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Thomaso276
12-07-07, 01:46
Yeah but the plumber isn't stroking your dick, putting your hands on his tits and rubbing his ass in your face while he negotiates the deal (OR IS HE?
Yeah but the plumber isn't stroking your dick, puTting your hands on his tits and rubbing his ass in your face while he negotiates the deal (OR IS HE?Hahahahaha - But he charges you almost as if he did!:)
200 pesos - 1.5 hours.
Session OK.
Was in a hurry towards the end to service another guy who had promised $100 for 1 hr at Exedra.
Any news on fate of Exedra?
200 pesos - 1.5 hours.
Session OK.
Was in a hurry towards the end to service another guy who had promised $100 for 1 hr at Exedra.About the pics: Look like apartment 5B. I remember it well.
Any news on fate of Exedra?From the look of it as of this past Wednesday night you would not know anything is amiss. Same waiters, same girls, same everything so far.
Rock Harders
02-24-08, 19:07
Mongers,
I got the "official" word from two certified Exedra hookers who also frequent El Alamo. They said that at the end of February, Cafe Exedra will close for one month for "renovations". After that, they do not know the fate of Cafe Exedra, so what will happen after that monthlong closure is anybody's guess.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
I heard the same thing today as far as it closing at the end of Feb. And re-opening in a month, from a fairly reliable source, but who warned me that his source was only "fairly reliable" as well.
I further heard that there will be chicas there when it reopens, he mentioned as a cafeteria (but I'm not sure how different that is from what it is already, really) but the chicas will be required to pay a fee to park themselves (I think he mentioned a nightly fee) and will be allowed "by invite" only.
Should be interesting if that is the case. First thought is that it will probably drive the price up somewhat. But I also wonder how they will enforce requiring the chicas to pay. At first surely they will try, but will chicas end up flooding the place and things just end up returning to normal eventually.
And does this mean that Murta (whatever her name is! Has a place as the new ruler of chicas? Heh.
I got two "official" versions. One says that it will become a pizza parlour and the other that it will become a Rond Point type place.
I can assure you that neither the girls nor the waiters have a clue - only guessing and wishful thinking.
I don't expect we will see much of a change - a little in the décor - even the name Exedra will stay. Maybe at first they will limit the amount of girls but slowly it will go back to normal.
Mirta will never return. She never reigned over the girls and she was tolerated by the old owner because of her connections with the police.
Apparently Exedra management let the staff know today that this Friday is the last day. Beyond that nobody really knows how long they will be closed. Arnaldo is going to work at a restaurant at the corner of Esmeralda and Viamonte.
Mongers take note,
There is a middle aged (38 +) blond Brazilian woman at Excedra. Wears a bright blond pony tail or hair piled on top.
Sometimes wears a brown Janet Jackson hat.
She is really tan and always wears sleeveless dresses. Speaks really good english and has charm, carefull.
She has a stern look and wears very nice dresses. Black or white are her usual colors,
Never wears pants to cover her very tan stout legs. She is a bit thick but muscular. She hangs with other Brazilian blonds who are significantly younger and prettier.
Took her out for 165p and had a gfe as we walked to my apt 6 blocks away.
In apt, still on gfe. All changed in the bed.
No kissing. No finger diddle, and no DATY. She sucked and jerked my unit.
To the point of pain where I was ready to apply a soft whack to stop the abuse. After some convincing, she got on top and gave me an agressive grinding to finish.
Got a real vibe of sadism from this c*nt. We washed and nothing was stolen.
So that was a blessing. Shuffled her out the door and found where I made my mistake.
1. Did not discuss kissing, finger foreplay, DATY, cola, likes and dislikes.
She spoke english well so we jabbered on with my little head doing the thinking and not the monger shopper.
2. Paid before. BAD X 1,000,000 No recourse for bad performance.
Pure little head thinking.
3. Accepted too much physical domination and should have physically
countered her aggression. Never encountered this behavior before.
So take heed from my confession ASK and TELL what you want BEFORE.
You leave the table. If necessary, ask a fellow monger to help in the negotiation.
And, NEVER pay before. Make the payment timing discussion at the table.
Avoid this woman.
It all may be a moot point as E closes. She will be at Newport for sure.
Hope this saves somebody.
Jackpot
TejanoLibre
02-28-08, 20:01
Just come over to my place for dinner and we can hand select our dinner guests! Many of the best have come over and are interested in hanging out,
I realize that this subjct has been discussed but here we are again.
It would not be the same but it would be better than nothing. I think?
At least until X opens up again!
Take care,
Ramiro.
PS - Please stop by my birthday party on Sat. Night after 12:30 if you guys are in the hood! Free drinks and there should be some girls like always.
RustyJones
02-29-08, 16:27
Ok, so if I am in BA from the 11th to the 18th, where does everyone meet up so to speek? If X is closed there is nothing to do until Newports gets buzy at 1AM. Am I right?
I do get a sense that the owners / new owners want to get a piece of the action with the girls which they were not getting in the past. Sounds like they may just be shooting themselves in the foot! That's just my opinion. They had all of the guys coming there and spending thier money there for years. If worse case scenario they do limit the amount of girls and the girls have to pay a nightly fee then I see the prices going up and the selection going down. If the regular girls need to pay a fee every day they will go away.
So again during this transition time in March where wil everyone be meeting up?
Also I am reading more about casitas / Palermo area more. Is that now getting to be a viable alternative to the Micro Center and recoletta?
OK, this is March 1st, is Excedra closed?
Exon
OK, this is March 1st, is Excedra closed?
ExonWas there last night with some other mongers and left about 2AM. Word was they were closing at 4AM. Arnaldo was saying goodbye and handing out cards for his new restaurant. They even dug up the bush in the large concrete planter! A nice night save for the intrusion of some asshole canadian who was intent on looking for trouble. Not that all canadians are assholes, far from it, but this guy was a shining example of asshole.
Dogg,
There a few CockSucker's around and a MotherFucker or two also.
Thanks.
Exon
Dogg,
There a few CockSucker's around and a MotherFucker or two also.
Thanks.
ExonI was there, and believe this guy could have been described as a Motherfucking Cocksucker;)
Rockin Bob
03-02-08, 18:11
I passed by Exedra today. They have metal gates on the doors all chained and padlocked, crates of soda bottles are piled up behind the door so you can't see in, that's the story! Exedra is closed.
Man, I am sorry I wasn't there and drunk when the Canadian guy was the other night! Could have closed Exedra with some fireworks!
Question: where to next?
For sitting outside and just hanging around after dinner and before the clubs I suggest Madelein (across the road to Exedra) or maybe "My House" (the restaurant - not where I live) on Cordoba just before Florida (open 24 hours and a good place for a meal if it's too late to go to Ramiro's) and also with protected outside tables. That's for the mongers not wanting to move too far from the triangle.
Exedra probably won't be closed for too long and when the mongers return so will the girls and the owners won't dare Chase them all away when they the see hoards of wild eyed gringos occupying the place, waving inflated rubbers, chanting chica names and thumping on the tables.
Hey we could even get organized and form a movement! Something like Mongers for Chicas in Exedra - Any suggestions? No, Exon, Motherfuckers for Free Handjobs at Exedra wouldn't do!:)
RustyJones
03-03-08, 12:52
From what I have seen from other situations like this, when a type of club closes that everyone frequents, people scatter to the four winds. Things are never as they were due to many things and logistics.
But if some of the VERY senior members that are there in BA now can converse and agree on a place Very close and similar to X's that also would want to accept that business that X's has left scattered. Even though I like Alliance, I do not feel it is the answer to replace X's. Maybe I am being to much of a purist and still want the large outside cafe feel to it. But I also feel that a location of a cafe that is far inside the MC area may not be that best either. X's was better for me due to accessablity either from the MC area and the REC area, via taxi of course. But essentially, the location along that main BLVD just outside of MC was really choice! Maybe that cafe accross the street from X's would be good, but isn't it somewhat small? Compared to X's.
Opinions?
Rustyjones
TejanoLibre
03-04-08, 02:12
I believe that you are talking about La Madelaine which is accross the street from X.
Very few tables and the establishment tends to remove the girls that are obviously working or are very agressive.
Anyway, tonight a few of the girls came by my place and one of the old cats from X actually picked up one of my clients. That is her third client in about 8 days. And she is awful!
I need to have a talk with her soon.
Let's see what happens with X.
Take It!
TL
TejanoLibre
03-05-08, 21:54
The latest that I have heard is that the dead owner's son kept 51% of X for himself.
That's excellent if he actually sold it for 3.5 green ones!
I looked inside today and the cheap mf removed the plasma and the cheap 29 inch tv!
For 3.5 I would expect the guy to throw in the kitchen sink!
Wait and see what happens guys.
The girls will return if it is open.
Orleans is charging the girls 80 pesos to grab a table from 6 P. M until 2 A. M!
They will try to pass that cost on to you without a doubt!
La Madelaine is full. No tables available.
How about Iberia?
That is where the X girls should hang out.
Nice corner, recently restored, sidewalk cafe.
About 7 blocks away on Ave. De Mayo and Salta. (same as Libertad.)
They will have to lower their asking price by a hun or so to do business there.
I stole the best girl out of there over a year ago and the second best was caught with 4 keys at the airport!
Deborah. Hot little jailbird she is!
Take care,
TL
Thanks for the information TejanoLibre.
Inquireing minds want ro know.
Exon
RustyJones
03-06-08, 11:29
The girls will return if it is open.
Orleans is charging the girls 80 pesos to grab a table from 6 P. M until 2 A. M!
They will try to pass that cost on to you without a doubt!
How about Iberia? That is where the X girls should hang out. Nice corner, recently restored, sidewalk cafe. About 7 blocks away on Ave. De Mayo and Salta. (same as Libertad. They will have to lower their asking price by a hun or so to do business there.
TLI think what was already assumed from another post is that if X's reopens they will be charging the ladies to be there and will pick the ones that will be able to. So yes the ladies will come back (some of them) and the prices will go up and be similar to Orleans. Good thing for Orleans! Level playing field.
Iberia as you say may be similar to X's but it is actually (by map) 11-12 blocks away from X's outside of the mongers main traffic area (IMHO) That's not exactly god news too many guys that wish to walk to most of thier destinations in MicroCenter. We would be supporting the taxi service a lot more with that location. You think the ladies will lower thier prices to work there. I think they would rather work elsewhere that they can get the prices they wish. I did not say deserve, but the prices that they are used to from X's. From many of the posts in the past in here, some do and some do not (YOMV)
Rustyjones
Jaimito Cartero
03-06-08, 15:44
I looked inside today and the cheap mf removed the plasma and the cheap 29 inch tv!Actually given the number of people who probably have keys to the place, I'd say it's only common sense to take anything of real value out of there! Most of the security in Argentina is using low security locks, so more likely he's just protecting his ass, or took them out as his own property.
HairBalderman
03-06-08, 22:01
My source tells me that the Dominicans are working in Cafe Orleans.Does this mean you'll be flooding the ISG DR board with reports from BA? Just asking.
Would someone please report where all the girls have gone too.
Exon
Punter 127
03-06-08, 22:28
If anyone cares? And I am sure they don't!
My source tells me that the Dominicans are working in Cafe Orleans. you answered your own question, now please answer this.
Does this mean you'll be flooding the ISG DR board with reports from BA? Just asking. Very good question HairBalderman!
Punter 127
03-06-08, 23:28
Iberia as you say may be similar to X's but it is actually (by map) 11-12 blocks away from X's outside of the mongers main traffic area (IMHO) That's not exactly god news too many guys that wish to walk to most of thier destinations in MicroCenter. We would be supporting the taxi service a lot more with that location. You think the ladies will lower thier prices to work there. I think they would rather work elsewhere that they can get the prices they wish. I did not say deserve, but the prices that they are used to from X's. From many of the posts in the past in here, some do and some do not (YOMV)
RustyjonesActually I think Café Iberia is a good meeting place, and if the chicas show up all the better. Most of the chicas that worked at Exedra were asking more than they were worth and looking for that one big score; if they lower the price and go work at Café Iberia they may actually make some money. The last time I was in BsAs I spent some time at Café Iberia with some very experienced BsAs mongers and the general consciences was the place was ok and the prices are much less than Exedra. If you ’re really concerned about 11 to 12 blocks and the taxi cost, may I suggest the "colectivo" I think it cost a peso or less now.
Actually I think Café Iberia is a good meeting place, and if the chicas show up all the better. Most of the chicas that worked at Exedra were asking more than they were worth and looking for that one big score; if they lower the price and go work at Café Iberia they may actually make some money. The last time I was in BsAs I spent some time at Café Iberia with some very experienced BsAs mongers and the general consciences was the place was ok and the prices are much less than Exedra. If you 're really concerned about 11 to 12 blocks and the taxi cost, may I suggest the "colectivo " I think it cost a peso or less now.I agree with Punter-Iberia is the best replacement for Exedra. Maidelaines (sp) is too small and there aint much else. And if you can't find your way from the Triangle area or Exedra-shame on you. Cab, colectivo or hoof it.
From what I can see there is a whole lot of nothing going on renovation wise at Exedra. Not a good sign.
RustyJones
03-07-08, 00:43
Actually I think Café Iberia is a good meeting place, and if the chicas show up all the better. Most of the chicas that worked at Exedra were asking more than they were worth and looking for that one big score; if they lower the price and go work at Café Iberia they may actually make some money. The last time I was in BsAs I spent some time at Café Iberia with some very experienced BsAs mongers and the general consciences was the place was ok and the prices are much less than Exedra. If you 're really concerned about 11 to 12 blocks and the taxi cost, may I suggest the "colectivo " I think it cost a peso or less now.Punter I think I will pass on the "colectivo".
Still feel that since the ladies have been living it up at X's it would be very difficult to go back to making half or 2/3's of what they are used to. I think the opposite would be true that the prices at Iberia would increase. Remember that in essence you are discussing moving the "escort business" that X's had to Iberia. That's just geography nothing more.
Rustyjones
Jaimito Cartero
03-07-08, 04:28
If Exedra changes to a Orleans style pay for play system, I'm sure that many serious mongers will just take a pass on it. Honestly, getting a decent chica for even 150p has been tough there of late.
I'm hoping that my 5 weeks in BA later this month will give me lots of time to explore new places. No park cruising with Mo, though.:)
Punter 127
03-07-08, 08:53
Supply and Demand - General Economics and geography.
