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This is a brand new place that was supposed to open in April and has only been open for about 3 weeks now. The chief waiter is Bobby, who has lived in the states and has excellent English and who used to work at Madahos. A number of girls who used to work at Madahos came over to this new place with him, including a good friend of mine who invited me to come over and see the new place. It's new and glitzy with a stage and floor show, but on a much smaller scale than Madahos. It is expensive as was indicated, with 40 pesos entrance and 60 pesos for a drink for the girl. On Friday night there were several attractive girls, including one who was quite beautiful who went off with the friend who accompanied me. The girls are looking for 250-300, much in the same model as Madahos. We were waved in without a cover. It is not a mean-spirited place or rip off like Rouge or Hellas, but is expensive and they are really in the beginning of their operation.
Ask to talk to Bobby when you come in if you have questions or concerns. I would hope that those with experience with the girls and the operation would report. If you are a Madaho's kind of guy it may fit or it may not. It wants to be a better version of that type of place and time will tell.
Barney Lobo
11-06-06, 01:09
Where is La Lopez located?
Where is La Lopez located?Vicente Lopez across from the cemetery. Alotta sparkle and not much else so far.
Well definetely seems to me that most members agree that on the upscale level n.1 is still the Madaho, Black second.
Third? Fourth?
Any details available? Will the monger post about it?
Not sure if he remember what happened. I hung out with him during the night it happened which was Thanksgiving. We we're both hitting the bottle pretty hard that night. We left the triangle, and got dropped off in the Recoleta Village. Oh, I forgot too mention he was asked to leave one of triangle clubs for dancing on the stage. As we're walking toward Madahos, a tout waived us over to this place. Bobby was out front working the crowd. At that point, I told our compadre that I was heading to Madahos, and would catch up to him later. That's when it all went down.
I retrospect, I should've stuck with our buddy. Unfortunately, when we only see dudes once or twice a year, it's hard too ascertain what state of drunkeness a person is in. We we're both fairly heated, but e was still coherant. I'm not sure what someone would do to deserve getting beat up in what's suppose to be a high end club. My guess would be something happened with one of the chicas, but that just pure speculation. The situation could've probably been avoided if someone was there to help diffuse the altercation.
Sorry I wasn't there to help you bro,
Judd
We really need to know the whole story on this, if the monger is not at fault, anyway. Bouncers do have a job to do. If I don't hear something from the monger's point of view, I'm going to have to assume the bouncer did nothing wrong. Hopefully the injured party emerges and gives his account.
Unfortunately, I don't have much time since Í need to meet someone in a few minutes. Bobby said the guy came in kinda drunk. He also said he knew the guy from his waitering days at Madahos and had a propensity to get drunk. Everything was cool as our guy was having a good time dancing and mingling with the chicas. The problem came when the bill came. He ordered and consumed at least 3 call drinks as well as bought a couple of drinks for the chicas. All the guy had was 45 pesos to his name. Obviously this wasn't enough. Bobby said there still wouldn't have been a problem cuz he knows the guy and was willing to work out something with him. Maybe come in the following day to pay. However, the guy became beligerent and threw the money at either the bar or the bartender. At that point, he was constrained and thrown out of the club. Bobby adamantly stated they did not strike him at anytime.
There was also two other guys who entered the club with our guy. Bobby said those guys were throughly embarassed by their friends actions. We really need to get a description of what happened from those dudes. Bobby was really disappointed in the guy's actions. He wants to run a clean, friendly club, but said the guy was disrespectful so he was thrown out.
Everything is hearsay right now until we hear from those who were at the club when this all went down.
Judd
Thank you Judd, for helping to clarify the situation. Frankly, I believe Bobby, and am willing to hear from others who were there.
Being beaten and being thrown out are two completely different things.
I hope that the monger in question will post his experience here. Perhaps Papa Benito, who apparently knows him, can convince him to do so.
Two questions.
1. Did this person go into this place and run up a 300-400 peso tab with only 45 pesos in his pocket?
2. Did he, when confronted by the bouncer, pull a knife on the bouncer? Supposedly the chicas he was with all scattered when they clearly saw the knife.
Stoker Star
12-05-06, 01:00
Thought I was doing great. Picked up a very attractive Chilean gal at the area outside Macdonalds in Recoletca. Then got carried to her work place.
A new twist to touts, no handouts no cards just "Before we go to your place let me show you were I work."
Thought the club looked nicer than others. Pricey. Wanted 50 peos for her drink and 40 for mine.
A girl at Mahodos told me her drink would cost me 70 peos. Told her if I wanted a whole bottle that would be fair. She did not appreciate the humor and left me and I left for a place I felt more comfortable.
Really liked the decoration at La Lopez but only about 5 chicas and 2 customers on Monday night. I did not pick-up, bartender makes great cocktails!
Member #4112
01-10-07, 18:45
Tuesday night was my first time in La Lopez and found it a little small but very interestingly decorated. Met a chica named Paula, spoke pretty good English, pretty face, a great attitude and a fair body. Started at 450 pesos but quickly came down to 300 for 1 ½ hours. Great GFE, what her body lacked her attitude and service more than made up for. She was no clock watcher and stayed for almost 3 hours. I would recommend this young lady.
Was in here again last night with Jackson and some other folks. Saw the show with two chicks upstairs lathering each other up, that wasn't too bad. Some decent looking girls, and I talked to a couple, generally the girls here seem pretty nice and not too pushy. I got interested in one sitting next to me, who Jackson recommended. If I remember her name correctly it was Julieta. She's kind of tall, aged 27, she said she had 3 kids, but she pulled up her shirt to show her stomach and I wouldn't have been able to tell. She was nice, but she quoted me 600 pesos, assuring me that her service was worth it. I assured her I could only pay 300 pesos, but she wouldn't budge, so I assured her I was leaving and going to Madahos.
La Lopez is getting better and better. More great looking girls and I have taken out numerous girls for 300 pesos. They often start higher but have all settled for 300. Music is good. Show is good and owners are on site and interested in running a great club. It is my new favorite spot over Madahos.
Well, I thought it was a pretty good club too initially. Better drink prices, nice decore, a decent selection of chicas, friendly English speaking staff, and no drink cover. Unfortunately, they now religiously try to steal from you there when you pay your tab, adding a 60 peso surchage to even a small bill, like the one I had last night for $120.00 ARS.
When I refused to pay I was ordered to talk to the bartender who gave some bullshit explanation about how the chica ordered a "long drink", a Corona beer, which is supposedly more expensive. I told the bartender that Corona is shit beer and that she either lied to me initially about chica drink prices, or that she is now trying to rip me off, and that I'm not paying the difference.
Then, the bartender tried to blame the chica for everything, but I made it pretty clear that I wasn't buying any of that and that I would be spreading news about this little fraud attempt.
Walked out of there pissed, without paying the difference, without paying a tip, and without collecting my chica who was in the back changing into street clothes for our departure. In retrospect, the same thing happened to me there several nights ago on a $450.00 ARS tab, only until last night I assumed that I had made a mistake.
Never going back there again.
Daddy Rulz
02-20-07, 17:05
I just don't understand their thinking. They build a good club get some good business and then start this kind of crap. I'm all for capitalism but this shit gets old.
Member #3314
02-20-07, 21:40
I had an issue in here also about a week ago. I talked my way in for free, no 40 peso cover. It was late in the evening, about 4 am.
I ordered my drink from the very nice english speaking bartender and started to get chicas approaching me. I paid cash for my one drink and did not run a tab.
I found one I liked. When I was negotiating she said that she needed her boss's approval to go with me for less that 300 peso's. The girl spoke english and told me that she was an english teacher during the day. So I told her that I would not go with any girl that had to ask her pimp for permission first and sent her away.
I turned down about 5 other chicas, and found another one I liked same thing from her. I got the hell out of there the whole thing seemed fishy to me.
There was some cute chica's in there, its a shame that its so fucked up.
Gauntlet77
02-20-07, 22:46
Just wanted to let you know that it is possible that there was no surcharge involved for a full bottle of Corona for a chica.
I was there a little over a week ago spending some time with a robust Dominicana who liked to dance close and dirty. Like any self respecting Dominicana chica she liked beer. We spent a lot of time dancing and making out and I figured she had earned another beer. But she had worked up a thirst and I thought I would ask for a larger serving than the usual thimble (I would guess about 2.5oz) I talked to Bobby, the manager, and told him I didn't mind paying the 60 pesos but for the money I wanted the girl to get a real bottle of beer. He said sorry but if I wanted a bigger serving it would be an additional 60 pesos. Them's the rules!
So I think that a real bottle of Corona for a chica is truly 120 pesos. No fraud involved. Just bad pricing policy.
So I think that a real bottle of Corona for a chica is truly 120 pesos. No fraud involved. Just bad pricing policy.Interesting. That is a bad policy, when you consider that no other club charges extra for a can or bottle of beer. They should tell you that when you inquire about chica drink prices.
