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You can negotiate the entrance fee with the hombres who are working the streets to get you to enter Madahos. Ask for 2 drinks instead of 1 or a price of $100 pesos. Works for me most of the time.
3 extranjeros at midnight going after the hottest girls in the club don't stand a chance. There are at least 4 more hours of potential customers and the hottest girls will find a customer. Come in later or adjust your sites away from the hottest of the hottest. My opinion only: The hottest are never very good in bed anyway!
Sysco
Astorw, you seem like a nice guy, but you need to rethink this. It's a WG's job-especially a high end WG charging what she is charging you-to ACT like she is turned on by you, even if she finds you repulsive. The WGs who get my repeat business are those who act as if there is nothing else in the world they would rather be doing than be with me. So don't apologize-she is the one who owes you an apology (but don't hold your breath).The latest post is relevant, I always go for the hottest girls in the club, so perhaps my expectations have to be adjusted given this, or should aim lower and get better service. Still, love a challenge.
I went to Madahos on my last night at Buenos Aires and I must say that I won't regret nor forget it ever.
It was a wonderful experience, yes it wasn't cheap, but it worth it.
I had to pay the ARS100 entrance fee, I had my drink (no alcohol when working. And made a litle scout. Glimpsed a girl but was busy with some old guy and from nowhere a stunning lady was a few steps of me. My eyes blinked just to get a clear view and this smile came directly to me. We had a brief chat and went for a drink.
We had a great chat, lot of kisses, hugs, touchs, and anything you need to make the deal. She asked for ARS800 I was already sold (since the smile) and as she fulfilled my standards we went to a nerby hotel.
I had to pay ARS200 for the exit fee which was the drink she taked when we were chatting. As she explained later to me, that same amount would be enough for 2 hours outside the place, as it was 0 hours, she had to get back at 2am, one hour late, that same ARS200 would have mean 'till the dawn. (obviously that was up the girl)
Anyway, we went to this place, it was ARS170 for 2 hours, the room wasn't bad at all. We had some cleaning and had our time.
It was pretty nice. I liked her a lot, and I would be with here until the morning only if I were alone on my trip, but I wasn't so I only had that unforgetable time with her.
Her name is "Mar" wich means Sea.
If you see her, please sent a "hola" and I wish to see you soon.
Blonde, green eyes, oval face, around 5. 6", pretty smart, and really beautiful.
Suave Monger
03-27-11, 13:59
You guys are talking about 300 United States Dollars for ONE HOUR of the ladies time. I am used to SE Asia where I get all night until 9 AM (at least) for 40 USD outcall (AC, Phils). I am trying to justify making a trip to South America (Argentina or Columbia) , but if I'm reading these prices correctly, it is complete ripoff. However, if I were inclined to stay within the Western hemisphere, which one do you guys recommend: BA, Columbia, or DR?
I know a madahoes girl who sees me for 500pesos+50taxi=$550 for 2 hours. I also make a number of trips per year.
Once the girl has you for us$300 for less than one hour, you will have to be firm to get her to set a new price. You should be able to stick to 600 pesos+50 taxi for before work. That is a good deal for her with a known easy client.
She will want US$200 or more. If you are here for a short trip and never to return, it might make sense-hot girl w / o all the added club expenses. You want her to aggree to 2 hours and at least two sessions for the money. She may say no and text you the next day after she makes zero at the club the next night after turning down 600 pesos + taxi she will kick herself, but still try to keep you at the high level from the first meeting. Stick to 600 pesos and you may het paydirt. You make the decision wwhat the experience is worth to you-that's your business.
I personally would never pay that type of money with the other choices available. Try a high end privado like clielo.
Tyr estrella the BBBJ quen for 200 pesos-have a first class one hour blowjob from one of the best in town who is young gorgeous and consistantly top rated
You guys are talking about 300 United States Dollars for ONE HOUR of the ladies time. I am used to SE Asia where I get all night until 9 AM (at least) for 40 USD outcall (AC, Phils). I am trying to justify making a trip to South America (Argentina or Columbia) , but if I'm reading these prices correctly, it is complete ripoff. However, if I were inclined to stay within the Western hemisphere, which one do you guys recommend: BA, Columbia, or DR?Yes, Madahos is a ripoff, but the prices are NOT typical of BA. When you consider that BA is a sophisticated, cosmopolitan city with a lot to do besides mongering, it is an incredibly inexpensive mongering destination, bearing in mind that terms like "cheap" and "expensive" are relative. When I say that it is inexpensive, I mean by comparison to the US or Western Europe. There are many cheaper places in Latin America, but they tend to be less interesting than BA.
Of the 3 places you mentioned, I have never been to DR so I can't comment, but I would take BA over Colombia any day, if only for reasons of climate.
Always be care with the local ladies of the evening to negociate in pesos and make sure they know you mean pesos.
If you don't speak spanish write on a napkin 300 peos so you don't later have a discussion regarding 300 dollars vs 300 USA dollars.
Yes, if you want the gringo prices about the top clubs, you may hear 300 dollars+ all the houses' fees.
Rock Harders
03-28-11, 01:47
Mongers-
Just to put things in perspective a bit, I was in Madrid back in November and went to a famous hooker bar called Flowers Park. There was no cover to get in, and beers were maybe 8 euros and mixed drinks maybe 12 or 15 Euros. The girls cost 70 EUROS for 40 minutes with the room at the adjacent hotel included (plus 5 euros for towels). The talent on hand was a selection of smoking hot Brasilians, Colombians, and Eastern Europeans. So basically you could fuck and have two beers for about 100 Euros all included.
Then we have Madahos, which is in Latin America, which charges minimum $90 USD just to walk in the place and take a girl out, BEFORE you even pay the girl. The girls ask for $200 or $300 USD and will probably not go for less than $150 USD. So we have anywhere from a minimum of $240 USD (plus the fuck hotel if that is your destination) for a fuck and a beer, compared to $140 USD (depending upon exchange rate) in Madrid for the same service from arguably hotter and better performing girls.
Any working girl in Buenos Aires will come to your hotel / house / apartment and fuck your brains out for a maximum of $100 USD and be happy to do so. I pay my regulars anywhere from 300 AR to $100 USD for bareback everything cum anywhere service.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
The prices in Madahos are crazy. What is worse is that there are crazys willing to pay the prices. There are nice clubs within a hour of centro where there are lots of women and only a 10p entrance fee and the girls with room go for 150p a hour. Beers 20p. But its your money, spend it how you wish.
Wild Walleye
03-28-11, 15:43
Any working girl in Buenos Aires will come to your hotel / house / apartment and fuck your brains out for a maximum of $100 USD and be happy to do so. I pay my regulars anywhere from 300 AR to $100 USD for bareback everything cum anywhere service.
Suerte,
Rock HardersRock's situation is a result of experience, knowing all the facts in advance and a willingness to put in the time and effort. On paper, at least, he is the exact opposite of the ideal 'target' for the chicas in Mad-ass-hoes, he knows what he wants, is confident that he can get it 24/7 and knows what the commodity pricing is and / or should be.
Excepting repeat business, these chicas are looking for less focused mongers, passing through town who can be persuaded by their little heads to jump through hoops in the name of instant gratification (or at least the illusion of instant gratification). They know that you are already in for US$90-100 before the little guy even gets to twitch and therefore, most are committed to taking something out. They really know that they have you when they see that shit-eating grin that says "I can't believe I am going to get to nail a chica this hot." They come at it from the perspective of "see my shiny, golden pussy? Don't you want it? It'll be better than you ever imagined, now just open up that wallet a little, a little more, a little more. Oh yeah, that's the spot!" At this point (post-negotiation, pre-paid, pre-sexo) many of them are spent. They've shot their wads getting to their climax and yours is just a necessary evil. Like taking out the trash after dinner.
It is incumbent upon the monger that wants a great experience to either do some advance work or be very lucky.
I have been to Madahos a few time, taken some girls from there, also a dancer, but had not been there for a few months. I got my little black book of numbers and have a few girls that can come to my place for action but needed a change.
Entrance fee is now 150 pesos, know you can probably get that down and so on, me I don't give a shit. This gives you one drink and the bartender make it as strong as you like.
Drinks are 200 pesos after that, again as strong as you like.
I came about 23:30 and if was few guys and the girls just started to work.
It was at least 30 girls there. I had forgotten how hot some of them are, shit I defy anyone to not see a strong 9, whatever your taste.
Strippers and dancers give you a good performance on the floor and the place is a place witch does not feel sleazy but classy. I like the place.
The girls are as mentioned hot. I always find someone I get a good connection with, not necessary the hottest of them all.
Yesterday a blond. 7 I would say, was really getting into me, she came back sat down and was genuine cool. My wingman picket up one girl witch probably has the best body I have seen in my life, shit she was hot! But I settled for the blond.
Have to pay a girl drink. 250 pesos, and then the price for the girl, gringo that is normally 800 pesos.
So by the time I am in my taxi that is 150+250+800pesos.
Can I find many girls for less? Sure, I could get a 23-year beauty I know to stay a week with me for that, all nights.
Was it worth it?
Hell yeah!
I gave her my boyfriend routine; we had some booze, danced to music and fucked.
She stayed a few hours, was a sex maniac and gave the whole alphabet of dirty deeds, all of them.
I got here telephone number, are going to see her more, might take her out on Sunday, her day off, go to a disco and screw all night and day, for nothing.
As Jackson once told me the price you pay at a place like that is to get to know some seriously beautiful girls, get numbers and become a regular / semi boyfriend.
It is called investment.
As Jackson once told me, the price you pay at a place like that is to get to know some seriously beautiful girls, get numbers and become a regular / semi boyfriend.
It is called investment. Amen.
Ken Apples
I went back on Saturday. As all BA lovers know the BIG day is Thursday, especially the last of the month (lots of girls need next months rent).
Most girls that work clubs have 4 or 5 days they have to work, and weekends are slower than weekdays since less girls work then.
Anyway, I came in about 30 minutes after they opened, my strategy is to come early, find the one I like and be her first (in the club) client that day.
The quality of girls was slightly less than Thursday, but my take on any club is that all I am looking for is one girl, so how many I don't want to do does not really concern me.
A girl I would say is a strong 9 couth my attention and I got her over and bought her a drink. Talked and had a couple of drinks myself.
As I was leaving the girls from Thursday asked if we still was on for Sunday disco, I said yes, but might not take her out since I have other plans.
This girl does not normally do apartments, only hotel, but since I know a few people that can guarantee that I'm a good guy she came to the house.
She was a goddess! I sooooooooo wanted photos but she refused. Like I said she was 9. Service was as good as I had in BA. After doing so many girls at Newport I have become accustomed to girls that are good looking but not centrefold beauty but this one was that, centrefold beauty.
I agreed to one hour but she would have stayed longer, if I paid the extra 'fine' she have to give for coming back late, one drink. 250 pesos. My plan was to go to Newport later so I only wanted one hour.
That was one hour in heaven! It is going to stay with me for a long time in my mind.
She was so tight and toned, amazing boody, all normal sex stuff and finished with BBBJ and CIM / face.
I got her number, real name and schedule, and agreement that she would come on her day of next time I'm in BA, no time limit and so on.
For girls this hot I can think of no better club in BA, I will start to go here more often.
I personally would never pay that type of money with the other choices available. Try a high end privado like clielo.
Tyr estrella the BBBJ quen for 200 pesos-have a first class one hour blowjob from one of the best in town who is young gorgeous and consistantly top ratedA little off-topic. I've been to Cielo. Any other pivados in the same price / quality category?
WorldTravel69
05-13-11, 13:06
Check the List.
Look for the smiling faces.
Check the new ones and let us know. The last ones I posted.
A little off-topic. I've been to Cielo. Any other pivados in the same price / quality category?
WorldTravel69,
Could you put the smiley faces on the actual North and South lists? It would save members a lot of time.
WorldTravel69
05-13-11, 13:20
They are on the lists. Just not many and the quality is not good. Jackson's software messes with them.
WorldTravel69,
Could you put the smiley faces on the actual North and South lists? It would save members a lot of time.
Wild Walleye
05-13-11, 13:23
That it was up to the chicas to put the smiley faces on the mongers.
A little off-topic. I've been to Cielo. Any other pivados in the same price / quality category?Libertad 374 and Esmerelda 517. Though neither is as nice as Cielo in terms of facilities, both had large lineups with a high proportion of beauties. Esmerelda 517 is extensively covered in this forum but after reading the few reviews regarding Libertad 374, I wonder if there hasn't been a change of ownership.
As far as the response I got to my original question, it wasn't very helpful because the lists are so long. And since WT has recently updated many of the threads there is no way to tell which ones have had recent activity. I ended up at both privados chasing down girls I had seen on Gemidos.
I have also posted a report on the Libertad 374 thread.
WorldTravel69
05-29-11, 20:05
Thanks for posting your Libertad 374 report in the right thread.
If you look to the right on this thread you will see the dates of the most recent postings. I know it takes time to check them, because I checked most of them, but it is the only way.
http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?759-Private-Apartments
Libertad 374 and Esmerelda 517. Though neither is as nice as Cielo in terms of facilities, both had large lineups with a high proportion of beauties. Esmerelda 517 is extensively covered in this forum but after reading the few reviews regarding Libertad 374, I wonder if there hasn't been a change of ownership.
As far as the response I got to my original question, it wasn't very helpful because the lists are so long. And since WT has recently updated many of the threads there is no way to tell which ones have had recent activity. I ended up at both privados chasing down girls I had seen on Gemidos.
I have also posted a report on the Libertad 374 thread.
DownUnderView
06-11-11, 07:33
The prices in Madahos are crazy. What is worse is that there are crazys willing to pay the prices. There are nice clubs within a hour of centro where there are lots of women and only a 10p entrance fee and the girls with room go for 150p a hour. Beers 20p. But its your money, spend it how you wish.Are you able expand on this?
Are you able expand on this?I have before as have a few others but it seems no one is interested. A big downside with these places is there is no english spoken. Maybe TL can start a provincia tour night!
Hey, I would jump on a tour of the boliches in the provencia of Buenos Aires. This would be great if TL could arrange something like this type of excursion. I have always found that you pay so much less money and find wonderful chicas when you get out of the center of any capital city such as BA.
Hey, I would jump on a tour of the boliches in the provencia of Buenos Aires. This would be great if TL could arrange something like this type of excursion. I have always found that you pay so much less money and find wonderful chicas when you get out of the center of any capital city such as BA.Not my experience Joe. My experience is as soon as you leave the close inner city, say after Callao, no 'hasta el final', everything is covered and the chicas with few exceptions are great fat hefferlumps. And very amateurish and frightened in the main or the other extreme; old, fat and a few too many cama miles on the clock. Provincial cities such as Rosario, Cordoba, Santa Fe, Mendoza, Salta and Jujuy ditto. A few times I've found a gem but most of the time, the local Argentinian girls outside of the micro centre are pretty poor and when one turns out OK, she is usually a Paraguaya who got lost.
Argento
Not my experience Joe. My experience is as soon as you leave the close inner city, say after Callao, no 'hasta el final', everything is covered and the chicas with few exceptions are great fat hefferlumps. And very amateurish and frightened in the main or the other extreme; old, fat and a few too many cama miles on the clock. Provincial cities such as Rosario, Cordoba, Santa Fe, Mendoza, Salta and Jujuy ditto. A few times I've found a gem but most of the time, the local Argentinian girls outside of the micro centre are pretty poor and when one turns out OK, she is usually a Paraguaya who got lost.
ArgentoThat's odd. Thursday night after dinner I stopped by Imagina in San Miguel. Around 50 girls, maybe more. Around 35 guys. Most girls between 20 and 30 years old. A few between 30 and 40. I did not see any older then that (although its possible there were some I could not see) But that's OK. Its better if you guys stay in the city and don't screw things up out here for those of us who live here!
That's odd. Thursday night after dinner I stopped by Imagina in San Miguel. Around 50 girls, maybe more. Around 35 guys. Most girls between 20 and 30 years old. A few between 30 and 40. I did not see any older then that (although its possible there were some I could not see) But that's OK. Its better if you guys stay in the city and don't screw things up out here for those of us who live here!Apologies Gandolf. I was not talking about boliches and that was my mistake. You have posted a bit about Imagina over the years so could you also post the address. San Miguel would be well off the radar for most but I wouldn't mind a look. Thanks.
Argento
Apologies Gandolf. I was not talking about boliches and that was my mistake. You have posted a bit about Imagina over the years so could you also post the address. San Miguel would be well off the radar for most but I wouldn't mind a look. Thanks.
ArgentoI don't know the exact street address but I wll get it for you. Or if you tske the train from LaCroze you can get off at Sgt Barufaldi and its across the street. 20 minutes out. Biggest problem is no english is spoken.
WorldTravel69
06-13-11, 12:52
http://www.foro-escorts.com.ar/foros/f168/imagina-san-miguel-100293/
I don't know the exact street address but I wll get it for you. Or if you tske the train from LaCroze you can get off at Sgt Barufaldi and its across the street. 20 minutes out. Biggest problem is no english is spoken.
DownUnderView
06-14-11, 20:40
http://www.foro-escorts.com.ar/foros/f168/imagina-san-miguel-100293/
Thanks for this.
FYI. Apparently, Madahos, Hippo and Black have just increased prices of chica's drinks to 400 pesos.
Gato Hunter
08-17-11, 22:26
So you have an entrance of 190p, a chica drink at 400p, and. Chicas asking for 800. Thats 1400 pesos, or 350$.
Vegas is a better option.
The soy market must be doing well.
Commentary.
I monger in Amsterdam 7-12 times a year. After thinking about it. I can smoke hash, eat dinner, enjoy the company of a girl just as hot as anything in there for the same price maybe just a touch more depending on the hash prices.
Are they all going out of business?
These clubs are ridiculous. I can understand going there a few times to have the club experience. There are just too many other options after you have experienced an upper-end gentleman's club with all the girls to go. After a few times, unless you only have a day or two in town-silly.
Newbies, check-out the tread on well priced chicas, independent chicas. For the newbies the girls there don't respect guys who ridiculously over pay and you will likely not see there best game. This opinion is based on having outside the club regular client with a few high end club ladies. Comments like: see me before work, the clubs is only for idiots. There are just too many gorgerous, highly skilled 400 peso girls.
If you have never seen the insides of these places, go, have your one over priced drink. Hang-out and chat up a few ladies and leave with or without a girl. These clubs are part of the baries experience-but otherwise they are really silly.
Well, if anybody feels better the girls in Madahos yesterday were screaming bloody murder since number of copas went down significantly. In a sense it was more fun since everybody was there at 2:30.
Until now I've found it entertaining to visit the scene in particular since in the past these visits produced some enjoyable and long lasting connections but what is too much is too much. Price to quality ratio just went through the roof.
BTW, if relevant, in my experience from the last week it's still relatively simple to bring the chica's price down to 600 pesos both in Madahos and Hippo.
RandomQuestion
08-18-11, 11:24
I agree with Miami Bob. Not to disparage the club scene as some people like it. But I'm a newbie to BsAs and I hardly speak any Spanish but I've had two great experiences so far going the independent chica route and the most I've paid so far is $400. Granted, I'm new to the scene and may have gotten lucky.
I may go to Madahos just to check it out, as others have suggested, but 350 USD (total outlay) is a lot of money, for me at least.
At 1400 pesos I cannot imagine many locals attend these clubs. I have never been to the clubs but are they frequented by gringos or portenos? IS there really the market to keep these clubs afloat?
Silver Star
08-18-11, 14:21
At 1400 pesos I cannot imagine many locals attend these clubs. I have never been to the clubs but are they frequented by gringos or portenos? IS there really the market to keep these clubs afloat?The main customers in these Clubs, especially Hippo are filthy rich Argentines.
Fred.
www.silverstarcar.com
Premium Transfers, without the 5 Star Hotel Prices
Well, it's always the question of preferences. If the idea is one hour sex, there is no discussion. With good preparation, one can always find better deals on the web. Although (and this is now for non-spanish speakers) this may no be easy. For me, the reason for visiting the places like Madahos is the `game' itself (some people may not like the game though) and also that one may find non-professional girls which may be more open to communication on a different level. This in my limited experience is different from independent girls who go through 4-5 men on daily basis. If I were living here, I would probably have a different point of view.
Otherwise, to respond to the other question regarding who really goes to these places. Indeed, people with a lot of money, but also many locals would attend only for visual pleasure and for chatting with good looking girls for free. For 180 pesos which nowdays is apparently not too much here. May be different from few years ago.
I agree with Miami Bob. Not to disparage the club scene as some people like it. But I'm a newbie to BsAs and I hardly speak any Spanish but I've had two great experiences so far going the independent chica route and the most I've paid so far is $400. Granted, I'm new to the scene and may have gotten lucky.
I may go to Madahos just to check it out, as others have suggested, but 350 USD (total outlay) is a lot of money, for me at least.
Gato Hunter
08-19-11, 23:35
I am going to go one night anyways. I can probably get in free, but I haven't been there in over a year. Last year I went only 3 times due to the poor quality of the chicas.
I am going to go one night anyways. I can probably get in free, but I haven't been there in over a year. Last year I went only 3 times due to the poor quality of the chicas.Amazingly enough, there was a blond with short hair there last week, which we both shared some time with about two years ago. I was amazed that she actually remembered me. All the same, just a bit heavier (both of us).
Otherwise, plenty of nice girls there. But let's how long they last. Another `detail' which they are apparently trying to enforce is that a girl is not allowed to talk with a potential client for more than 10 min without a copa. If they do, they could be thrown out. The most entertaining part is the explanation which the girls were given. That some clients may feel uncomfortable with telling a girl to go away. Right!
Gato Hunter
08-21-11, 00:24
Blonde Paraguayan with a nice ass?
Peter Sideburn
08-22-11, 01:05
Amazingly enough, there was a blond with short hair there last week, which we both shared some time with about two years ago. I was amazed that she actually remembered me. All the same, just a bit heavier (both of us).
