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I hate to be a party pooper, but just so I don't even consider doing anything stupid like and accidental bareback inccident, I'd like to be armed with some information as I'm heading back to BA this October 3rd and it just occurred to me, do any of the chica sites (Platynum, Gemidos etc) regularly monitor the ladies for STD's? Also just so I'm reminded, are there any latest HIV figuires for the last year in BA? Again sorry for the downer post but any info would be appreciatted.
Thanks
OslersVoice
09-21-05, 10:20
Here's a report on HIV incidence in Argentina: http:/ www. Hivcenternyc. Org / research / samesex / predictors. Htm (http://www.Hivcenternyc.Org/research/samesex/predictors.htm)
HIV / AIDS Surveillance Data Base Summary Tables.
http:/ www. Census. Gov / ipc / www / hiv3lati. Html (http://www.Census.Gov/ipc/www/hiv3lati.html)
World Bank Group.
http:/ www. Worldbank. Org / worldaidsday / charts. Htm (http://www.worldbank.Org/worldaidsday/charts.htm)
do any of the chica sites (Platynum, Gemidos etc) regularly monitor the ladies for STD's?No.
Also just so I'm reminded, are there any latest HIV figuires for the last year in BA?Chenene, you're FAR more likely to contact gonorrhea, syphillis, genital warts, or herpes from chicas than HIV. A frank discussion of your activities with your doctor would be helpful to you. One of the things he / she can do is prescribe a broad-spectrum antibiotic and an anti-fungal cream to you for use after your trip is over. If you're shy to do it with your doc, go to your local STD clinic and talk to the docs there. There is no benefit to you in being shy about it, they've heard it all, even if your personal physician hasn't.
I hate to be a party pooper, but just so I don't even consider doing anything stupid like and accidental bareback inccident, I'd like to be armed with some information as I'm heading back to BA this October 3rd and it just occurred to me, do any of the chica sites (Platynum, Gemidos etc) regularly monitor the ladies for STD's? Also just so I'm reminded, are there any latest HIV figuires for the last year in BA? Again sorry for the downer post but any info would be appreciatted.
ThanksHi,
The more professional ones certainly do it, on a regular basis: it's a question of education, and they do care about their lives as much as we do. I asked several of the independent escorts that announce on the major internet websites (Platynum, Area Vip, Gemidos, Bairesgirls, Altosex, etc) and they all replied affirmatively. Most of them perform these tests twice a year. I hope this serves.
All the best
OslersVoice
09-21-05, 15:02
My personal party kit contains:
Doxycycline 100mg tabs.
Famvir 500 or 1000 mg tabs.
Zithromax 500 mg tabs.
Cialis 20mg tabs.
I take one of each of the top 3 just before or just after my date.
The Cialis is a "just in case" precaution.
You can substitute Viagra or Levitra for Cialis, but I would not recommend substituting the others (with the possible exception of Levaquin for Zithromax)
Taking antibiotics prophylactically is incredibly stupid and counterproductive. It will render them less effective or even totally ineffective when you actually need them. Just ask any doctor.
OslersVoice
09-21-05, 16:10
Taking antibiotics prophylactically is incredibly stupid and counterproductive. It will render them less effective or even totally ineffective when you actually need them. Just ask any doctor.Actually taking them prophylactically is not stupid and it only becomes counterproductive by causing increased resistance when taken chronically.
Famvir is being marketed to partners of patients with Herpes to prevent the transmission of the virus to the uninfected partner. This is no different.
Antibiotics are given prophylactically to people travelling to other countries to prevent Traveller's diarrhea. This is no differnt.
If you are taking doxycycline every time you monger, either you are doing it chronically or you don't monger much, and I have been all over the world and never been advised to take antibiotics prophylacticly for diarrhea, only Imodium, which is not an antibiotic.
I don't know anything about Famvir.
Thanks for this info Dickhead. I love BA, been there twice and done my fair share of mongering, but also both times had to get shots and pills afterwards (even though I wore my hat) I am going back in about a month and actually thought about taking the meds while I was down there helping the local economy and maybe reduce my chances of catching a bug.
Anybody else has info / experience on this matter?
Full Throttle
09-21-05, 17:59
Leonio- Shots and pills for what?
If for STD's, what were your symptoms? Did a doctor diagnose the symptoms specifically, or prescribe a cocktail approach?