Daddy Rulz
02-22-07, 04:29
Interesting. That is a bad policy, when you consider that no other club charges extra for a can or bottle of beer. They should tell you that when you inquire about chica drink prices.It just reafirms my desicion to not hunt in La Recolleta until Exon kicks the bucket and I inherit the big bucks.
Now what did I do with my pistol.
WorldTravel69
02-22-07, 05:30
On March 1st all parties concerned should meet at Exedra and figure this whole thing out. I am a little confused, do I listen to Daddy or Exon? Or some ones else's opinions, maybe's Jackson's or Capt Dsve's? Say 10 pm? Or we can move on to somewhere else such as the l'Aliance, to have dinner and talk about this Problem?
Also, Clubs, etc. 921 Suipacha? What's her Name Rubi?
Carry The Pistol! Save the Bullets!
And also if La Lopez is so great, show me the way! If not, there is no reason why we should leave the Retiro Area?
Oh, but I do miss Danise at the Mansion.
It just reafirms my desicion to not hunt in La Recolleta until Exon kicks the bucket and I inherit the big bucks.
Now what did I do with my pistol.
I am a little confused, do I listen to Daddy or Exon? Or some ones else's opinions, maybe's Jackson's or Capt Dave's?You can always count on me for an opinion, whether I have one or not!
Oh, but I do miss Danise at the Mansion.You have no one to blame for this but yourself! She has been sitting shiva in front of the mansion since you told her you would marry her and have her babies!
:)
David
Weeks ago, others and I reco'd to avoid. Why bother?Some thoughts on La Lopez:
Sidney, last year you claimed a fellow monger was beaten in this place, but subsequently neither you nor he posted any details of this experience. Judd did post something, admittedly second-hand, which contradicted your claim.
Subsequently, we see that Jackson, of all people, was frequenting this establishment. I seriously doubt Jackson would be going to the place if they had a propensity to beat the patrons.
Nemesis has never been noted as being a useful source of info, so his complaining about this place is at best suspect.
Capt Dave's opinions are generally spot-on. I'd like to read a review of the place from him. Sidney also has done some excellent reporting, though not much lately. Have you actually been to this place, Sidney, or are you just repeating what this mysterious supposedly-beaten patron told you?
Let me emphasize that I can't speak to any of this personally because I have never been to the place - but so far the jury is out for this reader.
Daddy Rulz
02-22-07, 14:39
It's a nice club with some really good looking Recoletta type chicas. Service is good, the one bartender is really sweet and a few of the dancers are really hot. It's expensive as they all are over there and bound to follow the same trajectory which is prices through the roof. As far as unsolicited company it falls somewhere between Solid Gold and Black, there will be chicas that come up and sit down univited but it's not overwhelming as in Solid Gold. If your wallet sustains it, the median on the chicas is higher than downtown and there are a lot of english speaking workers. In my opinion I wouldn't agree with the avoid rating.
Didn't that beating have something to do with an unpaid bill?
If they beat one man, they will beat another. Some months ago I asked you (or your supposedly-beaten friend) to provide some details to support this allegation.
For his part, Judd posted a detailed account which suggested your friend ran up a big tab, had no funds to pay it, became belligerent, and was thrown out - and not beaten. I'm sure you would agree there is a big difference between those two scenarios.
In addition, people whom I know and respect have frequented the place. It's hardly likely that Jackson is so stupid as to go to a place where they beat up the customers.
If Judd's account was in any way inaccurate, I expect that it would have been easy enough to challenge. I know Judd personally, and know that, like you, he is a source of good factual information on this board.
The report I got and repeated here (from a chica whose roommate was seated with him) was that he pulled a knife from his waistband when the bouncer got close.
The chicas then scattered and the bouncer did indeed clobber him and threw him out. They said he had a 350 peso tab and had less than 50 pesos with him. A notable evening for all hands.
Greetings everyone,
I had assumed that "The Incident" at La Lopez several months ago was now old news, so I had refrained from posting a followup report subsequent to my own recent inquiry into the event. However, it would appear that the results of my own inquiry are still relevant.
Last month while I was visiting La Lopez I took the opportunity to discuss "The Incident" with the manager "Robert" and the doorman "Carlos". Many of you met Robert while he was working at Madahos. Both gentlemen clearly remembered the incident and were please to relay to me their observations of the evening's events.
I will preface this narrative by stating that I spoke with Monger1 (the forum member who was the center of the issue) at El Alamo earlier on the same evening of "The Incident". I remember observing that he was drinking a double shot of what appeared to be whisky, and I remember his ordering a second double shot while I was conversing with him. Judd also remembers talking with Monger1 in El Alamo and made the same observation, although neither of us knew at the time that this would be of any significance.
Monger1 arrived at La Lopez at approximately midnight and was greeted by Robert, both gentlemen having know each other by name from Madahos. Upon his arrival, Monger1, who was in an apparently inebriated condition at that time, took a seat at the bar and ordered a double shot of whisky.
Over the next hour or so, Robert observed that Monger1 appeared to be enhancing his intoxication by drinking heavily, eventually ordering drinks for several chicas. During this time Robert approached Monger1 twice and asked him if he was "all right". Monger1 waived Robert off and continued drinking.
Eventually, Monger1 decided to leave and asked for his bill, which had now grown to approximately 400 pesos. Upon being presented with the bill and upon discovering that he had only a few dozen pesos in his pocket, Monger1, who apparently by this point had transgressed into a state of complete intoxication, became belligerent, and in an act of drunken defiance threw what pesos he had in his pocket down on the floor and begin complaining loudly about the prices. At this point Robert tried to converse with Monger1 and calm him down, all to no avail, and he and his associates soon felt compelled to intervene and forcibly escorted Monger1 to the door.
Robert expressed to me several times in the course of our conversation that Monger1's funding shortfall wasn't an issue because Robert knew Monger1 and would have easily accepted an arrangement wherein he would return to the club the next day to pay his bar tab. Unfortunately, Monger1 did not have the mental acuity at that time to discuss this option, having instead launched into a vocal tirade.
Robert and Carlos also expressed to me that they did not "beat up" Monger1 in any sense of the word. What they did was employ a technique that I've seen used in clubs before wherein several employees will completely surround a belligerent customer and literally lift him a few inches off the ground by the arms, shoulders and his belt, to be spirited across the room and out the door. With this technique the customer is completely overwhelmed and unable to resist the direction in which he is being carried because his feet cannot touch the floor.
Immediately after "The Incident" I PM'ed and email'ed Monger1 several times requesting his version of the events, but he's never replied and in fact subsequent to "The Incident" he appears to have made a decision to retire from public life.
Given Judd's and my own observations of Monger1's earlier drinking, my own knowledge of Monger1's past proclivities to consume too much alcohol in public places, and the accounts provided by Robert and Carlos, it's my conclusion that Monger1 simple got too drunk and entered one of those phases of intoxication wherein he lost all control. We've all experienced this at one time or another in our lives, so everyone knows what I'm describing.
It's unfortunate that Monger1 is unwilling to give us his recollection of the events, but then it's entirely possible that he doesn't remember anything, this being one of the symptoms of complete intoxication.
It's also unfortunate that some other forum members elected to jump to conclusions regarding this incident, especially those who IMHO posted premature warnings in this forum to "AVOID" La Lopez because they "beat up" a customer, said advisory being posted without any apparent effort to accurately ascertain the actual events.
Thanks,
Jackson
Gauntlet77
02-22-07, 20:56
Maybe Monger1 was beaten up by street vultures AFTER his departure from La Lopez.
This place is definately not another Rouge. The staff there were totally non confrontational when I complained about the chica drink price and were more than willing to forgo the difference. I could not imagine those people ever over reacting without excellent cause.
Now that I realize that my incident was indeed related to a bad drink pricing policy, I am inclined to revise my complaint. This club, to avoid such misunderstandings in the future, merely needs to refine their drink pricing policy to be among the best in Recoleta.
The key staff members speak excellent English and they have a great attitude towards the customers. The chicas there are numerous and very attractive.
On the question of the individual who was supposedly beaten, could it be that he was beaten by another monger who mistook his identity for Hunt99, later that evening?
Daddy Rulz
02-22-07, 21:55
On the question of the individual who was supposedly beaten, could it be that he was beaten by another monger who mistook his identity for Hunt99, later that evening?But like Larry the cable guy says, "if you kant laugh at this then you kant laugh"
His chin had black and blue bruises, clearly from the bouncers knuckles. His eye was black, clearly from a punch. Nose was possibly broken. Golly, I must be wrong. Must have been make-up. He wanted me to feel sorry for him. Enjoy! P. S. It is so far fetched, it couldn't possibly be a lie? Could it just be possible La Lopez might be trying to protect their ass by lieing to Judd? Oh, I forgot, an AR businessman would never tell a lie!Based on his supposed behaviour at the club he sounds like a totally obnoxious, beligerent, and delusional bastard. Compound that with his likely mood after being ejected from the club, and he could have easily become embroiled in another confrontation later on.
