, this old guy was half my size and I could have easily squashed him.

Anyway, up to the apartment. We had talked in the club about massages, and how we both liked them. She invited me to start with her first. No problem! She got undressed, and man, those titties were perfect C-cups and absolutely totally natural. I started rubbing her back and shoulders, then worked my way down to her legs, and then her feet, at which point I started hearing little moans of pleasure.

We switched, and she started rubbing me. She was pretty good. When she got down to my lower back, she started separating my legs a little bit, then my butt cheeks, and then I felt her tongue working its way up right into my nether regions. Wow! That's the first time that's happened to me since I started going to BA! Guess my foot rub paid off?

Then this gets even better. I absolutely hate putting that damn rubber bologna on my wiener, it is the greatest mood killer in my sessions with these girls. I read somewhere on the forum that a really good girl will slip on the condom without you even noticing it. That has never happened to me. Well, Sofia rolled me over and got on top, putting me inside of her, and damn if she hadn't done exactly that. It was quite pleasant to skip that awkward, mood-killing moment.

Then, I found myself enjoying her on top of me, and this was another novelty. I've had plenty of girls on top of me before, but I usually switch positions quickly, because this one just doesn't do anything for me. Now I know why. Sofia is the first woman who has gotten on top of me and obviously knew what she was doing. She held my arms down and rocked back and forth in a way that I could actually feel what was going on, and I enjoyed it. I almost finished, which is saying a lot, given this is my least favorite position and the bologna was on, but that was still fun. I flipped her over and then finished easily.

This was a really nice session. She was professional and knew how to do her part just right, but at the same time she was always smiling, nice, and talkative. I would definitely repeat (I didn't, for this trip, but primarily for budget reasons)

For Black lovers, I recommend Sofia or Vanessa.

P. S. Sofia searched her purse for some massage oil she thought she had, and couldn't find it. She thought maybe it had fallen out in the taxi. So for all I know, the taxi driver was yelling "Hey you crazy American! Your date left her massage oil in here!"

Brybull

12-09-06, 13:02

In attempt to confirm all the negative comments concerning Black, I will lend the post of my experience on 12/8/06.

I arrived in anticipation of top shelf options, an idea spawned as a result of a conversation, albeit brief, with a very credible source. However, there was a great departure from this reality. The average lady was approaching 35 yrs and I seriously doubt anyone had a legitimate claim of being less than 28. Pausing, I reassure all of you that age was not my major issue. Instead, it was the damaged goods parading around. Four of the ladies, one in particular, had major visible scarring on their stomachs or legs. The breast jobs were excessively lacking (I. E. Gaudy and rock-like) in quality and all ladies left too much to be desired. Our entry was $40 a person, same as the price per drink. All in all, I came hungry and left famished. As such, I too agree that this place should be avoided despite any lingering curiosities.

Monger514

12-11-06, 15:00

Wow, it seems like a lot of guys in the forum are down on this place. Yes, it is overpriced, and there are some dogs, but there are some beautiful women, too. Though attitude can be a problem, you have to be picky.

If these keeps up, guess I'll have the place to myself.

Naahhh. Too many suckers from the hotel across the street.

Blue Jazz20

12-12-06, 11:45

Okay, I know that I don't post here and while this is my second trip to BA. I figured that I owe a little payback for my lurking. While I refuse to go into Black's, I had Griselda (who works at Black's) come over to the mansion and gave her $140 pesos and I didn't even have to pay for the taxi. She took the train back.

She is quite reserved but she is nice once you get past the snooty attitude and has a very decent body.

Every girl who works at these clubs are available outside for a lot less and it's wise to talk them up and ask for their number. Sometimes you get it and sometimes you don't. But ultimately, as seen below, it could mean the difference between paying 400 to 600 pesos VS. 140 to 200 for the same type of girl.

JackLuvsRack

12-12-06, 18:38

Ok, so back in BA after a while. Went here and was a little surprised. I agree with some of what the others on this site write, but depending on your tastes, it's not a bad place. Probably have to go at the write time. There were some hotties, but for some reason I wasn't feeling it. I don't' know, maybe clubs are not the place. One thing is for sure. They definitely don't swarm all over you like in other places. If you like picking girls from clubs, then this is probably a must. I did see and chat with a Pamela Anderson look a like, but I didn't get her name. Will report more soon.

Jack

Andrea 64

12-12-06, 20:59

Headgames, I read your pleasent report and I need to ask to all members wich price do they think is fair for a pick at Black.

I've always, without negotiating and with full satisfaction of the girls, at around 300 / 400 pesos a truly GFE with the young ones. Not more. Why did you offer 600? It's not a critic just a clarification.

To be true only once, probably the most stunning I've ever seen in the club asked me 300 dollars. Unfortunately I declined.

Monger514

12-14-06, 19:21

600 pesos is the "standard" price at Black. A few will want more, and a few (very few) will settle for less. It is true that some of the girls who work at Black can be found in other locations around town, charging less, but not many, I think. I've seen one girl at Newport and Cafe Orleans, and another (just on one occasion) at Excedra. I've never seen Vanessa anywhere else, nor would I expect to.

To save someone else the trouble of posting a rebuttal at this point, I will go ahead and do it here:

"I can go into Black and pull out a Playboy model for 200 pesos. Sometimes I get them at Cocodrilo for 120 pesos. It helps to speak Spanish".

Thanks to all the posters who would have posted that, fortunately now there is no need.

I offered 600 to Sofia because I was tired and didn't feel like haggling, and also she was gorgeous and I didn't think she would go for less anyway.

Exon123

12-14-06, 20:49

Well they were Fuckingt a Gorgeous Chica that works at Black out at the Mansion Sunday for a $120 peso's.

She told me that in Black she quotes $200 US dollars.

I don't got to Black.

Exon

Hunt99

12-14-06, 20:56

"I can go into Black and pull out a Playboy model for 200 pesos. Sometimes I get them at Cocodrilo for 120 pesos. It helps to speak Spanish".Well, I have done it for 300, not 200, the last time I pulled a high-level chica out of there. And I do speak decent enough Spanish to be able to communicate.

But honestly, the ability to negotiate is really necessary if one wants to take a chica out of here. Shy people, guys who get fixated on a single chica, first-time visitors, and English-only speakers will have trouble.

I'll be the last one to criticize another fellow for what he pays, or the quality of his chica, as I have long said "the cock you please must be your own."

The last time I visited, in October, I was very disappointed with the selection available. I'm not surprised that one of the girls I saw was turning 120 peso tricks elsewhere - the ones that I saw last time were in the sub-100 peso category. Apartment girls, really, just one step better than the hogs I saw last time at Cafe Orleans.

For the first time on my visits to BsAs I felt that this place no longer occupied the top spot amongst boliches. But it has had the best talent for so long, that I suspected that it might have been just a temporary thing. And it does vary from night-to-night, as well. I'm not going to give up on this place just yet.

WhiteCat

12-14-06, 21:14

Here's my 2 centavos on the issue.

If you feel you want to pay that price then go ahead. If you feel you can't afford it, get a dictionary, a phone, and a copy of the Clarin. (Actually some of my best times ever were from the Clarin)

Monger514

12-14-06, 22:00

I speak pretty fluent Spanish. Board members who know me can testify to that. I don't need a dictionary to read the Clarin. There might be some other reason besides language that somebody might go to Black rather than pull girls from newspaper ads. To each his own.

Monger514

12-14-06, 22:01

Exon, just for that, I'm going back to Hook to see your girlfriend in January!

Combo

12-15-06, 02:13

I'm new to this site. Long-time Rio hobbyist, and I'll be taking my first trip to BA in January. It sounds like the same thing is happening in BA (or at least at Black's) as has happened in Rio. Too many guys just accept the girl's asking price, instead of bargaining. Again, I don't know BA, but I know in Rio, if a girl asks for X amount, I generally counter with half that price and end up paying a bit more than half.

I guess some guys think they will get a better experience if they pay more, but I think it's actually the opposite. From talking with girls in Rio, they think the guy is a schmuck if he pays the "asking price."

Exon123

12-15-06, 09:51

Exon, just for that, I'm going back to Hook to see your girlfriend in January!CockSucker.

Exon

Hunt99

12-15-06, 20:21

Exon, just for that, I'm going back to Hook to see your girlfriend in January!Which one? Guillermo? Jorge? Rodrigo?

[rimshot]

Fedora

12-16-06, 14:29

Hunt99

12-16-06, 18:57

Last night at Black: As I was leaving with a girl last night, I paid for our drinks. I got 80p in change. I got a 50, a 20, and a 10. We took a cab to my hotel. I tried to use that money to pay the cab. Cabdriver immediately noticed they were fakes.

So 80 pesos fake money from Black. There is no doubt that's where it came from. There's also no doubt that it was intentional. No way they would accidentally give me three fakes. The girl I took out said that if I went back and talked to them I'd get it back, but the hassle isn't worth $25.

Still, keep this in mind when at Blacks. They'll try to steal from you.

It was pretty easy to notice, as the receptionist at my hotel pointed out. You don't even need to see the bill; you can feel it on the paper quality.Bring the fake notes, go back to Black, and ask to speak the the manager. I don't recall his name, but I do recall from earlier reports that he speaks good English. Tell him who gave you the fake notes, and when. I would do this sooner rather than later. It's not the 25 bucks, but the point that crooked employee(s) should not be doing this - you're not the only victim, they're surely ripping off the club and other customers as well.

There have been a couple other customer service incidents arising at this place before, over the years that I've been reading the forum, and when it was clear the customer wasn't BSing the place's management, they were professionally dealt with by them. Sorry to see this happen to you, but is has also happened at other boliches and isn't anything unique to this place.

Monger514

12-16-06, 19:14

Manager's name is Daniel and he speaks perfect English.

Geo Eye

12-17-06, 13:58

They do this mostly to tourist. Thinking they are only in town for a few days. I would go back and talk to them, again make sure you point out who did give you the change. This happens alot, I am telling you, many of the Argentine people are very dishonest, especially the ones in the world of booz, strippers and hookers. You MUST ALWAYS BE ON THE DEFENSIVE.

Thomaso276

12-17-06, 21:55

While I agree about the dishonesty, it is not limited to Argentina. People in the booze, strippers and hooker business are the same all over the world. Not exactly the most upstanding citizens on the planet so we should always be on guard.

Combo

12-18-06, 23:12

Thomaso276 - Exactly! Doesn't matter which country you're in. You're not exactly dealing with the upper crust of Argentina society.

Master J

12-19-06, 00:52

I have been waiting to post this story and this seems to be most appropriate time to do so. I was not sure how to read it myself, basically a liberal, no profiling, but have limits.

I was on a business trip to Puerto Rico and after spending 3 days with my sales rep we go to lunch in Buenos Ayres a restaurant in PR. I had been speaking broken Spanish to his customers and it came up that I had an Argentinan girlfriend for two years.

Over lunch he tells me that he was in business with an Argenitinan and the business was going great in partnership in Venezuela. He was doing the distributing and the Argie was doing the sales. Yada Yada after some time the Argie says he going down there to see the clients and all is good. Bottom line the customer is running slow on payments and my great guy in PR is worried for 6 figures. SO you guess the rest, he goes down and the Venezuelan company says thay have been paying the other guy with proof. More bottom line the guy has to sell his house to pay the bank and it is bad from there.

Years later he hire a salesman guess from where and the guy turns out to be good salesman. One day he says he is going to go to jail for some money he owes and my guy sign a voucher for the guy since he is working out so well. You got it out of the 15 he gets three and the guy disapears.

Summary for me. The guy in PR is a prince so please do not bash him. Guys like him have character, I have seen it. I guess the ingredient I am looking for is character. Is it in BA or as I believe a large city no different from NY, LA, where you always got to watch your back? Here more so because it is an away game. I gues we say this could happen anywhere, but if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, guess what. These Muther f &^%$&%& ers at Black are not just happy enough to rip for 15 and 25 drinks, they want to jam it in a little more. I got mine from the bald barman last time. I like the place and always have fun, but I don't get it.

Thomaso276

12-19-06, 01:10

Make your money in the USA, never loan anhyone, especially a foreigner cash.

Kinda like paying up front, there is no postive aspect to it.

Fedora

12-19-06, 12:17

Took out Silviana twice. Short, fake blond, fake breasts, but very cute body and perfect ass. She loves it up the ass. Great bbbj. Stays for as long as you want. Not really young, maybe 30 - but her body is perfect. She extremely friendly, dfk, whatever you want. Has cool tattoo of dancer on her stomach. I recommend her.

However, I should point out that I took her from lack of better alternatives. It was late and didn't want to prowl around any more. Not sure she's worth 600. More generally, on this visit Black was a disappointment. Not better than Madahos, and given the price difference, it seems a waste of money to go there (even if the money doesn't make a big difference to me – given my relatively short stay.

One important reason why Black is not so good: no dark skinned girls at Black. I don't really like fake blonds and I don't to South America for Caucasian girls. So, Blacks is not that good for me.

This, by the way, was observed by Hunt99, in an earlier post he says: "One thing to remember - they don't hire any girls except Caucasian ones here. Mulatas, Indianas, or Africans are non-existent."

Thomaso276

12-19-06, 13:52

Who is worth 600 pesos?

Fedora

12-19-06, 19:49

Who is worth 600 pesos?If you're going back to London the next day where same quality piece of ass is 1500 pesos, then it's a pretty good investment.

In general, it makes much more sense for people who live in BA for a long time to be careful about overpaying. It's rational: you can get same quality ass cheaper in a couple of days. It makes much less sense for visitors. It's irrational for visitors to not fuck someone because she's overpriced by 150 pesos, when next day, that quality girl will cost three times as much.

Punter 127

12-19-06, 20:26

If you're going back to London the next day where same quality piece of ass is 1500 pesos, then it's a pretty good investment.

In general, it makes much more sense for people who live in BA for a long time to be careful about overpaying. It's rational: you can get same quality ass cheaper in a couple of days. It makes much less sense for visitors. It's irrational for visitors to not fuck someone because she's overpriced by 150 pesos, when next day, that quality girl will cost three times as much.I'd say she was overpriced by 300 to 400 pesos, perhaps more.

Jazz Doc

01-05-07, 02:09

I had her last year about this time. She was really good, Brown hair, eyes, not skiinny, but well proportioned. She spoke fairly good English, and had a great personality. I'm going to be back Sat. Anyone have any experience with her?

Captain9026

01-24-07, 05:36

I just walked this chica to the door after 5 hours of her rocking my world. She is a thin Blonde that has a really tight shape perfect skin and boob job. I had to look her over for while because she walks around with her ass stuck out (not in a good way) but I later found out it is because of the high heels. Once out of them she was total playboy material. Three shots all positions, BBBJ, Daty with heavy coolo fingering I think she would have done completo. I have had a few chicas since I have been here including Juliana and Pia at legallmentosbella and the famous Ayi who tells you she needs new shoes and a new cell phone new shirt, and this chica hands down blows them away. I let here check her email on my computer and while she was on I had her send me an email with a promise for pics. I will post when she sends them. Got the digits and have to get some more of this before I go back to US.

OK and before anyone throws the bullshit flag on my Ayi adventure, she came back for one day of personal business and Roxanna hooked me up. Nothing new to say about her she is just like the reports and cuter than her photos but she needs to give the "I need new shit" gig a rest.

Thanks Roxanna.

Daddy Rulz

01-24-07, 11:15

WhiteCat

01-24-07, 13:06

I saw her on her off day too and besides asking for her "60 minutes of Magic", she gave me her wish list of things she needs. Besides that a good experience and alot of fun. Just finished 2 from Clarin for $60.00 each. This place is too much!

Captain9026

01-24-07, 14:17

I don't think she had a unicorn on her hip. She is so tone and fit. You can tell that she works out like a fiend and goes to the solarium. There were a few other girls in there that I had conversations with it seemed at this hour the starting bid was U$200 For TLN. It was pretty easy to pull them down from there as there must have been over 50 chicas in there for 20 guys and I am sure many girls went home empty.

Daddy Rulz

01-25-07, 11:30

Sheesh do I have a pathetic life, the first entity to wish me happy be-day was the ISG!

Well anyway, went to Black for my be-day and did my Anabela, with the unicorn on the hip. Paid too much money (just can't bring myself to type how much but it was the asking price, YIKES) and had too much fun. Shes without a doubt my all time favorite. If you like tits on a stick shes your girl.

Couple of changes, no bbbj and she wanted the money up front. She remembered me from the past, remembered the hotel, remembered my old job and I had never paid up front before. Made an exception as service has always been great. Didn't regret it as the only change in service was cbj. She does seem to be getting a little harder though, shes been in the biz for sometime now so I reckon it's to be expected.

Probably won't repeat again unless it's my birthday or I hit the lottery as Black is just unsupportable on my budget, but man can that girl fuck.

ICantFukEnough

01-25-07, 13:41

No one knows better than you what to give yourself for your birthday. I am happy for you. I like your expression Tits on a Stick. How was the place was it full was there more girls than guy or the other way around. I have to go back because I meet nice girls in Black yes it is a bit more and paying more is not a problem it is getting your money's worth that is if Peneloppe Cruz would ask me 50,000 to fuck her I would pay it because I know she is worth it but if a beaten up chick ask me for 300p I think I am getting rip off there lies my problem. I always looks for the Classy type of girl something that stand out in the crowd and try to get my money's worth. Once again hope your time here will be your best birthday present.

Hunt99

01-25-07, 13:43

Daddy Rulz

01-25-07, 15:01

DR,

It would be helpful if you told us how much you paid and for how long. Few mongers partake of the buffet at Black every night, but would nevertheless want to know how much it costs.

Interesting that you paid the "asking price." Sometimes the little head really does the thinking, doesn't it? We've all been there (and those who claim they haven't been there are lying)The value monger splurged on his B-day and paid every bit of 600 yes 600 pesos. Must admit it was a combination of big and little head thinking. This was my 3rd cita with her, first time 300 three years ago, second time 450 and this time 600. It was early, there was not a ton of girls present and a fair amount of guys with Rolexes or psudo Rolexes. On another night perhaps I could have gotten her for 400 but didn't see it happening last night given the conditions.

In ref to the asking price, there was an offered price 1st and she just wasn't having anything to do with it. In the past she was usually willing to bargain a little. This makes two in a row at Black that have not bargained a centavo. I'm thinking that perhaps their mind set is if I can get two or three a week why fuck more. Another interesting thing, I didn't have any change for a cab (yes I know at 600 pesos she can pay for her own cab) When I offered to share one and have it drop her off at Black first, figuring it was 2:45 and she would be going back, She said she wasn't returning.

3 hours and as always she didn't fail to deliver anything I wanted. I fucked everything she had and she got me off three times in 3 hours. She absolutly has me dialed in. Shes just what I look for, tits on a stick, total hard body. Could have a little prettier face but certainly not lacking. Waist length blonde hair. Likes to talk during rest periods and is smart as well as pretty. If I could afford it I would have a pretty steady diet. Plus she digs chicks as well, we were talking about before leaving the club and there are a few she is pretty into.

I'm sure I won't see her until my next birthday, just can't afford it. Sol the little Paraguyan at Hook is 150 and is just as eager to please, not as pretty and doesn't have the boobs but shes certainly pretty enough and prolly more enthusiastic.

I really can't imagine anybody with the wallet to support it having a bad time with Anabel, look for the girl with the unicorn on her hip.

Nemesis

01-27-07, 19:37

I think Jackson's tip sheet has to be updated to reflect the new chica drink prices of $80.00 ARS a pop.

Same thing with Shampoo where I made sure to verify that price quote three times before buying a chica drink.

Inflation seems rampant in BA these days.

These new drink prices are making chica negotiations more difficult. If you are prepared to pay $80.00 ARS for a drink what's wrong with paying $400.00 ARS for my pussy, they argue.

Member #3314

03-02-07, 13:08

I went here last night for the first time. I wanted to see if these chica's were worth the 600 pesos I heard was the going rate.

40p to get in and a drink.

There were a shitload of chicas in here, probably 60. But the quality was ranging from a 40 year old trailer park looking skank to playboy quality. There were way more on the lower end of the scale. Plus this place is so dark its hard to see what your getting.

There were 3 stunner's in there that I tried to take home. I lost two with the requirement of BBBJ. The other would not negotiate until I bought her a drink, big no no in my book.

I was trying to spend my money here but I left with it in my pocket. This place is just average in my opinion. Not worth the money. This was the first time I had been here and I was looking for a trophy fuck on my last night here.

Fedora

03-07-07, 16:09

Alan23

03-07-07, 18:03

What has happened? Why both the increase in price and the lowering of quality? The Argentinean economy is in better shape, so there are more and better paid jobs for beautiful women, but shouldn't the tripling of prices (eg at Black) outweigh that effect?Allow me to answer your last question first: The improvement of the Argentine economy has NOTHING to do with the availability of "beautiful women" in the price range you speak about. These women at 600 pesos per night are making triple or possibly four times of what a female doctor, lawyer, or engineer make. They will never - repeat never - go back to a traditional occupation, mentally and educationally an impossibility. By the same token you are unable to head back to London without partaking in some overpriced punda; they are unable to break with fast and relatively-easy money for an ordinary job with ordinary hours. So your lack of raving beauties may be laid to the fact that THEY only need to work 2-3 nights per week, as opposed to the 5-6 nights - to meet their insatiable appetites for material goods (as we know they are not founding their retirement fund) You and your fellow "high-end" spenders may have temporarily impeded the supply chain. Don't worry, this will eventually correct itself. In 6 more months the "less beautiful" girls will have spent time in the gym, and at the make-up counters, and in the plastic surgeon's office.

Based on your posts of Dec. 12, 2006 - is all of this not clear to you? You tell us it would be "irrational" to NOT overpay for pussy in BA, when the going rate is so much higher in London. Using your logic, would it not be "rational" to pay 1000, or even 1200 peso - just think that is £50 pounds cheaper than at home! I think you have become a victim of your own buying power, having a fist full of pounds is a dangerous thing. Why do so many want to turn this place into their home country? This is NOT London, this is NOT Europe, and it sure the fuck is not the USA. You have overpaid long enough to have the local girls believing they are worth 930 Pesos, 300 USD, or 150 Pounds. So be it.

I do not understand the mentality of wanting to import one's culture, standards, and norms - when you know it will eventually destroy the exact situation you so much enjoy.

Do not take this as a personal attack, it is not. For the rest of you pound-holding-blokes, you can keep your knickers out of a knot as well.

Hunt99

03-07-07, 19:10

I'm giving up on Black. Used to love this place, but it has really changed.

-Yesterday, I talked to a girl who would not negotiate down from 300usd. When I asked if that price would let me fuck her for 2 hours, she said 'no way'. Then I should get a second girl.

-Prices at Black have trippeled over the last 3 years, but the quality of girls has gone way down. A 300usd girl in Black is no longer any better looking than a 300usd girl in NY. They used to be stunning compared to working girls in NY or London. The top 10% of Black girls used to be almost impossible to find in places like NY. Not anymore. Now they are like girls from a cheap NY escort agency.

