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Guys.
I would like to do my report this trip through the writing styles of well known isg members. Stay tuned.
Greetings Gentleman,
Today I arrived in the wonderous city of Buenos Aires. I ascertained that the chicas were as beautiful as ever, and the exchange range rate favored the United States dollar. Things are looking up.
First, I checked into my hotel and received a nice slumber. Next, I contacted my argentina private aquaintances and arranged for a later meeting. In addition, I had a nice sample of helado and contacted the infamous jackass Moore for a face to face meeting. No I do not have a financial interest in El Alamo Moore so please shut the fuck up.
Tonight I will find myself in the company of my favorita from last trip. We will see how her demeanor and service compare to last visit.
Thanks,
Marak5
Although I am excited about reporting through the eyes of other posters, I had an interesting experience so I'll just write it normally.
Got in contact with my girl from last trip yesterday afternoon. At first she didnt believe I was in town so it took a little convincing, but eventually I said I would meet her at Solid Gold at 12 30.
Later in the afternoon I met up with Moore for a few drinks. Pretty interesting and funny guy.
So it gets to be about 11 30 and I had been meaning to check out Sodoma next to Medahos. I think the cover is about 30 pesos for 2 drinks. There is some ok talent in there but nothing special. I did find one chica that I found to be super hot so I called her over and had a few drinks with her. She was about 35 years old (perfect for me) and a round ghetto booty which I also loved. She was getting me really hot so I told her that I had to talk to someone in Solid Gold but that I would like to leave with her tonight so I will come back around 2 30 or so.
So I go to Solid Gold and see my chica. We embrace and take a seat. She seems happy to see me and I'm happy to see her. We always did hit it off so 2 hours or so flies by. Around 2 30 I tell her that I'm going to head back to my hotel to get some sleep because I'm really tired and sick. She doesnt really believe it but whatever not like she can stop me. We make a date for her to come to my hotel the next day around 6pm before she goes into work at Solid Gold since I told her that I can't afford to be taking her out of SG every night for multiple hours, its just out of my budget. So we agree to meet the next day.
I go back to my girl at Sodoma and man I'm really attracted to this girl. I'm getting really worked up just sitting there with her. Our chemistry isnt the greatest but it will definitely do since her body is smoking. We chat and have a few drinks and eventually head out to my hotel around 4 30. We agree to an average price for the Recoleta clubs for an hour.
We get back and the session starts ok. I took a viagra so I'm hard as a rock but when I take that stuff it takes me forever to finish since it makes me less sensitive down there. So shes going to town for awhile, we have sex for awhile, and she just asks why I'm not finishing and I tell her and she says she wants to see leche from me. So far her performance is great and she seems to be enjoying herself. Well, by this point about an hour goes by and I'm still hard and not finishing. Shes not really in a rush, but I say don't worry if you stay longer Ill compensate you. So shes really doing her best to try and get me to finish. We must have spent at least 2 hours together but it just wasnt meant to be. I must have given up at least 5 times but every time she pulled me back in and started giving me more bj. She must have sucked my dick for a solid hour in this session. The highlight of the session for me was when she put a condom on my finger and finger banged herself for like 15 minutes. I think being that she was 35 or so shes way more into sex than some younger girls. She really couldnt seem to get enough and was moaning like crazy. It was just one of those memorable sessions that was absolutely fantastic. I threw her an extra 150 pesos for the extra time.
So today I meet my chica outside my hotel at 6pm. In my mind, I am going to pay for her 50 peso cab ride from the provincias and her dinner and thats all. I guess she had other plans.
Our time spent together was great. We really do click, so we chatted at the streetside cafe for about 45 minutes. Next we came into my room and messed around for about an hour. The gfe that shes providing me is so great that I really have no reason to believe its not genuine. Just with all the tongue kissing and the intimate nature of our conversations, I'm not sure how I would see it any other way. We eventually go to dinner across the street and its rather romantic since its only 8pm and were the only 2 people in the restuarant. The whole time were stealing glances at each other and its really a great time for me.
She had arrived at 6pm, and at this point its about 9:15 and shes going to have to leave to get to Solid Gold pretty soon. She mentions something about money and at first I just kind of blow it off and I ask you want money for this? I'm like how much and shes like 400 usd? I'm just like yeah right and shes like yeah thats just a joke, ha ha. At this point the tension is starting to build as I come to the realization that she expects to get paid for this afternoon.
