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Gentlemen:
Many of you have come to realize that chicas live in a parellel universe that in many respects is similar to ours, but differs in several important ways.
In an effort to help my fellow travelers negotiate the perilous waters of the ChicaLand reefs, I have attempted to put to paper some of the basic rules that apply when you make the mystical journey to the land that these girls live in.
Here are five of the most important rules by which you are expected to live:
The Laws of ChicaLand
1) Anything you say, might have said, could possibly have said, or would have said if you thought of it, can and will be used against you in any argument for the rest of your life.
2) Anything any other chica tells her about you is true
3) Anything she says is only true for as long as she wants it to be, after which she may simply deny saying it and it will never have happened.
4) Gifts are not to be confused with the money you owe her for fucking you.
5) Any money she gets in her hands is hers, therefore money she receives for any reason may be used by her for any other reason she deems necessary, in which case you are obligated to give her more money for the original purpose.
There is no such thing as change, repayment, or debt.
More to come.
Anyone who discovers a new law is encouraged to post it here.
Smooth Seas!
David
ChicagoBoy23
04-04-05, 22:50
1. Their mother is always sick and needs medicine.
2. The rent on their apartment is due next week or she will be forced to live on the street.
3. She does not want to see any other man. Just you.
1. When the escort ad says they can speak English, they know how to say, "200 pesos and your hotel."
2. Once in the business, they almost never get out. When they too old to work, they manage other girls, or work in the business in another capacity. The money, excitement, travel, is too good to pass up.
3. I like Jackson's statement, "The life span of a gift to a chica is 5 minutes."
Moondog
Daddy Rulz
04-05-05, 00:38
If you pay antes not despues any understanding of the services you negotiated in the boliche, cafe or phone are no longer valid. Perhaps this is only a collerary(sp) of Daves law number 3.
To continue.....
6) Once you have had sex with her, or even thought about having sex with her, you may not have sex with any other chica EVER without incurring her wrath (and therefore owing her a "forgiveness fee")
If you go to a club where she is working and discover she is with someone else, you are expected to wait your turn quietly, without making either a fuss or glancing at any other chica until she is available (which may not be for hours, or even several days - no importa!)
7) The value of her services is determined by the most she was ever paid by anyone for anything for any amount of time, plus a cost-of-living increase.
Of course, The exception to this is if she knows, or knows of, or has heard of (see rule 2), a friend who once was paid more then that, in which case her value is that figure plus the percentage increase because her friend is just a puta and not worth as much as she is!
The cost of her taxi is likewise determined by the most she has ever paid a taxi in her life.
8) Time translations: There is temporal vortex in ChicaLand, which re-defines our traditional concepts of time calculation:
1 hour
a) As a measure of when she has to do something (i.e. arrive at your apt.) 1 hour means sometime today.
b) As a measure of time-on-the-job, it means until either you come or she gets tired (or bored.)
2 hours
a) As a measure of when she has to do something (i.e. arrive at your apt.) 2 hours means sometime much later today.
b) As a measure of time-on-the-job, 2 hours means basically the same as 1 hour except you owe her more money
Right Away = Sometime in the next few hours
This afternoon = Before midnight
Tonight = Before dawn
All night (TLN) = Just after the sun rises in some part of the world
And of course...
Tomorrow = ?????
The concept of tomorrow DOES NOT EXIST in Chicaland - The closest concept that does exist may be loosely translated to mean "someday before the end of the world".
To be continued.......
These are great. :)
Moondog
Your Right On The Money Capt Dave
The language spoken by ChicaLanders needs to be understood by those of us who wish to deal with the denizens of CL without disrupting the Force, so...
9. Many words, and even the concept of those words, either don't exist or have very different meanings to CL residents (and therefor visitors!)
i.e.,
Logic:
This concept does not seem to exist, and has been replaced by a new system of reason I refer to as "Flexi-Think", which has the advantage of leaving almost the entire left-brain area available for storage of erroneous facts.
Consequences:
Since this concept frequently requires the existance of "tomorrow" (see rule 8), it exists, at best, only in theory for CL residents. For non-residents it usually has a much more immediate meaning and therefore does apply.
Birthdays:
ChicaLanders may declare a "birthday tomorrow" at any time, without incurring an age penalty. This is allowed because of the CL definition of Tomorrow (see rule 8).
Non-residents ignoring these birthdays run the risk of having to pay a "forgiveness fee" to normalize relations.
(NOTE - this fee may sometimes be payed in negotiable commodities other then cash)
Boyfriend ("Novio"):
This title may be applied to any non-resident that a resident has had sex with more then once. In this usage however, it is an honorary title only, but does allow you the priveledge of giving her gifts, as well as more money for less sex (see rule 4)
It should be noted that "real" (i.e. resident) ChicaLand novios are NEVER seen in public, as they are back home (traditionally drinking and watching TV) waiting for her to come home and give him all the money she made today before attempting (frequently succesfully) to impregnate her.
That ends todays.
Once again, anyone discovering a new ChicaLand definition is encouraged to share.
David
#1. Any money you hand to her for any reason is hers to keep and spend as she may wish. It is immaterial what words were exchanged or what promises were made at the time of the transfer. For example:
You: Mi Amor, here is $500 pesos for you to use to pay your rent next week while I am in the US.