Otherwise, plenty of nice girls there. But let's how long they last. Another `detail' which they are apparently trying to enforce is that a girl is not allowed to talk with a potential client for more than 10 min without a copa. If they do, they could be thrown out. The most entertaining part is the explanation which the girls were given. That some clients may feel uncomfortable with telling a girl to go away. Right!I actually think this is not such a bad thing. I remember at a similar bar there finally having to ask one of the male bouncer / managers to tell a couple of ladies to leave me alone as they would not leave and were preventing me from talking to others. They were rude to any other lady that came by etc. Possibly a system with a red and green flip chart that says stay or get the hell away would work instead of 10 minute rule?
Pete
Hotman 666
08-22-11, 12:53
Possibly a system with a red and green flip chart that says stay or get the hell away would work instead of 10 minute rule?
PetePete,
There is a Place in Pattaya Thailand (The Beer Garden) that uses this same system.
They have beer mats (Coasters) that says 'looking' on one side (in green) and 'Just Chilling' on the other side in red.
Rather a good system!
Hotman.
Stan Da Man
08-22-11, 22:27
I actually think this is not such a bad thing. I remember at a similar bar there finally having to ask one of the male bouncer / managers to tell a couple of ladies to leave me alone as they would not leave and were preventing me from talking to others. They were rude to any other lady that came by etc. Possibly a system with a red and green flip chart that says stay or get the hell away would work instead of 10 minute rule?
PeteHow about the green and red coasters like they do at Brazilian churrascarias? That probably wouldn't go over so well in Argentina, though.
I continue to believe that those who deride boliches like Madahos simply "don't get it." You can't compare them to privados. I've been to manyl privados and hate them all. I far prefer to get to know the chica over a few drinks, to look around a bunch before making my selection, and the whole "club scene." I understand that it's more expensive. But, that's what I'm paying for. I've never found a privado that comes even close.
That said, I was in Madaho's two nights about three weeks back. It was a bit depressing compared to years past. There were many new chicas, some good and some not so good. There were a fair number from the last time I was there a few years before that. I still knew most of the wait staff and bouncers. But, the whole place just seemed to be a bit down, as if some of the bloom has fallen off the rose.
I also spent a fair amount of time one night in Hippo. The owner comped us a bottle of vodka after we finished the first one. He clearly "gets it," and I would probably be inclined to spend more time there now. But, their setup is still just a bit uncomfortable. The gals there are pretty good, but there's also a bit more piranha in them. The last thing I want is sharp teeth in one of those places.
At any rate, my larger point is that the comparison between boliches and privados is a false one, in my opinion. If you just want to get your rocks off, or even if you've got a bunch of favoritas at a few privados that you want to go back to, then you are most definitely wasting your money at a place like Madahos. If you're trying to get laid for the cheapest price, then you're definitely wasting your time at any boliche. But, if you're comparing those two experiences on that basis, then I submit that you're missing the point. There's a reason why places like Madahos and Hippo are still in business, and still appear to be thriving, even if they are a bit down from past years. It's not because everyone in there is stupid, as some would have you believe. That's just sour grapes, in my opinion. It's because there are folks who want that experience.
To put it slightly different: If my only mongering choices were outcalls and privados, then I probably wouldn't monger. I understand that many people don't feel that way. That's fine. But, have a modicum of respect for those who don't appreciate all the finer points of outcalls and privados. Maybe, just maybe, there are different venues for different tastes. If you can direct me to a Madahos experience with just as many quality gals for sale, and just as convenient a location, at a cheaper price, then please do. But, if you send me to an apartment on Santa Fe or Junin, then you've missed the point. Just my two cents.
Gato Hunter
08-22-11, 23:39
Great post Stan, we should hang out sometime.
I miss La Lopez, it was the great in between.
Churiflies
08-23-11, 00:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3wKsSlUzXQ
How about the green and red coasters like they do at Brazilian churrascarias? That probably wouldn't go over so well in Argentina, though.
I continue to believe that those who deride boliches like Madahos simply "don't get it." You can't compare them to privados. I've been to manyl privados and hate them all. I far prefer to get to know the chica over a few drinks, to look around a bunch before making my selection, and the whole "club scene." I understand that it's more expensive. But, that's what I'm paying for. I've never found a privado that comes even close.
That said, I was in Madaho's two nights about three weeks back. It was a bit depressing compared to years past. There were many new chicas, some good and some not so good. There were a fair number from the last time I was there a few years before that. I still knew most of the wait staff and bouncers. But, the whole place just seemed to be a bit down, as if some of the bloom has fallen off the rose.
I also spent a fair amount of time one night in Hippo. The owner comped us a bottle of vodka after we finished the first one. He clearly "gets it," and I would probably be inclined to spend more time there now. But, their setup is still just a bit uncomfortable. The gals there are pretty good, but there's also a bit more piranha in them. The last thing I want is sharp teeth in one of those places.
At any rate, my larger point is that the comparison between boliches and privados is a false one, in my opinion. If you just want to get your rocks off, or even if you've got a bunch of favoritas at a few privados that you want to go back to, then you are most definitely wasting your money at a place like Madahos. If you're trying to get laid for the cheapest price, then you're definitely wasting your time at any boliche. But, if you're comparing those two experiences on that basis, then I submit that you're missing the point. There's a reason why places like Madahos and Hippo are still in business, and still appear to be thriving, even if they are a bit down from past years. It's not because everyone in there is stupid, as some would have you believe. That's just sour grapes, in my opinion. It's because there are folks who want that experience.
To put it slightly different: If my only mongering choices were outcalls and privados, then I probably wouldn't monger. I understand that many people don't feel that way. That's fine. But, have a modicum of respect for those who don't appreciate all the finer points of outcalls and privados. Maybe, just maybe, there are different venues for different tastes. If you can direct me to a Madahos experience with just as many quality gals for sale, and just as convenient a location, at a cheaper price, then please do. But, if you send me to an apartment on Santa Fe or Junin, then you've missed the point. Just my two cents.I agree, very good post. I may not have been to BA before, in a few weeks it will be my first, but been mongering (in many places around the world) enough to agree. I prefer to chit chat a bit with the chicas, to get a feel for them and to see what kind of chemistry or sparks we can create. Walk in, fuck and walk out is not my thing, unless I have had contact with the lady previously.
If someone wants to have a beer with an Argentinian noobie, feel free to let me know, in Madahos, Hippos or elsewhere.
Gato Hunter
09-01-11, 10:36
I ended up at Madahos at the end of the night last night. When I arrived I dropped my guys name so I could get in free and get a table down front. The door men looked at me like I was nuts. After some explanation they told me that he fell over dead from a heart attack about two months ago. This was the old guy with the pony tail. I still got in free, but there were no tables down in front. Next time I can get a table no problem one of the other guys remembered me as did two waiters.
The place was full, the recent prices increases have not slowed this place down one bit. The quality of the chicas was a little disappointing, there were a few hot ones but they were few and far between. The dancers however have kicked it up a notch or two and there were some real stunners up on the poles.
I talked to a few girls, some that I knew for 6 years even. One of my favoritas from la lopez was trying really heard to get me to take her out, but I was not paying for a chica drink for her quality. Another favorita had the right idea, I gave her my address and she showed up around 4:30 and stayed for two hours.
Sorry to hear about Juan Carlos. He was always friendly to me in the club. RIP
HungryStud101
09-02-11, 01:24
As a newbie to the BA scene and after my fiirst and only visit to Madahos I can tell you how I feel about the place. In short I felt like a gringo ATM. Like "Stan the Man" I too love a party scene and I am willing to pay more for it. This is why I love the Termas scene in Rio and the German FKK Scene and the Carry out bars of Thailand. The problem with Madahos is the value is not there. In the Termas my entire nights drinks, one session with the girl (which includes outstanding GFE service) and all the kissing, dancing, and making out would come to 200 USD. 200 USD is what it cost me for just the Madahos hooker girl to come home with me. For the money I spent in Madahos + all the cab fare I could have paid my entry and been laid 3 times in a German Fkk. I love the party scene and I am willing to pay more fo the party scene but what is reasonable? These people obviously did not want my repeat business. Fuck them. I will say that the woman are hot there.
Below I have posted my review of Madahos. I posted this in another thread but I thought it would fit here. If you haven't already read this, feel free.
The bad – I walk in Madahos with a bottle of water. The bouncer is making a 'drink up' signal and whistling and saying in broken English 'drink up. ' He repeats himself 4 times (jackass). I ignore him and put my water her down. They want a 180 Peso cover. I pay the Gringo tax. 180 Pesos gets you a free drink and entrance to the club. This is not bad because a beer cost 120 Pesos or 30$ USD! There are hookers and dancers. The hookers want 300 USD$ to go home with you and you have to buy them a drink for 250$ Pesos. I am told that you can negotiate down to 150 USD. I talk to a nice looking Paraguan hooker with sexy jet black hair. If it weren't for her crooked teeth she would be a stunner. She can speak English and she offers me 200$ USD. I decline. I want to shop some more. I interview just about everyone I am interested in and make a few offers. I see a dancer who is flawless. As she is spinning on a pole I ask her 'Quanto custa? ' She answers 500$USD. No way!
Damn! I should have taken he Paraguan with black hair. Someone else scoops her up and she is led out the door. A little cutie Argentinean that I interviewed earlier who speaks no English comes to tell me through an interpreter that she accepts my offer of 200USD$. She is a fair skin loira. 21 year old 5'2' spinner cutie pie with small natural 'B' cups. She would be a real stunner but her eyes are a little too close together or something. Anyway, I buy her the rip-off drink for 250 AR pesos. She drinks half of it and she is off to change out of her sexy black minni-dress and into her respectable street clothes so she can come to my hotel with me. I look at her half a drink – a mimosa I think. The Bartender tries to take it away. 'Give me that' I say. ' That's 60$ Mimosa, ' and I suck it down and savor it. My cutie-pie comes back grabs me by the hand and says 'vamos? ' We hop in a cab outside the door. I notice the cabbie doesn't turn on the meter. We get to my hotel and the driver asks for 40 AR Pesos. This is about rip-off #4 for the night. I protest and tell him I have not paid more than 20 AR Pesos for a cab ride all week and the ride to the bar was 15 Pesos with tip. This does no good as he chooses to speak no English. The Gringo cash machine is not happy. I am about to draw a line in the sand. It's the fucking point! Cutie pie grabs the extra 20 Pesos from my hand and hands it over to the driver. We go in and register at the front desk and cutie-pie hands over her I. D. I can't wait to get her up in my room.
Time for rip-off # 5. I give her the 200USD up front. She inspects every bill by holding it up to the light while stretching it out. 'WTF, ' I am thinking. If I gave her a gold coin would she bite it? Perhaps she is not so innocent as she looks. She strips down to her g-string and little bra. She looks edible. But wait. There are rules. No DFK, no DATY. What? No DATY? This is my specialty. SP's love my DATY. Some have said 'Hungry this is crazy. I should be paying you. ' There would be no DATY on this baby girl tonight? She uses her right hand as a stiff arm like a Heisman trophy winner as I struggle to get as close to her pussy as I can. Instead she masturbates and then provides a CBJ. I fuck her missionary and I love her teenage girl like spinner body. I cum buckets. We lay for a few minutes. No talking. What's the point. Not a fucking word of English from her and Eu nao falo Espanhol for me. We are 20-30 minutes into the date and she is ready to leave. I need to give her some feedback. I need to provide some constructive criticism because she is young and has some potential I believe. I log into Babbelfish and start a conversation. I tell her I am disappointed with the service. She tells me she has to go to the bowling alley (It is 5AM). Then she starts to put the minni-bar in her hand bag. First the chocolate, than the Pringles, than champagne. I grab her arm. And I say 'uno. ' I grab the champagne and the Pringles and let her have the chocolate. I grab her gently by the arm and walk her to the door. I am about to kick my 30 minute 200USD$ investment out of my room. She stops me and says 'Change for Taxi? Change? ' (Ahh she can speak some English.) I give her 10 AR but she wants more. 'Change, ' she says. I give her another 10 Pesos and say goodbye. What a lousy lay. This was "the bad" and Madahos is a rip-off. Steer clear.
I went there last week and it cost me 210P for a black label. I just wanted to see if it was as bad as I already thought it would be reading the reports. I didn't even bother talking to any of the girls, except one started talking to me, a big huge monster chica, I almost puked. Boy has this place come down. Ugly women, I mean yeah some great bodies with horse faces, but lots of oversized women. At least at Blacks, for 150P I got my black label, filled up to the top of the glass, the girls won't harass you. But this place, and what a trashy bartender. Sorry, no, that was my last time in there. At the most, I would pay 80 Pesos entry, including a drink, may be 80 Pesos for a chica drink, and may be 600 Pesos for an all nighter. Anything above that is a waste, the average income in Argentina is still not more than 1, 000 Pesos a month. And from what it looks, another crisis is down the road, just like in 2001.
TejanoLibre
09-04-11, 01:43
ALL of the clubs have opted for the "Argentine Economics 101" standard.
Less customers equals raising the prices!
Just like the Lomos are smaller but more expensive!
Boycott the clubs!
Give the money to the girls that really need it damn it!
The tried and true Indies that do not require entrance fees and exit fines!
Get yourself a Harem, keep them happy and fuck the clubs!
But then again I live here so it's a lot easier than if you just pop in for the weekend!
Make yourself a little black book and fuck the clubs with agressive and man-made, case-hardened chicas!
TL
On my last 4 visits to BA I did not even go in there.
Wild Walleye
09-04-11, 22:06
Give the money to the girls that really need it damn it!
The tried and true Indies that do not require entrance feesIf they don't have 'entrance' fees, is it free?
Sorry TL, I couldn't help being a smart ass!
TejanoLibre
09-04-11, 22:43
If they don't have 'entrance' fees, is it free?
Sorry TL, I couldn't help being a smart ass!I thought about that a few hours later!
TL
Gato Hunter
09-05-11, 01:15
***** about it all you want, the place is packed and the Argies have the money to spend in there now. There are some very wealthy individuals that go in there and spend a lot of money because they can.
Why do I go? Because I can.
TejanoLibre
09-05-11, 01:24
* about it all you want, the place is packed and the argies have the money to spend in there now. There are some very wealthy individuals that go in there and spend a lot of money because they can.
Why do i go? Because i can.but there are better places with much better girls for the same price!
Tl
GATO you are a powerful and attractive man and absolutely can spend all the money you wish anywhere you wish. TL has this lovely lady who only charges us$700 for 90 minutes of her time. Because she can[or at least TL tells us she can]. Now, Baires is higher priced than Las Vegas because it can be. [thanks to the recession which isn't a recession]
Alice looked into the looking glass and the rabbit and possum danced the tengo as Carlos Gardel sang with Mick Jagger. Just a few comments on the absurdity of life in the fast lane.
Madahos is a must is you haven't been there. Everyone should monger as they wish. Newbies if you haven't been to The big M spend some pesos and enjoy. The guys who know Baires pays their money and makes their own choices as they should. This post is not intended to offend any one in particular and if it does, I'll borrow WW's line: Only Kidding guys-I sometimes have those same "smart ass" tendencies which many might interpreted as just "dumb ass"
Went to the big M last night with my main man Stranger. This place is packed with "minas" looking fine from head to toe. At least 20 working girls and about 6-8 dancers. The place has a pretty price tag but the more and more I spoke with stranger I realized this is not an obstacle but merely a hurdle to some of the finest "lomo" in Buenos Aires.
Stan Da Man
09-30-11, 14:17
As a newbie to the BA scene and after my fiirst and only visit to Madahos I can tell you how I feel about the place. In short I felt like a gringo ATM. Like "Stan the Man" I too love a party scene and I am willing to pay more for it. This is why I love the Termas scene in Rio and the German FKK Scene and the Carry out bars of Thailand. The problem with Madahos is the value is not there. In the Termas my entire nights drinks, one session with the girl (which includes outstanding GFE service) and all the kissing, dancing, and making out would come to 200 USD. 200 USD is what it cost me for just the Madahos hooker girl to come home with me. For the money I spent in Madahos + all the cab fare I could have paid my entry and been laid 3 times in a German Fkk. I love the party scene and I am willing to pay more fo the party scene but what is reasonable? These people obviously did not want my repeat business. Fuck them. I will say that the woman are hot there.Sorry to hear you didn't have a good night there. But, I agree with you on the above. The termas in Rio are a better "bargain." I don't look at either from a price perspective. I'm just talking about the experience. Hotter garotas, g-strings, better music, better setting, better atmosphere, better fee model, etc, etc. And, in terms of prices, you don't have the crazy chica drink rules, and the booze is far more reasonably priced. There are some quirks. Places like Centaurus will charge you a high entrance fee, but the fee goes toward your first garota. Basically, you pay for a 40-minute session before you set foot in the place. But, once they get to know you and see that you regularly spend money there, they waive the fees.
My favorite place, Lomo, charges no up-front fee and the place has a great atmosphere and great girls. An up and comer is Solarium. It's a bit further from Copacabana or Ipanema, but it's well worth the trip. It's a medium sized place with great looking garotas. On the final Tuesday of every month, they have "school girl night." No, they don't bring in little school girls. But, all the regular garotas dress up in school girl outfits. It's quite a sight to behold. And, you step out onto the back porch and you've got a great view of the Christ statue, which is useful if you spend a fair amount of time there.
Like Madahos, I would suggest that anyone with the means give Rio a try. It is definitely different and, for my money, a much better experience.
Sorry to hear you didn't have a good night there. But, I agree with you on the above. The termas in Rio are a better "bargain." I don't look at either from a price perspective. I'm just talking about the experience. Hotter garotas, g-strings, better music, better setting, better atmosphere, better fee model, etc, etc. And, in terms of prices, you don't have the crazy chica drink rules, and the booze is far more reasonably priced. There are some quirks. Places like Centaurus will charge you a high entrance fee, but the fee goes toward your first garota. Basically, you pay for a 40-minute session before you set foot in the place. But, once they get to know you and see that you regularly spend money there, they waive the fees.
My favorite place, Lomo, charges no up-front fee and the place has a great atmosphere and great girls. An up and comer is Solarium. It's a bit further from Copacabana or Ipanema, but it's well worth the trip. It's a medium sized place with great looking garotas. On the final Tuesday of every month, they have "school girl night." No, they don't bring in little school girls. But, all the regular garotas dress up in school girl outfits. It's quite a sight to behold. And, you step out onto the back porch and you've got a great view of the Christ statue, which is useful if you spend a fair amount of time there.
Like Madahos, I would suggest that anyone with the means give Rio a try. It is definitely different and, for my money, a much better experience.I haven't been to B. A. In 3 years because I've been going to Brazil mostly but looks like Madahos hasn't changed. I much prefer Sao Paulo scene with upscale boites. For about $100usd for entrance that includes drinks or food and the girls are much friendlier and playful and most importantly GFE / pse. I've setup dates with solid 9's for all day 24hrs for 500usd. I was planning on a trip back to BA but looks like its just not worth it despite the great exchange rate.
Member #4112
10-10-11, 12:34
Stan you forgot 4X4 and 65 in centro, during the week they are a great place to visit even if you are staying in Copacobana and they open at 2.
Stan Da Man
10-11-11, 13:49
I haven't been to B. A. In 3 years because I've been going to Brazil mostly but looks like Madahos hasn't changed. I much prefer Sao Paulo scene with upscale boites. For about $100usd for entrance that includes drinks or food and the girls are much friendlier and playful and most importantly GFE / pse. I've setup dates with solid 9's for all day 24hrs for 500usd. I was planning on a trip back to BA but looks like its just not worth it despite the great exchange rate.Hobbying, what do you recommend in Sao Paulo? How do they compare to Madaho's?
I've been to Cafe Foto a few times. It's more upscale than Madaho's, the garotas are sexier by a long shot, but it's also much, much more expensive. A number of years ago, I was in Bomboa, which was good back then. But, I've heard the whole scene in Sao Paulo is drying up. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
Doppel, I didn't really forget Quatro por Quatro. It's just not one of my favorites. But, I agree with you that it's unfair not to mention it. It's easily the largest terma in Rio. And, there are some great looking gals there. It's just a bit impersonal for my taste. But, obviously, a lot of people love it, especially that pole to slide down into the bar. I've seen a number of gals slide down upside down, which never ceases to amaze me. I didn't know about the other one you mentioned. 65, so I'll have to check that out. Next time you're in Rio, let me know. I'm in Brazil a lot these days.
It's not really fair to compare Madaho's to the termas. But, I do think the comparison to the boites in Sao Paulo is fair. It's the same basic setup. I also find the regional differences interesting. Why haven't the Rio termas caught on to any great degree in Sao Paulo or Argentina? Why hasn't the upscale boite caught on in Rio? Both places have a smattering of what the other has, but nothing serious.
Hobbying, what do you recommend in Sao Paulo? How do they compare to Madaho's?
I've been to Cafe Foto a few times. It's more upscale than Madaho's, the garotas are sexier by a long shot, but it's also much, much more expensive. A number of years ago, I was in Bomboa, which was good back then. But, I've heard the whole scene in Sao Paulo is drying up. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
Doppel, I didn't really forget Quatro por Quatro. It's just not one of my favorites. But, I agree with you that it's unfair not to mention it. It's easily the largest terma in Rio. And, there are some great looking gals there. It's just a bit impersonal for my taste. But, obviously, a lot of people love it, especially that pole to slide down into the bar. I've seen a number of gals slide down upside down, which never ceases to amaze me. I didn't know about the other one you mentioned. 65, so I'll have to check that out. Next time you're in Rio, let me know. I'm in Brazil a lot these days.
It's not really fair to compare Madaho's to the termas. But, I do think the comparison to the boites in Sao Paulo is fair. It's the same basic setup. I also find the regional differences interesting. Why haven't the Rio termas caught on to any great degree in Sao Paulo or Argentina? Why hasn't the upscale boite caught on in Rio? Both places have a smattering of what the other has, but nothing serious.I usually go to Foto and Bomboa. They are more expensive in SP but the quality is great and the first programa with a girl is expensive when including entrance and motel. But once they know you are cool and safe to be with they will see you outside for less and youavoid the entrance or motel fees. Many times garotas have told me they rather spend a day with me someone they know than to go with 2-3 guys they don't know per day.
Then there are the MP. http://revistamagazine.com.br/ The last 30 pages are all MP and boites. Alot of websites with the girls' pictures. The most expensive ones are ofcourse better quality and the girls make like 200Reals per programa They need to see 4-5 guys theres to make what I would give them per day.