What has happened? Why both the increase in price and the lowering of quality? The Argentinean economy is in better shape, so there are more and better paid jobs for beautiful women, but shouldn't the tripling of prices (eg at Black) outweigh that effect?I don't think prices have "tripled" here over the past three years. Some girls were asking for 300 dollars an hour three years ago. If you don't believe me, go back and check the archives.

Quality ebbs and flows in this place and all the other ones in town. This is true not only on a yearly basis, but also from month-to-month and even from night-to-night.

The last chica I pulled out of here cost me about 300 pesos, or one-third of the price quoted to you last night. I know how to negotiate and know how to "move-on" when my first chica continues to demand too high a price.

Some girls would prefer to leave at the end of the night with 300 pesos - others would prefer nothing or 300 dollars, but will not settle for anything in between. And as always, the best of the best can charge the most.

Rock Harders

03-07-07, 19:45

Mongers,

The price situation at Black is a direct result of it positioning itself as the primary "tourist trap" hooker club in Buenos Aires. The concierge at the Alvear Palace, Four Seasons, Park Hyatt and Faena all send their horny clientel to Black. The rise in tourism, combined with the improved economy (meaning there are more businessmen in town staying in 5 star hotels with money to spend) and the increasing international exposure that Buenos Aires has been receiving combine to feed a steady diet of new blood to Black. Almost no matter what you say to a girl at this place, if you are from Europe or the USA they are going to equate you to all the other gringos that roll in and pay $200-$300 USD and will likely accept no less than that amount.

The good news is that there is absolutely no reason for anyone to ever waste their time in Black. I do not know any expats living in Buenos Aires that go to Black and pay the ridiculous prices. As I have stated in earlier posts, I have scewed two different girls that both work at Black, both gotten for $150 AR. If somebody wants guarenteed top end girls and wants to spend some money, go to Madahos and pay $300 AR ($400 AR with drinks) that is the absolute ceiling for what any resident would pay down here.

Suerte,

Dirk Diggler

Big Bob 7

03-07-07, 19:59

That a boy Dirk. Start sending those clowns over to Madahos where they can really pay for some fine VIP poon. Should I just go ahead and copy and paste some of the complaints from this thread in the Madahos thread now or do you want to wait 6 months until the Madahos regulars start complaining about how all of the chicks won't leave for less than 400 pesos.

Monger514

03-07-07, 20:25

... until the Madahos regulars start complaining about how all of the chicks won't leave for less than 400 pesos.Oh, that's coming all right.

Bandy

03-07-07, 20:50

I rarely post these days, simply because I have nothing new to add. However, I am planning to visit again this May, and I am very worried that my favorite hunting place is getting quite out of my price range (or may be not!)

I never paid more than 300 AR for TLN here (last visit May '06) and I would like to keep it that way. I even negotiated for other people. I found that negotiations in Black are much easier to do than that in Madahos.

Now, I must admit that I am going to BsAs for many years and I am willing to walk away when my price is not met. So for first timers, with limited knowledge in Spanish, and heart is all set for a Black chica, pay whatever you want and get it over with. I will never criticize anybody for paying any amount of money. As long as you enjoy the encounter, in my book, it's all worth it. And you are not pissing in anybody's pond by paying high price to a Black or Madaho chica. However, I would not pay more than 300 AR for a multi-hour session. I will simply call it a night, stop by Newport, make some small talk with other chicas, make a low-ball offer of 120 AR and willing to go home empty handed. And this is only possible, because I am not hungry!

So here are my suggestions. Pick a night for going to Black. I usually go Wednesday or Thursday night. Do a cheap session with a privado, cafe, or similar chica, early in the evening. You are no longer hungry! At my age, you might even feel a little tired. Go to Black around 1 AM. Prepare to nurse your drink (free with your entrance) for two hours. I am not a drinker, so I take a glass of coke and hold it as my passport for being there.

At this point, you will feel that your attitude has changed. All those beautiful chicas, no longer look that pretty. You start finding faults with all of them (you are in fact building up a solid defense mechanism within yourself, in case you have to walk away). Make a few mental notes of some prospective candidates (in my case never more than two or three I like on a given night). Do not start any dealing before 2 AM. I even wait close to 2:30 AM. Just enjoy the show until then.

At this point, you start with your negotiations. If they say, 200 USD.....my come back line is always-- "for a week?" So you walk away. This part is up to you. I still do all my dealings in Spanish which gives me some edge and I go from there.

By 3:00 AM, there is a mad rush sets in among chicas. The reality of going home alone became quite apparent. Last trip, I saw within 15 minutes, most of the chairs became empty. The girls, who were not willing to come down 15 minutes ago, were asking me for my final offer. It was a scene to behold. I had seen many deals being made even at 250 AR. However, I have my own problem. So if the girls I was interested in initially are no longer available (either already taken or holding down the price) I simply leave (as I said before, I am no longer hungry). If you can do that, you will be a great negotiator next time around. And in a way, the chicas will respect you.

I had many candid conversations with many Black chicas in the past. By now, I know lots of them. I see them every year. Rosie, still asks me, how come I never had a session with her. I hug her and whisper in her ear that she is still confusing "peso" with "dollar". Sometimes, I get angry and tell them why they were bullshitting me with 600 Peso, They know, I will never pay that. One of the girls finally admitted that there are lots of newbies willing to pay that amount.

Year before last, I saw two girls, who were head and shoulder above the general quality of the chicas there. I have no qualms, if anybody pays, some unusually high amount for them (I believe it was 300 USD). I talked to them for a long time, complimented them for their beauty and told in no uncertain terms that I know they are worth the price they are asking. Although, I could afford it, but I will not pay this obscene amount. These kids were round tripping by the hour!

Black is still my favorite club, I hope I feel the same way after my next visit in May.

Bandy

Daddy Rulz

03-07-07, 22:36

Oh, that's coming all right.Was in there with a guy a few weeks ago and the cheapest counter offer was 450. I know a little later, with more effort less can be had but that was what happened.

Fedora

03-07-07, 22:45

Thanks for some excellent feedback. What I was really puzzled about was what happened to all the super-gorgeous women I seem to remember at Black 4-5 years ago. If prices really have tripled, why doesn't that motivate more super-beautiful women to work at Black? You would think that when prices go up that much, this would start looking like a fairly attractive career. I, for one, have to admit that I'd be happy, delighted, overjoyed, to pay 300 dollars for a Naomi Campbell, but there doesn't seem to be any of them around.

Some proposed answer: 1) I have poor memory; they weren't that much better looking in the past. That's possible, maybe sentimentality colours memories of first visits to BA. That's very possible; they were never that gorgeous. 2) Prices have not really tripled and the increase in prices is not large enough to attract new job candidates. Well, maybe, it's probably impossible to know since we have no statistics on these things, but isn't it pretty clear that there's a fairly significant price increase? Lots of the comments on Black seem to support that, but it could be some kind of illusion. 3) It's a natural cycle; girls come and go. True, but if so, why wouldn't a lot of them come now that they can make 300usd for a 2-hour fuck? 4) Lots of them go abroad. But again, shouldn't it be less reason for going abroad now, compared to earlier, if they can make 300usd per hour at Black? 5) The very best looking ones are 'kept women'. Maybe.

I guess a combination of 1) and 2) are the best explanations.

Another option is some kind of cultural shift that would make this kind of career less attractive. I have no idea whether something like that has happened.

El Perro

03-07-07, 23:16

Not to point out the obvious, but if you want to pay the big money, there are plenty of chicas at Black to take it, AND if you are conversant in castellano, don't mind some bargaining, and are not averse to staying out late, the same chicas will take a smaller amount. There may be some exceptions of course. Doesn't seem like rocket science to dumb ol Doggboy. Then again, I have been there ONCE, I don't speak castellano worth shit, and I like to be in the sack by 3 at the latest. Just reading the tea leaves.:)

Hunt99

03-08-07, 12:08

Good commentary in this thread of late. Fedora, I have long observed that the first trip to BsAs tends to be the overwhelming visual and sexual experience, that every time you visit after that, everything seems to be getting worse and worse. This phenomenon has a long history on the board, and I have fallen victim to it myself on occasion.

It's possible I may be in London on business soon, and yesterday I was doing some looking around to see what might be available in the P4P area. 300 dollars will get me an hour with a hooker that looks like Exon. Brrrrrr.

Exon123

03-08-07, 13:31

Well it won't be me, I charge considerably more that $300, with No Completeo or BBBJ.

Exon.

CockSucker

Hunt99

03-08-07, 16:15

Well it won't be me, I charge considerably more that $300, with No Completeo or BBBJ.

Exon.

CockSuckerWhat are you doing on here? Don't you have a trout to abuse or something? I thought the coast was clear to insult you behind your back!

OMGHereICome

03-09-07, 00:38

So I guess what you all are saying is that Blacks is over priced and to have 1 beer is ok. But stick to the other clubs?

I hear all the girls in London look like Exon. OMG. Id leave the country.

JK.

All the best. I will be on my way March 12. First timer.

Any tips appreciated.

Regards.

Alex

Moore

03-09-07, 04:09

It's possible I may be in London on business soon, and yesterday I was doing some looking around to see what might be available in the P4P area. 300 dollars will get me an hour with a hooker that looks like Exon. Brrrrrr.The escort services will charge way more than that. But go to some of the places that are advertised on flyers in phone booths all around town. They are usually apartments with a few chicas, some hot hidden gems, often from E or even S Europe. I banged a nice Italian one close to the Gloucester Road tube station for £100 which ain't bad considering London prices. It was a good session/apt, I was pleasantly surprised.

Toymann

03-09-07, 06:33

Hello All,

Have we all lost our minds? You are trying to compare some 100 eruo Ho to what is available in BA. Lets get real for a second! Although I have been mostly quiet on this board, I just can't let this pass! I have mongered all over the us and europe the past 5 years. Lets set the record straight! In nevada, you can have a porn star experience for 250 US if you are smart! In europe, the same is true. However, in BA I can get a threesome (PSE w / toys) TWICE for this price! I have already set up two such appointments for my upcoming trip (350 pesos all in for two PSE Ho's) to BA, have we all have gone mad? Furhermore, the latin women are absolutely totally HOT! If you just email a few pro's and follow the advice on this board you will not be dissapointed in BA! This will be my fourth trip to Ba in the last year and though I should have posted most of my experiences, I have NOT. I will begin on my next trip. I plan to give KG a run for his money for "rookie" of the year award (I already have on my last 10 day trip but let my shyness get the beter of me - no posts) This forumn is GREAT and I have used many posts to set up my upcoming encounters (many thanks to BadBoy. Your posts absolutely ROCK!). Enough said. But please! Lets be real! Europe vs BA. No competiton. Ar Ho's Rock. Period. My two cents. Toymann

Fedora

03-09-07, 09:24

Just to make one thing clear: I was just talking about quality of girls in Black, and, as I said, that I'm giving up on the place. I'm not giving up on BA. Every time I come here I meet some unbelievable girls that for very little money provide service far beyond anything I know how to find in the US or Europe. Just this last trip I have met two girls that have completely blown my mind. They practially move in and I pay them very very little. In addition, BA is fantastic city. None of the the other good mongering places in the world can compare to BA. So it's a prefect combination.

Flexible Horn

03-09-07, 14:05

I hear all the girls in London look like Exon. OMG. I'd leave the country.

AlexWhen guys on the board ask where all the 9s and 10s have gone, try LONDON. Agency's have many Argentinian girls on their books charging from £250 upwards an hour.

You have to go where you can earn the dough!

FH

Moore

03-10-07, 00:31

Have we all lost our minds? You are trying to compare some 100 eruo Ho to what is available in BA.It was only pointed out that there is at least some decent p4p available in London at reasonable prices for London if one happens to be stuck in London. That has nothing whatsoever to do with the BsAs scene.

Wayne Will

03-22-07, 23:42

Wednesday a week ago I went to Black after wasting a half hour at Salome. I had heard much about Black's and wanted to see it for myself. I arrived there about 12:45 am and it was loaded with lot's of chicas. Some very hot, some just ok. I think the chicas at Madaho's may be better looking, but it's very close. I was walking in by myself when I overheard two guys speaking in english. What great luck I thought, so I asked them if they are from the USA, they said yes, so we hung out for the next hour. The thing that struck me about Black was how all the chicas were staring us down. I said to one of the guys, I now know what it feels like to be hot chick in a bar in the States, with every guy staring at you, except here all the chicas are staring at us. These guys were on business for 3 days and each night they had come down to Black's and left with a girl. We started talking about chica experiences and told them about ArgentinaPrivate which they had never heard off.

Anyway on to the girl. One of the guys had his girl for the night hanging with him and he mentioned that she had a friend across the bar. The "friend" had walked by me earlier and she was petite and small and very attractive, which is my type. So I walked closer to where she was hanging with 4 other chicas and motioned her over to me. She came over and I immediately asked if she would be interested for 300 pesos for a hour. She hardly spoke any english and I speak very little spanish. She wanted me to buy her a drink first and I said no that I wanted her to agree to a price. I let this conversation go for about 30 seconds and then I said ciao and left her and went back to were my "new friends" were standing. Within 2 minutes she came over to me with another chica who could speak more english and this girls said 300 was ok. It is amazing how the price drops as the night progresses (It's now 2am)

I have to thank you guys on this forum for teaching me some very good negotiating tactics. Thanks!

Monica must be about 21 - 22, very young looking and she is from Paraquay. I had heard good things about Paraquaian (sic) girls so I was very interested. She is about 4' 11'' and dark hair and eyes, about c cups that are totally natural. I found her to be more attractive than Priscilla which I talked about in my other review. She has a scar on her right cheek. Monica is like the girl next door but extremely petite and extremely cute with a nice set of tits. Perfect! Anyway her friend who was really looking out for her asked me if I was solo. She asked this because I told Monica I wanted to take back to my apartment and I guess they didn't want me taking back for a gang bang or something. That shit must happen a lot! Yea I told her I was solo. So we are getting comfortable while she is nursing her drink and I finally convinced her to leave with me. So far, 50 peso entry fee, and 80 peso chica drink.

As we are leaving Black she tells me to tip the guy who is following us out the door. His job is to get us a taxi. Is this normal? I open my wallet and I have one "dos peso" note and three "cien peso" notes. Oh Shit! I showed the guy what I had and he said no problem and closed the taxi door for us.

Wayne Will

03-23-07, 00:32

Now I'm thinking how am I going to pay this damn taxi driver. I have heard ripoff stories about these taxi drivers. So I stupidly ask Monica if she has change and of course she doesn't. As we are driving back to my apartment I notice the fricking driver never turned on his clock. Fuck! That is one of their tricks. So I complain and to him and he pretends that either he can't understand me or that the clock is broken. I don't know what the fuck he is saying. I have got to learn Spanish! It's now 2:45am so I decide to not get into a huge argument with the guy. We get to my apartment on Baez street and ask him how much and he says 20 pesos which I know is too high. It should have been 12-14 pesos. After some bickering between him and me I hand him my cien note and he hands me back 80 pesos in change. I figure fuck it, it's only 6-8 pesos that he is screwing me out of. I'm pretty sure the change was not counterfit which was my other concern.

Monica and I go up to my apartment and I notice she is almost looking around, almost like to see if there is anyone else there. After she realizes it's just her and me she relaxes and I get us something to drink. She then reiterates that she is only staying for one hour.

This girl was a total GFE, we were making out look school kids. It was great. So we go upstairs to the bed and she goes into the bathroom to get ready and she comes out with one of the big towels and proceeds to stand on the bed and do a strip tease for me with the towel. When that towel came off I new I had hit the jackpot with this chica. She had the most adorable petite body, with beautiful natural c-cup tits and a nice ass and kitty and the softest skin. Wow!

She starts kissing and licking my dick and rubbing it all over her tits. She was not a seasoned pro but more like an amature who had just started as a working girl. She told me she had been at black's for 6 months and working girl for a year. Then she put on the condom with hands and mouth and started the blow job. It was not the best I ever had but I would give her and A for effort. She then jumped on top and started banging me. Within 5 minutes she started moaning like she was having an orgasm. Except that I thought, at the time, that she was overdoing this "fake orgasm" moaning. Well I wasn't finished, so we went to missionary then doggie and then my favorite position (her laying face down and me on top) We did that for quite a while until I was sweating and I finally came. The next thing she did surprised me, right after I finished while her face was still in the pillows she raised her left arm up and pointed up two fingers. She was announcing her second orgasm. It was then that I realized the first orgasm was real. Pretty cool I thought!

Well we had such a good time cuddling and talking that she hung out until 5am. We didn't go for a round two only because I was spent. She ended up staying for 2 hours not just the one. She had a fantastic romantic attitude that turned out to be exactly what I was looking for that night.

She gave me two different phone numbers to call her with, but when I tried two times to call them, I heard some spanish recording which I didn't understand. Damn, I really wanted to see Monica for a second round, but it never happend.

If you are interested I can PM her numbers to you. I'm really pissed that I forgot to take her picture.

This little girl was a real gem. She made me feel 21 all over again. This was the only girl on the whole trip that made me feel that way and I saw some hotties.

Hunt99

03-23-07, 07:18

Well played, Wayne. Your post demonstrates precisely how a new guy can enjoy himself at this club, if only he does a little homework first. I have frankly grown tired of the many posts in which poster which complain about asking prices, but fail to respond accordingly. Your experience is a road map which they should follow.

One tip your post also highlights - keep breaking 100 peso notes, and keep a large supply of small bills available all the time. They'll be necessary for taxis, tips, small purchases, etc.

Daddy Rulz

03-23-07, 15:32

Shit that Cocksuker has never even been here.

What you need to do is always be breaking those hundreds into smaller bills, you need them for Taxis, tips and other small purchases, etc.

Oh by the way, great job with the girl, shows what a sharp negotiator can do when supplied with good info.

I've had the same problem with Taxi drivers, I ask them to turn on the meter and if they don't I give them two pesos.

Geo Eye

03-23-07, 16:07

It is truely unreal what these taxi drivers do. Most of them are scam artists.

I speak english and spanish and when I go into speaking spanish they treat me diffrently than when I speak their language. Once again the people are very dishonest.

BundaLover

03-24-07, 23:28

Good posts WayneWill thanks for the updates. Now Exon can call me cheap. Blacks was 50+80, taxi and pussy was 320 for total of 450pesos for about 2 hours if I understand you correctly. You had the girl in bed starting at around 3 am. Call me stupid but you can avoid the smoke atmosphere and fuck your brains out at 1707 Santa Fe for about 100 pesos at normal hours. Has anybody fucked Exon yet? Was he worth 300+?

Daddy Rulz

03-25-07, 00:12

But not worth 300 P for sure, 60 or 80 maybe.

Teddybear

04-26-07, 07:50

Went here last night with a fellow monger. We arrived around 02:45 and there was a lot of beautiful talent available.

But the place was emptying fast. At 03:30 the place was empty. The men had left and the chicas had left and with them the girls I wanted.

So I talked to a petit girl with short black hair named Loudres and the kind of body I like. Nice firm petit ass and nice set of tetas, but she had bad breath. She was eager for me to buy her a drink but I refused and wanted to finish negotiations first.

She quoted med US$ 300 and I actually made her repeat to be sure about the quote. I told her no way and offered her AR 300. She just turned around and left.

Is any girl worth that kind of money? I think not in this country.

Exon123

04-26-07, 14:36

I was in Black with my friend Moe last trip.

Since I knew the door man "Heckor" admission was free, (though I did give him a 5 peso tip apon leaving) We spent nothing while we were in their approx 45 minutes reviewing Chica's. Monger drinks are $40 peso's.

Moe, possibly the cheapest Monger I've ever met, (and hornyest too) spoted a beautiful blond girl about 30 and was quoted $300 USD, (I'd of paid it in a second up here in sex prison) That number quickly changed to $300 peso's when Moe explained in Spanish that he was "Not" a tourist and owned an apartment in Buenos Aires.

She would not move on price and wanted us to buy her an $80 peso drink. Moe, "cheap skate fuck" that he is said no, and asked for her phone number.

Well to make the long story short, Moe called her durning the day sometime afterwards and now the price is $200 peso's. And has committed to Fuck for $200 peso's. Thats $66 dollars compared too $300 USD.

Thats the way you negoicate in the High End Clubs in Recoleta.

Exon

Teddybear

04-26-07, 15:24

My problem of course is that I do not have Moe's striking good looks, big Congreso apartment and fleet of limousines in combination with fluent Spanish and the company of handsome eloquent American mongers like Exon.

Rubiks Cube

05-07-07, 02:13

Hunt99

05-07-07, 10:48

Gentleman I am returning to BA in a few weeks and was wondering if the pricing is still the same at Black. I remember before that most girls wanted $200 US to leave with you. Is that still the case or is the post below true and the girls are now asking for $300? Will most everyone leave for $200? Before I get yelled at I know that others get better than $200 but that is what I pay with my level of spanish.

Any help would be appreciated.They will quote what they think they can get, and will settle for what you can negotiate. One tip: go armed with a pen and a note pad, and get the names and mobile numbers of chicas which suit your fancy. You will be able to get a large number of them to meet you for a daytime fuck at a fraction of the U$S200 rate you mention. Exon recently mentioned a strategy which is my usual modus operandi in these places too - I tend to do my drilling during the day, and use my evenings at these places as scouting expeditions.

Bandy

05-13-07, 00:50

Except when they work together in a boliche.

I kept Thursday night for my annual visit to Black. I met my girl Karen last year. From a distant I realised she is somewhat different. She became very confident. Last year I got her in her first few days of work. Now she knows how to work the rope. Actually, she looked the best in the boliche today. She gave me a kiss and wanted to give me discount as a former customer. 300 Peso for one hour. She became a 200 USD girl. I paid her 300 Peso for a 12 hour TLN last year. It was too much for me to swallow. I gave her a kiss and said goodbye. If anybody deserves 200 USD (not in my book) she was the only girl in the boliche could ask for it!

Danny was surprised. He was wondering whether some kind convention going on. Too many of us from the USA are at the boliche tonight. I was nursing my drink. Then met a couple of Brazillians. One of them, from the northern part of Brazil, was very sweet. I started coversing her with my portugese to break the ice. Things were going very well. She was willing to go for 300 Peso for 2 hours. We were about to order the drink. Then her idiot roommate / friend, ruined everything. She was forcing her to make me take both of them. I said no way! I quickly left. She had a helpless look on her face. Go room with a dyke!

I was furious. Stopped by Newport. Broke all ethicks of value. Took the Brazillera Canmilla and fucked my heart out!

Bandy

Charlie1983

06-24-07, 16:27

First time in Buenos Aires, and decided to stop by Black based on a suggestion from an old friend. The atmosphere was good, nice dancers and music. That's about where it stops.

Perhaps because several of the alternative places were closed because of some holiday, not quite sure what. Something about some election I think. But, I was quoted by three different girls (the best looking ones) that they wanted 300USD to go back to my apartment. Based off of browswing on this site yesterday before I went out, that place seems way out of line. My Spanish is limited, so it was difficult to negociate.