Two weeks later:
Her: (calling you in the US) Hola beebe! I mees yew!
You: Hi my dear. How are you?
Her: I am feen, pero I need to pay my rent.
You: Uh, I gave you 500 pesos to pay your rent when I left.
(pause in the conversation)
Her: (English improves) What are you talking about? I don't understand you. I don't have any money in my purse. I don't have any money to pay my rent! You promised you would pay my rent! If you don't pay my rent, I will be out on the street in three days!
You get the idea.
#2. The word "loan" is a term that men use to discuss business between themselves. The word has no meaning in ChicaLand.
#3. If she does finally acknowledge that somehow, by some twisting of the laws of the universe, that she actually owns you money, then she will be perfectly justified in raising her price to you until the obligation is repayed, at which point she will (maybe) graciously lower her price back to it's original level.
#4. And to more accurately state my ChicaLand rule mentioned by MoonDog: The value of any gift you give to a chica has a half-life of 5 minutes.
For those of you not familiar with the term "half-life", it means that the value is reduced in half in the first 5 minutes, then by half of the remaining value in the next 5 minutes, then by half of that remaining value in the next 5 minutes, etc., etc, etc. In other words, the value dimishes rapidly, but never actually reaches zero, thus permitting you to bring it up in subsequent conversations, where it will be acknowledged, but to little or no credit for you.
You will not be caught Fucking Someone Else.
What this means is if you have a favorita Chica in anyone one Club or Cafe to maintain the relationship you will not be caught pulling another Chica out the establishment, even if she's not their. The Latain Chica Network will immedately "Snich" you off by cell phone or other and it will cost you money and "Brain Damage" to repair the "Miss-Deed".
Now its perfectly alright for her to Fuck anything in sight for thats just business, but don't you get caught doing it. You are her mini cash register so to speak and she doesn't want you wasting sperm on her competition. She wants you horny so when she needs money you'll get a phone call to see if the ATM is open.
Moreover, if your seen pulling another Chica from her place of business the Chica will immedately lose "face or status" with her contemporary's. You see she's been Lieing to her peers. She's told them your paying $300 peso's when your really paying something like $150 peso's. She's told them you have a small dick and you cum in 30 seconds when in fact your hung like Jackson and half the time you can't "Finish" because you've been Fucking Everything in Sight.
One must remmember that after about 3 sessions with thease girls you become her personal property.
Exon
Another very important law of Chicaland is:
Your value to her is based totally on what you MIGHT do for her next.
Forget gratitude. Forget loyalty, friendship, fairness. These relationships at times apply briefly to other women, NEVER to MEN. Women, like cats, are among the most self indulgent creatures in the world. She is only interested in what is good for her, and men exist solely to be exploited. Even with her children, if you study her closely, you will discover she acts always in her own interest, even when at first it may appear she is acting unselfishly for her children (which is why they so readily have children they cannot support).
This is why TIPPING is such a bad idea. It is part of the expected payment, and now only establishes a new base price. She will not be appreciative or grateful. She will only be expectant that you will give her the same and more next time. The most effective tactic for gifts is to give her randomly spaced gifts (NEVER the 1st or 2nd time). You can say anything you like as justification for the gift. The important thing is to stress the randomness. Use dice, cards, the daily number or whatever to achieve it. Try to keep a significant part of your payment to her this random gift. This is the only way it can be easily withheld and therefore retain its value (this is THEIR favorite use of sex in committed relationships).
Therefore, NEVER COMMIT TO ANYTHING IN ADVANCE. Anything you are committed to is in the past, and therefore no longer counts, even if the thing hasn't happened yet. Like tickets to something: show, voyage. Once you buy the tickets and can't back out, their value drops close to zero. Likewise marriage, engagement. And, of course, this is why you can NEVER PAY IN ADVANCE.
ALWAYS DEAL IN INDEFINITE FUTURES: "If you are nice to me, I MIGHT see you again and pay you again. But I really also want to do something else instead, like go to Spain, so I will have to think hard." This is her favorite tactic against you, and it is equally effective against her. BUT YOU MUST MEAN IT, BECAUSE SHE DOES.
I appreciate the above can be difficult to do at times. But, like freedom, it requires and deserves eternal vigilance and effort. And yes, I am still working on it.
Doombringer321
04-11-05, 04:17
As most of you have pointed out most chicas live in a parallel universe, like our own but different.
Most chicas when they see another chica with a regular want to "make him cheat" on the other chica not neccesarily because they like you, or want to fuck you but because they see the other is too succesfull and can't stand that she is getting all the money, while she is has to work her ass off.
This has happened to me several time with CG where I get attached to one of them then the other at first look hard, but pretend not to look, then they pretend to be friendly and smile as they pass by you, then the start up small conversations until you either declare your horny intentions towards her or she delclares that she'll love to do this or that.
Any comments post up.
For those of you not familiar with the term "half-life", it means that the value is reduced in half in the first 5 minutes, then by half of the remaining value in the next 5 minutes, then by half of that remaining value in the next 5 minutes, etc., etc, etc. In other words, the value dimishes rapidly, but never actually reaches zero, thus permitting you to bring it up in subsequent conversations, where it will be acknowledged, but to little or no credit on your part.[/size]Thanks Jackson, I love this one.