If you go to SP the last weekend in Nov it will be Formula 1. The boites will have 300-500 girls because they come from all over Brazil just to work during Formula 1 when they can make alot of money. Price will be somewhat inflated but the selection and quality wis incredible. As for boites in Rio, I have never been to one because I just don't like girls from Rio but I know alot of the hot ones fly to Sao Paulo just to work in the boites because thats where the money is.
Madaho's should be the last place to look for a chica in Buenos Aires.
Prices are insane, the chica's onda (level of service) is rarely acceptable and never great.
Places like Madaho's exist for those who like to be seen at a scene, show their friends or talk and tell about chicas.
Anyone who is looking for a high standard GFE service from a pretty woman, will be disappointed at Madaho's.
Hobbying -
I see you are still travelling the world in search of 9's to have fun with.
A most enjoyable and worthwhile pursuit, I will agree.
Hobbying.
I see you are still travelling the world in search of 9's to have fun with.
A most enjoyable and worthwhile pursuit, I will agree.Sent you a pm
I do not come here as much as I used to simply because it is expensive.
Entrance 170, drinks 160, Chicka drinks 400.
Girls ask about 1000 each.
If you can afford it hanging out there is grate fun and the girls are pretty, I brought home two dancers last night and had them performing for me, and on me. (Sorry for the loud music guys!)
Some of the girls I have taken from here are astonishing beautiful, obviously there is a few that are only half descant but compared to any other club I know in BA the quality of the girls are huge.
Never had problems getting number from girls and I normally find one I like, bring here home and get her number and get here to come before or after work in the future.
Only problem here is choosing a girl, and the money you spend!
Gauntlet77
12-09-11, 22:29
I haven't been here for ages. Thanks for the update.
How much for the dancers?
I do not come here as much as I used to simply because it is expensive.
Entrance 170, drinks 160, Chicka drinks 400.
Girls ask about 1000 each.
If you can afford it hanging out there is grate fun and the girls are pretty, I brought home two dancers last night and had them performing for me, and on me. (Sorry for the loud music guys!)
Some of the girls I have taken from here are astonishing beautiful, obviously there is a few that are only half descant but compared to any other club I know in BA the quality of the girls are huge.
Never had problems getting number from girls and I normally find one I like, bring here home and get her number and get here to come before or after work in the future.
Only problem here is choosing a girl, and the money you spend!
I haven't been here for ages. Thanks for the update.
How much for the dancers?Depends, I paid 1000 pesos each, but that is way lower than going rate I guess, no drinks I got them to pick me up in theyr car when the place closed.
Gauntlet77
12-15-11, 14:38
Depends, I paid 1000 pesos each, but that is way lower than going rate I guess, no drinks I got them to pick me up in theyr car when the place closed.Good negotiating man. The dancers at Hippo open with a 1, 500 peso quote.
TejanoLibre
12-15-11, 16:04
Good negotiating man. The dancers at Hippo open with a 1, 500 peso quote.530p per drink!
180p cover!
1 hour rush job!
If you go without my guidance you get fucked without getting kissed!
TL
Sorry Charlie , this applies to Hippo !
Still my favourite club, for chica choice and atmosphere, but a big jump in prices since December 2010. I'm ok with paying 150 pesos for a drink and the entertainment (I don't come to these places to get drunk) but the chica drink charge has doubled and the girl's gift is way up from before. Based on last year's baseline of 600 I was expecting to come in around the 800 mark, but soon realised that was not going to be on under normal conditions. The faces on the door are the same, and they usually wave me through, but someone told me that one of the old management team from Black is now running the show and brought in the changes a few months back. Some of the girls weren't happy about the impact on their custom and moved on elsewhere. On my first visit after a break, I usually spot at least two or three old favourites but this time round they'd all disappeared. Good to have an open playing field and the chica standard was still high, but I missed seeing the old faces. Net result of the increase was that I spent less time (and less money) in Madahos than on most other trips – I hope they don't end up killing the golden goose. Instead I ended up trying various new places, with varying degrees of success. It was still great though to come back to Madahos a day or two before I left – for me it's the best place if you forget the money. When I was there, I had a hell of a good time.
First night I rolled up earlier than usual and took my time to look around. Soon spotted a stunning looking brunette in a sexy patterned micro-dress and big wide belt slung round her hips. From Misiones province in the north, long dark hair and big brown eyes, she looked like Penelope Cruz on steroids and I couldn't keep my eyes off her long suntanned legs. Nice onda too. However, the negotiation fell flat. She quoted 1200 pesos, and then dropped to 1000, but she wouldn't go any lower and with no reference point, I felt this must be too high. Big mistake – the one that got away! I soon realised from other enquiries that 1000 was going to be the ballpark figure for that time of the night. On a second visit, at a later time, another girl offered 900, and on a slow Saturday near closing time a third girl offered 800 with no chica drink. But even that was with strings – she wanted the money up front (ostensibly to pay off her exit fee on the way out) and I said no.
Coming back to the first night, I did eventually end up with a face I recognised from the past. I'd seen Daniela (brunette, dark eyes, petite, curves in the right places, firm gym toned body) on previous trips and liked what I saw, but for some reason never got to making the approach. She recognised me too, and came over when she saw me at the bar. Good example of the chica grapevine syndrome. Very friendly and affectionate, she explained that she'd seen me repeating with various other girls in the past and reckoned that I was an ok kind of guy. We got talking, she was very keen. 1000 was her final offer and at this point I jumped. Plenty of time in the quiet back area with lots of caressing and light kissing. Daniela has at least two different 'looks' – the rock chick look, tight white hotpants and hair worn loose, which I like, or a more demure look, lacy dress and hair scraped back, which is less my thing. Tonight she was rock chick and I was happy for her to take control. We stretched it out in the club to just gone 3am and then went to the telo a short walk down the street. Nice mellow, unrushed session (was still a bit jet lagged after arriving earlier that day). Details a bit blurred now, all covered but she did everything I asked and gave me all the time I needed. Good chemistry, offered me her number and one I would repeat with. Went back later in the week on a slow Saturday and she was dancing on the stage and smiled over. Didn't hook up with her that night but I guess I can now say that I've been with a (stand-in) Madahos dancer!
Incidentally there seems to be a two-tier chica drink price in operation now at this club. I paid 300 pesos (and not the full 400 peso hit) on the two occasions I pulled girls out of here this visit. I never bottomed out whether it was the content of the drink, or the time of night, or the impact on the outing duration that made the difference. The girls seemed happy to order the 300 peso drink when they knew I was going to take them out, so I had no problem. Also, I had girls chatting to me for quite long periods and was never bothered by the waiter trying to sell the chica drink. Girls were happy to agree their gift before I committed to the drink. The club still wins over several others in this particular department.
My second Madahos outing followed a similar pattern. Sitting at the bar, I noticed a hot looking girl standing close by and trying to get eye contact. She looked familiar and I beckoned her over. She sort of recognised me too. Remembered her name and turned out that we had partied together the one time about 3 years ago. Big hair, good figure, small build but looks much taller in her high heels, sexy black & white mini-dress, could easily pass herself off as Brazilian but she's a local girl and proud of it. Very good onda and couldn't resist her magic. This girl has travelled in Europe and speaks pretty fair English, though we used Spanish for most of the time. Asked her if she'd been with other Brit guys and turns out she's f*cked half the polo teams from Belgrano! This one has plans to work in the UK for a spell as an internet independent. Her type of looks might well fill a gap in that market and I could see her going down a storm in England. Having a little piece of Argentina in my home city would be fun, although the 300 pounds an hour (that's 460 US dollars) she'd be making would soon put her right out of my league. Took her back to my apartment and this was a very strong session. Lots of fun in front of the wall mirror as she modelled some sexy outfits and then body massage on the bed followed by mutual pleasuring and DATY, which made her come. Things went on from there and it turned into a TLN, rare for me as I'm a night owl and sex is the last thing on my mind when I wake up the next day. Still, I was pleased that she felt contented enough to fall asleep next to me and we parted company well after midday.
Finally, another good example of the grapevine! I checked into Madahos later on my trip and both these girls were there and greeted me separately. Later, sitting at the bar, I noticed them standing together at a distance, chatting away and smiling in my direction. Looked like they were comparing notes on every detail of the outings! Luckily I'd agreed the same gift for both girls. In times past I might have addressed this situation by inviting both girls for a threesome, but with Madahos prices up so much, it wasn't really on.
Apologies for the length of this report, but back in the frozen hell of sex prison, it's helped me re-live some of the finer moments of the year in the company of some pretty awesome Madahos chicas!
Chica Chaser
12-23-11, 11:17
Lucas90,
A very well written report. Thanks for taking the time to tell about your experiences.
Chica Chaser
I made an appt with a respected provider but she had to cancel so I went to Madahos.
All the usual scene, girls asking for too much, playing games. Nothing interesting and at all the usual price points. Then I found a nice looking little brunette, very nice, patient with my spanish, funny. Not underaged, probably 25. So all seemed good. We agreed on a price and left.
This is where things got strange. She would kiss me in an almost desperate kind of way. She was enthusiastic, but in an overly forward fake way. I can only describe it like she was starving for something. Then there was crying while trying to be intimate. It really makes me wonder about the other thread talking about a woman being forced into this line of work. I tried to be gentle and positive, finished as quick as I could. I was going to just call it but again she seemed to need me to enjoy it. But the whole thing left me feeling very sad for her and thinking deeply about hobbying in BA.
No names or dates because the last thing this girl needs is more trouble.
Thoughts?
1000+ pesos, let's see that's like over $200USD? Plus the other incidentals such as hotel, that really adds up.
Good heavens.
Entry fee comes to about $40USD? Drinks around the same? How much is the telo?
Is my math right on this? ? ? (Sorry, I'm still calculating in American.)
All your calculations are correct, leading to a simple and ineluctable conclusion: Don't go there. I lived in BA for seven years and went there once when someone else offered to buy me a drink in exchange for translating. I screwed over 500 women in those seven years, none from Madaho's, and I never felt like I was missing anything.
Roman, Maybe the girl was relatively new to the business.
A couple years ago I had a girl from Madahos it was her second night, and I was her first customer. She was sweet, fresh, honest, beautiful. But in bed she was awkward and shy (no crying though). It's probably good that such girls have early experiences with men who are gentle and understanding (as you were) , to counter any negative stereotypes of johns they may have.
We don't usually know the specific reason why a specific girl enters the business, but I think it's fair to say the most common is financial. Most girls view it as a business, and adapt, some even enjoy it, others less so. Who knows the case with your girl, but being new could have been a factor.
Roman, Maybe the girl was relatively new to the
We don't usually know the specific reason why a specific girl enters the business, but I think it's fair to say the most common is financial. Most girls view it as a business, and adapt, some even enjoy it, others less so. Who knows the case with your girl, but being new could have been a factor.Estan,
I appriciate your response and hopefully that is all. We all work for the money and we don't always love the job. But it seemed like more than that. I guess I just need to be more careful selecting women who are clearly making the choice for themselves.
Estan,
I appriciate your response and hopefully that is all. We all work for the money and we don't always love the job. But it seemed like more than that. I guess I just need to be more careful selecting women who are clearly making the choice for themselves.Very true, almost all the girls work for money. Now and then I have come across one that did it just out of an almost perverse enjoyment. But it has been the general rule that they enter the business out of sheer economic despair. Some have adapted and end up more or less enjoying it and others never really adapt and are constantly searching for a way out. As I have mentioned before, Madhos is under investigation and more and more girls are appearing in the media with stories of how they are "forced" to work there (Black is also mentioned). The most common way is getting them addicted to drugs and then keeping them supplied. Of course, all these testimonies must be taken with a pinch of salt as we all know that working girls aren't known to be especially trustful and the media is not all that concerned with veracity as long as it's scandalous and sells. The best bet on getting a girl that's making her own choice is with independents and as a rule they end up being better experiences all over. Personally, and I suspect most mongers living here, prefer to have a few "favoritas" who you get to know a little better personally. This usually ends up being much cheaper and the performance is much better.
Of course, that is difficult for the chaps here for only a few days or for those that enjoy the club experience so I recommend first watching the girl's body language as she relates to the other girls in the club. How she interacts with the others. Does she laugh freely when with the other girls or even the waiters etc. Then once you call her over, take your sight off her tits for a moment and look at her eyes. Does she have a glint in them or are they shifty or dull? There is no need for me to tell you which one will be the best experience.
Just my Penny Farthing
TejanoLibre
02-21-12, 00:41
Very true, almost all the girls work for money. Now and then I have come across one that did it just out of an almost perverse enjoyment. But it has been the general rule that they enter the business out of sheer economic despair. Some have adapted and end up more or less enjoying it and others never really adapt and are constantly searching for a way out. As I have mentioned before, Madhos is under investigation and more and more girls are appearing in the media with stories of how they are "forced" to work there (Black is also mentioned). The most common way is getting them addicted to drugs and then keeping them supplied. Of course, all these testimonies must be taken with a pinch of salt as we all know that working girls aren't known to be especially trustful and the media is not all that concerned with veracity as long as it's scandalous and sells. The best bet on getting a girl that's making her own choice is with independents and as a rule they end up being better experiences all over. Personally, and I suspect most mongers living here, prefer to have a few "favoritas" who you get to know a little better personally. This usually ends up being much cheaper and the performance is much better.
Of course, that is difficult for the chaps here for only a few days or for those that enjoy the club experience so I recommend first watching the girl's body language as she relates to the other girls in the club. How she interacts with the others. Does she laugh freely when with the other girls or even the waiters etc. Then once you call her over, take your sight off her tits for a moment and look at her eyes. Does she have a glint in them or are they shifty or dull? There is no need for me to tell you which one will be the best experience.
Just my Penny FarthingYou have been warned!
TL
Captain Looney
02-21-12, 02:35
TL,
Trying to PM you but your box is full.
Derek.
You have been warned!
TL
TejanoLibre
02-21-12, 06:57
TL,
Trying to PM you but your box is full.
Derek.I will rid myself of the lurkers that only want free information and have nothing to give us!
I AM talking about the fucking cheap bastards that live in their cubicles and live their lives vicariously through me!
They only PM or send msg!
Asking for help and offering nothing in return!
Not even a fucking phone call or "Thank You for Giving Me the Best Sex in My Life From One of Your Girls!"
Not a single post for fear that their fucking mother-in-law in Boston might put 2 plus 2 together and get 5!
You pussies! I get you laid, I save you fucking money and you can't even give a proper reach around!
It is a custom to thank the person that gets you laid!
All in all, most of you are VERY appreciative and demonstrative, but some of you assholes don't even say thank you and just fuck my girls without a smile!
Things will change, no love equals no glove!
I expect Love for my work! It cost me money to get you laid!
TL
I will rid myself of the lurkers that only want free information and have nothing to give us!
I AM talking about the fucking cheap bastards that live in their cubicles and live their lives vicariously through me!
They only PM or send msg!
Asking for help and offering nothing in return!
Not even a fucking phone call or "Thank You for Giving Me the Best Sex in My Life From One of Your Girls!"
Not a single post for fear that their fucking mother-in-law in Boston might put 2 plus 2 together and get 5!
You pussies! I get you laid, I save you fucking money and you can't even give a proper reach around!
It is a custom to thank the person that gets you laid!
All in all, most of you are VERY appreciative and demonstrative, but some of you assholes don't even say thank you and just fuck my girls without a smile!
Things will change, no love equals no glove!
I expect Love for my work! It cost me money to get you laid!
TLNosotros te quiero! Keep it coming!
Not even a fucking phone call or "Thank You for Giving Me the Best Sex in My Life From One of Your Girls!"
Not a single post for fear that their fucking mother-in-law in Boston might put 2 plus 2 together and get 5!
You pussies! I get you laid, I save you fucking money and you can't even give a proper reach around!
It is a custom to thank the person that gets you laid!TL, with your permission I will quote you on ISG. Out of every 10 guys I help out, 9 disappear afterwards without any thanks. Its as if they feel ashamed or something. I just call it a lack of class.
I have planned a few trips and just never made it. You are as gracious a hosts as exists! Are you staying in BA more than normal or just enjoying posting on AP?
Gato Hunter
05-07-12, 10:34
I went to Madahos last night. One of my girls still works there from years ago. She looked worn out after all these years. Girls are starting off at 1k pesos. Management still knows me so I got in for free. At 3am there was less than 5 punters on a Sunday night. I was not really that impressed with the girls. Lots of 6-7's.
I ended up pulling a dancer. This was the hottest girl I have ever been with, and she was not a dud in bed at all. Usually super hot girls are not any good. Not this one. I had a good buena onda from the start. We went to the telo down the street for a few hours. I had already got laid three times yesterday so I had a hard time finishing. That was ok I enjoyed fucking this girl I could not believe I was with. I paid Europe pricing but I don't give a shit. I never fucked a girl that hot in Europe. She was a 9. 8.
This is not recommended for newbies LOL!
This place is likely off the list for most. Based upon Aqualung's thoughtful post this is likely the first place to be raided.
It is really amazing how few reviews of Madahos we get here, maybe one every 3 months. And even fewer of Black and Hippo!
Good stuff GH, nothing wrong with sampling the very high end once in awhile. It's all part of the hobby. I'm going to guess you paid something like 1500 pesos for the dancer, maybe 2300 total ($500 US)? I have the same attitude, if I have extra funds I will splurge when on vacation, at least a little.
I am looking forward to visiting Madahos again later this year. In the meantime I've found a gem of a strip club to tide me over, a lower-end type of place but with several brasilian hotties where beer, barside groping and backroom service (15 min) total about $120. Just had one this weekend, the chica was a solid 9. I still love the Recoleta clubs, but comparing current BA pricing with some of the stuff I'm finding near home lately, has me adjusting the BA value proposition. I'll still be back though.
GH hope you can share more reports on the Recoleta clubs.
Rubiks Cube
05-12-12, 16:42
I've been going to madahos for years and have been huge fan. I have to say it is going downhill fast. I was there in February and was hoping that it was just because so many people were on vacation. Went last night and was shocked at how quiet the place was for a Friday. It was like a Monday from a year ago. It doesn't help that it now costs 300-400 pesos to buy a girl a drink. I think with the prices the way they are people just find a girl and leave as quick as possible. I really hope the place comes back to life.
TejanoLibre
05-12-12, 17:18
I've been going to madahos for years and have been huge fan. I have to say it is going downhill fast. I was there in February and was hoping that it was just because so many people were on vacation. Went last night and was shocked at how quiet the place was for a Friday. It was like a Monday from a year ago. It doesn't help that it now costs 300-400 pesos to buy a girl a drink. I think with the prices the way they are people just find a girl and leave as quick as possible. I really hope the place comes back to life.Fuck the clubs!
You can do T. L. N for the price of admission and a chica's fucking drink!
With guaranteed results if she is recommended by one of us!
You pays your monies you takes your fucking chances with some unknown in a fucking fuck bar!
They are called Fuck Bars because they FUCk YOU!
I will take you there and get you in and you can look but don't touch man!
It ain't worth it!
Short time, hurry up, dame tu leche shit after 5 fucking minutes!
The club tours are worth doing Boys; but the girls and drinks and service are usually too high and too low!
I fucking live here and go 4 to 5 days a fucking week!
TL.
P. S. Would you not rather give the girl the money instead of the fucking club?
Gato Hunter
05-12-12, 17:54
Some people like the nightlife experience you get at the clubs
SimpleWrangler
05-12-12, 18:16
I agree. Clubs are not about fucking. Clubs are about nightlife. Hopefully we have clubs like Madaho's and Black. Regular NiteClubs are crowded with guys and girls will avoid any glance. Mongering clubs are the opposite, you can look at them like bouncing your mind. So that's what you pay for.
But if I don't want the BS, I just want to fuck a good looking girl, the faster way it's to make a phone call.
Gato Hunter
05-13-12, 04:57
I'm too drunk and too fucked out to post rightnow. The latter is the important one. This will be a good post tomorrow. Why can't I find any fucking lechuga!
Gato Hunter
05-13-12, 11:19
We hit up Madahos after Nuevo estillio. I think we got there at 2:30. Not too many punters. Stranger and I are well known in there and we're quickly welcomed inside. I ran into one of my favorite girls in there that used to fuck me before work on a few previous trip. She comes up to hug me and puts her hand down my pants playing with my dick while I'm standing at the bar with a drink, life is good. I was out of bullets or we would have left right then and there. We chatted and I somehow with the amount of booze in me memorized her phone number, went in the shitter and texted her. She went back into the crowd and came back in 20 minutes saying I got it right. I guess she went to her locker and checked the phone. Nice girl! I was running out of gas and I had no more bullets. I had to leave my wingman and return to base. He was in good hands with a few chicas. I leave Madahos and I need to get some food in me. The only thing that is open is the pancho place near Jacksons only apartment. I start walking there and when I get right on the corner one my other favoritas walks out of Jackson's old apartment building on her way back to Madahos. She sees me and gets very excited. We chatted for a few minutes, she had to go back to the club but I got another phone number for this week!
RishiYahoo
06-29-12, 20:37
What is the price to get into this club? How much is chica drinks? I don't want to spend anything more than $600 peso.
PianoPlayer
06-30-12, 12:52
What is the price to get into this club? How much is chica drinks? I don't want to spend anything more than $600 peso.This club is not in your price range. Inflation has taken off in the last 9 months. The current entry is 400 Argentinian Pesos, which gets you one drink. One chica drink is another 400 AP. For 1 drink you can take her out for a couple of hours. Chicas are routinely asking 300 US dollars, some will accept 800 AP, some 1000, some will hold out. Dancers are about double the price. The local telo, I. E. Short-time motel up the street, starts at around 200 AP for a room. Inflation is still out of control so expect prices to increase again soon. Bottom line, Madahos is more fun if you are willing to spend 2000 AP / 350 US dollars and up for an evening. You also never know if you will get mechanical service or amazing GFE. Good eye candy more or less guaranteed, but the rest is an expensive gamble. The payoff is finding the girl who comes to the club once a week, is gorgeous and a performer, and gives you her number for extended dates later. It happens, but not every time.