AND, if he did pull a knife, he deserved to be beaten. Lucky he's not in jail.
1. The next day, I witnessed bruises, severe bruises, all over his face.
2. Someboby beat him up.
3. I didn't jump to any conclusions, the Monger told me they beat him up.
4. The knife story referred to by Stormy was not confirmed by the management.
5. Of course, an AR ho club would never lie to protect their asses!
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As I said earlier, go there enjoy. It could never happen to you!Hi Sidney,
I'm not what you mean when you state "never lie to protect their asses!".
Protect "their asses" from what? A mob of angry foreigners seeking revenge for the mis-treatment of a stranger?
Also, you wrote "It could never happen to you!", which is correct because I do all my heavy drinking at home.
Thanks,
Jackson
Just wanted to drop my worthless two cents,
I have been inside this club once, I went with two fellow mongers. It was nice, we got a free look inside and the decor was interesting. It seems like they really put some thought into it. To be honest, the selection of girls on that particular night was not to my liking so I left. But it did have many girls and many patrons, so it seems like the type of place that might hold some gems on select occasions. Again the staff was always polite and cordial and it doesn't seem like a shady place. I would go again any time, though the selection would have to be a little better for my liking to take something home.
In regards to the unfortunate inebriated monger and his experience. I would have to chock it up to lack of judgement and maybe his drinking buddies should have better looked out for a friend who was most likely past his limit. I won't make judgements because most everyone has had a little too much piva or samogan for his own good at one point or another. I think that in any case, the establishment treated the situation with at least some tact. The situation could have really escalated after a drunk guy pulls a knife. I am glad the monger only ended up with slight bruising.
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WorldTravel69
02-23-07, 04:46
I learned this a long time ago.
"You can Count your friends on One Hand."
Sad but true.
We should try to help our friendly buddy mongers when in need.
I may need your help? Sometime, hope not.
As taken from an old Song "I'm Easy as Sunday Morning." or "After Midnight."
Which ever?
I guess I will have too check this place out. Anyone interested. Say March 2nd or 3rd.
Just wanted to drop my worthless two cents,
I have been inside this club once, I went with two fellow mongers. It was nice, we got a free look inside and the decor was interesting. It seems like they really put some thought into it. To be honest, the selection of girls on that particular night was not to my liking so I left. But it did have many girls and many patrons, so it seems like the type of place that might hold some gems on select occasions. Again the staff was always polite and cordial and it doesn't seem like a shady place. I would go again any time, though the selection would have to be a little better for my liking to take something home.
In regards to the unfortunate inebriated monger and his experience. I would have to chock it up to lack of judgement and maybe his drinking buddies should have better looked out for a friend who was most likely past his limit. I won't make judgements because most everyone has had a little too much piva or samogan for his own good at one point or another. I think that in any case, the establishment treated the situation with at least some tact. The situation could have really escalated after a drunk guy pulls a knife. I am glad the monger only ended up with slight bruising.
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Member #3314
02-23-07, 13:56
I had a busy night last night. I ended up here at about 4 am with bullets left to shoot. I decided to give this place another chance. I was stone sober when I went in.
I got away with no cover going in I told the guy it was going to close soon so it was no problem. I order a drink and pay cash for it. Not a big savings here cover is 40 and the drink is 30. You get a free drink with the cover usually.
There were about 10 chicas in there and it was getting late. I saw this one right when I walked in that looked very good. A few minutes later she was on my lap chatting away. I told her I would pay 150 pesos for an hour at my apartment, she said it was too low she wanted 300 I said no thanks and sent her away.
The 2 two ugliest girls in the place walk up to me next and I send them away.
I was just about to call it a night and chica number one comes back and says OK lets go for 150.
She ends up being a really good fuck, was a slow starter but once she got going it was all good. After the deed we end up chatting. I ask her for her phone number and she gives me a business card. She has an events planning gig. I am guessing it is not doing so well currently.
I had no problem with the management at all. I don't like the expensive chica drink here though, it can make this place expensive for the quality of chica.
There were these 2 German guys in there with two shots on the bar for 4 chicas. They must have done 3 rounds and a bottle of Dom. Now thats a spendy night.
Where is this place? I was there a couple months ago and I don't remember seeing this establishment.
Vicente Lopez, across from the cemetery.
From the corner of Vicente Lopez and Junin (Recoleta Village) keep walking toward Madahos and it's on the left between a couple of restaurants, past the block of Recoleta Village. Number 42?
Member #3314
02-26-07, 04:44
After my success at La Lopez the other night I decided to give it another go.
It was Sunday night and there was not many chicas out, it just started storming and New Port was empty.
I got this chica to go for 180 pesos, in the club she was very affectionate no red flags.
I get her back to the apartment and the first redflag goes off when she objects to me locking us both in the apartment. I tell her if she does not like it she can go, she drops it and all is well.
5 minuted later she asks for the money up front, I tell her that I will put the money on the counter down stairs while we are fucking or she can go. She goes along with it and goes upstairs to shower.
She asks me how many rubbers I have I tell her two. We start to go at it she is blowing me with some teeth added. After a few minutes she pulls the rubber off and throws it away. I am thinking what the hell. She puts another one on and starts fucking. Things are going well, we change positions and pulls the rubber off and says "oops" we don't have any more. She was playing me trying to run me out of rubbers. Well I had a 10 pack in the other drawer so her scam is not working.
At this point I am pissed I put another rubber on and I literally grudge fucked this chica for 40 minutes doggy to take out my anger.
I would avoid this chica, she is a pro. She also told me that some guys pay her one thousand dollars on the way out. I told her those guys were dumb asses and walked her out.
She would not let me take a face pic. Her name is Alma and her number is 15-6476-5543
KG,
Check out this report.
http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showpost.php?p=346919&postcount=70
There are more bad reports and pictures posted somewhere on this chica. But I can't locate them right now.
Found two more reports:
http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showpost.php?p=349807&postcount=137
http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showpost.php?p=346128&postcount=19
I'm sure they were refering to the same chica, KG.
Member #3314
02-27-07, 00:17
This is definatly the same chica. Can't hide the tattoo.
She is now working at La Lopez under a different name.
She does speak very good english by the way.
I am thinking about going back there and talking to the one english speaking doorman. I don't know if it would do any good. I defiantly won't mention this board. I might say I read something about her on foro.
I guess the reaction I get from the doorman would be a good indicator of the management of this club.
Member #3314
03-01-07, 13:56
I was going to madaho's last night and as I was walking by they tried to get me to go in so I figured what the hell lets see how they react to me telling them about the bad chica.
I talked to the english speaking manager type guy, I can't remember his name. I told him I pulled a chica out of here 2 days ago and he remembered me very well. We had chatted a bit at that time. I told him that Alma (or whatever her name is this month) was not very good once I got her back to the apartment, and that she used to work other places with a bad reputation. I also told him that she had a reputation on multiple message boards, I never mentioned witch ones but he knew what I was talking about obviously.
I was shocked at what happened next. He gave me a free pass to come back another night let me in free that night, and he gave me a free drink. I sat down at the bar and was nursing my drink looking at the chicas. The manager waited 5 minutes then walked over to Alma grabbed her by the arm and took her in the back. I never saw her again that night.
This is when is got interesting the Latin chica network kicked in and no chica would talk to me. I chalked it up as a draw, and I left.
As I was walking out the door the chica that I have been banging from madahos was walking out the door to go home, I got her attention and had a good night with her without the madaho's cover / drinks.
I am leaving tomorrow and I probably won't go back to la lopez this trip, but the management in my opinion does not like to have chicas with a bad rep in there place.
Daddy Rulz
03-01-07, 14:46
But I want to nominate Krazy for "Newbie of the Year" this guy has banged more chicas than I can believe, has consistantly been tight on holding prices, tossed girls for errant behavior, been interesting to talk to at Excedra and, forgive me for telling tales out of school, even put the two girl lesbian porno date together.
He could be beat by years end, but it will take a strong challenge.
KG has done a fine job while in BA,
Though it is a tight competition, Smirky banged quite a few himself, but KG has been consistant about holding the price line. It's also nice to hear he puts the chicas on notice, either by refusing to be serviced when the chica changes terms last minute or by informing the chica management.
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Good report KG. I will avoid her like the plague.
I know I have seen that tatto before, thanks for the report.
I was shocked at what happened next. He gave me a free pass to come back another night let me in free that night, and he gave me a free drink. Gee, I'm surprised he didn't beat you up!
Have been here a few times now and I like the place. It has a nice interior. Not too big, so you can easily get an overview of who's there. Comfortable chairs and sofas. Some of the girls are very cute, I'd say that on average it is about the same level of girls as at Madahos. If the girls were even cuter, this would be a great club.
I've taken a couple of girls out of there. The last one was Miranda, a very tiny little girl with a tattoo of an M on her hand. She's not beautiful, but very cute, and has a very sexy body, for those who like petite girls. She's extremely flexible, does anal very well; she could do it continuously for two hours. Very impressive. Complete gfe. Excellent service.