We awkwardly walk back to my room and shes trying to act like nothing is wrong. Eventually I ask how much do you want? And shes like well how much do you want to pay? I told her flat out that I don't want to be her boyfriend for money and shes like what you're my boyfriend now? I'm like well I wasnt expecting to pay anything I thought you and I were different. And shes like, well you pay other girls in cabarets for just sex, I came here and ate with you, talking with you for hours, and you don't want to pay me? So I guess it was all an act on her part, but she deserves some kind of award for actress of the year. I received more gfe from her that I ever got from a regular girlfriend so I was just kind of surprised that it must have been feigned. Shes like, well I could have gone to the casino with my friend and made money today. At this point, I'm kind of surprised but not really upset because I don't plan to give her a cent. She starts to get visibly upset once she realizes that I really had no intention of paying her for meeting her outside of solid gold and starts crying. She takes her bag and walks out and slams the door.
I really have no qualms with not paying her. If she was just playing me 100% , it didn't work. If shes able to act like she did with me and still be able to ask for a huge sum at the end, shes way more fucked up in the head that I thought. Half the reason I was spending time with her was not because I was specifically interested in fucking and having some sort of relationship with her, but just because she seemed to genuinely like me which seems to be rare with the pros in Bs As so I didnt want to pass up that kind of gfe. Anyway I'm really out nothing today since I didnt pay her. Good times.
Thomaso276
01-30-06, 08:50
Marak: First you overpay in your previous reports, then you don't give your favorite girlfriend a dime for the afternoon? The one who you mooned over on your last trip. The one you keep writing is so GFE, lovey dovey, etc. Why didn't you tell her upfront you were going to pay cab and dinner only?
Man you send out some strange signals.
I agree with Thomaso here. Why ask about money, and more importantly, why stiff her? Put an apporpriate amount of money in her purse. This girl provided a perfect GFE and you just took advantage of it.
If your ever going to over pay a Chica its your "Favorita". That's the girl that should get top dollar.
What Maraka5 doesn't realize is the girl has bills to pay. How she going to pay them without money. Thats why she's working as an escort. Wheather she like you or not its all about money.
Women no matter where they are in the world trade money for sex. Period. End of story. The most expensive sex is your wife or girl friend. The pussy you think your getting for free is in fact actually costing you a "Ton" if you factor in the all the expense, dinners, rent, cloths ect, ect.
My advise to you Maraka5 is to look her up and put 2 or 3 hundred peso's in her purse today as soon as you read this. I mean what the Hell are you talking about a hundred bucks. Nothing and you save the realationship.
Exon
You guys are very sweet to help him out. I figure he's going to be a lawyer so he doesn't deserve happiness.
MiddleAgeGuy
01-30-06, 18:22
Marak5,
It may be hard to fathom in the moment but truely you should pay something, even if no hanky-panky takes place. Her job is as an escort, GFE or not. She has told you why. You may be a friend to her, but it is an unwritten part of the deal.
I've known someone in BA for the better part of 3 years now, who is not in the business anymore, (maybe?) We are friends who are comfortable with each other, like to go out here and there, etc. And I still follow the unwritten rule; she needs the cash, helps the kids / her, and I like the company, with no requests / questions, etc. And she gets paid a hell of a lot better than my other brief acquaintances, even without performing at times due to one circumstance or another.
You'll just have to try to wrap your head around it.
Truely,
MAG
Damn. This fucking bs just never goes away.
Today at around 2pm I get a message on my phone in the hotel. Guess who it is? She says shes really sorry for last night and I need to call her right away and she leaves her phone number twice. I got screwed up with the directions on the phone so I accidentally deleted the message. So my options are: 1) go to Medahos tonight and bang the shit out of a hot ass chick or 2) go to Solid Gold and deal with some more fucking bs. I'm not really sure what to do. On one hand I see her point. If I am paying other various girls, why wouldn't I pay her when shes spending time with me outside the boliches and giving great gfe that I really don't get anywhere else? If on the other hand, we have a connection that is more than just sex for money then why do I need to pay? One thing I know for certain is that my tolerance for any fucking bs is pretty low.
One thing I also know for certain is that I'm not even going to bother reading the responses in this thread to my posts telling me what a naive sob I am.
Tbc.
One thing I also know for certain is that I'm not even going to bother reading the responses in this thread to my posts telling me what a naive sob I am.
Tbc.First of all, nobody called you a naive SOB.
Secondly, you should not post if you don't expect responses, be they "attaboys" or otherwise.
Why don't you just post the truth: that you got a freebie and are proud of yourself for getting it?
Ooops, there I go again, asking a question when you say you won't "bother reading the responses in this thread.";)
Or you could go shove a ten foot poll up your ass. That would be another option.
Somebody has fallen off the wagon again. Sober up and play nice, please.
Dickheads right. Seriously, he says it like it is. He's the only one on this board that makes any sense. I'm coming down to BA in March and will buy the first round.
PS.
This board was so damn boring while Dickhead as gone. Welcome back DH
F**king DH. Made me bust out laughing once again.
I think someone from argentina private is sending spies in on me.