I finally met one girl who was 'average', definitely not as good looking as some previous girlfriends I have had in the past, and she began with 600Pesos, and I settled for 400Pesos, which I thought at that point was a fairly large change in price considering the first 3 girls want 300USD /1000Pesos.

The girl came back to my apartment which she stated that she would normally never do, and then she asked for the money up front, again not too big of a deal to me. After perhaps an hour long of decent / not great sex, she rushed off to the bathroom, and returned to the bedroom fully dressed and stated that she had to get going. Her additude that I thought was much better than the rest of the girl's at the club, disapeared as soon as the first session was over. I had assumed that 400 pesos would mean 3-4 good sessions over 6 hours. In my very limited Spanish I asked her what she was doing, and stated something along the lines that she what I gave her was not much and that she would need more to stay the whole night.

All in all, I am not used to the language barrier, and also as my first time in Buenos Aires, I was somewhat dissapointed.

I went to Black for the sole purpose of being able to walk around a bit, meet several girls, see who I liked, take her home, and then if I liked her, stick with her as my regular go-to girl, including dinner dates and so forth.

Was I robbed? Is this the normal additude in Black? Can any of you offer any suggestions for meeting a good go-to girl, no additude who enjoys dinner dates, spending over than 45 minutes before stating some lame excuse as to why she has to run off to go somewhere.

I will not return to Black that is for sure.

Flexible Horn

06-24-07, 17:01

The girl came back to my apartment which she stated that she would normally never do, and then she asked for the money up front, again not too big of a deal to me. Hi Charlie,

Every guy (who has mongered) reading your report as soon as they read the above part new the ending.

I'll wager a guess that it's stated a 100 times in all the treads, Don't pay before the deed, if they insist just open your door and say goodbye, many more fish in the sea.

MiddleAgeGuy

06-24-07, 21:09

Charlie1983,

I know what you are after and I don't think you can force it to happen if they do not want it to happen, I. E. Go to girl. While some may say negotiate every detail before you leave to your place, that might be asking for a pretty steep tab like filling your shopping cart, then when you get home you find it is half empty.

My approach, with no science behind it, is based on my preference for all nighters, but only if the chemistry is right. So I tend to make a deal with the ones I seem to get along with, let them know they can stay if they want to, (si quieres) Mention it again after the deed, at their election. Some simply cannot with babysitters, can't sleep except in their own bed, etc. Some just are not into it. I pay well, (read excessive to some, average for others) but I have never payed or been asked for more when they stay longer. Oh, also knowing the club hr / drink rules to make sure they do not have to go back or get a drink fine.

Btm line, mostly all nighters, some longer then I want as I have other things to do, and these girls know how to sleep when they get comfortable.

Now a little help please. Went to Black about a month ago showing a newbie. Very pretty Peruvian came up and I got her number then lost it, name like Cristina I think. I think she spoke some english also. Anyone with experience or know her number? I would desperatly not want to pull her out of Black because I can't afford the drinks and general cost structure for an all nighter.

MAG

Esten

07-07-07, 19:01

Stopped in to Black the other day with an amigo. Place was half full at 11:30pm and close to 3/4 full by 12:30am. Maybe 60 girls and 40 guys. Girls generally in the 7-9 range with a few real hotties and a few milfs for variety. High percentage of big chests here relative to other clubs. I don't mind that. As usual lots of eye contact being exchanged.

Chatted with a couple girls briefly. Saw a hottie dancing seductively 10 feet away and giving me the eye. I motioned her over and we chatted some. Her name was Adriana. About 5'3, light brown / dirty blond straight hair, impressive DD (implants but soft) slim waist. Maybe mid-twenties. I think she's portena. An 8.5 for me. Bought her a 80p drink. Chatted some more then began negotiations. I started by telling her my limit was 400p and she laughed a little. She explained her usual price was 600p. I held firm. After a couple minutes she accepted the 400p. For about 90min. I was quite pleased I got this deal on my first try. However - she then added I would have to buy a second drink at 80p. Totally caught me off guard. Never heard of this before. She said it was the rules. I excused myself for a minute and went to do a bit of research. One hostess confirmed it was the rule, a couple of other people I got some fuzzy answers from. Came back and told Adriana OK. My amigo also struck the exact same deal with another girl (400p plus 2 drinks 80p / ea) Adriana and I were soon off to my hotel.

Adriana has a hot slim body and is very service oriented in a good way. Accomodated all my requests. Light kissing. I asked her what she likes and she would only respond it's what I like. Danced and stripped to a few songs for me, making sure I was at full attention as my clothes also came off. Serviced me with various requests, then fucked in several positions. To finish I lay back on a chair while she knelt in front and slowly tittyfucked me with her breasts, up and down. After 5-10 minutes I let loose with two powerful shots which, without going into too much detail, were very messy for me and the furniture. Incredible. She stayed about 1h20. This was more a 'hottie rocks my world' session than GFE. I would highly recommend this girl.

Esten

07-07-07, 19:12

If anyone has any intel on the chica drink policies in Black, please post. Did I get hit for 2 drinks because the negotiated time was more than the standard hour? I heard the girls get 50% of each drink. One male staff member said the number of drinks depends on your negotiating skills. He mentioned there's a 120p drink and a 160p drink also. I hope the reason in my case is because of the 90min, and that this doesn't apply for strictly 1-hour sessions.

Monger514

07-08-07, 13:30

I do not believe there is a 2-drink rule; I have never bought more than one drink for a girl, though perhaps the rules have changed.

More likely, she made you buy her a second drink because you got her down to 400 pesos. By Black standards, you still actually did quite well.

[Edit]

Of course, if you go to a staff member and ask him or her if there is a rule that you have to buy a girl two drinks, it's pretty obvious you've just been told that by a girl, and there may be reluctance on the part of the staff member to contradict that (or, in general, discourage you from buying more drinks).

Member #4112

07-16-07, 05:43

Went by Black this evening and the ratio was really bad, more dicks than chicks. The two I talked to were asking US$200 each for one hour. Sat down at the bar and noticed the girl next to me but did not start up a conversation for about 30 minutes and she never attempted to either, just smiled when I looked her way.

Pretty attractive blond with long hair very fair and a C rack. Valeria and I chatted for a while and she was not pushy about asking for a drink, when we got down to numbers she started with the same US$200 for an hour. Switched the currency to Pesos and started over. Got to $400 for two hours and the bar fine was only one drink at midnight.

Took her back to the apartment and it was a great natural C rack. Started at the door, moved to the couch, the floor finally got to the bed after an hour. Covered BJ, vocal, multiple positions, did not ask for cola since she got all I had before I could get there. After 2 1/2 hours she changed shoes, put on street cloths, left her number caught a taxi and went home not back to the club.

Tried to get photos but she did not want any. Would repeat. Probably got the lower price since it was Sunday, if you can consider $400 low. No problem on the single drink either. All in all not a bad ride at all.

BadMan

08-08-07, 07:24

I would suggest Madahos regulars give Black another try. With the rising prices at Madahos, Black is looking more and more attractive to me. There are more girls, less guys and the prices, if you can believe it are becoming cheaper than Madahos. The quality of the girls is also alot better. Much more 8's in here and the majority are solid 7.5's.

Entrance remains the same at 40 pesos and is cheaper than Madahos,

Chica drink prices are the same at 80 pesos.

The main difference is at Madahos, girls will try to charge you 600 pesos for an hour and if you want a TLN you have to pay the club 3 drinks on top of what you pay the girl. Black is much more practical. The girls don't have to come back, You pick up a young honey at 1 am, you pay for one drink. And if you pay the 600 AR, you keep her all night or until at least 5-6 in the morning. And the girls aren't pressured to return to the club.

The only thing that is somewhat unsettling to me is, since the girls can't just walk up and talk to you, you end up feeling like a piece of meat with all the girls staring at you like their only meal ticket.

Have fun,

Bad

Monger514

08-08-07, 15:02

Rock on, Bad. I like Black!

Miami Bob

08-11-07, 06:05

Both Jackson and Bad Boy say Blacks is back in the running.

OK, it's time to go and see for myself. I went Friday night, Saturday morning 2am. I have not slept 4 hours in the last 36 hours--too pooped to pop. This was a scouting trip.

I was very surprised: Luis at the door let me in without the cover. I told him that I had not been to Blacks in 4 years, I was there because Jackson told me to look inside.

There is a higher concentration of 8's + than the other clubs. After a 20 minute walk around, I selected a solid 9 in my book, just to talk and get info--too pooped to pop. I was seriously over tired--having trouble in english much less spanish. The young lady was charming and thought my too tired routine was my form negotiating--she went from 600 pesos to 400 peso for 2 hours. When I still was not ready to leave with her-- At 3:30am I heard 300 pesos for one hour of message with a bbbj relax and she wanted me to have her cel number for another day when I had more energy.

Blacks' chicas are becoming more flexible. This woman was very. Very. Very hot looking. 5'5", 115, c breasts, tight curvey body with a cover girl face--an "A" girl anywhere in the world. There just were not enough guys spending money and too many girls asking for US$200. The laws of supply and demand eventually swing into action. Everyone of the chicas is asking us$200 and not enough guys are paying the asking price. The results of this scouting mission:

Hot desireable girls for 400 pesos for 2 hours with 50 pesos
Cover and 80 peso drink.

Under the current house policies at the two other recoleta high end clubs--if the chica is not back in 90 minutes, a second drink fee kicks in that either the customer or the chica pays. The Blacks pricing in many situations is the same or, for longer sessions, cheaper than the competition. Blacks is back in the game. .....no three drinks for all night .

Who has the better looking chicas? That's like arguing over the best flavor of ice cream. There are gems available elsewhere for 150 to 200 pesos if you look. The best looking chicas are not always the best providers and blah, blah, blah. This posting is about the competition between three high end clubs that market glamor and illusion, not necessarily the best erotic experience. In my mind:

BLACKS IN BACK IN THE RUNNING. THE OWNERS AT LAS LOPEZ AND MADAHOS HAVE HIT THE TOP PRICING IN THEIR MARKET WITH THE CLUBS' ADD-ON FEES. [See my posting on a 700 peso experiece at las lopez] BLACKS HAS NOT AND CURRENTLY MAY OFFER EQUAL OR BETTER VALUE. I am not going to argue that one flavor of ice cream is better than another. With any luck, I'll have hours of fun with my Blacks fantasy girl for 300 pesos within a few days. Blacks will sell me more 80 pesos glasses of orange juice for the opportunity to feast on the illusion of glamor. I will make a few less visits to madahos and las lopez[Bobby, your add on fees are just too high]

Miami Bob

ps BB, please contact me

John

08-11-07, 18:55

I visited Black on Thursday night. There are several girls at Blacks that deserve a 7 or 8 in my book. I don't' think there were any 9's. The place is very upbeat and it could be fun to hang out here, but I don't believe the girls here are worth the asking price of 600 pesos for one hour, plus the 2 beers at 80 pesos each.

If you take into account the 40 peso entrance and drink fees that you end up paying about 800 pesos for one hour with an 8 looking chica. That amount translates to about US$ 270. I think that it is absurd, if I am flying all the way to B. Aires, and paying $270 per hour for a chica.

I am a resonably high payer. I negotiated with a girl in Black and she started with 900 pesos, I start thinking in my head that with this starting price attitude why she don't just ask $900.

I mean that is a ridiculous starting point. I negotiate her down to 500 pesos, and I ask her if she will do 2 hours or more for that price. The girl's attitude was more or less hour and a half, and I have to buy 2 drink at 80 pesos, plus 500 pesos for her. At this point in time I am just pissed off and completely turned of with this girls attitude I just tell tell her that I will think about it and let her go.

I looked at my watch and it's about 3:30 am. I decided that there is no sense negotiating any more just decided to go to the Cocodrillos. As soon as I leave the bar, this girl that I was negotiating with also leaves the club without any guy with her. The attitude is that leave home alone without any money, but not be nice about the negotiations.

On the other hand my friend Marco Chileno left with a 7 looking girl for 450 pesos *2 hours* plus two drinks. He had a good time that night but agreed with me next day that Buenos Aires clubs like Black and Madahos have priced themselves out of the market.

On a side note I think there is alot of inflation in Buenos Aires right now and the peso will eventually have to go down back to 4 pesos to a dollar, for Buenos Aires to be competitive in almost all traits. The above note can be argued separately, but I know my Economics and that is just my analysis and that conclusion is made not only Chica prices but including food prices, property prices, and several other day to day expenses.

Regards,

John.

Miami Bob

08-11-07, 21:22

You hit the wrong girl. Don't give-up!

Last night I thought that I hit the right girl. She showed up today. Well over 30 in day light, but still got my hormones pumping. I'll change the rating from 9 to 7.5+ because she still is beautiful and has[ to me] a perfect body which I only got to start exploring. She wants to go on the internet and pick-out a girl to join us and she'll extend from 2 to 4 hours for the same price---please, please! Sounds interesting.

WE pull-up a website. And then. I want to be paid first.

I put the money out under an ashtray so she could see it clearly and know it is all there. I say, " after my love. I'm putting the money where you can see it. It will be yours. We are going to become good friends. Blah, blah, blah." She threatens to leave. I ask if there is a compromise possible. She says NO and puts her clothes back on and I walk her to the front door. So much for my Blacks fantacy of glamor. And erotic bliss.

No problem. One phone call later, my old friend the blow job queen is free tonight for us$150 pesos per hora /300 for all night. She is a shure thing and no body would throw this girl out of bed once she learns what blows the top off of your head---she has a god given talent---now I'm not quite sure why I spent 150 pesos last night to be entertained for 1:45 minutes and obtain a useless telephone number.

Call me crazy, I'll be buying another 80peso orange juice at blacks within a few days. Always the optimist! ---In search of glamor and fantacy at the high end clubs.

Bob

Erkinator73

08-11-07, 22:25

I stumbled into Black at about 3am on Thursday. There were about 30 chica's working, and maybe 2 or 3 that I was interested in. After careful inspection (I. E. Using my flashlight so I could actually see them;) the place is dark! I selected a girl and started negotiating. She started out at 600 pesos and I quickly countered with 400 (I was feeling generous at that hour) she countered back with 500, I said 400 was as much as I would pay. I had already bought her a drink thinking with my great negotiating skills that 400 would be no problema and we'd get the hell out quickly. Well apparently my negotiating skills are not as good as I thought:(oh well.

To make a long story short, I left Black (no chica in hand) and went back to El Alamo and hooked up with this Paraguayan girl (7 face 9 body and loud! Had a TNL for 200 pesos. I'll post more about her in another thread.

All in all I like Black. I think the staff is friendly and it has a pretty good vibe. I wouldn't suggest going in after 3am though (at least on Thursday night)

I'm still undecided about going back.

Cheers!

Hlover

08-12-07, 13:52

Dude, stoked you did not pay marginal black chicas gringo rates.

Keep posting El Alamo conquests!

Esten

08-12-07, 16:17

I usually have a backup plan when I hit the clubs in the evening. If I don't see something I like in the first club and / or I can't negotiate a reasonable rate, I leave. The second club is one I can usually count on.

For Black, I ALWAYS have a backup plan. I don't expect to pull someone out. I go in with an open mind and 'see what happens'. Quality is generally not the issue here, rather price. I'm prepared to move on if I can't negotiate a reasonable price.

I always leave Black in a good mood, because either:

(a) I got a deal I was happy with, or,

(b) I leave knowing I contributed (even in a very small way) to price control and sending the message that there are guys who are just not going to pay inflated prices.

I usually buy the girl a drink first before I negotiate. If we can't agree on price she wasted a half hour or more with me. Unless the girl is my ultimate fantasy girl, I have no problem walking away from the failed deal. I'll find something good at another club. And I get a small satisfaction from having sent her a message (and any girls nearby who may have witnessed the failed deal) that her price is too high.

Up until last year I never paid more than 300p at Black. This year was the first I paid 400p which is my new current acceptable price point here.

Exon123

08-12-07, 17:11

I met a Chica that works in Black at a swim party.

She wanted $120 peso's to go upstairs and get it on for an hour.

We ended up sharing a taxi back to town and she told me that once she set foot in Black her price was $400 peso's.

My suggestion is that you get her phone number for the $80 peso drink.

And either call her yourself or have Roxana do it for you.

Exon

Monger514

08-12-07, 19:38

"Always have a backup plan."

I second that. Go check it out and be prepared to leave alone and go somewhere else. Have fun in Black.

Miami Bob

08-17-07, 06:14

I spent about 1:30 at Blacks: 2:00-3:30. No desirable chicas would go for less than 500 pesos. This place still has glamor and beauty, but this boy is not paying 500pesos plus 80pesos for the chica drink for 90 minutes with a stranger when I am tired and have to get up the next morning.

Tomorrow afternoon I'll have three hours of bliss with a beautiful newbie who has intense orgasms and doesn't realize just how beautiful she is. She'll be happy with 200 pesos and likely inspire a good tip with great service. Life is good even if I have to live without the illusion of glamor and beauty which blacks exudes.

Miami Bob will keep searching for the unattainable at an inflated, but not too outrageous, price. Maybe I'll buy this sweet girl a Blacks' style dress and sexy pumps. Save money and be with someone who really wants to give me pleasure.

Bad Boy, where is the master? BB I am seeking what you have found. Share your hard earned wisdom with your eager students

Miami Bob

08-21-07, 12:34

Monday night--federal holiday time-- at Blacks. The sweet blond over 30 who I have my eye on is not here tonight. I've bought her a drink and almost closed the deal twice. We have some chemistry and she is my preferred target. She has a perfect body and when she smiles my heart skips a beat. She the type of girl that provides a reason for blacks to exist.

I see the other blond who belongs in playboy--she's a waste of time: she starts at us$300 and will not go below us$200 for one hour. I truly believe that she will get up and leave after 59 minutes. She's not a good candidate despite her 9.5 looks. The truth is that I'd almost be willing to pay money to just look at her. Blacks does really have a number of breath taking young ladies.

First new candidate. An 8.0--really elegant and sexy dress. 80 peso drink and after 30 minutes of chat, a little kiss-kiss we get down to particulars as she strokes my inner thigh.

This should work! She would love to share everything I want+. Looking good------now $$. I suggest that let's avoid negotiation and pretend that she asks for us$200 and I discuss 300 pesos and that we compromise on 450 pesos. I have a 500 pesos limit. She looks upset and lets me know that she doesn't do anything for less than 600 pesos. Then she tells me about a recent us$400 todo el noche. I go to 500 pesos and she gets up and leaves.

She just walks away! I get up and follow to whisper in her ear--500 pesos is just for the first 90 minutes--I really want her. She kisses my cheek and says, "No, gracias" I am shocked.

The waitress gets her tip from me and chats me up. She points in the corner and says that the young girls in the far corner will be more flexible. I go look. Three 6-7's 20 years olds--They look like triangle girls. I've wanted the Blacks glamor plus experience, not a triangle girl.

I sit down in the far corner by myself to finish my drink and think about Cattos-- it's about 2:15 and I can still do it. A tall slender blond starts to dance in front of me-shaking a sexy booty in my face. This is worth a drink.

Chemistry and hormones kick in. She's kissing my neck and doing the sell. She is not leaving for less than 600.

OK, I'm a sucker. I need it now. She says 3 hour are just fine, time is not an issue--she likes my skin. She goes for the waitress--lets go now. The waitress she brings over is not my buddy who I usually look for and talk to. The new blond waitress says the chica drink is 120 pesos. Some disagreement ensues. When did the price of the chica drink increase from the 80 pesos I paid for the same champaign that I purchased 45 minutes ago. MY girl tells me to pay at the bar. At the bar they verify 80 pesos is the price. Scams. I'd bet my girl was in on it, but was smart enough to back off when I was not buying. This is cheap hooker click-joint bar stuff. What happened to the glamor and illusion of Blacks? It's really a cheap hooker bar with an exaggerated image it tries to sell. But the upper end girls are the best in terms of looks and image. I am not willing to pay what the want.

She girl is better than average. She knows her job well and is a type that I like. She provides 3 hours of good solid service. She admits that there are many nights that all she does is sell drinks. There is pressure to raise the rates to 600 pesos, she tells me. She tells that the rates are high and that we have good chemistry and will become friends.

She then sits at my laptop to have me send her a mail and gives me her home and cel number. She will be happy to come over for two hours before work for 300 pesos and so will her sister, who also works at Blacks. I guess that we may have some chemistry and she is a solid 7.5 to 8.0 a repeat would be likely, but I have three other girls I know where there is mutual chemistry in full bloom who are happy with 150 to 200 pesos and enjoy my pleasure and I enjoy theirs.

In retrospect, I should have left and gone to Cattos. I might go back again, but only to look for my blond who I was intending to meet when I walked in through the door.

She'll eventually go for 500 pesos and we have great chemistry in the bar or at least she is a better actress. Her face does make my heart skip a beat and this is only thing that Blacks has, if you are willing to pay: some of the most beautiful women in Bs As.

Thomaso276

08-21-07, 13:43

Nice report Bob.

Mark Linger

08-23-07, 15:11

M-BOB, it sounds like you spent hundreds on drinks and a LD while trying to save only 100 on the girl. Sounds like being penny wise and peso foolish.

Snowbird

08-23-07, 23:24

She then sits at my laptop to have me send her a mail and gives me her home and cel number. She will be happy to come over for two hours before work for 300 pesos and so will her sister, who also works at Blacks. I guess that we may have some chemistry and she is a solid 7.5 to 8.0 a repeat would be likely, but I have three other girls I know where there is mutual chemistry in full bloom who are happy with 150 to 200 pesos and enjoy my pleasure and I enjoy theirs.If you have to have one of these high end girls here is the answer. Get their cell number! Call them for a daytime meet (before they go to the club) and enjoy them without the chica drinks, etc for 1/2 to no more than 2/3 of the price. I think it was Dickhead who taught me that when I really wanted a particular chica but would not pay the high price. With this strategy I could still have banged her, in a less rushed atmosphere, at a lower price and not feel I had missed out on anything.

Master J

08-24-07, 02:32

Snowbird

08-24-07, 13:07

Regarding the catching of digits, I always felt that Black was very aware from all angels what goes on here. I am not sure any girl would jeopardize her ability to work here over giving out her number. Taking out the pen to me seems to be automatic radar move? Management I am sure would want you to do the business throught them, or is liberal lifestyle here again? What percentage of girls work regularly here? On there sometimers? I beleive they are selective to not have any druggies, here. I think they run a nice act here. See it in 1 week.Master J you are right. Management wants them there and doing business there. However, I have had one chica at Black and several at Madahos slip me their numbers. They did this after I inquired about seeing them during the day. They did not whip out a pen and give me their digits then and there. Sensing I was not going to take them at that time for that price they would leave and little later on bump into me and slip me the digits in a match book into my hand, smile, and give me a nice friendly kiss on the cheek. Why did they do this? Am I good looking? Nope. I think they did it because they thought I was a nice guy who would not be an unpleasant trist the next day. The only reason this happened only once at Black is I found to many of the girls in Black think they are so hot that their own poo does not stink. Oh and I forgot probably the most important point. It was probably because I was in Jackson's companyat Madahos and was tagged as a known quantity.