FT
About two weeks after coming back from BA I started having a burning sensation while pissing, and my doc opted for the "cocktail approach"
To the member who initiated this thread - your question has induced a long overdue blood surge back to the important "head" - thank you. I'm reminded that it's all fun and games until that first wart appears.
Yes, as fun as these chicas are and how much they give us that wonderful GFE treatment Argentinians are so acapable of, one, including myself, forgets that they have quite a bit of mileage on them and at the end of the day, your GFE is on her way to their next "gig" and you are on your own nursing all the shit everybody's whose ever banged her has exposed her to, too.
To the member who initiated this thread - your question has induced a long overdue blood surge back to the important "head" - thank you. I'm reminded that it's all fun and games until that first wart appears.
There were at least 2 experiences I had at massage places in BsAs where the chicas intentionally tried to pass on their STDs.
1) At the famous place on Cordoba 966. Julieta, who many of you probably know - I was fingering her, she got very very moist - put her hand down between her legs came back with glistening pussy juice on her hand and attempted to start stroking me with it. Very very uncool in my book. I let her know. She tried again - I had to push her hand away. She's kind of a cute girl, but one couldn't happen to notice her yellow / blood shot eyes, if you ever saw her in proper lighting. It sure felt to me that she was actively trying to use her bodily fluids to infect me.
On a previous visit with her, I opted for two chicas for the massage. Her partner in crime, who was totally forgetable, so I can't site a name, was clearly sick during our session (conventional illness) I got sick as hell for almost a week that very evening - deep bronchial infection.
2) Brisa Masajes. There used to be a girl there named Loly. Tall, thin, nice ass, crap tits. She would wear horrendous red lipstick - and almost forced the kissing on you. I visited her 2x and on the second time, she came to me literally a minute after the last schmo was out the door. She was all sweaty, and covered in the musk of her last john. Terrible hyegine. As before - she kissed me, and started sucking me off - without a rubber (I know that's the holy grail to a lot of you lads - but very risky business) and I noticed that she was using a strange technique - kind of manipulating it so all the area of her lips was touching my schlong. The next day I felt the tell tale tingling on my lip, and by the day after that, had a pretty bad oral herpes outbreak. I'm convinced that she was covering her open herpes lesion with that ghoulish red lipstick and went out of her way to expose me to it both to my mouth, and to my dick - via that weird blowjob technique.
The fact that the girls at some site go in twice a year for a supposed check-up is meaningless. The very last guy a chica was with could give her something that she passes on to you in a heartbeat. It's a very dangerous game, messing with pros.
Jingwei.
My initial comments."wow!"
I'm reluctant to call you overly paranoid given your bout with oral herpes. I will say that to each his own aka: always go with your gut instincts. If you get bad vibes from a chica. By all means do watcha ya gotta do.
I personally have never experienced what you have. What about others?
It has been my experience that, just about every girl in the biz does regular check-ups, except ofcourse the dime store hookers, but come on guys, you shouldn't be going there anyways, second, the high end clubs most definetly test girls for everything once a month or once every two weeks, I have family who owns medical centers throughout South America, and the way it works is a club will contract a high end medical center and that medical center will send a physician and an assistant to do complete STD screening, including labwork and physical examinations. It is mandatory, The last thing a high end place wants is to have a foreign dignitary in town for some thing or other contracting something from one of their girls, they want high end clients so in this sense you get what you pay for. Do you really think a girl who sleeps with 10 tricks a day for 50 pesos a pop can afford to get high quality PCR or RNA tests done? Do you think she will spend her few pesos on it? Don't think so. Always remember if you do something stupid like go bareback with a questionable Betty, remember that you can go to a specialist within 24hrs and they have a treatment than includes a combination of retrovirals that will make you sick and will take a month to complete, but it can reduce your risks of becoming infected with anything.
Last but not least, using antibiotics when you don't need them is dumb, it will render said antibiotic inefective in any future treatment, the human body was made to be resistant and taking any medication when not needed will only increase your bodies resistance, most people do it out of paranoia, if you think you got something don't be ashamed and go see your doc, they will prescribe the right medication, and if you must use something use the low to mid range stuff and leave the high end stuff for when you really need it,.
If you want to monger responsibly you should have a good Doc anyways,
Someone you can see once every 3-6 months for a check up.
Sorry if no one wanted to hear all this but its important, get your bases covered and then have ALL the fun you want hehe.