I noticed Papy Benito in Solid Gold and he just so happened to make his way to directly behind me and could have been listening in on my conversation for all I know.
Anyway I went there because I want interested in what the girl had to say. I guess 400 usd was a joke, I was just kind of paranoid about the whole things. She really didnt want that much. She said 300 pesos that I offered would have been fine so I'm not sure where the argument exactly started. I am fine with paying her 300 pesos if shes with me in my hotel for 4 hours. The problem is, is that I'm telling her that I'm paying other girls in cabarets every night. And I was expecting her to come fuck me for free in my hotel before I went out at night to fuck other girls in the cabarets meanwhile telling her all the details. I told her that I would meet with her outside of solid gold if thats possible but she told me before she has to work there 6 nights a week so I thought that wasn't possible. I told her that I would prefer to meet her at night but just outside of Solid Gold. She said that I should have asked her before to do that, although she will have to lie to Solid Gold and say that shes sick. So shes going to do that tomorrow, and shes meeting me at my hotel at 9 and staying the night for a couple hundred pesos.
She was reasonable about the whole thing. Why should she fuck me for free when she knows I'm fucking multiple girls and paying them as soon as she leaves? If anything, I should have just kept my mouth shut from the beginning and not told her about the other chicas. Since yesterday I was really second guessing all the gfe that she was giving me, but I am certain now that it is more or less genuine. It's just not really possbile to fake that type of stuff to the level she is doing it. And if she didnt genuinely care, she wouldnt call off from work and come spend the night with me for the same amount she could make in a hour or two in Solid Gold.
After that post I made about yesterday I don't see any way an experienced monger would thing anything other than I'm totally getting used here, but I guess that is not the case.
IMHO, these are the possibilities:
1. Marak5 is not a monger, but a local producer of TV "novellas". He has an idea for a new novella entitled "Mongers: Why We Love Them, And Why We Hate Them". His recent posts here are only trial ballons as regards different scenarios / scripts for his proposed tv show. Maradona will be played by Dirk Diggler. Dickhead will be a "character actor" type who is always at the end of the bar trying to nail the bosomy barkeep. Exon123 is the narrator.
2. Marak5 is not only not a monger, but actually a chica. She has infiltrated the ArgentinaPrivate board with intent to slowly destroy it with mind numbing "stories" that look and feel like a car wreck. She is a "hot ass chick" as opposed to "cold ass chick".
Soon I will posting my trials and tribulations with pro and non pro chicas entitled, " I'm looking for attention, please give me some! Pleeeez!"
"If anything, I should have just kept my mouth shut from the beginning and not told her about the other chicas."
I believe this would be the dictionary definition of "duh."
Amantelondres
01-31-06, 14:26
There is a third possibility in that he might just be taking the piss out of all of us!
I've met him and he's pretty much just like his writing. Like many of us, he's not quite as bad in person as on paper. He's being an idiot about the chica but most of us have done the same at some point in our lives. His postings are all about his life rather than information useful to others but who doesn't like to watch a good train wreck?
I think he should at least give up her name and description so that a couple of the creepy old guys can bang her and hear her side of the story. That way PB wouldn't have to spy on him to get laid:-)
This is all too bizarre. Dude, you cannot be serious about this, can you?:
I think someone from argentina private is sending spies in on meAlso:
After that post I made about yesterday I don't see any way an experienced monger would thing anything other than I'm totally getting used here, but I guess that is not the caseMarak, after reading through this thread, it's very clear that experienced (and wise through that experience) mongers were just trying to give you a reality check. Also, nobody was ripping on you until your post today (which is by itself is odd since you announced you were not going to follow the thread. What is strange is that somehow you view yourself as "being used" if a working girl starts to like you but still wants compensation for her time. So OK, she likes you - great - she will cut you some slack - great. However, you will always need to pay her - whether that is direct cash, covering the rent, or groceries, or whatever. In fact, there is more than plenty of experiences on this board (and others) from which you will discover that if you are not careful, the more the chica likes / loves you the more creative the reasons and ways to pay her.
Zappaman
I've met him and he's pretty much just like his writing. Like many of us, he's not quite as bad in person as on paper. He's being an idiot about the chica but most of us have done the same at some point in our lives. His postings are all about his life rather than information useful to others but who doesn't like to watch a good train wreck?
I think he should at least give up her name and description so that a couple of the creepy old guys can bang her and hear her side of the story. That way PB wouldn't have to spy on him to get laid:-)How about semi creepy, semi old guys! I want a piece of that action too. Other than train wreck watching (gets old after the first 10 seconds) me fucking another hot assed chick! Would be one of the few good things to come out of this thread. All in good fun!
I'll admit it. I dispatched Papa Benito to give me an on-the-spot report. It appears he was caught. That's what I get for employing amateur spies. Next time I will dispatch the station chief from the embassy and Marak will be none the wiser.