MiddleAgeGuy

09-08-07, 18:55

OK, Friday starting somewher around 12:00 until 2:00.

Halfway up the stairs, 6-8 girls priping about after getting changed outside their room; 2 looking pretty good.

Went up to the main games room and a pretty fair selection there. One guy towing out 4 girls, 10 minutes later another guy towing out 2 girls. Actually, in 2 hours, probably the most girls I have ever seen puuled from a club, but that's pobably because I was sitting with my wingman at the bar.

We had our 40 peso drinks, (yes, 10 pesos less than Madaho) But overall, I must say I prefer the whole experience and chica selection at Madaho.

2 of the better looking ones we saw coming up the stairs we motioned over after 1/2 hour, talked for 15 minutes, then offered them a drink. The surprize was they both spoke excellent English. Some very intellegent conversation, with some sexy stuff thrown in. One was taller than me in her not outrageous heels, and I am of average NAmerc. Height. I knew the prices would be crazy and my wingman, Latino, asked and the tall one said $US300. I tried a different tack with the other and said I never date on the first night, I want your digits for another night. They went to the can, came back and she said she was being watched to closely by mmg to slip anything to me. She whispered her cell to me. I told her I would never remember it so she tried the email. I sent one there but no answer yet so I am not sure if I got it right.

We gave them each a nice tip for taking time out of their busy evening to talk.

Miami Bob

09-09-07, 02:03

The male mind is as crazy as it's female counter-part? I posted a few times about Blacks over the past few weeks.

The woman's face that keeps coming back to mind is the 30's blond at Blacks who I never took out because of money issues.

Mark Linger is right about me from a rational point of view. This 55 year old is still either a romantic at heart or just an old horn dog. This most beautiful woman of the trip, who I never slept with is the one I miss the most. Her smile actually did make my heart skip a beat. The truth is that another girl created the same reaction for less money:

I went to excedera too sick with the flu to do anything except drink tea, and chatted-up Hilda, the 50's battle axe who keeps the girls in line. I try to kiss her on the cheek because she has almost as much intel on the girls as Jackson and Capt Dave combined. Hilda introduced me to a new girl who was just starting to work and was timid. Hilda told her that I'm a good guy and told me that she is very passionate and needs to be treated with kindness. This early 20's mother, whose man had abandoned her with an infant, looked at me and smiled. My heart skipped a beat and I started to cough --darn that flu--her smile was every bit as beautiful as the us$200 blacks' girl's smile and likely sincere. I'll have to wait for November to return to both Blacks and excedera to find out.

AS for now, I'm getting to know a columbian woman who is more age appropriate and I'll have to spend US$500 on dating before I find out if she can give head worth a darn. For us$500, I could probably have 5 full days and nights with the sexy single mom that Hilda tried to recomend.

Aqualung

09-09-07, 02:41

Miami Bob,

Your flue influenced post brought back some very old but dear memories of 30 years back as a young monger in BA (yes, I was a monger here before most of you guys could finger Argentina on a map) when Mirta (Hilda) was the object of my and my fellow monger's desires.

Picture her slim with long shiny black hair, sensuous thick lips and come to bed eyes. A two hundred bucks a night lass. Maybe even three if you were hot / rich enough.

Very few of those girls have survived 30 years and I am actually fucking the granddaughters of many of the girls of those days. Mirta is one of very few that still dresses up, goes out and sits in a bar and earns her own living.

I respect her immensely and in all these 30 years I have never fucked her

Aqualung

09-09-07, 02:45

Oops - Jackson, the thread on Black wasn't the right place to post my views on Hilda and 30 years of mongering in the Queen Of La Plata (Buenos Aires) Please redirect my post to wherever you deem correct.

:)

Peter

Monger514

10-13-07, 14:25

We made a brief stop here. The entrance was crammed with guys, so we turned and left.

I've been here on a holiday before, and I think I may pay a visit Monday night. What I liked about it before was there were not a lot of guys, but still a decent number of women, and I could relax and flirt some knowing I was one of the few prospects that night. Of course, it doesn't really mean anything, the girls aren't coming down on their prices, and I didn't take one home that night, and probably won't take one home on Monday, either. I'm just saying I like the place better when things are a little slower.

Member #3314

11-03-07, 15:41

I went here last night with some guys that had never been and wanted a trophy fuck. It was not very crowded.

Another monger shared this trick with me. If you take a cab to Black, or Madaho's tell the cab driver not to run the meter because he will get paid from the club if you tell them its your first time there. This worked twice last night for my friends and I. I have heard that they get 20 pesos per person.

I was very let down at the quality of the girls in this place. I saw 4 stunners, I talked to 2 and none would do BBBJ or TLN. If I am paying that much for quality tail I must get what I want in return. It was just not happening there. My friends had bad luck also.

We hopped in a cab and got a free ride to Madaho's all of 6 blocks away with a happy cab driver.

I am starting to think all of the stunners here have left for Europe. The quality of the chicas is going down hill here and other higher end clubs.

Big Boss Man

11-19-07, 14:38

I took a chica from Black to Madero Tango last night. Taking her out of the club on Thursday and having a date with her on Sunday is the most I ever spent on a chica in BA. No regrets.

Now for the sure tell. When we were getting out of the taxi at the show, she asked me if I had forgotten to get a receipt from the driver. Obviously she is used to being with the business traveler and not the vacationer.

Overall, I enjoyed having someone to date. She dressed appropriately for the show. We did not receive any undue attention despite the thirty-year age gap. She pointed out herself that she is "no loco". Other chicas in BA can be. I think that Black's market is the business traveler.

I paid 1500 pesos for both Thursday and Sunday. She spent 90 minutes Thursday night and seven hours with me on Sunday. She claims she gets $400 and $500 a night. In Black she opened with $600. The problem is she reminds you from time to time that she gets that amount. She definitely has upsell skills. I told her that guys only pay $200 at Black and she was incredulous. "Me?" she asked while pointing to herself. No doubt she is a very good actress. My Dad taught me that you cannot tell a person how to run their business unless they ask. She's putting up her time and labor. It must be working or she would change.

I think if flight, hotel and meals were paid for I would have no problem paying the tab if I was six-figure executive. My take is that the Black service is a good-looking girl with some manners who does not do drugs and is clean and safe. I could see guys easily paying for that if they are on a two-or-three day business trip. Quite frankly Black was packed last Thursday night.

Now here is the sad part, she used to work for Solid Gold before she went to Black so sometime this year in eight months she has worked one of you probably was with her for 200 pesos.

Jeffrey88

11-25-07, 11:15

First timer to BA here. I usually don't post anything but I had to relate my first experience of going to Black for the comedic value. I've only been in town for two days and Black was the first club that I went to. Plus I speak no Spanish whatsoever. I know, recipe for disaster.

So I get there around 12 last night and hang out for a little while outside. I was worried I was going to go in and it would be deserted inside. Finally, I decided I would just pay the cover and go in and if I was the only person there, I'd just turn around and leave. So I pay the cover which I believe was 40 or 50 pesos and included a drink and walk up the stairs.

I wasn't really planning on taking anybody out unless I saw somebody I really liked and they didn't play games with the prices. My Spanish is so bad I didn't think I could really haggle about the price. I forgot about all of that when I walked into the main room. There were some really beautiful women there.

So after awhile I start talking to Anna, she spoke very limited English but we could get through the details. She quoted 250p right away which I thought was the rate I read from this forum. So I agreed and we went back to my apt. Here's where it gets interesting.

First she wants to get paid upfront, which I know is never a good sign but I relent because I'm also expecting her to try something about the price and I'd like to get that out of the way. She then tries the standard, I said 250 US dollars. I said no way, you said pesos. At this point, I was starting to get tired and is she would have kept arguing I was just going to show her the door. She then said o. K, pesos, but wanted 300. I said no again, and I think she could tell I was getting annoyed so she dropped it. I felt guilty so I gave her an extra 20. Here's where the comedy comes in.

She goes into the bathroom and two minutes later I hear her yell and she runs out of the bathroom. I run in there and she had been playing with the bidet and one of the faucets is off and there is water spraying up and going everywhere and the floor was beginning to flood. My first thought was what kind of scam is this? Did she do it on purpose so she can run out of the apt. with the money? Or is she trying to distract me so she can go through my place stealing things? So I'm getting soaked and trying to fix the faucet while keeping one eye on her. To make a long story short, I had to call the maintenance people who sent somebody up to fix the faucet which took an uncomfortable ten minutes. Anna just waited and didn't steal anything, so I don't think it was a scam. We finally did the deed and I gave her taxi fare and she left.

The evening turned out ok but I think I may now be traumatized.

Esten

11-25-07, 23:23

Thanks for sharing the report from Black. That's definately a wacky experience you had with the bidet. I would have been suspicious too. Good thing it turned out OK. Any details on Anna's performance and appearance you can share?

Also, I must commend you on getting a chica here for 250p, especially on your first visit. You might have the record for the lowest price at Black. Very impressive. I paid 300p a few times but that was over two years ago. I think the average rate here is probably in the 400-500p range. What did you pay in total for the chica's drinks... Did she say you had to buy 2 drinks?

Jeffrey88

11-26-07, 00:43

Daddy Rulz

11-26-07, 01:06

The drinks might have been where I got screwed. She said I had to buy two and it came out to 120 pesos. I couldn't remember if I had read if this was the standard price or not?

I think she probably quoted me 250 because for some reason there weren't that many guys there last night. What are the weeknights like? I'm thinking about going back tomorrow night.She probably quoted you the 250 with every intention of changing it to dollars in the room. It's an old trick and one you can take advantage of. As a matter of fact you could just say "dos ciento y sinquenta" and leave it at that, or better yet say "two hundred and fifty" and then pay them in pesos. Most will fuck you I think. They have already told their friends they are getting 250 bucks so their face is saved. Especially if it's early or late but not prime time on a slow night.

I think I would use a tello if this is going to be an ongoing gambit though. If they get out of hand in your room your kind of trapped, where as in a tello you can just walk out. Once you walk out without paying them the gambit is foiled at that club because they will tell all of their friends, and you will be the "hijo de puta who doesn't pay." The LCN is faster than the web.

The bidet broke is all, not her fault. She saved you an unwanted shower, as every "valuable service provider" worth anything washes her concha before fucking.

Jeffrey88

11-26-07, 01:12

Daddy Rulz

11-26-07, 04:03

Thanks, that actually makes sense. I'm sure that was her plan all along. I can't believe they actually try that and it works. I guess it must work sometime. I'm guessing a Tello is a short time hotel? That makes a lot of sense, I really didn't like her at my place and it would have been nice just to walk out if she got really annoying. How much is a Tello normally?

ThanksA former member knew about one in Congreso that was 19 pesos. There is one just down the street from Madaho that is like 60 or 80 pesos, well worth the price for the peace of mind.

Hunt99

11-26-07, 11:57

Well played for a first-timer, Jeff. Most newbies would have been holding their dick and saying "anything you want, amor" to a girl who pulled this old trick. 120 pesos for two chica drinks is a normal price.

DosLuna

11-30-07, 20:17

They were celebrating their 17th Anniversary or something, all the chicas were dressed like it was prom night, there were some dancers. 50p entrance, 60p chica drinks. Place was crowded, too crowded, had to nudge your way around. Many beautiful and gorgeous chicas, but many would not even discuss take out unless you bought them a drink. Wanted to get a feel for take out price, so finally was able to talk 2 chicas without buying them drinks. Take out would have been 300p for 1 1/2 hrs for one a Portena, and 2-3 hours for the other from Paraguay. But note all the chicas started out at some outrageous price like 900p. Overall impression, generally overpriced chicas with same quality as Madahos and La Lopez, with some luck you might find a bargain relatively speaking.

Dos Luna

Pathan

12-11-07, 01:13

IMHO. All this talk about the workers at Black - which are decent don't get me wrong, but in my opinion its the HOT ass pole dancers that deserve the $300US. Hell I'd pay $500 for that quality USDA prime, but they just won't go out, and I've thrown numbers at them before but no dice.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone knows anything about these pole dancers (besides the obvious)

As for the other girls that work at Blacks, it's a hit or miss and usually there's only 1 or 2 dime pieces (who usually tend to hold out till they get the drunk sucker that pays them $300US they're looking for) and the rest fall into the average bin.

My recommendation is if you're just in the mood to pick someone up that is good looking and not a lot of trouble, then go to Madahos or that other one across the street. Same quality, much less drama.

Below is a girl I picked up from that place across the street for Madahos. Not bad.

Vitrea

12-19-07, 21:27

I posted my comparison of Madahos, La Lpoez and Black in the general category. I am posting the link here to avoid cross posting.

http://argentinaprivate.com/forum/s...32&postcount=80

Vitrea

12-20-07, 19:56

Ivana: Black hair, pretty face, good body, speaks excellent english, CBJ, passionate in performance AND classy. Took her out twice. She always looked out for my best interest. I don't want to give out details of how she saved money because that may get her in trouble. Daniel, one of the mangers told me that he would fire the girl and the waitress if I tell them who did the favors to me.: Highly recommend.

Sorry. Can't remember the name: Curly black hair, 22yr old from BA, spoke good english. I am experienced monger. I refuse to buy a drink unless we settle on the take out price, expected time in the room and expected activities. Stated off well but once we settled on all of the above she insisted on two drinks (WTF?), 40 peso tip to the "check out" guy (which I refused), insisted I tip the door man (which I refused) and to top it all off she tried to pull the typical Black's Taxi scam by asking for one of the taxis that apparently belong to Black. They look like a typical BA radio taxi except that they do not have the roof top light. They do not run the meter. At destination, they try to rip you off. My hotel was exactly 4 blocks away from Black. I noticed that the guy did not turn the meter on and I decided to have some fun. I got out and I handed him 5 pesos. The cabbie just sat there without saying a word, but my chica went nuts. She wanted me to give him 30 more pesos. I laughed and refused. I knew right then that this session was a no go, but I persuaded her to come up anyway. In the room as expected she asked for money upfront. I refused, she threatened to walk and I gladly opened the door for her. She wanted 100 pesos for the taxi. I laughed again and I did not give her 1 peso. She stormed out cursing me and my mother.

I freshened up, went out 15 minutes later and walked one block to La Lopez for the catch of the day.

MCSE

12-23-07, 22:08

There were several girls. Well guys, what can I say? I know, I know many of you will desagree. But Black, in my opinion it's a great club, all right, chica rates for newbies are fucking high and I know and the girls are even more stupid than their counterparts in other places, but I mean the club, by itself, remains somehow with the essence that moved me to be in love with Buenos Aires. Maybe it's the space, the large bar, the girls dancing on the bar and the ambience in general, the way the waitresses and the girls are waiting for your signals but without annoying. I don't know, there is something that I love about Black and from my point of view, it's a must visit before you leave BA, even if you don't get a girl from there.

Went there yesterday and I've seen almost locals only, there were just a few. Some of the guys leaved the place alone, seemed they just get there to either have a few drinks and probably collect phone numbers for the future. Beside the dancers, I have seen two or three girls that I liked. The point with Black it's they have different styles, I've noticed that each time I visited it, so you have busty, older, younger, taller, etc.

Yesterday was a great day to negotiate, as the place was not very crowded. I was talking to a girl and it took me less than 2 minutes to take her initial USD 200 to ar$350

However, I was only researching. At 4:00 AM the club closed, and many girls were exiting the club, just for research and investigation I followed one who rejected to take a cab, she walked in direction to take a bus. That's a bad night, I thought.

Esten

12-24-07, 03:51

I agree, I always stop in Black every trip even if just for a look-see. About half the time (or a little more) I take someone out, other times I move on. It is always enjoyable to see the current lineup and selection and see what the 'top' club in BA has to offer.

Black is expensive by BA standards, but not compared with similar clubs in some other cities. $200 US (600 pesos) total for drinks at an upscale club and an hour back at your place with a young hottie, actually seems like a good deal once you've spent a week in an expensive city.

Esten

12-29-07, 19:28

Sandy and Abril are two girls from Uruguay who work at Black. Sandy is a medium-height brunette and Abril is a taller blond. Both slim and attractive, and dressed more classy than slutty. I chatted with them awhile, but then said I wanted to look around a little more. I nursed my drink and continued enjoying one of my favorite pastimes... checking out a club full of attractive young women, exchanging eye contact and smiles, knowing I could have any one of them I wanted. I saw a few hotties who could be possibilities, but they turned out to be a little too business-like for me. Not friendly or warm enough.

Awhile later Sandy and Abril pass by and we chat a little more. I'm attracted to Sandy more and figure lets go for it. I offer to buy her a drink (making sure its an 80p one) and her friend says goodbye and leaves us alone. Sandy is not too touchy or intimate in the club but I hope that will change in private. We negotiate, I offer 400p she wants 500p and we agree on 450p. Part of the reason I agree on 450p was that I figured this was reasonable if I only bought one 80p drink. And (based on my last experience at Black) I was curious to test the waters and see if the girl or club would allow this or would try to enforce two drinks. Sure enough, Sandy insists I need to buy her another drink. I politely refuse. She goes to talk with her friend and then the waitress, at some point I believe they said it would be 120p total for drinks but I said I was only willing to buy the one 80p drink. After a couple minutes discussion the waitress comes over and asks if I want to settle the bill now, and clarifies it will only be the one 80p drink. Very good! One 80p drink it is. I pay and give the waitress a 20p tip.

At my hotel I had a good but not great time with Sandy. She has a fit, toned, tanned athletic body. Slim with muscular abs but still a very feminine look. Brunette, large b cups, very attractive face. She could be a sports model in my opinion. And, I have never in my life been with a girl who used her body like a fucking machine the way Sandy did. Her energy and strength were unbelievable. I remember doing her in missionary, where the guy usually does all the work, and she lifted her ass and back a foot off the bed and started pumping me rapidly back and forth while I just remained still on my knees and did nothing. Amazing. And she wasn't straining either, she could have probably kept going like this for a long time. As fun as all this was, there was no GFE on Sandy's part (no kissing, no BBBJ) and I could not keep up with her. I took off the condom and had her finish me with a baby oil handjob. She went and cleaned herself off right away and was soon dressed and ready to go. Probably would not repeat again, unless I got myself in better shape to keep up with her. An interesting challenge.

Exon123

12-29-07, 19:55

I'd have to say IMHO that Sandy "Fucked You" Esten, it was not the other way around. $450 peso's for this type of service is completely unexceptable. Buenos Aires is world famious for "Service" and you were not treated properly.

Exon

Geo Eye

12-30-07, 11:53

Both have an attitude problem. My guess, they are lesbians. Constantly, they argue loudly, violently, through the night. Both are too stupid to realize that I might pay them. I avoid them.Hey Sidney. That Dumb ***** Sandy came to Miami to dance and trick and when we got her the job, she never showed up. She is truely an airhead.

Kleenex

01-03-08, 04:18

Esten

03-22-08, 16:59

I have noticed that in Black also, if you agree to buy a chica a drink she will talk directly with the hostess and you may not be able to hear or understand what is being said. If you don't speak up, my guess is you will be charged the 120p drink fee rather than the 80p drink.

The downside to buying the cheapest 80p drink is that it may be more difficult to negotiate a deal to take the chica out. Recently I bought a drink for a Paraguayan girl in Black by the name of Lise. She is a brunette, tall, slim, great rack (large C) and beautiful face. Very hot - in the top 10% in Black I would say. When I offered to buy her a drink I said it's 80p right? She said she wasn't sure what the prices were (a lie) She waived the hostess over and they spoke quickly. I spoke up to make sure it would be a 80p drink and the hostess confirmed yes.

Lise and I chatted for awhile, her standing between my legs at an angle so I had a great direct view of her cleavage the entire time (on purpose on her part, I'm sure) She wasn't as warm with me as other girls have been, but she was nice. We started negotiations, she said her price was 750p. I countered I usually pay 400p but would be willing to go up to 500p. She said her minimum was 600p. She was hot and I wanted her, so I agreed to splurge for her 600p. But then I clarified this is with the one drink, right? She said oh no, I need to buy other drink. I was firm that I would not buy a second drink, and she wouldn't budge either. So the deal fell through and she soon left.

Exon123

03-22-08, 17:41

Lysander

03-23-08, 02:52

Went to Blacks tonight. For a first timer, it was an interesting experience compared to what I've encountered in the states. I speak some limited spanish and was able to talk (and buy drinks) for three girls.

The first:

Amira (goes by Amy) - tall Columbian, Argentine mix. She spoke very good English. I bought her a drink and she immediately quoted a $300 USD fee. I told her was too expensive. I also told her I was undecided. Frankly, she was probably one of the hottest (if not the hottest) in the club. Unfortunately, she came across as totally mercenary and I decided that I would pass on her.

Celeste - short Paraguayan, all natural. I was pleased to meet Celeste. She had some limited English. She has a daughter but it doesn't really show in her figure. It was a good opportunity to practice my spanish. I ended up buying two drinks for her. She eventually brought up the question of visiting the Hotel. She seemed more flexible on rates and also seemed willing to negotiate on pesos. I told her to check back in 30 minutes as I wanted to speak to some other girls. She was OK with this.

Diane - Diane was the last girl that I bought a drink for. She was very aggressive and basically kept saying, "me give you good service" which seemed like the equivalent of "me love you long time". Despite the limited english, Diane was a true Argentine: attractive, tall, natural, and all over me. This would normally be a good thing but I hit a snag. She had bad breath. If I had to guess, I think that Diane had just returned from fucking some customer and was looking for the second score of the night. The cock breath really didn't do it for me so I had to graciously decline. It was unfortunate as she probably would have been the best overall experience.

Now for the costs. I think I ended up buying 4 drinks in total. Each drink was priced at 120p. I had no idea how to get the 80p drinks as most of the girls were ordering and the Spanish was too fast. Ugh. Secondly, I forgot about the taxi scam as I was leaving. Sure enough, they didn't run the meter and I ended up getting charge 40p for a trip from Recoleta to Puerto Madera.

All in, the trip set me back 50p (cover) + 480p (drinks) + 40p (return) = 570p. Definitely not the most economical use of funds.

I ended up back at my hotel alone.Well Kleenex, thanks for a frank report. Another good account that only adds to the mystery as to why anyone, except for rich tourists and expense account businessmen with money to burn, goes to this place. Ok so there are a number of good looking girls, but no better on the average than other Recoleta clubs like Madahos. The girls in Black seem to be exceptionally mercenary, and unwilling to drop their prices, and if you do manage to take one out, by all accounts the service seems to be no better than average. Whichever way you look at it, Black just doesn't seem to be worth it any more. If you had managed to take a girl out and paid her US$200 dollars (after bargaining a bit) the total would still have come to around US$400 for an hour of average sex. That's what I call bad value for money.