Greetings everyone,
Monger1 sent me an email yesterday. He wanted me to know that he thought I was a dick. His exact words were...
"yOUR A DICK jACKSON"As you can see, Monger1 is once again trying to impress us with his writing skills.
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Greetings everyone,
I had assumed that "The Incident" at La Lopez several months ago was now old news, so I had refrained from posting a followup report subsequent to my own recent inquiry into the event. However, it would appear that the results of my own inquiry are still relevant.
Last month while I was visiting La Lopez I took the opportunity to discuss "The Incident" with the manager "Robert" and the doorman "Carlos". Many of you met Robert while he was working at Madahos. Both gentlemen clearly remembered the incident and were please to relay to me their observations of the evening's events.
I will preface this narrative by stating that I spoke with Monger1 (the forum member who was the center of the issue) at El Alamo earlier on the same evening of "The Incident". I remember observing that he was drinking a double shot of what appeared to be whisky, and I remember his ordering a second double shot while I was conversing with him. Judd also remembers talking with Monger1 in El Alamo and made the same observation, although neither of us knew at the time that this would be of any significance.
Monger1 arrived at La Lopez at approximately midnight and was greeted by Robert, both gentlemen having know each other by name from Madahos. Upon his arrival, Monger1, who was in an apparently inebriated condition at that time, took a seat at the bar and ordered a double shot of whisky.
Over the next hour or so, Robert observed that Monger1 appeared to be enhancing his intoxication by drinking heavily, eventually ordering drinks for several chicas. During this time Robert approached Monger1 twice and asked him if he was "all right". Monger1 waived Robert off and continued drinking.
Eventually, Monger1 decided to leave and asked for his bill, which had now grown to approximately 400 pesos. Upon being presented with the bill and upon discovering that he had only a few dozen pesos in his pocket, Monger1, who apparently by this point had transgressed into a state of complete intoxication, became belligerent, and in an act of drunken defiance threw what pesos he had in his pocket down on the floor and begin complaining loudly about the prices. At this point Robert tried to converse with Monger1 and calm him down, all to no avail, and he and his associates soon felt compelled to intervene and forcibly escorted Monger1 to the door.
Robert expressed to me several times in the course of our conversation that Monger1's funding shortfall wasn't an issue because Robert knew Monger1 and would have easily accepted an arrangement wherein he would return to the club the next day to pay his bar tab. Unfortunately, Monger1 did not have the mental acuity at that time to discuss this option, having instead launched into a vocal tirade.
Robert and Carlos also expressed to me that they did not "beat up" Monger1 in any sense of the word. What they did was employ a technique that I've seen used in clubs before wherein several employees will completely surround a belligerent customer and literally lift him a few inches off the ground by the arms, shoulders and his belt, to be spirited across the room and out the door. With this technique the customer is completely overwhelmed and unable to resist the direction in which he is being carried because his feet cannot touch the floor.
Immediately after "The Incident" I PM'ed and email'ed Monger1 several times requesting his version of the events, but he's never replied and in fact subsequent to "The Incident" he appears to have made a decision to retire from public life.
Given Judd's and my own observations of Monger1's earlier drinking, my own knowledge of Monger1's past proclivities to consume too much alcohol in public places, and the accounts provided by Robert and Carlos, it's my conclusion that Monger1 simple got too drunk and entered one of those phases of intoxication wherein he lost all control. We've all experienced this at one time or another in our lives, so everyone knows what I'm describing.
It's unfortunate that Monger1 is unwilling to give us his recollection of the events, but then it's entirely possible that he doesn't remember anything, this being one of the symptoms of complete intoxication.
It's also unfortunate that some other forum members elected to jump to conclusions regarding this incident, especially those who IMHO posted premature warnings in this forum to "AVOID" La Lopez because they "beat up" a customer, said advisory being posted without any apparent effort to accurately ascertain the actual events.
Thanks,
Jackson
Jackson,
You question why I keep calling these MotherFuckers "CockSuckers", below is just one good example.
Exon
SexMachine
04-14-07, 19:18
I was there last night with 2 fellow mongers for the first time. I have to say it is a very nice set up there. Doorman tried to charge us the cover but when we asked for the manager named Bobby, he called him and we were inside without any cover. 30 Pesos for beer and most of the girls were very hot. One good looking brunette quoted US$200 for 2 hours. When countered with 300 pesos for 2 hours, she just took off. No words whatsoever. What a fucking attitude? We decided to finish our drinks and go to Cocodrilo.
Jacskon,
At least he did you "the honor" of a reply. I suppose your reputation really is worldwide.:-)
Oops, Jackson.
I guess I need to read more carefully, I thought he said you HAD a dick! TIC of course!
Took this picture last year, but they still look the same.
Aramis Col
05-02-07, 15:15
La Lopez.
Competition of Madahos, a apart from the stuff from Madahos is here. The girls pretty enough at least four or five excellent ones. The entrance 40 pesos with a drink. The glass of the girl 60 pesos, less than in. Madahos. But the gift to take a girl around 150 dollars. Too much. I was taking with a beautiful, thin, likeable brunnet girl named Malena, very pretty but for a conventional service 150 dollars is really too much
Aramis Col
05-04-07, 19:34
Sixth Stop La Lopez.
I returned to see the brunet girl who asks the 150 dollars. With the intention to negotiate something. The club was crowded and they combine the music well. The girl in question was not yesterday.
An important remark the girl name is Milena not Malena, sorry about the confusion but was not the kind of detail in which I was interested, when I was talking with her on Tuesday night.
Aramis Col
05-05-07, 17:53
Second Stop La Lopez.
The saloon was full and very moved. Good music also. After a few words with Milena to arrange a date on Sunday, we go away. This nightclub is a serious competition to Madahos, the investment has been great and the shows are improving.
My first trip to this establishment. Teddybear and I arrived around 1 AM. Most of the girls I had seen in Madahos before. Robert, whom I knew from the days of Madahos, was pointing out the higher prices at Madahos compared to his establishment. There were some new girls who had some possibilities. One of them, Lady Ximena, a girl from Columbia was pretty attractive, both from the standpoint of attitude and look, to me. However, I wanted to wait and there started the trouble. La Lopez, just recruited a new dancer, Yanina, who totally clouded my judgement. I was so smitten with her entire presence that for a while I thought of doing the unthinkable- buying her a drink. I told Robert that fortunately I don't have much money with me tonight, otherwise I would have spent serious money on her. Anyway, most of the time, I was just wathcing her dance on the stage. About 3:30 AM, I came back to reality and started to make my nightly arrangement. I only want TLN, otherwise, no go. I lost track of Lady Ximena, so I offered a slim, quite attractive dominican 300 P for TLN. She refused. Exactly at that moment, my Lady appeared. A 2 minutes conversation, 300 Peso for TLN, at least until noon. Paid the bill to Robert and we both left.
The girl is 25 yr. Old. Has a full time tourism job and sparingly works in La Lopez. No children and a great body. Most importantly, a great attitude. Her smile never left her. I was having a time of my life. She is very photogenic and love to pose. She did some modeling job in Columbia before.
Sex was great. Not too keen on BBBJ, although she did it. According to her, she came three times. I can only vouch for one. About to lose my pocket rocket to her. It would have been my sixthg one to a BA chica. I told her I still have few days left. She is great at cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and 4 x4. By 6 AM, it was time to sleep. I pushed her out at 1 PM. She already was late for work.
She speaks great English (she is in tourism industry) So all Spanish challenged mongers, take note.
300 Peso and 10 P for taxi---- money well spent.
Bandy
Shorttimer
05-12-07, 19:09
Stay away from Yamila. She is a cold fish. Just laid there.
Beautiful ass, but a small chest. That beautiful ass got me because the signs were there from the beginning. Empty promises, Oh, well!
Already spent two nights of TLN with Lady Ximena. On Sunday, she actually skipped the club and came directly to my apartment at 11 AM. The girl simply rocks my boat. So, on Wednesday, I visited La Lopez again, hoping to pick up, Ximena for the third time. My friend and I arrived, little befor 3 AM. Ximena was not there. I began to search for an alternative and very soon met a beautiful paraguayan, who I never saw before. She told me that she just started on Monday. Before she used to work in an supermarket. Selena is 20 yr. Old, living in Argentina for 8 months. My stadard TLN deal of 300 Peso was accepeted with the caveat that I don't tell it to anybody.
At the apartment, she never disappointed me. Except cola, she offered every position. This trip, all the girls performed BBBJ without asking. She left little after 12 noon. I liked her so much, that I promised her that I will be back for her tonight at La Lopez before 3 AM.
This club is really a revelation for me. Excellent atmosphere and lots of desirable chicas. And I still can get them at my price!
Bandy
FlexyFlyer
05-19-07, 12:15
Bandy,
Thanks for the wonderful information. Do you have any contact information other than meeting these women in the club?