Punter I think I will pass on the "colectivo".
Still feel that since the ladies have been living it up at X's it would be very difficult to go back to making half or 2/3's of what they are used to. I think the opposite would be true that the prices at Iberia would increase. Remember that in essence you are discussing moving the "escort business" that X's had to Iberia. That's just geography nothing more.
Rustyjones Supply and Demand are you kidding? There is more working pussy in BsAs than you can shake a stick at; the Big E was just the tip of the iceberg! A large number of these chica were not making a living at Exedra, as I said before they were just hoping for a big score from some dumb Yankee! The ones that are able to move on to big clubs will, but most will go back to just fucking locals, which how they make there “living ”. You need to remember not every club or café will let the in.
BTW the colectivo system in BsAs is pretty good and lots of the mongers on this board ride it, I ’ve been on it several times myself.
BTW the colectivo system in BsAs is pretty good and lots of the mongers on this board ride it, I 've been on it several times myself.I ride the busses frequently here. They are exceptionally cheap at 90 centavos, often less hassle than the subte, I've never been bothered by anyone and they get you where you are going. As far as the geography between Exedra and Iberia, it's only a matter of blocks! Plus, you can have a nice meal at the old spanish restaurant across the street from Iberia (the name escapes me at the moment-thay also have outdoor tables) As I have said before, there is no good replacement for Exedra, but Iberia will probably be the closest thing you can find. And that said, it may suck.:)
RustyJones
03-07-08, 11:25
Supply and Demand are you kidding? There is more working pussy in BsAs than you can shake a stick at; the Big E was just the tip of the iceberg! A large number of these chica were not making a living at Exedra, as I said before they were just hoping for a big score from some dumb Yankee! The ones that are able to move on to big clubs will, but most will go back to just fucking locals, which how they make there "living ". You need to remember not every club or café will let the in. So you are saying that if lets say one of Madaho's, Black's or Newports would close down and a new place would be opened up a few blocks away with all of the same ladies and the same types of men frequenting the new place that were in the old place the prices would go down just due to the fact that it is no longer at that original location? Maybe that's too simplistic of a way to comment but I think that is what is being said.
Not that I wold put X's on the same level of the three places above but we all know it was a very well known place just like the three above for meeting chicas.
Due to "only a few blocks difference" and if most of the AP and other mongers start to hang out there, the ladies will get the hint. Many of the ladies that were at X's will start to hangout at the new place. Word will spread quickly I think. At that pont you have only changed the venue and the same games that existed at X's will exist at the new place.
Now I would agree with you if it would only be a very few of the AP or mongering crowd and a few of the ladies. Then the very few of the new ladies would have to compete with the original ladies at the new place.
I think though if the new place sees a large influx of guys to meet ladies on a normal basis as a replacement to X's, things will change at the new place.
Oh and Punter you taught me well on my first visit about the goings on. So I know I am not one of those people you mentioned.
Rustyjones
Punter 127
03-07-08, 23:31
So you are saying that if lets say one of Madaho's, Black's or Newports would close down and a new place would be opened up a few blocks away with all of the same ladies and the same types of men frequenting the new place that were in the old place the prices would go down just due to the fact that it is no longer at that original location? Maybe that's too simplistic of a way to comment but I think that is what is being said.
Not that I wold put X's on the same level of the three places above but we all know it was a very well known place just like the three above for meeting chicas.
Due to "only a few blocks difference" and if most of the AP and other mongers start to hang out there, the ladies will get the hint. Many of the ladies that were at X's will start to hangout at the new place. Word will spread quickly I think. At that pont you have only changed the venue and the same games that existed at X's will exist at the new place.
Now I would agree with you if it would only be a very few of the AP or mongering crowd and a few of the ladies. Then the very few of the new ladies would have to compete with the original ladies at the new place.
I think though if the new place sees a large influx of guys to meet ladies on a normal basis as a replacement to X's, things will change at the new place.
Oh and Punter you taught me well on my first visit about the goings on. So I know I am not one of those people you mentioned.
Rustyjones What I'm saying is Café Iberia does not have the size or the location of Exedra and I don't think it will ever be an Exedra, but it would be a good meeting place. As far all your other what ifs, I think you're just beating a dead mule. Have you ever even been to Café Iberia?
If I was talking about you I would have used your name, I don ’t beat around the bush much. As for what I taught you, well all I can say is you can lead a horse to water, but it ’s up to the horse rather or not he drinks.
Still feel that since the ladies have been living it up at X's it would be very difficult to go back to making half or 2/3's of what they are used to. I think the opposite would be true that the prices at Iberia would increase. Remember that in essence you are discussing moving the "escort business" that X's had to Iberia. That's just geography nothing more.
RustyjonesRusty,
You seem hell-bent on proving that the same pricing structure will follow the girls to Iberia. I agree with you, you can prove this to be the case - by walking into Iberia with the normally allocated 200-300p in your hand and telling the first girl you meet that you are giving her 200-300p for her services. See you were right (and Punter was an idiot for thinking otherwise)
Here is the point: you are the demand, and the girls are the supply. They have virtually no control over the supply, other than limiting the number of newly issued union cards. But you have complete control over your personal demand. If you guys walk into Iberia with the mindset that you will not be paying Exedra prices due to the distance, the color of the walls, or whatever - and prove this by leaving empty handed on more than one occasion, then things will change (or you will have to find a another location with your price-point)
A year ago Iberia was about 80-100p for a very average girl. I do not have recent data. The beauty of BsAs and Argentina is that there is something for everyone - 20p to 2000p. Your money, your dick, be happy!
However, to say that the pricing structure can not be changed is nonsense. Ask any Argentine about lifestyle changes around January 2002. Argentines have proven they can endure hardships, the question remains what has been learned from them.
Guess I will have to head over to Iberia tonight, to prove or disprove my assertions.
Rusty,
I suggest you take Econ 101 A when you go back to sex prison.
Do you have the b*lls to offer less and try to make a deal with the girls of Big E?
Stop whinning and just be a monger.
Jackpot
Mostly empty tables. Five incredibly fuglies and a librarian at 11pm sat.El Sid- I agree. Very bleak. See my post on Cafe Iberia. A much better alternative though much different than Exedra in some ways. A vast improvement over Maddys however.
. Plus, you can have a nice meal at the old spanish restaurant across the street from Iberia (the name escapes me at the moment-thay also have outdoor tables)I think that you are speaking on my "cantina" called Plaza Asturias.
By the way, mi friend, an usual worker in New Port, is complaining of the numerous girls from Exedra that are now working in New Port, making the hunt of a gringo more difficult.
I think that you are speaking on my "cantina" called Plaza Asturias.
By the way, mi friend, an usual worker in New port, is complaining of the numerous girls from Exedra that are now working in New port, making the hunt of a gringo more difficult.Good for the Exedra girls! Newport needs some shaking up.
WorldTravel69
03-09-08, 17:49
Here is a couple of photos.
I have my theory of BA. In a nut shell it's this -
Sta Fe Avenue - Rich girls that don't have to look good because they are going to marry rich husbands whatever happens. Sloppily dressed and don't give a flying fuck!
Cordoba Avenue - middle class girls working in offices hoping to find a wealthy husband so they dress and produce themselves accordingly - Hot!
Corrientes Avenue - Every girl from the provinces has to have her photo taken on Corrientes with the Obelisco in the back ground to send home to prove she is really in BA. Pathetic!
Avda de Mayo - Sensible girls working as secretaries in legal buffets. Comfortable flat heeled shoes and drab coloured clothes. Most already married to highschool boy friends now plumbers or carpenters or bus drivers. Middle class Wives!
Go a little more South, San Juan or Garay avenues and you'll get fucked for 40 pesos. But don't expect more than ten or twenty minutes from a girl. Don't even mention TLN as her clients barely have ten minutes to fuck before catching the train home and she couldn't even dream of spending a whole night with a client at whatever price. Hey, some of them could look as hot as any Cordoba Av. Girl but they have that beaten down attitude that I call "toothless fucks"
I love Avda de Mayo, and no matter where the girls come from, Exedra, Black or wherever, the pricing will be according to the location. An invasion of gringo mongers may vary a little the pricing but the girls on Avda de Mayo expect to get plumbers and bus drivers as customers and price accordingly.
And Iberia is a good place for the Avda de Mayo experience with quite a few decent priced restaurants around but don't expect much English spoken in the area.
Jaimito Cartero
03-12-08, 02:04
Several other hefty's working there about 11pmShe's not pregnant again, is she?
Punter 127
03-12-08, 09:05
She's not pregnant again, is she?Yes she is, I think I reported that last month.
Yes she is, I think I reported that last month.Maybe she's looking to get into the milkmaid business. That girl is all about "leche".:)
Jaimito Cartero
03-15-08, 16:34
Yes she is, I think I reported that last month.Was that in the lactating chicas thread?:D
Punter 127
03-15-08, 19:55
Was that in the lactating chicas thread?:DNope;
http://argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?p=380472#post380472
I've been seeing some of the chicas who worked at Exedra. Last night I had one over, and we started talking about Exedra. She told me that the waiters have not been paid. By law in Argentina, they have to get a payment based on how long they worked at Exedra. Some of the waiters have worked there close to 20 years, so it's a few years pay.
She said that the son of the owner who died, owed allot of money, and took the money from the sale, to pay it off. The waiters are going to take the place to court, unless they get their money, which would delay it's re-opening. She also said she has not seen any renovations being done, it looks the same. I have not been there since they closed, so I have no idea.
Jaimito Cartero
03-21-08, 22:43
La Mad. Has already increased their prices!They were too expensive when I went there last month. Even more is ridiculous.
La Mad. Has already increased their prices!What's the address of La Mad, do not see it listed on the forum page.
HairBalderman
03-22-08, 00:09
What's the address of La Mad, do not see it listed on the forum page.It is a cafe on the corner of Cordoba and Carlos Pelligrini. Opposite what used to be Cafe Exedra.
I've been seeing some of the chicas who worked at Exedra. Last night I had one over, and we started talking about Exedra. She told me that the waiters have not been paid. By law in Argentina, they have to get a payment based on how long they worked at Exedra. Some of the waiters have worked there close to 20 years, so it's a few years pay.
She said that the son of the owner who died, owed allot of money, and took the money from the sale, to pay it off. The waiters are going to take the place to court, unless they get their money, which would delay it's re-opening. She also said she has not seen any renovations being done, it looks the same. I have not been there since they closed, so I have no idea.I said some time back that the waiters were going to get fucked and some of the tradesmen.
By law in Argentina, they have to get a payment based on how long they worked at Exedra. Some of the waiters have worked there close to 20 years, so it's a few years pay. From what I understand, it is usually 3-4 months notice pay plus 1 months pay for every year worked. So with an employee who has been working for 20 years, you are looking at about 23-24 months in severance pay. The workers will get the money eventually. It just seems like the owner is an asshole and an idiot.
Regards,
BM.
From what I understand, it is usually 3-4 months notice pay plus 1 months pay for every year worked. So an employee who has been working for 20 years, you are looking at about 23-24 months in severance pay. The workers will get the money eventually. It just seems like the owner is an asshole and an idiot.
Regards,
BM.I agree - the owner is an asshole but he's no idiot! He'll end up paying the workers in monthly instalments where he'll "forget" to pay every two or three months and the worker has to get a court order "reminding" him to pay or even worse, he'll file for bankruptcy and never pay anything again. (opening his next business in his wife's name etc)
I said this would happen some months ago.
http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4484
These labor laws protect the Argentine workers. It's why Argentina is one of the world's great economic powerhouses. Viva Perón!
These labor laws protect the Argentine workers. It's why Argentina is one of the world's great economic powerhouses. Viva Perón!I have some clients in town from Amsterdam, and when I explained these peculiar Argentine labor practices to them. They said it sounded much like Amsterdam. And then they said it sounded alot more like France.
Regards,
BM
I have some clients in town from Amsterdam, and when I explained these peculiar Argentine labor practices to them. They said it sounded much like Amsterdam. And then they said it sounded alot more like France.
Regards,
BM.I've worked in both France and Argentina (I am from the US) The labor laws here are much more like the US than France.
The only real difference I see between Argentina and the US is that they are required by law to pay severence, but the severance you receive is very similar to what you would receive in the US (being layed off from a white color job, for example).
But like many things here, what the law says and what actually happens aren't always the same thing.
In France, depending how long you have been with a company, it is typical to get a year's severance. I know people who have gotten over 2. Also, in France, there are laws that prevent companies from laying people off without sufficient reason (keeping the stock price up generally isn't considered sufficient reason).
Yes. But closing the business is sufficient reason, one of the very few ones, even in Europe (France and Germany are not so far apart, France might be even worse)
We had a big scandal a few months ago, Nokia closed a factory in Bochum. The place was highly profitable, and it's opening a few years earlier subsidized by government money. 2600 people on the streets. It's cheaper to build them fuckíng cell phones in Romania.
I'd love to know the real story of what happend at Excedra.
Walked by their today and nothing has been done, almost a month now. The place just sits there empty with no activity. The place was a gold mine and now its nothing. Plus now everyone is out on the street with no real place to go.
Its really ashame, what a waste.
Exon
I'd love to know the real story of what happend at Excedra.
Walked by their today and nothing has been done, almost a month now. The place just sits there empty with no activity. The place was a gold mine and now its nothing. Plus now everyone is out on the street with no real place to go.
Its really ashame, what a waste.
ExonJust taking one very important variable in figuring out this mess-look at the owner! What a weaselly looking little fucker he is. Seems to me Exedra was likely fucked as soon as the old man kicked the bucket.
Just taking one very important variable in figuring out this mess-look at the owner! What a weaselly looking little fucker he is. Seems to me Exedra was likely fucked as soon as the old man kicked the bucket.Probably so Dogg.
But what I can't understand is why shut down a perfectly good, profitable business and do nothing with it for almost a month now.
What I'm trying to say is why not keep it running until the very last minute. If renovations are going to be made and a new business plan put in place why not wait until everything is ready, then shut it down.
Counting the girls, the street erchen's, (Flower girls and the like) waiters, bartenders, kitchen people and so on, almost a 100 people have been displaced. Plus a months revenue, which is not "chump change" by the way.