And by the way, in Black as in other Recoleta clubs, you can chat to a girl for a bit, ask her how much (or rather if she will accept your reasonable offer) to go out, before you buy her a drink. If you buy a drink for every girl you talk to this can make for a very expensive and unproductive evening - as you found out. OK a few girls in Black and other clubs will refuse to talk to you before you buy them a drink, but is that the kind of girl you want anyway?

MCSE

03-23-08, 03:40

Whatever you say, I still like Black. The value for money it's an interesting concept I know, but the glamour for money could be the concept you ignore some times.

Xion149

03-24-08, 03:03

Well I'm new here, so I felt I should see Blacks at least once.

But. 120p DRINKS? Most chicks here fuck for that.

The 600p offer from the paraguaya is particularly disturbing.

Next time, ask them how much in Guaranies?

The going rate in Asuncion is 100,000- roughly $20 US.

Different market for certain, but jesus. Its only the next country over.

Edit: the cock-breath thing made me lol :D

Hobbying

03-24-08, 06:46

This club reminds me of Cafe Photo in Sao Paulo. Upscale tourist trap and girls dressed classier. I'm sure these girls hop working from club to club and ask for different prices depending what club their at. Sometimes at half the price. I went in to look since its a tourist spot and I'm a tourist lol. 50p for drink but I never ordered one so I went in saw the girls there and left. My buddy talked to a girl and she wanted 800p for 1hr and would not negotiate. I can just tell most of them are the type that just go through the motions.

TomInBA

05-11-08, 22:18

Stopping by Black two days ago, after dinner with good friends, my expections were.

High entering the club, Three guys from the dinner were there, and I wanted to hook up with them briefly, and then head to the Triangle.

After paying 50 pesos for a beer, I found the other guys, and proceeded to check out. The place. Close to 100 girls were in there, all kind of sizes and shapes. Two weeks Ago, we stopped in Madaho for a few drinks. The girls in there were much nicer. Maybe this was an off night, but if continues, I do not think many guys are going to recommend this place. I left alone, as did my friends.

Monger514

06-26-08, 20:30

I visited here a few nights ago. There were at least fifty girls in the place, and maybe even more. Quite a few good lookers, too, many with nice racks.

Pretty much now I just sip on an expensive beer and watch the dancers, as well as enjoy having the girls line up and smile at me, not knowing I've become too cheap to pull a girl from here. But if budget is not an issue, you should check it out.

BadMan

06-26-08, 21:25

Pretty much now I just sip on an expensive beer and watch the dancers, as well as enjoy having the girls line up and smile at me.I've done that myself on a number of occasions. Though I occasionally take one out.

Regards,

BM.

TejanoLibre

06-26-08, 21:52

Dianna with the inflated lips?

Burned a hole in my super expensive king-sized bed!

Dropped from $600.00 pesos an hour in Black to FREE at the COKE Bar!

Dianna Lips is what I call her.

Spent 24 hours with her and the only thing that it cost me was the cig. Burn in my bed and 2 beers at the C Bar!

Rubber everything so I'm damn glad it was free!

Went to Blacks tonight. For a first timer, it was an interesting experience compared to what I've encountered in the states. I speak some limited spanish and was able to talk (and buy drinks) for three girls.

The first:

Amira (goes by Amy) - tall Columbian, Argentine mix. She spoke very good English. I bought her a drink and she immediately quoted a $300 USD fee. I told her was too expensive. I also told her I was undecided. Frankly, she was probably one of the hottest (if not the hottest) in the club. Unfortunately, she came across as totally mercenary and I decided that I would pass on her.

Celeste - short Paraguayan, all natural. I was pleased to meet Celeste. She had some limited English. She has a daughter but it doesn't really show in her figure. It was a good opportunity to practice my spanish. I ended up buying two drinks for her. She eventually brought up the question of visiting the Hotel. She seemed more flexible on rates and also seemed willing to negotiate on pesos. I told her to check back in 30 minutes as I wanted to speak to some other girls. She was OK with this.

Diane - Diane was the last girl that I bought a drink for. She was very aggressive and basically kept saying, "me give you good service" which seemed like the equivalent of "me love you long time". Despite the limited english, Diane was a true Argentine: attractive, tall, natural, and all over me. This would normally be a good thing but I hit a snag. She had bad breath. If I had to guess, I think that Diane had just returned from fucking some customer and was looking for the second score of the night. The cock breath really didn't do it for me so I had to graciously decline. It was unfortunate as she probably would have been the best overall experience.

Now for the costs. I think I ended up buying 4 drinks in total. Each drink was priced at 120p. I had no idea how to get the 80p drinks as most of the girls were ordering and the Spanish was too fast. Ugh. Secondly, I forgot about the taxi scam as I was leaving. Sure enough, they didn't run the meter and I ended up getting charge 40p for a trip from Recoleta to Puerto Madera.

All in, the trip set me back 50p (cover) + 480p (drinks) + 40p (return) = 570p. Definitely not the most economical use of funds.

I ended up back at my hotel alone.

Ivanba

07-09-08, 03:25

Went to Blacks tonight. For a first timer, it was an interesting experience compared to what I've encountered in the states. I speak some limited spanish and was able to talk (and buy drinks) for three girls.

The first:

Amira (goes by Amy) - tall Columbian, Argentine mix. She spoke very good English. I bought her a drink and she immediately quoted a $300 USD fee. I told her was too expensive. I also told her I was undecided. Frankly, she was probably one of the hottest (if not the hottest) in the club. Unfortunately, she came across as totally mercenary and I decided that I would pass on her.

Celeste - short Paraguayan, all natural. I was pleased to meet Celeste. She had some limited English. She has a daughter but it doesn't really show in her figure. It was a good opportunity to practice my spanish. I ended up buying two drinks for her. She eventually brought up the question of visiting the Hotel. She seemed more flexible on rates and also seemed willing to negotiate on pesos. I told her to check back in 30 minutes as I wanted to speak to some other girls. She was OK with this.

Diane - Diane was the last girl that I bought a drink for. She was very aggressive and basically kept saying, "me give you good service" which seemed like the equivalent of "me love you long time". Despite the limited english, Diane was a true Argentine: attractive, tall, natural, and all over me. This would normally be a good thing but I hit a snag. She had bad breath. If I had to guess, I think that Diane had just returned from fucking some customer and was looking for the second score of the night. The cock breath really didn't do it for me so I had to graciously decline. It was unfortunate as she probably would have been the best overall experience.

Now for the costs. I think I ended up buying 4 drinks in total. Each drink was priced at 120p. I had no idea how to get the 80p drinks as most of the girls were ordering and the Spanish was too fast. Ugh. Secondly, I forgot about the taxi scam as I was leaving. Sure enough, they didn't run the meter and I ended up getting charge 40p for a trip from Recoleta to Puerto Madera.

All in, the trip set me back 50p (cover) + 480p (drinks) + 40p (return) = 570p. Definitely not the most economical use of funds.

I ended up back at my hotel alone.I haven't visited this board in a while and ran across this post. It sounds like I met Amy before (her real name is actually Nahir) I met her at Blacks in August 2006 and certainly paid more than what I could have paid for others - it was less than $300 USD plus one drink for her. We left Blacks around 11PM and she stayed at my place until 4PM the next day. I've lost her contact info and tried to track her down a while ago. Here's a link to her photo from my previous post: http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=23218

Is this the same Amy?

The value was certainly there - I subsequently saw her on a more casual but still professional basis. Not only is she a pro in bed - she knows how to have a great time too.

Ivan.

MiddleAgeGuy

07-09-08, 09:59

Thanks for the pic. See my post back in September. I kick myself for not remembering her email, something with Amira in it. I might have to buck up for the $300 some time.

MAG

Ivanba

07-11-08, 14:39

Thanks for the pic. See my post back in September. I kick myself for not remembering her email, something with Amira in it. I might have to buck up for the $300 some time.

MAGI'm going through my image library and ran across another snapshot of our friend. Makes me want to buy a ticket to BA.

WhiteCat

07-22-08, 10:02

Did the obligatory stop here the other night with a fellow monger. 70AR entrada including a beer for your sipping pleasure. This place hosts the best talent with 9's and 10's in ample attendance. 30-35 chicas. Some just did not belong there. Hey, free peanuts too! I saw some real stunners here. It was hard to talk to them because of the chica drink charge, but well worth the visit. Got there in time for the strip show on the bar. The young blond stripper there with the A tits was one of the best there. About 5'0" and all of 90lbs. This place hosts the best Puta Stock in the city.

Paradiso666

08-03-08, 14:47

Thanks for the pic. See my post back in September. I kick myself for not remembering her email, something with Amira in it. I might have to buck up for the $300 some time.

MAG$300 is Pesos, right?

BadMan

08-03-08, 15:39

$300 is Pesos, right?I think he means U$S, since we are talking about Black after all.

Regards,

B. M.

Paradiso666

08-04-08, 14:28

I'd say you were foolish, for that kind of money there are any number of places you could have had the time od your life.

ExonWhat places?

MiddleAgeGuy

08-06-08, 17:51

I never asked the price, only chatted for some time with Amira. My appolgies on not putting the $US preface but Black's is all about $US, yes. Any I have asked have been $US300. You can check thru the Black posts but I think you will find this the norm. $US200 should not be too hard to negotiate if the timing is right.

MAG.

PS: another hot pic, thanks Ivan.

Carpediem

08-08-08, 05:31

Black really varries a lot (more than other places) Chatted with 4-5 chicas and the quotes varied from 300 pesos to 300 u$s. Interestingly enough, they don't seem to go down with their quotes as night goes on. Or I talked with the wrong ones!

The drinks are still $90 and up, btw.

Short Rib

08-09-08, 22:47

Carpediem,

I would love to go out with you to pick up the AR$ 300 chicks at Blacks. Seriously, I have never encountered them. Very hungry.

Short Rib

Carpediem

08-10-08, 15:06

There is a a variety of girls in Black. We all tend to look at the most attractive ones, of course. Those who are not so attractive are well aware of that. 300 pesos was a cute but a bit overweight girl whose name I unfortunatelly don't remember (on a short side, dark curly hair, large lips, big black eyes) I took her out once few months ago for the quoted price and she stayed for 3-4 hours, even sung me a lullaby:)

Carpediem,

I would love to go out with you to pick up the AR$ 300 chicks at Blacks. Seriously, I have never encountered them. Very hungry.

Short Rib

Member #3320

08-26-08, 10:11

Good day friends. Finally, I decided to "audit" Black, considering that its one of the most famous clubs of BA. However I had been literally been scared to go there after hearing about the astronomical prices. Its like when you know a "toy" is expensive, you don't even want to look at that "toy". My apprehension was more or less similar. However, I did decide to test the waters on a Monday night and here is my detailed story & review.

ENTERING THE CLUB: By foot. Actually, I got a little lost and thankfully met the Black's tout outside who politely ushered me in.

BUYING THE ENTRY FEES: It was 70 ARS. The guys at counter were very polite and welcomed me and even talked to me in English. They even asked me, who told me about Black!

LEAVING YOUR WARM WINTER JACKETS: You can leave your jackets at this counter where you buy the ticket. You don't have to pay anything for exchange of this service except a tip.

ACTUAL ENTRY INSIDE THE CLUB: You have to climb 2 flights of stairs to finally reach there. Not so nice, if you are not into athletics and sports!

TOILET FACILITIES: Excellent. Its on the first floor, one floor below the club. They are even selling mouth-freshers there.

FIRST IMPRESSION: Mixed reaction. I am saying this because for every gorgeous chick there, there are equally unattractive ones as well!

QUALITY OF GIRLS: Great. However, many unattractive chicas as well. Many 9's, 8's,7s! Many 5s too!

QUANTITY OF GIRLS: Close to 50 odd at 0030 hrs on a Monday evening / Tuesday Morning.

DRINK PRICES: The 70 ARS entry fee got me a free Rum & Cola. The ladies drink cost is 90 ARS. My subsequent drinks cost me the same, 70 ARS.

With drinks, they serve about 3 different types of free snacks as well, including peanuts and chips.

TALKING TO CHICAS: I talked to a few. They were all polite, sweet, gracious, but they all refused to quote their take-out price UNTIL a drink was bought for them.

The good thing was that no chica came on strongly. They gave me space and time to decide. Many chicas came & stood in front of me to attract me but they kept their distance and dint try too hard so as to annoy me. I liked that.

CLIENTS: Very few. Close to 25 odd on a Monday night. I spoke to some locals and they all told me that take-out price was, very expensive!BTW, I looked like the only outsider there among the locals.

SAFETY ISSUES : None at all. Perfectly safe place. No problem if you are a tourist or if you don't know Spanish. You can enter, stay, depart this club without any sort of hassles.

STRIP TEASE: I was too busy enjoying my drinks to really notice the strippers. But some stripping sort of thing was going on the stage but not of the class of strippers & stripping at Madahos.

MUSIC: Average (perhaps not to my taste)

DID I TAKE A CHICA?

Yes, after talking to 3 chicas, I decided to order a ladies drink for one of them. We chatted in Spanglish. She was a medical student completed 8 years of education and already doing residency, as final year. She claimed to be 30 years old though she looked 27 or so. She looked like a "9" under the dim lights. But because of her age, I will give her a "8".

We spoke for quite a while (She definitely sounded like a educated woman) Then she quoted her prices. She started with 300US$ for one Hour. I said, I wish I could afford that much but I really can't. She asked me for a 2nd drink. I said, I can't afford that also. She said to take out a girl, 2nd drink is necessary. I said in that case, I will not take out a girl! She said, she will request her manager to let her go with one drink only. Maybe, it was just a story for me but I think, one drink is enough to take out the girl. She had a long conversation with manager and the manger agreed to let her go with just one drink.

Then she literally pulled me up from the sofa and said "lets go". But I sad "I don't have 300 usd to give you!" she said "never mind"

We came down to first floor where I was asked to give a ARS 10 tip to the lady who kept her jacket. Then we came to ground floor where I collected my jacket and gave a ARS 2 tip.

The taxi was standing outside. I was alert enough to say, to put the meter on. The taxi driver was NOT happy to hear that. Arrived my home and taxi driver wanted a tip! I said, for what? He still kept 1 peso tip on his own! That is, he returned me 1 peso less in balance, from the money I gave him for the fare!

HOW MUCH DID I FINALLY PAY HER?

100 USD + 10 Ars as taxi fare. 100 USD was accepted by her with smile and no complaints.

HOW WAS THE SEX?

Average, no BBBJ or Cola or any such fancy stuff. However, stayed about 6 hours at my place. It was a good time spent sleeping with a smart, beautiful, educated woman! I thought to myself that when I want BBBJ or cola, I can have it at one of my favorite privados, anyway!

WILL I MEET HER AGAIN?

Yes, most likely. She even asked for & took my phone number & photo!She looked hot even when she was leaving despite 6 hours in bed.

WILL I GO TO BLACK AGAIN?

Yes, for sure as the first experience, it sure is very positive.

TOTAL EXPENDITURE?

100 usd (300 ARS) + 70 ARS + 90ARS + 10ARS + 10 ARS +2 ARS +15ARS + = 497 ARS.

Well, for me 497 ARS is a lot of money. I can have about 4 potentially good fucks at a privado for this money. However, like my learned friend, Mr MSCE would say, its not just about " fucky-fucky" act, its the experience of picking up a girl from a high profile club like Black!

So well, it was definitely worth it! The only sad part that I will be watching my "fuck-budget" for next 2-3 days to compensate the spending here.

WILL I RECOMMEND BLACK TO NEWBIES?

Yes, yes, yes. You must go there.Do not worry about the prices.As some mongers might say, I was just lucky! So who knows, you may get lucky as well!!

TRIVIA : When the ladies drink came to the table, the girl bringing it asked me for a tip. I gave her ARS 5. I was perhaps a bit drunk. I think a tip of ARS 2 should suffice. Also, before the ladies drink came, I confirmed the price as 90 ARS. The woman who brought the drinks did not want to take the payment immediately but I insisted. She said, to pay in all in the end. I said, no and I prefer "pay as you go" system!!!

The girls quote price for 1 hour. However, I think if you know your way about with women, they will usually stay for more than 1 hour with you because of the policy of BLACK, which does not require them to report back after the fuck.

ENJOY BA

Exon123

08-26-08, 13:46

Good report Captain, But a little advice.

The woman obviously liked you or she wouldn't have spent 6 hours with you. And it sounds like you'd like to see her again.

So in order to avoid the high overhead of Black call her and arrainge an appointment on her off hours at Black. That way you'll not have to pay the drink money which add's up quickly. Your locked in on pricing at $300 peso's, your price, which is very competitive for Black, this will not change.

Also the more you fuck her the more comfortable she'll she'll become with you and the BBBJ will come in time. Just keep gently offering it to her and she will respond.

Exon

Member #3320

08-26-08, 15:25

El Perro

08-26-08, 15:45

No, she didn't say she liked me! Sex was just about average and forgettable.

But, I am just wondering if other people also experienced similar pricing and similar hours of company in return?Captain,

My guess is that you are a nice fellow, present yourself with some version of class and do not appear dangerous. Thus the "discount" and sleepover from a gato who appreciates those qualities. Keep on keeping on.

Member #3320

08-26-08, 15:47

Captain-my guess is that you are a nice fellow, present yourself with some version of class and do not appear dangerous. Thus the "discount" and sleepover from a gato who appreciates those qualities. Keep on keeping on.Thank you for the good words.

Smuler

08-26-08, 23:57

Captain. Again, one of the better posts that I have read.

Well formatted. Giving the reader the feeling of being there.

Congrats on a good catch. I agree that it was probably not the norm, so you did very well.

Continued good luck, and thanks for posting.

Best Regards.

Smuler

QuakHunter

08-29-08, 11:01

Great report by the Captain. His experience is similar to my first visit in 1998. The sensory overload on the first visit is tremendous, and he captures the overall feel very well.

Black is not for everyone obviously; but it does have its place for infrequent visitors who only have Sex Prison as a benchmark.

Keep up the great reports.
Good day friends. Finally, I decided to "audit" Black, considering that its one of the most famous clubs of BA. However I had been literally been scared to go there after hearing about the astronomical prices. Its like when you know a "toy" is expensive, you don't even want to look at that "toy". My apprehension was more or less similar. However, I did decide to test the waters on a Monday night and here is my detailed story & review.

ENTERING THE CLUB: By foot. Actually, I got a little lost and thankfully met the Black's tout outside who politely ushered me in.

BUYING THE ENTRY FEES: It was 70 ARS. The guys at counter were very polite and welcomed me and even talked to me in English. They even asked me, who told me about Black!

LEAVING YOUR WARM WINTER JACKETS: You can leave your jackets at this counter where you buy the ticket. You don't have to pay anything for exchange of this service except a tip.

ACTUAL ENTRY INSIDE THE CLUB: You have to climb 2 flights of stairs to finally reach there. Not so nice, if you are not into athletics and sports!

TOILET FACILITIES: Excellent. Its on the first floor, one floor below the club. They are even selling mouth-freshers there.

FIRST IMPRESSION: Mixed reaction. I am saying this because for every gorgeous chick there, there are equally unattractive ones as well!

QUALITY OF GIRLS: Great. However, many unattractive chicas as well. Many 9's, 8's,7s! Many 5s too!

QUANTITY OF GIRLS: Close to 50 odd at 0030 hrs on a Monday evening / Tuesday Morning.

DRINK PRICES: The 70 ARS entry fee got me a free Rum & Cola. The ladies drink cost is 90 ARS. My subsequent drinks cost me the same, 70 ARS.

With drinks, they serve about 3 different types of free snacks as well, including peanuts and chips.

TALKING TO CHICAS: I talked to a few. They were all polite, sweet, gracious, but they all refused to quote their take-out price UNTIL a drink was bought for them.

The good thing was that no chica came on strongly. They gave me space and time to decide. Many chicas came & stood in front of me to attract me but they kept their distance and din't try too hard so as to annoy me. I liked that.

CLIENTS: Very few. Close to 25 odd on a Monday night. I spoke to some locals and they all told me that take-out price was, very expensive! BTW, I looked like the only outsider there among the locals.

SAFETY ISSUES: None at all. Perfectly safe place. No problem if you are a tourist or if you don't know Spanish. You can enter, stay, depart this club without any sort of hassles.

STRIP TEASE: I was too busy enjoying my drinks to really notice the strippers. But some stripping sort of thing was going on the stage but not of the class of strippers & stripping at Madahos.

MUSIC: Average (perhaps not to my taste)

DID I TAKE A CHICA?

Yes, after talking to 3 chicas, I decided to order a ladies drink for one of them. We chatted in Spanglish. She was a medical student completed 8 years of education and already doing residency, as final year. She claimed to be 30 years old though she looked 27 or so. She looked like a "9" under the dim lights. But because of her age, I will give her a "8".

We spoke for quite a while (She definitely sounded like a educated woman) Then she quoted her prices. She started with 300US$ for one Hour. I said, I wish I could afford that much but I really can't. She asked me for a 2nd drink. I said, I can't afford that also. She said to take out a girl, 2nd drink is necessary. I said in that case, I will not take out a girl! She said, she will request her manager to let her go with one drink only. Maybe, it was just a story for me but I think, one drink is enough to take out the girl. She had a long conversation with manager and the manger agreed to let her go with just one drink.

Then she literally pulled me up from the sofa and said "lets go". But I sad "I don't have 300 usd to give you!" she said "never mind"

We came down to first floor where I was asked to give a ARS 10 tip to the lady who kept her jacket. Then we came to ground floor where I collected my jacket and gave a ARS 2 tip.

The taxi was standing outside. I was alert enough to say, to put the meter on. The taxi driver was NOT happy to hear that. Arrived my home and taxi driver wanted a tip! I said, for what? He still kept 1 peso tip on his own! That is, he returned me 1 peso less in balance, from the money I gave him for the fare!

HOW MUCH DID I FINALLY PAY HER?

100 USD + 10 Ars as taxi fare. 100 USD was accepted by her with smile and no complaints.

HOW WAS THE SEX?

Average, no BBBJ or Cola or any such fancy stuff. However, stayed about 6 hours at my place. It was a good time spent sleeping with a smart, beautiful, educated woman! I thought to myself that when I want BBBJ or cola, I can have it at one of my favorite privados, anyway!

WILL I MEET HER AGAIN?

Yes, most likely. She even asked for & took my phone number & photo! She looked hot even when she was leaving despite 6 hours in bed.

WILL I GO TO BLACK AGAIN?

Yes, for sure as the first experience, it sure is very positive.

TOTAL EXPENDITURE?

100 usd (300 ARS) + 70 ARS + 90ARS + 10ARS + 10 ARS +2 ARS +15ARS + = 497 ARS.

Well, for me 497 ARS is a lot of money. I can have about 4 potentially good fucks at a privado for this money. However, like my learned friend, Mr MSCE would say, its not just about " fucky-fucky" act, its the experience of picking up a girl from a high profile club like Black!

So well, it was definitely worth it! The only sad part that I will be watching my "fuck-budget" for next 2-3 days to compensate the spending here.

