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Madahos 1902 Azcuenaga
Corner of Azcuenaga & Vicente Lopez in Recoleta
4805-3208 / 4807-1311
www.madahos.com
info@madahos.com
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One of my favorite places, but please don't pay more than $200AR.
Recent inside intel has revealed that the owner has instituted a minimum price policy as follows:
Tourists: $300 pesos per hour.
Argentinos: $200 pesos per hour.
They are attempting to enforce this by requiring the girls to "show them the money" when they return from a date. Of course, there's nothing preventing the girls from showing the required amount that includes their own cash, but then we would have to assume that they actually have some of their own money, and we are talking about chicas here.
In addition, the chica drink prices have increased to $50.00AR minimum, and they appear to have done away with the special "Madahos" drinks that were being offered at a higher price.
Finally, they have reduced the maximum number of drinks that you need to by for the girl to leave for the night from 3 drinks to 2, which means now that you can pay $100ar for two drinks and the chica doesn't have to return (of course wether or not you do a TLN is another issue)
Update April 20, 2005
Madaho's dual price policy described above is being enforced. I heard through reliable first person accounts that a chica I know who works there was recently taken aside by the manager and fired because he had information that she had gone with a foreigner for less than their proscribed price of $300ARS.
I've been a fan of Madahos since they opened two years ago, and given that my apartment is only two blocks away, I've been a frequent visitor, but really, this is BS. It's one thing if the chica wants to play the "stupid foreigner" game and try to get me to pay a ridiculous price, because in a free market I can always walk away, but it's completely different when the club institutes and enforces such a prejudice.
Anyway I've always hated any situation where I was prejudice against because of my country of origin, and thus lately I've been taking my business elsewhere, but now I think it's time for everyone who reads this Forum to strongly consider patronizing any of the many alternatives to Madahos.
I was yesterday night in Madahos and entered in some price negotiations with 4 chicas.
Basically, they all start at 300P, then, based on my negotiations skills, limited spanish skills and the chica's willingness I was able to go down to 200P except for one.
However 200P + 50P bar-fine = 250P it's more than the top internet girls (Heidi, Antonella,...) with no insurance that the service will be on par with thoses great pros. In addition two of 4 were CBJ only.
The assets quality, last night, was good though I did not see any 9 or 10 (always very subjective).
I saw again a small chicks with big boobs, late twenties. I might do this one one day.
FRANS
It seems being an "amigo de Jackson" doesn´t get one past the entry fee here anymore. It´s now 30 pesos and your first drink free - on Monday night the place was filled to the brim with men looking around. The ratio of men to women was 1-1 at about 1am when I was there. Plenty of attractive women around, some dogs, some middling. The overcrowded nature of the night, however (NO seats available anywhere) let me to make a swift departure.
JustGotBack
03-01-05, 20:19
Went there last night at about midnight. Pretty full. More men than women though. I guess I missed the crowd. I didn't have a problem finding a seat. I don't know what to say. Madaho's makes me sad. I remember when it opened but it seems like a lady past her prime and not having the sense to stop. The women there are not very hot compared to a couple of years back. I also know more than a few from way back in their Solid Gold days before they switch to the new hot spot Madaho's. They used to be young, hot and bubbly. Now they are older, cold and hard core professionals. Much can be said of the club itself.
Mickey Mouse
03-02-05, 02:08
Hunt,
I don't pay cover charges anywhere in BA, but if you had avoided the entry fee at Madahos, you would have paid 30p for your drink at the bar (so it makes NO difference) and that's cheap compared to the ladies' drinks. The Bottom Line is: Madahos has gotten expensive (drinks, girls etc) and there is NO way you'll avoid paying whether getting in, having one or F...k.ng one.
I guess that's why it's been a while since I've kidnapped a Madaho girl. It makes my night with "The Feature Dancer" look like the bargain of the century!
One Mouse's Opinion
Sounds like Madahos is turning into the Blue Marlin Bar (San Jose, Costa Rica) of Buenos Aires. In reading reports from past couple of years, it seems like at almost any place in Bs As the standard fee was 100-150 pesos. Now the freelancers seem to have upped it to 200 pesos minimum. I am sure this not due to the lack of negotiating skills of the all the pro mongers here - just naive gringos paying too much and the girls figuring out that they can get more than they have been.
The same thing happened in Costa Rica as well (I was there last June but have not yet been to Argentina - been considering with increasing trepidition whether to come this June). At the Blue Marlin Bar - the freelancer hangout in the center of the city - all girls start out at $100 (yes, they quote in dollars and not colones) and many Americans and other tourists pay that much for whatever reason. And Panama also - where it is always $100 and up.
Please correct me if I am wrong - just my thoughts. :-)
Cheers.
Crypton.
Mouse, you certainly are right that the 30 peso cover charge buys your first drink, so it's not simply a "cover charge."
I was shocked to see how crowded this place was on my recent visit; it was almost like a normal night club in this respect, rather than the "shopping center" that it is intended to be. I have enjoyed this place very much on past visits, but not this time. Hopefully next time it will be better.
I don't want to beat this dead horse, but the drink they served for the cover charge was the worst gin and tonic I have ever had. I drank about a third of it before I left it on the bar. I think that stuff was distilled from tampons discarded in the ladies' bathroom. Yuck.
Stopping by Madahos the other night after a nice dinner with good friends, my expections were high entering the club. Three guys from the dinner were there, and I wanted to hook up with them briefly, and then head to the Triangle.
After paying 30 pesos for a beer, I found the other guys, and proceeded to survery the scene. Close to 100 girls were present, all decked out in various attire, but the arrogance in the air was thick. In all my times that I have been here, there have always been a few girl next door types that were very nice, friendly, and nice looking as well. Not tonight, as the attitude seemed to be, "I''m a Madahos girl, so pay me." I have never seen it so bad. Two weeks ago, we stopped in Black for a few drinks. The girls in there were much nicer. Yes, they ask for more $$, but were much nicer.
Maybe this was an off night, but if it continues, I do not think many guys are going to recommend this place, especially if Black continues to employ really nice girls. I left alone, as did my friends, as they never saw it so bad either.
Enjoy the life,
Moondog
Crypton,
I was in San Jose (Costa Rica) 2 years ago so it might have changed but the $100 start price was almost a "joke" among the chicas. They all asked it and like the lottery they might get a taker once in a blue moon. However, with even the slightest negotiation the price came down. The only ones that held to the price were using it as an excuse because they didn't want to go with monger.
Madahos is a different story according to recent reports with many to most of the women sticking to the inflated price.
JustGotBack
03-04-05, 22:02
Moondog, glad to have had dinner with you the other night and meet up with you at Madaho's. I absolutely agree with you. From my previous report a girl wouldn't go lower than 450 for me the other night, but last night I was only quoted a comparatively low 300. Looking back, I'm not sure why I've been there every single night this week. The girls are hard cold professionals. Some won't even talk price with you until you buy them a drink now. Sadly, their attitude isn't an off night.
Does Madaho's have a car service now? Instead of hailing a cab for me last night, they brought around a black BMW. When I asked the guy how much the ride was after arriving at my hotel. He said just a tip sir. I gave him 10 pesos which is only about 2 - 4 pesos more than a metered taxi. He said thanks. He also told the girl to call when she was ready to leave and he'd take her back to Madaho's.
On my recent trip in Feb/Mar. I visited Madahos no less than 10 nights. I took out a total of 6 different girls. One girl, Kelley from Paraguay, I pulled out twice. She is a very hot/cute blond. Both times I paid $300 pesos and she did BBBJ. I highly recommend her.
I took the (in)-famous Emily out on my last night in town. Had been forwarned about her being a bit possesive. Didn't give her that chance since I was leaving the next day. She gives great service with bbbj. Cost was $300 pesos.
Mondays - Thursdays are packed in here. Friday & Saturday are not that busy. Sundays are dead.
MiddleAgeGuy
03-23-05, 12:23
The car service is from a guy who makes his earning in tips from you while at the same time, has a cell so the girls can call him if they want a ride back. He is also something like a bit of extra security for the girls. At least that's the way it was a couple years ago.
On another Madaho note, if you have wild money to throw around, the go-go dance girls are for hire. Late last year I know of someone who wasn't in there for more than 45 minutes and after a little talk with the manager, and I'm sure a wad of cash, he was waltzing out of there with 2 of the dancers.
I think this is NOT an example of 'running amock' of the price structure. It is simply one of those lottery's the girls hope for from time to time. My problem will be if I go in there with the guy, I could be marked as a high roller. As you know, these girls have long memories. Hell, I'll do it anyways just to watch the LCN in full swing. This will take some careful damage control however.
MAG
Mickey Mouse
03-23-05, 15:41
Two years ago I was able to bring home the "Feature Dancer" (She was HOT) for a 1 drink price (for the house) of 100p and 250p for 1 1/2 hrs with the girl. I've tried only once since with no luck.
Seems like a deal compared to now.
MM
HappyGoLucky
03-24-05, 12:32
Last year and the year before I spent about half my trip in Madahos. This year I went once and was so put off by the "professionalism" and outrageous prices that I never returned. Instead I spent all my time outside the Recoleta and spent half as much with ladies every bit as beautiful and a whole lot more GFE. I guess that makes me one of those cheap WSG working STIFFS that Saint likes to write about...
BUT, who's HAPPY baby, who's HAPPY?
SFTraveller
04-09-05, 01:25
Argentips travellers guide that you can pick up at most hotels has a 1 free pass for Madahos. The website is argentips.com.ar
you still have to pay for drinks and girl.
When I made my 1st visit to Madahos there were 30 or so lookers and around 10 guys. It was early. My 1st offer wanted 450 p. she went for 300p back to my place. for BBBJ and multi position.
Madaho's dual price policy (200ars for Argentinos, 300ars for foreigners) is being enforced. I heard through reliable first person accounts that a chica I know who works there was recently taken aside by the manager and fired because he had information that she had gone with a foreigner for less than their proscribed price of $300ARS.
I've been a fan of Madahos since they opened two years ago, and given that my apartment is only two blocks away, I've been a frequent visitor, but really, this is BS. It's one thing if the chica wants to play the "stupid foreigner" game and try to get me to pay a ridiculous price, because in a free market I can always walk away, but it's completely different when the club institutes and enforces such a prejudice.
Anyway I've always hated any situation where I was prejudice against because of my country of origin, and thus lately I've been taking my business elsewhere, but now I think it's gotten to the point for everyone who reads this Forum to strongly consider patronizing any of the many alternatives to Madahos.
Hi Bennie,
I am on your side, but arn't you afraid that some enforcer will look you up and beat you up for stiffing the chica?
Veterano
Hi Bennie,
I am on your side, but arn't you afraid that some enforcer will look you up and beat you up for stiffing the chica?
VeteranoHi Mr Butts,
In several years in Buenos Aires, I've never heard of any club or any chica employing "an enforcer", I've never received any 2nd hand reports of any monger being subjected to any "enforcer" style threat or action, I've never been personally threated by any claim that a chica would call "an enforcer", and of all the hours of conversations that I've had with chicas over the years, I've never heard one of them ever refer to having an "enforcer" in their employ or available for hire if needed.
The fact is that these chicas are, for the most part, independent operators, and in fact their personal financial problems are of little interest to anyone other than themselves.
In addition the generally accepted rule is that if a dispute breaks out before the chica is naked, then you don't owe her anything.
Thanks,
Jackson
Daddy Rulz
04-22-05, 13:40
Once I had some chick return with a goon so I went into full on Rambo mode and tossed him off the 14th story of my hotel. Ok that's bullshit, I only stuffed his head in the toilet. Ok that was bullshit as well, nothing like that has ever happened to me either. I was talking to corn row girl at E N once though and she hinted to the fact that she was "very protected" there, so I recon that if you get out of line in their transitorio you might have some problems.
Jacksons right Mr. Butts and it's both your moral and legal responsibility not to let them change the deal once your behind closed doors. This sort of behaviour MUST be nipped in the bud. More than once I've had a chica try that sort of thing, "dollars not pesos", "I didn't understand that you wanted to stick it in THERE and I don't do that" that kind of crap.
I have a good stratagy, start getting dressed and when they ask them what your doing tell them your going back out and they need to get dressed. When they ask you for money just laugh and tell them to get out. About half the time when they realize your not joking they change their mind because the rent is getting dressed. If they don't your only out taxi fare from the boliche to your hotel. Of course this presupposes you didn't pay them in advance.
When they ask me for taxi fare back to the club I laugh again. If you don't do your work on your job you get fired right? Does your boss pay your way home after you get fired? The other advantage to this is the more they ***** back at the club the better because it discourages the others.
I have visited both the Blue Marling, Madahos and numerous clubs in Rio. Madahos is the most expensive for the shortest service by far.
I concurr with the opinions posted about Madahos being ridiculously overpriced for Americans these days. I was there in January 2005 and they had already started those tactics. The sad thing is that Madahos was a favorite of mine and many others who visited Argentina in recent past.
Madahos is lousy compared to the Blue Marlin, where you can have several hours for less than 100 bucks easily without having to buy any overpriced drinks or get pressured to go as fast as possible. The one advantage Madahos has over someplace like Blue Marlin is that you're dealing with freelancers in Blue Marlin, they could rob you or do anything to you if you bring one back who's nuts. Madahos the girls work out of that club so you have more safety.
One Tree Hill
07-03-05, 23:12
Bennie has got it right. BOYCOTT!
Boycott! There is a policy for girls to charge as much as possible! Also, I believe the girls have a ¨code of conduct¨ to provide as little service as possible.
Jaimito Cartero
07-04-05, 11:28
The first and only time I went to Madahos I thought it was overpriced. While there were nice chicas here, there are plenty of other places that you don't pay as much for drinks, and find as nice chicas (in my opinion) This obviously shows that some guys will pay whatever the girls want.
It would be interesting to see if their business goes down. There are many people who think that if they pay more, they get more. Black's is a pure example of this, I think.
I tried to check out Mahados last night, but they had me waiting in the lobby for some chica who was supposed to take my 30 pesos. Chicos just walked in with pats on the back, but I was supposed to wait in the lobby like a peasant. I walked out (for a moment the guy lilterally obstructed my exit), and the worst thing was that the guys yelled obscenities at me for walking out. This is a place to avoid. From the peek I got, the chicas down the street at New Port were just as pretty, and there was no crazy 30-peso and 90-peso drink rule. Free the chicas!
Dancesw/Chicas
07-04-05, 13:55
That's it. The place is history for me.
DWC
Jesus, even I am going to avoid this place after reading this. And that's saying something.
The Alphabet
07-17-05, 14:49
I checked out this place in June. Thay have alot of stunning women in this club. I talked to a few and got some quotes. They asked me how I knew about the 300 price for gringos. After I told them they quoted 300 for TLN.
I didn't take anything out of here but it was fun playing with the girls for awhile.
Enjoy.
The Alphabet
SobeLizzard
07-19-05, 17:54
The bouncer (rude guy) with the pony tail demanded that I buy 4 drinks if I wanted the chick for 8 hours. Four drinks cost (4 x 60 pesos) 80USD. 240 pesos to a local is $240 USD to us in America. Imagine that!
She promised to stay 2 hours for 300 pesos but ended up staying 1 hour.
I was robbed by that Brazilian ***** Brenda.
At this point, I did not return to Madaho and Blacks was my favorite hangout. The woman are more classey at Blacks. I must have spent $2000USD for 6 over nighters. I bet you can't do that in New York City, Las Vegas, or ant part of North America.
If the girls really likes you and you pay her super big bucks. She will do you Bare Back. Nothing feels better than to fuck a Versace Model bare back.
After doing this chick, you don't want to fuck any ole skank in America.
As Father Guido Sarducchi would say." Gooo Blacks Gooo!
Scubeeee Dooo Beee Doooooo!
Jaimito Cartero
07-19-05, 20:07
So, you're still lots cheaper off than Mitchell Brothers, right? What's $80 to a rich gringo? Did you pay up front too?
Does any newbie actually go back and read posts?
Bangkok Dave
07-19-05, 21:02
The bouncer (rude guy) with the pony tail demanded that I buy 4 drinks if I wanted the chick for 8 hours. Four drinks cost (4 x 60 pesos) 80USD. 240 pesos to a local is $240 USD to us in America. Imagine that!
She promised to stay 2 hours for 300 pesos but ended up staying 1 hour.
I was ROB by that Brazilian ***** Brenda.
At this point, I did not return to Madahoe and Blacks was my favorite hangout. The woman are more classey at Blacks. I must have spent $2000USD for 6 over nighters. I bet you can't do that in New York City, Las Vegas, or ant part of North America.
If the girls really likes you and you pay her super big bucks. She will do you Bare Back. Nothing feels better than to fuck a Versace Model bare back.
After doing this chick, you don't want to fuck any ole skank in America.
As Father Guido Sarducchi would say." Gooo Blacks Gooo!
Scubeeee Dooo Beee Doooooo!$ 2000 US for 6 nights? In Argentina?
Absurd! Some chicas are laughing their asses off at you.
Dave
Aramis Col
07-21-05, 20:12
Only a opinion based in my experience. If you want to walk out with a girl for more tahn one hour, you can wait untill 3;00 a. M. Sharp after this it is up to the girl if she comes back to the pub. To be clear, if you have a sweet talk and a you fin the girl in a good mood, with 300 pesos you can spend with her two or even three hours. Of course the girls are tricky, but not all of them.
Good luck
Back to Madahos, after almost a year. Ar$30 the entrance.
On the surface, the place looks unchanged, but quality of girls definitely went down (70 to 80, although girls claimed 200) Only half of them were doable, and among the ones doable, there were a lot of attitude (like "I'm a princess")
I liked a girl called Micaela, from La Plata. She has a great body, a beautiful face and firm, c-cup breasts, and merits further attention. She was out of base considering Cocodrilo "the worst chica-joint in town" (she never heard of Calypso in Constitución LOL) I may come back to try her, anyway.
My old favorita Débora left the hobby by the end of 2004, a waiter told me. Too bad, she was the best ever to me.
Hope this helps,
Andres
I went to Madahos yesterday, very early (11:45 PM) Good time to arrive, since it was full of girls but not that many men, and I could secure easily a place next to the bar. 45 minutes later, the place was packed.
Meanwhile, I viewed the selection, finding it much more varied that the night before. There was an ebony woman with a body to die for, and 10 or so stunning girls. One of these was Fiona.
She is from Misiones and has an incredible body (Jessica Rabbit style): Slim waist, round butts, big tits. Her face is average at the most, but that body alone makes up for the whole deal.
When chit-chatting, I discovered a sweet and attentive person. Combined that to the acceptance of my conditions (ar$200, including BBBJ but no CIM) it was a deal. She commanded a drink (ar$60) and we left to the Acapulco transitorio down the street (ar$52 the room)
Great session. One of the best BBBJs I received in years. She was so kind that she offered multiple rounds, but I couldn't stand for it (the 6th night in a row doing boliche hopping)
Even though this experience was expensive (ar$340 total) it was worth the price because it was memorable. Had it been an average experience, I would have deemed it too expensive.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Andres:,
340 pesos?
Don't you know that anybody who pays more than 120 pesos is a stupid Gringo fool who has been ripped off?
Shame on you for causing chica inflation for the rest of us. Of course, it's all about you and your selfish dick, isn't it! :( :( :(
;)
Daddy Rulz
08-04-05, 13:37
Andres:
340 pesos?
Don't you know that anybody who pays more than 120 pesos is a stupid Gringo fool who has been ripped off?
Shame on you for causing chica inflation for the rest of us. Of course, it's all about you and your selfish dick, isn't it!:(:(:(
;)Mr Speaker, pause for a question: Are Canadians stupid Gringos or are they in another category?
Andres:
340 pesos?
Don't you know that anybody who pays more than 120 pesos is a stupid Gringo fool who has been ripped off?
Shame on you for causing chica inflation for the rest of us. Of course, it's all about you and your selfish dick, isn't it!:(:(:(
;)I agree. Anybody who pays more than ar$120 pesos for an AVERAGE experience is off base.
Cheers,
Andres
Jaimito Cartero
08-04-05, 21:06
Andres:
340 pesos?
Don't you know that anybody who pays more than 120 pesos is a stupid Gringo fool who has been ripped off?
Shame on you for causing chica inflation for the rest of us. Of course, it's all about you and your selfish dick, isn't it!:(:(:(
;)At least he didn't compare it to what he would spend on a couple of drinks at his foo-foo Chicago or DC bar. 200 pesos for Madahos, is unfortunately the lower end these days. Do you ever have any postive chica reports, or just sniping?
I agree. Anybody who pays more than ar$120 pesos for an AVERAGE experience is off base.
Cheers,
AndresYou know I posted with tongue in cheek, Andres. It's your money and your pleasure. But to be serious for a moment, you willingly parted with 340 pesos for an experience with a chica long before you knew it was going to be an excellent experience.
A few know-it-alls on the board will castagate other posters when they spend so much: think of how many times we've read somebody cackling "the chicas have no respect for you if you pay more than 100 pesos an hour" or some such bullshit. Oftentimes a "stupid tourist price" crack would be thrown into the mix, as well. Which makes me laugh, as we know that nobody here is more a Porteno and a hard-core monger than you are.
I find it hard to square their weighty opinions with your decision to spend 120 bucks on a drill with an unknown chica - that is, unless we disregard their opinions altogether. Frankly, what you spend on a chica is your own business, good or bad, and isn't something that needs commenting on other than as an information-sharing exercise in what things cost.
And more generally, by the way, great series of reports on local boliches.
Jaimito Cartero
08-05-05, 11:39
A few know-it-alls on the board will castagate other posters when they spend so much: think of how many times we've read somebody cackling "the chicas have no respect for you if you pay more than 100 pesos an hour" or some such bullshit. Andres at least is honest about his post, and doesn't have to hide under a new psuedonym.