Nothing seems to add up, so there must be some story we'll never know thats forced this change of events.
Exon
Just taking one very important variable in figuring out this mess-look at the owner! What a weaselly looking little fucker he is. Seems to me Exedra was likely fucked as soon as the old man kicked the bucket.I was told last night that the guy I thought was the owner of Exedra is actually not the owner. Mea culpa. Though the real owner is probably a jerk as well.:)
In today's "Critica" newspaper there is a full page article on Exedra - Quite interesting!
If I have time, later on this evening I'll translate it.
Rockin Bob
03-23-08, 15:11
Yes, Aqualung, I was just about to post.
Critica is a new tabloid in BsAs. You'll see in the upper left Se Vendio Excedra, La Catedral del Gato - El Ultimo Maullido.
Exedra has been sold, the Cathedral of the Cat - The Last Meow
Rockin Bob
03-23-08, 16:14
This is the best I can do. Aqualung, anybody else, please correct me where I'm wrong! There's a couple of things I couldn't figure out!
A Temple of Chicas and Night Owls Has Closed.
Severo Pereyra died of a heart attack November 6, 2006, completing 32 years of being in charge of Exedra, the classic confiteria on the corner of Carlos Pelligrini and Cordoba, known as "the bar with the most famous putas of the Capital Federal." Since then, the 22 waiters and more than 40 prostitutes that filled the tables endured a long agonizing wait that ended March 1, when the place changed owners, following a deal made by Rafael Rereira Aragón, owner of Rond Point, Las Violetas and the Café de los Angelitos. The price was 1.3 million dollars and the place is now closed for rennovations. It's a bummer (sorry, that's the only word I can up with for bajón! For us, complained Vanina, a 35 year old prostitute who had worked "for years" in the bar. Seated at a table of a bar nearby, she looked sadly at the facade of Exedra and wondered when it would reopen.
At its table appeared politicians, sindicalistas (my dictionary says trade unionists) Writers, actors, celebrities, murderers, rogues, lawyers and generations of prostitutes and unfaithful men. "The Exedra girls were legendary" said Manolo, ex-partner and right hand man of the deceased Pereyra." It is best known as a home for putas, put one to which putas came for 34 years. The difference isn't small. We never had girls working for us, but we always tried to have the most interesting for a very interesting clientele." According to waiters and customers, 16 generations of putas have passed through Exedra. "We've encountered girls who were in their 20's back in the 70's and now are grandmothers," said Manolo.
Para los códigos de la calle: For the codes of the street? Exedra was an institution. With 98 tables available 24 hours a day, it opened for business November 5, 1974 and closed only one day in 34 years. In its best times, it served five thousand people a day. (Cinco mil, that's what it says! In the month before it closed, there were 1,500 people a day, a drop off of 30% with respect to 2007. (I think that's more or less the idea!
At the end of 1974 it was one of the first places that Carlos Menem hung out in after he became governor of La Rioja. Jorge Luis Borges and Mar[ia Kodama were also regulars. Also found at its tables were the writers Ernesto Sábato and Silvina Bullrich, the tango singer Edmundo Rivero and Javier Portales came to have a drink after dining at Edelweiss with Alberto Olmedo.
A large number of soccer players could be found leaning on the bar. Old employees remember César Luis Menotti, Carlos Salvador Bilardo, Carlos Bianchi, Beto Márcico and the ex-referees Javier Castrilli and Guillermo Nimo.
"It's better to ask who didn't come to Exedra," answered Manolo when asked to reconstruct a list of the clientele. "We were the first to open up downtown. In the beginning we didn't have any competition. Then you could park in the middle of 9 de Julio. There was only Rond Point and Café Tabak, that always maintained their level," remembered Manolo. Between '74 and '75 the bar also had customers like Marcos Osatinsky and Robert Quieto, two founders and directors of Montoneros that held large meetings there.
In its first years, the bar didn't have the usual bar tables. It was full of "exedras," sillones semicirculares (semicircular chairs, barstools? Like they had in bars in Las Vegas. From that came the name of the bar: in ancient Rome that was what they called curved semicolumnas with seats to converse in the open air. "After the military coup, Exedra was like Casablanca, on one side the repressers and on the other the guerrillas," recalled Manolo. "Also during those years many special forces came in and drank whiskey and we asked them tolets us keep the firearms (fierros) behind the bar."
With the return of democracy, the sindicalistas returned. They had made a wage agreement and celebrated with drinks and girls for all, for about 500 to 700 dollars. The waiters remebered that the ex secretary general of the CGT, Saúl Ubaldini had been a regular (iba seguido)
The secrecy and discretion were the conditions that allowed Exedra to function for so many years. Maybe for that various criminals were able to sit at the tables with such impunity. "Even though it was open to the public, it was also a place of trampa (trampa. Shady dealings, more or less) It was a unique place: there was always one place where a family was eating dinner alongside a chica talking with a client." said Manolo.
After the economic crisis of 2001 it was on the point of closing, but the devaluation of the peso meant a new commercial opportunity, although the last years were marked by the diminishing popularity of that part of the city. On March 1st the curtain came down. "I hope that everything inside doesn't end up in a dumpster," said Manolo with a worried voice. Many pass by at night on the corner to find out when the place will reopen. "But it seems that we're running out of time (Pero parece que falta tiempo)" said the old owners (antiguos dueńos) For them, the chicas and the former waiters, "Exedra won't ever be the same" why sus secretos quedarán guardados para siempre.
This is the best I can do. Aqualung, anybody else, please correct me where I'm wrong! There's a couple of things I couldn't figure out!
A Temple of Chicas and Night Owls Has Closed.
Severo Pereyra died of a heart attack November 6, 2006, completing 32 years of being in charge of Exedra, the classic confiteria on the corner of Carlos Pelligrini and Cordoba, known as "the bar with the most famous putas of the Capital Federal." Since then, the 22 waiters and more than 40 prostitutes that filled the tables endured a long agonizing wait that ended March 1, when the place changed owners, following a deal made by Rafael Rereira Aragón, owner of Rond Point, Las Violetas and the Café de los Angelitos. The price was 1.3 million dollars and the place is now closed for rennovations. It's a bummer (sorry, that's the only word I can up with for bajón! For us, complained Vanina, a 35 year old prostitute who had worked "for years" in the bar. Seated at a table of a bar nearby, she looked sadly at the facade of Exedra and wondered when it would reopen.
At its table appeared politicians, sindicalistas (my dictionary says trade unionists. Writers, actors, celebrities, murderers, rogues, lawyers and generations of prostitutes and unfaithful men. "The Exedra girls were legendary" said Manolo, ex-partner and right hand man of the deceased Pereyra." It is best known as a home for putas, put one to which putas came for 34 years. The difference isn't small. We never had girls working for us, but we always tried to have the most interesting for a very interesting clientele." According to waiters and customers, 16 generations of putas have passed through Exedra. "We've encountered girls who were in their 20's back in the 70's and now are grandmothers," said Manolo.
Para los códigos de la calle: For the codes of the street? Exedra was an institution. With 98 tables available 24 hours a day, it opened for business November 5, 1974 and closed only one day in 34 years. In its best times, it served five thousand people a day. (Cinco mil, that's what it says! In the month before it closed, there were 1,500 people a day, a drop off of 30% with respect to 2007. (I think that's more or less the idea!
At the end of 1974 it was one of the first places that Carlos Menem hung out in after he became governor of La Rioja. Jorge Luis Borges and Mar[ia Kodama were also regulars. Also found at its tables were the writers Ernesto Sábato and Silvina Bullrich, the tango singer Edmundo Rivero and Javier Portales came to have a drink after dining at Edelweiss with Alberto Olmedo.
A large number of soccer players could be found leaning on the bar. Old employees remember César Luis Menotti, Carlos Salvador Bilardo, Carlos Bianchi, Beto Márcico and the ex-referees Javier Castrilli and Guillermo Nimo.
"It's better to ask who didn't come to Exedra," answered Manolo when asked to reconstruct a list of the clientele. "We were the first to open up downtown. In the beginning we didn't have any competition. Then you could park in the middle of 9 de Julio. There was only Rond Point and Café Tabak, that always maintained their level," remembered Manolo. Between '74 and '75 the bar also had customers like Marcos Osatinsky and Robert Quieto, two founders and directors of Montoneros that held large meetings there.
In its first years, the bar didn't have the usual bar tables. It was full of "exedras," sillones semicirculares (semicircular chairs, barstools? Like they had in bars in Las Vegas. From that came the name of the bar: in ancient Rome that was what they called curved semicolumnas with seats to converse in the open air. "After the military coup, Exedra was like Casablanca, on one side the repressers and on the other the guerrillas," recalled Manolo. "Also during those years many special forces came in and drank whiskey and we asked them tolets us keep the firearms (fierros) behind the bar."
With the return of democracy, the sindicalistas returned. They had made a wage agreement and celebrated with drinks and girls for all, for about 500 to 700 dollars. The waiters remebered that the ex secretary general of the CGT, Saúl Ubaldini had been a regular (iba seguido)
The secrecy and discretion were the conditions that allowed Exedra to function for so many years. Maybe for that various criminals were able to sit at the tables with such impunity. "Even though it was open to the public, it was also a place of trampa (trampa. Shady dealings, more or less) It was a unique place: there was always one place where a family was eating dinner alongside a chica talking with a client." said Manolo.
After the economic crisis of 2001 it was on the point of closing, but the devaluation of the peso meant a new commercial opportunity, although the last years were marked by the diminishing popularity of that part of the city. On March 1st the curtain came down. "I hope that everything inside doesn't end up in a dumpster," said Manolo with a worried voice. Many pass by at night on the corner to find out when the place will reopen. "But it seems that we're running out of time (Pero parece que falta tiempo)" said the old owners (antiguos dueńos) For them, the chicas and the former waiters, "Exedra won't ever be the same" why sus secretos quedarán guardados para siempre.It's says nothing about the waiter not getting paid or going to court?
That's a good translation Bob!
I was trying to recall when I started going there and remembered it was during the 1978 soccer World Cup held here in Argentina then during the 90's I had an office right up above it on the 4th floor!
Now I'm getting all sentimental and mushy! Hahahahahahahaha
Thank You Rockin Bob, great post.
But it still doesn't answer my question "WHY"
One thing the owners son must be a piece of shit. And the new owners must have shit for brains, why close it down before your ready for renovations, look at all the cash flow the've lost.
One thing is starting to make sense, why Mirta, (Hilda) left. She told me she'd worked the door at Excedra for over 20 years, then suddenly left. Now we know the reason. The CockSucker son of the former owner drive her out of their.
Again great post of the history.
Exon
Rockin Bob
03-23-08, 18:16
Here's the translation of the sidebar, Refugio de varias generaciones de represores.
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Refuge of Various Generations of Oppressors.
From the beginning Exedra was an unavoidable stop of porteńa nightlife. Perhaps that's why the spies of SIDE classified the corner as "level 10." "It meant it was off-limits. Why? I don't know, but one of them told me that," said Manolo, alluding to one of the customers of the bar. This group of clients was headed by general Carlso Albert Martínez, chief of SIDE in the time of Videla. Exedra is located at Córdoba 999 and at the same time that the bar opened its doors, the private security firm Magister began operations on the sixth floor of 991: a lair created by military intelligence before the miltary coup, out of which operated a task force set up by general Paladino. The gang was commanded by the torturer Aníbal Gordon along with Eduardo Alfredo Ruffo, José Miguel Save, and el Indio Castillo, among others. During the day, at one of the tables that faced Córdoba, with the return of democracy, the presence of Gordon changed to that of his persuer: the deceased Guillermo Patricio Kelly, who sat in the same place since 1985 trying to capture him.
In the 90', the heaviness (la pesada) didn't leave the place. The offices of Alfredo Yabrán were two blocks away from the bar for twenty years, and one of the customers was the retired commander Adolfo Donda Tigel, aka "Jerónimo" or "Palito," who as chief of intelligence oversaw the taskforce of ESMA (Escuela de Mecánica de la Armada) and in those years was the key man in the private security agency Brides (brigadas de la ESMA) one of the business run by the emresario telepostal who died by suicide, alone and abandoned (referring to Yabrán)
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Here are some links to fill you in on the details. Interesting reading!
http://www.desaparecidos.org/arg/to.../donda/eng.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Yabr%C3%A1n
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...756C0A96E958260
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...75AC0A961948260
Rockin Bob
03-23-08, 18:20
Just in case anybody was wondering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exedra
Just in case anybody was wondering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExedraThanks for all the info Rockin. Much appreciated.
But it still doesn't answer my question "WHY"
Why close it down before your ready for renovations, look at all the cash flow the've lost.I'm asking myself the same as you, Exon.
But you'll learn as time goes by that Argentina is a curious and non logic place when you talk about bussines.
No Caveman,
I'm quite aware of prosperess business that have been shut down for no apparent reason. Restaruant row in Recoleta a prime example. The owners of those building will never recover the lost revenue and the place is still a shambles.
But Exedra is another story. Thanks to Rocken Bob I now know a little of its history, what a famious place, "The Temple of Cats". What a story of a remarkable place all of us enjoyed.
Not knowing the financial structure, the overhead, rent, ect, ect the price of $1,300,000 seams cheap. They were charging an arm & a leg and the place was always full 24/7. Theres got to be a reason the old mans son sold, thats what I'm driving at --- WHY?
Exon
Rock Harders
03-23-08, 20:42
Mongers-
I hate to piss on everyone's Exedra love parade here, but the bottom line here is that Exedra was probably not nearly as profitable a business venture as one might think. First of all, just how much money do you think is being made off a group of 5 guys, drinking one 10 peso coffee each, sitting there for 3-4 hours? Not much! In addition, the article said they had 22 waiters, which probably means they had at least 6-10 kitchen / cleaning staff. So we are talking minimum 30 employees, which is ridiculous from an owners standpoint, that is minimum $100,000 AR per month of payroll expenses. In a bar business (where margins are much larger than cafe business) you need to have at least $2000 AR per week in sales per employee to break even. On top of all this, you have 21% IVA, 3% ingresos brutos, and impuestos ganancias (they definitely payed the first two, but maybe not the latter) Naturally, you then have the "extra" expenses which go along with the operation of a prostitution rendezvous point, which could range into the thousands of pesos monthly. All these hefty fixed costs plus the nature of the low turnover, low margin sales scheme in place combined with declining gross sales led the owner to dump the place for $1.3 million USD, and from a business standpoint, you cannot really blame him.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
Rockin Bob
03-23-08, 21:46
Man, if I just inherited a restaurant that I could sell for 1.3 million bucks I'd have the For Sale sign up in a New York minute.