PB, did she do CIM and A? You left that part out from your report. I need to know so that I will not be disappointed when I do her next week (I have to beat Exon down there, as he's lining up a visit to screw Marak's chica also.)
Well this just keeps getting better and better.
True to her word, my novia met me at my hotel around 9pm. We started walking towards Recoleta to eat but she told me that she really can't go anywhere near Solid Gold so we turned around and started walking back. A puta from Solid Gold just happened to walk by at that time but my girl said to not worry about it.
Next we went to dinner in Puerdo Maderno. We ate outside but the mosquitos were kind of bad. It was pretty romantic though.
After that we went to the casino. I won't 300 pesos in like 10 minutes on blackjack and she won 200 pesos in the slots so we left pretty happy. I have been coming down with some kind of flu though and all the smoke is the casino was fucking driving me nuts. I was really having a hard time breathing in there since I was sick anyway. At this point it was about 1am so we decided to head back to the hotel.
After awhile I started really feeling like shit. My lungs were actually hurting when I breated in so I kind of felt like it was starting to be something serious. My girl said that a hospital would be free for me so I should go there if I feel bad enough. I had never really experienced any problems in my lungs before so I thought it might be a good idea just to play it safe. So we took a taxi there and sure enough it was free. The doctor said my lungs sounded ok and that it is common for this type of flu to occur in Buenos Aires around this time of year.
So we go back to the hotel and have sex for awhile. About 3 30 my novia gets a call on her cell phone. Its a girl from Solid Gold and she says that all the chicas there are saying that they saw her in Recoleta with an ******. This is bad because she says that if shes caught she will get the boot from Solid Gold. Her friend tells her that shes going to lie and say that my novia is on vacation. I told her thats a bad idea and she should just stick to the original story that she is sick. After all, its unlikely that multiple girls from SG are spending a lot of time hanging out in Recoleta anyway. So I thought it would be better to just stick to the original lie rather than making up more bullshit which would just be more difficult to get herself out of. I feel terribly guilty about this, because here I have been giving this girl all this shit about me not paying and not wanting to see her in Solid Gold. And theres a good chance that I would be kind of personally responsible for hardship in this girls life. This really is just a vacation for me and I have absolutely nothing vested in her once I leave Bs As, but this is her life and main source of income.
She left at about 4am and shes meeting me tomorrow again at 9 outside my hotel. I noticed that I am improving at the girlfriend for money thing. I just slipped it in her purse, and I made sure she saw it so she wouldnt ask me for money as she was leaving. And it was better I think for us just not to discuss the money transaction.
This the most boring fucking novella I have ever read. Marak5, I don't know you, so without personal knowledge and always IMHO, but why would you think others would be interested in this? Plus, if you are really interested in constructive feedback, pick out 1 or 2 mongers who have not slammed you (or actually been supportive) and pm them your exploits. You will get better advise from people who are sympathetic to you, and the rest of us will feel better that the forum is not being cluttered up with long winded monologues.
That being said, if you continue to post this stuff here, rather than going the pm route, THEN it will be clear that you are only taking your clothes off in public for attention, and attention alone. Marak5, do not act like a woman. Put your fucking clothes on and call on your friends and supporters. Leave the rest of us alone.
Thomaso276
02-01-06, 19:24
Doggboy: I understand your position but I think you missed the bigger picture.
I read every one of Marak5 posts for a lesson on WHAT NOT TO DO IN BA.
I am reminded of the Seinfeld show wherein George decided to make the opposite decision of his first impulse. His life completely turned around.
I recommend that every newbie study these reports extensively. There will be a test next week.
Even the experienced among us should read them for continuing education points. During my career I had to meet certain standards and then every 6 months re-qualify. Many of the training sessions were boring but once in a while a new gem of information would be discovered. As well, these certification programs allowed you to see if you had developed bad habits, despite knowing better.
Even Brett Farve has a quarteback coach (where the hell was he this year?
Marak5 should have written: "Don't do what I do AND don't do what I say" at the beginning and end of each of his posts.
Later. Tom
Tom,
I hear you, besides, I've said my piece.
Suerte
Well I really do not think I could ever date an American girl again in my life. I don't know if it's just because this girl grew up poor in the provincias or what, but she's absolutely one of the most affectionate people I've ever met in my entire life. From 10pm-4am, outside of time spent seperated at dinner and at the bar, there wasn't 2 minutes that went by which she wasn't rubbing my arm or leg, hugging me, kissing me, playing with my fingers, etc.
She came to my hotel at about 10pm and we chatted for awhile. She hadn't heard from Solid Gold but she said that if she has problems there they would most likely just tell her that she's not allowed to work when she shows up Friday or Saturday.