Well, this had to happen sometimes. I am raving this place so much, that my string of good luck has to end sooner or later. Sometimes you encounter a very bad apple. This is the reality of mongering life. I am posting it for the new mongers who may learn a thing or two from this event.
It was Thursday (May 17) night. As promised, I visited La Lopez around 2:30 AM to pick up Selena. Bad news! Her sister came to me and said that Selena left for home due to an emergency. Bobby also confirmed that Selena came at 11 PM, got a telephone call and left immediately. I was disappointed. I was looking for a suitable substitute. Looked for Ximena, not there. Uma, another one I somewhat promised to take her for a night also was not there. So I sat on the bar and ordered a drink. Next to me sitting a sweet girl named Candi. We started talking. However, she really did not jump out as "the candidate" at that point. Then my eyes got glued on an absolutely "Model" look chica, named KARINA, who was staring at me through a wall of several people and started smiling. In my mongering experience, they are the first one to avoid. But today, at these late hours as well as due to the unavailability of my favoritas, I decided to indulge myself in "look". I asked Candi to call her over. In front of me standing a super model! She looks very much like an eastern European model. I thought she is of Russian heritage. But she is a Paraguayan with extremely white skin. She has a mole on her chin right below the lips. I am describing her, so that you can spot her in the club. Anyway, the deal was not still sealed in my mind. Then she started doing some tango moves with me and I was sold! I settled for 300 P for a few hours. And most importantly, that I always "pay later". My Spanish is pretty good (even she acknowledged during our conversation) and we never talked a word of English. She agreed and I bought a drink for her and sat on a sofa. Learned that yesterday, she reached her 23rd birthday. She worked in many parts of Europe for two years and going back to Europe in July. I did not get good vibes that normally I get from other girls. I was totally dry for 24 hours, needed a girl and so be it. We left the place at 4 AM. Bobby told me to treat her well in celebration for her birthday.
We walked to the apartment. Some drinking, light kissing. Nothing was going in my way. There was absolutely nothing in her that was attractive to me at this point. Still she has a gorgeous figure and a face and I just thought of doing the deed and get it over with.
I told her to take a shower. She spent some time in the bathroom and came out with bra and panty. I took a shower and came to bed. Then it happened! She asked for the money. I reminded her that the deal is that I will pay later. She said no. I told her to leave. She waited until I showered. She thought, at this point I will be on my knees to fuck her. Again, I told her nicely to leave. I said that if I take her back to the club, it will be bad for her. Last year, one girl from Black did the same thing. I said the same thing to her that if I take her back to Danny, it will not be good for her. She immediately left. Normally I don't want to hurt their business. However, Karina will not relent. She wanted to see the money. I showed her the money and she grabbed the notes and threw those on the floor and tear out one of the 100 Peso note. I just got furious. I said that NOW she has crossed the line. Told her to get dressed quickly and I will take her back to Bobby. She was also interested. She thought that she will make me banned from La Lopez. She never realized that I know Bobby for a long time.
Quick walk to La Lopez and asked one of the attendants to get Bobby. I quickly explained to Bobby what happened and showed him the torn bill. Bobby immediately replaced the bill and apologized for the event. Bobby said that he was glad that I brought her back and reported to him. He deals with 60 girls, it is impossible for him to follow everyone. He instructed the guys that all my drinks will be free. I was entering the boliche. Karina started yelling pointing to Bobby that I was going inside the club. Since I was talking to Bobby in English, she never understood what my conversation with Bobby was all about. Bobby took Karina inside and lectured her for more than half an hour. Bobby came back to me, again apologized. Meanwhile, Ximena came back from an appointment and confirmed to Bobby that I was the only one who said that I will pay later. She trusted me and found to have no problem. Bobby said that he knows me and he realized Karina tried to change the deal. But most of the girls will ask to be paid up front. I said that's why I made all my deals inside the boliche prior to buying them a drink. Later on, one of the attendants told me that Bobby gave Karina the last warning. If it happens again, she will be out of the club. (I saw her next night at the club. She is too beautiful to be banned at this point. She is definitely a Copa earner. The girl gets 10 P and the club gets 50 P)
Anyway, I am still without a girl. It is 5 AM now. Ximena said the guy (he saw her picture at my apartment and had to go and get her that night! HA HA!!) she went out with fucked her so hard that she is out of commission for now. Monica, the bartender offering me free drinks. I promised to come back tomorrow, my final night, and take up on her offer. With no viable alternative (all the girls either left or in the process of leaving) I left the club with a very bitter taste. Karina totally fucked up one of my precious nights.
Story does not end here. It is turning out to be a novella. But I promised Jackson that I will post the event in detail and here it goes.
I was casually walking towards the apartment and saw three of the girls, who just left La Lopez, walking ahead of me. While I was passing them, one of the girls pulled my hand. I turned around and it was Candi, the girl I first conversed tonight prior to all these happenings. She wanted to know what happened. I briefly described the event and she just held me in a quick embrace. She told me to forget about Karina and she will make me the happiest person in the world. I joked that whether she wants to see the money first. She slapped on my hand and asked me to stop talking.
This little 22 yr old kept her promise and some more. For two hours she simply rocked my boat. It only goes to show that looks could be so deceiving! To have a good time, the "ATTITUDE" of the chica is the most important trait one should look for!
I was totally satisfied. I gave her 250 P and put her in a cab.
All well when it ends well!
Bandy
Thanks Bandy, very nice post we all can learn from.
Exon
Bandy's post is a perfect example of Hunt's Law Number Four in action. Bravo Bandy!
I saw Bandy's story and thought I would relate a similar occurence that happened to my buddy a couple of weeks ago. I went to La Lopez with him because it was his second time in BsAs and he doesn't speak the lingo. I had also heard some good things about the place and the ladies. He saw Karina and had a similar reaction to her beauty. I called her over and had a three way conversation with her, now it was early in the evening and we got the same, " I worked on Europe" speech. My buddy wanted her in a bad way, but I convinced him to be cool and I started the bargaining, she wanted $200 USD for TLN and I told her that we were in Argentina and didn't have dollars, I countered with $250 pesos for two hours and if it went well, another $50 for TLN. I thought my buddy was going to blow his wad, but she wouldn't budge off of $450 pesos for two hours, so we walked away. I think she was surprised and it seems it was the right choice.
He saw another cute blond named Violeta and we started talking, she said that it was only her 5th night working and at first I thought it might be true, but I had a feeling that she had learned a lot in five nights, but she seemed to be friendly and my friend was happy.
I started to arrange the deal and told her he would give her $200 for 1.5 hours, she acted insulted, so I told my friend to look elsewhere, and then she countered with $300, I asked her if that was for TLN and she said, until at least 11:00am. It was late and it seemed everyone was happy. They left and went on their merry way to Blissville or so I thought.
I finished my drink and went back to the hotel, happy in the knowledge that I had started another monger on the road to joy and chicas!
I was in my room about 5 mins. When the phone rang and my friend told me that she wanted the money upfront and I told him don't give it to her and ask him to put her on the phone. I told her that she didn't have to worry, my friend would pay her, but when she left and that he wouldn't pay first. I told her that I knew Bobby from another club (she had seen us talking in the club) and that she didn't need to worry. She went on and on about this being her job and that she had been in the business for seven years and wasn't going to be "screwed" out of her money. I asked her about the 5 day thing and she said it doesn't matter.
She put my friend on the phone and I told him under no circumstances to pay in advance, if he wanted to give her 100 pesos to save the date, okay, but if it were me I would send her back. I talked to her again and she said no to the $100, I said okay and talked to my friend again. He was pissed at her attitude and wasn't interested anymore and I told him I would tell her to leave his room.
I told her to leave the room and she said not until she was paid, I said if she wasn't out of the room in ten minutes I was going to call security to remove her and then go to the club and tell Bobby what happened. I told my friend to hang up and give her ten minutes and if she didn't leave to call me and act like he was calling security, she waited until he picked up the phone to leave, I don't know what she said to him, but I am sure it wasn't nice.
I did hear from another friend that was at the club when she returned that she told Bobby, my buddy wouldn't pay her and he asked how she knew that since she had only been gone about an hour.
So goes the never ending power struggle, chicas vs mongers!
On another note, I did hear from two guys that were with Ladi that she was a real treat! I did see her in the club dancing to a Shakira song, but never talked to her. She seems to be telling the same story to everyone, who knows maybe it is true!
Monger On!
SR - "Just Say No."
The girls need your money a lot more than you need her to have sex with you. You can kick her out if she requires you to pay first, go back out, and get another piece of ass to drill in about 20 minutes. On the other hand, she'll be lucky to find another customer that night.
The best approach in such a situation, as has been recounted elsewhere, is to go back with the girl to the same club you left from, make a show of depositing her back onto the floor, have a drink, and make a show of telling anyone who asks that you're back in the club because the girl demanded money up front, and that you were not going to pay for a pig in a poke. In reality you'll get the respect of most of the other girls in the place, and they'll typically compete for your company.