Moondog
Cuanto Cuesta
05-19-05, 15:36
Any gift "You" gave her has a half life of 5 minutes; however, any gift another guy may have given her does not decay with time. It may even increase in value. Similarly, any gift you may have given her, although of nearly zero value with respect to you and her; can be worked to full value should she find herself with another man.
Member #4112
05-27-05, 16:55
I have noticed that Chica (South American) Time has no direct relationship with Gringo time regardless of the instrument used to measure it (Timex to Rolex).
I have noticed that cell phone reception dramaticly deteriorates if the conversation moves in a direction the Chica does not like or can not provide answers for.
Once with a Chica, the phrase "what have you done for me lately?" comes to mind, even if "Lately" is defined as 5 minutes past the last time you did something for her.
I have had Chica's ask for money for presciptions, doctor's appointments, dental work, a gift for (fill in the blank), and more things than I can remember. Got these girls are inventive!
In Chica Land, at the beginning, you give a little money and get a lot of sex, then you give her more money and get less sex, finally you give her all your money and get no sex. That stage is called Marriage.
Be Safe,
Be There
In Chica Land, at the beginning, you give a little money and get a lot of sex, then you give her more money and get less sex, finally you give her all your money and get no sex. That stage is called Marriage.
Be Safe,
Be ThereI once heard a stewardess ask someone why the bride is always smiling?
Reason: She knows she never has to give head again!
Many years ago a wise old monger told me that all girls work for the same radio station--WAAW--Whores, All Are Whores.
Regulr Travlr
09-14-05, 11:31
All you learned BsAs mongers.
I have studiously perused the forum in anticipation of my upcoming first trip in November. I am trying to follow the RTTF rule and avoid asking questions that are already clearly explained. There is so much good info that this is pretty easy. However, there is one thing I cannot find.
Can someone clearly define and explain the mongering approach in apartments vs. Clubs vs. Boliches? Also what is a boliche? The definition I keep getting comes up under bowling. I am not interested in bowling on my trip.
I think the private apartments are much like the Privee in Amsterdam, basically whorehouses with incall. But the club / boliche scene has a lot of variances.
If this definition exists somewhere on the board then a huge mea culpa and I am prepared for the appropriate flaming.
Thanks.
Traveller
Daddy Rulz
09-14-05, 13:24
Can someone clearly define and explain the mongering approach in apartments vs. Clubs vs. Boliches? Also what is a boliche? The definition I keep getting comes up under bowling. I am not interested in bowling on my trip.I think we use the term Boliche incorrectly, I asked a remis driver in Resistencia to take me to a Boliche and he took me to this night club. I was assuming it was like Madaho, Hook etc as there was a lot of really hot young girls out front dressed like Gattos. Lucky for me it wasn't open yet and when I asked the driver if they were all Gattos he said no. He told me I was looking for a caberet, I told him I didn't care what it was called I was looking for a hooker to fuck and if he took me some place where there was a hot one I would get him one as well. He did, she was, so I did.
Approaches.
Apartments are pretty cut and dried, you see the line up if you like it you choose and pay up front. Extras such as BBBJ and Anal are usually extra but not always. Ask the receptionista.
Approaches in Cafes and Clubs have been discussed ad nausium and you should RTTF. Consider yourself flamed.
Travlr,
I think, Daddy is right, and also the dictionary does not help here very much, which also may be related to the fact that European dictionaries show "Spanish" spanish, and the you. S. Variety is probably influenced by the country directly south of the border.
The way the word is used here (correctly or not) a boliche is a pub / bar - like establishment where the female clientele is young, usually attractive and available.
The approach - beating a dead hores, and risking getting flamed myself - you:
1) go in.
2) Get something to drink.
3) Wait a while until your night vision adapts to the barely existing light.
4) look around.
5) if you like what you see start chatting with the object of your liking, and
6) If, after some talk, you still like the chica, you start serious negotiations. If not, go back to step 4.
Serious negotiations means, you establish what you want - where, how, how much, terms of payment (pesos and afterwards) No agreement - back to step 4.
Agreement - you buy the obligatory chica drink, pay, tip the bartender, get a taxi, tip the doorman, and take her wherever you agreed to.
If thats all to no avail, pay and tip the bartender, and try the next boliche. For your convenience, at many locations there are several of them door by door.
Hope that helps.
El Alemán
Full Throttle
09-14-05, 14:12
If this definition exists somewhere on the board then a huge mea culpa and I am prepared for the appropriate flaming.
Thanks.
TravellerSee how intimidating YOU GUYS are?
A boliche is technically a dance club. I noticed the same thing you did about bowling. If you translate the other way - English to Spanish - freetranslation. Com does convert dance club into 'un boliche.'
The boliches referenced in the forum refer to clubs where there is some semblance of a stage or dance floor, a bar, girls, taxis, and an over-dressed doorman who receives tips for doing nothing.
You are correct regarding the apartamentos / departamentos. I suppose there is a distinction there, and somebody might even have told me recently, but I forgot.