Some people don't mind pissing in the pond, pricewise, since it won't really affect them in the long run. It does ruin it for the people who live there, and the people who value BA as a place to come and relax with the chicas.
I guess that here we have very subtle nuances that deserve an explanation.
Briefly, when analyzing if a given guy overpaid or not, it is necessary to take into account several factors:
1) BOLICHE: Each boliche has its own price bracket, so guys expect to pay something within that bracket. For instance, Madahos is one of the most expensive clubs, and very seldom does it go below ar$200 for the chica (if at all) Pretending to get a girl for ar$100 to a Madahos chica is a waste of time and money.
Other boliches like Cattos have a lower bracket, so paying more than ar$200 there is clearly off limits and an unnecessary overpayment.
Another issue (and not a small one) revolves around boliche fees. Out of the ar$342 I paid, ar$142 were for Madahos and the hotel (ar$30 entrance, ar$60 chica drink, ar$52 hotel) There is no way to avoid these costs, even if you want to do these girls for free. Same prices for Cattos are around ar$97.
What I mean is that you cannot take a given price on the air. You have to attach it to a given club to assess it.
2) NEGOTIATION: The aspect the most to blame when overpaying is not negotiating, just giving up what the girl asks and not setting conditions for service. If you secure the conditions you want (time, service, etc) then you stand as a negotiator and the girl will respect you and the deal, regardless if you give a "little more" in your overall price.
In short, doing a serious negotiation set the PROPER SCENARIO and helps fellow mongers to avoid girls accustomed who ask what they want and set their conditions (not the monger's ones)
3) ASSESSMENT: You can assess if there is a high probability that a chica will provide a good service. For instance, try to devise if she is willing to please you, if she is flexible, how she kisses, how she caresses, etc. It is not 100% errorproof, but close to that figure.
That said, you can perceive a good experience beforehand if you are careful enough to watch for the signs.
Take-away: Depending on the chica and the deal, ar$340 in Madahos may not be overpaying and ar$300 in Cattos almost for sure will be overpaying.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Andres,
I don't believe you would overpay. I've read many of your posts (very useful posts) over the last couple of years. Just one question, why would you pay $340 when you can pay $50 at Envidia (plus a $10 entry and $30 rt taxi)? I love Envidia. I havent been in Madahos for at least a year. Theres a reason - I was not at all impressed with the caliber of chicas there. Their attitide was also a factor. If the quality was great, Id have no problem paying more, but instead I walked out wondering why I walked in.
Moore:
I'm suffering the "syndrome of the short-time visitor": I have few nights in town, so I have to maximize my bullets. Add that my 2 previous visits to Envidia left a lot to be desired, and you have my reason for avoiding Envidia.
A year ago, I would have visited Envidia and Salomé some Wednesday or Thursday, now and then, and would have secured a beauty for these ar$60-80 (we should add the entrance fee and the propina, too) However, I have no time now to do so.
Cheers,
Andres
In Madahos, there are girls who dance on the stage. I was told that they just dance and never have sex with the customers. Is that true? I just came from there tonight and there was not much girls since today is a Argentina National Holiday. Blacks closed early since not much people came in due to the holiday.
Hi Coolman,
I tell guys who ask about the availability of the dancers that they are not available, but then I get the usual retort to the effect that "they're all for sale for the right price". Perhaps they are available, but it will cost you a $200 peso drink to have a conversation with them to explore the possibility. In addition, I've never seen one of them leave with a customer, although my limited observations are not a scientific study.
Thanks,
Jackson
I would say definitely avoid Medahos. I want there tonight and there were about equal numbers men to women. The girls were nothing special at all. In fact I saw about only 1 to 2 chicas out of all of them that I would even rate above a 7.
Hi Marak5,
Not withstanding your recommendation to avoid Madahos, it would be a mistake to avoid any boliche simply because of the number of Argentino's that may have standing around when you visited. The reality is that most of the Argentinos in any boliche are just having a drink and/or window shopping. The girls know that, and thus they're not really "competition" for the chica's attention.
Thanks,
Jackson
Daddy Rulz
10-04-05, 12:50
I would say definitely avoid Medahos. I want there tonight and there were about equal numbers men to women. The girls were nothing special at all. In fact I saw about only 1 to 2 chicas out of all of them that I would even rate above a 7.Before they started ripping people off really bad, this place used to be full of a high degree of hotties, as Black was before Madahos opened. I wonder where they have migrated to? If we can find this crucial piece of info we maybe able to buy in at an IPO price.
Hi Daddy Rulz,
Your question: "I wonder where they have migrated to?"
The answer is, sadly, Madrid, Mexico City and Cancun.
Thanks,
Jackson
Desperado999
10-06-05, 00:12
Jackson / All,
I know for a fact that the dancers at Madahos are available. A buddy of mine did one of the dancers there on a regular basis. The price is just a lot higher.
Cali.
In Madahos, there are girls who dance on the stage. I was told that they just dance and never have sex with the customers. Is that true? I just came from there tonight and there was not much girls since today is a Argentina National Holiday. Blacks closed early since not much people came in due to the holiday.
Hi Coolman,
I tell guys who ask about the availability of the dancers that they are not available, but then I get the usual retort to the effect that "they're all for sale for the right price". Perhaps they are available, but it will cost you a $200 peso drink to have a conversation with them to explore the possibility. In addition, I've never seen one of them leave with a customer, although my limited observations are not a scientific study.
Thanks,
Jackson
Here are a few pics of one of the Madahos dancers taken in my apt at the Ayers who I scored on during my trip in Sept. 05
She asked 300ar (which is pretty standard in that place, sometimes you can get them down a little)
She was off the nite I met her, danced next night.
Desfruta!
Veterano
23 year old blonde portenia. 300 pesos for 2 hours. Nice face and body. 60 peso drink. 45 for the hotel, 2 hr turn. Once we were in the room in good light, I noticed a lot of tattoos on her that were not visible in the club. Especially one she hid well, on her neck. Too tatted out for me but she was game. I tagged her for at least an hour with no complaints from her. Damn I'm a stud.
Lot of selection at this club with a nice vibe, but i don't think i'll repeat cause its priced at double than most and there are soooo many options in BA. Man i love BA.
Last January I was in Mahdos and there were numerous hot numbers. Last night was a real disappointment, I didn't see any 8's or 9's except the dancers. Lots of girls 5-6. Didn't even bother to get prices, stayed for an hour or so and left.
BB
Why do you guys waste your time in this overpriced, minimal service, over-hyped, rip-off club?When you are only in town for a week, you gotta check all the options. Besides, window shopping can get you primed for the main event at a more reasonable location.
BB
The Tycoon
11-09-05, 00:29
I was at Madahos last night. I got there late, around 0300AM. There were about 25 chicas there. It was slow for a Monday night-Tuesday morning. The selection for my taste was limited. After a while, I observed a pretty Argentine woman who spoke great English. Her name at the club is Jeniffer. She was HOT. After chatting for a while she introduced me to her friend Sylva, a Brunettee with Green eyes and a voloptuous body. I wanted to fuck them both and they were accepting to the idea since they've performed together before. After a couple drinks, we arranged on a price of 250 pesos for each girl. We went to the hotel dowwn the street and the session commenced. It was beautiful. Both girls were hot. Everything was done except anal. It was a great time. I know that you could spend less money on plenty of girls elsewhere in B.A. But If anybody could find (2) two girls of this quality at Madahos for this price let me know. Good Luck.
Major Bosco
11-11-05, 15:07
So, I pulled a pretty little chica from Madahos last night. First time for me from that Boliche. Usually I just enjoy the sites and find it cheaper elsewhere.
We agreed on $300 a$r. We went to the hotel down the street.
So, it turns out to be a really time. Not bragging, but it is relevant to my question. We go at it for about 2 hours. Afterwards, she is telling me I have to give her another $300 pesos because we went for 2 hours. I objected, but she said she had to pay the club for the second hour. Has anyone heard of this? Of course, I refused to pay, but she got all bitchy and I gave her $100 pesos to avoid a scene in the lobby of the hotel.
Appreciate your feedback. Thanks.
Her name is Carola, btw.
Hi Major Bosco,
She is correct about having to "pay" the club for the 2nd hour, but she is ony reffering to the 2nd drink you would have had to pay the club before you left with her had you declared your intention to take her out for 2 hours instead of one hour. This is how the club prevents customers from always buying one drink and then keeping the chica for a longer time.
It works like this: You pay for one drink for one hour, in which case the club's timekeeper gives her 1-1/2 hours to return. If you pay for two drinks, the club gives her 2-1/2 hours to return. If you pay for one drink, and the the girl returns to the club 2+ hours later, then make her pay the extra 50 pesos for the 2nd drink that you should have paid for but didn't.
The solution here is easy: If you keep a club chica for more time than you paid to club, then you need to give her the money to buy the extra drink you didn't pay when you left the club.
Regarding the cost for the 2nd hour with her, I'll leave that to your conscience, but two thoughts come to mind:
1. She gets paid for her time.
2. The two of you should have discussed this at the beginning of the 2nd hour, but you have the primary responsibility for raising the subject, especially after you negoiated a price for one hour.
Thanks,
Jackson
That is most certainly her problem. If she agreed to one hour for three hundred and for what ever reason, no sense of time, or she couldn't resist you or just plain is a piss poor manager, that is her problem. You were likely her only action of the evening and she wanted to squeeze more out of you.
Don't worry about it, but that one is a robber.
The chicas, more or less, have a 1/2 hour to get back to the club above the agreed upon session time. If they return late, they will have to pay a bar fine equivalent to a chica drink. The 100p should have covered it not to mention the 300p (weeks worth or salary) she just got for bangin you. Sounds like she got caught up in the moment before realizing her true motive, extract as much dinero as humanely possible out of Mr. Gringo.
Suerte,
Judd
Punter 127
11-22-05, 15:05
Visited both of these clubs twice this week, both times at the request of other mongers.
Both clubs had many hot chicas, so I decided to bullshit a few, I could not believe the chicas at Black were quoting prices of $400US. After I got over the sticker shock, I offered one chica $200AR, she seemed as shocked at $200AR, as I was at $400US.
At Madahos the asking price started at $300US, but came down to $300AR very quickly, I decided to pass, and went to Cattos and pulled a doble for $150AR each instead.
The really sad part of this story is I saw at least 4 chicas pulled from Black in the short time it took me to drink my one beer. I did not even bother to ask the price of a chica drink in either place.
Punter 127
11-22-05, 15:21
So, I pulled a pretty little chica from Madahos last night. First time for me from that Boliche. Usually I just enjoy the sites and find it cheaper elsewhere.
We agreed on $300 AR. We went to the hotel down the street.
So, it turns out to be a really time. Not bragging, but it is relevant to my question. We go at it for about 2 hours. Afterwards, she is telling me I have to give her another $300 pesos because we went for 2 hours. I objected, but she said she had to pay the club for the second hour. Has anyone heard of this? Of course, I refused to pay, but she got all bitchy and I gave her $100 pesos to avoid a scene in the lobby of the hotel.
Appreciate your feedback. Thanks.
Her name is Carola, btw.
Hi Major Bosco,
She is correct about having to "pay" the club for the 2nd hour, but she is ony reffering to the 2nd drink you would have had to pay the club before you left with her had you declared your intention to take her out for 2 hours instead of one hour. This is how the club prevents customers from always buying one drink and then keeping the chica for a longer time.
It works like this: You pay for one drink for one hour, in which case the club's timekeeper gives her 1-1/2 hours to return. If you pay for two drinks, the club gives her 2-1/2 hours to return. If you pay for one drink, and the the girl returns to the club 2+ hours later, then make her pay the extra 50 pesos for the 2nd drink that you should have paid for but didn't.
The solution here is easy: If you keep a club chica for more time than you paid to club, then you need to give her the money to buy the extra drink you didn't pay when you left the club.
Regarding the cost for the 2nd hour with her, I'll leave that to your conscience, but two thoughts come to mind:
1. She gets paid for her time.
2. The two of you should have discussed this at the beginning of the 2nd hour, but you have the primary responsibility for raising the subject, especially after you negoiated a price for one hour.
Thanks,
JacksonI understand about the drink rule, but they agreed on a price, it is the chicas place to say our time is up, and if you want me to stay you must pay more, not just continue on and expect you to pay more. I think she was lucky to get the extra 100 pesos. I had a chica from Exedra try the same shit on me a couple of trips ago; I bounced her ass out the door.
Went to Madahos on Sunday. Great selection of chicas compared to the other places (Ness, Hooks, Cattos, Affaire) earlier in the evening.
Talked prices with a chica I nailed on 2 occassions a few years prior. She did say the price increased. They initially quote the 2 hour price of 300p. I told her if I had 2 hours with her, I'd die of a heart attack. She quoted me 200p for the hour and to comeback after 3:00am. I fucked up and thought she said come back tomorrow at 3:00, but she was off. I will try to catch her tonight. Maybe I'm getting the frequent flyer discount for the multiple times she came, and liked the way my cock felt up her ass! Hopefully, I'll have a nice dirty post about this incredibly nasty chica tomorrow.
Late,
Judd
Guys.
I want to retract my previous recommendation to avoid Medahos.
There are quite a few smoking girls working in there right now. It was way better than when I was there awhile back.
It is a step below Blacks but the girls are still hot.
Aramis Col
11-26-05, 14:17
I agree. Last night I went to Madahos and Black to make a comparison. It was not a good night for Black, the girls (not all of them of course) were old and with to much make up. In Madahos I really enjoy the view with pretty girls.
Regards
Rock Harders
11-27-05, 18:56
Made Madahos my second stop of the night, after a brief pit stop at Newport, accompanied by two other mongers and a Brasilian girl that one monger had picked up at the Newport. As previously reported, $35 AR entrance, includes 1 drink, $60 AR chica drinks. There was some quality in this place, even Scores NYC worthy, but at least half were not acceptable. No pressure in this place, which I appreciate. Some quoted figures were $300 AR down to $200 AR, which I laughed at when the chicas suggested those figures. Before I knew it, 5am rolled around, and most of the chicas had left, and it was time to head to Cocodrillos for the afterhours action in hope of accomplishing my goal of the night.
---sidebar of interest---
The beforementioned Brasilian girl (Claudia) smoking hot but lacking any appreciable breasts, was a former Madahos girl, but was kicked out of Madahos for bad behavior and as such works at Newport- all information obtained from her own mouth upon clever interrogation on my part after noticing that she knew the doorman outside Madahos.
Hi Dirk Diggler and everyone else,
Like I've said before, NewPorts is where chicas who get kicked out of clubs for causing problems go to work because there's no management oversight at Newports.
Thanks,
Jackson
Rock Harders
12-02-05, 21:58
I stopped in Madahos about 2:30 am last night along with a pair of fellow mongers in search of some high quality after slaying the dregs at NewPort the previous night. As we walked in, we realised that on this occaison there was an abundance of high quality. Along with this quality came some ridiculous price quotes I received from about half a dozen chicas. The starting point for most was at least $400 AR for every single initial quote. After some initial haggling nearly all came down to $300 AR, but all would only give that for an hour and thus I remained patient in my quest for top notch poontang for a reasonable price (in my case, not more than $200 AR) Around 4:45 AM the two fellow mongers left-they had scored girls the previous two night consecutively- and I was on my own. At the last minute, I approached the last chica in the place that met my standards, and she tries to intially quote $200 USD, I laugh in her face, then she says $150 USD, and I explain that I live in Buenos Aires and that at this juncture in the night, its a $200 AR take it or leave it offer. She accepts, and we cab it to my apartment.
We arrive, hit the bed, all is well. Very good and sensual foreplay, good bbbj, excellent sex, perhaps the best with a professional chica I have experienced. I'm talking this girls pussy is fucking TIGHT- this girl is very petite, probably 1.55 meters and 42 kilos- her claim, which I believe. During post sex time she gave a good massage, and revealed some interesting information-
1. She used to work at Cocodrillos, and used to date the bartender there, but they broke up and she claim she had a broken heart and stopped eating for awhile.
2. Is friends with the Cocodrillos employee Lorena that I banged last Saturday.
3. Real name is Carolina, is 23 years old (inspected her DNI) goes by Carola in Madahos.
4. Hails from Rosario, is one of 6 siblings, and hates her mother.
5. In January is moving to Mexico City to work, and then plans on moving to Switzerland and Germany to work after that.
6. Claims that some of the "girls" in Cocodrillo are in fact transvestites.
The Bottom Line: RECOMMENDED IF YOU LIKE ALL NATURAL, PERFECT SKIN, VERY THIN GIRLS-
JengisKhan
12-15-05, 06:08
I just got home five minutes ago. I have to say that the girls at Madahos were top quality. I received three intitial quotes by all girls who could have posed for a nudy mag. Two perhaps not playboy but the third for sure could have posed for perfect 10 and been a centrefold. I spoke spanish to them (pretty well I think) and all said 300 pesos to start. If they quote you more its the gringo factor. They all went down to 200 pesos plus a drink (60 pesos) which is not much less, but I'm sure they all would have been worth it. I couldnt really afford it at this time, so I gave them all some weak excuses. Too much money, I have a guest staying at my place, and I don't want a cheap hotel room, etc. And I think with that line of bs I could certainly become the guy that no one goes near. Until I actually take out a chick. ANYWAYS, I have a funny story.
The hottest girl I talked to who Sat on my lap for 10 minutes and chatted with me (I still can smell her pérfume) turned me down at the end of the night. Thats right. I turned her down first, but then at the end of the night I asked her "how much for that hotel?" (which I previously said was too dirty for my tastes) and she replied. "its 30 or 40 or 50 depending on which girl you choose". I said, "and for you?". She replied "I'm going home now, so you had better try someone else." Hard to believe as most here say that it gets easier as the night goes on.
Maybe she was harboring a grudge. Before I turned her down the first time she sat on my lap and I fondled her behind while she did a little touchy feely on me. Then I told her that I didn't believe that her tits were real so she let me feel her up. Perhaps knowing that I wasnt going to take her out, I took advantage of her a little bit. Oh well, I paid my 35 pesos cover charge.
This seems as good a place to make my first comment. Your reports are excellent and have inspired me to go to this particular club.
I'm giving my son who turns 21 next year two weeks anywhere in the world. He chose Argentina. (I must be doing something right.) We arrive on New Year's Eve for a visit and given your reports, I think Madaho's may in fact be the first place we go.
I am not sure if this is the right forum but I would also be interested in any other father's point of view. I'm new to this (taking son to clubs etc. ) and have certain misgivings but feel he needs a certain education that our American culture is unable to give. I'm quite fond of all women but Latin women know how to please men that make some / most American women look quite bad.
This is a great site and kudos to not only DD and JN but also to the founders and many contributors ive read.
Thomaso276
12-17-05, 22:41
Okay, this is too much! If you have misgivings then drop the plan to accompany your son. Let him take a vacation on his own but don't bring him around to clubs. I do not think he is going to feel the same way about Dear Old Dad after having him pimp his trip. Besides, your escapades will get back to friends and others in the States - are you okay with that - as 21 year olds have a tendency to talk about their exploits. Word will get around, guaranteed.
Go fishing with the kid if you must do something together.
Would you bring a daughter along, drop her off in a private apartment for two weeks, to teach how how to please men? Don't think so.
We arrive on New Year's Eve for a visit and given your reports, I think Madaho's may in fact be the first place we go.I strongly advise to skip the holidays season (12/23 to 1/6) since most girls come back home to visit their families. There is some action, though, but nothing compared to most of the year or to the "business' end of year" that many people enjoy now with colleagues and friends.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Tomaso276
Your words are completely sensible. Maybe some of these idiots will hear you. Or maybe they won't.
JengisKhan
12-18-05, 05:38
I agree with the advice not to take your son to Madaho's. You know, if he is 21 he should be going to regular clubs and meeting regular porteñas. JMHO. I would recommend Club 69 or something like that
Okay, this is too much! If you have misgivings then drop the plan to accompany your son. Let him take a vacation on his own but don't bring him around to clubs. I do not think he is going to feel the same way about Dear Old Dad after having him pimp his trip. Besides, your escapades will get back to friends and others in the States - are you okay with that - as 21 year olds have a tendency to talk about their exploits. Word will get around, guaranteed.
Go fishing with the kid if you must do something together.
Would you bring a daughter along, drop her off in a private apartment for two weeks, to teach how how to please men? Don't think so.Amen. Thomm, please consider carefully how ridiculous your words would sound if you asked this of one of your friends. If your son is 21 and not an ugly toad, he will have no problem making regular friends in Buenos Aires. If you need some suggestions for regular places for him to hang out, PM Roxanne.
Dirk,
You mentioned a brazilian named Claudia from Newport's, is she s short fake blonde, maybe 5' tall? If so, I met her several years ago, I was wondering if she is still there. I'm going to be in BA in several weeks and thought I'd look her up.
TIA
Rock Harders
12-18-05, 23:20
The Claudia that I refered to from Newport is probably about 5'4", 115 pounds, dark hair, classic dark brasilian skin and has several tattoos that are generally not visible with the getups she wears when she works. I should mention that through second hand reports via reliable carnal knowledge equipped mongers, I learned that Claudia has roughly six children, all of which live in Brasil, she likes to stay all the night long and well into the afternoon until you have to actually boot her out of whereever you are domiciled, and also that she is a complete wild fucking animal in the sack who will do anything and everything you want. These same reports tell me that she is not nearly as attractive when she is viewed during the daytime. In addition, she speaks perfect english (a sign of a potentially dangerous shark) and attempted to suck $300 AR out of a monger after TLN after an agreed price of $200 AR had been negotiated. At first, I thought I would end up doing this woman at some point because I liked her look and attitude, but after hearing the combination of the six kids, lack of luster upon revelation to daylight, and attempt to hustle a monger, I made the decison to stay away from this thang.
Beautifull blonde from Madahos.
Found a gem in Madahos, long blond hair, small but perfect butt, nice tits, unshaven bush not to my liking still edible.