Today a quite interesting article about the history of this cafe was published in a local newspaper. If you can read Spanish or manage to go through it using an online translator, it could be an interesting activity (labor union leaders, famous writers, secret agents and escorts involved):
http://www.criticadigital.com/impresa/index.php?secc=nota&nid=1450
All the best
Mongers-
I hate to piss on everyone's Exedra love parade here, but the bottom line here is that Exedra was probably not nearly as profitable a business venture as one might think. First of all, just how much money do you think is being made off a group of 5 guys, drinking one 10 peso coffee each, sitting there for 3-4 hours? Not much! In addition, the article said they had 22 waiters, which probably means they had at least 6-10 kitchen / cleaning staff. So we are talking minimum 30 employees, which is ridiculous from an owners standpoint, that is minimum $100,000 AR per month of payroll expenses. In a bar business (where margins are much larger than cafe business) you need to have at least $2000 AR per week in sales per employee to break even. On top of all this, you have 21% IVA, 3% ingresos brutos, and impuestos ganancias (they definitely payed the first two, but maybe not the latter) Naturally, you then have the "extra" expenses which go along with the operation of a prostitution rendezvous point, which could range into the thousands of pesos monthly. All these hefty fixed costs plus the nature of the low turnover, low margin sales scheme in place combined with declining gross sales led the owner to dump the place for $1.3 million USD, and from a business standpoint, you cannot really blame him.
Suerte,
Dirk DigglerDirk,
Not withstanding the validity of your argument, but at 1,500 customers a day (per the article), at just $11 pesos each, then Exedra was a $500k peso per month business, against which a $100k payroll would appear reasonable.
Thanks,
Jackson
Man, if I just inherited a restaurant that I could sell for 1.3 million bucks I'd have the For Sale sign up in a New York minute.Here's the difference.
Knowing the restaurant was worth a million bucks or so, I'd be much more interested in the cash flow, rather than the million in cash. This way "I'd have my cake and eat it too". I could always sell it if need be, but in the mean time I'd have a money machine and live "High off the Hog", plus a million bucks tucked away.
What most of the Mongers that post here don't realize is, "Money is not Important, Unless there's not enough of it". Thats when money becomes important, when you don't have enough of it. Until then its an insignificant tool we use to navigate threw life.
Sorry Dirk, I'm with Jackson below, Exedra made enough money to satisfy all my creature comforts, at least here in Buenos Aires. I mean any "Dumb MotherFucker" can spend money, that doesn't take any brains. If the numbers written below are true, your looking at 10 thousand dollars a month or so profit. How much can you spend before everyone starts looking at you as a "Stupid CockSucker". Moreover, what do you really need in Buenos Aires that would cost more that $10,000 dollars a month.
I'da kept the restaurant.
Exon
Your use of the word "Assuming" is the key to this deal.
We don't know the deal, we only know the price of the deal, a million, three, there are always deals with in deals.
Say for example, the owner that died owned Exedra out right and paid no rent. After 34 years thats a good possibility, frankly its more that likely he did given the stated price. If thats the case then a Million, Three is not out of the ball park. That being the case, $10,000 dollars a month is roughly a 10 precent return on invested capital. I can live with that all day everyday.
But were be-laboring the point. Its been my experience that Porteno's are not famious for over paying. If the new owner dropped down 1.3 million US he got more than a lease, don't you think. I mean would you drop that kind of money down just for the privledge of paying 10 to 20 thousand peso's a month in rent. Then close it down and not give a Fuck.
I'm saddend by the fact that it "IS" closed down and a real piece of Argentine history is gone forever and none of us can monger their again. It was the one place we could all monger on a relaxed basis and not get soked on drink prices. Plus I personally considered many of the employee's and girls that worked there friends.
Exon
Rockin Bob
03-24-08, 14:46
Today a quite interesting article about the history of this cafe was published in a local newspaper. If you can read Spanish or manage to go through it using an online translator, it could be an interesting activity (labor union leaders, famous writers, secret agents and escorts involved):
http://www.criticadigital.com/impresa/index.php?secc=nota&nid=1450
All the bestGo back a few posts, Guiller! It's all translated, secret agent sidebar and all.
But thanks for the link, didn't know it was on-line.
100,000 pesos divided by 22 employes= about $1,500 USD per month, average per employe. Seems much too high for AR wages.Actually, accepting Dirk's number of 32 employees, which would include kitchen and cleaning staff, divided into 100k = $3,125 per employee per month. Subtracting out Argentina's 70% payroll burden yields an average salary of $1,840 per employee, which in today's inflationary environment appears reasonable. Hell, the encargado of my building gets paid $3,000 pesos a month.
Thanks,
Jackson
Obviously we can't know the motivation behind the seller and as we all know, there are many different reasons for someone to sell a business.
Does the price include the real estate? Did they have title to the lot on the corner? I'm sorry - I haven't picked up on that yet. If so, then the business itself is getting a lower valuation than $1.3M, as I imagine the land price takes up a nice piece of the purchase price.
But then that leads on to the question of whether you'd sell property today in central Buenos Aires. This is probably a discussion for another thread, but I'd have to take a hard look at where I think property values are going.
Actually, the return is nearer 9%. I would never accept that low of a return. I would require 20+% return on my capital to own an AR business. Oh well, It's all assumptions anyway!If you can get 9 or 10% above inflation, it's not a bad investment. Inflation in Argentina is running about 20%. If he can raze prices every year by inflation, and keep a minimum of 9% profit on top of that, that not bad place to put your money. Plus it's not clear if he owns the space too, that value of the real estate should go up over time too. One of the best defenses against hyperinflation is property.
WorldTravel69
04-10-08, 04:00
Lately there have a lot of Chicas from Exedra still there, standing in front waiting for you. The drinks do not cost anything, because the bar is closed, but you can get one nearby at La Madeleine or at l'Alliance.
Tonight there was a least 5 to 10 at different times.
Librarian 3 is there and at La Mads and Castelar, with a couple her blond amigas.
Jaimito Cartero
04-10-08, 21:59
And which are the bad ones? I see lots there, but have only pulled a few of them.
WorldTravel69
04-16-08, 20:15
Sorry guys, it does not look good for the future of Exedra.
At this very moment there is an auction going on. All the kitchen utensils and glassware. If you guys want glasses with their logo on it, you had better hurry.
You might have trouble finding the place, because it is so fucking smoggy, you will have a hard time seeing it from across 9 de Julio.
I bet they do not have smog alerts in B.A.
I thought I was in L. A.
Sorry guys, it does not look good for the future of Exedra.
At this very moment there is an auction going on. All the kitchen utensils and glassware. If you guys want glasses with their logo on it, you had better hurry.
You might have trouble finding the place, because it is so fucking smoggy, you will have a hard seeing it from across 9 de Julio.
I bet they do not have smog alerts.
I thought I was in L. A.Looks like a job for ace investigative reporter Aqualung. Wherefore art thou Aqualung?
Wherefore art thou Aqualung?"... Sitting on a park bench, watching little girls with bad intent..."
I'll have to see what my informers have to say!;)
Sorry guys, it does not look good for the future of Exedra.
At this very moment there is an auction going on. All the kitchen utensils and glassware. If you guys want glasses with their logo on it, you had better hurry.
You might have trouble finding the place, because it is so fucking smoggy, you will have a hard time seeing it from across 9 de Julio.
I bet they do not have smog alerts in be. A.
I thought I was in L. A.If someone paid $1,300,000 for Exedra, it make no sense that it not re-open. http://www.criticadigital.com/impresa/index.php?secc=nota&nid=1450 It's also possible this article is false?
If someone did pay 1.3M for it, then maybe the name is changing. Maybe a Court order the sale, to pay off x employees. But it should open at some point if someone paid so much for it.
What I was told by Michel who is working out of Iberia now, that all the x employees have settled, except for one, who wants more money, and it will go to trial. She told me this about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Also said the new owner was going to control, which girls work there and which can not. She did not explain how she knew all this. She said the old man who died, used to control which girls worked there before he died.
Jaimito Cartero
04-17-08, 03:38
Maybe they'll be changing the name, or such of Exedra. I know that they kept troublemaker chicas out, I never heard of any chica getting booted for no reason. I think the new scheme, as it's been detailed, is vastly different. Basically like Cafe Orleans, where they chicas pay to be allowed a table (or a certain amount of consumption)
I have no interest in an Orleans style place, as you get a more rushed service, and you end up paying substantially more that if you deal with a chica that doesn't have the high overhead.
TejanoLibre
04-17-08, 17:55
I can tell you that $1500.00 dollars a month for a fucking waiter is way out of line boys! Not even in the USA is that possible.
The Mafia (read restaurant worker's union) tells me what to pay the waiters and dishwashers, etc, etc.
The pay scale is set according to the level of the resto-bar.
1 star.
2 star.
3star.
4 star. (actually they are called ¨tenedor ¨ or forks?)
Tablecloths on the tables being the highest level or even serving Lomo I believe.
Anyway, the highest paid waiters are paid about 1500 - 1800 pesos with a large part of their pay going to retirement, pensions, medical care, etc.
Nobody makes 4500 pesos a month as a waiter on salary alone!
600 to 800 for a waiter or kitchen hand is normal. A chef or parrillero will be the highest paid mf! (always pesos on this boy's blogs!)
The Mafia even tells me what they can and cannot do as part of their job!
Dishwashers cannot clean floors and windows or bathrooms, etc. The MFs!
Just lost my first lawsuit. More to follow I'm sure! The MFs!
X shall return. But no one knows what it will be. Least of all a fat, pale, overfucked and overpriced street *****!
Cheers,
TL.
P. S - Missed the damn auction but I was going to buy all of the items that had X's logos on them. Damn it.
Makes me wonder why a bar would sell all of the resto-bar equipment. Many things were basic kitchen utensils and ovens, stoves, fridges, etc. MAKES NO SENSE if they are going to re-open as a food and or drink establishment. Only a totally custom kitchen but even then?
Selling ALL the old crap at big E only reinforces the speculation that a big chain food purveyor will occupy our favorite corner. They never deal in used.
Food prep stuff. (read Feddo / Volga, Mc Fatty d, or Bugger King)
Jackson, start a poll to guess the next operation to fill the Exedra space.
Jackpot
Selling ALL the old crap at big E only reinforces the speculation that a big chain food purveyor will occupy our favorite corner. They never deal in used.
Food prep stuff. (read Feddo / Volga, Mc Fatty d, or Bugger King)
Jackson, start a poll to guess the next operation to fill the Exedra space.
JackpotThe owners of Rond Point plus some other bars and coffee shops.
Selling ALL the old crap at big E only reinforces the speculation that a big chain food purveyor will occupy our favorite corner. They never deal in used.
Food prep stuff. (read Feddo / Volga, Mc Fatty d, or Bugger King)
Jackson, start a poll to guess the next operation to fill the Exedra space.
JackpotThe article says the new owner is Rafael Pereira Aragón, who owns Rond Point, Las Violetas and el Café de los Angelitos.
No one knows his plans for the place. I think he will keep the girls, since it brings more buiness. But no one knows, except Michel :). Just kidding TejanoLibre.
It's in spanish.
http://www.criticadigital.com/impresa/index.php?secc=nota&nid=1450
Tessan - This article has already been translated here by Rocking Bob:
http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2011&page=3&pp=15
According to my informers;)
The idea is another Rond Point style coffee shop aimed more at the Argentine business man, the local Jet Set and high class tourists than at the mongering crowd. This does not necessarily exclude girls but it will set a standard for the quality of the girls. Models and so on!
This means the upping of everything from cutlery to tables and chairs. This is why they have auctioned off all the old stuff.
Someone who has spent 1.3 million on a bar isn't going to worry about spending another hundred grand or two!
We'll see how much of this is true
According to my informers;)
The idea is another Rond Point style coffee shop aimed more at the Argentine business man, the local Jet Set and high class tourists than at the mongering crowd. This does not necessarily exclude girls but it will set a standard for the quality of the girls. Models and so on!
This means the upping of everything from cutlery to tables and chairs. This is why they have auctioned off all the old stuff.
Someone who has spent 1.3 million on a bar isn't going to worry about spending another hundred grand or two!
We'll see how much of this is trueToo bad. It looks like Exedra in name, and otherwise, is history. Thanks Aqualung for a little clearer picture on this hazy day.:)
I was at Iberia and saw the waiter Caesar, from Exedra. He was drunk, and the manager of Iberia was kicking him out.
I ask him what going on with Exedra, he did not know, then I ask him if they gave him a big payout when they closed Exedra. He said he got nothing. He was drunk, so it hard to know, but he said nothing. He worked at Exedra a long time.
WorldTravel69
09-03-08, 16:48
Here are a few photos, lest we forget.
Thank You WT69
What beautful memories we all have of Excedra it almost make's me cry.
Exon
Gato Hunter
09-03-08, 16:54
I walked by there a few weeks back. They had the door facing Cordoba propped open. I looked in and the place was fully gutted. It looked like they took a jackhammer to the walls and the posts.
More than likely it was just one guy with a hammer beating on it for a month.
Spassmusssein
09-03-08, 19:21
Will rent out the place.
Maybe a bank or something else, getting ROI.
Sold for 3,400 square meters at 30usd / each.
Let us be lucky to have "Exedra" in our memories and fuck the idiot (son of the owner) who sold our "oasis de alegria".
TejanoLibre
10-17-08, 20:01
The latest that I have is that they are set to re-open on Dec. 5th. 2008.
It is gutted at this moment and your probably correct in assuming that one guy with a hammer did it all!
3rd. World Wrecking Crew!
They had been unable to locate the main gas line until recently. Buried somewhere in the basement and maybe made of something that is not metalic so metal detectors could not locate it. ()
That's what I heard from the shoe-shine guy.
The chicas that I talked to yesterday told me that they are planning to return but for now they remain standing by my closed and dusty front door!
There is a new, super hot, young street walker that hangs near X from about 6 p on.
5'7, dark hair, tan, very sexy Paraguayan type!