More distinctions:
Apartamentos are often daytime establishments where an hour with a chica will cost between 100 and 150P, plus tips for services mentioned above. These same girls, incidentally, are available through many local websites at triple the price, but they spread comparitively few diseases when contracted in this manner.
Boliches con chicas differ from each other greatly. Some have incall (mostly porteno / Capt. Dave joints) some have regular stage shows (Estilo Nuevo) some have sporadic shows (Catto's) some have interactive dancing (Jaz) and some just have girls hanging around looking at their cell phones.
Except for a Chinese run establishment or 2, most boliches are open in the evening through 3-5am.
Prices range from the low $100's (plus drink / exit fees and such) to $400-600. Again, these girls spread diseases only during daylight hours when the fee / tip quotient is insufficient.
FT
Full Throttle
09-14-05, 14:17
How could the grammar software NOT know that something dot com is a website, not a reason to add a space and capitalize the 'c' in com. I'd demonstrate, but I'm sure the stupid software would 'fix' the demonstration.
Hi Full Throttle,
I've asked my programmer to fix this anomaly, and I'm sure he will. However, after you post a report, you can immediately edit it to your satisfaction because the formatting script does not effect edits.
Thanks,
Jackson
Daddy Rulz
09-14-05, 14:45
An over-dressed doorman who receives tips for doing nothing.Laughing my ass off in sex prison.
Thanks Throttle.
Regulr Travlr
09-15-05, 13:27
Daddy, El Aleman, Throttle.
Thanks for your quick and helpful replies. With this in mind I will be rereading some of the club / boliche threads. And I now do not have to worry about packing my bowling shoes.
I will be down shortly before Thanksgiving and will post specifics later with hopes of meeting up with some of you guys.
Traveller
It has been advised several times, to buy the perfume samplers on sale in duty free shops and give one of the little bottles as a propina to your chica if you have been satisfied. I did it several times, it makes the girls happy, because it's unexpected.
But, one important CAVEAT:
Make your own premises (apartment, hotel room, car, boat, place under a bridge, whatever) OFF LIMITS for even the attempt of thinking about immediately opening that bottle. I am sitting here presently with wide opened windows, because 0.5 ml of eau de parfum splashed over an immaculate, 25 year old chica body produce a room filling cloud that numbs your nasal receptors in an instant.
Believe me, overexposure to Lancome is NOT good. And Chanel No. 5, according to my father, makes impotent. So, beware.
El Alemán,
Who tries without success to smell the rest of his Malbec.
Jackson: feel free to move this post.
THE RULES.
1) The female always makes the rules.
2) The rules are subject to change at any time without prior notification.
3) No male can possibly know all the rules.
4) If the female suspects the male knows all the rules, she must immediately change some or all the rules.
5) The female is never wrong.
6) If the female is wrong, it is because of a flagrant misunderstanding which was a direct result of something the male did or said wrong.
7) If Rule 6 applies, the male must apologize immediately for causing the misunderstanding.
8) The female can change her mind at any given point in time for any reason.
9) The male must never change his mind without express written consent from the female.
10) The female has every right to be angry or upset at any time.
11) The male must remain calm at all times, unless the female wants him to be angry or upset.
12) The female must not, under any circumstances, let the male know whether or not she wants him to be angry or upset.
13) Any attempt by the male to document these rules could result in severe bodily harm.
14) If the female has PMS, all rules are null and void.
WOMEN'S ENGLISH PART 2:
1) We need to talk REALLY MEANS I need to complain.
2) You're so manly REALLY MEANS You need a shave and you sweat a lot.
3) This kitchen is so inconvenient REALLY MEANS I want a new house.
4) You have to learn to communicate. REALLY MEANS Just agree with me.
5) Do you love me? REALLY MEANS I'm going to ask for something expensive.
6) How much do you love me? REALLY MEANS I did something you're not going to like.
7) I'll be ready in a minute. REALLY MEANS Be patient I'll be a while.
8) Am I a little fat? REALLY MEANS Tell me I'm beautiful.
9) All we're going to buy is a soap dish REALLY MEANS Major shopping trip. Did you bring your checkbook?
UNDERSTANDING WOMEN (A MAN'S PERSPECTIVE)
I know I'm not going to understand women. I'll never understand how you can take boiling hot wax, pour it onto your upper thigh, rip the hair out by the roots, and still be afraid of a spider.
Orgasm Donor
12-17-05, 08:34
Hey guys this is my very first post on AP. Here are some definitions I learned in Costa Rica.
"Pisos Ceramica" = Tile floors, or, your floor is to be used as an ashtray.
"I need a book bag for school" = not a cheap one at the dollar store, I want the $40 Puma bag to impress my friends.
"her boyfriend bought her that coat" = You are a "pinche-gringo" (cheapskate)
And my personal favorite.
"C. U. N. T." = can't Understand Normal Thinking.
OD
I was trying to enter his forum for international, and it said something about a federal lawsuit, and he moved the sites, but would not say where. Anyone know where they are?
It would also be nice if Jackson could list each site with a link at the top so we could find them more easily.
So I call up Fabiana last week and she tells me "I'm in the Provinca" and will be in Town on Sabado.