We decided to go to dinner in Las Canitas. It was the first time I had been there but I liked it. A lot of the restaurants were packed with huge lines and tons of people waiting outside so we walked down to one at the end of the strip. The food was ok, but we had wine, water, 2 dinners, and desert, and the bill came to 93 pesos. Can't beat that.
After that we went to one of the bars in the area. Most are kind of chic and we kind of get a lot of looks when were walking around so we decided on one that had a lot of foreigners. What I mean by us getting a lot of looks is that I'm pretty sure its obvious that shes a prostitute. Heres me, blatantly American, and her, darker skin and not really dressed too much like any of the regular Argentine girls - so its pretty obvious. The waitress at dinner was definitely giving us some looks.
Afterwards we came back to the hotel and had sex. Can't complain in that department. After awhile the whole paying thing was kind of bothering me again so I brought it up. She said she would prefer not to talk about it but I persisted. Really my main question was. I understand that she could be working in Solid Gold at night, but rather shes with me outside of it, so its pretty much only fair for me to compensate her for her time. So I said that I understand that I should pay and I am ok with that. But I asked her, is her time with me just better than Solid Gold, or would she spend her own time with me if she had a day job and she had nights free. She said look, its not my job when I call you when I get home, its not my job to go to the hospital with you, I might have serious problems with Solid Gold because I'm seeing you outside of it, so yes if I was working a day job and you were in Argentina, we would be friends and we would hang out with no money involved. So I did feel a little bit better after she said that. We already have tomorrow planned out and shes going to come early and come with me to the airport again on Friday. I will definitely be depressed when I return.
This is my fourth visit to Buenos Aires this year but I feel like I am becoming a bit more intimate with the city this time around. One thing I noticed is that the guys are kind of gay and neurotic. I was listening to this guy and dinner talking and hes going on and on and on about how ugly he is, how he needs to pay chicas, and how no one in his life likes him. He seemed like a pretty normal looking guy so it was kind of funny. I had heard that this city has a huge population of therapists and everyone is in therapy. The guys also blab to each other in bars and cafes like women, they are so chatty. Definitely way different than the USA. If anything, I feel like I fit right in with these guys. I have a long term therapist, I have intimate relationships with men and I blabber on with guy friends all the time.
Also a great thing is that there are tons of Milfs. I can go a period of weeks or even months in Chicago without seeing a bonified milf, but so many of the older women here are very attractive.
I also read in this book about Buenos Aires, that someone said (and they were saying this in like the 1800s) that Bs As itself was kind of shitty, there was shit in the streets, yet the people are very arrogant. I kind of notice that to be true. Maybe its just because I'm spending my time in Recoleta and places like Las Canitas, but Argentina itself is not that nice. The government is completely incompetent. Its a very poor country. Yet the Argentina people are some of the most arrogant that you will come across. Personally I don't find it offensive and I havent really run into any problems, but just the way these people walk around in Recoleta is kind of funny.
Also I think all other reports than mine in this thread should be deleted. I'm not even reading them, but I can only imagine what someone like Easy Go is saying about this.
Lates.
Full Throttle
02-02-06, 12:42
For the record, I kinda' liked the most recent post. If you don't want to read the whole thing, the interesting points were:
1. He's dating a professional girl, pays her because she would be earning money otherwise, but has been assured that, were she not a prostitute, she would be seeing him for free. This sounds crazy, but it makes some sense.
2. Argentinians are arrogant in spite of themselves.
3. Argentine men "blabber" among themselves like women.
4. Psychology is a big industry, as MANY Argentines have therapists.
5. There are a lot of Milf's, whatever that is.
I'm not really being a smartass. There are some provacative points.
FT
Rock Harders
02-02-06, 13:31
FT-
MILF is an acronym for Mother I'd Like to Fuck. Marak5 is 100% accurate in that Argentina is the MILF capital of the world- the number of smoking hot woman walking down Avenida Santa Fe with young children, and even pregnant woman that are still smokin hot, is truly astounding. Argentine woman do not go to shit after childbirth as woman from the United States often do. In the US, MILF's are so special because let's face it, there are so few of them. Take a walk in the nicer areas of Buenos Aires, and it will become obvious that MILF's are clearly in abundance. Argentina should export them as one of their surplus commodities along with beef and soybeans. Also, many of the Putas of Buenos Aires qualify as MILF's, since most have kids and you are banging them.
Suerte,
Dirk
For the record, I kinda' liked the most recent post. If you don't want to read the whole thing, the interesting points were:
1. He's dating a professional girl, pays her because she would be earning money otherwise, but has been assured that, were she not a prostitute, she would be seeing him for free. This sounds crazy, but it makes some sense.