RishiYahoo
06-30-12, 13:11
Ditto! Your prices are accurate. I entered for about 200 pesos. Lots of girls talked to me. 3 even kissed my lips and talked to me. They can't talk for more than 5 mins if you don't buy a drink. I did not have the money but it was fun experience. Any reasonable clubs that does not break my arm and leg?
This club is not in your price range. Inflation has taken off in the last 9 months. The current entry is 400 Argentinian Pesos, which gets you one drink. One chica drink is another 400 AP. For 1 drink you can take her out for a couple of hours. Chicas are routinely asking 300 US dollars, some will accept 800 AP, some 1000, some will hold out. Dancers are about double the price. The local telo, I. E. Short-time motel up the street, starts at around 200 AP for a room. Inflation is still out of control so expect prices to increase again soon. Bottom line, Madahos is more fun if you are willing to spend 2000 AP / 350 US dollars and up for an evening. You also never know if you will get mechanical service or amazing GFE. Good eye candy more or less guaranteed, but the rest is an expensive gamble. The payoff is finding the girl who comes to the club once a week, is gorgeous and a performer, and gives you her number for extended dates later. It happens, but not every time.Thanks for posting the latest pricing PP!
Member #4112
06-30-12, 13:14
Use Thomaso's tactic of going in meeting them, getting their phone number and calling them before they go to work. You could take them to dinner and pay full fare for the service and come out way cheaper than pulling them out of the club.
You can get 800 after about 2:30 or if you know them. Most ask 1000 or 1200 beliving this is $300 US, thank god for faulty math since it's over 4. 5 to 1 at the ATMs and the Black Market is about 5. 5 to 1 and up. Someone said Zoom was giving 6 to 1
Ditto! Your prices are accurate. I entered for about 200 pesos. Lots of girls talked to me. 3 even kissed my lips and talked to me. They can't talk for more than 5 mins if you don't buy a drink. I did not have the money but it was fun experience. Any reasonable clubs that does not break my arm and leg?Hey Rishi, glad to hear you had fun. Was there a good sized crowd in the place? Some members have written good things about Hook which is around Suipacha and Paraguay.
RishiYahoo
06-30-12, 13:37
It was decent crowd. I stayed until 3 am and few girls started to leave. It makes sense to see what is there. But it is too expenive. At what time Hook opens?
Is there a place to see girls in clubs during afternoon and evening? At what time most clubs open?
TejanoLibre
06-30-12, 16:55
It was decent crowd. I stayed until 3 am and few girls started to leave. It makes sense to see what is there. But it is too expenive. At what time Hook opens?
Is there a place to see girls in clubs during afternoon and evening? At what time most clubs open?The girls have to be at the club by MIDNIGHT or they get in trouble and have to stay until 5am unless they are taken out.
If they arrive at 10 or 11 then they can leave at 4 if nothing is going on.
So the best time to go to ANY club is around 12:45 or 1am.
I think all of them open around 10:00 but read the statement above again.
Afternoon clubs. Never heard of one, but wait; yes there are 3 or 4 in Micro Center.
A decent looking girl will gladly lead you into the club and you will be instantly presented with 2 girls and 3 drinks for about $1000. 00 pesos before you can blink your eyes!
Then "Big Ugly" shows up with a baseball bat in his hand!
Now, tell me what the cover charge is at Madahos please.
I'm confused. Is it $200. 00 or $400. 00?
I predicted that it would reach $1000. 00 pesos and the girls will keep getting more expensive!
Send me a PM if you'd like and I will show you the way!
TL
P. S. For now the best deals are Hook and Cattos with Hook having the youngest and darkest and thinest girls.
If you can find Rocio at Catto's you will be amazed! Absolutely beautiful! 5ft. 10in. Tall, White, dark hair, perfect legs and ass!
Worksout every day.
I will try to get some pictures of her.
I know they are on Facebook somewhere.
Some pictures with 6 girls all around me but Facebook deleted my account because I had pictures of the Live Sex Show we did at my restaurant.
WT69 and Evasonline took the pictures and the video.
That was a blast!
RishiYahoo
06-30-12, 17:42
Cover charge was 200 peso only. Not sure if this is regular rate or just yesterday. I paid only 200 pesos with one drink. I miss evening and daytime clubs. Nobody at cafe orleans now.
There were about 15 girls yesterday. May be it is too early for now.
US has so many day time and evening action which are fun so I can go and dance at night.
The girls have to be at the club by MIDNIGHT or they get in trouble and have to stay until 5am unless they are taken out.
If they arrive at 10 or 11 then they can leave at 4 if nothing is going on.
So the best time to go to ANY club is around 12:45 or 1am.
I think all of them open around 10:00 but read the statement above again.
Afternoon clubs. Never heard of one, but wait; yes there are 3 or 4 in Micro Center.
A decent looking girl will gladly lead you into the club and you will be instantly presented with 2 girls and 3 drinks for about $1000. 00 pesos before you can blink your eyes!
Then "Big Ugly" shows up with a baseball bat in his hand!
Now, tell me what the cover charge is at Madahos please.
I'm confused. Is it $200. 00 or $400. 00?
I predicted that it would reach $1000. 00 pesos and the girls will keep getting more expensive!
Send me a PM if you'd like and I will show you the way!
TL
P. S. For now the best deals are Hook and Cattos with Hook having the youngest and darkest and thinest girls.
If you can find Rocio at Catto's you will be amazed! Absolutely beautiful! 5ft. 10in. Tall, White, dark hair, perfect legs and ass!
Worksout every day.
I will try to get some pictures of her.
I know they are on Facebook somewhere.
Some pictures with 6 girls all around me but Facebook deleted my account because I had pictures of the Live Sex Show we did at my restaurant.
WT69 and Evasonline took the pictures and the video.
That was a blast!
SnakeOilSales
07-22-12, 05:22
Stopped in tonight after New Port. 200 peso entrance which included the standard drink. Maybe ten customers and fifteen girls in the entire place.
Rubiks Cube
08-11-12, 17:09
2 years ago you walk in madahos at 130 on a Friday night and you felt like you were in a great club. Stopped by last night and was very disappointed. I'm a regular so no cover but still hit with over 200 pesos for drink at bar. From bar I could see entire club as there weren't many people. Hardly any talent. Still had some nice looking dancers but regular girl drinks are 400 pesos so can't imagine how much a dancer drink is now.
Daddy Rulz
08-11-12, 20:15
2 years ago you walk in madahos at 130 on a Friday night and you felt like you were in a great club. Stopped by last night and was very disappointed. I'm a regular so no cover but still hit with over 200 pesos for drink at bar. From bar I could see entire club as there weren't many people. Hardly any talent. Still had some nice looking dancers but regular girl drinks are 400 pesos so can't imagine how much a dancer drink is now.Are those drink prices expressed in Mexican Pesos or perhaps Gurani? 400 fucking pesos for a drink!
Member #3320
08-11-12, 21:18
I have decided.
I am not going to Black, Madahos, Hippo for rest of my life.
Daddy Rulz
08-11-12, 21:59
I have decided.
I am not going to Black, Madahos, Hippo for rest of my life.I NEVER tell people how to spend their money. It's theirs and not mine. I just kept thinking that those prices are more expensive than titty bars in the states. I realize that you can get laid at Black and Madahos unlike most titty bars in the land of fat women, I just refuse to get fucked before I get laid.
Are those drink prices expressed in Mexican Pesos or perhaps Gurani? 400 fucking pesos for a drink!As P. T. Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute" and it seems there are loads of them spending money in these places.
I NEVER tell people how to spend their money. It's theirs and not mine. I just kept thinking that those prices are more expensive than titty bars in the states. I realize that you can get laid at Black and Madahos unlike most titty bars in the land of fat women, I just refuse to get fucked before I get laid.I just refuse to get fucked before I get laid.
DR that is my new favorite line. That is how I was describing Blacks to a friend yesterday.
Wild Walleye
08-12-12, 15:24
I haven't been in Madaho's for nearly two years. From my experiences there, it is best for eye candy and getting phone numbers for pre-work sessions. The chicas that show up before midnight, must not be very good about giving out their numbers. Many of the other chicas are getting their grooves on 10pm to Midnight and keeping 100% of the fare.
I have to admit that like Black, the first time I walked into this place ('07), I felt like I was in heaven. Wall-to-wall babes. Back then, it was hard to find a dog in the bunch. I've ordered take-out from this place more than once but, was never really impressed, once we got past the beautiful face and banging body. That said, if I was entertaining guys from out of town (especially if they are from sex-prison), I'd bring them by to show them the hot babes.
Someone please correct me, if I am wrong with my following analysis. I think it is pretty standard to get in without the cover but, I go with a friend who knows everybody, so I am not sure how widespread the practice is (of waving the cover). If you do pay the cover of AR$200, I think that covers the first drink. If you don't pay the cover, your first drink is AR$200, so either way, you're AR$200 deep as soon as you start sipping your first drink, correct? I haven't arrived at M's prior to midnight, so it wasn't like I was going there to get bombed (i.e. I warmed up somewhere else). However, a couple hours of viewing the scenery is going to require more than one drink. So let's say I am in for three drinks (AR$600) and I spot a chica that I would like to take out (chica drink AR$400). We go to my hotel for an hour of mediocre sexo (AR$800) and she tells me how much she wants to see me again and that I should come to the club tomorrow night to do it all over again. So, AR$2,000 for three hours (2 looking at chicas and 1 'knowing' a chica). If I am using xoom (getting AR$5.9/US$1, net of all fees), I am looking at US$339 (US$444 if using the official exchange rate), for that privileged. I can spend an hour with 8-10s in NY, Miami, Dallas, etc, for US$300-$400 (and be virtually assured of a toe-curling experience).
That said, a bargain is not my first priority. I have had the good fortune to know a few M-quality chicas who will do TLN for AR$600-700 (US$119-156). So, from my perspective, I'm game for a few drinks at M's, look at all the babes and then head home to meet up with a sure thing. I like the chase, I like trying to work out what I want/need in my pigeon-Spanish. I must admit, that on occasion, I like the "unknown" and I am a big boy and I accept the risks that come with it. If I blindly call the number with a beautiful pic on the internet and a beastly hag shows up at my door, I won't be surprised.
Don't get me wrong. If I am in M's, and don't have a sure thing lined up for later, I am just as susceptible to the little head taking over as is anyone else. If it is good (even if it isn't), I do my best to get her number (I have only ever had privado girls refuse to give me a number) and see what comes of it. If it isn't good, I chalk it up to experience and try to have the big head do more of the decision making (yeah, right up until the next gorgeous chica walks in front of me and wiggles her ass). Just file the expenses under R&D.
Usually stay in on Sunday's but went out since it isn't raining and got to madahos about 12:30am.
Pretty dead and low eye candy even by slow Sunday standards. I usually pull the no cover and pay same thing at bar but they insisted I pay first. Wasn't worth arguing but I suppose that was a hint the lineup was going to be bad.
Maybe dozen girls I saw at first, couple more filling in later but only stayed about half hour. Saw instantly it was just one of those dog pound nights. Not a fast booze drinker so sat and chatted with 3-4 chicas while finishing my drink and left.
Couple observations:
1. Perhaps because of the slowness, the season, less tourists, solar flare yesterday. Who knows. The chicas chatted with me quite a bit before walking off despite my clear no, not buying them a drink tonight answer. Told them didn't really like the vibe tonight and was just finishing my drink before leaving.
2. Didn't see anything over a 7 and sadly there were a number of hefty cows. Not huge per we, just more gut and thunder thighs than expected at madahos. A blonde Brazilian, Nubia (sp?) was quite aggressive. Kept pushing her fun bags on me to touch. Said if I touched them I'd change my mind and take her out, was pretty clear she thought they were her prime money maker. Told her technically if I touched them she'd owe ME money as a consult but she didn't get the joke.
3. It's a Sunday, living here or just visiting since 2005, I've never known any particular Sunday line up to be representative of the club overall. But this seemed to be a new low. Still going to check them out on weekday and thur especially, see what the normal crew baseline is now from what I remember last time
Member #4112
08-13-12, 10:36
Back in 2003 or 2004 when I first dropped by Madahos it was the 2nd best club after Black IMHO in Recoleta. Entry was reasonable as were drink prices and if you negotiated with the chicas their prices were reasonable as well and below what the chicas at Black commanded at the time. I don't pay entry here but since I drink scotch the first drink with a generous tip to my favorite bartender usually equals the same amount. Since I don't go to get blasted in these clubs a scotch on rocks will last a while with the bartender dropping in more ice as needed, never hurts to cultivate the bartenders and I always pick a girl to buddy up to. I have pulled more than a few from here over the years and have several favorites I can call as with those I know from Black. Usually get to Madaho about 1AM and if I am interested in a chica will usually wait till 2:30 to 3:00 before getting serious since they are getting more desperate to hook up. I don't try to take one that has already gone out and come back, usually they are not hungry enough to drop the price. Just the way I operate here if I find one I am interested in. Again I have been going there so long getting numbers is never a problem and Vicky, one of my old amigas, always provides the best recommendations, never got a dud from her.
Found a new one during my stay in June, since it was my last night in town I dropped the cash for the drink to pull her after getting a recommendation from Vicky. She will be on my 'to do' list on my next trip, very feisty, fun and no clock watcher. We left the club at a bit after 3:00 and she was only going to stay for 2 hours but did not leave till 10:00 AM that morning. Left her number and was asking when she could come by again, had to tell her I would call when I got back in town.
LukeSkywalker
08-19-12, 17:46
I have not been back to Argentina for a few years, mainly due to the long flight. Black and Madaho did have some sweet-looking, young latinas.
However, looks like club prices in Bs As are way crazy, especially with their poor economy and high unemployment. At current rate of 4. 5 ARS per US$, 200 ARS cover charge is $45 just to get in. 400 ARS for a chica drink is about $85 each. 1000 ARS for ST is US$222. Looks like it would cost minimum US$350 for a fuck in Madaho? This is ridiculously expensive. What kinds of people have money to spend like that, except perhaps the drug lords?
In comparison, Tijuana, Mexico has a about a dozen clubs within 1 block of the Zona Tolerancia, right next to the US border. Hong Kong in the past 3 years have attracted some of the most beautiful latinas working. Most weekend nights there are about 60-80 chicas working per shift. I would find at least 20 that look good enough to spend money for a few drinks and take to the hotel for a fuck. Some HK girls have model-quality looks and most are very friendly and sexy. They would dance on stages, on top of bars or just cruising around the bar. $1 tip would let you get up very close and personal, potentially with your face in their nice, tight, sexy crotches, sniffing, kissing, licking etc. .
Prices in HK club are as follows: 50 MXN cover including the first drink (at current rate 12. 5 MXN per US$, that's US$4). Chicas' drinks are 100MXN or US$8. To fuck the chicas, they usually go for US$60 or 700MXN plus US$15 or 180MXN for the hotel room next door. Total to fuck a chica with model-quality looks in HK Club is about 1030MXN or US$82. 4. Just look at the attached pics.
On the streets outside the clubs, there are usually 50-60 street girls, some as good or even better-looking as club girls, for US$20-30 short time 20 minute sessions with US$5-6 hotels.
Did have many good times with nice, young, good-looking girls in Envidia club in Flores, even though most were older and beefier. I would never go back to BsAs to pay prices at Black and Madaho since I am not in the narco traficking business. I am planning for a trip to Medillin, Colombia, where there are plenty of young, good-looking, sexy girls for US$10 a pop. Who needs the expensive pussies in Argentina?
I thought Argentinians are known to be frugal and very good at providing high-value goods and excellent services for the lowest, most competitive prices.
There must be other places in Argentina where you can find nice, sweet, good-looking young girls for US$20 short time. Or you all should pack and move to Mexico. I do feel we are lucky and thoroughly spoiled here in Tijuana.
Just make sure the chicas in Tijuana never learn about the extremely ridiculous pricings gouged by their sisters in Argentina hehe.
Are those drink prices expressed in Mexican Pesos or perhaps Gurani? 400 fucking pesos for a drink!
I have not been back to Argentina for a few years, mainly due to the long flight. Black and Madaho did have some sweet-looking, young latinas.
However, looks like club prices in Bs As are way crazy, especially with their poor economy and high unemployment. At current rate of 4. 5 ARS per US$.200 ARS cover charge is $45 just to get in. 400 ARS for a chica drink is about $85 each. 1000 ARS for ST is US$222. Looks like it would cost minimum US$350 for a fuck in Madaho? This is ridiculously expensive. What kinds of people have money to spend like that, except perhaps the drug lords?
In comparison, Tijuana, Mexico has a about a dozen clubs within 1 block of the Zona Tolerancia, right next to the US border. Hong Kong in the past 3 years have attracted some of the most beautiful latinas working. Most weekend nights there are about 60-80 chicas working per shift. I would find at least 20 that look good enough to spend money for a few drinks and take to the hotel for a fuck. Some HK girls have model-quality looks and most are very friendly and sexy. They would dance on stages, on top of bars or just cruising around the bar. $1 tip would let you get up very close and personal, potentially with your face in their nice, tight, sexy crotches, sniffing, kissing, licking etc. .
Prices in HK club are as follows: 50 MXN cover including the first drink (at current rate 12. 5 MXN per US$, that's US$4). Chicas' drinks are 100MXN or US$8. To fuck the chicas, they usually go for US$60 or 700MXN plus US$15 or 180MXN for the hotel room next door. Total to fuck a chica with model-quality looks in HK Club is about 1030MXN or US$82. 4. Just look at the attached pics.
On the streets outside the clubs, there are usually 50-60 street girls, some as good or even better-looking as club girls, for US$20-30 short time 20 minute sessions with US$5-6 hotels.
Did have many good times with nice, young, good-looking girls in Envidia club in Flores, even though most were older and beefier. I would never go back to BsAs to pay prices at Black and Madaho since I am not in the narco traficking business. I am planning for a trip to Medillin, Colombia, where there are plenty of young, good-looking, sexy girls for US$10 a pop. Who needs the expensive pussies in Argentina?
I thought Argentinians are known to be frugal and very good at providing high-value goods and excellent services for the lowest, most competitive prices.
There must be other places in Argentina where you can find nice, sweet, good-looking young girls for US$20 short time. Or you all should pack and move to Mexico. I do feel we are lucky and thoroughly spoiled here in Tijuana.
Just make sure the chicas in Tijuana never learn about the extremely ridiculous pricings gouged by their sisters in Argentina hehe.Tijuana is a good bargain place. Haven't been since I was in the Marines 45 years ago and boy it was cheaper then. I still remember a chick who could smoke a cigarette with her snatch. Regarding Madaho's, like I mentioned before, in my last 4 or 5 visits I never even visited......... Why bother?
Silver Star
08-19-12, 21:24
I have not been back to Argentina for a few years, mainly due to the long flight. Black and Madaho did have some sweet-looking, young latinas.
However, looks like club prices in Bs As are way crazy, especially with their poor economy and high unemployment. At current rate of 4. 5 ARS per US$.200 ARS cover charge is $45 just to get in. 400 ARS for a chica drink is about $85 each. 1000 ARS for ST is US$222. Looks like it would cost minimum US$350 for a fuck in Madaho? This is ridiculously expensive. What kinds of people have money to spend like that, except perhaps the drug lords?
In comparison, Tijuana, Mexico has a about a dozen clubs within 1 block of the Zona Tolerancia, right next to the US border. Hong Kong in the past 3 years have attracted some of the most beautiful latinas working. Most weekend nights there are about 60-80 chicas working per shift. I would find at least 20 that look good enough to spend money for a few drinks and take to the hotel for a fuck. Some HK girls have model-quality looks and most are very friendly and sexy. They would dance on stages, on top of bars or just cruising around the bar. $1 tip would let you get up very close and personal, potentially with your face in their nice, tight, sexy crotches, sniffing, kissing, licking etc. .
Prices in HK club are as follows: 50 MXN cover including the first drink (at current rate 12. 5 MXN per US$, that's US$4). Chicas' drinks are 100MXN or US$8. To fuck the chicas, they usually go for US$60 or 700MXN plus US$15 or 180MXN for the hotel room next door. Total to fuck a chica with model-quality looks in HK Club is about 1030MXN or US$82. 4. Just look at the attached pics.
On the streets outside the clubs, there are usually 50-60 street girls, some as good or even better-looking as club girls, for US$20-30 short time 20 minute sessions with US$5-6 hotels.
Did have many good times with nice, young, good-looking girls in Envidia club in Flores, even though most were older and beefier. I would never go back to BsAs to pay prices at Black and Madaho since I am not in the narco traficking business. I am planning for a trip to Medillin, Colombia, where there are plenty of young, good-looking, sexy girls for US$10 a pop. Who needs the expensive pussies in Argentina?
I thought Argentinians are known to be frugal and very good at providing high-value goods and excellent services for the lowest, most competitive prices.
There must be other places in Argentina where you can find nice, sweet, good-looking young girls for US$20 short time. Or you all should pack and move to Mexico. I do feel we are lucky and thoroughly spoiled here in Tijuana.
Just make sure the chicas in Tijuana never learn about the extremely ridiculous pricings gouged by their sisters in Argentina hehe.Just keep in mind there are ways to get much better than 4. 50 per USD in the parallel market, making Buenos Aires more competitive.
Looks like it would cost minimum US$350 for a fuck in Madaho? This is ridiculously expensive. What kinds of people have money to spend like that, except perhaps the drug lords?I assure you I am not a drug lord. Totally ok with people who don't want, can't, or just prefer not to pay these prices. But lots of non-drug lords pay these rates just fine.
Daddy Rulz
08-20-12, 00:25
I assure you I am not a drug lord. Totally ok with people who don't want, can't, or just prefer not to pay these prices. But lots of non-drug lords pay these rates just fine.Shit drug lords wish they had your money.
TejanoLibre
08-20-12, 04:33
Shit drug lords wish they had your money.Well, I AM a LORD but the chicas are very average and super agressive so I won't go unless it's one of TL's Boliche Tours!
Mostly locals with cash.
And yes, there are a lot of them.
Stick to the Indies Boys!
Save your money and have a better session!
TL
P.S - No longer a LORD ! But we can talk about it !