OK, so this morning I call her up and she tells me she's headed back to the Provienca. "Well how about a Quickie" before you leave I respond.
"No I must go now Exon, Your a Cheap Skate" she reply's. "Por Que" I respond again. "You only pay me $200 peso's" she say's.
"Well what about all the money I put into your apartment" I reply. "Well that was then and this is Now" she answers.
As Jackson would put it, "The Half Life Of a Chica gift" is soon forgoten.
Exon
Exon,
Between getting beat up by a fake handjob "artist" and cold shouldered by this Fabiana, I hope there are some positive experiences that you are sitting on. Of course, the negative ones are more entertaining, and thanks for sharing.
Actually there are Doggboy,
I had a very interesting experience at the ¨Big Easy" last night.
By the way I've personally renamed Cafe Excedra to the "Big Easy" simply because its EASY to get laid there. Not that it has anything to do with New Orleans.
Anyway, I ran into a Psycho Chica their I'd Fucked about a year & a half ago. Chica Seaker was with me and he'll vouch for me this girl is a Drama Queen.
Now I don't normaly Fuck Psycho's but this pussy was so good in my memory I had to try it again. She's a mutt mixture of Turkish, Syrain and something else and looks very Middle Eastern. And under the current political climate its good to Fuck thease sorta people.
Well I get her back to my apartment and put up with all her nonsense but we finally get it on. Absolutely world class BBBJ, they the main event. This Chica, Sara is her name, can muscle Fuck you.
Now this is a very rare thing among western women and few of us have experienced it, our women are lazy. But I've read quite common in Middle Eastern cultures. Seems women are taught to use their pussy muscle's to milk your dick much like you'd milk a cow. You don't do anything but lay their as her pussy mucsle's suck the sperm out of your dick Its a delightfull experience which was preformed on me last night.
Matter of fact, Psycho as she is I've been trying to call her all day, I want Mas.
Exon
Exon,
Good to hear. That girl sounds like a pussy dick sucking machine. Before you go crazy renaming Excedra, remember you might confuse mongers who could confuse the "Big Easy" with Cafe ORLEANS". And yea, I agree, it is easy and comfortable there. Actually, my favorite place so far. There are chicas there at nearly anytime, the quality is IMHO fair to good, and you ain't gotta be cutting bait at 3 in the fucking morning, often surrounded by a load of jackasses in some overhyped "club". Course, I go to them too.
The dog
I have been to Excedra many times and to me it always seems dead there ~ what time do you guys go? Are some days better than others?
Thanks for the info.
Veterano
I have been to Excedra many times and to me it always seems dead there ~ what time do you guys go? Are some days better than others?
Thanks for the info.
VeteranoVeterano.
I go between 9-12pm during the week and sometimes in the late afternoon (particularly on Sunday) I hear it can be pretty busy after midnight, just as everywhere else is. You might find it slow from time to time, but my experience is that unless it is completely dead there are usually a few chicas that will draw my interest, and one hopes, vice versa. IMHO we are not talking 8-10 scale chicas, but often, enough 6s-8s will be around. As Exon has noted, it is an "easy" place to get laid, and it is an "easy" atmosphere. Clearly, it's not for everybody, and some mongers rarely, if ever, hang out there.
I did her again last night, passed up "Little Marisol" too due her. The Middle Eastern Chica I wrote about below.
Even "Hilda" recomends this Chica, telling Exon "Shes Very, Very Good" when I pulled her the other night. Always trust "Hilda's" recomendations at Excedra, by the way.
Well I was taking a Newbie on a guided tour of Centro and ran into Little Marisol and promised her I'd be back to Due her in an hour or so, I lied.
We all got back to Excedra and their she was, I told the Newbie the Tour was over. For Exon, s personal gradification was much more important than his tour.
Back at the apartmento she was prefecto. Gorgeous thing to look at but its the way she "Snap's Pussy" that really turns me on. Its like getting a "Hand Job" only your Fucking, if that makes any sense, which it doesn't. But its very good.
We tried every possition, but I was so turned on I forgot one of my favorites.
That being Reverse Cow Girl.
I like Reverse Cow Girl. Theres something very sensuous about watching your hard cock slide in an out out your partners pussy'while you lay back thrusting up to meet her pussy coming down on your cock. Its really the only possition you can have your cake and eat it too. That being you can Star in your own Porn movie and watch yourself Fuck, course I don't film my conquests, but I do like to watch.
What I'm really interested in, hopefully it it will happen this afternoon, is Reverse Cow Girl with "Pussy Snapping". I'm thinking I'd really like watching this Chica's Pussy Muscles contract around my cock as I'm Fucking her in Reverse Cow Girl as we thrust up and down.
Exon
If in reverse CG one is "having one's cake and eating it too," isn't one eating something that would not normally be on the menu?
Just asking.
Have you tried "Reverse Doggie"?
Think about it!
Suerte, Veterano
I was informed by a local monger and infrequent poster, that tonight will be slow in the clubs due to " Viernes Santos". It is his opinion that many chicas don't work tonight. It will be interesting to see if this is reflected at all in posts from activity to occur (or not) esta noche.