Do you mind telling me what was the value of your investment?
Cheers!
Strad
Would I be outta place for asking to see photos of that Madahos find?
Respectful
02-04-06, 17:54
I dropped by Madahos last night and was surprised by the high quality of the women there this time. I go to this place about once every 3 months just to check out the quality and because it is convenient if I find myself in Recoleta.
Being horny I started considering which girl would tickle my fancy.
The scene was about 50% blondes (fakes! And many young girls (21-22 if not younger)
Struck up a conversation with one of the blondes (Valeria? Who seemed to fit the bill. After the usual bs we started discussing price. She said Ar 300 was the minimum required by management, she also said that was the same for Argentinos and extranjeros alike. Chica drink at Ar$70 was also required.
I am very sure she could be had for 200 with some negotiating, but at that point I started loosing interest. Figuring that with 200 for her 70 for the drink and another 40 for the transitorio down the road I could do better elsewhere.
So I went to Nuevo Estilo instead.
Oh by the way, she wanted a propina for the time spent with me!
Are you sure the price for chica drink was 70? Perhaps heard wrong and thought 70 when they quoted 60?
I was just in there two nights ago and chica drink I bought was 60p. Unless they've got different weekday prices for drinks.
Respectful
02-04-06, 22:34
Nope, it was 70
Got 30 back on 100 and I always count my change thoroughly.
Hmm, not sure what to say then. I'm by far not an expert - but the only 3x I've evern been into Madahos 3x from beginning of this year to couple nights ago - I was only charged 60p for chica drinks.
Greetings guys,
Madahos has 2 types of chica drinks.
The regular chica drink is $60AR, of which the chica gets $5AR. However, they have a "special" chica drink called the Madahos something or another that is $70AR, of which the chica get $10AR. Thus when you agree to buy a chica a drink, she will order the more expensive drink unless you intervene by specifically telling her that your only going to buy her a regular drink.
Of course all of this is a game, largely foisted on tourists as the Argentinos usually know the scoop and/or the chicas simply don't try to play the game on the locals. My advise is to be direct about specifying to the chica when you agree to buy her a drink that you're only going to buy the regular drink for $60AR. To me, this sets the correct setting for your impending negotiations buy demonstrating to her that you know the game, and that you don't give a flying fuck if she doesn't like that you won't pay for the more expensive drink. It also demonstrates to her that you're not going to be manipulated.
Of course, there will be those guys who believe that it's better not to make the chica mad, and that if they buy the more expensive drink the chica will like them better. Besides, I've heard that if you buy the more expensive drink it helps prevent STDs. Ha, ha.
Jackson
Respectful
02-05-06, 00:11
Thanx for the info Jackson. I am not a regular in Madahos, probably won't be either. Next time I will make sure to pay only Ar$60 however.
Flexible Horn
02-05-06, 13:09
I have a 'friend' who works in Madahos, a friend of 2 years. She told me the minimum they are told to charge is 250 pesos and that sometimes when they return to the club they are asked to show their money to a member of staff.
I know there is nothing to stop a girl charging 150 or 200 and having her own money in her purse to show the shortfall.
FH
I've been lucky enough to visit every once in a while for about 4 years. In the begining I was a newbie Recoleta freak. I really dug Madahos because I liked the vibe in there.
Last September was my first time back in BA about a year and I once again discovered, via the board and then for myself, that all good things come to an end. In my opinion, the way the place is run, the vibe in general, the types and personalities of the chicas, etc. Has all changed.
Anyway, I went in there last September to find out for myself if all the bad stuff was true. I was kind of shocked to find a favorita from over a year before - she was my best fuck from that trip so I was not going to forget her. I got a similar rundown of the "new" operation from her. (FH, this could be the same chica, as it seems to me working 1.5 to 2 years in the same club is ind of rare) I guess in this case it was a similar, but slightly different explanation of the operation.
She told me the management (hee, hee, I wonder if guys such as Al Capone were called the "management" too) was hell bent to becomes the 2nd "Blacks", I. E. They want Black's business. They want to capture the high dollar market and towards that end they set rules on the minimum rates to be negotiated by the girls. She did not tell me they checked "cash in hand" after a return (and that does not seem plausible to me, for a variety of reasons) but the chicas, including her, were very, very afraid to be heard outloud accepting less than the "club standard". I did not ascertain whether this was a "gringo only" thing but who the fuck cares - I don't think locals are the ones on their profit radar anyway.
Historically there has been a lot of dialogue and argument about what prices to accept / pay. Black is always in the radar in that regard. Well, I believe what I was told by this chica - because it makes sense from a business perspective. That perspective is: If the foriegners are willing to pay it, we will charge it. The allusion of high price = better product. In other words, to me, the Madahos transformation is fucking proof that paying too much does have a ripple effect and fucks up everything!
Zappaman
Jjgoinslow
04-06-06, 15:43
After checking out Blacks, Cutty Sark, Jaz, Hooks, Cattos, and a few others, some more than once, I found Madahos to have the best selection.
I found a couple of the girls to be snotty gatos, but many others were willing to spend some time talking with me without any obligation on my part to buy a drink. Usually there is a request after 5 or 10 minutes of talking, would I like to buy them a drink. But when I decline they usually just shrug and half the time they stick around anyway. (I was told tthey have a time limit in theory to talk without a drink 10minutes, but the chicas regularly ignored it for 15 minutes)
I found the rates to be more reasonable than has been quoted on these boards as well. Higher than a privado, but not 300peso an hour (but maybe they just liked my slobbering and BO) I pulled the hottest, friendliest, sweetest 20yo bombshell chica I've ever had the pleasure of for 3 hours or so for 350 pesos. It was 3am however. But she was divine.
There were a couple other girls I liked but their attitudes weren't right. These clubs cost alot more, but one advantage is that you can do alot of window shopping and evaluation. And between before drink and after drink conversation, you can get an hour or so of warm-up time (if you like that) I personally like to talk with the chicas and get to know them a bit beforehand. Ocasionally you really click and not only is the sex much better, but you generally get a better deal, longer time, or any number of advantages, especially if you start seeing eachother outside the clubs, which isnt that hard to acheive. Ive had alot of privado experiences, and they are spotty, its hard to evaluate in the slim time they give you for introductions.
Dear all,
I am about to make my first mongering raid on Bs As in about 2 years - with Madaho's on my hit list - and I would appreciate any answers to the following question.
At the moment I am in my adopted home city of San Luis and something rather strange has happened at the nightclubs - the doormen have suddenly started paying attention to footwear. Last night they would not let me in because I was wearing adidas, even after I explained to them that they cost several more times the cheap shoes from Ringo that other guys were going in with. Damn!
So my question is - am I going to have this problem at Madaho's et al?
This important to me because I wear trainers constantly to help with my back condition, I don't even take a pair of shoes with me when I travel, so I am going to have to pick up a new pair if this is the case, that I will then inevitably never wear again.
Thanks for any help with this fairly trivial matter.
Daddy Rulz
04-09-06, 16:13
I've been into mad hos wearing everything from suites to jeans, never had a problem.
Like Daddy, have worn track shoes and jeans as well as more formal dress.
No problems.
Stormy looks really hot in a formal dress.
Regardless of back problems or dress codes, buy a pair of Rockports if you're going to be doing a lot of walking. They are designed for it and are just as comfortable / durable as Nikes, but look like regular shoes.
Wearing trainers outside of the gym anywhere in the world marks you as an American, besides being a flagrant fashion faux pax. In public, you stand out less wearing a Ku Klux Klan hood.
Now, DH, I said more formal dress, not a formal dress. Everyone knows I have no baggage space for a formal dress. It was so different in the old days, when people traveled with some class. But then, BA was so different in those days.
By the way, have no fear about walking around in BA with track shoes. Your chances of not being identified as an outsider are practically zero, anyway.
But don't wear track shoes if you are wearing a formal dress, it is just too much even in this anything goes climate.
By the way, have no fear about walking around in BA with track shoes. Your chances of not being identified as an outsider are practically zero, anyway.If you stop dressing like a gringo tourist you will not be identified as one from 1 mile away. Its not like being in Mexico where being the only white guy sets you apart.
My opinion is that blatantly showcasing that you're a gringo tourist has got to significantly increase your chances of getting rolled, among other negative effects.
Rock Harders
04-10-06, 00:34
Stormy-
One of this things I took notice of today walking around near my pad was the stylish and "with class" way that the older residents around my area carry themselves. By older I mean over 30. Even if its hot and muggy, they are wearing long pants and long sleeve shirts, all pressed and tucked in and looking razer sharp. I think it is possible to blend in if you are a middle age guy that is reasonably thin (less than 200 pounds) and dresses in a dignified and classy way. In my case, I have absolutely no chance of blending in as a Porteno, even though I speak Spanish and know the ways and places of this city, so I do not make any attempt to blend in appearances wise.
On a different note, Moore once told me that he occaisonally puts on an evening gown, shaves his legs, puts on lipstick and tries lure customers on Godoy Cruz.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
On a different note, Moore once told me that he occaisonally puts on an evening gown, shaves his legs, puts on lipstick and tries lure customers on Godoy Cruz.Yes, I'm ashamed to admit that this is the only line of work available with my Delaware High degree. But I haven't given up yet so please post any opportunities on the employment thread that I created here (http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2573&page=5&pp=15) for my desperate search. I'll take anything, this job really "sucks".
Rock Harders
04-10-06, 02:25
Moore,
It's a good thing that you exhibit the ability to take a joke in such stride.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
Gentleman.
The subject of this forum is helping men find women for sex. Let's get back to the subject.
Thanks,.
Marak5
Daddy Rulz
04-11-06, 16:53
Gentleman.
The subject of this forum is helping men find women for sex. Let's get back to the subject.
Thanks,
Marak5Easy walk into any of the biloches mentioned with you$S 100.00 taped to your forehead and point. The added benifit of paying you$S 100 is because you paid so much your protected from AIDS.
Sidenote: That was you MOORE, you looked FUCKING HOT!
MiddleAgeGuy
05-02-06, 23:42
What's a trip to BA with a new guy if you don't show him Madaho, Black, Estilo, and The Triangle, and, etc.
So Madaho still has a lot of good looking gals if you ask me. It's just that the set up is hard to see around the corner very well as there could be some jems lurking in the back. The pre-requisite dark lighting makes these older eyes work pretty hard see beyond the obvious attributes on display to see what one is really getting.
I did find a nice little package in a Paraguaya with blondish, (dyed) hair and bluish, (colored contact lenses) eyes. She came up to us at the bar and talked for 3/4 hr at least without getting a promise that she would be pulled out of there. That is one good strike. Nothing else was fake and again it was TLN, 350P. Can't remember her show name but those fashionable white club huggie pants on that little unit was all it took for me. The street jeans weren't bad either. Then the real thing dancing on the bed on top of me was irresistible. I hope the neighbors were OK with a little noise in the hotel. I even went for seconds about 5 days later for the comfort factor.
MAG
I was in Madahos last night. The place was packed. I saw most of the same girls that I encountered in my last visit eight months ago. I had no interest in any one of them.
I was very tired and around 2:30, I decided to leave. As I was approaching the exit, I encountered a beautiful girl who I had never seen before. She was very bubbly and her personality really attracted me. She pulled me into a sofa next to the stage and I decided to spend some time with her.
Her name is Rose, 22 yr. Old, from Paraguay. She and a couple of other girls in Madahos are primarily dancers. Rose only works on Wednesday on the floor. I bought a drink for her, 60 P.
Now get this: She told me that tomorrow she is dancing and copa for her is 250 P and salir is 1000 USD. I confirmed it with the waitress.
She has a nice figure and although I was very tired, I took her for a TLN.
At the apt. I got somewhat disinterested. She had fake breasts and that do not go well with me. Also, this was not one of the great implant jobs I had seen. I knew it will boil down to sex only. I let her do all the work. CBJ only. I did not try DATY. I am sure it was available. I was not willing to do any work. Cola was not available. Two hours later, we both hit the sack.
She left around 10 AM. Before leaving she reminded me that she is dancing today and expects to see me by the stage at 1 AM. Yeah right!
Bandy
Yes, Madaho is my favorite! I had a great time two nights ago at Madaho's and picked Lucia, a nice sweety blonde. Besides the admission and drinks I had such a great time, and as it was late, she accepted to stay at my place until noon of yesterday, she made a couple of calls then relaxed. She is an amazing and kind girl, 100% reccomended. Tip: find the ways to chicas get drunk and you will have a great night!
I was told to see Madahos on Wednesdays, so there I went 2 weeks ago.
Lots of girls by 2 AM, but not that many stunning goddesses to justify the expenditure. I saw a Peruvian oldie with nice tits that I hadn't the opportunity to approach, since an older chica from Salome and Cocodrilo approached me first and offered me her service for ARS 200. I remembered that she were good, so I accepted her offer.
The downside was having to accept her chit-chat of "you are getting such a gorgeous woman for ARS 200". Whatever, poor creatures when they are on a low night.
We went to one of the Hotels 2 blocks away, which was under renovation.
Nice service but nothing to brag about. Good CBJ, good massages, many positions, LONG chit-chat about how much she improved after working at Madahos.
Total damage: ARS 35 entrance, ARS 60 chica drink, ARS 200 for her, ARS 40 the hotel. Expensive.
May visit during my next trip.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Aramis Col
05-24-06, 20:20
Not bad at all Andres and I agree with you Madahos is expensive, but for me is the best night club in Buenos Aires. Do you remember the name of the girl, you have been with, the one ex Salome and Cocodrillo?
Best regards
Went to Madahos around 11:30pm to show first timer Slugfest and my new pal Lowlight a couple of the clubs in the Recoleta area. Madahos had it's usual fine selection of most any type of chica you'd prefer. Seemed to be quite a few fake blondes tonight. Sadly, I didn't see two of my past bangs working. I did see the crazy blonde Brazillian (Angie? From a few years back. She had a cute tall Brasilera with her whom we nicknamed Lifesaver because of her colorful outfit. Whenever they ask me where I'm from, as an icebreaker, I always tell them China. The tall brasilera smiled, and the crazy chica rolled her eyes and walked away. I talked for a bit with the tall one, who had a smoken body, but there was no connection. Chao.
Slugfest liked the selection but was spent from lack of sleep and called it a night. I was going to do the same when I spotted this incredibly shapely redhead. I saw her sitting down earlier but thought she might be heavy. I summoned Lowlight and soon we were off to get a better look at this chica. I introduced myself to her and another cute chica latched on to Lowlight. I totally misjudged her. She wasn't skinny or big rather shapely. I knew I was in trouble, when I saw her ample rack and an ass similar in size and roundness to Brisa, formely of Santa Fe 1707. She had short red hair, and was wearing an all red outfit with her tits hanging out of the top. Fiona was her name and she was 26 or 27. Not that strong in the face, but I could careless. Tits and Ass are what's important to me. There was a good connection between us. She laughed at my Cheena joke. We started dancing real close, and I had immediate Woodrow!
We started talking price and I got the 200us bullshit. I didn't fuck around and said 200 pesos. She countered with 300pesos minimum. At that point, I thought there would be a middle ground so I took her to the back of the club to get her heated up. We started making out and she was grabbing my Johnson. I knew I could get her for 250p so I went ahead and ordered her a drink 65p. We kissed and grouped one another for about 20 minutes whe she asked me if I wanted to go. I said I can't afford 300, but how bout 250. She agreed and we were off. It was a small win for me.
Back at my apartment The bj was covered. The bbbj is not the ultimate for me. Her CBJ was very good. She did something I've never seen before as I was on the clock. She massaged her nipples with her hands in this extremely fast motion as I was handling things DATY. At first I thought she was some drug queen scratching her arms. I soon realized she was into it and this was how she takes care of herself. Very cool stuff! I flipped her around for some 69. Did I mention she has an incredibly round ass. It looked even better from that angle. I had to go doggie for the first position. She did not disappoint, as I truly enjoyed her ass bouncing on Minnie Me. We went at it from multiple angles. My favorite being when she rode me reverse cowgirl. Her big ass cheeks would tighten up as she bounced on my cock. At that moment, I truly realized how much I missed this place. We banged for a good 20 minutes before I was spent. I had her get on all fours and put her ass in my face so I could finish. It was a nice release. It didn't make it on her huge butt, but managed to drench her thigh.
Enjoyed the session very much, and I'm looking forward to hitting her one more time before I leave.
I'm not going to lie. I usually just go into Madahos to show newbies the place. I have a hard time going into Madahos and pulling chicas because of the risk reward factor. If I fuck up and get a lemon, I'm out 350 pesos. However, I kicked the tires around with this chica before deciding to invest my hard earned cash with this chica. In the end, I was happy and nutted, and she got paid a weeks salary.
Marak 5, Sorry I didn't pickup when you called. I was nailing this chica from behind when you called. I left my calling card at Lowlight's apartment so was not able to call you back. It's 3:30am and I'm spent. I'd like to head out to Club 69 but don't think I'm going to make it. Sorry dude. I need to rest up for tomorrow. Big plans for Friday. I see big huge massive tits in the near future for me.
Late,
Judd
I went to Madaho's on Wednesday night and picked up a nice girl from Paraguay, Fiorella.
Talked with her about 20' after I got in, I wasn't sure who to pick. She looked really hot in the low light but once out her skin wasn't that nice and also had really hard breast implants, I don't know what they use here but that did not feel natural.
Anyway, in madaho's she was really nice to talk too, we discussed the upcoming world cup and had plenty of make out in the booth.
She asked for 200 USD an hour and we settled for 400p for TLN.
I had a couple drinks and so did she, we were in there about 2 hours, left around 5 am and got to my place. She requested payment upfront and after that was very GFE.
Sex was good and friendly, she left around noon.
Overall madaho was ok for me, but it does get quickly expensive.
The lighting there is quite crappy so look at the women closly specially before you get a little too drunk and everyhting looks like Julia Roberts.
Also note that some women tend to wear a oversized bar with just silicon padding that make their tits bigger than what they are, it can be difficult. Even if you feel here up it will be soft over the bra and feel very real. When you get home with the ***** you will be disapointed.
This place never dissapoints if you hold your ground and negotiate. Sometimes the women are willing to go below. So when yo strike the deal never mention the numbers to the club management. Very important. Just say you have agreed that is all. With the girl you have to agree on what you are going to pay her.
Also sometimes bitches say all night then switch the time on your clock on the night stand and leave early. They are used to being up all night as its their job. You an me after mongering will sleep so keep you valubles locked up.
Had an swsome time on my last time. Hope I can get there sometime in the future.
Micaela from Madahos. 300P for 1 and a half hours. BBBJ, all positions, no anal. Recommended. I have more pictures if interested.
Madahos recently had an influx of girls from Solid Gold. Right now it is packed with chicas.
However I have heard that it won't last for long. If any of you guys know the old english speaking waiter named Bobby who left, he is opening a new club and I have heard that many of the prettier girls in Madahos are planning to leave and go work at his club. Madahos is well aware that this is going to happen, they are issuing warnings to the girls that if they leave Madahos to go work in the new club, they will never be welcome in Madahos again.
Hit it while its hot.
Chica D said:
"However I have heard that it won't last for long. If any of you guys know the old english speaking waiter named Bobby who left, he is opening a new club and I have heard that many of the prettier girls in Medahos are planning to leave and go work at his club. Medahos is well aware that this is going to happen, they are issuing warnings to the girls that if they leave Medahos to go work in the new club, they will never be welcome in Medahos again."
I have heard the same thing. New club was supposed to open at the end of May, but who knows when that will happen. It's just down the street from Madahos about half a block on Vicente Lopez.
I was in Madahos a couple of times during my trip and the amount of hot women is unbelievable. I went with Judd and Slugfest one night and Marak 5 the next. The eye candy is to die for. You will never find a girl like that in the US for the price you are paying in BS AS. Yes gems can be found elsewhere but why go to a flea market to find a bargain when SAKS 5th avenue is right around the corner. This place rocks!
Full Throttle
06-06-06, 11:52
. Why go to a flea market to find a bargain when SAKS 5th avenue is right around the corner. Is that rhetorical? Of course you go to the flea market.
FT
Recently I had a conversation with a whoare that I keep in touch with (rare occurence). I shouldn't say whoare because she is a very nice, proper, middle class girl that I jam for money occasionally. She is one of several that left Madonna and started at Madahos, an understandbale move since since she makes 300-400 per session at Madahos vs 150 at Madonna. Actually much less at Madona since she only keeps 70% of the gross IIRC.
Recently she, along with several other new girls, was told by temporary management that she could no longer work out of Madahos. She was dismissed because she was too successful, being taken out at least once/night while a lot of the "old guard" passed many nights on the bench without a session. She had only started about two weeks earlier.
Apparently, the "old guard" girls have enough clout to get successful fresh girls banned. The axman was a guy named Horacio who is the temp manager while the GM is visiting the Mar Del Plata branch. He would rather appease the 30 benched dogs than have a few new profitable chicas like her. It doesn't make sense.
She tells me that most of the regular girls there are "operadas" (fake parts, plastic, bad skin, rough) and that they get pissed seeing her get many more clients than they do. She looks like a reasonably pretty/sexy and natural secretary or student, pure Argentine and looks nothing like a rough whoare.
I can't believe that Madahos would ax a top seller(s) instead of telling the bench to scram and possibly retire. Madaho's is two blocks from my apartment and I havent been in there in maybe 2-3 years. I never liked it.
Could be some of the typical local business acumen, though it wouldn't be the first time a sharper employee got drummed out of a work environment full of deadwood. Makes em feel bad, dontcha know.;)
I have to say Moore that is one of the most pointless posts I've ever read. Second hand gossip, no direct experience, and nothing good to say about anything.
The chica universe in these places lethal to say the least.
They all talk shit, a lot. They all lie, a lot. They steal from each other. They get into fist fights outsidde the clubs. They all have serious emtional problems. Add in the drugs and this world is not something you want to be a part of.