I could give a rats ass who at the club respects me for holding out especially if you are on the "vacation clock".
True, Starfe, but the goal is to get top performance from your totty - paying first makes the chances of a lackluster fuck and a quick runaway much, much higher. Nobody, not even a bigshot like yourself on a quick holiday, wants a piss-poor fuck. By saying "respect" I mean that they're going to work harder and perform for you.
After dinner and a boy's night out at Excedra for several hours, my friend and I entered La Lopez at 2:30 AM. Right at the entrance, I saw Karina is standing alone. We both looked at each other and I moved to the bar area. Monica poured drinks for both of us. Tonight all drinks were free. I tipped her generously. Within minutes Bobby came over shook hands and then went in the back and brought Selena to me. I took one look at her wicked smile, and knew I am secured for my last night. I asked her about last night. She said that once she entered the club, she got a call that her aunt was in a car accident. She spent the entire night in the hospital. According to Jackson "this may be an aunt with a mustache"! But who cares? We are all party of some transient events. She is here for my last night and I am quite ecstatic about it. Things were quite swell at the club. Met all my favoritas, Ximena, Uma, and others. Even managed to meet and say hello to the dancer Vanina, who I was so enamored with in my first night. She is really gorgeous! At 3 AM, said final goodbye to everybody and Selena and I left for the apartment.
I barely stepped into the apartment and she pulled me on the sofa. Just a very simple question, what happened last night with Karina? "How did you know?" I asked. I never mentioned anything to her in the club. "I will tell you later, you first answer my question", she relented. I quickly realized it must be the Paraguay connection. I told her the entire episode. She was stunned that Karina tore up the 100 P note. Then I asked her how she knew about it. Apparently, in the club, Karina saw her in my arms and was quite astonished. She told her that I was the worst person in the world and how she could even consider talking to me. Selena told her that she already spent a night with me and her experience is totally the opposite. However, this accusation made Selena totally confused and hence an immediate grilling started as soon as we entered the apartment. Then I got creatively offensive. I said it was all her fault. I kept my part of the bargain. I went to La Lopez for her and she was not there. Had she been available nothing like this would have happened! Then I heard the funniest line from a "chica de la noche". She said that once I did not find her in the club, why I didn't come back to the apartment and sleep. I barely hold the laugh in front of her. But inside, I am still laughing. The demand of fidelity from a monger by a chica, with whom I spent only one night! The morning before when she left, she changed all the sheets and made up the bed and told me not to bring any chica before she comes back for the night. I told her that she must have put some voodoo magic in action. That's why Karina did not work out. This is the only problem of doing TLN. Once they like somebody they become very possessive.
The night of passion lasted over two hours. It was better than the last time. This trip, she was overall the best I had. Lovely girl!
I have to leave the apartment at 12 noon. But the maid is coming at 11 AM. Reluctantly, I had to force her to leave at 10:30 AM. She gave her number and made me promise to call her as soon as I return.
Before leaving, she provided information about another paper shredder at La Lopez. Her name is Marisa. She has a dark skin. Once she tore up three 100 USD bills, because she expected 500 USD for 5 hours. What's wrong with these girls? Most importantly, what's wrong with these mongers? 300 USD for a few hours of session? Mind boggling!
Bandy
As interesting as the "pay before" tales are there's a simple way for guys to stay in charge of this part of the experience and eliminate the arguments. I offer this knowing in advance that some guys go blind when a chica asks for money up front, lose the ability to reason & take it as an insult, but this technique has worked for me 100% of the time and you find out quickly whether you've got a girl that's just nervous about getting paid or a girl that's making other plans for enhancing the reward you're going to be giving.
When that moment comes up or before it comes up, take the agreed on money out and put it out of reach on the table or dresser or whatever. Make it apparent how much you're laying down so there can be no suspicion. Tell her, if she still doesn't get it, it's hers when she leaves but she can't have it until then.
In my experiences that's the end of it. They're either satisfied that all's on the square or if they had other ideas they know they're going to have to admit it and go for broke right on the spot.
2 years of drama free regalitos and counting except for one chica from Black that grabbed the money, demanded more and on not getting it left with my 200 p. Free drinks at Black til I recouped my money and I never went back.
Rubiks Cube
05-28-07, 22:00
I come to Buenos Aires every 3 months and I would like to say that this place has gotten much better. They definitely get more and more talent. As far as atmosphere it is still lacking. Someone needs to explain to the girls that they will do much better if they stand and dance a little as opposed to sitting down. It is almost comical to me that on a typical night more than 90% of the girls will be sitting. This and the fact that Sundays suck (they dopretty much everywhere) are the only negatives.
I have seen a few girls here and each of them has been great and very sexy. I am glad that a new club is rising but it appears that Black is definitely dropping a notch. The club is clean and service from staff is great. They try harder than anywhere else for good customer service. The girls are a bit tough because you literally have to either get up and get them yourself or ask the waiters to do so. Young an pretty though an worth the effort. To those of you who came in the past and left disapoointed I would suggest another chance. It definitely seems to be a buyers market at this club
I come to Buenos Aires every 3 months and I would like to say that this place has gotten much better. They definitely get more and more talent. As far as atmosphere it is still lacking. SOmeone needs to explain to the girls that they will do much better if they stand and dance a little as opposed to sitting down. It is almost comical to me that on a typical night more than 90% of the girls will be sitting. This and the fact that Sundays suck (they dopretty much everywhere) are the only negatives.
I have seen a few girls here and each of them has been great and very sexy. I am glad that a new club is rising but it appears that Black is definitely dropping a notch. The club is clean and service from staff is great. They try harder than anywhere else for good customer service. The girls are a bit tough because you literally have to either get up and get them yourself or ask the waiters to do so. Young an pretty though an worth the effort. To those of you who came in the past and left disapoointed I would suggest another chance. It definitely seems to be a buyers market at this clubBobby, I hope you're reading this. Some excellent ideas and views for your business.
The prices sort of surprised me. This is per Bobby:
One 70peso drink per hour, plus the the 40 pesos door charge. I was able to get out for an all nighter for 3 drinks.
The girls are exactly as described elsewhere. Jackson helped me chose a 19 yo newbie Christmas time. So I went with her without discussing money. She knew that I'd be fair. I gave her 450 pesos for 1:30 to 6 and she seemed more than happy.
I am describing a 700 peso evening. This price seems ridiculous remembering just a few years ago. This is especially true since this same young lady sometimes works out of Orleans for 200 pesos per hour and down the block is Newport where the rate is 200 to 300 pesos for the basic 60 to 90 minute session. I also met some friends at Oro for drinks prior to Las where on site facilities cost 90 pesos. At Oro, maybe 20% of the girls are comparable to the Las Lopez beauties.
I wanted a high class evening and I got exactly what I was looking for, but 700 pesos is too much. I'm going to check out the competition down the block. Bobby said that his prices are lower. I have no interest in even looking in Blacks.
700 pesos at La Lopez?
Are you saying you paid 250 pesos to take the girl out for a TLN?
Sorry but that is fucked up. Basically the rule at Madahos is this, if you take the girl out after 3 am, she can leave for the night and you only pay one drink 80 pesos. Or if you are taking the girl out at 1 am you pay two drink and she can stay all night. I would NEVER negociate this with the club owner and in this case it sounds like you got ripped.
Try taking the girl home negociated the TLN with her and if she even brings up the drink fees offer to give her money for a second drink. I have done that once, though I usually take the girls out at 3 am, that way I can keep em til 6 and I only pay the 300 AR.
Good luck,
Bad
Where is La Lopez (as it is not on Jackson's map)
Door fees----------------------------------------40pesos.
3 drinks for all night at 1:15am---------------210
They first told me one drink per hour. The girl said that she had nothing to do with this. I did not discuss the house charges with her, but asked Bobby because I had not been to the club since christmas. A call to management got me the three drink charge. It was my birthday and I wanted this girl who would see me during the day. I paid and had a great night.
I thought that my posting would add to the general discussion about pricing in the high-end clubs. It is becoming absurd. I wanted what I wanted and no one forced me to pay. I discussed the former two drink policy.
And it was explained in the nicest of ways that this is their policy. My spanish is better than ok and Bobby speaks.
Completely fluent english--I was talking to him in spanish and he was responding in english. I have much less interest in 90 pesos bars filled with local color. I AM JUST NOT COMFORTABLE THERE. I WILL BE DOING MORE EXPERIMENTING IN LOCAL BARS. I consider Newport a middle ground. Excedera is so hit or miss. The high end clubs are filled with 7-9 level girls and provide a certain security that comes with their organization.
The house fees down the block would have been per BB,
50+80+80= 210 pesos and the drinks are more expensive.
The two A clubs cost just about the same--one is cheaper than the other based on whether you like to drink or buy a number of girls drinks in house vs having your one free drink with admission nothing else.