I was informed by a local monger and infrequent poster, that tonight will be slow in the clubs due to " Viernes Santos". It is his opinion that many chicas don't work tonight. It will be interesting to see if this is reflected at all in posts from activity to occur (or not) esta noche.Jackson.
Time for Doggboy to get his own thread. Here he finally makes a useful post and it expires the next day. Jackson we need a poster of the year award, doggboy seems to be the top contender. Jackson I'm trying to take notes from all of doggboys useful posts but I'm out of paper.
Marak5
Hi Marak5,
For the record, I like Doggboy's posts.
Thanks,
Jackson
Jackson.
Time for Doggboy to get his own thread. Here he finally makes a useful post and it expires the next day. Jackson we need a poster of the year award, doggboy seems to be the top contender. Jackson I'm trying to take notes from all of doggboys useful posts but I'm out of paper.
Marak5You can be very funny. I like that in you.
Member #4110
03-11-13, 04:06
I play in Asuncion, PY, but I am sure that many of you guys in BA encounter the same issue. You have a really good time with a chica in an apartment, and the chica lets you know, one way or another, that she would be offended if you chose another chica in the line-up on your next trip to the casa. Indeed, chicas have cried and expressed real pain if I see them after I have chosen a different chica.
I don't think it is only a financial issue to the chica who is marking her turf, but of course it is partly a financial issue. It is also a matter of pride. The poor girl has to sit in a dull room all day, and every time a guy comes into the casa, she has to compete with every other chica. So it can hurt her feelings if some guy who said he had a great time with her chooses another chica, particularly is she is having an unlucky day.
Here's my situatiion. I am helping four different young chicas, each at a different casa, learn about the joys of anal sex. In each case, the chica and I started out with vaginal, and in each case the chica decided to give anal a try (usually she had heard from her friends that it was fun and a money-maker, but only after practice with a nice man she can trust to withdraw if it hurts too much). I adore all four chicas, and I hope to keep seeing each regularly until I leave the country. Some make more progress than others, so that two now really like to get blasted all the way and hard after a nice slow warm-up, but the laggard is adorable in her sincere efforts. The last thing I want to do is to make any of these girls, each at a different casa, feel bad. I want them to have confidence in their culitos, their sexiness. So much of their identities is in their sexiness. Their future husbands will be the real beneficiaries of my training, and I wish them all the happiness.
However, there are only a few reasonably clean departamentos (what they are called in Py) within walking distance in the Centro. So my fear of making my sincere trainee feel insecure deprives me of the thrill of the new anal enthusiast who is working her first day after a break from the University, or the skilled enthusiast I might have missed because she was occupada when I happened to show up in the past.
Yes, I am investigating other casas, other possibilities. There are seven days in the week, so one's best effrots with the same four should be balanced by new experiences.
Here are the strategies I have already tried:
1. I call the agency early to find out if one of my favorite chicas is not working, as a green light to see a different chica.
2. I tell one of my favorite chicas that I love to see lots of chicas even though she is my favorita (which is true, for that particular casa).
HOWEVER, does anyone have any advice on how I can help each of my four lovely chicas understand that my choice of a diiffernt chica is not an attack on her personal and truly appreciated wonderfulness?
Advice, anyone?
I do write this with the knowledge that I not exactly staving.
Riverm, just tell them like it is. Look them straight in the eye and ask "Do you know why men come to these places?" Because they want variety. Of course that's not the only reason, but it's a big reason. And as a man you have a need for variety. Ask them how many times you have been together, then tell them you have rarely (or never) seen a working chica that many times. Why, because you really enjoy being with her, you care about her, she turns you on. But it is still a business relationship. She is not exclusive and neither are you. You still enjoy variety. And you hope she can understand that and still look forward to seeing you. Ask her how she might feel if you picked someone else at the place. Suggest to her, she should be happy you are enjoying your freedom to experience variety. It is not because she has any shortcoming, otherwise, why would you have seen her so many times? Have her understand, you are happiest when you get to experience variety.
If she can't handle an honest, open discussion about it without hurting her feelings, maybe it's time to move on. You have to decide your own priorities.
I want them to have confidence in their culitosNice one, love it! LOL.
Riverm, just tell them like it is. Look them straight in the eye and ask "Do you know why men come to these places?" Because they want variety. Of course that's not the only reason, but it's a big reason. And as a man you have a need for variety. Ask them how many times you have been together, then tell them you have rarely (or never) seen a working chica that many times. Why, because you really enjoy being with her, you care about her, she turns you on. But it is still a business relationship. She is not exclusive and neither are you. You still enjoy variety. And you hope she can understand that and still look forward to seeing you. Ask her how she might feel if you picked someone else at the place. Suggest to her, she should be happy you are enjoying your freedom to experience variety. It is not because she has any shortcoming, otherwise, why would you have seen her so many times? Have her understand, you are happiest when you get to experience variety.
If she can't handle an honest, open discussion about it without hurting her feelings, maybe it's time to move on. You have to decide your own priorities.
Nice one, love it! LOL.Love it. Straight to the point. Are you sure you aren't a republican? IALOTFLMAO! I am back end of April, most of may. You have any holidays left. Keep working for the man Esten. Monger on. Toymann.