2. Argentinians are arrogant in spite of themselves.
3. Argentine men "blabber" among themselves like women.
4. Psychology is a big industry, as MANY Argentines have therapists.
5. There are a lot of Milf's, whatever that is.1. And if I wasn't paying chicas to screw, I'd be screwing for free. Of course, I'd have to put up with all the boyfriend BS. Please recall that many of us aren't paying for sex, we're paying for the woman to leave afterwards. (Some of us have no other option than to pay for sex, I am sure. But of the mongers from this board that I've met, I'd say this figure is only about 10%.)
2.-3.-4. Yes, Buenos Aires has more psychiatrists and psychoanalysts per capita than any other major city in the world. Maybe that has something to do with the reasons for these points.
5. MILF: Mother I'd Like to Fuck
Argentine woman do not go to shit after childbirth as woman from the United States often do. In the US, MILF's are so special because let's face it, there are so few of them. US women don't go to shit until after childbirth? You mean their own birth, right?
Jaimito Cartero
02-02-06, 18:07
Its a very poor country. While Argentina is poor, I think you need to look at some neighboring countries to see real poverty. I know that last year in my travels to Lima and some parts of Asia they would kill to have the poverty in BA.
One thing I noticed is that the guys are kind of gay and neurotic. I was listening to this guy and dinner talking and hes going on and on and on about how ugly he is, how he needs to pay chicas, and how no one in his life likes him. He seemed like a pretty normal looking guy so it was kind of funny. I had heard that this city has a huge population of therapists and everyone is in therapy. The guys also blab to each other in bars and cafes like women, they are so chatty. Definitely way different than the USA. If anything, I feel like I fit right in with these guys. I have a long term therapist, I have intimate relationships with men and I blabber on with guy friends all the time.
[snip]
I also read in this book about Buenos Aires, that someone said (and they were saying this in like the 1800s) that Bs As itself was kind of shitty, there was shit in the streets, yet the people are very arrogant. I kind of notice that to be true. Maybe its just because I'm spending my time in Recoleta and places like Las Canitas, but Argentina itself is not that nice. The government is completely incompetent. Its a very poor country. Yet the Argentina people are some of the most arrogant that you will come across. Personally I don't find it offensive and I havent really run into any problems, but just the way these people walk around in Recoleta is kind of funny.1) SOME guys are neurotic, but not "guys" in general. What is true is that Porteņos are among the top consumers of "shrink services" in the World, specially from middle class, but not EVERYONE is in therapy.
2) Yes, BA wasn't a real city until 1890 or such (was half a village, half a city) but the problems it faced by then weren't that different from those of NYC or Montreal, where epidemics wreak havok on the slums due to poor hygienic conditions.
3) Many porteņos are arrogant, that's true. Perhaps, most of them.
4) "Argentina itself" (understanding that by Argentina less Recoleta and Las Caņitas) is much nicer that these neighborhoods, In fact, most tourists come to see the Iguazú waterfalls, the Perito Moreno Glaciar and other gorgeous landscapes and provincial lifestyles (Ichigualasto, Humahuaca, Mendoza, etc)
5) The current government may have some inefficiencies, but is far from being "completely incompetent". How many governments from poor countries can raise USD 10 Billion and pay all at once their foreign dent to the IMF?
Andres
I hate to step into the fray. But dude, you need to step away from this girl! You've got a "Stage 5 Clinger" on your hands. This relationship was screwed from the start because you both did not discuss expectations. Now, you both are still confused about the sex for money thing, but seem to like one another. Subsequently, you've encountered a lifetime of drama in the few weeks you've spent with her. There's a S-load of beautiful chicas willing to fuck you for a small fee. Don't get caught up on this one.
Suerte,
Judd
Ok.
The only reason I am talking shit to easy go is because that guy has been following my posts on this board around. Obviously I have been to Rio and Bs As 4 times and been reading isg all the time, I know chica lies and games but for some reason this guy thinks that because I am young he has to tell me the deal. I havent had 1 problem using my credit card in Bs As and this guy is like, ha ha, never do that, ha ha, but whatever.
I am back in the USA now and it is sickening. Getting into the airplane with all the fat Americans really made me super depressed. I literally had a scowl on my face looking at them. Flying back into ohare was even worse. In Bs As, every 1 out of 2 girls is hot, I counted in ohare airport I saw maybe 3 attractive girls in the whole damn place. Then walking back to my apt, man is it fucking depressing. I don't even really do that bad with the girls in the USA but I am just so much happier being around all the babes all the time.
All I want to do is speak spanish. I was speaking spanish for like 6 hours a night with my chica and by the end I was making marked improvements. Now I'm back and leaving messages for all my friends in spanish and its not funny for them. At least my spanish teacher here is from argentina but she said she won't give me lessons if I tell her about the cabarets.
Ill post the conclusion to my chica saga. With pics forthcoming.