P. S I'm not a doc, just have a be. S in biology, never finished med school.
So do your own research and have fun.
Happy hoe hunting.
Badboy
Thomaso276
07-07-06, 21:24
"the high end clubs most definetly test girls for everything once a month or once every two weeks"
First I ever heard of it in BA. I never met a chica who related that their clubs has these mandatory tests. Maybe in other South American countries?
Hi,
I had one last note on antibiotics, I have seen in the previous posts people saying to use FULL SPECTRUM antibiotics like Zithromax and Levaquin.
Not a good idea. Do you really want to become resistant to something that can fight many different kinds of infections, sometimes almost exclusively?
And also remember your body has alot of healthy bacteria that helps metabolize different proteins in your body, If the antibiotic doesn't find something it can attack, what do you think it will go after? Yup healthy bacteria, do your research and think twice.
Badboy
Hello Thomaso,
Good point,
Best thing is to ask the managers, many girls don't talk about that stuff unless you ask them directly, It can kinda kill the mood talking about it, But as I have said, as far as I know high end clubs with high end clients do this in just about all the major cities in South America and Europe, my personal knowledge comes from Lima and Kiev because It's my families medical centers that have some of those contracts and I've been told its a common practice. Note I'm saying " High End " But its best to check with the managers, to reassure yourself. I believe if you go to Black or something of that caliber and ask the manager direclty, they will tell you their policy, I personaly wouldn't be going into any club that doesn't test their girls regularly. And if, as you say, its not common practice in BA, it needs to be and if I have a say it will be. And on my very first trip to Black, that will be my first question to the manager or girls even, I don't mind if it might make an awkward moment, I would rather have that awkward moment than another one. And very importantly I'm not saying this so anyone can go barebackin it anywhere, its a risk regardless of where or when or with whom, all I'm saying is if you work with high quality responsible clubs that take care of their clients and girls, then your chances are better at having a good Clean time.
Just my two cents.
Happy hunting.
Badboy
"second, the high end clubs most definetly test girls for everything once a month or once every two weeks,"
Absolute, complete, total, unadulterated horseshit.
"But its best to check with the managers, to reassure yourself."
Oh yeah, now that would definitely reassure me.
"I personaly wouldn't be going into any club that doesn't test their girls regularly"
No point in coming to BA, then.
"And if, as you say, its not common practice in BA, it needs to be and if I have a say it will be."
Yeah, well, you don't.
I guess I see now why they call you DICKHEAD, no need for the animosity man, I understand you have been in BA for probably a while, and know the lay out better than alot of people but that doesn't mean you are the end all and neither are your comments, or mine for that matter. So lets all be happy respectful punters here allright.
I will say again, if I am going to be moving to BA, and not just use it as a place to drop anchor every once in a while then it is important for ME to find a good clean reliable place. And if you really think mandatory testing for girls in high end top notch clubs where they will charge you $100-$200 US is something I dreamed up, or it's not happening allready or not going to be happening soon, you might want to rethink that, not only will it happen whether you or I like it or not, I think its in everyones best interests that it does.
But who cares, I'm going back to reading online reviews of hot chicks in BA that I would like to pipe.
Thanks for your comments Dick.
Happy Hoe Hunting.
Badboy
BB13,
A word to the wise, save up your comments, advise and proclamations until you get here. You are probably going to find that BA mongering is nothing like what you expected. You seem to think there is alot of "structure" to what goes on here (or should be) There's not, with the exception of every dog trying to have his / her day. Your idea of talking to club management about "testing" would, at best, get you laughed out of there. IMHO. In addition, the lack of structure here is what makes this board so necessary and popular.
There is absolutely, flat ass, positively no testing of the girls at managements' behest in any of the clubs in Buenos Aires. Period, end of story. No animosity involved but you are living in a dream world. Even in places where there is testing, like Mexico, number one the doctors can be bribed, and number two anyone with a "BS" in biology would know that the concept of an incubation period renders the testing meaningless in terms of providing any assurance of safety.