The prices charged by the girls are only one part of the equation. These clubs are searching for the highest limit of what the market will bare. I was never really interested in fighting city hall based on my 1 to 2 week stays 3 to 5 times per year, but it is getting crazy.
Any helpful comments would be appreciated. Please don't flame me. My situation permits me to have a reasonablly high budget, but I'm reaching my limits here. I am becoming just plain angry and feeling ripped off.
I hope that club management reads this.
one half block from Madahos. Walking towards the MacDonalds before Uriburu street. It is a beautiful club that I would likely prefer to Madahos because of the smaller size; higher percentage of more beautiful girls; the lower ratio of mongers to girls; and the helpful management attitude.
Based upon dogboy's comments in annother forum, this was not the girl's fault. We did not discuss $$.
I chose to pay her 450pesos based upon 4.5 hours and a basic rate of 300 pesos. She told me that she makes more money with less hassle at Orleans charging 200 pesos for a basic session that averages 30 minutes with downtown office workers stopping in for quickies. The tourists want and demand more time.
What upsets me is the attitude of both the Las Lopez and Madahos management teams with the house pricing policies.
Hey Bob,
Sorry if you thought I was flaming you, not my intention at all. If you had a good time, that is what matters. Everything else is irrelevent. I was only pointing out for your benifit or the benifit of others the loopholes.
A) At Black you can take a girl out for TLN for 600 AR, TLN, you pay 50 entrance and the 80 drink and that is it. Total = 730 AR. Mind you, this is a Black, and these are Black prices.
Be) At Madahos, if you take a girl out after 3 AM, you can have her for TLN for the price of one drink, since they give the girls 2 hours total 1 hour for the fucking and 30 minutes each way to get back to the club. So since the club closes at 4:30 AM, they are not expected to return after 3 AM. Total 300-400 plus 80 plus 50 = 430-530 AR.
C) If you want to take a girl out for TLN, negociate the TLN at the club and don't mention the drinks. It is generally assumed the girl will pay the drinks out of her pocket. In other words. Offer her 500 AR, but if it even comes up, tell her you will only pay her first drink out of the club. 9 out of 10 girls will take this deal because worse case scenario it means about 400 AR in their pocket. If you negociate like this you will only pay 110 for entrance and chica drink and 500 for the TLN total price = 610 That is more than enough.
In all my travels to La Lopez and Madahos, I have never paid more than 2 chica drinks, And it was only once at Madahos, at the girls request, which in hind sight was just a greedy girl, since the other 30 girls never even brought it up.
Try if possible, to find a girl early, around 1 am, talk with her for a while, then finally sit down, within 10-15 minutes the drink lady should arrive. Then, tell the girl you want to wait til 3 AM so she doesnt have to come back. Then negociate the TLN. The girl will sip her drink and you can relax for about an hour before it is time to go.
This way, the total cost shouldnt be more than 130 AR plus whatever the negociated price for the girl is. Usually 300-500 AR MAX. So in between 450-650 for the whole night MAX. I don't mind paying for a good experience. But the thought of greedy club owners getting more of my money than the rediculously priced 130 AR for two drinks is too much for me. I only want my money to go to the lady who sucks on my cock, those other cocksuckers can be content with their 130 AR for entrance and drink. I do things this way so the girl can get my money and not the club. This way the girl makes more, and you pay less. A truly win win situation.
Good Luck,
Bad
Wanted to check this place out tonight, but it was closed, probably because of tomorrow's election. Will many places be closed on election night?
Loso
The clubs were closed last night. So a lovely young lady,
Whose cel# was obtained at cattos spent the evening: 9:30-
3am with one hour off to eat out together for 300pesos[including 2 taxis] and she was happy with the money and I enjoyed my time with her.
Romina is a warm, sweet gem who really knows her way around a man. Look at cattos for other comments about her going back over the last year +++ I aggree with all the positive comments.
The only hassle is that it took a lot of work to get bbbj, it is not offerred freely. After hours of going though all the letters in the alphabet, it came and so did I.
Less than 700pesos Bob f / k / a Miami Bob.
Who is slowing getting back on budget.
WorldTravel69
06-10-07, 14:52
http://www.lalopeznightclub.com.ar/
I was not impressed on my first visit to La Lopez last week. Nice club décor, but with one big problem when compared to Madahos. The long, narrow room layout resulted in very little mixing of the ladies sitting at the bar and the customers. It was midnight on a Friday night and not too busy, so later the increased traffic may help with the mixing situation. Therefore, after a short chat with big size lady, I left for Madahos.
I stopped in on a Tuesday night and La Lopez was hoppin. About as happening a place as you could imagine. This was from about 12-1am. Place was almost totally packed with about 50 girls and 30 guys, loud thumping music, dancers on the stage, other girls dancing in various other places. Party central. Although after 1am a few groups left and it calmed down a little.
I sat next to a couple from Venezuela on vacation. They had asked the taxi driver to take them to a disco and this is where he took them. LOL. They had figured out what the place was about and were cool with it. The woman had had a couple drinks and was telling me how beautiful she thought the women were, but that her guy was a 'square' and probably wasn't appreciating the club as much. Fun chatting with them.
Quite a few good lookers here. Something for everyone. I chatted briefly with a hottie from Argentina, an 8.5-9 with one of the best DD racks I've seen in awhile. Damn. She was quite classy and refined, and I suspect will be a difficult sell at 300p. I didn't buy her a drink as we discussed I knew some girls here already and she said she would leave me alone so I could meet them.
Ended up hooking up with the same girl I did a couple nights ago, a cute, petite, black-haired Argentina girl who just started working at the club. Maybe a 7.5-8. Very GFE, kissing, BBBJ (though required some convincing) super accomodating and great sex. Paid 300p each time and gave a 40p propina.
If anybody takes out Lorena from this place I'd like to hear about your experience. She worked at Black for 5 years and has been working at La Lopez for maybe couple of months now. She's Argentine, has kind of a deep voice, but a real killer body.
Anybody going to La Lopez Friday night for the event with BairesGirls? I keep getting these e-mails about it. They are now saying that there are going to be 40 BG girls, 10 of their friends, and 40 La Lopez girls. I'm not in BA but it sounds like it could be an interesting event.
Two customers, 20 chicas sitting on, I assume, their fat asses, talking to each other! LOL! But, a little early in the evening for a good take on things. I continue to suggest you head over to Shampoo in search of the exquisite, young Dominicana. Perfect for your harem. We can talk later about my finder's fee.
But my wonderful ''tag team'' arrives Friday and Aug. 2. Si, si, si, --how does that old song go? ''Night and day, you are the one (2)''El Sid does Cole Porter. Another reason to sell today. Too many strange occurences.
MiddleAgeGuy
09-15-07, 12:04
I was her Friday night from around 12:20-1:30. The bartender waitress explained the drink price structure very clearly and gave me and my wingman 1 free each as it was our first time there. And truthfully, it was. Girls to guys ratio was 3:1. Some pretty good lookers, a couple of coke heads I think, mostly ok's, and of course the house dog. It was a little hard to see all around as we were at the bar but a semi- parade, not as obvious as Black, lets you see a selection.
One caught my eye, looking modelish and slutty all at the same time. A rock hard body and nice face. All was on the menu, but only partook in the normal stuff, well recieved, not a clock watcher, but admitted she was going back to the club at 3:40 as she was out with an injury for a while. Still a couple hours of fun with a model type, who actually was a model a few years ago, (so she says) Ivanna.
Stopped here last night with my buddy. I used to like this place a lot when it first opened. It is still nice and low pressure, and Bobby is a great host (and also speaks perfect English) And there are still lots of very beautiful girls, though for some reason it was a little dead at about 12:30am on a Friday. Monday is a holiday, so perhaps that has something to do with it?
Anyway, I still like the place, but, perhaps following in the footsteps of so many mongers before me (513, actually) I have grown weary of the Recoleta club scene. It seems to get more expensive every time I come down. We paid 45 pesos for entrance, which includes a drink, so that's 5 pesos more than last June.
A very beautiful woman from Uruguay with a body I would give an 8.5 chatted me up. She used to work for Black and said that she quit because of the pressure there to hard sell customers expensive drinks. I heard a similar story from another girl in this same club in June, and turns out (of course) this one knows the other one, who, by the way, has since gone back to work at Black.
I explained to her that I was just window shopping and basically tired of going to expensive clubs and picking up expensive women without really knowing ahead of time if I was going to be in for a good experience or a bad one. She reassured me that she understood completely, and her goal was to make me feel great and she was not a clock watcher, etc., etc. We parted, and then my wingman expressed shock that I wasn't taking her out. Did I say her body was an 8.5? Maybe it was a 9. She was pretty hot.
After a bit I leaned over to her and asked her how much she would need to go home with me. I wasn't making an offer, I just wanted to see what the starting price would be. $200 USD. Uh huh. I didn't bother to counter offer. I think quoting me the standard Black price after the story about what a simpatica she was pretty much says everything. Maybe she needs to go back to work at Black!