Marak,
You feel that way after leaving the USA for a few days. Imagine what its like to return there after 6 -12 months in Argentina. The female situation in USA is like the economic situation in Haiti. One forgets how incredibly impoverished the place is until he actually visits again (and gets the hell out asap).
As in Haiti, there is a miniscule minority of "elite" in the USA - fairly attractive, sexy women that is. I generally see about 3 during a 10day visit there, whereas I often see 5 in 2 mintues just crossing the street in BA. The other 99% there is like a sewer. And Im only going by appearance - DO NOT try talking to them or even looking at them, unless maybe you're Brett Favre:p. The demand and competition for the this paltry 1% from 150M deprived US guys is rather high as one might imagine. And the elite are very arrogant as a result - can you blame them? So as a member of the 99% commonfolk you usually have to settle for digging your dinner out of the garbagedump and be grateful you got that.
And my 1% figure is not an exagerration when talking about the total population. The ASU campus or the new hires at the Dallas Ernst&Young office are not the general population. Walmart and the post office are. How may hot chicas do you see, and maybe chat up, while waiting in line to renew your drivers license. Come to think of it 0.1% is a better estimate.
I cant imagine how a native argentino like Andres copes living there.
Moore.
I agree. I just could not believe it upon returning. For me, even the non attractive ladies are nice to look at in Bs As. They may not all be "hot," but they at least nice to look at. Even the women in their 50s and 60s are pleasnat. In Chicago that age range is just down right scary. Well here is the last night of my report.
Thursday we met and I was kind of sad as it was our last night. Meeting with her was like meeting with any regular girlfriend I've had in the USA but way better. I had all the same feelings, the same anticipation seeing her, and pretty much the 6 or 7 hours we'd spend together would seem like about 5 minutes to me. We made each other laugh the whole time and talked about everything and nothing. She told me a lot about her life, and it seemed kind of sad. Messing around with johns for a living does not seem like fun. Just when I was there, some Mexican dude was calling her like 6 times a day asking where she was and bringing her presents into Solid Gold. I also told her about some chicas who I thought were doing drugs in the bathroom, but she told me that sometimes chicas will sit in the bathroom for like 10 minutes just to cut the session shorter for the guy.
We went to eat in Palermo Hollywood. We found a restaurant that had just opened that day and it was pretty dead. But she said that the 2 girls sitting inside were famous Argentine movie stars. Later we went dancing at Niceto in Palermo but I wasnt feeling that good so we stayed until about 2 30. After that we just walked around in Palermo awhile before heading back to Recoleta after awhile and walked around some more.
After that we went into my hotel. At around 4 30 she got a call and suddenly had a very worried look on her face. It was a friend of hers, a cab driver, and he said someone from Solid Gold saw her walking around in the streets with me. He said someone from Solid Gold might be coming to look and see her to confirm it so its best for her to leave right away. So her and I rushed downstairs and ran around the corner to get out of view of the hotel, and her friend came and whisked her away about 2 minutes later.
I talked to her at noon the next day and she said she would meet me at my hotel at 6 30 to come with me to the airport. But 6:30 rolled around and she didn't show, so I called her and she was really upset. "Mike, tengo muchas problemas." She was definitely busted with solid gold. She told me that she was going to have to pay all the drinks from all the nights she missed, but I guess at least she wasn't fired out right. She said that she couldnt come with me to the airport and had to go to Solid Gold early that night, but I said I would try to call her from the states. I tried calling a couple times, but it wouldnt connect from my cell phone, and when I dial her number through a calling card, a fax machine answers. That was the number I was calling her from Argentina so I know it's right, so I'm gonna try to get my teacher to help me out with it. I might send her the money for the drinks since I was totally the one pressuring her into meeting me outside of Solid Gold.
I was using a disposable camera so this is really the only nice picture that came out, I was hoping for more. If you're ever in Solid Gold ask to talk to her (Maggie) from what she told me YMMV with her sessions as she pulls a lot of tricks with guys, but shes really fun to at least have a drink with.
Hey pal,
That is all find and dandy. Your lovely date and all, as long as you do not fall for these w. Remember what she is and what she will always be. Have a good time, but never ever fall for any of them. They are looking for the easy life.
PERSONNALLY IF I GO OUT IN PUBLIC WITH THEM, IT IS TO FIND ANOTHER HOOKER, FOR A TRESOME.
Good luck,
Fellow dog
I can't imagine how a native argentino like Andres copes living there.Well. Money rules. I can make MUCH more here than what I used to make at BA, at a more pleasant working environment, doing what I like and devoting a very reasonable amount of hours per week. I guess that other argentinos appreciate that.
Without revealing my exact location, I can say that I enjoy a university hub, with lots of young female students and LOTS of lonely immigrant women, so the non-pro scene is rather acceptable. Of course, P4P sucks (that's why I continue lurking here) but nothing is perfect, isn't it?