Rock Harders
07-07-06, 23:02
Badboy13-
You are correct in that in places like Amsterdam, Hamburg, Canada, and Nevada prostitutes are legal workers and are forced to abide by workplace standards which includes STD tests on a regular basis. Remember prostitution is LEGAL in those places and is REGULATED. In Argentina prostitution is NOT LEGAL and thus NOT REGULATED. Those governments have money and the desire to regulate these sorts of things. The government of Argentina has no way of forcing the girls working in the clubs to take STD tests because, technically, they have no idea that these girls are anything more than clients of the bar. Believe me from experience, ALL SORTS of illegal activity goes on in Buenos Aires and is ignored by the government, and when things go awry in that activity, do not expect the government to assist you. This is part of the "to let alone" unwritten contract the government has with its citizens, as in until something makes a big enough splash that a frenzy is created, the government allows the activity to continue (think Republica Cromagnon and the subsequent regulation on the Buenos Aires nightclub scene, which was 10x more out of control pre Cromagnon) The point is that unless there is a huge AIDS epidemic in Buenos Aires that sparks a public outcry to regulate the putas there will be no mandatory testing of girls in so called "high end" or any other clubs.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
Thomaso276
07-07-06, 23:05
BB13: Managers of clubs are not very reliable sources of information and will probably tell you what you want to hear. Good luck on changing the concept of the clubs here in BA. Maybe you could convince them to drop their drink prices as well.
This topic about STD's has come up again and again. It is a crapshoot, plain and simple. I pointed out once before that a test given today can be worthless after a date that night.
I envision this type of a conversation:
Know It All Monger From Wealthy Family That Owns Medical Clinics All Over The World (henceforth abbreviated as BB) upon entering "upscale, top notch" club such as Black or Oba Oba: "Excuse me, Mr. Manager, do you test your workers for STDs?"
Seventh Grade Drop Out Mafioso Manager Whose Father-In-Law Owns Club (henceforth abbreviated as Boludo): "Yes sir; whatever you say."
[Boludo to chica who speaks six more words of English than he does: "WTF is an STD?" Chica: I think it's a new energy drink you mix with vodka. Or it's Ecstasy mixed with cocaine.]
BB: "Great! Now I can spend 200 or 300 or 400 US Dollars! Thanks so much for the information!"
Boludo: [ROTFLHMFAO]
Later: BB meets "top notch, high end, upscale, executive level" prostitute (henceforth abbreviated as Ho) "Excuse me, I'd like to buy you a drink. When was your last STD test?"
Ho: "Five minutes ago mi amor. My place or yours?"
BB: "You are a true professional. I admire how you care for yourself, unlike a street girl who fucks 10 guys a day for fifty pesos and can't afford such testing, even though that equates to 10 x 50 x 365 = 182,500 pesos a year which is more than twice what the president of Argentina earns."
Ho: "Thank you so much for the compliment, sir. That will be 930 pesos, paid in advance, and I don't kiss on the lips or perform fellatio without a condom or really do much of anything except lie there since I am such an upscale escort."
BB: "Super! Here's 1000 pesos and my address. I'll go home and shower and put FarmEx all over my body and I hope to see you soon."
There is absolutely, flat ass, positively no testing of the girls at managements' behest in any of the clubs in Buenos Aires. Period, end of story. The concept of an incubation period renders the testing meaningless in terms of providing any assurance of safety.Thanks again for the comment Dick, I respect your opinoions, just as long as you understand thats what they are, your opinions, just like mine or anyone elses.
If you want to talk about incubation period then talk about it. You are right that it depends on the type of contact and route of infection, wether it was mucosal or through blood, and so on, and its true that a mucosal infection would take many weeks to start the seroconversion cycle. But you need to know that once the seroconversion process starts the H. I. V DNA can be isolated through HIV RNA AND PCR testing, thats polymerase chain reaction testing, so you need to understand the incubation period is more like 1 - 4 weeks depending on route of infection. It seems like alot of the information you are talkin about is very old. All internists know that not only can they catch HIV within weeks of infection, that it is possible, in some cases (within 24 hrs) to stop the virus from ever attacking CD4 cells, most comonly known as T-cells, with the use of a combination of PI's (protease inhibitors) and the latest NNRTI's and NRTI's, which is by no means a cure but it can block the infection before it has a chance to attach and replicate.
So that is why they test either once a month or twice, so it is a very effective method, not 100% , as nothing is, but very effective.