Too nice for the street boys!
See Ya,
TL
The latest that I have is that they are set to re-open on Dec. 5th. 2008.
It is gutted at this moment and your probably correct in assuming that one guy with a hammer did it all!
3rd. World Wrecking Crew!
They had been unable to locate the main gas line until recently. Buried somewhere in the basement and maybe made of something that is not metalic so metal detectors could not locate it. (
That's what I heard from the shoe-shine guy.
The chicas that I talked to yesterday told me that they are planning to return but for now they remain standing by my closed and dusty front door!
There is a new, super hot, young street walker that hangs near X from about 6 p on.
5'7, dark hair, tan, very sexy Paraguayan type!
Too nice for the street boys!
See Ya,
TLVery good news if its true.
Exon
Need to contact a Polish blonde, Monica, who park herself most afternoons at the cafe, always sitting along. She was very nice to me from the get go and I saw her 3 times in 3 trips. The last session, she just about attack me. My contact # was lost together with a Spanish dictionary in Chile, I believe.
WorldTravel69
04-10-09, 13:10
Here are a few shots of what it looks like now.
Need to contact a Polish blonde, Monica, who park herself most afternoons at the cafe, always sitting along. She was very nice to me from the get go and I saw her 3 times in 3 trips. The last session, she just about attack me. My contact # was lost together with a Spanish dictionary in Chile, I believe.Reminds me, what's the difference between a Polish chick and a bowling ball? You can only get three fingers inside a bowling ball.
TejanoLibre
06-19-09, 19:29
So is this reopened?I heard today that by the end of the year it will re-open.
I did notice that the entire fascade of the old Excedra has been removed and that the new face matches the entire building's architectural style.
More than likely at the city's request.
TL.
P. S - A LOT more likely that X will re-open than Lálliance! Damn it!
Does anyone have the latest 411 on what's going on at the Exedra site?
I'm planning a trip in October and it would be nice to have a local gathering place to meet up with like minded mongers plus the local talent to choose from. Ah the good old days.
Closet Boy
01-31-10, 01:55
I last visited the place in 2004/2005? And found the place to be without much space. Hopefully, when remodeling is completed, there will be more room.
Flexible Horn
01-31-10, 19:55
Does anyone have the latest 411 on what's going on at the Exedra site?
I'm planning a trip in October and it would be nice to have a local gathering place to meet up with like minded mongers plus the local talent to choose from. Ah the good old days.An Argentinean I have known for 6 years informs me that Exedra will be re opening as a Pharmacity Pharmacy, some time this year.
An Argentinean I have known for 6 years informs me that Exedra will be re opening as a Pharmacity Pharmacy, some time this year.Exedra used to be a place where you could get a cure for what ails you. I guess there will be "cures" again, but not the type we were all hoping for.
Thoroughly disgusting news.
An Argentinean I have known for 6 years informs me that Exedra will be re opening as a Pharmacity Pharmacy, some time this year.
If Pereira Rafael Aragon, owner of Rond Point, Violets and the Café de los Angelitos, paid $1,300,000 US dollars for Exedra, and is a restaurant/club owner, it would be strange to open a Pharmacity Pharmacy.
Maybe the government is screwing him, and not letting him open up. This is strange news if it's true.
http://www.criticadigital.com/impresa/index.php?secc=nota&nid=1450
If Pereira Rafael Aragon, owner of Rond Point, Violets and the Café de los Angelitos, paid $1,300,000 US dollars for Exedra, and is a restaurant / club owner, it would be strange to open a Pharmacity Pharmacy.
Maybe the government is screwing him, and not letting him open up. This is strange news if it's true.
http://www.criticadigital.com/impresa/index.php?secc=nota&nid=1450I have a good friend that's the "God Father" of the "Greek Mafia" is Buenos Aries, its big one with over 400,000 Greeks in Argentina.
He told me that Cafe Excedra was bought by Argentine "Narco" money. That they don't give a shit about the place and their only purpose was to laundar drug money into hard assets.
Everything thats transpired since it was sold leads me to believe what my friend told me is true. Why would any for real business man take a profitable business and shut it down for two years with no income?
Exon
P.S. http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.criticadigital.com%2Fimpresa%2Findex.php%3Fsecc%3Dnota%26nid%3D1450&sl=es&tl=en
P. S. http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.criticadigital.com%2Fimpresa%2Findex.php%3Fsecc%3Dnota%26nid%3D1450&sl=es&tl=enBeware Google translator!
I almost laughed when first I read the English wording of the following quote, followed up by reading it in Spanish.:
"It's a letdown for us," complained Vanina, a prostitute who worked 35 years "for years" in the bar."
"Es un bajón para nosotras", se quejó Vanina, una prostituta de 35 ańos que trabajó "durante ańos" en el bar.
The first, the translation, says she worked as a prostitute for 35 years at Exedra. That would make her a bit old, and a worn out rag to boot. I immediately thought of the droopy-eyed elder lady with blond hair, kind of mousy looking, big butt / thighs. Crooked teeth and tried to sit and have a conversation. Assuming she was 18 when she started, she would be about 53. Seemed like the right age.
The second, the original Spanish, means that she was 35 years old and had worked "for years" (I. E. An indeterminate number) at Exedra. I then thought of a younger milfish woman, blonde, not a bad rack and body, but a little thick maybe. Not terribly pretty but not bad. I don't know anything of her services, but a completely different image appeared of possible chicas who could be Vannina from Exedra that I could remember, right or wrong.
The translation idiomically (is that a word? It should be, though never voiced out loud I think, only written) would be closer to:
"It's a huge downer for us," complained Vannina, a thirty-five year old prostitute who worked "for years" in the bar."
TejanoLibre
02-02-10, 19:33
An Argentinean I have known for 6 years informs me that Exedra will be re opening as a Pharmacity Pharmacy, some time this year.There has been a lot of construction activity going on lately at the place.
Looks like guys hanging false ceilings and a / c ducts, sheetrock, etc.
Anyway, I walked in there and they have moved the bathrooms to the basement and they have built a smoking area so I have to believe that it will NOT be a pharmacy.
It does not make any sense but these guys down here RARELY make business sense!
There is a huge Pharmacy chain accross the street on Lima and Cordoba so stranger things have happened.
Again, the shoe-shine guy tells me that it will open in March.
TL.
P. S - The place is taking longer to re-open than Lálliance!
Does anybody knows if the new Excedra is already opened?
Is now a drugstore?
I miss this place so much!
WorldTravel69
04-14-10, 15:41
I was told maybe in May.
That would be a Miracle.
I have not seen anybody working in or around the place.
I miss it too.
Does anybody knows if the new Excedra is already opened?
Is now a drugstore?
I miss this place so much!
Gato Hunter
04-15-10, 00:35
Jackson,
Can we run a betting pool on when something will open here?
I'm going to bet 100$ on the under that nothing opens in that spot in 2010.
Passed by Exedra today. There were workers laying down new tiles on the sidewalk, on a Sunday no less. Part of barricade surrounding the store was opened and probably more workers were working inside. Re-doing the sidewalk might mean they are planning to have some outdoor facility like tables in the past, who konws.
Passed by Exedra today. There were workers laying down new tiles on the sidewalk, on a Sunday no less. Part of barricade surrounding the store was opened and probably more workers were working inside. Re-doing the sidewalk might mean they are planning to have some outdoor facility like tables in the past, who konws.Finally! Some movement in a positive direction. How long has it been? Nearly 2 1/2 years?
Gato Hunter
07-06-10, 00:44
Jackson,
Can we run a betting pool on when something will open here?
I'm going to bet 100$ on the under that nothing opens in that spot in 2010.I am still going with this.
I was by there yesterday and a crew of about 8 men were working.
From what I saw, there's just a week or so of work left to do.
Hopefully soon and with Chica's?
Exon
Passed by there again after dinner on Sunday night, all the workers had called it quit for the day. Half the barricade has come down, the whole side along Carlos Pellegrini. One window was not covered. I noticed the whole inside is still completely gutted out without any fixture what so ever. So still can't what it will be when and if it reopens. May be Exon noticed more inside when he passed by there on Monday.
What I saw was the interstructure was about done.
Nothing left but fixtures and cosmetic stuff.
Exon
Passed by there again after dinner on Sunday night, all the workers had called it quit for the day. Half the barricade has come down, the whole side along Carlos Pellegrini. One window was not covered. I noticed the whole inside is still completely gutted out without any fixture what so ever. So still can't what it will be when and if it reopens. May be Exon noticed more inside when he passed by there on Monday.That's what I saw this afternoon. They've definitely been working but the inside is a long way from being finished. But, overall really good news. They have done more the past week than they have in a year.
But if they build it, will the chicas come? And be allowed to come?
WorldTravel69
07-17-10, 20:47
I am still dreaming that it will look like this again.
Dogg,
If They Built It, They Will Come, "we hope?"
Exon
TejanoLibre
07-22-10, 00:34
I am still dreaming that it will look like this again.Smelled fresh paint through the doors last night!
Ceiling sheet rocked and ready to drop lights and paint!
Sidewalk is brand new and almost nice!
A shitload of huge windows all around the place 1
I heard it will open in August!
I also heard from a very reliable person that they will NOT have Chicas!
WTF!
TL.
What's up WT?
Coming back to BA in December, any word on Cafe Excedra and if it has the chicas like before?
If not, Cafe Orleans is my old stand by unless I get some other advice, Thanks!
I had lunch with Gysell yesterday, she informed me, Unfortunately, that Cafe Excedra will be a Starbuck's coffee shop with No Chica's when it reopen's. The Golden era of Mongering in Buenos Aires is over.. The MotherFuckers.
Exon
I had lunch with Gysell yesterday, she informed me, Unfortunately, that Cafe Excedra will be a Starbuck's coffee shop with No Chica's when it reopen's. The Golden era of Mongering in Buenos Aires is over. The MotherFuckers.
ExonSo we lose Exedra to a yankee import, stuffed with local yup types, with overpriced shitty coffee. Sign of the times.
Jaimito Cartero
09-29-10, 08:14
You'd think after so many years, some people would learn this. Guess not.
It seems a waste to turn it into a Starbucks. Especially after the length of time it was closed, and all the remodeling. I still think we could turn it into a Puta Starbucks, though. If it's open 24 hours, put the word out that you'll buy them a free drink and give them 30 pesos each for showing up, and we'd have wall-to-wall putas there.
Wild Walleye
09-29-10, 10:39
You'd think after so many years, some people would learn this. Guess not.
It seems a waste to turn it into a Starbucks. Especially after the length of time it was closed, and all the remodeling. I still think we could turn it into a Puta Starbucks, though. If it's open 24 hours, put the word out that you'll buy them a free drink and give them 30 pesos each for showing up, and we'd have wall-to-wall putas there. That regardless of who is selling the coffee, unless they institute a table charge, there will be desserts available from independent, third party vendors.
Cordoba Dan
09-29-10, 14:38
That regardless of who is selling the coffee, unless they institute a table charge, there will be desserts available from independent, third party vendors.How could it not continue to be a bit like its past? The location and size of this place makes for an ideal Starbucks puteria. (unless management actively discourages this and that should not be an easy task) The chain has a good bit of appeal to Argies as demonstrated by the one on Callao near Viamonte. The business model in the US seems to be catering to the self employed independent contractor. Just leave out the lap top and smart phone and which profession will flock to this place more in pursuit of locals and tourists in microcentro? My problem with Exedra was that I never went late and rarely saw a chica worth chatting up. Switching to Starbucks may provide an image shift that many more chicas may find appealing.
Wild Walleye
09-29-10, 14:44
From the early days ('91) when you had to mail order it. I also like some of the sweets that they sell. But I would really, really like Starbucks if you could grab a cup of coffee and a 'tart' to go.
Rockin Bob
09-29-10, 15:12
Hey, I like Starbucks coffee! I have a bag of Guatemala Antigua in the fridge.
That said, it's hard to believe that the corporate overseers are going to allow Starbucks to become a chica place. It's just not in the corporate image.
But hey, the way things are going soon we'll have McHookers. There'll be a new meaning for Happy Meal.
I can see it now, bunch of hung over, hard core mongers mingling with the preppies sipping their mochas: turds in a punch bowl. World has changed too much for this old fart.
Wild Walleye
09-29-10, 16:54
Hey, I like Starbucks coffee! I have a bag of Guatemala Antigua in the fridge.
That said, it's hard to believe that the corporate overseers are going to allow Starbucks to become a chica place. It's just not in the corporate image.
But hey, the way things are going soon we'll have McHookers. There'll be a new meaning for Happy Meal. Hay der guy, would you like a McPussy with your order?
If you didn't want to spring for the more expensive complete meal, you could get a Happy Ending Meal (burger, fries, drink and a manual release)
TejanoLibre
09-29-10, 18:00
I had lunch with Gysell yesterday, she informed me, Unfortunately, that Cafe Excedra will be a Starbuck's coffee shop with No Chica's when it reopen's. The Golden era of Mongering in Buenos Aires is over. The MotherFuckers.
ExonThere is one on Florida and Cordoba and it's always packed.
Starbuck's is planning to open like 500 stores in Argentina!
I hope the rumor is not true.
I will poke around in there in a few minutes.
They did bring in a couple of new pieces of resto equipment.
The locals are going to get tired of 20 peso coffees real fast!
What they should do is open up a FUDDRUCKER'S!
Fuck Starbuck's!
TL
Wild Walleye
09-29-10, 18:48
What they should do is open up a FUDDRUCKER'S!
An Empenada Bell resto
TejanoLibre
04-02-11, 20:54
That regardless of who is selling the coffee, unless they institute a table charge, there will be desserts available from independent, third party vendors.The Latest News :
Recently 2 or 3 very nice logos were added to the building.
An E and an X combined.
Also the windows are covered with the Bricco logo.
A local coffee shop chain.
Try this :
http://www.guiaoleo.com.ar/restaurantes/Bricco-1400
Maybe a resto also.
Same old boring bullshit menus no doubt!
Let me guess :
Fucking empanadas.
Fucking pizzas.
Fucking pasta.
Fucking milanesas.
ZERO TASTE or SPICE!
Bring on the Chicas!
That is what I will do!
Hell, let us be the ones to Stock The Pond!
They will have to kick us out!
I can bring 15 at least!
YES!