Just keep in mind there are ways to get much better than 4. 50 per USD in the parallel market, making Buenos Aires more competitive.The fact is Buenos Aires is no longer competitive. When you figure in the cost of air fare, travel time, visa fees, hotel rates. If I was coming in from the states or Europe I would definitely be looking at other options. Yes, any one with a ounce of intelligence can get 6 to one or better, plus there is this forum and others to help out. But if you look at the WHOLE picture I would rather do Columbia or Brazil. Even Ecuador or Peru! Yes the city is wonderful, yes there are some great women here, but it is no the best place in the world by far.
The fact is Buenos Aires is no longer competitive. When you figure in the cost of air fare, travel time, visa fees, hotel rates. If I was coming in from the states or Europe I would definitely be looking at other options. Yes, any one with a ounce of intelligence can get 6 to one or better, plus there is this forum and others to help out. But if you look at the WHOLE picture I would rather do Columbia or Brazil. Even Ecuador or Peru! Yes the city is wonderful, yes there are some great women here, but it is no the best place in the world by far.I'd say valid reasoning, and to each their own. In your case sounds like chica price is the primary criteria for destination.
For others, it depends perhaps what criteria and priority each has to debate "best" monger destination. 'Monger-value' doesn't have to depend only on the pure price per service of the chicas. Price may be a criteria, but perhaps prioritized #2 or #3 compared to say going out to nice dinners, or ambience of city life outside of mongering, etc.
Just my criteria alone but I enjoy Buenos Aires because it has a balance of decent latin-euro feel to the city, enough upscale nightlife, dinners, etc that balances stays of long duration relative to comforts of home, certainly the blending of mixed races "look" to beautiful argentine women, a nice selection of luxury apartments to rent comparable to decent european countries, and of course decent price scale relative to other comparable destinations in the world.
If price was the sole and only factor, with no other considerations including safety, I suppose even Columbia or Brazil would be far too expensive in favor of say Nigeria. Obviously, given zero to few members of this board frequenting Nigeria, we've all come to Bs. As for reasons that does not purely depend on the competitive price of chicas only
I'd say valid reasoning, and to each their own. In your case sounds like chica price is the primary criteria for destination.
For others, it depends perhaps what criteria and priority each has to debate "best" monger destination. 'Monger-value' doesn't have to depend only on the pure price per service of the chicas. Price may be a criteria, but perhaps prioritized #2 or #3 compared to say going out to nice dinners, or ambience of city life outside of mongering, etc.
Just my criteria alone but I enjoy Buenos Aires because it has a balance of decent latin-euro feel to the city, enough upscale nightlife, dinners, etc that balances stays of long duration relative to comforts of home, certainly the blending of mixed races "look" to beautiful argentine women, a nice selection of luxury apartments to rent comparable to decent european countries, and of course decent price scale relative to other comparable destinations in the world.
If price was the sole and only factor, with no other considerations including safety, I suppose even Columbia or Brazil would be far too expensive in favor of say Nigeria. Obviously, given zero to few members of this board frequenting Nigeria, we've all come to Bs. As for reasons that does not purely depend on the competitive price of chicas onlyI agree with all you said. My point was to all the people who come just to "monger". If you need to come here or if you are here as a tourist and the mongering is a pleasant bonus, then yes it is a nice vacation destination. But for a just a "mongering" destination from any country up "north" it seems there are many places closer, more convenient and cheaper. Just as a by and by, public safety here is falling by the way side very rapidly. The public transportation is a joke, a dangerous joke. Another train accident yesterday, thats at least 6 just in the past year! For such a small country thats quite a few.
LukeSkywalker
08-20-12, 15:45
Was in Tijuana last night with a bro, hanging out mostly in Hong Kong club. The pics shows only average girls. There are many much hotter chicas in HK who would not give out their pics.
In comparison, the women who hang out at Cafe Exceterra or New Orleans would be too old, ugly, overweight that I would not bother looking at much less taking to the bed. Did pull a Paraguyan girl from Cafe New Orleans a few years back. She was dark, ugly, skanky with lots of scars on her skin, coupled with an angry, nasty attitude. Would never waste time in that cafe.
Last night did 2 young, good-looking TJ street girls, with perfect hard bodies and smooth skin, for US$25 each, in between hanging out in HK flirting and groping the young, sexy, good-looking club chicas.
Total cost for the night, including 2 girls, hotels, drinks, food and tips, gas from Los Angeles, parking, taxis etc... less than US$120.
Isn't life good?
Tijuana is a good bargain place. Haven't been since I was in the Marines 45 years ago and boy it was cheaper then. I still remember a chick who could smoke a cigarette with her snatch. Regarding Madaho's, like I mentioned before, in my last 4 or 5 visits I never even visited. Why bother?
The fact is Buenos Aires is no longer competitive. When you figure in the cost of air fare, travel time, visa fees, hotel rates. If I was coming in from the states or Europe I would definitely be looking at other options. Yes, any one with a ounce of intelligence can get 6 to one or better, plus there is this forum and others to help out. But if you look at the WHOLE picture I would rather do Columbia or Brazil. Even Ecuador or Peru! Yes the city is wonderful, yes there are some great women here, but it is no the best place in the world by far.Gandolf50, I am curious why you mentioned Columbia, Ecuador and Peru? The another forum forum on Columbia only has a few recent postings, and the Ecuador and Peru forum are dead. I am considering a late in the year trip to either Medllin Columbia, Ecuador or Costa Rica. Medellin and Ecuador are destinations that I am considering for future residency and a Costa Rica trip would be for adventure activities. Mongering would be a small part of any trip, but you have piqued my curiosity about mongering in those countries.
Gandolf50, I am curious why you mentioned Columbia, Ecuador and Peru? The another forum forum on Columbia only has a few recent postings, and the Ecuador and Peru forum are dead. I am considering a late in the year trip to either Medllin Columbia, Ecuador or Costa Rica. Medellin and Ecuador are destinations that I am considering for future residency and a Costa Rica trip would be for adventure activities. Mongering would be a small part of any trip, but you have piqued my curiosity about mongering in those countries.OK, My job used to take me to many countries. I speak enough spanish to get by. In Columbia and Venezuela I don't think I ever had to pay, not that it didn't cost me, but I did not have to pay by the hour so to speak. Hot women, great sex, and since I wasnt paying, no clock watching. Costa Rica is loaded with nice women who while they need money are not greedy, at least in my experience. In Peru and Ecuador it seems I always paid, but peanuts. In most cases the girls were not pros in the sense that they were out looking for clients every night, only on recommendation or if you happened to meet them in their normal job. I guess it all depends what you are looking for and how much time you have and what you are willing to pay. I live in Argentina, but I did not come here for the women. For the most part I find them very greedy, selfish and for the most part not overly attractive. I know many people will disagree with me but thats my point of view. I read about guys on this forum spending well over $1000U$D for a night out and for average sex for a hour or two. People with more money then brains. Or maybe just desperate after so much time in "sex prison". I have a ama de cama (a live in) plus two neighbors on call, plus a fourth girl who I see once a week and I don't spend a thousand US for the four of them for the entire month! And three of the four are hot!
I remember flying round trip LAX / EZE for under $500. Now? I am not sure, but I have heard 1500 or more. I remember door to door travel used to be around 20 hours. (my house in the US to my house in BsAs) It just seems its too far, too much money, and for the most part too expensive. Plus on the average, the women in Columbia, Venezuela, and Mexico (for example) are much nicer!
Gandolf50, I am curious why you mentioned Columbia, Ecuador and Peru? The another forum forum on Columbia only has a few recent postings, and the Ecuador and Peru forum are dead. I am considering a late in the year trip to either Medllin Columbia, Ecuador or Costa Rica. Medellin and Ecuador are destinations that I am considering for future residency and a Costa Rica trip would be for adventure activities. Mongering would be a small part of any trip, but you have piqued my curiosity about mongering in those countries.Good points here. Equador is a sleeper as is Peru but Lima is huge. In Quito you will need the first day to get used to the elevation. Spanish needed or you will get last weeks leftovers. Medellin IMHO is now an over priced haven for english speaking mongers, all mongers stay together, me thinkest Cartagena is better since it is seasonally repopulated with new college hotties, 18-21 non pros who want to have a good time. Costa Rica is great but EVERYONE there goes to the same 3-4 places where everyone speaks English and where everyone does the same chicas. I just saw on the CR forum where the guys are still talking about the superstar from 2008 who is still going strong plus 20 pounds. I would rather have something fresher. I like BA because it is spread out, new/varied adventures always available, all price points available, all ages available, European flair, good food. Get that Spanish CD my friends...........
Costa Rica...Convenience
Equador...They don't have a clue. No GFE but good.
Cartagena....youngest .....with a beach
Medellin...Prettiest
BA....everything!
TejanoLibre
08-20-12, 19:58
Was in Tijuana last night with a bro, hanging out mostly in Hong Kong club. The pics shows only average girls. There are many much hotter chicas in HK who would not give out their pics.
In comparison, the women who hang out at Cafe Exceterra or New Orleans would be too old, ugly, overweight that I would not bother looking at much less taking to the bed. Did pull a Paraguyan girl from Cafe New Orleans a few years back. She was dark, ugly, skanky with lots of scars on her skin, coupled with an angry, nasty attitude. Would never waste time in that cafe.
Last night did 2 young, good-looking Tijuana street girls, with perfect hard bodies and smooth skin, for US$25 each, in between hanging out in HK flirting and groping the young, sexy, good-looking club chicas.
Total cost for the night, including 2 girls, hotels, drinks, food and tips, gas from Los Angeles, parking, taxis etc. Less than US$120.
Isn't life good?I grew up in Houston, Tx and every time we had a long weekend we would zip down to Boy's Town Laredo, Mexico and it was exactly as you describe Tijuana.
$25. 00 girls, $4. 00 drinks, Donkey Shows, and a filty fucking country full of drug addicts and girls that look like Aztecs!
I would arrive in Boy' Town around 9pm and immediately start slamming drinks and chicas!
Usually fucked 8 girls per night, well it was really 7 because I would do 1 twice.
When I arrived and when I left. Usually around 7:30am!
Some where 3-ways and 1 was a 4-way, that's a lot of work though!
But I had to be super drunk and it had to be night time.
It's a horrible place during the day and so are most of the girls!
Depressing!
Now with the drug related killings and the US Border Patrol, Homeland Assholes it's just not much fun anymore!
I'd wake up and go to the friendly doctor's office where he would give me a ten years supply of goodies and jump in the car and go home.
Gas, hotel, drinks and 8 girls about $400. 00 dollars and most of that was on drinks I think!
Yes, it was fun.
Now you have to dodge bullits and police bribes.
And AIDS!
Very prevalent in Mexico, down here just the Trannies have it!
Something that you won't catch at Madahos or Orleans!
No needles allowed in my world!
Question :
If the Paraguayan Jungle Bunny was SOOOOO Fucking Ugly why did you fuck her?
You with such good taste in women, I'm shocked!
Mexico is truly 3rd world, some of the girls are spectacular but the White, Italian Argies, not likely to fuck for money can be very, very attractive and will help you produce attractive little bastards!
There is a good reason that BA is the "Paris of the South!"
TL.
I do miss Boy's Town! And the "extra" $5k a week from my doctor's visits!
Every Wednesday! It's a 3. 45 hour drive from Houston in a really fast car!
Made 5 trips a month on a good month, get there at 1pm and be back at home by 5pm.
Exciting at times, too much so!
I speak enough spanish to get by.Haven't you been living in the provincias for like ten years? And you just speak enough to get by? WTF is up with that?
Haven't you been living in the provincias for like ten years? And you just speak enough to get by? WTF is up with that? I'm a slow learner, besides I think I speak better then half of my neighbors! I know I can read better then them!
I agree with all you said. My point was to all the people who come just to "monger". If you need to come here or if you are here as a tourist and the mongering is a pleasant bonus, then yes it is a nice vacation destination. But for a just a "mongering" destination from any country up "north" it seems there are many places closer, more convenient and cheaper. Just as a by and by, public safety here is falling by the way side very rapidly. The public transportation is a joke, a dangerous joke. Another train accident yesterday, thats at least 6 just in the past year! For such a small country thats quite a few.The puss in BA is cheap like borscht. Unless you are taking the 500+ chicas. 300-500 peso chicas are less than 100 USD! Cartagena chicas are 200k+ pesos, brasileiras 200+ reals unless you go to some of the local privados, thai - 1500+ baht when you go off of beach Road and soi 6, more if you hit Walking Street.
The current trip to the Canadian west coast from BA cost me just under 1400usd and I know airfare to-from Brasil is close to that price.
All that BA needs is a good beach! LOL.
I'm a slow learner, besides I think I speak better then half of my neighbors! I know I can read better then them!But not write better. Three errors in two sentences.
LukeSkywalker
08-21-12, 00:48
Must feel good to do 8 girls a night.
I go more for quality than quantity. What's the point of fucking 8 dead fish? If I find a girl who looks pretty and healthy and who can express her passion in sexy ways, I would rather do the same girls 8 times a night.
I started going to Tijuana about 2000. There were 3 main clubs that were popular, Hong Kong, Adelitas and Chicago. These clubs were popular because most of the girls have the sweet, gentle, light-skinned Spanish looks. The other smaller bars did have more brown-skinned Aztecs girls or mixed. But with the right curves, some do look sexy in their own ways. Not all Aztecs girls are short and chubby.
Since 2008, Hong Kong Club expanded and remodeled into a first-class strip club. It manages to recruit good-looking young girls from all over Mexico to come to work. Some HK girls look as good, or even better, than international super models or Hollywood movie stars. There are always a dozen girls stripping or doing lesbian sex on stage at various times every night. Sure beats watching the Tango or Samba shows down South hehe.
Unlike other cities in Mexico, Tijuana is unique that the best-looking girls from all over Mexico are recruited to those bars, where they can make good money quickly. You should look at Tijuana's picture gallery to have a feel. I am of the opinion that, recently it's easier and more convenient to find young, good-looking girls in Tijuana than in both Argentina and Brazil, much cheaper too.
I took the Paraguyan girl from Cafe Orleans because there was nothing younger, skinnier or better looking that afternoon from any bar or cafe. I also pulled a girl from Hook one night. It was so dark in Hook that she turned out much older, like late 40's, and uglier in the street light. I also regretted pulling her. Did pull one very beautiful girl in a club downtown Montevideo, Uruguay, nice, slim, pretty slinky girl. Her pussy smelled like a dead fish. It killed the romance. i fucked her then got rid of her quickly. I hate foul-smelling girls.
Now a day you will be shocked by a large population of Mexican girls in Tijuana with nice, clean, sexy, innocent Spanish looks, light skin, slim, slinky model figures. Think of Tijuana as the Madrid of the new world.
Been going to Tijuana every week, sometimes 2 to 3 times a week. Have not gotten my ass shot off by narcos yet. It feels clean and pretty safe in the crowded and well-lighted Zona Roja with tons of policia on patrol day and night. Think of them as your personal bodyguards. I have not been shaken down for cervezas money for at least 4 years.
The government has cleaned up the police force a lot. You can tell they are very professional now, modeled after LAPD's SS storm troopers.
$25. 00 girls, $4. 00 drinks, Donkey Shows, and a filty fucking country full of drug addicts and girls that look like Aztecs!
I would arrive in Boy' Town around 9pm and immediately start slamming drinks and chicas!
Usually fucked 8 girls per night, well it was really 7 because I would do 1 twice.
When I arrived and when I left. Usually around 7:30am!
Some where 3-ways and 1 was a 4-way, that's a lot of work though!
But I had to be super drunk and it had to be night time.
It's a horrible place during the day and so are most of the girls!
Depressing!
Now with the drug related killings and the US Border Patrol, Homeland Assholes it's just not much fun anymore!
Now you have to dodge bullits and police bribes.
And AIDS!
Very prevalent in Mexico, down here just the Trannies have it!
If the Paraguayan Jungle Bunny was SOOOOO Fucking Ugly why did you fuck her?
You with such good taste in women, I'm shocked!
Mexico is truly 3rd world, some of the girls are spectacular but the White, Italian Argies, not likely to fuck for money can be very, very attractive and will help you produce attractive little bastards!
There is a good reason that BA is the "Paris of the South!"
TL.
I do miss Boy's Town! And the "extra" $5k a week from my doctor's visits!
Exciting at times, too much so!
LukeSkywalker
08-21-12, 03:31
45 years is a very long time. There have been a lot of changes in Tijuana. You probably would not recognize the place anymore.
3, 4 years ago, mayor Jorge Hanks decided to clean up the streets around La Zona Rojas, got rid of these messy and smelly trash bins at every corner, repaved and landscaped the streets, new sidewalks, better drainage, better lighting and lots of security cameras everywhere. La Zona is very nice, clean, smelling good now.
The mayor was trying to force the street chicas to get off the streets and show their "inventories" inside hotels' lobbies, but was met with massive demonstrations with hundreds of chicas. The street girls went back to leaning against hotels' walls as in Mexico's finest traditions.
Hong Kong club expanded and remodeled and went on a national recruitment program, promising the girls $80 fuck sessions, lots of $8 ficha drinks which the girls get half, providing cheap housing in its hotel. Some of the most beautiful girls in Mexico headed to Tijuana for work, stripping, hooking. In any given night, you should be able to find girls of any size, shape, skin / hair color to fancy any taste. The girls also rotate among the big cities, Tijuana, Acapulco, Monterrey, Cancun, Cabo San Lucas etc. Making the selection very good.
Tijuana girls are nice, young, sweet, sexy, good-looking. I don't have to go anywhere else in the world.
Tijuana is a good bargain place. Haven't been since I was in the Marines 45 years ago and boy it was cheaper then. I still remember a chick who could smoke a cigarette with her snatch. Regarding Madaho's, like I mentioned before, in my last 4 or 5 visits I never even visited. Why bother?
But not write better. Three errors in two sentences.I know, we are not all as good as you!
AllIWantIsLove
08-21-12, 20:33
But not write better. Three errors in two sentences.I get the two instances of "then" instead of "than". But I can't find a third error.
Thanks, Bob
The first comma should be a semi-colon because there are independent clauses on both sides.
LukeSkywalker
08-21-12, 22:46
Is this Dickhead some sort of middle school teacher?
I wish he pays as much attention to the wet and tight pussies down South as he does someone else's grammar. Picking on grammar and pretty soon the sexy posts will dry up!
A good part of the population of US of A are now either illiterate or can only speak, not write, ghetto English, but we don't let that bother us, do we?
Looks like the less literate our population, the higher probability of winning wars everywhere we go.
The first comma should be a semi-colon because there are independent clauses on both sides.
TejanoLibre
08-21-12, 22:55
45 years is a very long time. There have been a lot of changes in Tijuana. You probably would not recognize the place anymore.
3, 4 years ago, mayor Jorge Hanks decided to clean up the streets around La Zona Rojas, got rid of these messy and smelly trash bins at every corner, repaved and landscaped the streets, new sidewalks, better drainage, better lighting and lots of security cameras everywhere. La Zona is very nice, clean, smelling good now.
The mayor was trying to force the street chicas to get off the streets and show their "inventories" inside hotels' lobbies, but was met with massive demonstrations with hundreds of chicas. The street girls went back to leaning against hotels' walls as in Mexico's finest traditions.
Hong Kong club expanded and remodeled and went on a national recruitment program, promising the girls $80 fuck sessions, lots of $8 ficha drinks which the girls get half, providing cheap housing in its hotel. Some of the most beautiful girls in Mexico headed to Tijuana for work, stripping, hooking. In any given night, you should be able to find girls of any size, shape, skin / hair color to fancy any taste. The girls also rotate among the big cities, Tijuana, Acapulco, Monterrey, Cancun, Cabo San Lucas etc. Making the selection very good.
Tijuana girls are nice, young, sweet, sexy, good-looking. I don't have to go anywhere else in the world.Thanks!
Sounds great!
I use to collect the different "Fichas" from the clubs but I lost them when I moved!
I'd be glad to meet you there some day but that's as far north as I can go!
TL.
P. S. Still have to dodge bullits!
The first comma should be a semi-colon because there are independent clauses on both sides.Thank you sir. I will try to do better in the future!
AllIWantIsLove
08-23-12, 01:27
... Looks like the less literate our population, the higher probability of winning wars everywhere we go.Really? Iraq, Afghanistan? You have an interesting definition of "winning". (No doubt that we have a really strong military. But I haven't seen much winning recently.)
Bob
Gato Hunter
08-23-12, 01:46
It's been well posted I was well known in Madahos, last three times I have been in there zero guys maybe 15 girls. Looks like they went too far on the pricing. Last visit was a few days. Before I left a Few weeks ago, I got in for free went looked around and took a piss, and made a gracefully exit. This was the Friday before I left I think. At 1 am primetime.
Would be curious for more data points.
The whole pussy market has low demand right now, its like weed the price never goes down!
Maybe enhanced due to weather. Rain and cold. But about what I see.
Been in 3x since arriving couple weeks ago. One rainy Sunday was absolute crap. Dog house, few chicas and guys. Just scouted and left.
Second time on weekday last week around 12:30am. Pretty decent. 3/4 full tank of girls. So not the fullest I've seem but reasonable pool of chicas. Some really nice, some pretty nice, lot in the do-able middle but nothing special, some dogs I would have never seen in there 2008. These are looks ratings only.
Left with a chica after 3-4 scouting chats and couple drinks. Usual $300 USD just to see gringo reaction ask before getting into the more serious ask, mostly opening in the 1000-1200 peso range.
Last Sunday no rain and decent weather other than just being bs. As winter cold. Maybe 40% of the full house stable of chicas I'd expect on a thur night. Mix of pretty decent to really bad (looks wise). Didn't take anyone out, just scouted and chatted a bit.
Not sure if from weekday action the pussy market is low demand. There was reasonable amount of guys leaving with chicas - didn't seem like desperate conditions of you're a Madahos girl
I've always found Madahos to be a nice sure thing place when wanting to try some new girls with minimal effort or off night / break from usual regulars / sugar babes.
But for sure with their current prices, not for everyone.
It's been well posted I was well known in Madahos, last three times I have been in there zero guys maybe 15 girls. Looks like they went too far on the pricing. Last visit was a few days. Before I left a Few weeks ago, I got in for free went looked around and took a piss, and made a gracefully exit. This was the Friday before I left I think. At 1 am primetime.
Would be curious for more data points.