Its happened to me personally. I say one harmless thing to a supposed "friend" of my chica. The next day she gets 4 message from girls from Madahos saying things that I never said. All the lies become so complicated so quickly that no one knows what to believe by the end of it.
I walk into Solid Gold and the rumor is that my chica quit the business. I knew she was just sick but no no these Solid Gold chicas were telling me I probably wouldnt hear from here again. Its all bullshit. These girls are skilled social manipulators.
I'm just as bad though. I'm spreading rumors in these places about my chica on purpose. Every time we were kind of fighting the first thing I would do is go to Solid Gold and talk shit about her. Saying shes crazier and more tough than ever before. Man the girls ate it up and the rumors spread like wildfire.
Good times.
JustGotBack
08-23-06, 03:35
I stopped by there tonight with another forum member. We didn't pay entrada since the guy up front knows me. I got a beer and it was 40 pesos. From reading the forum though, entrada seems to be 35 pesos. So did I get ripped off for actually knowing the guy who controls the front door?
The place was packed with hotties. I chatted with 3 of them and they all started with 400. I tried negoitiating but they all said they couldn't go lower than 300. But they all went down to 300 instantly when I said 400 was too much. But even at 300 that's a little over 400 with all the drinks. Not worth it for me since I can get simliar quality women elsewhere for less. True other places are like finding gems among the rocks. But as long as you know where the gems are, you don't need a chest full of them.
There was a post a couple of months back saying Bobby was leaving to start his own club. I think I know who Bobby is. He's worked there since the beginning and he was working there tonight.
I came into Madahos yesterday (Sat) quite early, around 11:15. I did not expect the place to be packed, but neither did I expect it to be dead - when we (a friend and myself) entered, maybe 10 (or even less) chicas, and maybe 5 including us male guests. It filled up a bit until I left to meet a favorita around 12:30, buit still was far from what I knew. Chicas between 5 and 8.
Entrada A$R 40,-, including one drink, beer or domestic liquor. If drinking the latter, you have to add the cost of the aspirins you need the next morning. Imported Liquor costs extra.
The friend hooked up with a cute Dominicana and was quite happy this morning, so it seems that not all of them provide lousy service.
El Alemán
I was impressed by two things only at Madahos. The chicas and the decor. We arrived at about 12.30 one evening and paid the normal entrance fee, upon entering found the place to be about half full, more guys than girls but the girls that were there, were damn fine. Beautifully adorned in long flowing low cut (in the right places) gowns, tight fitting outfits dispaying their finest assets, overall a nice array of flesh. The strippers on stage were to die for, looks wise, their interpretation of erotic dancing was, however, somewhat tame. Overall the place was nicely laid out, somewhat smokey like most of these places, good lighting and adequate seating arrangements.
Over the next hour the place filled up with the ratio of girls to men changing for the better about 60% chica 40% hombres, and the talent just got better and better. With the waiters constantly plying us with delectable snacks we thought we had found heaven until we ordered our next round of drinks, 2 Quilmess (fondly renamed Killme's) 2 pepsis. Placed a $50 on the bar counter and got the funny look from the barlady, placed another $50, received the same unfriendly look, placed another $50, a brief nod and no change, $150 for a round of drinks! My protestations in english received a blank unfriendly response from behind the bar and I reluctantly departed back into the mass of delectable flesh. Unfortunately due to my load protestations in english future negotiations with nut twisting chicas was done in $ US from their end.
While I could quite happilly done all the chicas in the room, the prospect of spending my hard earned $ on rip off drinks left me kinda limp. In hindsight I would repeat again but will have to wait until my pension pays out!
"A Fool and his money are soon parted"
Exon
I don't think a chica has to go back in 30 minutes after 1 hour of service.
I have been whit A LOT of them from Madahos and most of the time they espend 2 hours whit me. No extra price. No extra charge for her.
The only way they got a "late" fee is when they DO NOT come back at all to pay the same day the comission of the house.
One week ago I took a blond girl to my appartment in Palermo Viejo, we spent the whole night and I had just to pay her the extra drink, she told me is what she needed to pay the house for not coming back.
We were so exausted that couldn't move out of the bed till next day afternoon.
So be carefull whit those smart greedy girls.
I made Madaho's my second stop tonight. Arrived about 12.30 in company of another well-known senior poster who desires to remain anonymous.
My dominant impression: This place was full of low-roller Portenos sipping their complimentary drinks (free after paying cover charge, of course) In fact, there were probably 2 men for every woman. And all of the Portenos trying - desperately - to get the girls to pay attention to them and their very thin bankrolls.
It sucks to be poor.
Dark, dark, dark. Rivaling the unloved "Cattos" for inability to see a damn thing. What you don't see is what you get, and if you're not careful it can be pretty rough.
But overall, surprisingly, I thought the quality was better than Black. This is probably a first for me to say this.
We skipped around the cover charge line. Being known Gringos helped us in this case. All the Portenos were lined up, counting out their 2 peso bills, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, etc. Trying to come up with the requisite fee. Quilmes cost 40 at the bar, Tanqueray and Tonic 45, virtually the same as at Black. At a table, the waitress said my T & T refill was 65 pesos. Was I ripped off? Who knows. She claimed only domestic gin cost 45. Believe me, you don't want to drink Argentine gin. It is fermented urine, strained through the jock straps of Boca Juniors. Pay the extra for English gin.
I made a point of buttonholing the best-looking chica in the place, a 5'9" brunette with natural tits, pleasant face, and a slim body. While she was eager to go out for some drilling tonight, she flatly refused when I asked for her telephone number so that I could call her for a date outside of working hours. Oh well, her loss. I didn't bother even discussing costs for sex tonight, as I was on a scouting mission. Plenty of resident mongers have told me the minimum price is now 300 pesos. I would have paid this for the tall brunette, but tonight was not the night for me.
In sum - this place is sure a lot of work. You have to work your way through the crowds of Portenos in order to get what you want. I didn't like the vibe of all these desperate guys trying to convince unwilling girls that their 100 peso offers were really worth taking. Watching some of these girls cut off these efforts and walk away was an entertaining sight. Some of the Portenos looked stunned, lost, and alone when the trixies stopped talking to them in mid-sentence, turned on a dime, and walked away.
Was there on a Monday night, just after midnight. First time this year. Very dark, lots of girls, but the quality is really down from a year ago. One hot Brazilian chica, but once she opened her mouth, half her teeth were reflecting the UV light, the rest not. Real turn-off, almost belonged in a horror flick. But if you don't have UV light at home, I suppose.
Overall, quite a disappointemnt compared to a year ago.
I thought it was 300 pesos. I went here tonight with a bunch of folks and it was really (I mean, really) crowded. I bided my time and finally spotted a very cute, slim, Brazilian girl. When I started talking to her she was very friendly and her face and body both up close failed to disappoint. She really was a hottie, to be sure.
She quoted me 600 pesos at first. She had the gall to tell me that she leaves with with Argentinos for 400, but 600 is her price for Americans, and it is not much money to me!
Eventually she came down to 500 pesos, but just would not budge past that, and by the time I gave up negotiations, it was past 4:30am, and the place was fast emptying out. I very much doubt she would have left with anyone paying that price. In fact, I didn't see a single free male as I was leaving.
Her name was Reynata.
There must have been a BIG sign on your forehead. They always try to charge 600-450. What you have to try next time is tell them you are living in BA, and if you can, Speak in spanish. If you can't speak spanish well, they will try to take advantage. And next time (this is what I do to cut the negociating short) Tell them you go to Madahos all the time and you never pay more than 250-300. And if worst comes to worst, reason with her. Tell her she can either go home with no money, or she can go home with 300 pesos. If she insists on going home with no money, what can you do, she is retarded anyway, either that, or she really didn't want to go out with you. I have had that issue at Black, some girls won't budge from the 150 dollar mark, but I have never had that issue at Madahos. They are 250-300 MAX. I think your main problem was telling them you are american. They will bleed you dry if they know that. I always studder a little when they ask me where I'm from, because I have to try to think of another country. Try Canada, or Australia, and if possible tell them you live in BA and you are a regular client at Madahos. That usually breaks them down pretty fast.
But thanks for posting her name, I will go their this week, Ask for the brazilian Renata, and I will report, how much I payed and what the service was like. And if possible I will get the number for yah;) I hope you have good taste.
Badboy
But thanks for posting her name, I will go their this week, Ask for the brazilian Renata, and I will report, how much I payed and what the service was like. And if possible I will get the number for yah;) I hope you have good taste.
BadboyBadboy, you are breaking his heart!
Renata is indeed the correct spelling.
The entire conversation was in Spanish, and I told her I've been in Argentina many times, though not a regular at Madahos. And that the price she was quoting me was a Black price, not a Madahos price.
By late evening when the prospects of going home without any money, the girls will go out and do it for 100 pesos.
Give them your offer and hold firm to it.
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Hi Short Rib,
With all due respect, in 5 years of visiting Madahos, I've never heard of or personally witnessed any chica lower her prices because it was late at night.
I've also never seen a chica in Madaho "going home without any money" because they almost always have earned at least 30 to 50 pesos for the drinks that were purchased for them on any given evening.
Thanks,
Jackson
A year ago I got a deep discount from a very hot chica at Black because it was getting late. I had determined to myself that I wasn't going to pay the original asking price, nor the original discount price. However, she did continue to sit with me on the couch and we had an interesting discussion about the boliche, and when it getting near closing time I told her something to the effect that "This conversation has been nice, but I'm going home. If you want to join me for 300 pesos you're welcome. Or you can go home alone."
I had to throw her out several hours later. Well, not exactly throw her out, but I suggested that she would want to be going home, and that I was going to sleep.
Quite a good lay she was. I don't remember her name, nor did I see her in the club on my most recent trip.
But the bottom line is, "late night" discounts can sometimes be had. But I don't think they're available on a regular basis, nor, as Jackson says, will a girl take an extreme low-ball just to make a hundred pesos. On my last visit to Madaho I saw lots of Portenos trying that tactic - unsuccessfully. Scroll down to see my most recent Madaho post.
The going rate at Madahos is 300 AR, I have been told by multiple hot girls that work there that they always give foreigners the " gringo " price. Meaning 600-450 AR. I have never paid more than 300 AR, and I usually get 1-3 hours out of them. I HAVE personally seen a few chikas lower their prices from 300 to 250 late in the night.
They either take the offer and make some money, or they end up going home without an extra 250 AR. Most will take a 50 peso pay cut. I have never tried this tactic out, but I have seen a porteno or two atempt it with limited success. The porteno only had 200 AR, so he got rejected, but I heard the girl accept 250 as her lowest fee. And the girl was a hottie, about 25 years old, blonde with great legs and a nice ass. So for sure she wasn't bottom of the barrel. The only problem I see with this tactic is you have to wait until 4:30 am and by then you will get whatever is left. But for those on a budget, this might help you save 50 pesos.
Badboy
Friday was pretty busy but not many good looking gals. Saturday was a little disappointing. Seems like the girls are all starting at 400 pesos. 40 entrance, 70 chica drink. Quality has gone really low.
Thomaso276
11-20-06, 00:08
For 400 pesos you can pull two girls from the triangle and their cover their drinks and your drink.
Somebody must be paying these crazy rates but it sure ain't the Argies or educated mongers. Maybe we should drop some flyers at the 4 Seasons and the Alvear Palace to let the big spenders know what is going on.
Like they would care while spending 300 - 350 dollars a night for the room.
Friday was pretty busy but not many good looking gals. Saturday was a little disappointing. Seems like the girls are all starting at 400 pesos. 40 entrance, 70 chica drink. Quality has gone really low.Friday and Saturday are always worse than Monday through Thursday. This is true in just about every club in BsAs.
Rockin Bob
11-20-06, 14:21
Friday and Saturday are always worse than Monday through Thursday. This is true in just about every club in BsAs.It's true here, it's true in Brazil. The best girls have other plans for the weekend, why should they work?
Tuesday thru Thursdays are the nights you want to go mongering.
Madahos prices: I was in there the other night and tried to get a girl down to 300 but she wouldn't go below 450. I have gotten girls out of there recently for 250, but 300 seems to be what you can generally negociate for.
Unfortunately, supply and demand, there's no shortage of men with big bucks to spend where 200 USD for a chica is peanuts. It's price versus volume. One high roller at 500 a shot is worth more than two ordinary guys at 250 or even 300, when you factor in the time and aggravation.
Usually waiting till almost closing time will get you substantial discounts but you may not have too much to choose from.
If the girl likes you, she'll be more likely to pull down her price a little but that also means having to listen to her tell you about her kids and so on.
Often the girls would pull their prices down but they don't want the other girls to know they are so desperate for money they will go out for any price. These girls go to some other place after the club closes where they can maybe make a few pesos before going home. Madelein - across the street to Exedra is one of these places. There are also many bars on Avda De Mayo that you'll find girls coming in at 4 or 5 am. I've seen girls unwilling to go out for less than 150 pesos from Catto's accepting 50 pesos at one of the Avda. De Mayo bars.
Dancesw/Chicas
11-20-06, 23:49
Anyone knows a chica name Elina. Also known as "La coneja" haha. She is a Madaho's regular, 5,7 height, fake blond hair. Usually wears a pants jacket office pin-striped suit.
She is one nice chica who is willing to negotiate a reasonable rate. Of course, the deal is only for the two parties to know.
DWC
Seems pricing is around 400 pesos for the better looking ones. 250-300 for the not so looking ones. There are only a handful of good lookers and they know it by the number of times they are asked. Seems some girls never get picked. I wonder how they live or why they continue to come. Anyways, there were some gringos paying excessive prices. One gringo, tall and big, was there everynight I went, bragging about pulling 2-3 girls a night at the same time.
Dancesw/Chicas
12-08-06, 12:52
I went to Madahos last night. Started to talk to Leyla, a 22-24 year old chica, morocha, thin, 5,8 with heels. Anyway, she said she charges 400 pesos. I responded with 250 pesos leaving with me inmediately. She said "You can take your 250 and walk out that door" (we were close to the entrance door). Anyway, I asked her Why so aggressive? She said she already told me 400 and that I should not be offering 250. I told her that she can just say "Thanks, but no thanks."
I mentioned this to the doormen and the cashier Gabi. They agreed w / me. That the chica does not have the authority to send people out the doors. Went I mentioned that I was leaving because of what this chica said, they were very concern. When I mentioned about posting this on Jackson's website, they wanted me to talk to the General manager. I told them that I just wanted to leave and forget about what happened.
Just for you guys information, they were some nice looking girls who accept it the 250 pesos offer. At this point I want to ask you all to do what I do when I read a bad report. Whenever I visit a place where one of you guys had reported an incident, I made a point to let them know that I aware of what happened with a "friend of mine" and that I don't want that to happen to me. This little act shows that one customer is more than just one individual in this age of information technology.
Of course, girls like Leyla don't know this fact. Could you imaging having your employees telling customers to walk out the door with their money?
DWC
Rock Harders
12-18-06, 05:05
Mongers-
Made a stop in Madahos last Wednesday night with my visiting cousin and uncle just to show them the crem de le crem on their first night in town. Both were very impressed with the available selection, as there had to be a minimum of 30 girls working, the majority very hot and doable. The cousin picked one out he liked, and I opened up the negotiations (he speaks very limited castellano) The chica, going by the name Cynthia (real named Maria as we would later find out) starts out by asking for $200 USD. I laugh in her face and explain that I live here and that nobody would ever pay her that, which she found rather insulting. My cousin wants to bang her so I tell her $300 AR take it or leave it and of course she takes it. We scoop up another girl, Guadaloupe, (same price) for the uncle and off we go back to my apartment.
Both the uncle and cousin had a good time, although Guadaloupe had an attitude when she emerged from the bedroom and I informed her that she would not be leaving until the hour was over. Description of girls: Cynthia, dyed blonde, light hazel eyes, tall very tight slim body, gaps between her front teeth. Guadaloupe, medium height, large fake tits, obviously fake dyed blonde hair, tan skin, dark eyes, obviously part indigenous, with a less than super tight body.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
•Kiara - Very beautiful dark skinned girl from Madahos. Straightened black hair. Beautiful eyes and face. She's from Dominican Republic. Her outfit at Madahos was an eye stopper – just a little strap of her dress covering each breast. Gave expert bbbj for a long time, I kept her for three hours and for about an hour of that she was sucking me. She likes being eaten; has a large clit and she will come if you suck on her the right way. Perfect sexy ass – I loved fucking her from behind looking at her ass. My hotel room had a big balcony; I took her out there and fucked her for a long time, looking over the city and her ass at the same time – she was leaning over the railing and I fucked the shit out of her. It was great. Came on her face on the balcony.
400 for 3 hours. She came back early next evening. She was pretty much the same, though she seemed a little distracted when not fucking. It was still nice to fuck her, but she didn't raise her game and so I repeat after that.
I met the half-Turkish / half-Spanish Dalila, she just oozes sexuality. She's got some nice tits, they do have some silicone, but look pretty damn good (yes, she'll show them to you if you're curious) She started groping me and making out with me at the bar. What a sweetheart. I'm pretty sure she could make me finish with a condom on, and that is saying something. I bought her a drink because I felt she deserved it for the naughty fun she was giving me. The bartender seemed a bit put off that I would not order a drink for myself (came in with Jackson so didn't pay a fee) but you know, I wasn't groping myself, the chick was. So I wasn't going to reward myself with a 40 peso beer when I clearly was not doing anything to deserve it.
I didn't take her home because I spotted an old girlfriend and wanted to do her instead, but I think I will go back and pull her on another night.
I also spotted Claudia, the gorgeous Brazilian, who won't go below 500 pesos, and whom I will not be sleeping with, except in my dreams. (In my dreams she is always much more friendly than I think she would be in real life, but if some other forum member knows differently, please share).
Daddy Rulz
01-11-07, 06:54
Took out Flabiana though after explaining that Flabby meant pansa in English she might be changing her name. Little spinner with fairly good fake tits. I told her 200 she asked for 600 and after laughing a while we settled on 300. Good time, she gave me her number which I deleted, I wouldn't repeat but it was OK.
Hey DR,
This quote seems to describe every experience I have ever had with any chica I pulled from there. Thus, I prefer the other 'lower' end clubs because service is at least as important as looks.
How long is your stay in BA this time? Are you exploring any more of your sick fantasies like last year:-)
I will be there in April, it would be great to meet up with you then.
I wouldn't repeat but it was OK.Suerte.
Stowe
Member #4112
01-12-07, 15:19
Elizabeth 32 years of age from Paraguay:
I have seen this girl in Madahos several times during my visits to BA, you can not miss her, she sits just to the right of the door when you enter and usually is wearing a "dress" that just covers her breasts (which are very nice IMHO) and wears her hair in a long platinum blond pony tail almost to her waist. Her English is very limited but she still gets the deal cut. Would not go below 400 pesos for 1 ½ hours but I was intrigued by the look and took one for boys to post this report. Offered DFK, DATY, CBJ and was very eager to please. While not a clock watcher she was ready to go shortly after I finished. Pretty sure she headed back to "work". Not GFE but close. Would recommend as she was pretty good eye candy during the session as well as providing competent service.
Captain9026
01-25-07, 05:00
Another little hard body Portena for the captain. This girl is a sweetie guys. She has small breasts but fantastic ass and legs. Smooth skin and totally rock hard flat stomach. All positions 3 times bbbj, great mutual masajes no completo. But another great time. She has short blond hair and just a sweet walk in her short white dress.
I took out a nice looking gal out of here my last trip and at the end of the session, I look at my piece and notice blood on my condom. I was a little pissed at the girl because I would like to know when a girl is on the rag. If she is, I will get another girl. Anyways, I noticed blood on the comforter and complain to her and tell her I am not into periods and show her the blood on the bed. She apologizes and said it just started after I was doing her. I am a little paranoid after the things I do to her, but figure she just started and send her off. Anyways, the next day I see her here and was wondering, "what the hell is she doing here today?" Don't girls take time off for their monthly cycle? Anyways, her friend approaches me to take her home again but I responded,"no way." I saw another monger take her and I felt a little sorry for the guy and the bloody surprise awaiting him.
Don't girls take time off? Has this happened to anyone else?
Has it happened to anyone else. Oh yes. It has happened to almost all of us at one time or another, and sometimes with very dependable chicas. Keep the hydrogen peroxide handy; it may save the day. One famous monger ended up buying a new mattress.
CountryCounter
01-25-07, 23:27
Happened to me once in Thailand. Most girls use birth control pills to suppress their menstration. Others use an absorbant sponge.
I took out a nice looking gal out of here my last trip and at the end of the session, I look at my piece and notice blood on my condom. I was a little pissed at the girl because I would like to know when a girl is on the rag. If she is, I will get another girl. Anyways, I noticed blood on the comforter and complain to her and tell her I am not into periods and show her the blood on the bed. She apologizes and said it just started after I was doing her. I am a little paranoid after the things I do to her, but figure she just started and send her off. Anyways, the next day I see her here and was wondering, "what the hell is she doing here today?" Don't girls take time off for their monthly cycle? Anyways, her friend approaches me to take her home again but I responded,"no way." I saw another monger take her and I felt a little sorry for the guy and the bloody surprise awaiting him.
Don't girls take time off? Has this happened to anyone else?
Daddy Rulz
01-26-07, 00:23
Same story, she said it just started. She may have been telling the truth though she was wearing white pants.
MiddleAgeGuy
01-26-07, 11:29
This has happened with me too many times in BA. A couple bad ones, many times just barely noticeable. My theory is that if they are close to their time, and you go at it, it can bring on the cycle.
Also happened to me. The chica wanted the lights low and after fucking and she left I turned on the lights and the sheets were just covered with blood.
Had to pay el dueno for new sheets. Luckily, the mattress was not damaged,
Pissed me off because I now realize why she wanted the lights low. From this point forward the lights STAY ON.