TL
After TL gets done with revising the menu, be sure to look up his girls under "carnes" and "postres".
Here's some pictures of the new place and logo:
WorldTravel69
05-09-11, 15:16
I hope.
I can hardly wait.
The question will be Chicas or No Chicas.
The place is likely to be without chicas.
As far as I see from outside the buliding, there has been little development over the last 12 months.
(I see the cafe every day from my office which is on the opposite side of 9 de Julio.)
But I didn't notice the new EXEDRA sign until I saw the pic in WorldTraveler69's post.
Anyway, as said, we probably won't be able to find chicas here like people used to in the old days.
Perhaps TL knows better about what the place is going to look like when it re-opens.
Joe.
I hope.
I can hardly wait.
The question will be Chicas or No Chicas.
I hope.
I can hardly wait.
The question will be Chicas or No Chicas. Whoa. Bricco is channeling Exedra with that groovy sign over the front door. A surprise that.
I would almost think WT69 has finagled some trucho photo to fuck with our broken hearts.
TejanoLibre
05-09-11, 19:22
Whoa. Bricco is channeling Exedra with that groovy sign over the front door. A surprise that.
I would almost think WT69 has finagled some trucho photo to fuck with our broken hearts. From a marketing standpoint it just would'nt make sense to throw away 40 years of good will and a well deserved reputation.
Hence the name or homage to the Great X!
A reputation is as hard to unspread as butter.
As I can attest to that!
TL
I hope.
I can hardly wait.
The question will be Chicas or No Chicas. At the end of the day I think they will end up having chicas even if they don't allow them at first. Too much tradition is behind the name exedra to forget it and leave it behind.
I miss it too but Orleans sucks except for an occasional coffee.
Gato Hunter
06-20-11, 22:43
Jackson,
Can we run a betting pool on when something will open here?
I'm going to bet 100$ on the under that nothing opens in that spot in 2010.
I am still going with this.This is from last year, Jackson excuse me for not knowing the new quoting formatting but I think I won this pool.
Can you foward the funds to the lechuga funds for me.
Any new speculation when the 'new' Cafe Exedra or a coffee shop will open.
Any new speculation when the 'new' Cafe Exedra or a coffee shop will open.There is close to nothing going on as far as renovation inside the place. The whole thing remains a mystery.
Not such a mystery. My nanny was a little miffed that yall ignored my question about currency one night while holding court in the corner. I simply can't control someone whose taken care of me for 60 years. I'm just glad yall still got your scalps. (smile)."we are all just seeds in gods hands". Love and best regards all. Phu bai
A reliable source (or as reliable as one can expect here) tells me it will reopen on or about September 20th as a coffee shop with no other activities.
MrHelmetHead
12-19-11, 21:05
Still not open as of mid Dec 2011.
TejanoLibre
12-28-11, 16:23
Still not open as of mid Dec 2011.I was able to gain access to the interior of The Grand X today around noon and I spoke to the man that was working in there.
They plan to open by the end of March.
He did not know anything about Chicas.
He did think that if you build it they will come!
It will have the same name and has nothing to do with Bricco's.
Place looks very nice, pleasing colors.
Tuck and roll sofa looks cheap and out of place with the modern, booth style semi-sofas.
Oh well, I am an interior designer!
The X emblem which is VERY nice is cock-eyed on the bar!
That's a capital sin man!
Like a crooked Mona Lisa!
The place looks like it's ready to go now.
Also, Lälliance, my old place will re-open in April!
AS a FUCKING SUBWAY!
My rent was $3, 200. 00.
His rent is $14, 000. 00!
He has to redo EVERYTHING and pay for the franchise, etc.
Shit product in my opinion because it's just bread and 1 thin piece of ham and cheese!
I need a ¨Jewish Deli ¨Dagwood!
A fucking 2 pound pastrami on rye with melting cheese!
He will probably close at night and on sat. And sun. !
20 lunches a month to cover his nut!
Can he do it?
TL
WorldTravel69
12-29-11, 04:03
Someone bring him Pastrami Sandwich.
I was able to gain access to the interior of The Grand X today around noon and I spoke to the man that was working in there.
They plan to open by the end of March.
He did not know anything about Chicas.
He did think that if you build it they will come!
It will have the same name and has nothing to do with Bricco's.
Place looks very nice, pleasing colors.
Tuck and roll sofa looks cheap and out of place with the modern, booth style semi-sofas.
Oh well, I am an interior designer!
The X emblem which is VERY nice is cock-eyed on the bar!
That's a capital sin man!
Like a crooked Mona Lisa!
The place looks like it's ready to go now.
Also, Lälliance, my old place will re-open in April!
AS a FUCKING SUBWAY!
My rent was $3, 200. 00.
His rent is $14, 000. 00!
He has to redo EVERYTHING and pay for the franchise, etc.
Some please bring Tijuana a Pastrami Sandwich. Freeze Warpped.
You can also bring a Crab from S. F or the USA.
Product in my opinion because it's just bread and 1 thin piece of ham and cheese!
I need a ¨Jewish Deli ¨Dagwood!
A fucking 2 pound pastrami on rye with melting cheese!
He will probably close at night and on sat. And sun. !
20 lunches a month to cover his nut!
Can he do it?
TL
I just happened to walk by here today and it looks like they are ready to open any day. It looks like it is almost finished, just doing some painting and cleaning. Maye they will be open in March as others have posted!
The paper is off the windows. Looks ready to open but needs tables, chairs, etc.
Should open on or before July 2014!
LukeSkywalker
09-24-12, 13:38
I did not follow this thread.
It has been a few years, but Why was Exedra shut down?
TejanoLibre
09-24-12, 14:22
I did not follow this thread.
It has been a few years, but Why was Exedra shut down?X was never shut down, it was sold by the owner's son when the owner died.
A steal at 1. 3 million u$d.
Partial list of problems :
A long legal hassle to pay-off the exemployees, some that had worked there for 30 plus years.
Each waiter was entitled to 150k plus as severance .
Moving the bathrooms from ground level to the basement, adding central air, unable to find the main gas line underground, contractor unable to pay the workers so they squatted on site for at least 1.5 years !
The new owners have very deep pockets so they were never in a huge rush to reopen.
Permits and lack of permits!
It appears to be ready, has new furniture still under plastic wrapping.
They created a smoking area where the bathrooms were but then the law changed so they had to tear it out.
The word on the street is that they will not allow Chicas to hang-out there when it reopens.
So why bother going?
If you build it they will come.
TL
I walked into Exedra today and talked with a guy working there. He says it will be open within a month. There's still work to be done but all the furniture is in there.
This is likely to be very anticlimactic. I doubt any gatos will be welcome. I don't know if there will be any outside seating.
TejanoLibre
10-05-12, 00:55
I walked into Exedra today and talked with a guy working there. He says it will be open within a month. There's still work to be done but all the furniture is in there.
This is likely to be very anticlimactic. I doubt any gatos will be welcome. I don't know if there will be any outside seating.It would NOT make any sense to not have outside seating.
It would be stupid, they have the permit available.
Huge, extra wide sidewalk and a corner location. Most famous corner in Buenos Aires for 40 years.
There will be tables and chairs but maybe no Chicas which means no customers after 10pm.
TL
It would NOT make any sense to not have outside seating.
It would be stupid, they have the permit available.
Huge, extra wide sidewalk and a corner location. Most famous corner in Buenos Aires for 40 years.
There will be tables and chairs but maybe no Chicas which means no customers after 10pm.
TLI agree, it makes no sense for them not to have outdoor seating. But when did "sense" ever get in the way. Also, that outdoor space is no longer covered as it was back in the day. Still, outdoor seating would be great in the warm months. I agree, my favorite corner, but I don't know if it would still be my favorite corner without the chica factor. Vamos a ver.
Peered in today. No change, other than a box for a 55'' Samsung TV. Another promising sign, one would think.
TejanoLibre
11-02-12, 05:26
Peered in today. No change, other than a box for a 55'' Samsung TV. Another promising sign, one would think.I went by there today and the windows are uncovered, it is fully furnished with plastic covered furinture, set in place. It's ready to go any day now! Finally!
Just left Iberia because it was the best choice to drink a bottle of wine at 4am.
X is about to reopen!
TL
Silver Star
11-03-12, 23:34
I went by there today and the windows are uncovered, it is fully furnished with plastic covered furinture, set in place. It's ready to go any day now! Finally!
Just left Iberia because it was the best choice to drink a bottle of wine at 4am.
X is about to reopen!
TLHeard the target opening date is the 28th of Nov.
Fred
Arrived today and cruised by the old haunt.
Shazam, its ready to open. To prolong the.
"soft opening" is downright stupid.
Lets give the Argies a boost and urge them on.
Soon folks, SOON.
Jackpot
SimpleWrangler
11-06-12, 04:51
adding central air, unable to find the main gas line underground,
TLHumans or monkeys?
Damn! If November 28th ends up being the opening date, I will miss it. I would have loved to see it up and running already during my visit next week.
Arrived today and cruised by the old haunt.
Shazam, its ready to open. To prolong the.
"soft opening" is downright stupid.
Lets give the Argies a boost and urge them on.
Soon folks, SOON.
Jackpot
Hello, Guys,
Does any of you know off some girls in Bariloche?
Appreciate.
Thanks.
Check out this website:
www.vossosrepelotudo.com
SnakeOilSales
11-09-12, 06:18
Hello, Guys,
Does any of you know off some girls in Bariloche?
Appreciate.
Thanks.Hi Kurty-
Can you please do everyone on the board a favor and please stick a metal fork into a 220v electrical outlet?
Thanks,
SOS
Hi Kurty-
Can you please do everyone on the board a favor and please stick a metal fork into a 220v electrical outlet?
Thanks,
SOSEl Jeffe. Please deal with this clown once and for all. It's getting really old. Toymann.
Ps. Where is your ap house reservation banner. Thinking of a January quickie trip. Thanks. Toymann
EXEDRA If November 28th ends up being the opening date.
I ask chicas, I hope they come back.
WorldTravel69
01-06-13, 14:13
For those who do not know how to find it.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=217722955438416883460.0004d2a0e98da4dc1e7fd
Now that it has reopened, a few more photos of the inside would be nice. Also, a few taken from La Mad.
Any Chicas Yet?
Thanks
For those who do not know how to find it.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=217722955438416883460.0004d2a0e98da4dc1e7fd
Now that it has reopened, a few more photos of the inside would be nice. Also, a few taken from La Mad.
Any Chicas Yet?
ThanksWent by last night at midnight. Where is everyone? Very few people. Is everyone on vacation?
Was there this evening. I saw two known faces sitting discretely outside. Another two I didn't know nor was I interested in knowing (3s or 4s at the best) jumped out of a cab and asked something to one of the known girls. I couldn't hear what they were talking about but the two carried on to the other bar a few doors down Carlos Pellegrini from Exedra. (the one that used to be a monger's trap). They were in there for about ten minutes and then walked off to the corner of Paraguay. The cab driver patiently waiting with the engine running.
Exedra now is more of a restaurant than a bar with all the tables laid with cutlery. I check the menus and the prices seemed quite reasonable. (Both food and beverage).
The food seemed tempting but I was expected elsewhere for dinner so I didn't try anything. They have draft Quilmes at 28 pesos a pint or 17 pesos half a pint and it was very good. (I stopped drinking bottled Quilmes years ago)
They accept credit cards.
Daddy Rulz
01-14-13, 00:48
Sunday 11:47 five hookers. 2 maduras. 1 ugly Dominican. 2 cute youngins.
Does anyone know if Exedra now have Wifi?
Daddy Rulz
01-14-13, 15:29
Does anyone know if Exedra now have Wifi?Yes they do, not fast, not slow.
Punter 127
01-14-13, 18:24
Exedra needs Punter123
He was the life and soul of Exedra. And a 'chica magnet'. He loved to TLN at Exedra, nightly!I don't know about that 123 guy but I liked the place. But then I like most places that have lots Chicas. LOL
TejanoLibre
01-16-13, 21:39
I will be at X this evening at 11pm to meet a few of the Boys if anybody else wants to show up the more the merrier.
If you don't know me I will be wearing Khaki walking shorts and I have a Buzz cut. Just trying to see if any girls have started to roost there yet.
After that we are probably going to go to Hook and Catto's in search of new "Meat!"
Fresh Meat! Out with the old and in with the new! I'm still going to recommend Augustina (5ft. 9in. , white, Argie dancer) from Hook and Rocio (5ft. 9in. , white, Northern Argie) from Catto's if you really want to go to the clubs. All previous recommendations still apply.
Thanks,
TL
TejanoLibre
01-17-13, 21:26
There are some Chicas at Excedra at night, last night there were maybe 5 but all of them were well over 45. The waiter said that they will be allowed but maybe a bit lower keyed this time. The 4 or 5 girls last night were working the tables going from client to client and then back to their headquarters or base station table. HAGS!
Still, a good sign. Build out of the old place is very nice.
TL
Probably same 4-5 chicas I just saw 15 minutes ago at Exedra. None I would order out.
Had a good experience at privado Tucuman 118 today. Four girls. One was black so I'm not rating her. Not my thing. Other three. Pilar, Carla and Floppy. All 7-8. 5. I chose Floppy a 32yo tall blond. With a B E A utiful face and nice bod. Very sweet. Decent performance. Stayed well after the hora. I will probably go see Pilar next. She was probably in her early 20s. Best looking of the bunch. Carla short buxom and seemed especially ready for action.
$400p / hour but after my 343 Uruguay experience I was willing to pay for upgrade. Apartment is 2B but FYI it is on 4th floor (US standard). Or 3rd floor (Europe). If you are still confused (which I was) take the elevator and press 2.
Ciao
Daddy Rulz
03-09-13, 20:05
So I've been having a coffee here from time to time and things are picking up. I'm noticing the same kind of spread as before, some young hotties, too old washed out hags.
I propose reconvening the meetings of SAMA (South American Mongers Alliance) there on Tuesdays around 2200. Topics of conversation will be pussy, putas, sports, (both football and futbal) more pussy, food but no politics. I've talked to a few of the mozos and they will spray down any douchebag that insists on ruining a nice evenings convo with the never ending red / blue drivel.
No need to PM me, just come the fuck over. The more money that's sitting at the tables, the more chicas there will be.
A2.