TejanoLibre
03-12-13, 02:39
Have you tried "Reverse Doggie"?
Think about it!
Suerte, VeteranoOf course I practice reverse doggie but it depends on what we have taken, or at least what I have taken. On another note:
When your Chica tells you that what's her's is her's and what's your's is her's then you are fucked without a paddle!
Happens every time. They who posses the Golden Pussy have all the sayso to the AVERAGE MONGER.
Be strong and learn to say NO!
TL.
Keep working for the man Esten. LOL!! Very funny!
Toymann, did you teach your employees to say "Yes Boss" (instead of Yes) ? I bet you love hearing "Yes Boss".
With the new year my holiday quota is replenished, but I won't be down to BA until the fall. I have other places to see, thinking about Central America early summer. Have a good trip, looks like your business is doing very well under Obama.
LOL!! Very funny!
Toymann, did you teach your employees to say "Yes Boss" (instead of Yes) ? I bet you love hearing "Yes Boss".
With the new year my holiday quota is replenished, but I won't be down to BA until the fall. I have other places to see, thinking about Central America early summer. Have a good trip, looks like your business is doing very well under Obama.I never use the term work for, actually prefer work with. We are mostly stable in spite of Obama. Last years profits were down 250 k, fighting RAC audits, defending our patient care against after the fact efforts to recover money to feed bloated obomocare, adapting to government over regulation (reminds me of where I came from in fact). Already, 10 percent of the clinics within my specialty have gone out of business. They are all small business Esten, target number 1 for our exalted leader. I expect, 10 percent more go belly up in 2013. As I came from this type of horror show I am, in fact, uniquely capable of adapting. We will have a good year in 2013. That said, my employees will have a tough year. In business, the pain felt by the owners always trickles down to the employees the next year. No raises in 2012 will be followed by no raises in 2013 and followed by the same in 2014.
Right now, it's all about surviving, and my company will be one of the survivors. Welcome to the new world of American healthcare dude. Restricted services, bloated government administration, higher costs, decreased employee benefits and of course, rationed and delayed care for all. You asked for it, YOU GOT IT!
Hope you can coordinate your trip in the fall to coincide with mine. October is good. Monger on dude. Toymann.
Daddy Rulz
03-13-13, 01:50
I made an appointment for a guy staying at the house. It was with a premium chica, 600 the hour. After I sent the "yes he will take the XXX appointment and his name is blah" I thought my part was over.
One minute later I get a text saying, "Could he pay me 100 dollars instead of 600 pesos?"
HUH! I wrote her back and said, "baby 600 pesos and 100 dollars aren't the same and or guys NEVER pay in dollars." (This isn't my first fucking rodeo) I told her though that I generally change dollars to pesos every month and if she wanted to hold dollars I would be just as happy to change them with her at whatever rate I was getting at my cambio that day. I thought I was doing her a favor, but no good deed goes unpunished.
She wrote me back and said: "I don't want to buy dollars at the blue rate, I want to buy them at the official rate.
I answered: "Honey you and everybody in this country wants to buy dollars at the official rate but you can't. All the guys that stay at this house know they can get 7.6-7.7 for their dollars and they won't sell them to you for 6. If you want to raise your rate to 100 dollars or the equivalent in pesos I will be happy to tell them that. It's your body and your business you can charge what you wish, but I don't think many guys will call you if you do.
She responded: "They won't know the blue / official rate unless you tell them.
I wrote: "There is a thread on the forum about this very thing, they all know honey.
She answered: "I hate AP! And you are a bad man for not helping me. Don't call me anymore!
Not sure which law of the original this falls under. I know it's in the "general disassociation with reality" group, just not sure which one. I couldn't help but shake my head, I generally send her 2-3000 pesos worth of business a month and ask for nothing in return. She just walked away from that because I wouldn't help her rip guys off for an additional 175 pesos a session.
After this, to the best of my knowlege, nobody went fishing.
DR.
A question: why are most chicas reluctant to do deals outside the clubs. Have gone to various Boliches and had a good time with some chicas, they have given me their number, often without me asking, and then when I call they tell me to return to the club. But on another occasion I took out a dancer, and she had no problems in making arrangements outside the club. Are the chicas required to fulfil a quota of drink purchases? Or are they worried the club will find out? Just curious about all of this.
Big Boss Man
11-20-14, 13:12
I am reading James Ellroy's "Perfida" on this trip. I came across this sentence.
"One man in twenty would GET her -- and she always knew who those men were.".
From further reading, it is hell to be one of those twenty.
It got me thinking about life of as a sex tourist. Most of the guys I meet from the Board are alphas. (I happen to be a beta. It was my best friend who went to Harvard to play football.) Alphas always want control of the situation. My observation is that only a few of the alphas are successful in long-term relationships and maybe that is what they want.
But the other side of the coin is that these chicas actually meet more men than we as sex tourists meet other women. There must be kind a kind of knowledge that builds up from the multitude of these experiences. Perhaps these chicas know very well the men they can play and the ones they cannot. Could it be that the chicas target only the ones they can play?
Big Boss Man
10-14-15, 20:45
Babysitters sometimes are the biggest hindrance to you plans. Be flexible. I can only hope that this all makes me a better human being.