WILL I RECOMMEND BLACK TO NEWBIES?

Yes, yes, yes. You must go there. Do not worry about the prices. As some mongers might say, I was just lucky! So who knows, you may get lucky as well!

TRIVIA: When the ladies drink came to the table, the girl bringing it asked me for a tip. I gave her ARS 5. I was perhaps a bit drunk. I think a tip of ARS 2 should suffice. Also, before the ladies drink came, I confirmed the price as 90 ARS. The woman who brought the drinks did not want to take the payment immediately but I insisted. She said, to pay in all in the end. I said, no and I prefer "pay as you go" system!

The girls quote price for 1 hour. However, I think if you know your way about with women, they will usually stay for more than 1 hour with you because of the policy of BLACK, which does not require them to report back after the fuck.

ENJOY BA

Wiild

08-29-08, 17:46

Thanks for a very good report Captain: I think detailed reports of the club, drink prices, tipping etc are very useful.

I have observed the same thing as you when it comes to tipping: when you take out a girl, then EVERYONE tries to take advantage and asks for big tips: I am sure many guys are just so horny + concerned that the girl will think you are cheap if you don't tip + want to avoid hassle = many guys are overpaying tips when leaving.

Member #3320

08-29-08, 18:00

Rock Harders

09-14-08, 16:29

Mongers,

I made a stop in here last night with Erkinator73 at about 2am after a brief visit to NewPort, which was shitty. No cover at the ground level entryway, but drinks upstairs at the bar $70 AR, $85 AR for a drink using top shelf liquor. There were at least 50-60 pieces of ass roaming around at this hour, with many, many impressive looking chicas. Also, very few male customers, maybe 15 maximum. There was a rotating show of about 8-10 different strippers / dancers on the varous stages and also coming up to the high top tables attempting to dance for tips. One of the dancers, Analia, was a many-time participant and one-time winner in the El Alamo Bikini Contest (see photos in thread) When she came up to my table to dance I asked her if she recognized me and she said yes, and the first thing she said was "me opere", proudly showing off her not-so-newly minted rock hard looking fake rack.

Anyway, I had my eye on Carolina (this is NOT Carolina formerly of Newport) who I fucked almost three years ago out of Madahos and who I had seen working a year and a half ago at La Lopez. She had gotten a very nice set of tits put in since I had fucked her, which I had seen on her at La Lopez. She told me she had't worked anywhere in 10 months because she was in a serious accident while riding in a bus to Rosario and was bed-ridden for 3 months. This was only her second day at Black; lucky me. After lots of chamuyo and a pair of $90 AR chica drinks (Erkinator had found himself a nice chica appropriate to his taste) the four of us headed over to my office to get the chicas more liquored up before doing the deed. No discussion of money ever took place between Carolina and I; I think Erkinator settled for $450 AR.

Back at the apartment, things went excellent, with total GFE and after 5 minutes we were both ass naked on the couch going at it. She was soaking wet in no time (I think she hadn't fucked in months) and after my roommate and his girl walked in to find me and the chica naked on the couch we went to the bedroom. We started going at it again, and I resume trying to penetrate her bareback, and she continues resisting. She is really craving it at this point and after some bullshitting on my part "I won't come inside, look at me, I'm in perfect health, I get a blood test every month, etc" she lets me put it in raw and the fun begins. I had forgot how small and tight this girls pussy is after so much time; it was hard to get it all the way in there. She started riding me very fast and hard and made herself come after a few minutes, then I fucked her for awhile in missionary and turned her around again for the big finish in doggy with the customary cumshot all over her ass and back.

These are the kind of experiences I monger for; no talk of money, an overall experience like I had been fucking her as my girlfriend for years. This girl has a great body, excellent fake tits that I had a hard time believing came from Argentina because they are so soft. On her way out, I slipped $300 AR in her pocket. On another note, Black is expensive but not more than Madahos with a higher bar level of chicas. Its the sort of place you go only a few times a year if you live here.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

Bacchus9

09-18-08, 23:34

Jesus! Black is cheaper than Madaho and they're packed in there like a herd of gazelles. I may have to take Black off my blacklist.

Member #3320

09-18-08, 23:41

You have to go to Black with a open mind. Walk in with confidence. Walk in as if you have a million bucks in your pocket. Chances are high that you will meet a woman who will fuck you for 300 pesos.

However, if you walk in like a miser and in awe of the place and with a miserly mentality, chances are high that you will not not get laid that night because the chicas are going to ask you for 300 USD!

Chicas in Black have a amazing sense of filtering out the boys from the men!!

Go alone here, avoid going with a bunch of other mongers. Don't be ashamed that your knowledge of Castellano is still mediocre. Call all the shots, behave in style, behave like a man & not a loser,talk to them like you have the world in your pocket!! Carry a lot of change with you, lot of 10's and 20's Dont get drunk & stupid. Be in control, all the time & you will get amazing results at Black, the hippest whorehouse in Argentina & allegedly among the top 3 in Southern hemisphere.

Paradiso666

09-21-08, 12:19

Member #3320

09-21-08, 13:13

Yesterday I made it to Black. After a shit taxi ride with an asshole of a tax driver that didn't have change after I gave him Ps 20 for a 12 ps ride.

Went upstairs and saw something that reminded me of Rio de J's HELP, only a lot smaller and a lot more expensive. It was crowded with beautiful girls, all with fake tits and small asses. I myself prefer bigger Brasilian style asses.

The moment I sat down, girls were swarming around me like sharks. They tried to make eye contact, sometimes by standing straight in front of me but I just looked passed them. I saw a very nice girl I was really interested in but then I saw she smoked and I just don't like that. In the end I fell in lust with two of the pall dancers, one of which a dark skinned girl. I asked her rates for going out but she said she doesn't do that. After again trying to ignore ugly girls staring at me, I decided to leave alone. No regrets though. If I want to take home a girl, it should really be a stunner. I'm not desperate enough to accept anything less. Total damage: 20 (taxi) + 70 (entrance) + 140 (2 beers) + 80 (whiskey) + 12 (taxi) = 332. It was a night well spent but to my opinion Black cannot compete in anyway with HELP or Barbarella in Rio, let alone the thermas like 4x4 and centaurus. Rio is by far my favourite city in the worldParadiso,

You can not compare Thai food to Italian or Argentine food to Indian. Each has its own flavor & taste. Right?

Now you are in Argentina, for few days forget about Rio and stop trying to compare everything with Rio. Just try to enjoy the great things this city of BA has to offer without being pessimistic and grumbling on what it does NOT offer!

For getting the most from "Black" you need to go on Monday evening. Thats the day when there are maximum number of girls and least number of clients. Friday, Sat, Sun are the worst days to visit Black. This is because these are days (cos of business strategies which are a bit complicated to explain you right here), the choice of girls is not right. I recommend going on a Monday for striking good lower priced deals or going on a Wednesday or Thursday to see Black in full swing though you may be paying more on these days.

Finally, remember many of the Black chikas (those who come on weekdays) are very classy, with degrees and loads of sophistication which is definitely not the case with chicas from Help or 4 x 4 (Looks/sexy asses aren't everything in Mongering!)

Trust this little note from me would bring out more respectful posts from you in context of mongering in the great city of buenos aires.

Cheers

P.s : No need to pay taxi driver 20 pesos if the bill is 12 pesos. They always try to portray that they don't have change but you have to at times , be a bit stern with them, so that they know they aren't dealing with a chicken! Once they know that, they usually behave themselves. However, this doesn't mean that you pick up a fight with them either!!

Carry lot of change with you, when you go to "Black" or "Madhos". Lot of 2's, 5's & 10's

Cordoba Dan

09-21-08, 13:38

Hi Paradiso and Captain,

Are these drink prices for real? Yikes! On a trip to Madaho's, I recall 1 drink included with entry fee, but from Paradiso's post, I take it no such thing occurs at Black. Also, there was a post mentioning free entry passes available at EZE to Black. Does anyone know if that is still available and where they can be picked up? I completely get that going here is not value mongering but every little bit, right gents.

CD

Paradiso666

09-21-08, 13:39

Dear Captain.

I do appreciate the fact that you are trying to motivate me towards a more positive look on BA, really, appreciated. But I don't think there is anything wrong with comparing to be honest. And I have deep respect for their achievements, but I like to fuck a girls ass or pussy, not their titles.

But in between the lines I read a genuine and honest attempt to give BA what it deserves so I will follow up on your advice. Are you going in Monday?

And about the taxi driver, i was pretty stern and the cab driver even got in to BLACK to try to change while leaving his cab running and unattended. However, the cashier of black aslo could not help and after the doorman even checked his own wallet, i was tired of the circus and decided to forget about the 2 eur tip

@Cordoba: yes the entrance fee entitles you to one free drink but after that, drinks are 70 (beer) or more (whiskey, 80)

Breakawaytx

09-21-08, 20:40

I was there last night. The talent was an order of magnitude lower than on my last visit two years ago. In fact, I think that some of the girls might very well have spent the two intervening years smoking at the bar, based on their worn and tired appearances.

It made me sad to see Black fallen so low. I had my drink and departed before I succumbed to sentimentality for the old days and took one anyway.

BTW, the girls were more aggressive than the touts outside. Not exactly a turn-on unless it happens to be the exact girl who interests you. Surely management can understand this and has the sense to rein in the house pigs. If I wanted to deal with that, I'd go to the Triangle.

Master J

09-21-08, 21:14

I have rarely if ever been disappointed at Black so I will try on Monday. Wonder if a " Code Red " could be organizer where we short the market collectively. Strength in numbers.

Paradiso666

09-21-08, 21:28

Then I must have seen you breakaway!

Member #3320

09-21-08, 21:35

I was also there last night to do a check on you guys!

All of you were siting with chicas with drinks & enjoying yourself to glory!

Breakawaytx

09-21-08, 21:39

then I must have seen you breakaway!LOL, perhaps. I was the guy paying close attention to my drink and the dancers overhead in a desperate attempt to avoid making irreversible eye contact with one of the 5's in attendance. Oh wait, that describes most of us!:-)

Paradiso666

09-21-08, 21:59

LOL exactly! Too bad the dancer (the dark skinned one) did not want to go the hotel with me, I was totally hypnotized by that ass. At one point, I had a feeling it talked to me and we understood each other. That was the point I dediced to talk the owner of that ass but unfortunately she didnt want to go

Breakawaytx

09-21-08, 22:06

Member #3320

09-22-08, 01:47

I have rarely if ever been disappointed at Black so I will try on Monday. Wonder if a " Code Red " could be organizer where we short the market collectively. Strength in numbers.Now, I am not suggesting that the entire traffic of Argentina private should arrive at "Black" on the Monday night. That is a sure recipe for disaster. Monday night's charm lies in few clients and large number of girls. Keep that ratio in check please!;-)

Master J

09-22-08, 01:56

Duly noted. Perhaps the tactic of Troy would be more appropriate. I just thought a rumour of a grand fiesta for the few select would create a flurry of interest. I get a feeling something kooky will be happening.

Paradiso666

09-22-08, 10:29

Now, I am not suggesting that the entire traffic of Argentina private should arrive at "Black" on the Monday night. That is a sure recipe for disaster. Monday night's charm lies in few clients and large number of girls. Keep that ratio in check please!;-)To be honest I prefer a slightly higher guys to girls ration. When I was there the first hour I was almost the only guy (2 more guys sitting at the bar) Then you really feel surrounded. Later, some guys dropped in and there was a little less scrutiny

Member #3320

09-23-08, 05:18

Master J

09-23-08, 13:23

Quite the opposite for me. As I have said before, I usually have a great time here. I don't go here expecting to pull anyone out of here, rather to look at outstanding dancers and very attractive well dressed girls. For me it's a show and maybe I get extremely lucky.

I entered around 1:15 and the was a sparse crowd yet plenty to look out. Ordered my corona, which then came in a mug, (switch? For 70 ARS and she said tip was not included. I say give me some time and she then proceeded to earn it by keeping station clean.

Anyway the usual flirting with the eyes, plenty of looks and there were many sold 8 and up present. The quality of girls waere fine. The dancers were really as closed to playboy material, perhaps minus the tits, but great asses, face, and movement. Why I like this place is if you step back and watch you can see beautiful South American girls, 5 at a time on the bar dancing and the movement is sensual, graceful, and professional.

Around 2:15 there was absolutely stunning girls with her friends and I made some small talk, but she was breathtaking as was her friend. She did not really seem to interested in me, but it was great to see a real innocent modelo type.

A little later and here is what I think the true value of this place is about At the end of the bar there were two chicas who all of a sudden started dancing up a storm when some brazilllian music came on. I mean they were shaking their bootys. The other girls were clapping and for about 20 minutes this was what was on. They all forgot about making plays and were only into the music and having fun. I mean I was in Rio again and the mix of the music, girls, costumes, and onda was all good. It was cool.

I was asked once from a girl to buy her a drink, but I said perhaps another night. She was fine and friendly.

So in comparison for my 80 plus 30 taxi I got to see really a great display of South American women, enjoyed the smile and shake routine, and if you don't try to be a player here, rather spectator, I think it beats the Las Vegas Spearmint Rhino, OG scene. I think they give you plenty of entertainment here, first rate.

Repeat you really have to know what you are doing here if not you will find yourself at a table ordering drinks and it will be 400 ars before you know it. Even 1 drink at 140 I don't think buys you much time. I think the girls make it on drinks, and probably are picky about who they leave with. They will definatley hose you here if you do not say exactly what you want. I had 1 drink for the night, sufficient for me.

I shall return, probably Tuesday. Tourism definateley down and obviously effecting the place. When I left there 50 to 10 ratio.

Gauntlet77

09-24-08, 15:33

I was also there on Monday night. First time, except for about 5 minutes a couple of years ago when I was on the way to dinner with a visitor from USA. He wanted to go up and complain to management about the US$2,000 bill he had run up on the previous night. They had charged him for things he didn't remember ordering.

Well, I think the management's predatory practices are still the same.

While I read this board frequently, I don't recall anyone pointing out that the chicas are under management directive not to negotiate price until you've bought them a drink. The chica drinks on Monday night were 90 pesos. Who knows what they'll be by this Friday? Big surprise to me and I associate this practice with hardcore scam joints like Play. If this is new, then be forewarned.

Also, be forewarned that the bar fine for taking the girl out is two drinks. I assumed it would be one drink like Madaho's and La Lopez and the Triangle. I am at fault for not checking before buying the first drink.

I got hustled by several chicas, none of whom were tempting except for a cute young Paraguayan and a tanned beauty in a green party dress, N. The Paraguayan followed the house directive and refused to discuss price unless I bought her a drink. I said ciao. N. ,after some urging, relented and negotiated a reasonable peso price not the ridiculous US$ price she was hoping for. During the negotiations, she was casting her eyes around the room anxiously and made me promise not to tell anyone she had agreed on price before the first drink. When the waitress brought the drink, the young Paraguayan still standing nearby was throwing darts at N. with her eyes.

I think business is slow and competition will make the house directive difficult to enforce.

Notwithstanding her stealing a customer from the Paraguayan, N.proved to be a good company girl, urging tips for all the staff and insisting I buy overpriced condoms from the cloakroom girl. (She didn't have any and I had just run out.)

I finally came to my senses in the taxi. N. was beginning to get greedy and was starting an upselling routine about how the agreed price was for basic service only. I didn't wait to listen to anymore of this crap and told the taxi driver to stop. I asked her to get out. She wouldn't budge. We were stopped at Lopez and Junin. There was a line up of taxis at the corner so I graciously stepped out and wished her luck.

I immediately proceeded to the Triangle and encountered one of my favorites from my visit 6 months ago. She looked gorgeous and fresh as an orchid flown from Paraguay. No money or terms were discussed. She gave me one of the best full GFE sessions of my life and stayed in my arms until noon of the next day. Over breakfast, she didn't hit me up for more money; she didn't mention money at all. I slipped her US$100 and a substantial tip.

From the clutches of a scamming ***** to the sweet caresses of a princess. Aint life strange?

Name of the princess? Don't even bother asking. She's now at the top of my rota and you cocksuckers won't get the info until I leave.

However, check the Catto's and Hook threads for other chica recommendations I will post in the next day or two.

Wild Walleye

09-24-08, 16:32

Was it Lorena from Catto's? I'd have to agree with your assessment.

Had the same general experience with Madahos two weeks ago (two nights, lots of $) had much better luck finding the only nice looing one in Catto's.

I was also there on Monday night. First time, except for about 5 minutes a couple of years ago when I was on the way to dinner with a visitor from USA. He wanted to go up and complain to management about the US$2,000 bill he had run up on the previous night. They had charged him for things he didn't remember ordering.

Well, I think the management's predatory practices are still the same.

While I read this board frequently, I don't recall anyone pointing out that the chicas are under management directive not to negotiate price until you've bought them a drink. The chica drinks on Monday night were 90 pesos. Who knows what they'll be by this Friday? Big surprise to me and I associate this practice with hardcore scam joints like Play. If this is new, then be forewarned.

Also, be forewarned that the bar fine for taking the girl out is two drinks. I assumed it would be one drink like Madaho's and La Lopez and the Triangle. I am at fault for not checking before buying the first drink.

I got hustled by several chicas, none of whom were tempting except for a cute young Paraguayan and a tanned beauty in a green party dress, N. The Paraguayan followed the house directive and refused to discuss price unless I bought her a drink. I said ciao. N. After some urging, relented and negotiated a reasonable peso price not the ridiculous US$ price she was hoping for. During the negotiations, she was casting her eyes around the room anxiously and made me promise not to tell anyone she had agreed on price before the first drink. When the waitress brought the drink, the young Paraguayan still standing nearby was throwing darts at N. With her eyes.

I think business is slow and competition will make the house directive difficult to enforce.

Notwithstanding her stealing a customer from the Paraguayan, N. Proved to be a good company girl, urging tips for all the staff and insisting I buy overpriced condoms from the cloakroom girl. (She didn't have any and I had just run out.

I finally came to my senses in the taxi. N. Was beginning to get greedy and was starting an upselling routine about how the agreed price was for basic service only. I didn't wait to listen to anymore of this crap and told the taxi driver to stop. I asked her to get out. She wouldn't budge. We were stopped at Lopez and Junin. There was a line up of taxis at the corner so I graciously stepped out and wished her luck.

I immediately proceeded to the Triangle and encountered one of my favorites from my visit 6 months ago. She looked gorgeous and fresh as an orchid flown from Paraguay. No money or terms were discussed. She gave me one of the best full GFE sessions of my life and stayed in my arms until noon of the next day. Over breakfast, she didn't hit me up for more money; she didn't mention money at all. I slipped her US$100 and a substantial tip.

From the clutches of a scamming ***** to the sweet caresses of a princess. Aint life strange?

Name of the princess? Don't even bother asking. She's now at the top of my rota and you cocksuckers won't get the info until I leave.

However, check the Catto's and Hook threads for other chica recommendations I will post in the next day or two.

Gauntlet77

09-24-08, 16:42

SmokedHam

09-25-08, 03:02

Hi guys,

I made a visit last night. It was quite disappointing. The quality of chicks were very poor and surprisingly too many clients on Monday nite. Many expats and many locals.

I was shocked by myself because I did not find a single girl who was attractive enough to take out!I went last night around 11:30 pm. The Chica / Customer ratio much have been around 10:1. I felt like fresh meat about 3 minutes after I walked through the door. Everywhere I turned multiple women were trying to catch my attention, strangely enough a bit of a turn off, sort of smacked of desperation. Aside from the dancers and one of the bartenders I didn't find any of the women really that attractive aside from a woman who had already been snagged by a guy and some woman who seemed locked in a serious conversation with another woman on the steps that led up to the bar.

My only other experience in a club in BA has been Ness, which I found to be cheaper, more relaxed, and more like it was set up for locals. All of the music I heard at Black was American dance music which is ok I guess but at Ness most of the music was from BA or at least Latin America. And in comparing the women in Black to Ness, I think there were actually a few more at Ness (aside from Black's dancers) who I would have taken home.

In total I stayed for about 30 minutes at Black, spoke to about 3 women during that time, and since no one thrilled me, I finished my beer that came with the entry fee and took off alone.

Master J

09-25-08, 19:56

I got hustled by several chicas, none of whom were tempting except for a cute young Paraguayan and a tanned beauty in a green party dress, N. The Paraguayan followed the house directive and refused to discuss price unless I bought her a drink. I said ciao. N. After some urging, relented and negotiated a reasonable peso price not the ridiculous US$ price she was hoping for. During the negotiations, she was casting her eyes around the room anxiously and made me promise not to tell anyone she had agreed on price before the first drink. When the waitress brought the drink, the young Paraguayan still standing nearby was throwing darts at N. With her eyes.

I finally came to my senses in the taxi.I was a partial witness to this event and am delighted to hear the outcome. When I stepped in it was like a top of the seventh 1-5 and then see a rally for a 9-5 victory is one for home teem.

Special recognition should be given on two counts. One for knowing when to bail, a mistake so many of have not made before, but also to carry on and rally to find a better chica. And a keeper at that. Kudos to you.

Stan Da Man

09-25-08, 21:19

I went last night around 11:30 pm. The Chica / Customer ratio much have been around 10:1. I felt like fresh meat about 3 minutes after I walked through the door. Everywhere I turned multiple women were trying to catch my attention, strangely enough a bit of a turn off, sort of smacked of desperation. Aside from the dancers and one of the bartenders I didn't find any of the women really that attractive aside from a woman who had already been snagged by a guy and some woman who seemed locked in a serious conversation with another woman on the steps that led up to the bar.

My only other experience in a club in BA has been Ness, which I found to be cheaper, more relaxed, and more like it was set up for locals. All of the music I heard at Black was American dance music which is ok I guess but at Ness most of the music was from BA or at least Latin America. And in comparing the women in Black to Ness, I think there were actually a few more at Ness (aside from Black's dancers) who I would have taken home.

In total I stayed for about 30 minutes at Black, spoke to about 3 women during that time, and since no one thrilled me, I finished my beer that came with the entry fee and took off alone.My sentiments exactly on Black. I've really tried to give this place every benefit of the doubt. It has such a lofty reputation. But, I've gone back three separate times on three different trips over the past year. On the first occasion, I found a decent (not stunning) chica but never got past the initial phase of negotiation. I said: 'You get paid at the end.' She insisted on getting paid up front. That wasn't going to happen, so I moved on and eventually left.

The second trip, I also got the fresh meat feeling. Normally, I would think this would be a dream come true but it's somehow uncomfortable. In my experience, it is very much like the boliche's in Brazil, where they can't sit and talk to you until you invite them over. As a consequence, they stare at you intently to try to get that invite. Until you get used to this, it's disconcerting. I spent an hour at Black like this and then left.

This last trip, I simply didn't see anything worth taking out. I would agree with another post earlier that stated that the chicas at Black tend to dress better than at most of the other boliches. But, if you look closely at most of the chicas (past the war paint and the tribal garb) they're not of the caliber you'd expect if you're going to have to part with $200 - $300. On my last trip, there were probably 100 girls and a 5-1 ratio, but there was nothing that sparked much interest. I'm a little picky, but not overly so.