TejanoLibre
03-09-13, 23:54
So I've been having a coffee here from time to time and things are picking up. I'm noticing the same kind of spread as before, some young hotties, too old washed out hags.
I propose reconvening the meetings of SAMA (South American Mongers Alliance) there on Tuesdays around 2200. Topics of conversation will be pussy, putas, sports, (both football and futbal) more pussy, food but no politics. I've talked to a few of the mozos and they will spray down any douchebag that insists on ruining a nice evenings convo with the never ending red / blue drivel.
No need to PM me, just come the fuck over. The more money that's sitting at the tables, the more chicas there will be.
A2.100% dude! If we build it they will cum!
You don't have to share my table if you don't want to do so and I'm cool with Agua con Gas and no booze but if we congregate they will fornicate!
No Doubt!
Let's make it happen!
It just beats the shit out of the clubs and we can recruit Dancers too!
TL.
So I've been having a coffee here from time to time and things are picking up. I'm noticing the same kind of spread as before, some young hotties, too old washed out hags.
I propose reconvening the meetings of SAMA (South American Mongers Alliance) there on Tuesdays around 2200. Topics of conversation will be pussy, putas, sports, (both football and futbal) more pussy, food but no politics. I've talked to a few of the mozos and they will spray down any douchebag that insists on ruining a nice evenings convo with the never ending red / blue drivel.
No need to PM me, just come the fuck over. The more money that's sitting at the tables, the more chicas there will be.
A2.Better get three tables, just in case all your friends come. Monger on dudes. Toymann.
Better get three tables, just in case all your friends come. Monger on dudes. Toymann.For now I am still stuck in the US and can only reminisce about Cafe Exedra and Cafe Orleans.
The most memorable girl from Excedra was Sonia, La Portuguesa.
After our first encounter we would meet, go to dinner and then she would spend the night.
She made two of my trips memorable but then I lost track of her, I assume she returned to Portugal.
Don.
Daddy Rulz
03-12-13, 20:52
First meeting tonight at 2130 at Exedra.
Conversation topics include but are not limited to;.
1. Coming up with a better name than SAMA, it kind of sucks.
2. Pussy (of course).
3. No politics as previously mentioned but I suspect there will be plenty of conversation about the Political Thread on this forum and the "bitchslap heard round the world." Don't worry if you don't know what it is, I'll explain.
4. Sports, football and futbal.
5. More pussy.
6. Cars.
7. And yet more pussy.
Ramiro you are welcomed to come brother, I for one support what you're trying to do.
DR.
3. No politics as previously mentioned but I suspect there will be plenty of conversation about the Political Thread on this forum and the "bitchslap heard round the world." Don't worry if you don't know what it is, I'll explain.
DR.Wouldn't want you to make a fool of yourself. Then again, it will probably be just you and Mplexy anyway. LMAO. Again, in the interests of not offending your easily offended sensibilities, have a lovely evening! Thats two posts on a row. Who is obsessed again? LOL. Toymann.
TejanoLibre
03-12-13, 21:03
First meeting tonight at 2130 at Exedra.
Conversation topics include but are not limited to;.
1. Coming up with a better name than SAMA, it kind of sucks.
2. Pussy (of course).
3. No politics as previously mentioned but I suspect there will be plenty of conversation about the Political Thread on this forum and the "bitchslap heard round the world." Don't worry if you don't know what it is, I'll explain.
4. Sports, football and futbal.
5. More pussy.
6. Cars.
7. And yet more pussy.
Ramiro you are welcomed to come brother, I for one support what you're trying to do.
DR.Thank You!
I was there last night for a few minutes and there was an attractive brunette sitting inside and when a car pulled up to the curb she walked out and after a few moments she climbed in the car and the car sped off.
That's a LOT more obvious than it use to be and the waitstaff all aware of everything.
And you are correct, Crewcut is a cool waiter and a good one.
Maybe 9:30 is a bit early?
TL.
Daddy Rulz
03-12-13, 21:07
Toymann
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This message is hidden because Toymann is on your ignore list.
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Remove user from ignore listAfter every post I write. Still stalking I guess.
Ok Jax seriously this is the last one, no more. I promise. No really I do.
DR.
Major Bosco
03-12-13, 22:07
Since I keep an apartment pretty close by, I used to frequent Excedra, if for nothing more than the shock value of a gringo sipping coffee whilst surrounded by professionals. I used to get a kick out of it. And sometimes even a bit more. I was sad when they boarded the place up, so when I got back here this week (after a 3 month hiatus) I was delighted to see it had re-opened.
Well, it certainly is more upscale than before and it has a different feel to it for sure. I sat down outside to sip a coffee and get a lay of the land. No pun intended.
There were a couple of women working. One who caught my eye from a distance but up close was not more than a 7. What surprised me was the number of cars that were pulling up on the street in front of the place and honking their horns so the women would come out and talk to them through their car window. Since I was sitting outside, I had a birds eye view of this. It was like something you see on HBO when they do a documentary like "Hookers on the Point". Women in micro mini skirts leaning into the window of some John's car. Oh well.
A lot of street walkers were hovering around nearby, not actually sitting in Excedra (perhaps to save the cost of a cup of coffee) and trying to work the street as well. It didn't have the same vibe as the old Excedra at all. What's that expression? You can never go home again...
Daddy Rulz
03-13-13, 01:05
Not a rousing success, nor a total waste. One of the guys from the house and I went down at 2130. It was far too early. There were however a few chicas there, so not a total loss.
The cigar guy showed up at 11:00 and after a brief discussion we concluded that future meetings will start at 2300. Cigar guy had already eaten but we had not so we left to grab chow. In the future SAMA meetings will start with an optional dinner downtown followed by coffee (or drinks) at E.
In any event it was a nice evening, cool but not cold, there was an interesting discussion of electronic publishing and how that benefits authors.
DR.
Meet at Exedra after Jackson's dinner party to celebrate the new Pope and his wayward flock.
Popa Francis
03-13-13, 22:13
If so I will be in attendance.
Francis PP
If so I will be in attendance.
Francis PPYes father, TL will be in attendance!
TejanoLibre
03-16-13, 22:21
Yes father, TL will be in attendance!I was not there on Friday night but someone told me he had a blast, 10 chicas and counting around 12 am I think.
Somebody please post.
The more that we frequent the place the chicas will start talking amongst themselves and they will return, although they are 4 years older now.
In time it should be like the good old days due to inflation. What is the going rate at X these days? Anybody know?
TL.
I may have to go there tonight and take one for the team.
I was not there on Friday night but someone told me he had a blast, 10 chicas and counting around 12 am I think.
Somebody please post.
The more that we frequent the place the chicas will start talking amongst themselves and they will return, although they are 4 years older now.
In time it should be like the good old days due to inflation. What is the going rate at X these days? Anybody know?
TL.
I may have to go there tonight and take one for the team.If you were there Friday night I must have assumed it sucked as you didn't report. Times may have changed TL. Clubs are lame and crazy overpriced. Only those with money to burn run that trap line or those that can't work the Internet! Lmao. No question the best game in 2013 is all about the independent Internet chicas. They have the IQ way above the privado chicas. The good ones understand the value of repeat business. I hope that Excedra makes a come back, reports from cafe Orleans have been lame in past years, so nothing has changed there. For those that can run an argentine cell phone, text message in Spanish, and can read the board, killer chicas at the incall price of 4-500 pesos, take out to your place at 5-600 pesos are all over the place. If you combine this with reading the local foro, you are golden. Sadly, this forumn lost its way a few years ago when the anti-price police dudes took over. You know who you are! Such a shame really, years ago this forumn was similar to the local forumn. Price, service, location were nicely reported by most mongers. As has been reported recently, on this foro never post on a killer Chica as the local ex-pats, that should know better, just throw money at them and screw up a good Chica. So much for the local boys having any game.
Hope Excedra makes a comeback, but I somehow doubt it. Four years is a long time. Today the Internet rules. Just a sign of the times. Things change, the winners always learn to adapt. Monger on TL. Toymann.
TejanoLibre
03-16-13, 23:40
If you were there Friday night I must have assumed it sucked as you didn't report. Times may have changed TL. Clubs are lame and crazy overpriced. Only those with money to burn run that trap line or those that can't work the Internet! Lmao. No question the best game in 2013 is all about the independent Internet chicas. They have the IQ way above the privado chicas. The good ones understand the value of repeat business. I hope that Excedra makes a come back, reports from cafe Orleans have been lame in past years, so nothing has changed there. For those that can run an argentine cell phone, text message in Spanish, and can read the board, killer chicas at the incall price of 4-500 pesos, take out to your place at 5-600 pesos are all over the place. If you combine this with reading the local foro, you are golden. Sadly, this forumn lost its way a few years ago when the anti-price police dudes took over. You know who you are! Such a shame really, years ago this forumn was similar to the local forumn. Price, service, location were nicely reported by most mongers. As has been reported recently, on this foro never post on a killer Chica as the local ex-pats, that should know better, just throw money at them and screw up a good Chica. So much for the local boys having any game.
Hope Excedra makes a comeback, but I somehow doubt it. Four years is a long time. Today the Internet rules. Just a sign of the times. Things change, the winners always learn to adapt. Monger on TL. Toymann.I was there Thursday, not Friday; that's why I was wondering how it was on Friday.
And when you look back the majority of the Chicas at X were hags but there was always a super star and the atmosphere was fun, bouncing from table to table and meeting new girls then realizing that there were 10 to 20 women that you had fucked all in the same cafe!
I remember one night in the kitchen of my resto that there were 5 out of the 6 girls in the kitchen that I had been with. 4 workers and one non-pro. It was funny.
The Internet:
I would think that 4 years ago only 10% of those hags knew how to use a computer or had one. I have never used an escort site to meet someone in my life because 99% use photo-shop and I don't want to hurt the girl's feelings and tell her to go away. End up fucking some girl that I normally would not. I'm stupid I guess.
Yes, times change but I wonder what these woman at X are quoting. I bet it starts at 200 DOLLARS if you sound like a Gringo but you should be able to wittle that down to 600 p.
Thanks,
TL.
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If you were there Friday night I must have assumed it sucked as you didn't report. Times may have changed TL. Clubs are lame and crazy overpriced. Only those with money to burn run that trap line or those that can't work the Internet! Lmao. No question the best game in 2013 is all about the independent Internet chicas. They have the IQ way above the privado chicas. The good ones understand the value of repeat business. I hope that Excedra makes a come back, reports from cafe Orleans have been lame in past years, so nothing has changed there. For those that can run an argentine cell phone, text message in Spanish, and can read the board, killer chicas at the incall price of 4-500 pesos, take out to your place at 5-600 pesos are all over the place. If you combine this with reading the local foro, you are golden. Sadly, this forumn lost its way a few years ago when the anti-price police dudes took over. You know who you are! Such a shame really, years ago this forumn was similar to the local forumn. Price, service, location were nicely reported by most mongers. As has been reported recently, on this foro never post on a killer Chica as the local ex-pats, that should know better, just throw money at them and screw up a good Chica. So much for the local boys having any game.
Hope Excedra makes a comeback, but I somehow doubt it. Four years is a long time. Today the Internet rules. Just a sign of the times. Things change, the winners always learn to adapt. Monger on TL. Toymann.
If you take my post, and selectively delete most of it you can come up with....
Originally Posted by Toymann [ViewOriginalPost]
If you were there Friday night I must have sucked you off and screw the local boys.
Monger on TL. Toymann.
What crazy shit is DR up too. I suggest he has some explaining to do! Muy raro Daddy. Toymann
Ps. Your boss may be having a corrective discussion with you shortly.... Lol
Pps. Daddy actually had to add the word "off" to my post. All other words are in there in order in creating his fantasy post. Damn, I really hope this is just a joke!
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The Bullshit Stops Now!
To: Daddy Rulz, Toy Man, and all aliases.
Apparently you are all incapable of getting the message that all the rest of us are tired of watching all of you behave like a bunch of women, so here's my last message to you and your aliases:
I don't know anything about whatever problem you have with each other and I don't care. However...
Effective immediately, you are prohibited from referring to each other in any of your reports.
This means that...
- You may not address each other in any report.
- You may not quote each other in any report.
- You may not mention, either directly or by reference, each other or any activities that any of you may be involved in.
- You may not post your opinions regarding each other or any activities that any of you may be involved in.
- You may not use the "Report this post to a Moderator" function to complaint to me about each other or any activities that any of you may be involved in.
- You may not email to me any complaints you may have about each other or any activities that any of you may be involved in.
Violate this restriction one time, and I'll ban the perpetrator (and all of his aliases) without comment.
Whatever the BS is, it stops now.
Thank You,
A2
Spassmusssein
03-18-13, 00:07
...had a lovely night last Friday and a little private party there, with one of the most loveable girls, that I know since years. And her friends.
WE HAD BIG FUN.
We had good service and reasonable prices.
Funny thing, actually, in X is...nobody knows, how to start it up.
There are boys...
There are girls...
The waiters in general are really treating you with good atention.
There are more girls all arround from Cordoba, Suipacha, Esmeralda...whatever street aside. Waiting that it starts up.
No entrance fee...
No special treatment for. Stars.
I was one of the last clients on Feb-29-2008 and one of the first when the reset.
The Bullshit Stops Now!
To: Daddy Rulz, Toy Man, and all aliases.
Apparently you are all incapable of getting the message that all the rest of us are tired of watching all of you behave like a bunch of women, so here's my last message to you and your aliases:
I don't know anything about whatever problem you have with each other and I don't care. However...
Effective immediately, you are prohibited from referring to each other in any of your reports.
This means that...
- You may not address each other in any report.
- You may not quote each other in any report.
- You may not mention, either directly or by reference, each other or any activities that any of you may be involved in.
- You may not post your opinions regarding each other or any activities that any of you may be involved in.
- You may not use the "Report this post to a Moderator" function to complaint to me about each other or any activities that any of you may be involved in.
- You may not email to me any complaints you may have about each other or any activities that any of you may be involved in.
Violate this restriction one time, and I'll ban the perpetrator (and all of his aliases) without comment.
Whatever the BS is, it stops now.
Thank You,
A2Thanks from all of us for ending the " I the baddest " babel that.
Emanated from otherwise good guys.
Admin 2 pulled the hair from their arses.
Oh yeah, baby.
Jackpot.