Suerte.
Stowe
I'm reading the posts below on Madahos and the sticker shock pricing. WTF?
I've been there several times over the past 3 months but for one reason or another just ended up taking in the scene. There was a chica one night who wouldn't budge off of 400 p but I thought I had just gotten unlucky. Lamentably this doesn't seem to be the case.
On a visit last night the first one was firm on an hour and at the transitorio next door, no apartments - never got to the price. The next, a newbie Paraguaya I struck a deal at 3 pm for an hour and a half for 200. At the apartment, half dressed and putting the money on the table it was U$200 which she argued she always got and her friends too. So far apart and pissed off I scrubbed the whole thing, taking her to the door.
None of this is a good sign. Maybe it's just the depth of summer and a shortage of chicas OR maybe Madahos has finally overrun Black. Add to that a surge, sorry, augmentation, of arrogant Americans who seem to be on the streets these nights and the times they may be a changing.
Bacchus, this is what I tried to point out a couple of months ago, that the prices at Madahos are definitely going up (someone helpfully replied I should learn to speak Spanish, thanks (sarcasm)).
To be honest guys, I go here at least once a week and I have to say 300 AR is about the average, you MIGHT find a chick that will go for 250 AR, but most will only go for 300, They all start with 600 AR if they think you are a foreigner, I tel them all the same thing, 300 is what I have always paid and for an hour that is all I will pay. If they are stuck on 400 Ar, negociate 2 hours out of them. If it is late in the night past 3 am, tell them you will give them 600 AR for TLN, 9 out of 10 girls will take it. Believe me, what I have learned about this is the average girl pulls out at best 1 client a day, some good ones pull out two, that means they are making between 300-600 AR for being there all night in a smokey crowded brothel. They get their between 11 and 12 and have to stay until 4 am. The majority would rather skip this BS and go out with a regular for 400-600 AR for TLN. All I am saying is your options are only limited by your creativity and your negociating skills. I usually pay for an hour 300 AR, I then get the number and do one of three things. I meet with the girls 3 hours before they have to go into work and get 2 hours out of them for the same price, or I pick them up for TLN after their shift for the same price or slightly more, or the best option is I tell them to skip the day off of work and I will pay them twice what they normaly make in a night for dinner and an all night fuck session (TLN)
Stick to your guns, make the offer and stick to it. If they are waiting for some other shmuck to come along and pay them double, what can you do. The only good thing about this place is there are usually 30-40 chicks here every night and I can usually have about 3 or 4 to choose from. If one says no, strike up a conversation with her hot girlfriend sitting next to her, make the deal for your initial asking price, leave with the girlfriend while the first girl watches, that will teach her.
The problem isn't the clubs, the problem is the average americano that comes here and treats these girls as if their pussies were dipped in platinum or something. You have to bring these girls down to earth sometimes, yeah some of them look like models, but so what, models are a dime a dozen. Stop worshipping these chicks and maybe their heads won't inflate to the point where they think their pussy is priceless and they are doing YOU the favor of fucking you.
Have fun,
Badboy
Rock Harders
01-29-07, 02:01
Mongers,
I paid a visit to this place last night (Saturday) with two fellow Buenos Aires resident mongers. A very weak showing, not many chicas, it is the summer after all and Saturday is the worst night anyway. However, the strip shows feature hot girls and they were mildly entertaining. A few price checks put the cost of doing business here at $300 AR. If you speak to the girls in spanish and they know you live in Buenos Aires they will not try any of that $200 USD nonsense. A few of the girls can be had out of here for $200 AR if it is late, you make it clear that you know the score, and the girl can imagine herself enjoying having sex with you. You always need to keep in mind that an Argentine would never pay more than $200 AR for a girl out of any of these places.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
Badboy,
You hit it on the head that too many Americanos (and probably Europeans) think the chicas pussies are made of gold.
Too often I think they think with their little head rather than the one that actually contains brain matter.
But I doubt that will change since many just post back that they don't care and will pay whatever price the chica holds to.
Suerte.
Stowe
"The problem isn't the clubs, the problem is the average americano that comes here and treats these girls as if their pussies were dipped in platinum or something. You have to bring these girls down to earth sometimes, yeah some of them look like models, but so what, models are a dime a dozen. Stop worshipping these chicks and maybe their heads won't inflate to the point where they think their pussy is priceless and they are doing YOU the favor of fucking you."
It is so funny to watch the predictable changes in a person's concerns and behaviour as they go from being a tourist to a resident. To me the above statement is TRULY ironic. Well, at least I can have some laughs as I chronicle the demise of BA as a monger destination.
Member #3314
02-12-07, 12:26
I went out with some guys from the board last night, we ended up at Madaho's.
I picked this one, there was slim pickings, but the big natural boobs did it for me.
She wanted 400, I got her to 250.
We go back to the apartment, I start to get her undressed and she asks for the money up front, and she wanted 300.
I broke out the spanish dictionary and pointed to "after", she found "before" and she wanted 300. I offered to show her the money (250) and even put it on the table down stairs, she replied with 300 again. All the red flags were there.
I promptly showed her to the door with the money in my pocket.
Watch out for this one.
Shame too she had some big C's maybe D's and they were real.
Good work, Member #3314. You were thinking with your big head, not your small one.
Daddy Rulz
02-12-07, 13:52
Good work, Member #3314. You were thinking with your big head, not your small one.On all things not political lately I find myself agreeing with Hunt. Beware, the sky may be falling soon.
Very good move Member #3314, not just for yourself but for all the mongers that follow behind you. Nobody has said it in a long time but this remains a buyers market, there is no shortage of good pussy here. The more guys that draw lines about this kinda shit, and the more times they go back to the club empty handed because of it, the less likely it's going to happen. Plus when they get to the club all of their friends are going to wonder why they came back so fast.
On all things not political lately I find myself agreeing with Hunt. Beware, the sky may be falling soon.
Very good move Krazy, not just for yourself but for all the mongers that follow behind you. Nobody has said it in a long time but this remains a buyers market, there is no shortage of good pussy here. The more guys that draw lines about this kinda shit, and the more times they go back to the club empty handed because of it, the less likely it's going to happen. Plus when they get to the club all of their friends are going to wonder why they came back so fast.Politics doesn't belong on this board - your comment shows precisely why. Of course Jackson allows a limited amount of it, and I indulge myself in it on occasion, but the end product typically is not enlightenment or civilized discussion.
The chica doubtless went back to Madaho's with some cock-and-bull story about how "that guy tried to cheat me and didn't want to pay," potentially making things difficult for Krazy Glue on his next visit. But they're all not stupid - and as you say DR, it truly is a buyers' market.
Member #3314
02-12-07, 15:13
She did not go back, Madaho's was closed by then, I pulled her at the end of the night.
She went home sin peso's.
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Hi Member #3314,
It doesn't matter if she didn't go back that night, it's a sure bet that she promulgated the same false story about you the next evening.
I always recommend that when you have a situation such as the one that KG had that you always accompany the chica back to the same club. That way she's in a much more difficult position to spread her twisted version of the story given that you, the supposed guilty perpetrator, is standing right there at the bar having a drink with another chica.
Thanks,
Jackson
All of this begs the point that that does NOT look to me to be a 250 peso chica, much less 400 or even 300.
Combine that with 40 peso drinks for you and 60-80 peso drinks for her and I can't help but wonder why you guys keep encouraging chicas like that when there are hotter and prettier girls for available for half that (or less, even in some privados, for goodness sake)!
I know it ain't gonna happen, but Madahos needs to be boycotted until they get back to reality (which of course I know in my heart will never happen!)
Too bad - it used to be a GREAT place... sigh!
David
If you ask me you were smart to show her the door. But from her side of it I know a few working girls and most everyone of them at sometime or another has gotten taken by the "I'll pay after" story. So while I totally agree with the "pay after" concept I am understandable to her side of the problem. As for changing the price you were once again smart showing her the door. This kind of BS along with the "tip" concept that many try to pull always pissed me off. Tip for what? They agreed on a price and you paid it. What's the tip for? Not taking your pants on the way out? And by the way what were you thinking offering her 250p? I don't care how big her tits were she was far from a looker. In the future I'd recommend you follow the "don't drink and drive" policy. But in this case "when lookin for a ride don't drink".
I went out with some guys from the board last night, we ended up at Madaho's.
I picked this one, there was slim pickings, but the big natural boobs did it for me.
She wanted 400, I got her to 250.
We go back to the apartment, I start to get her undressed and she asks for the money up front, and she wanted 300.
I broke out the spanish dictionary and pointed to "after", she found "before" and she wanted 300. I offered to show her the money (250) and even put it on the table down stairs, she replied with 300 again. All the red flags were there.
I promptly showed her to the door with the money in my pocket.
Watch out for this one.
Shame too she had some big C's maybe D's and they were real.
All of this begs the point that that does NOT look to me to be a 250 peso chica, much less 400 or even 300.
Combine that with 40 peso drinks for you and 60-80 peso drinks for her and I can't help but wonder why you guys keep encouraging chicas like that when there are hotter and prettier girls for available for half that (or less, even in some privados, for goodness sake)
I know it ain't gonna happen, but Madahos needs to be boycotted until they get back to reality (which of course I know in my heart will never happen!
Too bad - it used to be a GREAT place. Sigh!
DavidAfter viewing Member #3314's chica picture I would say she's definetly not a 300 peso chica or for that matter 250, but I like his taste in boobs, she appears to have a nice set.
I've pulled 5 or 6 chicas from Newport and the most I ever paid was 250 once, the rest were 200. My opinion is you can easliy find as good if not better quality here without much hagling. Plus there's no chica drink required and your drink's only 13 pesos.
Pie
Member #3314
02-13-07, 03:00
Wow.
I did not realize I would be flamed by the price police for trying to warn everyone about a snatchy *****.
Sorry I have only been here a few days, I guess my mongering skills are not up to par.
I am done posting here.
I for one am thankfull for your post. Some people are always going to complain about who you picked or how much you paid. I am glad you did not let here take control of the deal. She probably knows people want to play with those love mounds and can squeeze some more money out of them before they get to do the squeezing. I hope you can find a nice pair of boobies to have fun with before you leave. Happy hunting. Puma
Wow.
I did not realize I would be flamed by the price police for trying to warn everyone about a snatchy *****.
Sorry I have only been here a few days, I guess my mongering skills are not up to par.
I am done posting here.KG.
I was not really flaming you, more of a flame for Madahos which used to be a GREAT club and now is not.
That being said you can take your whiney little remark about "price police" and put it where the sun don't shine, buster. Anyone who has been in BsAs longer then a year, much less 4 or 5 as some of us have, knows perfectly well what has happened to clubs in general and Recoleta clubs in particular, and while you can try to deny (as many do) that willingness to overpay for both drinks, chica drinks, and chicas themselves has no effect on the GROSS increase in prices, that is just being foolish.
IMHO, you handled the situation properly, but it was a situation you shouldn't have been in to begin with!
Saludos,
David
MiddleAgeGuy
02-13-07, 09:42
Great post and a show of strength that I don't know I would have had for a 50 peso difference when she's on the bed in all her splendor. KG, everyone gets a jolt on the board from time to time, I wouldn't sweat it.
With the greatest respect Cpt. Madaho has the highest number of girls and the highest percentage of good lookers / big and little asses / big and little pechos / petite and full bodies, whatever you are into these days. On a short stay basis, your chances of picking one up there as opposed to roaming around from club to club for a good portion of the night looking for Ms. Right are pretty good.
I am totally with you however on the distasteful rise in prices at Madaho but there is inflation creep at all the places. It is different when you do not live here and have a limited amount of time to partake. For a new guy in town, KG has surpassed what took me 2 years of on and off visits here in negotiating skills.
I for one overpaid at Madaho the other night but succumbed to one I was curious about for some time. Starts with an M close to Melani. I was not diappointed. All was offered without asking, and I mean ALL, + an invite to hang out the next day and see what comes UP. I'm sure it was one of those YMMV situations.
Thomaso276
02-13-07, 10:26
Eiher the photo is not flattering or Grace is about the ugliest 400 peso chica I have seen in awhile.
The Recoleta clubs are turning into pure tourist attractions, kinda like the 10 dollar ice cream at Disney. If some follks would just do a little research they would have a better time and a better value.
Rock Harders
02-13-07, 10:34
Member #3314, Capt Dave, et all-
First of all $300 AR is basically the standard price at Madahos these days, and the fact of the matter is that Madahos has consistantly the hottest girls of all the Recoleta clubs. In addition, there is no accounting for taste, so people should not bash this guy for choosing the best in his taste of what he admitted was slim pickings. If you walk into Madahos expecting to pull a chica out, expect to pay $300 AR, if you get a girl for less, you got lucky. Granted out of 50 chicas at Madahos, 20 might be really hot, but I bet you will not find 20 hot girls at any of the other clubs. Member #3314 is a newer guy reporting a warning about a bad apple to the forum membership, and you get old bitter cheap dickheads like Captain Dave (no offense) bashing him and in effect totally discouraging his participation in the forum. This forum will become irrelevant without periodic new infusions of fresh opinions and perspectives of members who actually post about their experiences. I'd wager that the owner of this forum, a Madahos regular himself, would agree with me on this.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
AllIWantIsLove
02-13-07, 12:19
I'd guess that most people appreciated your post even if they haven't said so. If everyone here who has ever been flamed stop posting there would be no one left!
Bob
Wow.
I did not realize I would be flamed by the price police for trying to warn everyone about a snatchy *****.
Sorry I have only been here a few days, I guess my mongering skills are not up to par.
I am done posting here.Nobody has flamed you, KG - but you have to live with the fact that some people won't share your opinions. So long as they do it without attacking you, and I don't think Capt Dave or Cowpie did, you ought to just to accept their comments and move on.
If you want to see some flaming, use the search function and look up threads where "Hunt99" and "DaddyRulz" both appear.;)
Daddy Rulz
02-13-07, 13:56
Attribute it to the fact that those of us who have been coming here for a long time remember when the girl in the photo you posted would have had a hard time getting a job in a privado, let alone working in an upscale club like Madaho. This is not meant as a critisizim of your tastes Krazy, it is your money and spend it as you wish, we all have different tastes in women, me spinners, hopefully with well done breasts. Other guys like a woman with more experiance etc. Etc.
I was in Madaho with a Monger new to BsAs two weeks ago and some really fat chick and I do mean REALLY fat, this guy liked them a little bigger, countered with 600 when I hit her at 200 and she wasn't moving. 4 years ago she would have been sweeping up condoms in a tello, so I told her that. Needless to say she was not amused.
I just remember when that place was packed with hard bodied hotties for 150 and now they are pushing 400. As Dirk says 300 can be had, but now it's bargaining to 300. I appreciate you holding to principle and please keep posting.
Hey KG,
Don't sweat the small stuff. Every now and then some of the older fellas get a bit cranky. Don't we all. If you're still in BA and looking to get this poor experience out of your system, may I make a small suggestion. Either order takeout from Maipu 359 (either Romina or Camilla, 100 peso) or call Roxanna and order Alexa in for a spin (200 peso plus cab) You'll find Alexa's photos in Rox's section. Both options should put a smile back on your face. My first choice would be Alexa. She has never failed to ring the bell in my experience. Good Luck and happy mongering. T
KG,
Like I said before I appreciate your post. Some of the regulars don't like it because it means they have to pay more. If they would read the forum prices are up everywhere in BA, pizza, video rentals, food, hotels. It is not the tourists driving up those prices, it is the economy. BA is a great place, no one wants to see it as another big city, London, Paris etc. If pricing keeps going it will be the end of great mongering, we will have to settle for just good mongering. So until then, enjoy it while it lasts.
Puma
Daddy Rulz
02-13-07, 16:44
KG; Like I said before I appreciate your post. Some of the regulars don't like it because it means they have to pay more. If they would read the forum prices are up everywhere in BA, pizza, video rentals, food, hotels. It is not the tourists driving up those prices, it is the economy. BA is a great place, no one wants to see it as another big city, London, Paris etc. If pricing keeps going it will be the end of great mongering, we will have to settle for just good mongering. So until then, enjoy it while it lasts. PumaPete,
I would have to respectfully disagree, overpayment for marginal pussy by drunk guys here for a short time is the driving factor behind inflation in the Recoletta clubs, which is the reason that I sent cuddos to Krazy. If you guys here for short times don't think this is as true today as it was 3 years ago when we started screaming about the increase to 300. Just wait until your here next year having your 80 peso beer in Madahos and a fat girl looks at you with a str8 face and says 1200 pesos.
I don't think there is anything that can be done to stop it. I myself grossly overpaid on my be-day, it was perfect pussy but the fact remains that I did it. It was my be-day and it was the pussy I wanted and that was more important to me than the price. Guys come here for only a few days and time is more valuable than money. The only thing I ask anymore is that you don't hunt in the center and overpay.
KG,
First of all, I did NOT mean to flame you! If I had I would like to think you would still be smelling the burning hair. I DID resent your comment about the "price police" as if I had some personal agenda here, which I don't since I haven't been in Madahos in well over a year, and don't expect to EVER go back except perhaps as a visitor to show some newbe what is left of what was once a REALLY good club, in what is left of what used to be a REALLY nice neighborhood.
Inflation is here, you betcha, but the price increases in the Recoleta clubs have WAY exceed the rate of inflation. What used to be 10 or 15 peso admission (or drinks) is now 40 or 50, chica drinks were 20 pesos and now are 60 or 80, and chicas who used to be HAPPY with 150 pesos now want 4,5 or even 600.
This is what I object to most, since obviously what they (both the clubs AND the chicas) are doing is looking for the ceiling and won't stop until they find it.
That's my beef - not you, bro!
Saludos,
David
My intent wasn't to flame but to share my experience at Newport for some reason I like shopping there. The fact that you sent that chica packing warmed my heart. I've only had to do the same once, mainly because I was half drunk and she turned into a *****. It kinda felt good to take a stand and send a hottie on her way and hear that door slam.
Pie
I understand what you are saying. My point is what Capt Dave said, it is not just the chicas but the clubs increasing prices. I will be there in April and you don't have to worry about me, I don't plan on going to the Recoleta clubs. At that price someone else can have them. I plan on getting the best deals I can find. Besides I like to dig to find the treasures. On April 3rd Puma will kick off the Blonde ambition tour. Until then happy hunting to all.
Prices tend to go up when supply dwindles. Given that the Argentina Chica farm system continuously brings in new talent, not to mention the great talent from Paraguay, the only reason prices have gone up so much is not due to supply and demand it is due to gringos refusing to walk away and resist OVERPAYING. While I do not live there I know that I can impact the prices for those living there, gringos and locals. That is something I won't do.
And the fact that other mongers post that THEY can get lower prices (simply by resisting, negotiating and doing a bit of club hopping) implies that inflation is NOT the primary cause to the chica price increases.
If myself and others on this forum were as self-centered as some who have then mentality "I don't care if I overpay and possibly negatively impact others" we would not be so willing to provide information and assistance to newbies.
Suerte.
Stowe
P.
If myself and others on this forum were as self-centered as some who have then mentality "I don't care if I overpay and possibly negatively impact others" we would not be so willing to provide information and assistance to newbies.The suggestion that the posters on this board are responsible for the increase in the prices in Madaho is absolutely ridiculous. The readers of this board constitute.000000001% of Madaho's customers.
Let's not make excuses for abusing other members because we don't like the price that they pay. Because that's what it often comes down to with "The Price Police." For the past few months there has been an absence of this kind of judgmental behavior, and there's no need for it to return. The amount that a guy spends on his fun is his business - you can offer suggestions but you should not cross the line and piss and moan that he's causing you to pay more. That's total BS.
It is yahoo, head-up-there-asses tourist that drive up the prices for the girls plain and simple. Up go the prices, down goes the quality. It happens over, and over again and you still have morons talking about how it is the booming economy. There are guys on this board who don't even have the balls to throw a chick out of their own place for god's sake. Ridiculous!
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Hi Big Bob 7,
I guess I'll get the argument started by stating that I believe that this entire argument is overstated, primarily because don't think the tourists represent a large enough percentage of the overall market for sexual services here in BA to have any appreciable effect on the pricing. The fact is that the scene here in BA is setup to serve the Argentinos, not tourists. However, I think many tourists mistakenly perceive Buenos Aires as having the same economic dynamics as places such as Costa Rica, the Philippines and Thailand, all of which are places where the tourists are the primary customer group, and where their purchasing behavior can and does effect the market. In contrast, I doubt that tourists here represent more than 5% of the overall market, a percentage that simply cannot have any appreciable influence on the local prices. By way of example, just go into Madahos and do a head count. All protestations aside, the majority of their customers are Argentinos, not tourists.
Flame Away!
Thanks,
Jackson
Jackson said it correct. In Thailand (where I will be right before I go to BA) The tourist market is a big influence on pricing so much so that in Dec. Jan. Feb. (high season) the price can go up 50-100%. Everyone knows it. That is all you see is tourists. No locals. I'm sure there are chicas in BA who think they can big money all the time, no problem throw them back. Just like the vendors at the market some you can't get to budge on the price. Smile and keep walking. For me that is half the fun when they call you back and agree to your price. Just my 1 baht of observation.
For the past few months there has been an absence of this kind of judgmental behavior, and there's no need for it to return. Look who is labeling others judgemental, Mr. Judgemental and Mr. Flame himself. Seems a bit hypocritical.
Stowe
In contrast, I doubt that tourists here represent more than 5% of the overall market, a percentage that simply cannot have any appreciable influence on the local prices.
You are right when you say that tourists represent a small percentage of the overall market (although I would guess that the percentage of tourists present in Madahos does NOT equal the percentage of girls who leave with tourists rather then locals) but none-the-less that is not the problem.
There has developed a 3-tier pricing structure.
1) Locals.
2) Residents and tourists who speak Spanish and understand "the scene"
3) Non-Spanish or "limited-Spanish" speaking tourists.