As a consequence, I won't patronize the place again -- not because of prices but because the place lacks quality. Other mongers surely will disagree but, in terms of quality chicas, I've had much better luck at Madaho's and even La Lopez this past trip (August) I know these aren't the most popular places on this board, but if you're looking for a wide array of top caliber girls and don't mind the prices, I think they're both better than Black.

Gipse

09-26-08, 05:10

BadMan

09-26-08, 05:12

I have yet to step foot in Black. After all this discussion, I want to see it for myself next week. It will probably be my first and last visit. What would be a good day of the week to visit this place?Opinions differ on this, but the general consensus is Tuesday thru Thursday.

Girls will always try to charge you $ 300 US, but they can be had for less.

Regards,

BM

Rock Harders

09-26-08, 06:52

Mongers,

I concur with BM that Tuesday through Thursday are the best mongering nights at Black (and essentially all Buenos Aires hooker bars) as there are the most chicas available and all the top talent are always on duty those days. However, at Black there should be talent on Friday and Saturday nights as well, because per house rules the chicas must work at least 5 nights per week. As for pricing, you will now have to pay $180 AR in chicas drinks plus the $70 AR mandatory monger's drink in order to get one of the chicas out the door (although the chicas do not have to return, so TLN a possibility) So you are looking at at least $250 AR in fees before the agreed upon chica compensation. A solid stategy to keep pricing from reaching the stratosphere is to open negotiations with the price you are willing to pay. The chica will always try to push for at least $200 USD (more if you let her throw her price out first) but with insisting you can get her down to $150 USD ($450 AR) Market conditions in Black are always in favor of the Mongers and believe me there are plenty of chicas who will go for even less than that, but NEVER for anything less than $100 USD or $300 AR. I was in here with Erkinator recently and he is no prince charming, and he was able to get the girl to go for $450 AR.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

Daddy Rulz

09-26-08, 11:12

In my experience, it is very much like the boliche's in Brazil, where they can't sit and talk to you until you invite them over. As a consequence, they stare at you intently to try to get that invite. Until you get used to this, it's disconcerting.Black is expensive, overpriced for years, Tues, Wed and Thur are best, and yes bargaining can be done. Talent can be spotty, my best AND worst experiance came from this place.

As far as the staring though, I wish more clubs adopted this policy. Have a drink at Black then go to Solid Gold then tell me which you prefer. Cattos is ok as it's usually the odd request but some of the other clubs with their steady stream of "buy me a drinks" or in the case of Solid Gold the non stop assault go far beyond nuisance. I'll take the looks and dancing asses an inch from my face any day.

SanMichele

10-27-08, 13:31

I was there last night got quoted 600ARS for 1hr. All included. BBBJ request was made and the answer was a positvely YES on her part, with much gusto!

Nicol was the girl, qute and sweet looking was the face, hot and sweaty (when we were done) was the body.

NOW! Before anyone flames me here for paying too much the chicas a little note:

I do not pay the chica to have fun! I pay (read reward) myself! For me that experience is worth it and I will pay for it.

I really find the Black girls more my taste. Madahos seams plastic fantastic, NewPort MILFy territory, Cocodrillo a bread crums with the occasional whole slice thrown in. My 3.25ARG cents

Rioboy1

10-27-08, 13:46

There is no pussy in town worth that much!

Last time there I payed ONLY $250US for 2hrs.

I feel you got a bum deal considering that you pay so much in fees to get in and bar fees on top.

I'll see you at my watering hole Cocodrillo!

Suerte

BadMan

10-27-08, 15:03

I completely agree. Don't worry much about what other punters think or write.

Everyone has their own punting philosophies and their own discretionary budgets for chicas. And as the term implies, it is up to your own discretion.

I have had fun with a couple $ 200 AR hotties as well as some $ 600 AR hotties. It is just the luck of the draw. In the end I personally prefer the high end low mileage poon.;)

Keep posting.

Regards,

BM

I do not pay the chica to have fun! I pay (read reward) myself! For me that experience is worth it and I will pay for it.

I really find the Black girls more my taste. Madahos seams plastic fantastic.

QuakHunter

10-27-08, 15:28

Before anyone flames me here for paying too much the chicas a little note:

I do not pay the chica to have fun! I pay (read reward) myself! For me that experience is worth it and I will pay for it.Four of us travel to Cordoba to hunt every year via several days in Buenos Aires. We have hit most clubs and find Black to be the best. Expensive? Yes. Worth it? Yes, depending on what you are looking for. I have pulled at least thirty chicas out of here in the last decade and none have disappointed. I never measured any of these experiences based on what I paid and frankly can't remember anyway after the flight home. Storing memories for the Spank Bank is essentially a bonus.

Daniel appears to have complete control over the club and it seems everyone there knows what is expected. We have tried Madahos, Shampoo and some others, but we always return to Black because it is more comfortable and friendly. Daniel caters to a customer base that enjoys a certain experience and he knows exactly what he is doing. That is why we return every year and will continue.

If Walt Disney was a monger and were to open an Adult Themed Club, it would be like Black. While some like the tea cup ride at the fair, I prefer the Matterhorn and will pay for it.

But of course I still get Blow Jobs during the day at Cafe Orleans for $150AR. It's kind of like shopping for underwear at Wal Mart vs. Saks. They both support your balls needs, but at different costs and very few notice anyway.

Suerte

Gauntlet77

10-27-08, 23:29

I am happy that you had a good time with her. At least Nicole is decent looking and I can understand why you might spring for the 600 pesos.

If we are talking about the same Nicole, brunette, Portena, mid 20's, the bad news is that she was going to do me for 400 pesos. That's right, if you had negotiated a little bit, I see no reason you couldn't have gotten her for the same price, especially on a Sunday night. For 600 pesos you should have gotten TLN.

I bailed on her in the taxi cause I was just getting a little tired of the Black's scam routine. In my previous post, I didn't mention that the taxi driver tried to pull the "forgot to turn on the meter" trick. When she started fishing for extra money for time and pictures, I had had enough.

I think that Black's and all their employees / associates assume that anyone who is dumb enough or rich enough or desperate enough to go there and pay their prices is a mark with a "kick me" sign on his back.

Anyways glad you had a good time. But you can get better for less.

I was there last night got quoted 600ARS for 1hr. All included. BBBJ request was made and the answer was a positvely YES on her part, with much gusto!

Nicol was the girl, qute and sweet looking was the face, hot and sweaty (when we were done) was the body.

NOW! Before anyone flames me here for paying too much the chicas a little note:

I do not pay the chica to have fun! I pay (read reward) myself! For me that experience is worth it and I will pay for it.

I really find the Black girls more my taste. Madahos seams plastic fantastic, NewPort MILFy territory, Cocodrillo a bread crums with the occasional whole slice thrown in. My 3.25ARG cents

TejanoLibre

10-28-08, 01:29

Yes my fellow mongers, TLN Gratis.5 times from none other than BLACKS!

The girl never even asked me for a single centavo.

Unfortunately it was the same girl all 5 times but she is an absolute 10 to these tired eyes. (you guys would think that she is a fucking 15!)

Just joking! No tits but I could care less. I am an ass man TLN!

Italian, Yugoslavian, Blonde, 24 years old, electric, blue-green eyes. Super ¨honda ¨!

Just a killer, ultra cool chica!

My absolute favorite Argentine. From Rosario. (where else?)

Collects guns, knives and races motorcycles! Her father is a Prefectura Dude.

WOW! Marry her in a fucking minute I would.

I am still working on that part of the deal. Need to get her to move in first.

Why kiss and tell?

Best I have felt in years. Think about it. An Argentine girl that never asks you for money and prefers COMPLETO over regular!

HOLY SHIT BATMAN!

My kind of girl!

I would post pics if I knew how to do so.

It does not get any better than this.

I'm just saying pay if you must, but if you can baffle them with bullshit you will have a much better time!

Take Care Boys,

RAMIRO

Master J

10-28-08, 01:33

I think that Black's and all their employees / associates assume that anyone who is dumb enough or rich enough or desperate enough to go there and pay their prices is a mark with a "kick me" sign on his back.

I think for Gringos it might be neon and blinking!

What I do not understand is they stand around with their girlfriends all night versus leaving with something in hand at least.

The power of negotiation still is a two way street.

Rioboy1

10-28-08, 10:08

Master J,

You are correct, I do not have anything else to add to your comment. You are 105% correct.

Rioboy

SanMichele

10-28-08, 10:33

Let me tell you guys a story. Recent story. Has nothing to do with the forum per se. Apple, you know the guys that make that neat little mp3 player (or aac player if you must) has a little store on iTunes where one buys something and you can read comments about the songs or software sold there.

Well, they changed the policy! If you actually BUY something and have a FIRST hand experience then you can put your 2c in! Otherwise JUST SHUT UP!

Is this about bitching about $ or is this about rating and giving honest information about the "product"? Get real people and keep things on the subject! You no like paying for yourselves that much, you have a LOW self esteem problem, well then whatever, you feel that you can go to other places and get happy, PERFECT! But why comment on something you did not experience? Why look at your roll to measure my stack?

Again, that is all I have to say about that! ~ well maybe not, we'll see.

Ciao.

P. S Jackson, I think this is why the forum gets wierd, it's all the sideline shit going on. Off the subject bickering.

QuakHunter

10-28-08, 12:48

I think that Black's and all their employees / associates assume that anyone who is dumb enough or rich enough or desperate enough to go there and pay their prices is a mark with a "kick me" sign on his back.That last kick I had in the ass there was great.

Since I am not rich, does that make me dumb or desperate? I guess my girl from Black that has flown to the states three times this year to see me at her expense and gets nothing from me must be rich because she isn't dumb. But maybe she's desparate, I just can't figure it out.

Nice Return on investment for me.

Art Vandalay

11-21-08, 10:44

I was at Black last month, with a friend, and when we left, the door man asked if we wanted a taxi. I said "Sure" thinking he was just going to hail a regular taxi for us. He claps his hand and this old man from down the street ran to a marked taxi and pulled up to pick us up. I had him take us to Rio Cabana. Half way on the trip I noticed the meter was not running. When I pointed it out to him he tried to reassure me it was ok and I would only have to pay a flat fee. When I asked what the flat fee was he said it was $30 AR. I knew this shouldn't be more than $14 to $17 AR for this journey and I began to make a scene in the cab. Even my buddy, who doesn't speak Spanish, understood what was going on and started interjecting. I told the taxi driver this was bullshit and this was way too much. I told him I did not like this game and he should've made this clear when we left Black. I told him to just drop us off on the street and he did. He left without trying to collect a dime. I wouldn't have given him a dime and had he pushed the issue I would have told him to call the police. I knew I was right and he knew he was wrong which was why I think he left so quickly. If you know you're right, stand your ground. Whether it's with a taxi driver or a *****. STAND YOUR GROUND!

Art

Jackson

11-21-08, 11:39

Half way on the trip I noticed the meter was not running. When I pointed it out to him he tried to reassure me it was ok and I would only have to pay a flat fee. When I asked what the flat fee was he said it was $30 AR. I knew this shouldn't be more than $14 to $17 AR for this journey and I began to make a scene in the cab. Even my buddy, who doesn't speak Spanish, understood what was going on and started interjecting. I told the taxi driver this was bullshit and this was way too much. I told him I did not like this game and he should've made this clear when we left Black. I told him to just drop us off on the street and he did. He left without trying to collect a dime. I wouldn't have given him a dime and had he pushed the issue I would have told him to call the police. I knew I was right and he knew he was wrong which was why I think he left so quickly. If you know you're right, stand your ground. Whether it's with a taxi driver or a *****. STAND YOUR GROUND!

ArtOr you could have waited calmly until you reached Rio Cabana and then simply have handed him 15 pesos and then told him to fuck off.

Art Vandalay

11-23-08, 12:20

I'll note that for next time. Thanks Jackson!

Or you could have waited calmly until you reached Rio Cabana and then simply have handed him 15 pesos and then told him to fuck off.

Esten

12-13-08, 15:45

Stopped in here Friday night. Intention was just a warm up visit before heading to another club, unless I found a good deal.

Entry fee was 80 pesos which included one drink. When I walked in around 12:30am I was impressed, the selection and quality was as high as I've ever seen it. Over the years I've seen it go up and down, moreso trending down. This night it was way up. About 100 chicas, a few 7s, most 8s and several 9s. And about 25 guys or a 4:1 ratio. I had no problem spotting a couple dozen I was interested in within the first 2 minutes.

The layout has changed just slightly, the long bar is not as long now, providing a little more floor room.

Tons of eye contact, at times too much. A few times early on, there were 5-10 girls standing nearby, all swaying a little to the music and flashing me a big smile while staring at me. They would just keep looking at you, especially if they got even a hint of a return glance of interest. Made me uncomfortable a little. Tried to tell some of them to look at the dancers, they're more interesting! Eventually they will look away and move away, but only to be replaced by different girls. After 30-45 minutes things got more normal.

Every 10 minutes or so a dancer would come over, but I quickly said no gracias before they could start dancing to avoid having to tip them. They all left with no issue, although one told me a bit coldly in english that I didn't have to say that, she was going to give me a free dance. Somehow I doubt that.

I talked with several girls. The first girl I asked about drinks seemed to indicate one drink might be possible to salir, but she can't promise because she is not authorized to give the official drink prices. I must speak with the "camarera" or whatever the hostess is called. So I did. The hostess said the cheapest chica drink was 120 pesos and you need to buy two of these to take the girl out. Holy cow batman! 240 pesos? I also confirmed there was not an intermediate option, like one 160 peso drink. Minimum was 240 pesos. A few girls I talked with later confirmed this. One asked me how much I would be willing to pay for her. I said I don't like to pay more than 500 pesos and she laughed and said oh no and went away.

Chica prices aside, on the basis of the chica drinks alone (to salir) Black has priced itself way above the competition. I mean Madahos is "only" 140 pesos. I had thought that Madahos was catching up with Black to be "the" premier upscale place to go. Looks like Black is now making a move in terms of the chica quality but also the prices to re-instate its lead in that title.

On my way out near 2am I noticed the crowd had thinned somewhat, especially the girls. I'd say there were maybe 20-30 girls less. I assume they were taken out. If they can get paying customers at those prices, good for them. Not me! The 240 pesos drink rule makes my decision here quite easy.

Exon123

12-13-08, 17:08

I'm alway's amazed that readers of this forum even go to these place's, Madaho's, Black and the like.

Expensive, shitty service, and just not worth it.

But if you must go here's what to do.

Pay the $80 peso's, thats about $24 USD Dollars for a drink, and make it last.

Then interview as many "Targets" as possible asking for their phone numbers or give out yours and quote no more than $300 peso's for daytime or early evening service.

Exon

Jimsorts

12-27-08, 22:52

Hello all, I am a newbie and I went to see Newports and Black with a friend a wingman.

DAY / HOUR: 200am Saturday Morning.

PURPOSE: to show my friend the famous Black see some women and to test my negotiating skills. I have been to Black on my own when I first arrived I just did recon and walked out. However tonight I wanted to see what the girls fee were and what the would do.

INITIAL IMPRESSION: We just walked in bypassed the desk where you pay the entrance fee and went straight upstairs to the bar about 30 girls and 8 clients seemed to be a slow night for some reason. Music Playing girl dancers about 4 of them on the tables. A good Vibe so me and my friend stayed.

WOMEN: Obvious high end place. Lots of 8 9 and 10 girls, dressed well and smelled great. There seemed to be around 35 girls and maybe 6 clients including my friend.

THE ENTRANCE FEE with Free Drink: Since the Bartender obvioulsly new we walked straight up with out buying our ticket she charged us 60 pesos for a simple beer.

WOMEN DRINKS: don't recall exactly but it must have been around 40 to 60 pesos for each girl.

NEGOTIATING: Was fun, we ended up with two Hot blondes and after an hour of negotiating and some touching (PG) we agreed upon a 4 some this included BBJ sin condom, anal, completo it would have cost us 600 pesos for the both of them, meaning 300pesos each. However they wanted to go to a hotel nearby which would cost 40 pesos in addition.

*Nothing against the girls they were very hot but I discouraged my friend to follow thru because it meant buying them one more drink and I thought we spent enough money as is tonight.

-So you must buy the girls 2 drinks, cost around 40-70 pesos (sorry don't recall exactly)

-the deal was: 300 peso per girl.

-service: Completo ie anal BBJ sin condom for 1 hour at a Hotel.

Recommended: Yes if you are willing to pay these prices, the girls are great.

I will recon another on the map tonight.

Take Care All

Daddy Rulz

12-27-08, 23:25

The "mongy" for best negotiated deal at Black goes to Jimsorts. Though why their chica drinks were 1/2 the price of any other reported here for 5 years eludes me.

Maybe they had a special that night.

Esten

12-31-08, 02:34

Jimsorts didn't close the deal, and I find his info hard to believe. Based on his account it was likely past 3am when the deal was struck, and the chicas may have been willing to go for a lower price at this late hour, but STILL... 300 pesos is seriously low for Black. And BOTH chicas agreed to it, and both offering bbbj and completo. You know the saying "if it sounds too good to be true...". One chica at Black offering this would be remarkable, let alone two. I'd say odds are good they were simply fishing for (their cut of) a second drink, and would have magically switched to "we meant 600 pesos each" when the time to leave came (or in the hotel).

The chica drink prices are the hardest part to believe.

Member #3319

01-05-09, 02:17

While this is another case of no deal closed, I do know that in April, there was a quote for 350p (yes, it was pesos) at roughly 1am. Only one drink was required for exit, although I do not remember the cost.

We had gone to Black simply to try to push the lowest cost we could, and this was it. Now, in full disclosure, there were many girls who were less than amused by the chuckles their initial offers received (I believe they all started at 600p) and many simply got up and walked away.

That night we pondered what would make the cost vary so much, and believe that either a. Age and looks affect the prices that are settled upon, or be. Our aggressive low balling had set us up to be ripped off later by switching to dollars or something else.

So for what it is worth, I am convinced that it is always possible to go lower than the current norm, and sometimes it isnt enough haggling them down to what everyone else is paying. I think this is even more true for those who live there or are on extended trips when the price jumps are enough to pay for two or three privado trips.

Lukasek

02-06-09, 05:00

About midnight I went to sleep, but I was not able to fall asleep, so I wake up and check my e mail. After about one hour I got hungry and. Yes horny as well.

I decided was finally time to see the so famous Black, so I wanted to be sure that money could not be a problem there, I totally empty the safe box from pesos and I count them, they were 1.500 and something, I was enough sure that even in the most expensive club in BsAs I could be able to get something it worth my coming till Argentina.

First of all I went to the lounge bar close to Silver Pub here in recoleta, For just 24 pesos I got chicken, vegetables and beer, 2 marlboro and I was ready to give some food to my little brother too.

I took a taxi and got inside Black and there were about 30 girls and 10-12 men, I took a beer and it was enough a little walk to see immediately that. Why is it so famous Black?

I saw a 9' the lap dancer, 2 girls were a 7' and then nothing above 5,5'!

So soon, very soon I realized that. The lap dancer even if an amazing perfect blond thin super body, was dancing in so cold and selfish way, I could forget even a bit of GFE with her. One of the 7' was busy with a man, the second 7' looked really tired and boring I was afraid that if I took her, I was gonna to pay just to see her to sleep.

I wanted to speak with one girl, but with a 5,5'?

I was so horny I could cry for no one real good pussy!

Somebody please tell me that I am wrong and that Black is not the best, or one of the best club that a capital federal of 12 millions or persons has to offer me!

Full wallet and. Handjob by myself? Hey. I really feel as home in BsAs LOL!

I was there drinking my beer and I was looking to the girls, besides the 90% of 5,5', they were not only no attractive at all, but also they look not funny, boring girls, some of them for one hour just sit down and NEVER move from the chair! SHAME!

If I was the owner of Black I will kick immediately their ass. Black has a owner?

Is he blind, yes?

Or too shy to tell the girls, try to smile and not to be a queen or what?

I am thinking about termas in Rio, for example 4x4 where if you go there at 16:00, you can still see at 23:00 something as 40 or 50 girls dancing so good, with so passion and really enjoying the dance itself that make you smile for happyness!

By the way as the working girls smile and are so friendly, brazil wins on argentina 100 to 0! I got some girls from termas in Rio that they were so nice and mainly so friendly as neither a 100kg woman can be!

Black and other clubs so well, seems to me, besides the lap dancers as normal discos or worst, cause in normal disco girls dance with more fun.

To write I am disappointed is little.

I think tomorrow I will go back there about 23:00 to be sure, that maybe the top notch girls were not all already gone, so tomorrow my second report from Black, so far. I got a really cheap night, ok, but I never thought I could be so horny and no pussy even if with no problem of money!

Lukasek

Dancesw/Chicas

02-06-09, 13:36

Luka,

Just reading your posts I can tell you not to even bother calling LucianaLove. She will be like a 4 in your book. The girls in POA will not be enough for you either.

I have to check Russia myself!

DWC

Tequila Tim

02-06-09, 20:46

PM me, I'll tell you where to find at least three, maybe six #8's each night at 1230am. Price 250-300 pesos, no bar fees.Yo Sid,

No need for PM's on this one, do tell.

El Perro

02-06-09, 21:53

Yo Sid,

No need for PM's on this one, do tell:)I second that emotion.

Esten

02-07-09, 01:44

So right now I suppose Lukasek is back at Black looking for 8's and 9's. Should be prime time there on a good night so I'll be surprised if he doesn't find something. Although he appears to have tremendously high standards! Which I can relate to. Looking forward to his next report.

Lukasek - as you know finding truly beautiful, hot women who give great service is not easy to find. Buenos Aires is not the best place to find this. What makes BA a popular destination for many of us is the combination of several things:

- Overall chica quality is good. Not great but good. There is some high quality as well but you need to look harder to find it.
- Tons of chica options.
- Prices still generally lower than many other places.
- Relatively inexpensive and safe city. And for some charming as well.

I can recommend some other places on the planet where the chica quality is noticeably better, but they won't be cheaper than in BA.

Lukasek

02-07-09, 12:00

PM me, I'll tell you where to find at least three, maybe six #8's each night at 1230am. Price 250-300 pesos, no bar fees.

I think here I miss something, cause after he suggested me to pm, he wrote me now this:

"''Search''---there are many posts on meeting places for regular chicas."

However thanks anyway.