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THANKS FROM ALL OF US FOR ENDING THE " I the BADDEST " BABEL THAT.
EMANATED FROM OTHERWISE GOOD GUYS.
ADMIN 2 PULLED THE HAIR FROM THEIR ARSES.
OH YEAH, BABY.
JACKPOT.He's going to pull a hair or two from your ass if you keep posting in all caps! :)
He's going to pull a hair or two from your ass if you keep posting in all caps! :)So sorry.
Jackpot. (please note, all caps not supplied by jackpot )
No entrance fee...
I was one of the last clients on Feb-29-2008 and one of the first when the reset.Check your bill in details, you might find a "service fee" line when you order there at night (which is way less than what the girls are ppaying).
Inquiring minds want to know. There is all sorts of posting, but nothing clear. Should I ask on the argentine forros?
TejanoLibre
05-13-13, 05:20
Inquiring minds want to know. There is all sorts of posting, but nothing clear. Should I ask on the argentine forros?Carmela is the IT girl at Excedra for now, she and Mia2 when I ask her to meet us there.
Everybody is very pleased but they are too shy to post or something.
The rest are nothing special except for Sabrina for a 3-way with Mia2.
TL.
You'd like her too. Mia 2 .
TejanoLibre
05-13-13, 21:35
Carmela is the IT girl at Excedra for now, she and Mia2 when I ask her to meet us there.
Everybody is very pleased but they are too shy to post or something.
The rest are nothing special except for Sabrina for a 3-way with Mia2.
TL.
You'd like her too. Mia 2 .Hey Uncle Bob!
Send me your e-mail so Liz can knock your socks off and you can quit saying that I only have second tier Chicas!
I still say that I prefer a 7 in the bed instead of a 10 but this girl is amazing!
TL.
You better bring some WOOD to the shed if your going to try this one on for size!
To be honest I haven't seen you in person in likely two years. I always liked you and hope you are doing better than the last time we were together. When you were making money, you treated all the boys very well.
Back to the question I posted: are there girls working at cafe ex? I understand that the circus atmosphere is past history. Today, if one if not disturbing the other patrons and uses a little bit a retraint are there working girls at the place that are approachable?
I understand that you can call working girls you know to meet possible clients at cafe ex. So can I.
Member #3320
05-14-13, 00:39
To be honest I haven't seen you in person in likely two years. I always liked you
Who can dislike dear TL.
TejanoLibre
05-14-13, 03:57
To be honest I haven't seen you in person in likely two years. I always liked you and hope you are doing better than the last time we were together. When you were making money, you treated all the boys very well.
Back to the question I posted: are there girls working at cafe ex? I understand that the circus atmosphere is past history. Today, if one if not disturbing the other patrons and uses a little bit a retraint are there working girls at the place that are approachable?
I understand that you can call working girls you know to meet possible clients at cafe ex. So can I.Thanks Bob!
Today makes 6 weeks without a drink! That's coming from someone that for at least the past 2 years drank a FULL liter or more of Whisky per night!
I went to 2 A.A meetings in a row, my ex. Girlfriend came over for the first time since she fell off the balcony a year ago today and the damn liquor store quit selling my favorite booze so it was like someone was telling me something!
Stopped smoking for 40 days too. And it was Easter Sunday. I asked someone or something to show me the way and something happened.
Was it a coincidence that the liquor store quit selling my booze the same day that I decided to quit drinking? How odd!
And I am brought before temptation every fucking night! You know how much It hurts to order an "Agua con Gas" for 300 fucking pesos at Hippo?
I am at the clubs and bars with friends and clients every night and I have to say "Water" please!
3 times in 1 week I said "No Thanks" to FREE Chicas! Fuck! That never would have happened before!
Back to Biz:
X- every girl in there at night is a prostitute and although the quantity has not reached terminal velocity like before the girls are younger and better dressed than before.
The grapevine is working and the girls are definitely returning although it's taking time; some are the same old "sperm banks" but others are brand new in the biz!
Carmela did not even know where the "telos" in the neighborhood are!
I think you boys will like her a lot! She is a tall white girl with a full-on GFE personality.
She is there often and so are Sabrina and Mia2 ! I do use X as a base of operations as it is easy to find and very nicely renovated and the crew there all know exactly who I am and how much biz I bring them or any other place that I hang my hat on.
So yes bob, the girls are there on their own but I am selecting the best ones for my friends!
Thanks and Take Care.
TL.
Damn, I sure hope that the lack of booze will not make me less fun or funny! I like my jokes!
Can someone please comment on the best times for visiting Cafe Exedra.
Thanks.
TejanoLibre
05-16-13, 14:37
Can someone please comment on the best times for visiting Cafe Exedra.
Thanks.
They go fast though!
Mia2 , Sabrina and Carmela with motorcycle!
Are there after 11pm.
Call me and we can meet there!
TL.
They go fast though!
Mia2 , Sabrina and Carmela with motorcycle!
Are there after 11pm.
Call me and we can meet there!
TL.What girls are hanging out there? Saw several nice lookers last week. Busy watching basketball playoffs and didn't get any names. Will be there Tuesday night. Hope the girls are friendlier than the waiters. I thought I was in Paris!
TejanoLibre
06-23-13, 23:06
What girls are hanging out there? Saw several nice lookers last week. Busy watching basketball playoffs and didn't get any names. Will be there Tuesday night.It varies from day to day.
There are some girls that never miss a beat and they are there every day of the week, rain or shine.
The pale, mid 20's bleach blonde with shoulder length hair is there everyday. She told Tequila Tim $200.00 dollars one night. Not a good deal and there is NO Fucking Way that Locals are paying that.
Another very hot girl charges 400 pesos but it won't be any good. I know! She is the most narcissistic woman I have ever met in my life! When she came to my resto she would place the chair in front of the mirror so she could watch herself eat!
So is that the spread?
400 pesos to 200 dollars? Maybe.
Then there is the Dominican Mafia if you like that sort of thing. About 600 p for 2 hours.
The other usual suspects are there as well, horse faced, big assed, old, fat, etc.
There are a few part-time Chicas that are in their early 20's also. Not too bad.
The best looking girl that I have met there so far is Carmela but she is a part-timer.
Your best bet is to call 3 or 4 of the better looking Chicas and ask them if they will be there after 10 pm.
TL.
Tequila Tim
06-24-13, 23:37
[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;434184]It varies from day to day.
There are some girls that never miss a beat and they are there every day of the week, rain or shine.
The pale, mid 20's bleach blonde with shoulder length hair is there everyday. She told Tequila Tim $200.00 dollars one night. Not a good deal and there is NO Fucking Way that Locals are paying that.
I remember that girl. I counteroffered 50 pesos. She was not amused.
Thanks Bob!
Today makes 6 weeks without a drink! That's coming from someone that for at least the past 2 years drank a FULL liter or more of Whisky per night!
I went to 2 A.A meetings in a row, my ex. Girlfriend came over for the first time since she fell off the balcony a year ago today and the damn liquor store quit selling my favorite booze so it was like someone was telling me something!
Stopped smoking for 40 days too. And it was Easter Sunday. I asked someone or something to show me the way and something happened.
Was it a coincidence that the liquor store quit selling my booze the same day that I decided to quit drinking? How odd!
And I am brought before temptation every fucking night! You know how much It hurts to order an "Agua con Gas" for 300 fucking pesos at Hippo?
I am at the clubs and bars with friends and clients every night and I have to say "Water" please!
3 times in 1 week I said "No Thanks" to FREE Chicas! Fuck! That never would have happened before!
Back to Biz:
X- every girl in there at night is a prostitute and although the quantity has not reached terminal velocity like before the girls are younger and better dressed than before.
The grapevine is working and the girls are definitely returning although it's taking time; some are the same old "sperm banks" but others are brand new in the biz!
Carmela did not even know where the "telos" in the neighborhood are!
I think you boys will like her a lot! She is a tall white girl with a full-on GFE personality.
She is there often and so are Sabrina and Mia2 ! I do use X as a base of operations as it is easy to find and very nicely renovated and the crew there all know exactly who I am and how much biz I bring them or any other place that I hang my hat on.
So yes bob, the girls are there on their own but I am selecting the best ones for my friends!
Thanks and Take Care.
TL.
Damn, I sure hope that the lack of booze will not make me less fun or funny! I like my jokes!Hey TL.
Good to hear you've made some changes, hope it works well and continued success.
You probably don't remember me I haven't been down to be. A. Since late 2009. I used to work with MAX at KC.
Remember we talked with some black dude from NY who was looking for someone to get a bunch of stuff through customs flashing a bunch of money?
He seemed to hang out across the street from EXcedra.
Oh well.
I am planning to get back down there probably in the next couple months just for old time sake and a little chica action plus some gambling.
Do they still have the boat casinos open?
TejanoLibre
07-06-13, 06:47
Hey TL.
Good to hear you've made some changes, hope it works well and continued success.
You probably don't remember me I haven't been down to be. A. Since late 2009. I used to work with MAX at KC.
Remember we talked with some black dude from NY who was looking for someone to get a bunch of stuff through customs flashing a bunch of money?
He seemed to hang out across the street from EXcedra.
Oh well.
I am planning to get back down there probably in the next couple months just for old time sake and a little chica action plus some gambling.
Do they still have the boat casinos open?
Hey Man!
It's 2 Buck Chuck! Sounds like the stuff I use to drink!
Thank You for the support!
Yes, the Gangster from New York that said that he had 20 million Euros in Gold and Currency. Interesting story. He hung out at La Mad. Never saw him again.
Was with El Max a while back and we were thinking about you.
The Casinos are still there.
Send me a PM!
TL.
Turned down wine all night at dinner that was included and had 2 waters for about 400 p tonight at Hook and Hippo.
Makes you want to cry!
Was at the Hyatt on Wednesday night at the Cigar Bar and read their Whisky List, very nice selection.
660 pesos for a shot of 25 year old Chivas. That should make most people quit.
I think today makes about 100 days, 10 hours, 55 minutes and 5 seconds but who's counting?
I've been to BA twice but that was in 2007 and 2009. I'll be in BA for one day on business Aug. 12 I'm reading that the scene has changed. I'm assumming 11 pm is still the best time to show up?
TejanoLibre
07-30-13, 23:07
I've been to BA twice but that was in 2007 and 2009. I'll be in BA for one day on business Aug. 12 I'm reading that the scene has changed. I'm assumming 11 pm is still the best time to show up?Blue Monday!
August 12th is a Monday and it falls in the middle of the month so I would NOT count on there being anything very exciting hanging around X at 11 pm. The regulars that never skip a beat should be there but it's better to jack-off usually.
On these types of days or nights with such a small window it's a lot better to make an appointment with a "sure" thing and have them come and visit you at your place.
Have Fun,
TL.
Can anyone tell me if Mia2 , Sabrina and Carmela are still around here.
Thanks.
Daddy Rulz
09-01-13, 03:10
Can anyone tell me if Mia2 , Sabrina and Carmela are still around here.
Thanks.Sabrina is a fixture Mon-Fri, Mia2 less so but my money says Sabrina could call her for you. No idea on pricing.
Thank you for the info.
If anyone has any idea on pricing, that would be great. Thanks.
TejanoLibre
09-01-13, 13:16
Thank you for the info.
If anyone has any idea on pricing, that would be great. Thanks.Sabrina. Maybe 600 to 800 ?
Mia2. 800 plus 50 ? By appointment is more of a Sure Thing for Both.
Mia2. Lovely MILF! GFE!
Sabrina. Like a GND if you were Lucky!
TL.
Call Them!
Carmela ! Ask Tequila Tim Later ! Ultra Hot Latina !
After a lousy experience at Esmeralda 517 privado, I decided to walk by Exedra just to see where it is and what it looked like. It was about 4 pm and 36-year-old Alma, an Italian, was just walking in. I gave her the eye, and she came back out to invite me to have coffee with her. I accepted. We talked for a while (she speaks perfect English), and she told me that she is a working girl. (Big surprise!) I invited her back to my hotel, the Feir's Park on Esmerelda. She accepted (800 pesos for 2 hours), and after we finished our coffee, we walked over there.
The hotel gave us no trouble at all. We walked in the front door and went straight to my room. We then had a very pleasurable and unrushed 2 hours together. She was so good that I tipped her an extra 200 pesos, making it an even thousand. It was the best sex I had on this trip to Buenos Aires. A thousand times better than the lousy 30 minutes I spent at Esmerelda 517, and that cost me 500 pesos!
Anyway, Alma gave me her phone number. I'm leaving tomorrow, but I would definitely call her next time I'm here.
Bruce.
Daddy Rulz
09-02-13, 02:32
We then had a very pleasurable and unrushed 2 hours together. She was so good that I tipped her an extra 200 pesos, making it an even thousand. Very cool that you had a good time considering the experience at the privado. Something to think about; tips to providers just become part of the price next time. I used to do it a lot when I first started but I pretty much never do now. Argies don't, I can promise you that. It's your money brother, I'm not telling you to spend it, but her and everybody she knows at E are going to expect 1000 from you from now on as a basic price.
Just something to think about.
DR
TL,
Thanks for the pricing info..
I wonder if you could provide their contact numbers, I don't have them...
Thanks.
Very cool that you had a good time considering the experience at the privado. Something to think about; tips to providers just become part of the price next time. I used to do it a lot when I first started but I pretty much never do now. Argies don't, I can promise you that. It's your money brother, I'm not telling you to spend it, but her and everybody she knows at E are going to expect 1000 from you from now on as a basic price.
Just something to think about.That's certainly a good point, but I'm leaving tonight and didn't expect to be back on this trip. Next time I'm in BA (maybe a year from now), nobody will remember me at all!
Bruce.
That's certainly a good point, but I'm leaving tonight and didn't expect to be back on this trip. Next time I'm in BA (maybe a year from now), nobody will remember me at all!
Bruce.I promise you Bruce, even if you don't come back for 5 years, the hive-mind will remember you!
It's an unfathomable phenomenon!
That's certainly a good point, but I'm leaving tonight and didn't expect to be back on this trip. Next time I'm in BA (maybe a year from now), nobody will remember me at all!
Bruce.This is where Gringo pricing starts!
TejanoLibre
09-02-13, 17:50
TL,
Thanks for the pricing info..
I wonder if you could provide their contact numbers, I don't have them...
Thanks.Check your PMs.
Thanks,
TL.
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