And it's not about structure, do you think there is real structure in the san fernando valley porn scene? Please, but they are doing voluntary testing so as to reduce the risk, not eliminate, but reduce, and take note that the last outbreak of HIV in the totally voluntary SFV porn scene was due to a guy from Evil Angel going to film in Brazil, and he came back and tested within days and the seroconversion hadn't started, so the test was negative, he tested two weeks later and the test caught the infection. In those two weeks he infected a handful of people, imagine if he wouldn't have retested for months? Yes Doc's can be bribed and I have heard that in Brazil it is common practice. But I don't think BA is Brazil, And note I am not talking about Elisa testing or the more commonly used western blot method. You say I'm dreaming, lets be realistic man, the reason SFV implemented voluntary testing was so the state government wouldn't make it a law, it will happen here to, and in my opinion the sooner the better.
But anyways DickHead, hope if anything, this was a little insightful and you are welcome to check out everything I have said.
Thank you for all your friendly comments, I have read some of your posts and find a few very informative, keep up the good work,
And to all you old school mongers, thanks for paving the way for the new school punters in BA, just don't think we are stepping on anyones toes, if we have opinions. I for one really appreciate all the helpful information I am getting from this website,.
Ok now back to checking the review, and since I have your attention DickHead, what can you tell me about Abigail from Platynum? I can't wait to have fun with that betty, have you been? Are the pics real?
Peace.
Badboy
Let's not get personal, I think talking about peoples families is crossing the line, Please refrain from mentioning my family. If you want to start the name calling then call me a know it all if you want but dont bring fam into it.
I am by no means a wealthy punter, like some on here profess, And my family is in the medical business, which I added because this is a medical related topic, and I had some insight on the topic, thats all, have some respect man.
And after reading your somewhat comical characterization of my fictitious conversation with some BA club owner, I can see that it was a little naive on my part to think I would get a straight answer from him or the betty.
It is still possible to find out about these things, and as I said in previous posts, it is common practice in some countries and in some clubs.
But I will have to figure out the scene for myself I guess, since all I'm getting is sarchasm on this thread.
If you have some first hand info on the questions I asked bro, let me know,
Happy Hoe Hunting.
BadBoy
Well after reading some of the more articulate and well intentioned comments, I think it's safe to say that BA is a little dirtier than I thought,
Well any helpful comments are allways appreciated, thanks for all the good info, I guess there is no such thing as a TOP NOTCH CLEAN club in BA.
Damn it back to plan B, get out the double wrap.
Badboy
Well after reading some of the more articulate and well intentioned comments, I think it's safe to say that BA is a little dirtier than I thought,
Well any helpful comments are allways appreciated, thanks for all the good info, I guess there is no such thing as a TOP NOTCH CLEAN club in BA.
Damn it back to plan be, get out the double wrap.
BadboyIs there a "clean club" anywhere?
Is there a "clean club" anywhere?Check out the YWCA.
There is absolutely, flat ass, positively no testing of the girls at managements' behest in any of the clubs in Buenos Aires. Period, end of story. No animosity involved but you are living in a dream world. Even in places where there is testing, like Mexico, number one the doctors can be bribed, and number two anyone with a "BS" in biology would know that the concept of an incubation period renders the testing meaningless in terms of providing any assurance of safety.Like it or not DH is 100% correct. Anyone else living in a the dream world that these girls are like the places in Las Vegas which even those tests can be paid for is just living in one big dream world. BA girls getting tested, I almost dropped my laptop on my floor I am laughing so hard.
The risk to anyones health is the girls that suck without or no condom by providing a BBBJ or even worst that wonderful BBBJTC or the best one yet BBBJTCWS.
Girls getting tested. OMFG. This thread is one funny thread.
Any girl that allows men to dump their loads into their mouths or any girls that drink those loads, I would think twice about doing any DATY with any of them, you might as well take the loads yourself.
Anything she has would be a serious risk at that point and I keep my lips sealed with any escort that provides that kind of a service such as anything bare back.
The risk to anyones health is the girls that suck without or no condom by providing a BBBJ or even worst that wonderful BBBJTC or the best one yet BBBJTCWS.
Girls getting tested. OMFG. This thread is one funny thread.
Any girl that allows men to dump their loads into their mouths or any girls that drink those loads, I would think twice about doing any DATY with any of them, you might as well take the loads yourself.
Anything she has would be a serious risk at that point and I keep my lips sealed with any escort that provides that kind of a service such as anything bare back.I play it super-safe and I have still had an occaisional "problem", these guys doing DATY & DFK e. T. C. Should play the %&#* lottery, they are the luckiest in the world if you can do that with some of these public toilet-grade girls out there.
Women are easier to catch an STD than men, but if you turn to their service frequently - it is not going to be a happy end.
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