The whole pussy market has low demand right now, its like weed the price never goes down!
Left with a chica after 3-4 scouting chats and couple drinks. Usual $300 USD just to see gringo reaction ask before getting into the more serious ask, mostly opening in the 1000-1200 peso range.Anyone have any recent pics of the chicas asking these prices? If you don't want to post them can you pm them or I can give you my email addy. I am interested to see what makes them so special. Of the 33 pics currently in the Madahos thread there was 2-3 that were in the 9-10 scale range (imo).
ThugStar84
09-07-12, 13:57
I went to Madahos yesterday instead of Black. Have to say there were a decent number of guys there, but more girls.
I think the place really gets started closer to 1am. I got there at 11. 45. Left with girl around 1. 15.
* 200 P to get in (includes 1 drink). Local brand drinks only. Extra 10p if you want Jack Daniels for example.
* 400 P for a chica drink!
* Some fine ass bunnies quoted 2000 Pesos initially, then came down to 1500 p. Wouldn't go down further. So I skipped them. But they had a great ass and titz.
I ended up taking out a cute smaller peruvian girl (my hotel) that spoke a bit of english. For about an hour, she quoted 1100 (basically everything I had) + cab ride. I had the condoms already. So overall, I paid 1100 p (girl) + 80 p (cab, both ways, normally 25p on meter each way) , + 200 p (entry fee) + 400 p (1 Chica drink) = 1780 p! Or about 350 USD.
She was nice and all. But we limited it to safe sex. BJ with condom, standard fucking, no DFK. Even her titz, she resisted sucking, but let me do it. Ate some pussy, not much. She was ok with me cumin on her titz.
Overall, probably overpaid, but I was sort of expecting that. She did let me take a couple of pics of her with clothes on. And gave mer her cell phone so we can do this when she is not working at madams. She said something about the girls having to get at least 3 chica drinks since that is how Madahos makes their money. She let with me after her first drink. Wasn't rushing me too much though.
Member #3320
09-07-12, 14:10
She did let me take a couple of pics of her with clothes on.Damn! No BBBJ! No dfk! 350 us$! Not worth it.
Can you post pics? Or send by private message?
Daddy Rulz
09-07-12, 14:13
Damn! No BBBJ! No dfk! 350 us$! Not worth it.
Can you post pics? Or send by private message?I wonder if that was one of his conditions for the deal. I told him on the Black thread to hit every point and then not pay until the deal was done. He might not have had the language for it though. Good first report though.
Wild Walleye
09-07-12, 14:38
I went to Madahos yesterday instead of Black. Have to say there were a decent number of guys there, but more girls.
I think the place really gets started closer to 1am. I got there at 11. 45. Left with girl around 1. 15.
* 200 P to get in (includes 1 drink). Local brand drinks only. Extra 10p if you want Jack Daniels for example.
* 400 P for a chica drink!
* Some fine ass bunnies quoted 2000 Pesos initially, then came down to 1500 p. Wouldn't go down further. So I skipped them. But they had a great ass and titz.
I ended up taking out a cute smaller peruvian girl (my hotel) that spoke a bit of english. For about an hour, she quoted 1100 (basically everything I had) + cab ride. I had the condoms already. So overall, I paid 1100 p (girl) + 80 p (cab, both ways, normally 25p on meter each way) , + 200 p (entry fee) + 400 p (1 Chica drink) = 1780 p! Or about 350 USD.
She was nice and all. But we limited it to safe sex. BJ with condom, standard fucking, no DFK. Even her titz, she resisted sucking, but let me do it. Ate some pussy, not much. She was ok with me cumin on her titz.
Overall, probably overpaid, but I was sort of expecting that. She did let me take a couple of pics of her with clothes on. And gave mer her cell phone so we can do this when she is not working at madams. She said something about the girls having to get at least 3 chica drinks since that is how Madahos makes their money. She let with me after her first drink. Wasn't rushing me too much though.Put another notch on your belt, you survived Madaho's. The important thing is that you had a good time. With more experience in the local market, you'll get more proficient at getting exactly what you want at a price with which you are happy.
If you wanted to see her again (I'm not sure why you would, given the report) , you have her number. What you would do, in this case, is to have her come to your hotel before she goes to work at Madaho's (no chica drinks, no other excuses for up-sell). However, you have two things working against you: 1) I don't get the impression that she is worth another round and 2) she will always try to get at least AR$1, 100 out of you for a short session (I. E. It doesn't tend to get better, price-wise, from the terms of the original deal.
Keep up the good work and enjoy.
ThugStar84
09-07-12, 17:53
Yes, the condom BJ / DFK was mostly by choice. Wish there were no STDs to worry about, but I am being cautious. I did have a BBBJ in Termas Centaurus in Rio, but am trying to play it safe. I would like to try it again as long as it is low risk. The last privado I tried (esmerelda 517) , the girl stank down there and was a turn off.
Tonight is going to be my last night in BA. Flying out tomorrow evening. Any recommendations for tonight and tomorrow AM? Redo Madahos? Black or New Port? Any Privados that stand out as clean and fun? How about escort sites? I would like a place I can take pix of the girl. Naked preferably!
I can splurge up to 600 USD for both days included.
Thanks for the tips thus far. You guys are a great resource!
I'll post the pic of the Madaho girl in a couple of days.
Yes, the condom BJ / DFK was mostly by choice. Wish there were no STDs to worry about, but I am being cautious. I did have a BBBJ in Termas Centaurus in Rio, but am trying to play it safe. I would like to try it again as long as it is low risk. The last privado I tried (esmerelda 517) , the girl stank down there and was a turn off.
Tonight is going to be my last night in BA. Flying out tomorrow evening. Any recommendations for tonight and tomorrow AM? Redo Madahos? Black or New Port? Any Privados that stand out as clean and fun? How about escort sites? I would like a place I can take pix of the girl. Naked preferably!
I can splurge up to 600 USD for both days included.
Thanks for the tips thus far. You guys are a great resource!
I'll post the pic of the Madaho girl in a couple of days.Except for coming to the dinner later, getting the inside baseball and go out with us you mean?
ThugStar84
09-16-12, 02:21
So I decided to check out New Port for the heck of it. I went there on a Friday@11pm. That seems too early by BA standards. The place was just opening up. Only 1 other guy and 6-7 women. All washed up. Most smoking. Which is a turn off. Saw one Colombian that looked kinda cute and thick, but had bad teeth. I had one beer for 55 pesos. Sat around until I finished it. All the girls were mostly looking at me, they didn't approach. Only 1 came up and talked. She spoke engligh and probably recognized I was not a local. I winked at the Colombian and she walked over to talk. She was cute, but for the teeth.
Decided to bail out and just head to Madahos. I liked Madahos a lot better. More like a US strip club, except the girls are there for the taking! Awesome concept!
This time, I took one out that I had talked to the previous night. Local Argentinian hottie that spoke some english. Amazing ass (not big, but wow). Check out the pics. She was good, let me take some pics. However, would not repeat as she was a bit lame in bed.
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LukeSkywalker
09-21-12, 23:12
I have seen some young, very sweet-looking girls at Madaho. But the recent pics just show orinary-looking girls.
With the very high prices of the drinks and take outs, Madaho should have glammy-looking super stars.
Argentinian girls are beautiful. There have to be better deals somewhere else.
I have seen some young, very sweet-looking girls at Madaho. But the recent pics just show orinary-looking girls.
With the very high prices of the drinks and take outs, Madaho should have glammy-looking super stars.
Argentinian girls are beautiful. There have to be better deals somewhere else.I have not and never will go there or the other places at the prices they charge. You can get a FL from BairesGirls or SI for the same amount people are spending at these places and are only at the "talking to the chica" phase.
If people stopped patronizing said places it wouldn't be long before changes happened or doors closed. And don't worry about the chicas disappearing, they would turn up at privados, or BG, or SI, and probably cost less. Look at what happened when Centaurus and L'uomo were closed in Rio. The chicas went to other places and mongers were more than happy to pay them 250 instead of 500.
With the very high prices of the drinks and take outs, Madaho should have glammy-looking super stars.I agree, at current prices Madahos should have near model-quality chicas. I will be checking the selection before long, and my standards will be high here.
Argentina model Cynthia Fernandez is the kind of caliber they should have. Actually, there is an independent chica with a body just as hot as Cynthia Fernandez, who works for 600 pesos / hour.
SnakeOilSales
09-22-12, 00:34
FYI, Madahos was shut down by the GCBA last night and has large white "Clausurado" seals all along the outside of the building. The prosecutor's office of the GCBA has been on a tear in Recoleta recently shutting down bars and nightclubs, prostitution related and not.
FYI, Madahos was shut down by the GCBA last night and has large white "Clausurado" seals all along the outside of the building. The prosecutor's office of the GCBA has been on a tear in Recoleta recently shutting down bars and nightclubs, prostitution related and not.Some of the Madahos chicas have moved over to Plays.
FYI, Madahos was shut down by the GCBA last night and has large white "Clausurado" seals all along the outside of the building. The prosecutor's office of the GCBA has been on a tear in Recoleta recently shutting down bars and nightclubs, prostitution related and not.Thanks for the update SoS.
LukeSkywalker
09-22-12, 16:01
Looks like Madaho's owners fail to make enough money to pay off the right people this time.
The guys at Orleans are now the king of BA's stinky pussies market hehehe.
FYI, Madahos was shut down by the GCBA last night and has large white "Clausurado" seals all along the outside of the building. The prosecutor's office of the GCBA has been on a tear in Recoleta recently shutting down bars and nightclubs, prostitution related and not.
Member #3320
09-22-12, 16:41
I hope and pray Madahos and Black close down for ever.
And all these chicas go to Newport, Hook and the privados and be available for the right prices.
Fingers crossed.
LukeSkywalker
09-24-12, 13:36
Closing or not closing, If you wait long enough, those high-class, high-priced, haughty Madaho's girls will eventually transform into old, smelly, skanky, cheap street walkers. .
I hope and pray Madahos and Black close down for ever.
And all these chicas go to Newport, Hook and the privados and be available for the right prices.
Fingers crossed.
Gato Hunter
09-27-12, 00:25
Thanks or the reporting!
I smelled deth spiral and talked to steanger about this there was nobody in the place when we went in. The number of places going away is faster than new ones. If hookery was out lawed in BA I would still go get pussy in a disco.
Thanks or the reporting!
I smelled deth spiral and talked to steanger about this there was nobody in the place when we went in. The number of places going away is faster than new ones. If hookery was out lawed in BA I would still go get pussy in a disco.Politely differing here. I go into Madahos quite a bit compared to most on this board and other than nights you'd expect to be bit dead. Sundays, rainy weekdays, etc. Place is fairly well occupied by both local and visiting men plus decent pack of chicas. There are some odd nights here and three where the traffic is unusually low, but over consistent basis I don't see Madahos business traffic being dead.
Only real change I've seen since regularly rotating through Madahos since 2005 is overall quality pool of the chicas has gone down. Still decent pool on tue-thu nights especially but for sure quality down over the years. Doesn't seemed to have affected customer traffic other than usual dead night and seasonal patterns
LukeSkywalker
09-27-12, 04:29
Quality goes down and prices go up?
Why does BA's pussy market behave like life in the former Soviet Union?
I do think mongers are being fucked by someone other than Madaho's girls.
TejanoLibre
09-27-12, 04:54
Quality goes down and prices go up?
Why does BA's pussy market behave like life in the former Soviet Union?
I do think mongers are being fucked by someone other than Madaho's girls.I don't mind being fucked as long as I'm being kissed at the same time!
My Motto!
TL
I guess the prices keep us riff-raff out LOL!
I guess the prices keep us riff-raff out LOL!After 8 visits to BA I can say they are VERY overpriced and over rated.
LukeSkywalker
09-28-12, 13:17
Recent pics show Madaho's girls only ordinary-looking. Madaho's girls are way over rated and over priced. For those prices, they should look like the glamorous and sexy super models or movie stars. Madaho was just insulting its clients with its ridiculous prices for drinks and girls. I hope Bs As' pussy salesmen learn from their mortal mistakes of trying to inflate the pussy market.
In fact, many porn stars are available in the Southern California, the porn capital of the world, for the so-called "Porn-Star Experience," I. E. Sex with young girls with lots of ooohhhs and aaaahhhs, for about $200 an hour.
Southern California is within 1 hour drive from Tijuana, Mexico's largest border town, where allegedly the best-looking girls from all over Mexico come to work in strip clubs and in the narrow alleys of the red light district. The main area is now nice, clean, sanitary with lots of patrolling cops and security cameras recording. So it's pretty safe to hang out.
Some of these girls do have the sexy and glamorous looks of the international super models and movie stars. The clubs open just about 24 hour a day. The girls are available for sex, some juicier than others, between US$20 for street girls and anywhere $40 to $100 for club girls depending how badly they need money.
Will be visiting Tijuana red light district with a bro from AP tonight. He will be delighted to find many girls with glamorous super model looks at fractions of Madaho's prices.
Member #3320
09-28-12, 14:16
Will be visiting Tijuana red light district with a bro from AP tonight. He will be delighted to find many girls with glamorous super model looks at fractions of Madaho's prices.One of the best places to monger in Mexico is "Tampico".8 or 9s for 75$ for a couple of hours.
Daddy Rulz
09-28-12, 19:07
Luke you obviously know Mexico well and Tijuana is not NL but there are some pretty scary posts coming out of the USA guide from Texas. Play safely my brother.
LukeSkywalker
09-28-12, 19:37
Never been to Tampico. Looked it up in the map and it's the Northernmost point of Veracruz, adjoining Texas.
I screw of lot of cute young girls from Veracruz. That area exports oil and lots of hos. Hehehe. There were 2 sisters, Daisy and her half sister. 18 YO with a pretty face and perfectly sexy body, a super model in fact. They were unbelievably hot and sexy. They were screwing left and right in the alleys of Tijuana RLD for $20 a pop, saved up money in 1 year and went home to buy and operate a sports gym. Daisy went back to school for a degree in Computer Science. I miss her a lot.
The guys who live in Texas and Arizona go to border towns. They all told me quality of girls are very low and they charge $120- 200 for ST. That's way too much.
Tijuana seems to attract a lot of the best-looking Mexican girls to work in strip clubs.
One of the best places to monger in Mexico is "Tampico".8 or 9s for 75$ for a couple of hours.
Never been to Tampico. Looked it up in the map and it's the Northernmost point of Veracruz, adjoining Texas.
I screw of lot of cute young girls from Veracruz. That area exports oil and lots of hos. Hehehe. There were 2 sisters, Daisy and her half sister. 18 YO with a pretty face and perfectly sexy body, a super model in fact. They were unbelieveably hot and secy. They were screwing left and right in the alleys of Tijuana RLD for $20 a pop. They saved up money in 1 year and went home to buy and operate a sports gym. Daisy went back to school for a degree in Computer Science. I miss her a lot.
The guys who live in Texas and Arizona go to border towns. They all told me quality of girls are very low and they charge $120- 200 for ST. That's way too much.
Tijuana seems to attract a lot of the best-looking Mexican girls to work in strip clubs.As a hard core monger, I can say I stay away from the place. Last visit I was offered free admittance including a drink and I passed. I think the same guys who go here hang around Orleans in the day. I'd rather do the not too smart 19 yo's in the privados.
LukeSkywalker
09-28-12, 19:43
Hi Daddy Ruiz,
I read in the news lots of mass murders among drugs traffickers and kidnaps of illegal immigrants by the cartels in that area to control the transportation of drugs and humans into the US.
They also repeatedly shot up a few monger bars and torched casinos etc. It's not worth hanging out in those towns for a few pieces of pussies.
These murders are grisly, rampant and all too frequent. I am very disappointed in the lack of morals and human instincts in these savaged drug traffickers.
Thanks for your concerns. Wish you lots of sexy times with the sweet chicas in BS AS.
Luke you obviously know Mexico well and Tijuana is not NL but there are some pretty scary posts coming out of the USA guide from Texas. Play safely my brother.
LukeSkywalker
09-28-12, 20:53
In the past 4 years, there have been dozen shootings of monger bars in the Northern states, in Monterrey and Cuidad Juarez. Some guys just showed up at these bars and hosed it down with their AK47's. Pictures showed men and young girls lying dead on the bars' floors awashed with pools of blood.
I never heard any groups claiming credit or motivations for these shootings. It may well be that cartels' narcos, or even neighborhood gangs, just got pissed off at each other for petty things, and decide to do some shootings.
I met a young stripper from Monterrey. She's one of the most beautiful girls I have seen anywhere with her classic Spanish looks, one of the sweetest, nicest girls I ever met. She does have the glamorous looks of movie stars. She came to Tijuana to strip and hook in the club for some quick money. She was so poor, did not have a mobile phone, giving me her home phone. I called a few times trying to arrange for her to return to Tijuana to "work." Her family lives in a tiny shanty in a slum in Monterrey. I could hear children playing and women talking in the background. It's heart wrenching to know such a beautiful girl having to endure dire poverty and the extreme violence by the gangs. There are lots of very good-looking girls in Monterrey.
These stealing, robbing, kidnapping, torturing, murdering cartels guys are not humans, more like stupid beasts. They are the shame of Mexico. News reporters have interviewed and confirmed average young guys in Mexico would take on side jobs, kidnapping and murdering people for $20-50 a pop. They would do these crimes just to supplement their incomes from their menial jobs. That's how bad it is - a complete moral and legal break down of a society.
You should be very thankful these horrible abuses against other fellow human beings are not happening in your own country. .
As a hard core monger, I can say I stay away from the place. Last visit I was offered free admittance including a drink and I passed. I think the same guys who go here hang around Orleans in the day. I'd rather do the not too smart 19 yo's in the privados.
SimpleWrangler
09-29-12, 16:19
Been to Madaho and it's not operating. Someone with insight information about the re-opening?
Thanks!
Been to Madaho and it's not operating. Someone with insight information about the re-opening?
Thanks!May swing by tonight to look but when I walked by couple hours ago having lunch near there, the closed tape that was put up when police shut it down is no longer there and just the usual daytime shutter gate down. I assumed that meant back open but ill wall by later tonight to check
Been to Madaho and it's not operating. Someone with insight information about the re-opening?
Thanks!Read on a local foro it was closed for some renos, has re-opened and are having an anniversary party on 9 Oct.
SimpleWrangler
09-30-12, 12:17
Read on a local foro it was closed for some renos, has re-opened and are having an anniversary party on 9 Oct.Thanks for the info. I hope the rates not to over-inflate again at madaho's
Went by last night. Madahos is open again. Same price as before. 200p entry / 2 drinks
Went by last night. Madahos is open again. Same price as before. 200p entry / 2 drinksThat's only $16 and change per drink, not too bad I guess. Too bad each chica a person wants to talk to will cost a $400p drink, $65 and change.
LukeSkywalker
09-30-12, 23:45
Googled and found GCBA stands for Gobierno de la Ciudad de Buenos Aires (Buenos Aires, Argentina) which is like Bs As city government.
Perhaps the city's Fire and Health departments found Madaho's pay offs not hot and healthy enough? Hehehe. .
Madaho can try to aim at the high-paying clients, but I have seen very few clients and most girls not bought drinks or taken out for fucks all night. It does look like the lack of business has driven away the best-looking girls, only the average still hang in there.
They should experiment and model different pricing and services strategies to find win-win combinations that will bring in the most profit while maintaining the highest class for the bar and the girls at the same time bringing the best services and satisfaction for the johns.
This could be an interesting PhD thesis for the Graduate School of Pussy Marketing, Universidad d' Argentine en Buenos Aires.
Perhaps Jackson, with his extensive experiences knocking heads with hard-core mongers, can serve as the thesis advisor. All good-looking female PhD candidates must submit to oral, manual and sexual thesis examinations by nominated AP members, which I am the first volunteer. . . hehehe.
FYI, Madahos was shut down by the GCBA last night and has large white "Clausurado" seals all along the outside of the building. The prosecutor's office of the GCBA has been on a tear in Recoleta recently shutting down bars and nightclubs, prostitution related and not.
Madaho can try to aim at the high-paying clients, but I have seen very few clients and most girls not bought drinks or taken out for fucks all night. It does look like the lack of business has driven away the best-looking girls, only the average still hang in there.Not really sure where I rank but will go out on a limb and say since 2005 as well as current trip since early aug I believe I'm one of the AP boards more frequent visitors to Madahos.
I disagree with this statement as simple observation of the trend. For your specific one or few visits, it may very well have been slow. But if you go enough to average out the outlier nights, my xp as a consistent multiple times a week visitor is that:
A) other than known dead nights, Sundays, holidays like recent last Monday, rainy nights, Madahos has on avg a pretty decent customer crowd and number of chicas.
B) I see on avg quite a few drinks being bought for girls, including bottle / bucket parties. That isn't to say dead nights don't happen where no one is buying much but it's nowhere near the norm in my xp.
C) I wouldn't say it's a constant stream, but there's on avg a decent rate of guys taking gals out. Oddly enough, my xp over many visits averaged out, seems like there's more native Spanish speakers - whether argentine or not my Spanish isn't good enough to tell - Vs non-Spanish speakers. Eg there's heck of a lot more well off locals and SA tourists taking gals out than yanks and other English speakers.
If you've gone many times as well to form this differing conclusion, then will just have to agree to disagree politely. 12-14 visits since early aug and I've only seen maybe 3-4 nights that I'd agree with your description, and two of those nights was rainy Sundays.
LukeSkywalker
10-01-12, 10:27
Your experience may be more recent and you may have stayed later into the night and saw more actions.
However, if compared to hooker bars in other countries, like Mexico, Thailand, the Philippines etc. . . hookers bars in Bs As like Madaho, Black, Hook, Catto, Orleans etc. . . would appear way too sedate. Their crowds are comparatively small.
Various bros recently posted about the high prices for guys' and girls' drinks at these bars. Looks like the same drinks cost about 10 times as much as non hooker bars. In Mexico, drinks in the most popular hooker bars cost about double others.
If the bars reduce the prices for covers, drinks and girls, they may attract much bigger crowds most nights. Hooker bars in other countries are jam packed most night most likely because their prices are kept at affordable levels for both domestic and foreign visitors.