The problem, at least for you and me, is that group 3 over-spending has resulted in chicas who say things like my ex-favorita in Cattos "I can't accept less then 100 dollars from an American", or the 36 year old (English speaking) chica who decided she was VIP level only (in spanish VIP means"only screw clueless Americans) and would not even take 100 bucks, as in her mind that was still "poca plata"
Since the line between group 2 and 3 is somewhat fuzzy (especially when viewed from ChicaLand) the price of pussy in ANY club that caters to even some tourists has skyrocketed for all of us, with a decline in quality-of-experience. The days when chicas here liked to f**k have been largely replaced by chicas collecting high-priced scalps (with exceptions of course, but fewer and fewer all the time)
For this reason, many "veterans" have stopped posting reviews of any kind. We have NO desire to have our new fishing holes pissed in by a bunch of guys who don't understand the importance (to us, at least) of them "following the rules"
Being referred to as "Price-Police" makes me even less willing to share - what a foolish and ungrateful way to repay those who bestowed the knowledge that has saved so many mongers from being cheated and robbed for not understanding (or believing) how it works here. I have found several new privados that have several pretty girls for reasonable prices, and I cringe whenever some newbe stumbles into one and decides to raise the bar all on his own. Bars, especially in Argentina are EASY to raise and practically impossible to lower.
So here's the solution. As Nancy Reagen put it "Just say No". I realize that's about as tough for a stimulated monger to do as not taking that shot of smack is for a junkie, but try, for gods sakes, to hold your ground. The immediate benifit is that the girls who do give in to your taking control will almost always respond with a better performance.
You may not like it, but youse new guys have done WAY more to push up the price of pussy for all of us then even Kirchners fine economic policies!
OK, off my soapbox, perhaps for the last time.
David
Daddy Rulz
02-16-07, 04:23
And I am interested in the answers from people. If the tourists with little time and lots of dollars are not driving up the price 400% in the Recolleta clubs and it's only a function of inflation. Then why have we not seen the same percent rise in price downtown or in privados?
Before anybody goes off on the toothless hag thing, I grant that the median is higher at La Lopez, Black, Madaho etc. So prices should be somewhat higher, but 3-4xs?
I'm not an economist, I'm not blasting anybody nor am I telling anybody what they should pay your money is your money. It just seems to me that if it's not the concentration of tourists in those clubs then the %'s would be the same. I refer to the laws of Chicaland, "the most anybody they know has ever been paid becomes the normal price".
Seriously if there is something I'm missing by comparing the % increase like this please enlighten me.
Capt and Daddy. We get your point but it is not the few on the board who overpay that are the reason the prices are going up. You keep blaming or flaming the people here who have over paid once or twice. You say they should say no but the clubs charge more to enter and yet people still pay that charge, also chica drinks. I sure the locals are saying the same thing. You say eliminate # 3, the locals say eliminate #2 and #3 and they will be happier and they can get the girls for 100 like the good old days. If you think it is us dumb tourists are driving up the price then stand in front of the clubs hand out pamplets with the rules for chica management to the masses. Vox populi. Good luck.
Very smart post Puma, and very good way to put things into perspective. I say to each his own. Pay what you want, try not to overpay, but don't be afraid to spend your money how you want to. The only person who has the right to tell me how to spend my money is the one helping me make it.
Quick recap.
Privados 100 AR 30 minutes, 150 AR 1 hour.
Take out from privados 150-200 AR.
Websites 150-300 AR.
Area VIP 200-400 AR.
Madahos 300 AR.
Black 300-600 AR.
Stay within your tax bracket And you should be fine. I have personaly stopped going to all privados, so Dave you can breathe a sigh of relief. I only do Madahos and the ocasional web girl, fsio.
I wouldn't dictate prices to anyone, I would just advise people on what the going rate is at each individual establishment. If you "feel" like spending 200 US, go to Black, if you "feel" like spending 150 AR, go to a privado or check the internet. Do as you will, just try not to spend more than the going rate at any place.
Bad
And I am interested in the answers from people. If the tourists with little time and lots of dollars are not driving up the price 400% in the Recolleta clubs and it's only a function of inflation. Then why have we not seen the same percent rise in price downtown or in privados?
Before anybody goes off on the toothless hag thing, I grant that the median is higher at La Lopez, Black, Madaho etc. So prices should be somewhat higher, but 3-4xs?
I'm not an economist, I'm not blasting anybody nor am I telling anybody what they should pay your money is your money. It just seems to me that if it's not the concentration of tourists in those clubs then the %'s would be the same. I refer to the laws of Chicaland, "the most anybody they know has ever been paid becomes the normal price".
Seriously if there is something I'm missing by comparing the % increase like this please enlighten me.You don't see the same rise of prices of chica services outside Recoleta for the same reason you don't see the same rise of prices in apartment or restaurant prices outside Recoleta: Many porteños want to "see and be seen" in that trendy neighborhood. A question of perception of status.
After all. Why paying a bife the chorizo 50 or 100% more in a very crowded, difficult to park area when you can enjoy the same quality in any other neighborhood, parking at the door? Same for an apartment that costs USD 100,000 with 700 sqft in Recoleta versus a USD 90,000 one of 1000 sqft + parking in Villa Urquiza.
Andres
For the brief, concise " cheat sheet "!
Best Regards.
Smuler
My position in this matter is kind of "Salomonic": I agree with Jackson that tourists don't drive prices up, but also agree with Dave that "dumb tourist" attitudes impact on prices and quality of services.
Basically, middle-class and up Argentinos have more money than just after the 2001 crisis, and they positively make over 95% of the monger pool. If you read the local boards, you will see that many guys dream about going to Madahos and recommend it whenever a guy from Córdoba, Santa Fé or any other province visits the city.
That said, chicas know that some tourists pay outrageously high prices, so when they see 2 or 3 foreign fishes swimming on the lounge, they tend to believe that such guys are those once-a-year-lucky-strikes, so they tend to get their attention while shooting down guys who they know that won't pay over ARS 300. Please remember that this is based on PERCEPTIONS, not on consumer research performed by a consulting company (see observation #2 below)
Please don't lose sight of the following issues:
1) Many argentinos, as much witty and Spanish-fliuent as they are, still think with their small heads. They make dumb decisions on picking girls based on their hormonal levels of that time rather than taking things cool. Also, many argentinos have small windows of opportunities to visit places such as Madahos (NOT privados, where you can go during office time) as many tourists have. Sure, they live there, but they may have only once in a month the opportunity to escape from wife surveillance from 11 PM to 3 AM.
Briefly, don't take for granted that an Argentino always knows how to control these chicas.
2) There is perhaps a cultural "deformation" from many of the North American participants of this forum, so I ask you please don't take it personally the following opinion.
Why insisting in analyzing this issue based 100% on pure market dynamics?
Guys, you are NOT dealing with ISO 9000 certified service providers who perform sound market research in order to discover long-term trends. You are dealing with chicas, who may experience one or many of the following issues:
- They aren't in the mood for pretending to be nice to a stranger that night, so they may ask more to compensate their lack of encouragement.
- A "favorita" may not like the fact that his client is seeing her too often, so they rise prices to get rid of him.
- She wants to stop working as SP as fast as possible, regardless if she is making 10X the amount she can do at a normal job, so they start asking ridiculous prices to see if such strategy shortens their stay at Madahos by a few months.
- They are resented of the fact that they couldn't fulfill their dream of marrying a rich guy, or they may be resented of having dreamed about being the new Shakira holding a microphone at the Grammy awards but they ended up holding dicks to perform BJs. This type of girls are "traumatized" and try to get advantage regardless of the nationality or their mood that night.
The list goes on and on. You get my idea: Don't put too much weight on market economics.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Let me get this straight.
Hunt posts that he wants the "Price Police" to stop posting. Let me understand this. It is ok for him to "Police" (or attempt to silence) the "Price Police" but it is not ok for the PP to voice their opinion. At least he is consistent in his attitude. I guess only he is allowed to post his opinion and those that agree with him. That attitude seems fair to me!
He also states those that overpay at best fractionally impact the market. I have had a couple of chicas tell me that there are guys that will pay them 300 or 400 pesos so she won't lower her prices. It is clear that overpaying does impact pricing whether those that do it want to admit it or not.
Perhaps those that overpay without regard to the negative impact to others are the type that don't give a damn about anyone other than themselves. Basically, it is all about them. And if they have a lot of money and others do not, screw those that don't. If the others can't afford pussy, tough shit.
JMO.
Suerte.
Stowe
Daddy Rulz
02-16-07, 13:00
You don't see the same rise of prices of chica services outside Recoleta for the same reason you don't see the same rise of prices in apartment or restaurant prices outside Recoleta: Many porteños want to "see and be seen" in that trendy neighborhood. A question of perception of status.
After all. Why paying a bife the chorizo 50 or 100% more in a very crowded, difficult to park area when you can enjoy the same quality in any other neighborhood, parking at the door? Same for an apartment that costs USD 100,000 with 700 sqft in Recoleta versus a USD 90,000 one of 1000 sqft + parking in Villa Urquiza.
AndresWith my understanding of Argentinos this makes perfect sense. Style over substance, if a man is successful enough to hunt pussy there then he is a successful man.
Badboy, I think your privado numbers were high but otherwise thats a great cheatsheet as smuler said.
Pete I didn't flame or blame anyone, I asked a question. Spend your money as you wish, I only ask that folks don't overpay in the downtown area where I spend my time and I ask that nicely. Well I did tell that one guy I was gonna cave his skull in with a brick if he paid the russian chick at excedra 250 pesos but those were special circumstances. I wanted to cave his head in anyway because he was a dick.
Thanks again Andres.
If you think it is us dumb tourists are driving up the price then stand in front of the clubs hand out pamplets with the rules for chica management to the masses.PP.
At the risk of becoming redundant, I will repost some of the more important "rules" for those of you who may need to be reminded.
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Gentlemen:
Many of you have come to realize that chicas live in a parallel universe that in many respects is similar to ours, but differs in several important ways.
In an effort to help my fellow travelers negotiate the perilous waters of the ChicaLand reefs, I have attempted to put to paper some of the basic rules that apply when you make the mystical journey to the land that these girls live in.
Here are some of the most important rules by which you are expected to live:
The Laws of ChicaLand.
1) Anything you say, might have said, could possibly have said, or would have said if you thought of it, can and will be used against you in any argument for the rest of your life.
2) Anything any other chica tells her about you is true.
3) Anything she says is only true for as long as she wants it to be, after which she may simply deny saying it and it will never have happened.
4) Gifts are not to be confused with the money you owe her for fucking you.
5) Any money she gets in her hands is hers, therefore money she receives for any reason may be used by her for any other reason she deems necessary, in which case you are obligated to give her more money for the original purpose.
There is no such thing as change, repayment, or debt.
6) Once you have had sex with her, or even thought about having sex with her, you may not have sex with any other chica EVER without incurring her wrath (and therefore owing her a "forgiveness fee")
If you go to a club where she is working and discover she is with someone else, you are expected to wait your turn quietly, without making either a fuss or glancing at any other chica until she is available (which may not be for hours, or even several days - no importa!)
7) The value of her services is determined by the most she was ever paid by anyone for anything for any amount of time, plus a cost-of-living increase.
Of course, The exception to this is if she knows, or knows of, or has heard of (see rule 2) a friend who once was paid more then that, in which case her value is that figure plus the percentage increase because her friend is just a puta and not worth as much as she is!
The cost of her taxi is likewise determined by the most she has ever paid a taxi in her life.
8) Time translations: There is temporal vortex in ChicaLand, which re-defines our traditional concepts of time calculation:
1 hour.
A) As a measure of when she has to do something (I. E. arrive at your apt.) 1 hour means sometime today.
B) As a measure of time-on-the-job, it means until either you come or she gets tired (or bored.)
2 hours.
A) As a measure of when she has to do something (I. E. Arrive at your apt.) 2 hours means sometime much later today.
B) As a measure of time-on-the-job, 2 hours means basically the same as 1 hour except you owe her more money.
Right Away = Sometime in the next few hours.
This afternoon = Before midnight.
Tonight = Before dawn.
All night (TLN) = Just after the sun rises in some part of the world.
And of course.
Tomorrow =?
The concept of tomorrow DOES NOT EXIST in Chicaland - The closest concept that does exist may be loosely translated to mean "someday before the end of the world".
The language spoken by ChicaLanders needs to be understood by those of us who wish to deal with the denizens of CL without disrupting the Force, so.
9. Many words, and even the concept of those words, either don't exist or have very different meanings to CL residents (and therefor visitors!)
i.e.
Logic:
This concept does not seem to exist, and has been replaced by a new system of reason I refer to as "Flexi-Think", which has the advantage of leaving almost the entire left-brain area available for storage of erroneous facts.
Consequences:
Since this concept frequently requires the existence of "tomorrow" (see rule 8) it exists, at best, only in theory for CL residents. For non-residents it usually has a much more immediate meaning and therefore does apply.
Birthdays:
ChicaLanders may declare a "birthday tomorrow" at any time, without incurring an age penalty. This is allowed because of the CL definition of Tomorrow (see rule 8)
Non-residents ignoring these birthdays run the risk of having to pay a "forgiveness fee" to normalize relations.
(NOTE - this fee may sometimes be payed in negotiable commodities other then cash)
Boyfriend ("Novio"):
This title may be applied to any non-resident that a resident has had sex with more then once. In this usage however, it is an honorary title only, but does allow you the priveledge of giving her gifts, as well as more money for less sex (see rule 4)
It should be noted that "real" (I. E. Resident) ChicaLand novios are NEVER seen in public, as they are back home (traditionally drinking and watching TV) waiting for her to come home and give him all the money she made today before attempting (frequently successfully) to impregnate her.
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Several other important rules were subsequently posted by other forum users, and you are all encouraged to read (or re-read) them.
Saludos!
David
I will keep paying all the Madahos girls the 300 pesos they are asking. That way I know that I am assured of having one club where I can go in and have my choice of beautiful women without having to fight with all you 150 peso guys trying to scoop up the action. It's all supply and demand, when I demand, I want a good supply to choose from. All I ask for is for just one club. I promise that once outside Madahos I will pay whatever price you want, but that club is mine. Just me and all my porteno friends that I can outspend. Is that too much to ask for, just let me keep Madahos.
Dave, Jackson, see you guys next month. This time Dave I may even get you into my club. I'll even pick up the difference between the 150 you are used to paying and the 300 I pay just so you to can choose from my lovely stable of women.
Actually the only thing that ever bothers me is paying the 60 pesos for the little cup of apple juice that the girls get. What the hell, I like the atmosphere and it's clean and comfortable.
Some of you guys take this whole mongering thing way too seriously.
SexMachine
02-16-07, 14:11
Although I agree with almost all the rules Dave has posted, I do not agree with # 6. I got back from BsAs 2 weeks ago and while I was there, I frequented the same clubs picking different girls every night, in front of the girls I took home in the earlier nights and it was never a problem and all the girls were pretty nice to talk to when I visited next time.
One girl even tried to set me up with the other girl when I told her that I wasn't interested in her.
Mind you, that doesn't mean that lots of other girls won't get upset.
Just sharing my experience.
SM.
P. S. I want to thank Dave, Jackson, Felipe, Tony and everybody else I met during my visit. Although, the party at the mansion could have gone a lot better than it did but it was still nice to spend some time at the mansion with everybody. I am planning to come back real soon.
The suggestion that the posters on this board are responsible for the increase in the prices in Madaho is absolutely ridiculous. The readers of this board constitute.000000001% of Madaho's customers.
Let's not make excuses for abusing other members because we don't like the price that they pay. Because that's what it often comes down to with "The Price Police." For the past few months there has been an absence of this kind of judgmental behavior, and there's no need for it to return. The amount that a guy spends on his fun is his business - you can offer suggestions but you should not cross the line and piss and moan that he's causing you to pay more. That's total BS.
Let me get this straight.
Hunt posts that he wants the "Price Police" to stop posting. Let me understand this. It is ok for him to "Police" (or attempt to silence) the "Price Police" but it is not ok for the PP to voice their opinion. At least he is consistent in his attitude. I guess only he is allowed to post his opinion and those that agree with him. That attitude seems fair to me!
He also states those that overpay at best fractionally impact the market. I have had a couple of chicas tell me that there are guys that will pay them 300 or 400 pesos so she won't lower her prices. It is clear that overpaying does impact pricing whether those that do it want to admit it or not.
Perhaps those that overpay without regard to the negative impact to others are the type that don't give a damn about anyone other than themselves. Basically, it is all about them. And if they have a lot of money and others do not, screw those that don't. If the others can't afford pussy, tough shit.
JMO.
Suerte.
StoweStowe, I said what I said.
I didn't say what you say I said, you dumb fuck.
Clear?
PP.
Gentlemen:
Many of you have come to realize that chicas live in a parallel universe that in many respects is similar to ours, but differs in several important ways.
DavidBrilliant! And hellishly accurate (based on my own experience in never never land).
Sorry I missed the original post!
Polvo
Thanks to Capt and BB for your lists. Information is important. People who have it think everyone knows it. In Europe and here in the United States people are not used to bargaining for anything, everything is a set price. People will pay more for the same item at the place where they want to be seen. That is why everyone I know is in debt and cannot enjoy the beauty of other countries. They go to a privato, set price they pay, they go to a club they think it is a set price they pay. They don't know they can bargain and get that girl or the one next to her for less. I try to help people in Thailand who don't know the lay of the land. Information gives you power and control. I thank all the people here for your information on BA. Given the correct information most people will understand what you are talking about and not pay crazy prices. I don't think they are overpaying just to stick it to you and everyone there. Happy hunting to all.
Since I'm a frequent visitor, I have developed my own style of Mongering over the years.
First I think Capt. Dave's Mongering rules for "Chica Land" are generally quite true.
I for one, am only into good service and as many of us have posted over the years, price and service have absolutely nothing in common with each other. As Jackson has said the "price of rice in China has nothing to do with its price in New York City"
As a general rule Madaho's and Black have better looking girls than you'll find down town, yet your going to pay more money for them. On that same note, suppose you go into "Madaho's" and pay the $40 peso admission for your one "free" drink and spot something that really turns your head. OK, if you want her the opening bid is a Chica drink, another $80 peso's. This give's you the right to start negociations, your into the deal at this point over $30 USD. Next with the new pricing in Recoleta your going to have to lay out another $300 peso's, ($100 USD) for the oppertunity to fuck her for an hour. Now your "anti" is up to $130 USD plus expenses, taxi's, tello's, ect, ect. By the time you count up the real cost you've paid $500 peso's, $150 USD dollars to Fuck this woman and you know nothing about her.
Thats Gambleing Mongers.
You've laid out $150 USD, plus the "Orgasmo", (which is worth something, you only have so many of them remember) and you don't know what the fuck your going to get. That from my purview is bad Mongering. You'd never find veterans such as Capt Dave or Myself doing something so foolish. I personally, if I really liked the girl, would try for her phone number and put together a deal for the next afternoon at a considerably lower price. If we hit it off and she liked me I'd have a deal, if not I don't want to fuck her anyway since the service wouldn't be good.
Good example of this is I was out at the Mansion a few months back and Dave had invited a girl from "Black" too a pool party. "Gorgeous" thing, tall natural willowy blonde, beautiful girl. Well soon "DickHead" had her in the pool and negociated a price of $120 peso's. I shared a taxi back to town with this girl and she told me she that she wouldn't leave Black for less than $400 peso's, (plus the drinks and other expense's) but she'd do me in my appartment the next afternoon for $120 peso's. You'll save money by Mongering at night and "Fucking" in the afternoon. But that said, thats one hell of a discount.
I myself only have 4 or 5 girls I fuck on a regular basis. They give me really good service at competive prices and were friends. Sure I do foolish things like buying them shit, redecorating their apartments and such. But I truly enjoy their company and the money is well spent. I'd much rather buy my "Chica" something I know she needs than give her a bunch of money in cash that just disappers in thin air. "Little Marsiol" for an example, one night I spent $300 peso's for a TLN. The next day I got up, paid her and found an extra $300 in my wallet. Well she'd treated me so good I wanted to do something nice for her so I took her shopping on Santa Fe. Fasinating experience, amazing how much shit a Chica can buy for $300 peso's. To this day the cloths she bought are the only good ones she has.
Theres inflation in Argentina and those prices are showing up in Mongering. These girls are fucking to put food on the table and pay the rent. "Deal with It", were going to have to pay more money. But that doesn't mean we have to throw our money away. And Recoleta Mongering unless you know the girl personally is a foolish place to spend your money.
Exon
Some people save their money to monger, some people monger with the intent to save money. Who cares. There is no right or wrong, smart or foolish way. Do whatever you feel like doing. I don't go all the way to BA to worry about if I am spending 20 or 30 dollars too much.
The price you pay has nothing to do with the fun you have. The fact one guy only paid 150 pesos doesn't mean he is getting a better performance than the girl that got 300 or vice versa. Just take your time and make the right choice. All this veteran v. Newbie nonsense just makes me laugh. It's all about your own personal style and how you want to satisfy it. If you don't want to pay Recoleta prices don't go to Recoleta. If you would rather go to a club where you can see and breathe, go to Recoleta. Just by being down there and mongering your breaking all of societies rules anyway, just relax and have some fun.
Because that's what it often comes down to with "The Price Police." For the past few months there has been an absence of this kind of judgmental behavior, and there's no need for it to return. It seems you have a memory problem, Hunt. Read this part of your post where you stated that there should not be a return of the "Price Police". Your own words state that those who disagree with you and are Price Police should not be posting their opinion-in your words, "there's no need for it to return".
Tough shit if we return to a subject you do not like.
In the words of Jack Nicholson: Are we CLEAR, now?