Big Boss Man
10-15-15, 18:59
I took my favorite chica to a parrilla. She ordered the Argentinian platter that comes with a huge assortment of meats. I was wondering what the chica, who most guys would consider thin, was doing. The waiter who probably knew what was up suggested that I order a separate bife de ojo. Instead of sharing a salad, the chica ordered her own separate salad on which she proceeded to use mayo as the salad dressing. The bilingual waiter told me in English that this was highly unusual. She proceeded to eat the whole salad and only nibble on the wide assortment of meats. I was eating light because we were having sex after the dinner. I did not want to get stuffed. In the end, we had a huge amount of leftover meat that was to be carried out to be shared, of course, with her family. I was highly amused. It was a far better night than staying home watching the major league playoffs in Spanish.
I took my favorite chica to a parrilla. She ordered the Argentinian platter that comes with a huge assortment of meats. I was wondering what the chica, who most guys would consider thin, was doing. The waiter who probably knew what was up suggested that I order a separate bife de ojo. Instead of sharing a salad, the chica ordered her own separate salad on which she proceeded to use mayo as the salad dressing. The bilingual waiter told me in English that this was highly unusual. She proceeded to eat the whole salad and only nibble on the wide assortment of meats. I was eating light because we were having sex after the dinner. I did not want to get stuffed. In the end, we had a huge amount of leftover meat that was to be carried out to be shared, of course, with her family. I was highly amused. It was a far better night than staying home watching the major league playoffs in Spanish.In my opinion, you should never tolerate this sort of behavior, if for no other reason it makes you look like a big pussy who she now knows can be easily manipulated.
Nevertheless, given that you didn't figure out what her plan was until after she had ordered a "feast to go", I would suggest that the correct response would be to completely ignore the extra food on the table at the end of the dinner. If she moves to get the food boxed up, you can tell her that you don't want to take any food home. I'd do it coolly and calmly, without the slightest suggestion that you were on to her scam. If she insists, tell her that to you taking a "doggy bag" out of an Argentine restaurant is low class, period. You must be unemotional but firm. Let her quietly steam in the realization that her plans had been thwarted by your unpredictability. That's good for you.
If you had concerns that her extended family (and Argentine boyfriend) would not benefit from her ruse, then you can console yourself with the understanding that she can use the funds that you've been generously bestowing on her for sex to make a trip to the grocery store on her way home.
Thanks,
Jax
BTW, this situation reminds me of what Nine-Toe-Moe would do when he took his GF to a restaurant: Moe would order a drink for himself, and then pour some into a glass for her to drink. Then, when his meal came, he would cut off a portion from his plate and put it on a plate for her. If she wanted anything to go, he'd tell her to take the bread on the table.
J
Member #3320
10-15-15, 22:00
I would rather go for dinner after the sex and after I am done with the dinner would be more on a friendly note rather than the seduction. In which case, it would be easy to thwart off any scam by her at that point of time.
Many years ago I met a chica in Cancun and had a good session with her, so I invited her out for dinner and TLN the next day. We actually went to a very nice Argentina style parilla in town. We ordered our separate meals, and I was glad to treat her to a great dinner with the works including wine, which I understood she does not often get to experience. She said she works to help out her family who lives in the area. Well, she ate less than half, which was not completely surprising. At the end she asked for the leftovers to be boxed up. She was going to bring it back to her family. Soon enough the waiter came back, with three LARGE boxes of food. He put them in a big shopping-style bag with a handle. I was partly amused, but moreso a little put off because we were supposed to check out some clubs after dinner. And now she was going to haul around this big shopping bag like we had just gone christmas shopping ! Dropping it off at the hotel was not convenient as my hotel was far away. I just didn't react quickly enough to stop it, and didn't feel right saying no after the waiter had packed everything up. So we ended up walking past a few clubs, my chica with her large bag in tow, and ended up at a small bar where we actually had some good laughs watching some drunk people play some drunken games. Then back to the hotel after.
I don't know if she pre-planned this. But it did catch me off guard. In the end it wasn't a huge deal, and I'll say I did see her again (not for dinner though) and got great service at good value.
You guys should have met my friend Roxana the Barber. No leftovers with her! Man, that gal could eat. Weighed about 45 kilos. Plus, she was the only argie I ever met who liked spicy food.
I used to make these quiches when she would come over, asparagus and artichoke hearts and that pseudo crab they sell at Disco. I'd make a big salad too. She'd dump Cholula all over that fucking quiche and put some on the salad too. She would eat like 3/4 of it and I would eat the other 1/4 and about half as much salad as she had. She always ate a lot of bread with that, too.
Then we'd fuck, she would fall asleep, and I would work for a while. When she woke up a couple of hours later, I'd fuck her again, then she would get in the shower and I would make her a big ass cheeseburger with avocado and red onion, plus a bunch of stir fried vegetables over rice. Fuck, I could barely eat some rice and a few veggies after all the quiche we would eat.
What a great gal. Fucked her once a week for over seven years. She went back to school and got her high school diploma and now she is studying to be an accountant while working as an armed guard. The god damn pistol is bigger than she is! But the best thing about it was, she knew too many people in the hood so she wouldn't go to restaurants with me.
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