However, hooker bars in Bs As may not have much room in reducing their prices. They may have to pay big bribes to government officials or big protection money to organized crimes to conduct business, and they are passing the high costs to customers. If this is true, then the costs of corruption is far worse in Argentina compared to other countries.
If you've gone many times as well to form this differing conclusion, then will just have to agree to disagree politely. 12-14 visits since early aug and I've only seen maybe 3-4 nights that I'd agree with your description, and two of those nights was rainy Sundays.
SimpleWrangler
10-01-12, 12:13
Your experience may be more recent and you may have stayed later into the night and saw more actions.
However, if compared to hooker bars in other countries, like Mexico, Thailand, the Philippines etc. Hookers bars in Bs As like Madaho, Black, Hook, Catto, Orleans etc. Would appear way too sedate. Their crowds are comparatively small.
Various bros recently posted about the high prices for guys' and girls' drinks at these bars. Looks like the same drinks cost about 10 times as much as non hooker bars. In Mexico, drinks in the most popular hooker bars cost about double others.
If the bars reduce the prices for covers, drinks and girls, they may attract much bigger crowds most nights. Hooker bars in other countries are jam packed most night most likely because their prices are kept at affordable levels for both domestic and foreign visitors.I think that simply works in a different way. Tijuana Mexican hookers are not comparable to Madaho's chicas.
Buenos Aires it's not tourist oriented as they do in Thailand, where most of the johns are not locals, so in Buenos Aires most of the clients are locals and only a few are tourist, and, a small percentage of the tourist crowd are non spanish / portuguese speakers.
Brazilians I guess they do only shopping tourism as they have way better looking and horny girls than in Argentina, thus, you don't see them at the hooker bars.
Other southern-american they behave as the local crowd either going to private apartments or calling girls for the hour. And, many American expats do the same as they learn from the locals. That left almost no room for nightlife entertainment including working girls and the major spots are restricted to the triangle, recoleta, belgrano and flores.
I agree the main negatives now are the fairly large increases to drink prices and general decline in chica pool quality that you get for that price.
Customer pool size doesn't seem much changed though from my overall time 2005 to now. Chica quality pool. That's definitely down.
Your experience may be more recent and you may have stayed later into the night and saw more actions.
However, if compared to hooker bars in other countries, like Mexico, Thailand, the Philippines etc. Hookers bars in Bs As like Madaho, Black, Hook, Catto, Orleans etc. Would appear way too sedate. Their crowds are comparatively small.
Various bros recently posted about the high prices for guys' and girls' drinks at these bars. Looks like the same drinks cost about 10 times as much as non hooker bars. In Mexico, drinks in the most popular hooker bars cost about double others.
If the bars reduce the prices for covers, drinks and girls, they may attract much bigger crowds most nights. Hooker bars in other countries are jam packed most night most likely because their prices are kept at affordable levels for both domestic and foreign visitors.
However, hooker bars in Bs As may not have much room in reducing their prices. They may have to pay big bribes to government officials or big protection money to organized crimes to conduct business, and they are passing the high costs to customers. If this is true, then the costs of corruption is far worse in Argentina compared to other countries.
If the bars reduce the prices for covers, drinks and girls, they may attract much bigger crowds most nights.Yes, but it's not the bribes that make these bars ignore the price elasticity of demand. They are just plain stupid. You see this all over Latin America, definitely including México. If you try to following their reasoning, it is completely lame and basically sounds something like, 'We have fewer customers so we need more money so that is why we raise prices. ' Once our pool cleaner told us he had lost a customer and so would have to increase what he charged us. Well, you lost the customer because you are an unreliable jack off. So now you have lost two. Gee, I guess you will have to raise your prices even MORE for your remaining customers.
Any place the Spaniards were, that is how people think.
LukeSkywalker
10-01-12, 16:06
At Tijuana's most popular hooker bars like Hong Kong, Adelita, Las Chevelas ect. . . dicks' cervezas are $4, girls' drinks are $8, not including tips.
Less popular bars with old, ugly and obese girls in Tijuana all have 2 for 1 prices, I. E. $4 for 2 cervezas.
Madaho's prices of $16 dick's drinks and $65 (or about US$100 per official exchange rate) per girls' drinks are just ridiculous.
Considering Argentina's PPP per capita GDP is only $17, 400, that means an Argentinian with average annual income can afford to buy the girls 174 drinks for the whole year at Madaho's prices, if he skips all other expenses like food and housing. .
That's only $16 and change per drink, not too bad I guess. Too bad each chica a person wants to talk to will cost a $400p drink, $65 and change.
LukeSkywalker
10-01-12, 16:31
Dickhead should not draw his conclusions of Argentinians' or Spaniards' lack of understanding of economic principles based on 1 instance of his pool boy. The guy most likely is a retard.
Based on Bs As' prices of food, housing, restaurants, shows, cafes, transportation, vacation packages etc. Argentinians' normal businesses are very competitive in prices and services. Witness $5 for a good sit down 3-course steak dinner with a glass of wine in various nice, clean, pleasant restaurants right on the busiest and presumably most expensive pedestrian Ave. Florida.
Shop keepers there told me their customers want everything good and very, very cheap. They do know how to run competitive businesses.
Not only at Madahos, but prices at all Bs As' hooker bars and cafes are abnormally high. I suspect there are large hidden costs involving running pussy-renting businesses, like extremely high bribes or protection money that all bars have to pay, and they just pass these high costs on to dicks. Looks like certain people, with lots of power and muscles, are skimming lots of cash off hooker bars and dictating to them how much to charge the horny dicks. .
I was hoping the connected bros may have better insights that can explain this ridiculous pricing structure.
Yes, but it's not the bribes that make these bars ignore the price elasticity of demand. They are just plain stupid. You see this all over Latin America, definitely including México. If you try to following their reasoning, it is completely lame and basically sounds something like, 'We have fewer customers so we need more money so that is why we raise prices. ' Once our pool cleaner told us he had lost a customer and so would have to increase what he charged us. Well, you lost the customer because you are an unreliable jack off. So now you have lost two. Gee, I guess you will have to raise your prices even MORE for your remaining customers.
Any place the Spaniards were, that is how people think.
Daddy Rulz
10-01-12, 18:01
When business is bad, raise prices! Another is to raise lease prices, chase tennants out, then brag about how much you charge (for your empty premises)!Yeah I'm with Sid and Andy (wasn't there a movie by that name?) I've seen it too many times across too many businesses. I think the reason There is so much delta between triangle and recoleta is the dominance game between Black and Madaho. Both are trying to be the top spot so one raises their prices and then the other out raises. If the lose business neither owners would be able to say, whups my bad guess I over priced, because that would be admitting a mistake which is nearly impossible here. I once saw a chica lose a 1200 P todo la noche at NP because she tried to hustle a drink from the monger under the guise of "you have to buy one its a house rule." When he balked she wouldn't budge and went home dry rather than admit wrong doing. She lost 1200P over a 45 P hustle. It's really kind of bizarre. Though no doubt coyma has a role.
Where are you getting a 3 course steak dinner on Florida for 30P? All the ones I see are more like 70-80, which is still a great price, don't get me wrong. But even the cat food at the Chinese tenedor libres are 55 no drink included. Not saying you're wrong, just want to know where.
LukeSkywalker
10-01-12, 20:36
How can you broadly conclude that Tijuana hookers are not comparable to Madaho's girls? What criteria are you comparing? Your info may be outdated.
Given tastes of beauty vary widely, but using the typical looks of the top super models who can make serious money modeling their pretty faces and their sexy bodies, presently lots of girls in Tijuana clubs may well be compared favorably over their Madaho sistas in looks, sexiness, youthfulness, healthiness and the fun / glamour factors. And there are 50, 60 of those young, good-looking Mexican girls hanging out every night in just 1 club.
I just took a AP bro for a nightlife tour of Tijuana bars and clubs. The bro has the same taste for girls as mine, I. E. Young, petite, pretty, skinny, long legs, natural boobs. He was very impressed by the good looks of many girls dancing in their skimpy bikinis or stripping in the Hong Kong club. He was watching them intensely;his eyes were bulging. We were having fun stuffing propinas into tight, sexy, fragrant crotches all night.. . . Hehehe.
Within 2 minutes inside the club, the bro decided the $8 ficha drink, where a sexy young girl straddles the guy, shoving her big boobs in his face for however long it takes her to drink, was a very good sexy deal. He grabbed a chica, took her to a dark booth and bought her a drink. She pulled his dick out of his pants and gave him a BJ on the spot. 15 minutes later he was in a hurry to take her upstairs for a fuck for 700 pesos or about $60. He thought she was a very good deal, but to me she was only average-looking. I usually hang around and wait for the top talents to show up later in the night.
After his first session, the bro and I was drinking beers in the middle of the club when another young, average-looking girl with long, straight, shiny hair, was rubbing her hard, sexy body with round perky boobs against both of us. The bro said he wanted to go upstairs with this girl again, but she refused to fuck, only selling $11 lap dances in the privados. He did say this was the best bar in the world, and he could hang around fucking those girls all night etc. . .
I would be hesitant to compare tastes in beauty, but it was a good comparison by a bro who recently visited both countries.
When I was in Madaho 3 years ago, around midnight I found only 6 to 8 girls in the club, only 1 young, fresh, good-looking that I was interested in. She was wearing a long dress so I really could not tell what her body look or feel like. The rest of the girls were just ordinary looking. Recent pics of Madaho girls showed even more ordinary-looking ones.
On weekend nights, there could be anywhere between 50 to 60 girls and 100 to 150 dicks packed into 3 stories of this Hong Kong club in TJ, drinking, smoking, tipping strippers, buying fichas, flirting, grabbing girls, sniffing their tight, juicy crotches, taking them to hotel in a steady stream etc . . .
Me thinks Mexicans do know how to run a very sexy, attractive, fun and competitive business. . . Me thinks Mexicans may well be the most creative and competitive people in the pussy for rent business. Me thinks government corruption may be less severe in Mexico.
I think that simply works in a different way. Tijuana Mexican hookers are not comparable to Madaho's chicas.
Buenos Aires it's not tourist oriented as they do in Thailand, where most of the johns are not locals, so in Buenos Aires most of the clients are locals and only a few are tourist, and, a small percentage of the tourist crowd are non spanish / portuguese speakers.
Brazilians I guess they do only shopping tourism as they have way better looking and horny girls than in Argentina, thus, you don't see them at the hooker bars.
Other southern-american they behave as the local crowd either going to private apartments or calling girls for the hour. And, many American expats do the same as they learn from the locals. That left almost no room for nightlife entertainment including working girls and the major spots are restricted to the triangle, recoleta, belgrano and flores.
Dickhead should not draw his conclusions of Argentinians' or Spaniards' lack of understanding of economic principles based on 1 instance of his pool boy. The guy most likely is a retard.Okay, fair enough. Instead I will base it on eight years of living in four different Spanish-speaking countries on three continents, having been to every Spanish-speaking country in South America, every province in Argentina, and over half the states in México. I will also base it on having worked in two of those countries and on having a minor in economics. Or, if you prefer, I could base it on 40 years of experience mongering in Latin America and watching these economic idiocies over and over again. I have been going to Tijuana since before you could jerk off and I can assure when business slows down, they raise prices.
LukeSkywalker
10-01-12, 22:06
According to the CIA's fact book, when their super spies are not too busy inventing weapons of mass destruction in various countries, PPP stands for Pussy Purchasing Power.
Considering Argentina's PPP per capita GDP is only $17, 400, that means an Argentinian with average annual income can afford to buy the girls 174 drinks for the whole year at Madaho's prices, if he skips all other expenses like food and housing. .
SimpleWrangler
10-02-12, 00:13
Me thinks Mexicans do know how to run a very sexy, attractive, fun and competitive business. Me thinks Mexicans may well be the most creative and competitive people in the pussy for rent business. Me thinks government corruption may be less severe in Mexico.Hey it's ok. May be Mexico it's less corrupt than Argentina. It's a good theory, or, when business slows down, they raise prices. Bottom line is, Madaho's still open and it's pretty expensive.
TejanoLibre
10-02-12, 00:35
Hey it's ok. May be Mexico it's less corrupt than Argentina. It's a good theory, or, when business slows down, they raise prices. Bottom line is, Madaho's still open and it's pretty expensive.Impossible!
Mexico ranks third in corruption, right behind Paraguay and Nigeria!
The Mexican Hookers in Boy's Town can be very sexy, young and cheap but they are super uneducated, they come from tiny villages and you would never want to have a child with one if that happened.
In BA you can find a flawless, Italian. German. Spanish Princess, presentable to your mother, has an advanced education but just needs the money.
Maybe not in Madaho's but somewhere for sure.
I have fucked about 400 Mexican hookers so I know what I'm talking about.
Is Mexico better?
No way Jose! Dirty, filty, ultra dangerous, Gringo Hating people in the sex biz.
Try going to a Mexican bordello sober in the daytime.
It's horrible.
TL
In BA you can find a flawless, Italian. German. Spanish Princess, presentable to your mother, has an advanced education but just needs the money.TLYeah, right. You know anybody who's done that? As far as daytime sober Méxican bordellos, I like the 'esteticas' or barber shops in Guadalajara. Squeaky clean. Also if you have ever been to the central Méxican highlands, places like Morelia and San Luís Potosí have some decent bars for like happy hour, say starting at 5 PM. But all the wandering I did in México would get you killed right now. For all its flaws, Argentina is a lot safer.
Partly because they're such pussies.
Member #3320
10-02-12, 02:06
In BA you can find a flawless, Italian. German. Spanish Princess, presentable to your mother, has an advanced education but just needs the money.Where do we find such a beauty in BA, my dear? I am actively looking for a similar sugar babe for quite a few weeks. Searched all the privados, night clubs, streets, local newspapers,local internet classifieds, local universities...still searching!!
LukeSkywalker
10-02-12, 03:07
It has been a few years. Don't know if these places are still in business:
The $5 3-course steak and other dinners with wine was at La Casona Del Nonno on Florida. I had their steak offer. The steak was about 6 Oz., looked like New York steak, but was tender and flavorful, cooked to the just right doneness as ordered. I had similar $5 steak dinners at other steak houses on 9 de Julio. They gave you a choice of a glass of wine or a beer.
Argentina's cheap steaks actually tasted buttery and had lots of fatty aromas. The beef was probably of higher grade than those served in the best steak houses in the US, Morton and Ruth Chris etc. . . US steak houses usually serve 16-oz cuts, with salad, potato and home-baked bread, way too much for me. I usually have to take home about half.
A good-looking, young tout for the 90-cent hamburger and quarter-pie pizza on Florida. No, no. . . she was not on the menu. . . hehehe.
12. 9-Peso (about $3 presently) Italian dinners, including beverage and coffee, at Oye Pedro in a mall in Microcenter. Add 3. 5 pesos for dessert.
I know a lot of bros will be disappointed, but the pics are just food. There are no high-resolution pics of juicy and hairy genitalia here. . . Hehehe.
Where are you getting a 3 course steak dinner on Florida for 30P? All the ones I see are more like 70-80, which is still a great price, don't get me wrong. But even the cat food at the Chinese tenedor libres are 55 no drink included. Not saying you're wrong, just want to know where.
9 pesos is "about three dollars presently." OK. That tells us all we need to know.
Daddy Rulz
10-02-12, 11:17
9 pesos is "about three dollars presently." OK. That tells us all we need to know.Yeah Luke you're info is just a little dated is all. Those places still provide value in relationship to surrounding areas but you would be surprised by the increase (when measured in dollars) if you returned. I was gone from 2007-2011 going to school back in the states and I was pretty fucking shocked when I came back. Especially by how much Taxi's had gone up.
LukeSkywalker
10-02-12, 13:14
I did a quick conversion of 12. 9 pesos just to show how cheap meals were in Bs As. Don't nit pick:
12. 9 pesos at 4. 5/$ official rate would be $2. 86.
12. 9 pesos at 6. 2/$ black market rate would be $2. 08.
9 pesos is "about three dollars presently." OK. That tells us all we need to know.
LukeSkywalker
10-02-12, 14:11
In the early 2000's, when banks were having a huge liquidity crisis, a Spanish-speaking bro was living in an apartment around the corner of University of Buenos Aires. Lots of Argentinians were having money problems.
He had a dozen or so young, hungry female students who would drop in regularly for food. He would cook them hamburgers then fuck the daylight out of them in bed. The girls were literally hungry and knew they were screwing an old man for food. It happened. The old fart for sure would never cook for the equally-hungry male students.
If I were fortunate enough to be in the same situation, I would probably not feel good enough to take advantage of these young students. I am a soft touch. I would more likely feed these hungry students without making any demands on them, until I run out of money, then we can all starve to death together.
I have good reasons to always guard my feelings very carefully.
The official rate is bullshit and not worthy of discussion except to ensure you avoid getting it.
Peso inflation has averaged 20-25% per year for a number of years and the recent emergence of the blue rate only partially compensates for it. Restaurant inflation has been particularly bad and any time I get out of a decent place for under $AR75 for three courses and a beverage I figure I'm doing well. The days of $AR12. 9 are as long gone as dollar gas in the US.
I did a quick conversion of 12. 9 pesos just to show how cheap meals were in Bs As. Don't nit pick:
12. 9 pesos at 4. 5/$ official rate would be $2. 86.
12. 9 pesos at 6. 2/$ black market rate would be $2. 08.
Daddy Rulz
10-02-12, 16:57
I did a quick conversion of 12. 9 pesos just to show how cheap meals were in Bs As. Don't nit pick:
12. 9 pesos at 4. 5/$ official rate would be $2. 86.
12. 9 pesos at 6. 2/$ black market rate would be $2. 08.Not sure what 12. 9 pesos is supposed to mean. A cup of drip coffee at Starbucks is 15 pesos, and before you tell me that Starbucks doesn't count because it's Yankee and therefore more expensive, a cafe con leche at the Argentino place on the corner is 18 pesos. The only meal you are going to get for below 30P (U$S5. 00x6) is going to be a BigMac combo or a choripan or poncho and a coke. Please stop insisting it's otherwise, I'm writing these words from the AP House in microcentro. I wouldn't presume to tell you how things are currently in Tijuana because I'm not there. I am however here in BsAs and buying food everyday.
I see that Jackson's suck ass autocorrecting software, which needlessly adds spaces after periods and commas when they should not be there, caused me to read Luke's twelve point nine as merely nine. Have I mentioned lately how butt ignorant this fucking software is? Capitalizing after everything you bold or italicize? What the fuck? Fix it or junk it, jefe.
LukeSkywalker
10-02-12, 18:56
You may get your ass banned for insulting the Webmaster.
I see that Jackson's suck ass autocorrecting software, which needlessly adds spaces after periods and commas when they should not be there, caused me to read Luke's twelve point nine as merely nine. Have I mentioned lately how butt ignorant this fucking software is? Capitalizing after everything you bold or italicize? What the fuck? Fix it or junk it, jefe.
SimpleWrangler
10-02-12, 18:58
Simple and quick as we needed to do a quicky.
Fee 24 (12 each)
Malbec Latitud wine 68
Chorizo (sausage) 12
French Fries 25
Lomo 70
Chicken 45
Total 244
Discount -48
Total 196
USD 33
What was The discount For?
Member #2041
10-02-12, 20:25
Yeah, right. You know anybody who's done that? As far as daytime sober Méxican bordellos, I like the 'esteticas' or barber shops in Guadalajara. Squeaky clean. Also if you have ever been to the central Méxican highlands, places like Morelia and San Luís Potosí have some decent bars for like happy hour, say starting at 5 PM. But all the wandering I did in México would get you killed right now. For all its flaws, Argentina is a lot safer.
Partly because they're such pussies.This is true. In Argentina, corruption involves scams, rip-offs, and con-games, preferably of the sort where you don't realize you've been taken until the person who took you is out of your physical space. In Mexico, if you do something that interferes with the controlling desires of a drug cartel, they take you into a car and you are never seen again as a fully intact human, as they leave your body from the torso on down somewhere other than where they leave your head. Which they often prop up on a stake near the office of whatever police department or local politician is not fully on the cartel's payroll.
SimpleWrangler
10-02-12, 21:03
What was The discount For?20% discount when paying amex, they also offered champagne because another promotion.
AllIWantIsLove
10-03-12, 00:42
20% discount when paying amex, they also offered champagne because another promotion.Do you mean there was a discount for using an American Express credit card? Since AX charges the merchant a fee a disount surprises me. Or does amex mean something else?
Thanks, Bob
SimpleWrangler
10-03-12, 02:06
Yes. The Credit Card.
Not only restaurants, but shops, gas stations, etc they offer discounts (while not everyday) when paying with credit cards instead of cash, but what I like the most, the VIP room at the airport, since some times you can flirt outstanding girls and offer them to drink for free.
Yes. The Credit Card.
Not only restaurants, but shops, gas stations, etc they offer discounts (while not everyday) when paying with credit cards instead of cash, but what I like the most, the VIP room at the airport, since some times you can flirt outstanding girls and offer them to drink for free.Why not use Cambio cash and get a 30+% discount?
The casa de cambio rate isn't a discount. Cristina's imaginary rate is a surcharge.
The casa de cambio rate isn't a discount. Cristina's imaginary rate is a surcharge.Relative real money on credit card cambio wins
Gauntlet77
10-03-12, 17:46
Relative real money on credit card cambio wins"credit card cambio"
What? Where? How?
Thanks
"credit card cambio"
What? Where? How?
ThanksThat is cc v / s cambio. Except, cross the Rio, cc for US, backto BA then US to pesos via cambio
Well, that certainly clarifies things.
Daddy Rulz
10-03-12, 20:27
That is cc v / s cambio. Except, cross the Rio, cc for US, backto BA then US to pesos via cambioTake the boat to Carmelo, Colonia, or MV, use ones CC to get dollars, return and take dollars to cambio.