And responding to something Puma stated. I think one reason guys overpay is ego. Most men try to impress women by implying they are rich and powerful. Women are attracted to rich and powerful men. I think some guys get their egos satisfied (and rocks off) when they travel playing the big man, the rich gringo, thinking that turns the chicas on. They probably can't play that role at home but when on vacation where their money goes further, they roll-play the big man thing for their own egos and to try and impress the chicas.
JMO
Suerte. Time to move on, this is becoming boring.
Stowe
Exon; Go to the club and pay 40 pesos and just get phone numbers so maybe you can hook up with the girls in the future for less. Sounds like a gamble to me. Stowe is right when people travel to certain countries it is like going to rich mans fantasy camp. Their money goes farther and they throw it around to impress. I know girls look for that and I understand. I just let them know thats not me and if they won't budge then I move along to the next one. Tough to do in high season, to many people tossing money around like its candy.
Puma
Daddy Rulz
02-17-07, 03:56
I will keep paying all the Madahos girls the 300 pesos they are asking. That way I know that I am assured of having one club where I can go in and have my choice of beautiful women without having to fight with all you 150 peso guys trying to scoop up the action. It's all supply and demand, when I demand, I want a good supply to choose from. All I ask for is for just one club. I promise that once outside Madahos I will pay whatever price you want, but that club is mine. Just me and all my porteno friends that I can outspend. Is that too much to ask for, just let me keep Madahos.
Dave, Jackson, see you guys next month. This time Dave I may even get you into my club. I'll even pick up the difference between the 150 you are used to paying and the 300 I pay just so you to can choose from my lovely stable of women.
Actually the only thing that ever bothers me is paying the 60 pesos for the little cup of apple juice that the girls get. What the hell, I like the atmosphere and it's clean and comfortable.
Some of you guys take this whole mongering thing way too seriously.Exactly the point I have been making, do as you guys wish in La Recoletta, but please respect the anti inflation measures used in El Centro.
Slick if Daves not up for your offer I'll be your huckleberry.
Time to move on, this is becoming boring.Perhaps you shall enjoy returning to your usual routine of "Murder She Wrote," on DVD, a glass of warm milk, and an early bed time. Night night, Gramps.
PS - I do agree that some fellows will overpay because of ego, that they enjoy playing "high-roller," if only for a night. More power to them. If that turns their crank, then there's nothing bad to be said against it. The fact that some dried-up old men resent other guys having fun doesn't mean shit.
Daddy Rulz
02-17-07, 13:36
Perhaps you shall enjoy returning to your usual routine of "Murder She Wrote," on DVD, a glass of warm milk, and an early bed time. Night night, Gramps.
PS - I do agree that some fellows will overpay because of ego, that they enjoy playing "high-roller," if only for a night. More power to them. If that turns their crank, then there's nothing bad to be said against it. The fact that some dried-up old men resent other guys having fun doesn't mean shit.That sounds like a fun night, DVD warm milk, Anabel sucking my dick.
Member #1036
02-17-07, 14:09
First trip to Madaho's last night and I don't know why you guys are bitching about. I thought I entered a mens gay club last night as it looked like a sausage fest. I walked around and unless all the girls were taken, the quality of girls is not even close to Black the other night.
I walked the whole room at around 12 or 1 and tried to find the outstanding looking women that you say are here but unless I'm blind there werén't there. When I was at Nuevo Estilo the other night, the amount of quality girls were a far higher percentage than Madahos.
Even though Black is not what it used to be far as looks it still outshines Madaho far as looks are concerned. I do not take girls out of these places as I'm a cheap fuck and don't spend 100us or more for any chica.
Exon; Go to the club and pay 40 pesos and just get phone numbers so maybe you can hook up with the girls in the future for less. Sounds like a gamble to me. Stowe is right when people travel to certain countries it is like going to rich mans fantasy camp. Their money goes farther and they throw it around to impress. I know girls look for that and I understand. I just let them know thats not me and if they won't budge then I move along to the next one. Tough to do in high season, to many people tossing money around like its candy. Puma.Pete Puma,
It doesn't take any brains at all to spend money, any dumb MotherFucker can spend money.
You spend all the time and money you want in those Recoleta clubs, Like "Burger King", You have it your way. I'm just telling you that theres more cost effective ways to do this sport and its rare if you find a veteran in these places.
Moreover, You'll have much better sex, "GFE", with a girl you've been doing on a regular basis than a "one night stand" from Madaho's. Now thats not to say that something might develop with a girl from a Recoleta Club. But you've established a price between you, $300 peso's, and thats your price. You'll pay that price until the day you get married.
After you pay it once you'll pay it everytime you do. Its just like anyone else, are you going to work for less money? Course not, she's the same way.
It doesn't take any brains to be stupid either.
Exon
Moreover, You'll have much better sex, "GFE", with a girl you've been doing on a regular basis than a "one night stand" from Madaho's. Now thats not to say that something might develop with a girl from a Recoleta Club. But you've established a price between you, $300 peso's, and thats your price. You'll pay that price until the day you get married.Maybe that's the way you prefer it, Exon, and maybe I share your preferences. However, not everybody thinks this way. And that's why all this pissing and moaning about other guys' experiences and the prices they pay is so ridiculous. "The cock you please must be your own." To hell with what other people prefer.
1036, one thing I've learned about all these clubs is that the talent level changes from month-to-month, week-to-week, and even night-to-night. A few months ago I saw very fine poontang on sale at Madahos, but very little worth purusing at Black. As you found out last night, just the opposite is true right now.
Exon,
I agree with what you said. People love to throw around money. I am used to it, I live in Las Vegas and I see it all the time. People here give the waitress a 20 dollar tip for bringing them 2 bottles of water. It makes me laugh, another high roller wannabe. I was just saying if you are in BA for a week or less it is a big gamble to go to a club pay the cover and just get phone numbers, some don't want to take that gamble. I like it my way, my price. I tell them if they are looking for the horny gringo, Falang good luck. When it gets slow many of them come back and say ok to my price. I never get hung up on one girl. Doesn't make sense.
Pete Puma.
The fact you live in Las Vegas, (Argueably the worst Mongering town in America) speaks volume's.
You've seen it a million times in that town. Yea Hoo's from all over the country, the world for that matter, come to "Sin City" to throw money away gamble and fuck.
The Pussy in that town "Sucks" and way, way over priced. Even the old hags at the Brothels want $300 an hour. Frankly I Jack Off while I'm in Vegas.
Vegas has more prostitutes per captia then any other city in America and they all want $300 dollars, (starting price) or more for an hour of unexpireing Sex. Some Monger's pay 10's of thousands in Vegas. No wonder yourself and others believe that $300 hundred peso's in Recoleta for a "Stunner" is a good deal. Its not, as written below the price of rice in China has nothing to do with the price of rice in New York.
If your a tourst in Buenos Aires Yea your probably right. Your only going to be there for a few short days so why not spend money. But for those of us that travel to Argentina on a regular basis or live their its going to be very rare that you see one of us in a Recoleta club. Its just not good value.
Example, I know a girl who quit Santa Fe 1707. I used to fuck her over their for a hundred peso's. She now works at Madaho's and won't leave for anything less that $400 peso's. I ran into to her a while back and we made a compromise, $150 peso's. Jesica is her name if some of you guy's remember her at 1707.
Again, all of us have different Mongering styles. I like "GFE", to get GFE you have to do the same girl repeted times, not just one "roll in the hay". In time you build a relationship and the sex gets really, really good and the clock doesn't exist. My only problem with that type of Mongering is You have to keep your girls seperated. Not always an easy thing to do.
South American working girls are very possessive and you don't want to get caught fucking another girl. They will inspect your apartment or hotel looking for traces of "the other woman" and when she finds evidence of her your in trouble.
I guess what I'm saying is that if I'm going to waste my time "trolling" in a Recoleta club I'm going to do it on my terms, not hers or the club's. I'm going to cut a deal in the 150 to 200 peso range for a little "afternoon delight" which won't fuck up her work nights. Its added money to her budget and she doesn't lose "face" with the club or other girls. Sorta like "DickHead" with the stunner from Black I wrote about below that quotes $400 peso's. I spent sometime with her socially at the Mansion and the 400 peso pussy became $120 peso pussy.
Enough said.
Exon
It doesn't take any brains to be stupid.
ExonExon.
This one quote takes you into a whole new league!
Well said (and even corektly speled)
:)
David
...an hour of unexpireing Sex.
ExonThere's a phrase that inspires shock and awe!
There's a phrase that inspires shock and awe!Its the same as "jacking Off" by "Proxy" Dave.
I mean your having real sex with a woman, but in the back of your mind your really just Wacking Off.
Possibly I should have written "Uninspiring sex"
Exon
I never said I pay 300 pesos. Read the post. You always look to flame. I have no intention on going to Recoleta clubs. I can get that kind of service at home. I am not interested in girls looking for tourists. I said I understand why people with little time pay big prices. I don't agree, I just understand. You think because I live in Las Vegas I do what the tourists do. Wrong! Get your facts straight.
HollisterDude0
02-19-07, 02:09
Good strategy Exon. I am enlightened
Captain9026
02-21-07, 03:14
Has anyone ran into this chica lately. She has short blonde hair no tits but an awesome set of legs and ass. Scratchy voice. I am coming back in march and want to track her down. Awesome service.
Cap
Wayne Will
03-21-07, 01:26
A week ago Monday I was in Madaho's at about 12:00am. Lot's of chica's that night some very good and some were just ok. The first blonde I talked to (I can't remember her name) was very hot. To cut to the Chase she wanted $200 US, I said that was too high. So she asked me how much was I willing to pay, and I said 300 pesos. Then she said "This is Buenos Aires" and walked away in a huff. I thought to myself "there are plenty of other girls here and I am going keep looking". I then saw another nice blonde (Nicole) who told me she is 1/2 Argentinean and 1/2 Brazilian. That had me intrigued. She was not as hot as the first blonde but she was very friendly and had a nice smile on her face. So I starting talking to her and she agreed to 300 pesos and two hours. We talked and I bought her a drink and about a 3/4 of an hour later with left for the transitorio. Guess who was still sitting by herself as I left? Some girls just don't want to make any money.
I can't post a picture of Nicole because she didn't want me to. She is about 5'4" with medium blonde hair, blue eyes, D cups (implants) nice sized ass and very tan. She did not offer anal but it wasn't a problem for me. We spent an hour banging and then we left. I know I should have held her to the full 2 hours but it was late and I was tired and there was no more leche in me. I saw her a second time because we had some chemistry together. I would give her a body a 9 and her face a 7 but her personality was a 10. Some girls just appear much more attractive because of their personality, and she is one of them.
It just goes to show, that if you wait the price will come down at Madaho's.
A week ago Monday I was in Madaho's at about 12:00am. Lot's of chica's that night some very good and some were just ok. The first blonde I talked to (I can't remember her name) was very hot. To cut to the Chase she wanted $200 US, I said that was too high. So she asked me how much was I willing to pay, and I said 300 pesos. Then she said "This is Buenos Aires" and walked away in a huff. I thought to myself "there are plenty of other girls here and I am going keep looking". I then saw another nice blonde (Nicole) who told me she is 1/2 Argentinean and 1/2 Brazilian. That had me intrigued. She was not as hot as the first blonde but she was very friendly and had a nice smile on her face. So I starting talking to her and she agreed to 300 pesos and two hours. We talked and I bought her a drink and about a 3/4 of an hour later with left for the transitorio. Guess who was still sitting by herself as I left? Some girls just don't want to make any money.
I can't post a picture of Nicole because she didn't want me to. She is about 5'4" with medium blonde hair, blue eyes, D cups (implants) nice sized ass and very tan. She did not offer anal but it wasn't a problem for me. We spent an hour banging and then we left. I know I should have held her to the full 2 hours but it was late and I was tired and there was no more leche in me. I saw her a second time because we had some chemistry together. I would give her a body a 9 and her face a 7 but her personality was a 10. Some girls just appear much more attractive because of their personality, and she is one of them.
It just goes to show, that if you wait the price will come down at Madaho's.Good for you for not paying her any us dollars. These sluts will take advatange of you if you let them. Those women with attitute should be a sign they wil be trouble later.
Welcome to the Forum.
Good luck fellow dog
Captain9026
03-26-07, 19:25
How is Madahos on a Monday? I was thinking to hit it tonight or anywhere else if anyone has a good Monday night recomendation.
Cap
How is madahos on a Monday? I was thinking to hit it tonight or anywhere else if anyone has a good Monday night recomendation.
CapMonday should be a busy night at most BsAs boliches. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday are the slowest nights. In my opinion Thursday is the busiest.
After visiting L'Alliance with Badboy to meet up with 2 girls, we went to Madahos minus one (the ugly one who was supposed to be mine) Badboy kept his favorite and we entered the club less admission (Thanks BB. It was my first night in BA, and BadBoy was explaining the way the club worked. He helpfully pointed out some of his favoritas (I really wanted his girl, he knows it!) As he and his chica sat and rested, I circled the club and sized up the talent. BBoy pointed out one of his favorites, and I agreed. It was Sophia. He highly recommended her, and his chica went over to talk to her. She said she was with some other guys and was occupied. Strike one. I then spied the most beautiful girl in the whole place, and ran to Bboy and told him. He laughed and told me she was a "dancer" and wasn't here for sex. I was disappointed. I found a big titted brunette who wanted 300 P. I decided not to jump after the first one as Bboy said, the town is full of pussy, slow down! I decided that I would stay until after 3, to see if the price would drop. I bid Bboy and his chica mucha bonita goodnight as they left. I then waited to see. Things were not going my way, and I was about to leave when who appeared but Sophia! I jumped after her, and talked with her for about 3-5 minutes in my stunted Spanish / her stunted English. I negotiated my way to a 400 P / 2 hr at my apartment. She went back into the back to change as I waited. Guess what- I must have fucked up somewhere in my mind, as I then saw her leave with 2 guys in a suit. I can chalk it up to me not speaking Spanish. But I do not think I was wrong. I think she saw more $$ in them and left.
I then went home. First night- learning experience.
Best Regards.
Smuler
Good report. It's good to see mongers post when things go bad. Let's the rest of us know when it happens to us that it's the life we have chosen with that special type of chica.
Good luck on your chica hunting. Mine starts next week.
Suerte.
Stowe
[I agree with you entirely - I spent 11 days in BA just returend back home - already planning my next trip - it is Costa Rica on steroids. Any way last Saturday night I went to Madaho's about 1:30 a.m. After about 1/2 hour hooked up with Nicole - same price 300 P's for 2 hours spent the whole time with her - excellant quality - she told me her ass is from her Brazzilian mother - she knows how to use it - had the best time with her - excellant personality - 10 all the way - lets you use the whole time experimenting different things - would do her any time ]A week ago Monday I was in Madaho's at about 12:00am. Lot's of chica's that night some very good and some were just ok. The first blonde I talked to (I can't remember her name) was very hot. To cut to the Chase she wanted $200 US, I said that was too high. So she asked me how much was I willing to pay, and I said 300 pesos. Then she said "This is Buenos Aires" and walked away in a huff. I thought to myself "there are plenty of other girls here and I am going keep looking". I then saw another nice blonde (Nicole) who told me she is 1/2 Argentinean and 1/2 Brazilian. That had me intrigued. She was not as hot as the first blonde but she was very friendly and had a nice smile on her face. So I starting talking to her and she agreed to 300 pesos and two hours. We talked and I bought her a drink and about a 3/4 of an hour later with left for the transitorio. Guess who was still sitting by herself as I left? Some girls just don't want to make any money.
I can't post a picture of Nicole because she didn't want me to. She is about 5'4" with medium blonde hair, blue eyes, D cups (implants) nice sized ass and very tan. She did not offer anal but it wasn't a problem for me. We spent an hour banging and then we left. I know I should have held her to the full 2 hours but it was late and I was tired and there was no more leche in me. I saw her a second time because we had some chemistry together. I would give her a body a 9 and her face a 7 but her personality was a 10. Some girls just appear much more attractive because of their personality, and she is one of them.
It just goes to show, that if you wait the price will come down at Madaho's.[/QUOTE]
Wayne Will
04-01-07, 14:11
Principal,
I'm glad you had a great experience with her like I did.
Wayne
I went to Madaho's twice with varying results.
The first time, I went with a skinny gal who looked like an anime named Sabrina. She seemed a little tired, or weary of the job perhaps, but warmed up and was actually great. Her body was perfect for me. In fact, I found her totally precious and could have been in danger of falling for her. But I didn't get her phone number. ar$300
The next time, I made the mistake of talking to someone who didn't smile at me. She was very petite, with a pretty face but a little tummy and said she'd been a cashier at a supermarket until one month ago. I made the second mistake of buying her a drink before negotiating. She wanted ar$450, and wouldn't go down. So I left.
But everyone was demading ar$400 and wouldn't go down. So I went back to her and we went to my place. Upon arriving, she didn't want to be touched and demanded the money up front. I said no, later. She said no, now. We went back and forth, and I finally thought it was a waste of time, so I told her to go. She didn't want to go. Finally I made her leave and gave her ar$10 for the cab.
She was cute, but not all that, and no one else there was cuter. I don't think I'll be back to Madaho's.
It seems everyday much harder pick up one for 300 pesos.
Lately they raised drink price and more than one girl told me that the new policy of the house is.
Minimum 300 pesos for argentinos or resident.
Minimum 400-450 pesos for the rest of the world
I think that a good way of locking in prices is to get numbers. Most if not all the girls there will skip a day of work to fuck you for the whole night instead for either the price of one hour from Madahos or two.
The average girl is pragmatic, she understand she can only get 1-2 exits from Madahos a night, meaning 300-600 pesos for a 10pm-5am gig, while she can fuck a well known good client for 300-600. If the girl likes you, you can even arrange a pre work fuck session for free. I would say the only thing good about these clubs are the talent, if the clubs needlessly raise prices, then you must eliminate the middle men. Go to the chicks directly, pick one up for a two hour fuck session before she goes to work for 300 AR, or get her for TLN for 400-600 AR. If you really think about it, the thought of have a beautiful girl fuck you for hours and hours non stop with no time limit for 150-200 US, is quite a deal.
I like Madahos, it is a much better deal than Black and the girls are just as beautiful. But on my last trip I did notice they raised the prices. They used to be 40 AR entrance and 70 AR chick drink. Now they are 50 AR entrance and 80 AR chick drink. Plus the girls now, some anyway, try to start the negociations around 400 AR much more often. But the minute you tell them you are a regular, they quickly accept 300 AR with no time limit. I never negociate time. I just tell them 300 AR, and once I get them to the hotel, I fuck them til the wheels fall off, sometimes 45 minutes, somtimes 2 hours. Oh I usually talk a little before. The way you find out if the girl is a true pro is, if once you finish fucking she immediatley goes to the bathroom and changes and puts her shoes on, she is a pro, but if the girl just lays with you, continues kissing and trying to get you hard again, then she is a guaranteed KEEPER.
Madahos is a good place, stick to your guns boys, tell them you're a regular and you will only pay 300. If the girl is smart she will take it, if she is waiting for the pie in the sky, then she can keep warming that seat.
Bad
PS, I don't go to Madahos anymore, I have scorched the earth there. I have my list of 4 reliable providers from there. Each to fullfill an individual fetish. The only reason I would go there would be to make sure a newbie doesn't get torn a new one, and possibly to try and fuck a dancer.
Yeah so true.
It's still the best club.
The point is that till a couple of months ago 300 pesos was a perfect offer that 90% of the girls were accepting happy and smiling and know it seems to run after black.
Daddy Rulz
04-11-07, 15:44
yeah so true.
It's still the best club.
The point is that till a couple of months ago 300 pesos was a perfect offer that 90% of the girls were accepting happy and smiling and know it seems to run after black.Last night sitting in Exedra there were a couple N Americanos behind me. We talked for a little and I tried to school them, vis pricing, clubs etc. My buddies arrive and soon I'm in conversation with them and leave the other guys to their own accord.
Hour later this guy calls this chica over, she's skinny but not young or hot and wants 100 U. S. Dollars. The guy doesn't laugh at her or send her away he counters with 80 for two hours. She holds firm and he accepts her price (I could see his tail between his legs while he was talking to her) 40 minutes after she left with him she is back. I'm sure the service was fabulous. Lets see, 10 min to get to the hotel, 5 to undress and wash pussy minimum 5 minutes to dress and 10 minutes to get back sounds like about 10 minutes of heaven to me so about 600 dollars an hour. I'm guessing he paid her when she walked in the room and when she got dressed the second he came he didn't say a word.
Simple rules, very simple.
Don't get too drunk (little head thinking for the big head)
Don't ever ask for a price first, make an offer and go from there. Make your offer low. Never ever pay them before you are satisfied. Showing the money is ok but under no conditions except in a privado pay for sex before you get it. Learn two new words despues (after) and vete (get out of here) if they insist. Sure give them money for a taxi to get back to the club, well not actually just let them share your taxi back to the club so you can walk back in with them and fuck whichever girl they said goodbuy to when you left. That girl is her best friend at the club.
Don't be afraid to send them away, as often as not they will return and accept an offer with a small face saving bump after they sit for yet another hour. Yes she may leave with somebody else but THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF PUSSY HERE! Move on to the next one.
Be aware of the situation, if the club is full of tacos lower prices, if the sausage out numbers the tacos not so many bargains.
Also watch your chica, best time to strike is after she just wasted an hour or more talking to an Argie that only had a hard dick and no pesos in his pocket. I swear after soccer their favorite past time is keeping hookers at their table for an hour bullshitting and then not fucking them. In this situation make your offer then tell her, you just wasted an hour with those beludos, do you want to talk some more or do you want to leave with somebody? (Que queres, hablando mas o salimos ya?)
Please don't tell me that you have a limited time and the extra 50 bucks doesn't mean anything. I've been hearing that for years and the same guys that used to say it when the differance was 150 pesos or 200 pesos now have their eyes falling out of their heads at 450 pesos. Go to cielioprivado in the afternoon so the epidimial wedgehead pressure is managable at night. Just like you shouldn't be in the grocery store when your hungry you shouldn't be looking for hookers during whiteout.