Kolos

02-07-09, 12:49

because per house rules the chicas must work at least 5 nights per week. As for pricing, you will now have to pay $180 AR in chicas drinks plus the $70 AR mandatory monger's drink in order to get one of the chicas out the door (although the chicas do not have to return, so TLN a possibility) So you are looking at at least $250 AR in fees before the agreed upon chica compensation. A solid stategy to keep pricing from reaching the stratosphere is to open negotiations with the price you are willing to pay. The chica will always try to push for at least $200 USD (more if you let her throw her price out first) but with insisting you can get her down to $150 USD ($450 AR) Market conditions in Black are always in favor of the Mongers and believe me there are plenty of chicas who will go for even less than that, but NEVER for anything less than $100 USD or $300 AR. I was in here with Erkinator recently and he is no prince charming, and he was able to get the girl to go for $450 AR. Chicas do not have to work 5 days / week. They have some "workarounds", some work only 1 day / week and they are in Black for years. Cheapest way is to buy 1 drink and 1 for monger.

Yes I agree AR$400 is very good price for "Black princess", usually argentinian football/soccer players a sking chicas to go for less than US$100 (thinking they are famous enough for rebate, butit doesnt mean they get them) but I consider this price out of reach for me.

Plenty of chicas in Black - this has changed dramatically, as I said in another post most best chicas migrated to another club.

Lukasek

02-07-09, 12:52

I PM'd you the name and address!--------''La Madeleine, 9 de Julio+Cordoba. Most are Dominicans+1 oriental mix+ peru+ AR'' ---------------If you want regular chicas use the ''search '' function. Do you expect me to do it for you? What gratitude!Man I did not get the first part of the pm, only what I posted, I neither expect your pm, so honestly I thank you.

Lukasek

02-07-09, 12:56

Keep on reporting, yesterday after Catoo's and Ness I went to Black, many girls and I stayed there about one hour, the same girl of the day before but without the lap dancer and of the 7' I saw, so I left for Madahos where I stayed till 4:00 am. I keep on post there.

Lukasek

02-07-09, 18:14

Although he appears to have tremendously high standards!

Lukasek - as you know finding truly beautiful, hot women who give great service is not easy to find.

Buenos Aires is not the best place to find this. What makes BA a popular destination for many of us is the combination of several things:

- Overall chica quality is good. Not great but good. There is some high quality as well but you need to look harder to find it.

- Tons of chica options.

- Prices still generally lower than many other places.

- Relatively inexpensive and safe city. And for some charming as well.

I can recommend some other places on the planet where the chica quality is noticeably better, but they won't be cheaper than in BA.Hi friend, obviously I agree and I accept your point of view, but from my side, I think I have totally normal standards and that here many men have very low standards about girls.

So why it was enough easy for me till now? I think it is only the problem where you go to search, search in the right places and you will be really surprised how many nice girls can give great service.

-For me after a week I can say overall quality is surely not good and when I am in holiday I like to go a place, as private flat in russia, where between 10-12 girls more half are really nice and not as here to have to work hard to find a nice one.

- man tons of girls options you have in every city of 12 millions of inhabitants, but I got many many options in Ufa and in Samara and they are village in comparison to BsAs.

-if you think here prices are so that cheap, lets take 200 pesos as example? (even if maybe the average price is 300 pesos.

200 pesos if I am right it is about 44 euro, right?

From here http://www.photomodeli.ru/

I got in Piter so far as November 2008 so many girls and for the average price of 54 euro!

Friend, do not tell me that this 10 euro per chica is gonna to make all that big difference.

My last day in Samara I got a driver that pick to my flat, with 2 cars, 8 girls and I was mad, cause 5 of them were gorgeous for the price of 50 euro 60 minutes. Do you understand me?

- inexpensive city, yes, but I prefer to stay some days less but to get first quality pussies instead to stay long time and get tired to find one good girl.

Safe? Never felt unsafe in 45 days alone in Russia.

- if I have no money I stay at home, maybe it is only the problem that I live in Europe and before to come to Argentina I did not understand so well as now, that I live in a real heaven about quality and services of girls, now I know and believe me, I am very happy.

Jackjack1

02-07-09, 19:51

Hi friend, obviously I agree and I accept your point of view, but from my side, I think I have totally normal standards and that here many men have very low standards about girls.

So why it was enough easy for me till now? I think it is only the problem where you go to search, search in the right places and you will be really surprised how many nice girls can give great service.

-For me after a week I can say overall quality is surely not good and when I am in holiday I like to go a place, as private flat in russia, where between 10-12 girls more half are really nice and not as here to have to work hard to find a nice one.

- man tons of girls options you have in every city of 12 millions of inhabitants, but I got many many options in Ufa and in Samara and they are village in comparison to BsAs.

-if you think here prices are so that cheap, lets take 200 pesos as example? (even if maybe the average price is 300 pesos.

200 pesos if I am right it is about 44 euro, right?

From here http://www.photomodeli.ru/

I got in Piter so far as November 2008 so many girls and for the average price of 54 euro!

Friend, do not tell me that this 10 euro per chica is gonna to make all that big difference.

My last day in Samara I got a driver that pick to my flat, with 2 cars, 8 girls and I was mad, cause 5 of them were gorgeous for the price of 50 euro 60 minutes. Do you understand me?

- inexpensive city, yes, but I prefer to stay some days less but to get first quality pussies instead to stay long time and get tired to find one good girl.

Safe? Never felt unsafe in 45 days alone in Russia.

- if I have no money I stay at home, maybe it is only the problem that I live in Europe and before to come to Argentina I did not understand so well as now, that I live in a real heaven about quality and services of girls, now I know and believe me, I am very happy.My Friend, it seems that whatever you do in Argentina you are disappointed. I still plan on going there, I'm confident that I will find a passionate and gorgeous girl to have fun with.

I hope that you find what you're looking for out there somewhere,

Jack

Lukasek

02-07-09, 19:55

My Friend, it seems that whatever you do in Argentina you are disappointed.Hi friend, but do you think it is me or it is Argentina? And it is NOT a million dollar question.

Jackjack1

02-07-09, 20:00

Hi friend, but do you think it is me or it is Argentina? And it is NOT a million dollar question.Honestly Luka, I think it's you, you are just used to a different kind of girl.

Jack

Kolos

02-07-09, 20:03

I'd say odds are good they were simply fishing for (their cut of) a second drink, and would have magically switched to "we meant 600 pesos each" when the time to leave came (or in the hotel)

The chica drink prices are the hardest part to believe.I agree it becomes extremely expensive. But - theres no such thing in Black as "their cut" in drinks

Lukasek

02-07-09, 20:15

Honestly Luka, I think it's you, you are just used to a different kind of girl.

JackDifferent or better kind of girl Jack?

I know it seems it is me, but my question is how many here that like the girls in private, new port, cafe orleans, chekers, catoo's, hook, ness, madahos and black went before to Russia, Ukraina, Czech or Slovak Republic as I did from 1998?

You think it is me, it is ok you have different opinion, we are here to share our opinion, but at least I can compare girls from many different states and I saw that a girl 6' can be for some a 5' or a 7', but a girl 9' will be a 9' for many men.

P. S. And I was so well in Hungary, Latvia, Croatia, Slovenia, Spain, Greek, France, Austria and German too. So I am not "so" virgin anymore.

Jackjack1

02-07-09, 21:22

Different or better kind of girl Jack?

I know it seems it is me, but my question is how many here that like the girls in private, new port, cafe orleans, chekers, catoo's, hook, ness, madahos and black went before to Russia, Ukraina, Czech or Slovak Republic as I did from 1998?

You think it is me, it is ok you have different opinion, we are here to share our opinion, but at least I can compare girls from many different states and I saw that a girl 6' can be for some a 5' or a 7', but a girl 9' will be a 9' for many men.

P. S. And I was so well in Hungary, Latvia, Croatia, Slovenia, Spain, Greek, France, Austria and German too. So I am not "so" virgin anymore.Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, you may prefer Slavic girls?

Jack

Esten

02-08-09, 03:04

Lukasek, good discussion. I can agree your standards are normal, because it is true all men would prefer to have 8's and 9's compared to less attractive women. Perhaps a better way to explain it is that men become used to the quality of chica they normally do business with. If a man rarely sees 8's and 9's he will not miss them and will be content with 7's. Or he may want better looking women but he decides it is too expensive or too much work to find them, so again he becomes content with a lesser quality. So I can understand if you are used to enjoying 8s and 9s in Europe and Russia, you will have some disappointment in Buenos Aires. However I still suspect that what you consider an 8-9, many of us will consider a 9-10.

The place in Russia you mentioned at 54 Euros per hour, with attractive women, I can believe. But I think that type of situation is not very common. And I think even less common to find that in an upscale night club where you can drink and talk with the chicas and spend time and make your choice (like Madahos or Black)

Tell me Lukasek - what city do you recommend to find a night club like Madahos or Black, full of beautiful women (8s and 9s) and with good prices. I would be very interested about such places. Because I know of some places like this in other countries, but they are expensive.

Lueck Hoff

02-08-09, 07:57

Lukasek, I totally agree that you have normal standards, but if you are looking only for the 9's and the 10's you better stay in europe than travel so far. In Germany for example you would easily find at least a few 9's in every huge FKK, and you can fuck each of these girls for 50 euros!

Nevertheless, altough I am a Aerman I do like BA very much and will be there in March / April for almost 5 weeks. But I do not come down there only for the women, that in fact wouldn't make much sense.

Can't wait to let the terrible winter time behind me!

Lueck Hoff

Gato Hunter

02-25-09, 11:32

I went to Blacks last night to see if there was anything good.

I was severely let down. Besides the dancers there was only two girls I would have taken out. Lots of 5's and 6's. About 3 girls were 8+. Better quality is at the triangle.

I talked to one that was a big natural breasted spinner. She wanted 200USD, and would not even take pesos of a similar amount.

I would avoid this place, and I defiantly would not take someone there on business to get laid. There were a very really coyote ugly chicas in there.

Oh and something else funny. That one really ugly old chica that used to hang out at exedra and orleans that no body ever banged. Well she was streetwalking in Recoleta a block from blacks. Must be a dying last gasp for her.

Kolos

03-03-09, 22:22

Yes I agree totally. I would avoid this place. Quality hit the bottom - level zero, there are much less girls than usual and its not day of week-thing. This place died for now and must come back with some new great chicas.

They are imposing new rules on girls - she MUST come back after around 1hr (1 drink with customer) or around 2h (2 drinks) (good bye old times) and they don't have to go with anyone else same night - but - They have to stay in place to make it look --- Full of chicas!:D

Pretty clever idea unfortunately level is very low and they don't work good even as a background to meet any better one.

For now - again disappointed - avoid

Gato Hunter

03-07-09, 14:46

I went in on Thursday night at about 4 am after being cockblocked on a Madahos dancer. I was hoping that the quality would have improved on the best mongering night of the week.

It did not. You could have put all the girls in there in any 100p or less privado in town and they would have looked at home.

Don't even waste your time walking here for a look. Take the 80p you would save and hit a privado.

If you feel that you must look you can save the entry fee by just walking past the door guy like you own the place. Its what I did for the free look.

On a side note, when I went in there I saw a girl that I had banged a few days earlier that I paid 170p, and she was happy. She was a friend of a friend. She told me she worked at Black, I did not believe her. She just was not that good looking. Turns out she does work there and gets 200USD from morons.

Quick78

03-18-09, 21:57

Gato, how much is the entrance fee if the "walk in like you own the place" tactic fails. Plus how much is it going to cost me to drink there. Not looking to drop 600 pesos for a so-so girl, shit I'm not looking to drop 600 on anything, but I think I got to check out. From the way its described, it sounds like a historic site.

Kolos

03-19-09, 02:06

From the way its described, it sounds like a historic site.Not historic, just undergoing some changes / (temporary) problems.

60-80 pesos will do (drink included), sometimes free (if they know you buy drink anyway)

Alvear123

03-27-09, 19:52

Stan Da Man

03-29-09, 21:31

Gentlemen,

I have been to Black's no less than 15 times in the last 5 years. I have never (ok once but she was a hot raving lunatic who was way out of control) had a bad experience and certainly some that still dance in my memory. I cannot believe that the place has been reported recently by my fellow mongering brotherhood as having gone to the bottom of the hill.

Please say it isnt so since I am returning to BA after a two year absence this coming April.

There was a guy named Daniel that used to run the place (or maybe he was a night manager only) and seemed to have the place well organized.

Gato:

Can you still tip out management to insure that girl stays for evening and does not have to return to the shark pool?

From a boliche standpoint, has Madahos completely eclipsed Blacks as the place to go for the best chicas assembled in one place?

Saddened,

ScottScott:

Most of the price police, er. Value mongers on this board won't set foot in Black. They claim that mongers get "financially abused" in such places, and no savvy monger worth his salt would willingly patronize such establishments. This may be one of the reasons your post hasn't garnered much response.

I'm probably one of the few remaining half-wits here who truly enjoys places like Black and Madaho's. Don't tell anyone, but I don't mind paying a bit more. Plus, I find this whole notion that service varies inversely with price is a bunch of rubbish. [Shhhhhhhh!] That's just me, though. Call me crazy.

That said, I've been in BA on three separate trips since last September and at least half a dozen times over the past two years. I've been to Black at least six separate nights over the past three trips. This is all a matter of opinion, of course, but I would say that Black definitely has declined and is a clear #2 to Madaho's at this point. Candidly, my opinion for the past two years has been that Black is second best, but until recently I would say that the point is arguable. I don't think the point is debatable any longer.

Rumor has it that about 1/3 of the Black inventory up and left in a huff. There was a dispute with Black management where management did not support a chica, or so the story goes. I can't confirm that, but it's internet lore at this point. I can confirm that, as of last January, there were clearly some chicas in Black who didn't belong there. The number of chicas also was down. This could have been because I was there during a normally slow period (third week in January) but my personal opinion is that the place has been on a steady decline for six months. If you haven't been there in two years, you may like what they've done to the stripper / dancer pole. It is now its own free-standing island. This greatly improves the flow of the place. Ironically, though, they've now got fewer chicas and patrons, so flow is less of an issue there.

Madaho's, too, has suffered a bit, and this is confirmed by the staff (non-chicas) working there. Recently, another member posted that chicas were being allowed to go home at 3:30 a. M. Rather than the customary 4:30 - 5:00 a. M. This past January, there clearly were fewer chicas in Madaho's, but I would guesstimate that this still translates into at least twice the population at Black. And, in my opinion, the Madaho's gals are a cut above. There are still stunners at both places -- there are just more at Madaho's right now and (my opinion again) the average Madaho's gal is better looking than the average Black gal.

Some of the up-and-coming Recoleta clubs, like La Lopez, are just graveyards now. There's no point in even bothering if you're looking for a high-end place with lots of variety, although there undoubtedly are a few gems still lurking in places like this.

Finally, the same internet rumor about the chicas leaving Black had this somewhat happy ending: That 1/3 of the Black population high-tailed it over to Hippopotamus. I have no experience with this boliche, and there are various negative reports on this board about efforts to regentrify the place. It seems they charge a lot for drinks, just like Black and Madaho's. Still, it may be worth checking out. I plan on doing so when I'm back there in April.

Good luck, and welcome back.

Alvear123

03-30-09, 18:05

Stan,

Your response is very much appreciated. I will be in BA on business probably around the week of the 20th of April so if you are in town parallel to that time, it would be fun to do an unbiased 60 minutes style TV expose as to who and what is happening in this town. If you are around, drop me a note and we can at least coordinate a night of steak, wine and of course chica harpooning.

I respectfully bow to the sage veterans on this board who have shared their tireless efforts with all of us connisseurs in Argentina, one the last great bastions of mongering. Jackson should at least win the congressional medal of honor, a Kennedy Center honor or the very least, a trip sponsored by all of us to new, fertile hunting grounds. China? Prague? Moscow?

I understand your point about some of the trashing of various places owing to the escalating prices at Black's and Madahos. And there will always be an inevitable debate between the Privado Boys and the Boliche Boys. For what it is worth, I truly enjoy walking into the boliches after a great supper, tummy filled with great Argentine beef and sated with wine. I can then relax with buddies, "ooh and aah" over the evening's cattle call, and spear my little fish in the gentle rolling stream of chicas.

I fully intend on retracing my hallowed steps at Black's, revisiting Madahos to see how and why they wear the current crown, and test out the new waters of the emerging set of boliches. Of course, using Jackson's great enter at your own peril list of places to enjoy or avoid.

Scott

Exon123

03-30-09, 20:15

Jackjack1

03-30-09, 23:07

Exon123

03-31-09, 02:38

Bottom line is that there are different strokes for different blokes.

JackYou go for it Jack.

Exon

Jackjack1

03-31-09, 14:26

You go for it Jack.

ExonThanks Exon, I will. I respect both your opinion and Stan's. I think that if I went to Black's and Madahos I would get the full Buenos Aires experience. Whether or not I would fork out what these chicas are asking for depends on the situation.

Cheers,

Jack

Stan Da Man

03-31-09, 17:58

As I keep saying, "It Doesn't Take Any Brains To Spend Money"

To find true value you've got to get out into the field and work hard to discover it. Yes your going to "Waste" some orgams but in the long run you'll have devoloped your own "Stable" of good reliable Chica's that provide what your looking for.

Going to Black or Madaho's and just spending money is not the answer.

ExonWhat thoughtful and sage advice! Thanks!

Not only are you able to separate the valuable and worthwhile experiences from the expensive and unworthy places, you are also able to spend my money for me.

Imagine that? I've been going to Madaho's and Black for several years now. Indeed, I somehow fooled myself into believing I was having a good time when I was there. Thanks for pointing out that these places are not the answer, and that I'll have to waste some "orgams" trying to "devolop" a stable. Now I see the light: The Value Monger way is the only way to true happiness and contentment.

By the way, I see your point that it may not take brains to spend money. Does the same rule apply to spelling?

Jackjack1

03-31-09, 18:08

What thoughtful and sage advice! Thanks!

Not only are you able to separate the valuable and worthwhile experiences from the expensive and unworthy places, you are also able to spend my money for me.

Imagine that? I've been going to Madaho's and Black for several years now. Indeed, I somehow fooled myself into believing I was having a good time when I was there. Thanks for pointing out that these places are not the answer, and that I'll have to waste some "orgams" trying to "devolop" a stable. Now I see the light: The Value Monger way is the only way to true happiness and contentment.

By the way, I see your point that it may not take brains to spend money. Does the same rule apply to spelling?Gentlemen,

Both of you present a point of view. Let's not take this to a different level. In a way, we are brothers in arms. Keep up the good work in reporting. This site is an invaluable resource because of your reflections and recommendations.

Cheers,

Jack

Rock Harders

03-31-09, 18:20

QuakHunter

03-31-09, 21:50

Well done RH on your post. The best part I like about Black is when I go there I feel young, thin and attractive for a few hours. Then reality sets in. I also don't have as much money for some reason.

The positive thing is the spank bank is full once again. Kind of like the gift that keeps on giving.

Mongers,

I go to Black and Madahos several times per year, generally when friends from out of town are visiting but sometimes with people living in Buenos Aires. Neither place is a clip joint nor a rip-off. They have a set of transparent business practices that they abide by. They never try to make the customer pay for unwanted drinks or any of that nonsense. Yes, they are much more expensive than other places, and the drink prices are beyond ridiculous. However, I have yet to bring an out of town visitor who was not extremely impressed with either of these places. The bottom line is that these places usually have a strong selection of doable chicas, as long as you like late 20's and older girls with breast implants. Those looking for 18-25 year old spinners or more naturally looking girls would do better in other establishments. For the short time visitor, Black (or Madahos) can be fun places where you can fuck a hot girl for a non-ridiculous sum of money by international standards. For those living full time in Buenos Aires, or for frequent visitors, there are much better choices available in terms of both value and performance.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

Miami Bob

03-31-09, 23:54

Spend us$300 on a night of fun with a high end club girl [that would get us$1000 in any major city in the USA] or $40 at The Triangle.

When you meet someone who floats your boat--whatever the source--develope a friendship or a working professional relationship. You consistantly get better service from the girls who are comfotable with you; know you and like being with you. Their work can be dangerous and a known client is almost always preferable to a stranger.

I have an Exxon style relationship with girls that I intially met a Blacks, las lopez and a couple from word of mouth. I if I lined them up in front of you dressed and made-up in the way then stop by my apartment to tickle my fancy, you could never guess who came from where. The las lopez and blacks girls both tell me the same thing: don't come to the club to meet me. They both did not start to really deliver great service until the tarnish rubbed off. they think that the customers who go to those clubs are idiots to be ripped-off.

Maybe I tend to attract and like women who think that way and I am not getting a true view of what the upper end boliche girls think about the patrons; but the message I've received is pretty clear. I do enjoy occassionally going to Blacks--Daniel is a good guy and I am paying for the atmosphere. I'll blow us$100 to enjoy a few hours at Madahos--the same way I might do the same thing at a gentlemen's club in the states. It's rare that I'll actually take a girl out. I've been to Madahoes with Exxon within the last year.

The real gems are developed over time--this is Exxon's message. If you spend time with a hot girl from Blacks--send her an email; bring her a small gift from the usa; call her to say hello when you are in the states; invite her to a pre-work dinner. The service will improve and she will be embarrased to ask for us$200, becuase she knows you and likes you or at least values you as a good client. She'll introduce you to her friends who work and tell them that you are a good guy. You will have fewer poor or below average experiences.

SPEND your money how ever you please. This boy learned something from Exxon and Dick Head that is worth learning weather you prefer 100 pesos gals or the glamorous babes at the Recoletta clubs.

Stan from your past posts and Exxon's. You both visit some of the same places. Exxon is loaded half the time he is posting and inadvertently is not as diplomatic as he could be, but I learned something valuable from him.

Stan Da Man

04-01-09, 00:01

Mongers,

I go to Black and Madahos several times per year, generally when friends from out of town are visiting but sometimes with people living in Buenos Aires. Neither place is a clip joint nor a rip-off. They have a set of transparent business practices that they abide by. They never try to make the customer pay for unwanted drinks or any of that nonsense. Yes, they are much more expensive than other places, and the drink prices are beyond ridiculous. However, I have yet to bring an out of town visitor who was not extremely impressed with either of these places. The bottom line is that these places usually have a strong selection of doable chicas, as long as you like late 20's and older girls with breast implants. Those looking for 18-25 year old spinners or more naturally looking girls would do better in other establishments. For the short time visitor, Black (or Madahos) can be fun places where you can fuck a hot girl for a non-ridiculous sum of money by international standards. For those living full time in Buenos Aires, or for frequent visitors, there are much better choices available in terms of both value and performance.

Suerte,

Rock HardersI largely agree. I don't pretend to tell anyone what to do with their mongering dollars, or which experience is better than another, or who is the smarter monger, or how best to approach these issues, or what the correct price is for this or that.

This site is all about sharing information, and it's a great forum for that. I do object, however, when someone consistently claims that they have some superior strategy, which boils down to price, and thinks they can impose that world view on others. Price just isn't the central issue for me, at least not right now.

If there are folks here who think that they can consistently find pearls where others find swine, that they can find that diamond in the rough -- then great for them. I'm not going to pretend to tell them that they're missing out on the high life, nor do I believe they are.

I just object when someone tells me how I should go about having a good time and how much I should spend doing it. If that's what I wanted, I'd get married.

Other than that, I agree with everything Exon said.