Member #4112
11-01-12, 06:03
Got to Madaho's about 00:30 after leaving Black, see post for Black, and the place was packed with more hombres and really great chicas than I have seen in some time. Unlike Black most of the chica's were in long dresses while some were in their normal 'working 'attire but no where near the number of halloween costumes I saw a Black earlier. The dancers dressed as either devils, angels or other type of Halloween costumes and were really into the Halloween spirt. Place was really jumping when I left at 2:00 with an old favorite. They had waiters serving small tid bits of food for free if you can believe it! I saw many chicas who have not been around in a while but showed up tonight. The Argies were pretty much at the larger tables near the stage with a bottle of champagne shared by 6 or 8 guys, go figure the cheap bustards Really a great party with a really great vib, as good as the termas in Rio on Halloween and my friend those folks know how to party, and something mongers should take in if they are in town on Halloween. Know I will return when I am in town next time. Only problem was I've done too many of the chica's here and ended up not meeting too many new girls just greating all my old past friends. I had an absolute blast. To my wingmen who failed to show up at either party, dudes you missed a great time and one hell of a show.
Went in bit after 3am yesterday, Saturday night.
200p entry drinks for non-premium beverages (soda, water, local beer)
Dozen chicas. Usual bell curve, couple really nice, near hot (8.5+ One hands down really hot all around (9) clump in middle decent, and couple house dogs.
Chatted couple chicas on the upper looks and body range by my tastes, and must be Argie logic desperation when season is slow because instead of getting discounted from norm by my xp (800 low, very few willing at this range, to 1200 as norm, and 1500+ for chicas on upper end of bell curve) both chicas I chatted opened with and would not budge from 2000 per hour, quasi long hour 90min. Zero interest in TLN sliding scale. Eg 4hr equals 8k for these chicas.
Offered hot blonde 2400 for 2 hours just for the hell of it and she said no, nothing less than 2000 * 2 = 4000.
She goes by Luciana, bright white body hugging cotton body suit outfit, and ironically same blonde spoke to briefly when came in here with a Stranger in Dec.
At the time her attention grabbing walkup line was notable for three reasons:
Walks right up to me, no chit chat and just grabs my crotch area and strokes, as she says in Spanish,"I do it all, swallow, everything" 3k pesos (which she clarifies is only one hour)
So on one hand she's come down to 2k for hour, but other hand will take zero and pass on for sure 2400 rather than lower rates for multi hour deal.
In advance of the Madahos bashers, let me clearly say this is not the usual norm in my xp. 800,1000-1200, and 1500 are the norms based on quality tiers, time of night, end of month, etc.
But there's clearly even on a slow January, the Argie logic of make zero rather than somehow "lose" whatever they think is the delta between your offer and their imaginary line.
Rubiks Cube
01-21-13, 17:09
Sundays in summer usually slow but last night had about 25 chicas working and the best vibe of any of the clubs. Spoke to a few girls ended up leaving with one for 1500 pesos. Sure I could have done a few hundred better but agreed to 2 hours and all the services I want. Biggest negative is they have the fewest new girls of any of the clubs.
In advance of the Madahos bashers, let me clearly say this is not the usual norm in my xp. 800, 1000-1200, and 1500 are the norms based on quality tiers, time of night, end of month, etc.
But there's clearly even on a slow January, the Argie logic of make zero rather than somehow "lose" whatever they think is the delta between your offer and their imaginary line.Thanks for posting these boliche updates. That was indeed the price range going at Madahos in December. Late on, most will go for 1200, some for 1000 and a very few for 800 if the timing is right. A reliable chica source told me that much and while I like to stick to a baseline figure, I ended up with XP at each of these price points in this club. Can only assume that when business is bad, up go the prices to compensate. Not normal business logic, but hey, it's Argentina. January is clearly not the month for club fans to plan a visit. Interested to know if things go back to normal in February.
Dropped in to Madahos last night and the place was jumping at 12 30. Met a very hot dominicana who goes by the name Leticia, says she has been in B.A for 6 years.
Bought her a drink (very pricy at 400 )but was determined not take her out, just establish contact. Any intel on this chica would be appreciated.
Dropped in to Madahos last night and the place was jumping at 12 30. Met a very hot dominicana who goes by the name Leticia, says she has been in B.A for 6 years.
Bought her a drink (very pricy at 400 )but was determined not take her out, just establish contact. Any intel on this chica would be appreciated.Did she look like Haily Barry with splked short hair?
Did she look like Haily Barry with splked short hair?Dyed blond hair, amazing figure, not tall, hair not spiked but could have changed it.
Major Bosco
03-12-13, 14:43
I'm not a regular on the club scene but I decided to stop by Madahos last night to see the state of the state (so to speak).
250 pesos to walk in the door. That got me a bottle of water.
Looked around and there were a fair number of women, some very pretty. But, and I say this with respect to those who like a bigger girl, I have never seen so many "wide" rear-ends in 10 years of coming to Buenos Aires. There were a lot of girls with thick thighs and big asses. One woman walking around looked pregnant. Personally, I have always been a fan of those tiny spinner asses they breed like weeds here. Must be all the McDonald's french fries taking their toll. Anyway...
Finally scoped out a pretty native (actually from Buenos Aires, which is rare nowadays) woman named Silvina. I sat down with her and bought her a drink (which was about three sips of Champagne) and another bottle of water for myself. That cost $880 pesos. Then she told me I had to buy her another drink in order to take her out. They charged me $660 pesos for that. I was laughing at how ridiculous this has become. So, here I am. Now about 1,800 pesos into Madahos and I haven't even walked out of the door with dessert.
Initially Silvinia quoted me $400 USD. Yes, 4 franklins. I just laughed. I think she instantly knew by my expression that holding on to that number she stood no chance whatsoever. She finally lowered her price to about $250 USD. To be honest, I was tired, it was late and I just wanted to get on with the show so I agreed.
When we get to her place, she wants the money upfront. Well gentlemen, that's when you know you made a bad pick. I handed the money over and she immediately wanted more. I said no, then she said if she was good, I could give her a propina. I told her the $250 was a propina. Oh well.
Then she was like the tazmanian devil. Out of her clothes, out of mine. Get on the bed, get on the condom and she wanted to jump on me. How thrilling. Now that I have paid her, all she wants to do is go as fast as possible and make me finish quick like and send me on my way. I had to really take control in order to make it worthwhile.
Oh, and she had the nerve to ask for more money again after we were done. And she was busy selling me on seeing her again.
She was good looking and has a nice figure, but it was not even close to GFE. The entire experience of Madahos last night was just another sad twist in the story of Buenos Aires. 7 or 8 years ago a night at Madaho's was fun. You could hang out, drink and finish off with some good fun...now it just feels like you back up to a vacuum cleaner and have your cash sucked out of your ass. I miss the good old days...but at least I know better and won't be venturing back there anytime soon.
Big Boss Man
03-12-13, 19:24
I think the best advice is to always work in pesos not dollars. I paid 1500 P in November with one drink. Guys with good Spanish skills negotiated cheaper prices. Lowest I heard was 1000 p. Thanks for the report.
Big Boss Man
03-12-13, 20:19
I think the best advice is to always work in pesos not dollars. I paid 1500 P in November with one drink. Guys with good Spanish skills negotiated cheaper prices. Lowest I heard was 1000 p. Thanks for the report.I was getting 6.25 p per $ in November so 1500 p was $240 so I think you got the tourist price. I have had similar bad experiences with club girls. This is where the wingman is valuable. Lucas90 waved me off one I wanted last trip. I passed even though I thought she was best looking in the club.
Major Bosco
03-12-13, 22:01
I was getting 6.25 p per $ in November so 1500 p was $240 so I think you got the tourist price. I have had similar bad experiences with club girls. This is where the wingman is valuable. Lucas90 waved me off one I wanted last trip. I passed even though I thought she was best looking in the club.I just translated it to dollars for the post. 1700 pesos was the final price.
Then she told me I had to buy her another drink in order to take her out. They charged me $660 pesos for that.She may have pegged you for a newbie or pushover at this point. Or possibly even earlier on the first chica drink, when (it appears) you also paid more than necessary. I think the minimum is just one, 400 peso drink to take a chica out.
TejanoLibre
03-13-13, 01:16
She may have pegged you for a newbie or pushover at this point. Or possibly even earlier on the first chica drink, when (it appears) you also paid more than necessary. I think the minimum is just one, 400 peso drink to take a chica out.Unfortunately the fees change daily or they depend on your level of Gringoness! Full on newbie will pay extra cover and higher drink prices; Spanish speaking newbies will get a tiny break!
Already 250 p to get in is a JOKE and the vast majority of the Chicas are HAGS! Come on Boys! Give the Indies the money and forget the clubs! 1800 p in drinks to say Hello and another 2 k to fuck a dead fish? Are you serious?
The latest butt fuck:
517 Esmeralda is charging a 180 p cover and then the rest is up to you to cut a deal with one of the hoes. I think it's a way to circumvent the Privado and Hooker Laws.
Has to be! The Privado introduces you to a Chica but does NOT charge you directly for her services. It's up to you and the Hooker.
Sorry but I did not know where to put this but the clubs are insane!
TL.
Major Bosco
03-13-13, 10:45
She may have pegged you for a newbie or pushover at this point. Or possibly even earlier on the first chica drink, when (it appears) you also paid more than necessary. I think the minimum is just one, 400 peso drink to take a chica out.I speak fluent spanish and have been hanging out in BA for the past 10 years. I think it was two things: 1) She didn't want to come back and if I bought the second drink she didn't have to return; and 2) they literally give the chicas 3 sips of the drink. They finish it in 2 minutes while you are still working on yours and then the waiters hound seem to be pushing the chicas to ask for another drink. It's such an Argentine thing. Push two drinks at ridiculous prices when, if perhaps the first drink cost 400 pesos, and the next one cost 200. You'd probably end up spending more money on the drinks. Anyway, the point is that the clubs have indeed become ridiculous, the women are no longer the hottest BA has to offer (yes, still a few exceptions) and I won't be going back again unless something were to drastically change. My only way to tell Madahos that they have lost my business forever is to just not show up. If more of us did that, things might change.
Daddy Rulz
03-13-13, 11:30
My only way to tell Madahos that they have lost my business forever is to just not show up. If more of us did that, things might change.With respect I beg to differ. Based on the Argentinian economic principle of bumping prices to compensate for declining market share, if less of us show up soon a chicka drink will cost only slightly less than a house in Recoleta.
DR.
Major Bosco
03-13-13, 14:52
With respect I beg to differ. Based on the Argentinian economic principle of bumping prices to compensate for declining market share, if less of us show up soon a chicka drink will cost only slightly less than a house in Recoleta.
DR.OK, I am laughing but you are so right!
It seems to me that if you overpay or pay in USD you will have a terrible time because the chica will have no respect for you. You are just a gringo sucker she is taking advantage of. She wants to get as much money as she can from you and get out as soon as possible. She is not worried about repeat business from you or you tarnishing her reputation. The guy who pays her 800 pesos is going to get a much better experience from her. She knows you know. Now you are a customer instead of a mark and she will put her all into it.
It's a buyers market, don't be afraid to leave Madahos empty handed. You are still going to get laid. There are plenty of other places to go and chica to choose from.
TejanoLibre
04-07-13, 03:08
Closed Forever? Maybe.
The Doorman at Newport told us last night that Madahos will never reopen because they reopened without permission after being closed down and because of all their legal problems, some of which are drugs on the premises, underage girls, white slavery and that they beat the crap out of somebody.
(May have forgotten to pay someone off too?
I would be surprised if in fact it never reopens but if they are closed down forever it shows you that they can shut ANYBODY down if they want to do so.
Madahos is a big time Boliche.
TL.
Somebody here should lease it out!
TL.
P.S. Newport was dead tonight from 12 to 2 , left at 2 . Maybe too early but I don't think so, just Sat. Night.
Rock Harders
04-07-13, 09:15
Mongers-.
Here is a link to information about the recent "clausuras" of both Madahos and Black (from the feared La Alameda group no less).
http://laalameda.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/clausuraro-de-los-narco-prostibulos-mas-poderosos-madahos-y-black/
Basically the article says that both Black and Madahos were originally inspected and closed down on March 22nd /23rd by units of the GCBA prosecutor's office being assisted by normal AGC inspectors and actual police and that the inspections were triggered by denuncias made by alleged victims, the La Alameda group itself, and groups of angry neighbors. The prosecutor's office arrived at the conclusion that both places were operating as houses of prostitution and outside their licenses (Class C dance licenses, very hard to get and very valuable) and as such shut both places down and stripped them of their Class C licenses (a devastating blow). Both Black and Madahos reopened several days later and were shut down again for violating the original "clausura" (which stripped them of their right to operate at all). Essentially, according to the information in the article, both Black and Madahos were effectively stripped of their licenses to operate in any capacity and will very likely not be opening at all.
My analysis on this is basically the following: this is the beginning of the end of "organized and controlled" chica bars in the Recoleta area; Hippo, Sodoma, etc will be gone shortly and only freelance places like Newport will be able to survive (Newport has no facilities for the chicas; all girls in street clothes; no cover, exit fee, or touts and they are actually operating within their licensed purpose which is a Class C dance club upstairs and a bar / live music venue downstairs; as such, based on the reasons given in the article, it would be very hard for the GCBA to justify shutting Newport down permanently).
Suerte.
Rock Harders.
Gato Hunter
04-07-13, 09:42
Thanks RH for the insight. Also NP has the real dance club upstairs.
Closing Hippo and the rest would not bring a tear to my eye.
But with three or four clubs worth of chicas out of a place to work, what happens next?
Do they all flood Newport causing la concha overload driving prices down? Or do they flood NP the only game in that side of town and drive prices up?
Newport has looked like 2005 last few nights, even Micheal Jackson has started showing up again. Manning her post at the bottom of the stairs. Mr ED is there too.
As a data point a chica I have known from Madahos for 6 or seven years was working in hook the other night asked me for 1300 pesos I told her to pack sand.
Hang on boys!
Stay horney my friends!
And now I'm going to watch Babe Winkleman.
Member #3320
04-07-13, 13:28
Thanks @ Rockharders for the post.
Daddy Rulz
04-07-13, 15:42
and only freelance places like Newport will be able to survive (Newport has no facilities for the chicas; all girls in street clothes; no cover, exit fee, or touts and they are actually operating within their licensed purpose which is a Class C dance club upstairs and a bar / live music venue downstairs; as such, based on the reasons given in the article, it would be very hard for the GCBA to justify shutting Newport down permanently).
Suerte.
Rock Harders.Knowing the law is often fluid here, do you see DCBA going after Newport anyway? Also given the power of the local Mafia (excuse me, PFA) do you think they will eventually use their power to see clubs like Madaho / Black reopened? That has to be a huge loss in mordita.
Only time will tell if they re-open or not. If they don't, I have mixed feelings. Madahos was one of my favorite places on the planet between 2004-2010 or so. But as they jacked up their prices, it lost some of its appeal. You can't expect a good thing to go on forever. One thing for sure, I'm not worried about finding good spots to monger, in BA or elsewhere.
FrankAndStein
04-07-13, 16:28
Opening the doors before resolving the issues over the closure is a big mistake, very serious, but a few bucks should make it all cozy again.
At worst I would imagine they reopen under a new name, new SRL. Habilitacion might take a while, but as always a few mangos to grease the wheels and it could be just a few months.
Also guaranteed that this group will target other places, but I'd guess Newport as being way down the list.
No matter, there will always be another place opening to replace the ones closed.
Prohibitionists just never learn.
I've been trying to get to BA for years and finally have a trip scheduled at the end of the month and now this! From the reports it sounded as if the best days for Blacks and Madahos were in the rear view mirror anyways but I still wanted to see them, if only to have a drink and view the eye candy and cross it off the list.
On the plus side maybe this will reset the market. Putas still got to eat and pay rent and they're not likely to get office jobs anytime soon. Maybe some good deals to be had? Interesting times coming I'm sure.
Rock Harders
04-07-13, 17:58
Opening the doors before resolving the issues over the closure is a big mistake, very serious, but a few bucks should make it all cozy again.
At worst I would imagine they reopen under a new name, new SRL. Habilitacion might take a while, but as always a few mangos to grease the wheels and it could be just a few months.
Also guaranteed that this group will target other places, but I'd guess Newport as being way down the list.
No matter, there will always be another place opening to replace the ones closed.
Prohibitionists just never learn.Mongers-.
A new place could in fact open in the Madahos / Black locations very easily under a different name, corporate entity, and format. As soon as the new corporate entity is ready to go (whether it be SRL, SA, or whatever they choose to do) they could get a cafe / bar license (which allows full alcohol sales but limited food) in ONE DAY as that is an AUTOMATIC license that requires no previous inspections prior to opening the doors. Any new facility would be hard to shut down as long as it operated as a freelancers place where management exerts no control whatsoever over the girls and accommodates all customers equally (no lockers for the girls, no price differences, no entrance / exit fees). The located is marked and would draw scrutiny but as long as normal operational regulations are followed (capacity, fire extinguishers, cleanliness, paperwork etc) there is nothing the GCBA could really do.
Suerte.
Rock Harders.
Rock Harders
04-07-13, 18:07
Knowing the law is often fluid here, do you see DCBA going after Newport anyway? Also given the power of the local Mafia (excuse me, PFA) do you think they will eventually use their power to see clubs like Madaho / Black reopened? That has to be a huge loss in mordita.Mongers-.
As long as Newport has their paperwork in order and abides by the rules of their habilitacion, there is really nothing the GCBA can do to them. Newport's management can't be forced be ban the women from going to the bar simply because they may or may not be prostitutes. Consenting adults agreeing to fuck for money isn't illegal in Argentina; forcing others to engage in prostitution and / or earning money from other's prostituting themselves IS ILLEGAL. The PFA have absolutely no power over the opening / closing of establishments in the city of Buenos Aires; the AGC (agencia gubernantal de control) issue and control all habilitations in CABA.
Suerte,
Rock Harders.
Mongers-.
As long as Newport has their paperwork in order and abides by the rules of their habilitacion, there is really nothing the GCBA can do to them. Newport's management can't be forced be ban the women from going to the bar simply because they may or may not be prostitutes. Consenting adults agreeing to fuck for money isn't illegal in Argentina; forcing others to engage in prostitution and / or earning money from other's prostituting themselves IS ILLEGAL. The PFA have absolutely no power over the opening / closing of establishments in the city of Buenos Aires; the AGC (agencia gubernantal de control) issue and control all habilitations in CABA.
Suerte,
Rock Harders.What does the law have to do with anything?? Does the president obey the law? My favorite boliche out here in the boondocks was closed 2 years ago by the PREFECTURA! Miles from the water, they have no jurisdiction in that area. But because the local police were well paid off and would do nothing, and since the current administration wants to close these establishments, they were sent to close that club and four others close by. As it was pointed out in another thread recently, there is no law or justice in this country! Now all those poor girls are walking the streets! Pobrecitas!
TejanoLibre
04-07-13, 18:55
Mongers-.
Here is a link to information about the recent "clausuras" of both Madahos and Black (from the feared La Alameda group no less).
http://laalameda.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/clausuraro-de-los-narco-prostibulos-mas-poderosos-madahos-y-black/
Basically the article says that both Black and Madahos were originally inspected and closed down on March 22nd /23rd by units of the GCBA prosecutor's office being assisted by normal AGC inspectors and actual police and that the inspections were triggered by denuncias made by alleged victims, the La Alameda group itself, and groups of angry neighbors. The prosecutor's office arrived at the conclusion that both places were operating as houses of prostitution and outside their licenses (Class C dance licenses, very hard to get and very valuable) and as such shut both places down and stripped them of their Class C licenses (a devastating blow). Both Black and Madahos reopened several days later and were shut down again for violating the original "clausura" (which stripped them of their right to operate at all). Essentially, according to the information in the article, both Black and Madahos were effectively stripped of their licenses to operate in any capacity and will very likely not be opening at all.
My analysis on this is basically the following: this is the beginning of the end of "organized and controlled" chica bars in the Recoleta area; Hippo, Sodoma, etc will be gone shortly and only freelance places like Newport will be able to survive (Newport has no facilities for the chicas; all girls in street clothes; no cover, exit fee, or touts and they are actually operating within their licensed purpose which is a Class C dance club upstairs and a bar / live music venue downstairs; as such, based on the reasons given in the article, it would be very hard for the GCBA to justify shutting Newport down permanently).
Suerte.
Rock Harders.Thanks for the info and the very informative link.
Doomsday!
I was told years ago that a Class "C" license has not been issued since 1976 and that they are impossible to obtain today. My question is if a club had it before and you take over does the license come with it if you want it? Like a "grandfathered" item.
I know that works with handicapped toilets and a few other things.
The article talks about Madahos breaking the non-smoking laws in the VIP section, that they lack a dance floor and that the Chicas were just hanging around in lingere, no taxes were being paid on the drinks and the worst thing they did was to violate the "clausura".
And that the owner if Hippos is pleased!
TL.
As The World Turns!
Rock Harders
04-08-13, 01:11
Thanks for the info and the very informative link.
Doomsday!
I was told years ago that a Class "C" license has not been issued since 1976 and that they are impossible to obtain today. My question is if a club had it before and you take over does the license come with it if you want it? Like a "grandfathered" item.
As The World Turns!Mongers-.
Full "Clase C" dance licenses are not impossible, but are extremely expensive and difficult to obtain; think at least a one year process (during which the premises may not open) and about $150,000- $200,000 USD in "fees" to get all the signatures and approvals. What are more easily obtainable are "Clase C complementario" which gives the right to dance and have additional capacity in a designated area of an establishment covering no more than 30% of the square footage; even these are very expensive and time consuming but at least the premises may be open for business while the application is processing. Habilitations MAY be transferred, however the record of incidents associated with the habilitation follows the transfer so in the case of Madahos / Black they would effectively be useless.
Suerte,
Rock Harders.
TejanoLibre
04-08-13, 22:14
Last night there was a girl working at Catto's and it was her 3rd. Night working there. Very cute Dominican girl about 5 ft .5 in. Tall, light skinned and maybe 23 years old. Her name is Leticia and she had been working at Madahos until they shut it down the other day.
Leticia told me that the club will either reopen this week or next week. Maybe? I should have asked her what the other girls are doing until then or if she had to lower her asking price since she was working at Catto's instead of Madahos but it would have cost me a drink to find out and she does not meet my requirements. Nothing wrong with her and she even offered me her phone number but I did not want to buy it.
Wait and see what happens to Madahos.
TL.
Rubiks Cube
05-17-13, 01:39
Is Madahos really closed? Any idea when it should reopen?
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