And for Gods sake if you can't do these things then overpay in the Recolleta and leave the center clubs alone. 300 fucking pesos for a 40 year old unatractive woman at Exedra! They talk to each other just like we do.
Make part of your BsAs experiance rediscovering your cajones, your exwife girlfriend whatever has had them long enough. A buddy of mine said it best years ago when por fin he understood the attitude I was trying to teach him. "I get it, I have to BE A KING!" Exactly
Bob I know I was talking about an event that happened at Exedra on the Madaho thread but I think the info applies. I do so hope you approve.
Great post DRuiz,
One point to add. In my mongering experience, the few times I've paid the chick's asking price, the experience has ended up being bad. I think it's a matter of respect. If you just give in and pay what she wants, she thinks you're a loser, and will treat you as such. I think that's what happened to the poor guy at Exedra. If you bargain with her (but in a congenial way) she will respect you more, and will give you a better experience. Women (including pros) don't like pushovers.
Great post DRuiz,
One point to add. In my mongering experience, the few times I've paid the chick's asking price, the experience has ended up being bad. I think it's a matter of respect. If you just give in and pay what she wants, she thinks you're a loser, and will treat you as such. I think that's what happened to the poor guy at Exedra. If you bargain with her (but in a congenial way) she will respect you more, and will give you a better experience. Women (including pros) don't like pushovers.Thank you Combo,
For stating THE reason not to overpay chicas, which is always in effect regardless of your desire or ability to pay more.
Thanks again!
Jackson
Daddy Rulz
04-13-07, 05:17
Great post DRuiz,
One point to add. In my mongering experience, the few times I've paid the chick's asking price, the experience has ended up being bad. I think it's a matter of respect. If you just give in and pay what she wants, she thinks you're a loser, and will treat you as such. I think that's what happened to the poor guy at Exedra. If you bargain with her (but in a congenial way) she will respect you more, and will give you a better experience. Women (including pros) don't like pushovers.I actually think you shouldn't be too congenial during the bargaining phase. I think it's a 3 stage process, at first be funny, make them laugh, just be a nice guy. Then when you bargain, bargain hard be very tough let them know that there are more available and moving on is no problem, what your looking for is them to submit. Make them move to you. After that treat them well again, make the relationship be one where they earn your good will from doing what you want not the other way around. Bottom line is there is more pussy than money.
There's a psychological point here. The point is that by becoming prostitutes, each of these women have mentally submitted to the sexual desires of men. In other words, they tend by nature to be submissive and respond to powerful men using her body for their own purposes.
While this doesn't mean that you should be an asshole, it does mean that most chicas are looking to do what you want, on your terms. Yes, they still have self-interest working, but if you establish yourself in the dominant position during negotiations, then all the good things that flow from women submitting themselves to you should follow.
On the other hand, if you want her on top and like yourself to be bound and gagged, pay whatever she demands. Exon usually does things this way, in addition to having the chicas spank his bottom. Bad Exon! You've been very naughty!
Daddy Rulz
04-13-07, 15:33
There's a psychological point here. The point is that by becoming prostitutes, each of these women have mentally submitted to the sexual desires of men. In other words, they tend by nature to be submissive and respond to powerful men using her body for their own purposes.
While this doesn't mean that you should be an asshole, it does mean that most chicas are looking to do what you want, on your terms. Yes, they still have self-interest working, but if you establish yourself in the dominant position during negotiations, then all the good things that flow from women submitting themselves to you should follow.
On the other hand, if you want her on top and like yourself to be bound and gagged, pay whatever she demands. Exon usually does things this way, in addition to having the chicas spank his bottom. Bad Exon! You've been very naughty!And like driving in Mexico if you show any weakness at all your fucked, or rather not fucked very well.
Punter 127
04-13-07, 17:58
WOW, DR, BB13, Combo, and Hunt you guys hit the ball out of the park this time, it's like you ripped the pages right out of my play book, but I could never have expressed it so elegantly. Bet that's the first time DR and elegantly has been used together. (Sorry Buddy just joking.) If everybody would heed your advice, quality pussy at a reasonable price would be a lot easier to come by.
I think the problem is most guys tend to deal with these chicas like they would a potential girlfriend. That's just the wrong way to look at it, it's a business deal. You are not trying to get her to agree to fuck you, she's already agreeable to that, you're trying to get her to agree to a reasonable price.
If you walked in to a car dealers showroom and said to the sales manager: WOW, I love that green one, look at the headlights on that thing, man I can't wait to turn them on. I gotta have it, how much is it? And he replied the price is on the window. Ok, I'll take it. Do you think you got a good price? And what do think is going to happen when he tells service manager how easy you were. Do you think the service manager is going to worry about giving you good service? Aren't all independent working girls both the sales and service managers?
One other little bit of advice, once you have been with a chica never talk about money again. (Unless you are trying to get a lower price.) Don't even ask her if the price is the same as before, because if you do, it will just give her an opening to ask for more.
On my last trip I spotted a chica at Exedra I had been with on a previous trip, several guys told me she charges 200p and won't go for less. I told them I had her for 150p and the reply was, "well she won't do it now". So later I called her over, yes I like to make them come to me, I see it as the first step in them understanding they are expected to provide service to me. I ask her if see wanted to go with me; she replied yes and off we went, never talked about money at all. After a very good session I gave her 150p, expecting she might ask for more. She didn't, instead she asks how long I would be in town and if we could get together again. She has since told another monger that she always charges everybody the same.
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It seems everyday much harder pick up one for 300 pesos.
Lately they raised drink price and more than one girl told me that the new policy of the house is.
Minimum 300 pesos for argentinos or resident.
Minimum 400-450 pesos for the rest of the worldI went to Madahos last night. I must say I was impressed by the quality of some of the chicas. A few of them were what I would consider to be a 9/10 and that's rare for me to say. The first hour or so, I talked with 2 absolute stunners. But they were both asking for too much money, and neither one would budge in price. They were asking for 600 pesos and literally walked away when I told them 400 was all I would pay. I even thought 400 was too much as well, but they were HOT and stood out from the others. I was shocked that they turned it down. I've honestly never paid that much before in BA and was amazed it wasn't enough for them. I even specified to them I only required their services for an hour and a half!
Another girl came up and chatted with me a bit who I really wasn't interested in. She had a great body, but the face was bad news. I wanted to see what her price was though, so I asked her. Her initial offer was 400 pesos. I didn't negotiate from there because she didn't compare to the other 2 stunners and I truly wasn't interested in taking her home.
Are these top girls at Madahos getting 600 pesos? That's triple what I've been paying girls in BA from other spots.
SmokersRule
04-29-07, 21:08
Smoothy:
Did you talk about time? Was that quote for 1hr or TLN? Seems like it would be right on for a Madahos girl TLN, but probably not for 1hr.
Smoothy:
Did you talk about time? Was that quote for 1hr or TLN? Seems like it would be right on for a Madahos girl TLN, but probably not for 1hr.There was no misunderstanding about the time. The girls even said "una hora y media". They wanted 600 pesos for that.
I don't like keeping them all night anyway, so an hour and a half is plenty. But 600 is a little too rich for my blood. Maybe I just looked like a sucker, I'm not sure. I don't speak much spanish so I'm sure I come across as an easy target.
SmokersRule
04-29-07, 21:29
But I'd like to see what these chicas look like.
Rock Harders
04-29-07, 23:02
Mongers,
I made a stop in Madahos this past Tuesday night and overall I was not very impressed with the quality present at that time. There were plenty of "doable" chicas, with plenty of quantity (50 girls possibly) but for the likely $300 AR plus drinks to get them out, I would not even consider taking any of the girls there that night. There was surely nothing working the floor more than an 8 on the standard 1-10 scale, and those 8's were few and far between. The dancers, however, were top notch, maybe a 9, but the bar fine to get them out of Madahos was quoted at $300 AR.
The $600 AR price quoted to a previous poster was the girls way of saying "go fuck yourself". I remember back in December when I was in here negotiating for my cousin and uncle and the girl tried to say $200 USD. I promptly laughed in her face and chewed her out in spanish to the point that she was almost in tears, afterwards she willingly accepted the $300 AR I said my cousin would be willing to pay her. Interestingly enough it was a very good experience for him, she stayed without extra charge for several days and he ended up taking her to Punta Del Este with him for a few days.
If your spanish is good enough, you need to make it clear that ridiculous quotes to the effect of $200 USD are very insulting and that you know she would never get that or ask that from an Argentine local. Even $400 AR is totally out of line in my opinion, as any local argie can tell you that they are not paying these girls more than the $150-$200 AR range.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
SmokersRule
04-29-07, 23:10
$300AR barfine. It makes me wonder how many takers they get. Can the dancers be had for regular prices, or are they super-inflated too?
Dirk, it sounds like I need to hang out with you. LOL.
It's good to know they were asking for an outrageous price and 300 is the going rate. I'll try the place again before I leave. I made the mistake of telling the girls it was my first time there that night.
The standard rate is 300 AR, but if you don't know how to speak spanish, they know they can swindle you for 600 AR, it is a good thing you stuck to your guns. My suggestion would be, try to go with a spanish speaker next time, you will be surprised how quickly the prices will change. 300 AR is more than enough for these girls.
As far as the dancers go, 300 is only the drink fee, some won't even go out with you. But I have heard the going rate for dancers starts at 500 AR and up. Just note, some girls don't go out. So you might end up paying the 300 AR drink fee and just sit there and talk to the chick and nothing more.
Bad
Tonight I went to New Port first and if I were smart, I'd have taken that girl home I was talking to there. She was very nice and was asking for 200 pesos to go home with me. But since it was my first place of the night, I decided to explore other venues. I then tried a place called Solid Gold, then the blue lighted place around the corner from Madahos (I think it's Sodomy or something like that) No nice chicas in either of those places. So back to Madahos.
I took a girl out of Madahos tonight for 300 pesos for one hour (it was not easy negotiating that price) Although the 80 peso drink for the girl and the 50 peso entrance fee I had to pay was painful, it was still better than 600 pesos! I can't say it was worth it though compared to the places in BA I've frequented in the past. I prefer a GFE and I haven't found that yet from Madahos.
Although she didn't mind me taking photos, no GFE for sure tonight. This girl was all business and tried to rush for the door as soon as we were finished. I'd have never guessed that from the way she acted in the club. I'd have sworn she was ready to bear 4 or 5 children for me and love me forever when we were in the club. But when it came time to get down to business, she was trying to rush out on me as fast as possible.
Maybe I've just been unlucky in Recoleta so far. I've always had great experiences with other girls in other clubs in Buenos Aires over the years. I just got extended here another week, so I'll have at least 10 more nights and 10 more chicas to find one I highly recommend. None yet. But hope springs eternal. I can't say I haven't had some good sex though so far. Just no "keepers".
of those places. So back to Madahos.
This girl was all business and tried to rush for the door as soon as we were finished. I'd have never guessed that from the way she acted in the club. I'd have sworn she was ready to bear 4 or 5 children for me and love me forever when we were in the club. But when it came time to get down to business, she was trying to rush out on me as fast as possible.Welcome to the world of 'snakes in the grass'. You will experiance this from.
Time to time. Best way to deal with it, is to have to great expectation.
And if you wish to find a girlfriend in this lifestyle, be careful what you wish for.
RustyJones
05-01-07, 13:07
This topic frosts my butt! It almost seems that the "local chicks" have banded together to raise prices.
Well I encountered this in the Dominican Republic at Black Beards resort (actually a very good place to go) The girls of Black Beards decided (due to some high rollers that came through for one and a half days) that they were raising thier prices. Once all of us regular guys discussed this, we decided to just bring girls in from the Niteclubs (which we could) and ignor completely the Black Beard girls. Boy did this work. Within two days of no business, each of the girls dropped thier prices and were a lot nicer and accommodating. Remember they were seeing us with the other "Niteclub" chicks for those two days having a great time. Yes they were really pissed at first, but that changed as thier needs arose.
This may not all together work at Madahos but the more of us that do ignor that establishment and not pay the outrageous prices, the less business they will have and the prices may slowly decline. Just keep getting the word out.
So I agree be firm and nice and you will get what you wish for more of the time.
Rustyjones
SexMachine
05-01-07, 19:23
I agree with Rustyjones. In the Past 4 weeks, I went to Madahos twice and did not pull a chica from there. I did talk to a couple of girls there and could have taken one for 300 pesos but decided not to because 300+80 pesos is too expensive for my taste. There are other places in town to find good looking girls for under 200 pesos.
If we all ignore places like Madahos and Black, where girls are asking ridiculous amounts of money, things will slow down there and hopefully, prices will come down.
What amazes me is that almost every night in places like Madahos and Black, 60%-70% girls are not gonna picked up but they are still not ready to negotiate. It doesn't matter how late in the night it is. We talked to a couple of girls 2 minutes before they were leaving for the night and were still quoted 200-300 USD. That's insane.
SM
If we all ignore places like Madahos and Black, where girls are asking ridiculous amounts of money, things will slow down there and hopefully, prices will come down.If "we all ignore places like Madahos and Black," their business will not be affected at all. The readers of this board constitute approximately.001% of their clientele.
The better suggestion is to know what you're doing when you visit these places, what the market is, and how to negotiate. (Speaking some Spanish helps immeasurably.) The typical short-term visitor doesn't have the energy or desire to chase all over town looking for a 150 peso drill, when he can have exactly what he wants, when he wants it, for 300. It's all a matter of perspective, and ability to negotiate.
If you spend 1000 dollars for airfare, 75 dollars a night for an apartment (or 100+ for a hotel), and 50 dollars a day in food and are on a typical trip of a week's length, there's no great loss or shame in paying 100 or 150 pesos more than what you can find way out in some club in the suburbs where nobody speaks any English at all.
If you don't live here, and paying an extra few dollars for sex bothers you, then please don't spend the thousands of dollars for airfare, hotel, and food. Stay home. It's too expensive for you to visit. Because the sex is only a very small part of what cost you're paying for a vacation in BsAs.
I was speaking to a pilot friend of mine and he mentions that what happens in Rio may also happen in clubs in BA such as Black, Shampoo etc. The girls receive a loan from the establishment and they have to pay it back and at the same time be at the club every night to pay off the loan with payments made from their "work". This ensures the owner that he is going to have girls all the time which will attract the men that pay the prices for the drinks for themselves and the girls. This is said to happen at Help in Rio. Possibly in BA also? Has anyone heard of something like this?
Joe Vato
Been to BA 3 times already, still don't know where exactly Madahos and Black are. Lol.
I agree with Rustyjones. In the Past 4 weeks, I went to Madahos twice and did not pull a chica from there. I did talk to a couple of girls there and could have taken one for 300 pesos but decided not to because 300+80 pesos is too expensive for my taste. There are other places in town to find good looking girls for under 200 pesos.
If we all ignore places like Madahos and Black, where girls are asking ridiculous amounts of money, things will slow down there and hopefully, prices will come down.
What amazes me is that almost every night in places like Madahos and Black, 60%-70% girls are not gonna picked up but they are still not ready to negotiate. It doesn't matter how late in the night it is. We talked to a couple of girls 2 minutes before they were leaving for the night and were still quoted 200-300 USD. That's insane.
SM
If "we all ignore places like Madahos and Black," their business will not be affected at all. The readers of this board constitute approximately.001% of their clientele.Hi Hunt and others,
I couldn't agree more. The reason that the chicas are asking (and getting) these prices is because the Argentinos are paying these prices.
Some guys here continue to confuse BA with tourist dominated places like those in Central America and throughout the Caribbean where the tourists in fact do drive the market.
Thanks,
Jackson
Rock Harders
05-02-07, 01:09
Jackson-
I disagree with you completely in that the Argentinos are paying (or even getting quoted) the same high prices as everyone else in places like Black and Madahos. I would bet my life that no Argentine has ever even gotten quoted the $200 USD price that seems to be the standard asking price in Black and the "whale" price in Madahos. The reality is that Argentines are not paying more than $200 AR in any of these places, a fact ascertained by casual interviews with many off-duty chicas and chicas met in other locations that work at Black or Madahos. These chicas can smell an extranjero from a mile way and your only way to beat this superhuman extrasensory ability is to talk them down using refined spanish skills / convincing them you actually live in Buenos Aires and deserve the treatment that goes along with that.
Places such as Black and Madahos are absolutely maintained by and cater to the heavy tourist / businessmen influx in Recoleta. Sure, you see Argies in these places, but most just cough up the one drink and never take anything out, and the ones that do are generally visiting businessmen from someplace else (in Argentina or elsewhere in Latin America) Why do you think there are schills all over Vicente Lopez handing out cards to try to suck in people unfamiliar to the scene? Because these places need, expect, and want tourists / visitors.
The truth is that Buenos Aires is filled with extranjeros with money to burn wandering around Recoleta looking for a piece of ass that have absolutely no idea this board exists, to their detriment. I see it almost on a daily basis at my place of business, guys hanging out asking where they can get some girls or paying RIDICULOUS prices to garbage quality girls just because they don't know any better. The kernal of truth in what Hunt said is that if WE (meaning the members of this board) stop frequenting a place it would have absolutely no effect on the business of these places.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
I've been going to Madahos as part of my regular rounds for going on 17 months now and I've personally heard local argentina business guys in there that I've chatted and talked to getting quoted and paying 300-400p to take the girls out. I also go in there every now and then with a couple medical collegues I've met who have their own practices here in BA and they positively pay 300-500p, depending on girl, how long they want to go out that night, etc.
So while I can't say every local Argentine pays that or just drinks and leaves, through both my personal friends that I've witnessed first hand, and those I've more informally overheard, my opinion is that in general the locals do pay what the girls ask for. Never heard a 600p quote to a local yet, but the 300-400, sure - lots of times.
Argentines seem to come in 3 flavors - the indigent, which isnt even in Madahos at all due to the entry fee, the middle class which I'm sure are ones that just watch but don't really pay even the 200p out call, and the wealthy. Talk to some of the argentine business guys in there, confirm they are locals, and you'll find a good number do indeed pay 300p+ to take the gals out of there. There's a good number that belong to the priveleged category, business owners, land ownders, old money families, etc.
Sorry Dirk,
But you are wrong here, I have met many Argentinos at Madahos and they always get quoted the 300-400 AR price. The only difference is that they never get quoted the 600 AR price because the girls know better. Madahos actually has a minimum the girls can charge, anything less, tourist or local, and they can get in trouble.
Also, Portenos with money are some of the biggest idiots in the place. Have you ever been in the Madahos VIP? I haven't, but I know for a fact that all the Argentino business men take chicks up there to impress them. They go up there with 2-4 girls and buy drinks that cost double what they do downstairs, this is a fact. I have seen many regular girls go up there with PORTENOS, and then the girls tell me this guy spent the last 2 hours buying four girls drinks at 160 AR a pop and only took 1 girl out. These are portenos doing this shit.
I am sorry but either these girls are bullshitting you, or you positively know the cheapest portenos in BA. Because the ones I have seen at Madahos try their best to out spend the tourists and impress the chicas, which I think is stupid but I have seen it. I have also seen many portenos get quoted and pay girls 300-400 AR. And I have also seen portenos tell girls to take a hike when they wouldn't go below 300 AR. If guys are getting those girls for 200 AR, I have never seen it, the lowest I have ever heard of a girl going for was 250 AR, and that was like 6 months ago, I have heard the girls say they charge 300 AR to locals and regulars, and 400-600 to tourists and guys they would rather not fuck.
Bad
BTW, I would like to someone to post a recent Madahos pick up, by either himself or a porteno buddy, giving the girls Madahos name, where the girl went for 200 AR.
RustyJones
05-02-07, 12:05
Ok guys, If I am in a business that I need to take each sale as if it may be the only sale of the day, I will size up the buyer and see what I am able to get. The girls are doing the same thing (as everyone is saying on the board here) But do you think I am going to confess to other buyers (that pay more) that I have sold it for less? Hell no! I want everyone to think that they are getting the best buy and that I treat all buyers the same at that higher price. Remember this is a GENERAL RULE. There are exceptions as always. Also when rent is due things change too!
I do feel that Hunt99 does have some credence in this thought though. Every week there are many tourist mongers of all types visiting BA. We would need to place a billboard up at the airport to inform all of those guys each week about Madahos. As was said, we on this board only comprise a very small percentage of the total monger population. As members we have access to a plethora of information that is NOT available to others. Now also I have heard about the local argentine sister web site to ours. Don't you feel they are also discussing this too? Even though with both boards, it still doesn't make a real large dent in the population.
Just as an example was last night. I met some guys in town that were sitting in the patio at Newport's. Newport's was dead so I suggested going to Excedra. One of the guys was excited to find at Excedra two ladies that he could pay 300 pesos per lady for their company for an hour. I over heard him and casually talked to his buddy next to me to correct him to bargain down to 150 per lady per hour. His buddy spoke Spanish very well. He saved 300 pesos! But with out me and the knowledge from this board he would have been ignorant regarding the bargaining process and real prices. They also wanted to go to this place called Shampoo which I tried to talk them out of and go straight to Excedra. But the one guy in the group was bent on going there! So I tagged along. We went in for one very expensive drink and then all of us left to go to Excedra. They realized once we got inside that Shampoo's was only a rip off place. They did not even know that Newports was a place to meet pro-Ladies. All of the cards finally fell into place after the first hour at Excedra.
So the moral is that most guys coming into town are very ignorant about the scene here as many of us were the first time here or even second time. As long as that ignorance prevails with all of the casual one time tourists to BA that do not have the means for research like this board, Madaho's, Black's, Shampoo's and other places like those will continue to be able to hold their prices. I have possibly done a complete 180 from my last post but that was due to last nights experience first hand. They were good guys but they just did not know!
I think I have written enough!
Rustyjones
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