Andres
Alright, this is the last report for me. I talked to her on the phone and shes most likely getting the boot from Solid Gold. She asked me if I'd support her for a few weeks. Just kidding! I'm not gonna send her anything. They told her, 4 or 5 nights no work and after that they would talk with her. They are pissed though. Oh well.
All in all, I would have definitely had a better time if I just trusted my instinct rather than always thinking about what people on argentina private or isg.info would say. Going in, I was ok with paying her. There are plenty of guys in Argentina so shes not dating foreigners with little spanish for no reason. It just took me a minute to wrap my head around the fact that the girl liked me but also wanted money at the same time.
She told me, she wouldn't even consider that I wouldn't pay her, regardless if she likes me or not. After working as a hooker for a year, really all she sees in guys is a money sign and she was completely forthcoming in saying that. She says its a problem, when she talks to guys, all she thinks is "how much you pay for me?" She does want to get out of it, but I think the money is just too good and it's unlikely that she will anytime soon. She bought a house, she wants to buy a car, she buys things for her whole family. I hope things work out for her in Solid Gold. It is a more family type atmosphere for the girls and they provide better security for them. She said she could work in Shampoo but they don't watch over the girls that close and a lot of the girls use drugs and steal she said. She said she also worked in Madahos for 2 nights but didn't care for it.
In conclusion, a rather dramatic week for me but I had fun.
I coincidentally was in Solid Gold on a night he was there. In a 'Post', Marak5 accused of spying on him. He felt I was sent to the club by the leaders of the AMA. I sent him a 'Private message' denying his accusation.Your denial is a damn lie. I sent you in there, and you screwed it up totally by letting your identity be known.:mad:
Quote-Marak 5 said:
Pappa bennie.
This is from awhile ago, but I am pretty sure you are full of shit. You hadnt been in Solid Gold for a year - yet you just happen to show up the week that dramatic reports from that very bar are happening on this site?
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I will avoid a full diagnosis, however will point out "dramatic reports". Does anybody remember those? All I remember were long, boring, narcissistic dispatches from weirdo land.
Remember how good the Pussy was from your wife was before you were married and before her Divorce attorney nailed your Ass to the Cross and took everything You ever owned or worked for.
Well thats how good Fucking Little Marsol from Hook was Thursday night. It was so good I went back for seconds Friday night.
He, He, He.
Exon
You are a nasty boy, Exon. You should be ashamed of yourself. Weren't you ever taught that excessives and obsessions are corrupting.
Just ask our current President (and unfortunately our last as well)
Suerte,
Stowe
Well, just talked to her today. This is what, April now, and we are still in touch. Hadn't really emailed for a while. This is really the first time I had called since a couple days after I came home. But she was happy to hear from me and it was nice to speak to her. She's so fucking jealous though, which I don't understand. I am fine with her fucking a different guy every night, but she's already asking me if I'll be with her every night next time I am there. She remembered my birthday which is coming up next week.
I kind of wanted to warn her though. With her name and picture on this site, I wouldn't put it past one of you motherfuckers to go in there and try to ruin it for me. So I just said if any old man comes in there to say weird things about me, it's all bullshit. If you think I am paraoid, a similar thing happened to exec talent on the rio de janeiro board with people from this site, so I just wanted to play it safe.
She was kicked out of Solid Gold until just like 10 days ago, which I guess sucked for her. I think she wanted me to send money at first, and was upset for a bit when I told her I wasn't going to. Honestly if I was some rich ass guy I would have sent her some cash for the time she wasn't working. It was mostly my idea for us to start meeting outside of solid gold, so it only would have been fair. I just honestly didn't have the money to send.
I wouldn't say we were in love, but this whole experience did open my eyes quite a bit. First of all, she's like 27, so since we did have such a strong connection I'm not really surprised that neither of us has moved on as of yet. Dealing with her and the 19 year old girls in the cabaret is quite a different experience. The main thing though is that I guess you can find that type of connection in the strangest of places. I know most likely in the long run that her and I won't be together, but who knows. She says she still thinks about me all the time, and I do think about her although it has faded somewhat since I haven't seen her for a couple months. But I have to think, are those guys in the cabarets so bad? I mean she told me I was only the 2nd person from solid gold that she ever had feelings for. But after reading how most of the guys on this site behave, I believe it. Also I plan to live in Argentina and she's getting up there in years. Stranger things have definitely happened.
I'll keep you all updated since you seem to love this thread so much.
I'll Fuck her for you Marak5
Just send me what ever you've been paying her, (Which You've posted is nothing) and Old Exon will take one for the team, (waste an Orgasm, that is)
Then I'll post some snap shots of her for our brothers to "Wack Off" over, That is if she's cute.
Exon
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