To my surprise, a girl from a previous visit then came up to me. I say surprise, because I thought she was mad at me after the last time I saw her in January, and also because I'm so used to these girls moving around the clubs and changing their cell phones so often, I just assumed she wouldn't be working there anymore. But she still does works there and still has the same cell phone number.
She seemed very happy to see me. I bought her a drink for old times' sake (70 pesos) and got her number. I may hook up with her later in my trip.
La Lopez celebrated it's one year anniversary on Thursday night. A free drink to invitees, the chicas were all dressed in ball gown type party dresses, gold balloons, great light show and later a live band. By midnight the place was packed and for the most part everyone was hanging out enjoying a good looking party.
Of course the chica drink prices were in effect, 70 pesos to 140 pesos, and the chicas were "available". The leap in drink prices for chicas is a recent and unfortunate leap towards Black pricing. This is THE best club scene in BsAs currently IMHO. They've really created a plush atmosphere, everything clean and in good working order, the staff is universally friendly and seem to be more about service and attention to customers than pushing for drinks. The woman who bartends will serve you a cortado and likely not charge, and she's more than once made sure I knew the price of the drink a chica wanted to order before going forward with making and serving it. Oh yes, and the chica selection can be stellar and there are always some new faces.
The basement price on chicas is 300 pesos. I've never found one that would go under. A lamentable situation but I guess it goes with the new territory of comparative pricing as if they were living somewhere else. Fortunately there's plenty of grist for the mill outside the major clubs so you can enjoy the atmosphere here and take something home from elsewhere.
and of course the house dog.Was she sitting on Exon's lap?
for some reason it was a little dead at about 12:30am on a Friday. Monday is a holiday, so perhaps that has something to do with it?
Indirectly, perhaps. The largest portion of the clientele of these places are not foreign tourists, but Argentine businessmen. Their biggest nights are Monday through Thursday, weekends being much slower when husbands typically don't have the "working late at the office/taking the new client out for dinner" excuse. Weeknights are for carousing, weekends for la familia.
Member #4112
10-17-07, 14:50
The tall dark haired bartender's name is Monica. Her husband is one of the floor guys. Monica is a great person and makes sure you know what you are getting before you buy. If you need a recommendation for a chica, she can usually hook you up with what you want.
She use to work at Madaho but she and her husband moved over when La Lopez opened. Great girl IMHO.
Goshdarnit, Doppelganger, you had introduced me to her, and when I went in there I felt stupid for not remembering her name. Don't know if she remembered I was your wingman for a few times.
I'll say hi to her for you if I go back in there. But I may not; it's getting so darned expensive.
Member #3314
11-02-07, 13:29
After I had a bad time at Hippopatamus and it was 3:30 I needed a chica but did not want to pay for any more entrance drinks.
At La Lopez you can always get a free look so I walked 2 blocks for the peek.
The guy remembered me from 6 months ago and he let me and another board member in for a look.
We were in there for 20 minutes. My amigo could not close the deal and was tired so he went home for bed.
I started talking to this girl, she was 6 foot 2 in fuck me pumps. Tall girls with big hooters are my weakness. The dark bedroom eyes closed the deal.
At this point I realized that I had been there for about a half hour, closed the deal without buying a drink, or paying to get in.
I bought her a drink and we left. 300p TLN. I was in here about a week and a half ago I was in here and banged a Dominican. She told this chica I was no problem, and things got better very quickly for me.
She goes to change and comes back in this save the planet t-shirt that is super thin, I get wood from it in the club. We left without me paying cover or buying myself a drink.
The sexo was very good with this girl. She had 4 outfits in her bag and did some modeling for me at my place.
She left at about 9 am after taking care of the morning wood. This girl is made for spooning.
I have more pics for the private gallery ill put them up when I get a break from fucking. She was not shy for the camera.
Member #3314
11-05-07, 04:16
I was walking by with no intention of going in and the guy from New Jersey that works there saw me and knows me and knows I wanted to bang some of the hotter dancer girls grabbed me and said he had what I was looking for. The guy had told me on other nights if the dancers would go, other nights he said no. Apparantly the one lesbian show will go, but is only there everynow and then.
Also girls will be fired if you tell the club that they went to your apartment without going through the bar. So don't tell the club you called her up in the afternoon and banged her silly for a few hours before work.
He let me in for free I watched the girl dance and she was smoking hot. I was impressed.
The deal was 100p exit drink, and I gave the girl 500p for 2 pops. She was here a little over 2.5 hours, I got 3 pops and some great sweaty tongue down the throat sex. Sperm management just went out the window. I was going to bang Heidi from AV again in the morning, not now.
She was a solid 9 in my book. I am not really a completo guy but it was on the menu and if I am paying that much I am going to hit it. She did some dancing here at the apartment it was like my personal show. She also had her own toy to play with. We had some DP action going on with the toy going on also.
I have her number, she will TLN no problem as long as she is not at the club. Speaks english and is somewhat intelligent, except when it comes to computers. Read my other posts. This is the kind of girl that you defiantly can take out to dinner, dancing etc.
I will post pics when I am done with it.
Big Boss Man
11-13-07, 13:52
I was not overly impressed with the talent on Monday night but I still found one I liked. Apparently some of you like her too as she had been in the apartment before and knew the doorman. Sandra is a dark-haired Portena with long legs. She is up dancing so she attracts attention. Very good performer.
The Recoleta clubs are not for the bargain-minded. 40 pesos entrance fee and 70 for the chica drink. She left the club for 400 pesos. Of course, she negotiated extras (BBBJ and Anal) when we got back to the apartment for a total of 500. She left her phone number.
I was able to get find chicas for 300 in the Recoleta clubs in August but they were real quickies. When I pay the 400 or 500, at least the two I found on this trip so far (caveats emphasized) are a little more relaxed. They say two hours but it is really 75 to 90 minutes. Fo 300 pesos they are out the apartment in thirty minutes. Also for the 300 I was not able to get BBBJ or anal.
This is probably the second best upscale boliche here, right after Madahos. You can probably get the best bang for your buck here though, as I was able to pull Angie out for 300p TLN, and guys, she is a nymphomaniac. This colombiana could not get enough! She is insatiable and begs for more. In fact, I took her to a swinger's club, and she loved it! And she was a hit there, the couples were lined up! She wants to go back again. The women are top notch and the entertainment is good with a lively ambience. All the chicas are active and love to dance.
Dos Luna
I posted my comparison of Madahos, La Lpoez and Black in the general category. I am posting the link here to avoid cross posting.
http://argentinaprivate.com/forum/s...32&postcount=80
I took out Kimei from La Lopez, she is an Argentina from Tucuman. Mid-twenties, brunette, short, slightly 'thick' but not fat, big natural breasts, attractive face. I offered 400p and she agreed, I likely could have negotiated lower but I didn't care at the time. Had a very good time with her, BBBJ and multiple positions. Was contemplating a titfuck finish but her cowgirl finished me off before I could get there.
Although La Lopez is certainly in the top 3 or 5 of the Recoleta clubs, the quality of the chicas was just 'OK' when I was there. There were a few 8's and maybe one or two 8.5's, but also at least half I would say in the 6-7 range and thus pretty much non-doable for me. There was also one short, fat, middle age woman with frizzy dirty blond hair, I couldn't believe the club was letting her work. I mean she was far and away the most unattractive of all, even a little scary for this type of club.
It seems my blond friend Marisol is no longer working there. But another former Madahos veteran, Ibele the bubbly petite Dominican, is now at La Lopez. She came up to me and we chatted awhile. Later on my way to the men's room I passed her sitting on a guy on a chair and giving him a lap dance like she was riding a bucking bronco. She sees me passing by, we look at each other and start laughing, and she high fives me. Really sweet, fun girl that Ibele.
This one has Rogue tattoo above her butt.
She is a strong chica into martial arts but too much of a pro and too calculative in the service that she renders. It was an unfriendly completo.
I reached out to touch her tits and kiss her in the cab after getting out of the club and she is said "wait baby, not here, in the room". And then I knew what was to come from her demeanor.
She was too much of a pro, dictating terms in the room.
Speaks reasonable english. Definetly pampered and spoiled by the "extranjeros" and lavish regalos.
This one has Rogue tattoo above her butt.
She is a strong chica into martial arts but too much of a pro and too calculative in the service that she renders. It was an unfriendly completo.
I reached out to touch her tits and kiss her in the cab after getting out of the club and she is said "wait baby, not here in the room". And then I knew what was to come from her demeanor.
She was too much of a pro, dictating terms in the room.
Speaks reasonable english. Definetly pampered and spoilt by the "extranjeros" and lavish regalos.Hey lgover, is her name Uma? I fucked this **** from la Lopez about 6 month ago.
Ago. She looks a little more abuse since I last had her.
Does anyone out there believe in a chica aAfter 23 gets any satisfaction in doing what we are doing.
It is all show.
Which chica is the best at this in BA?
Which chica is the best at this in BA?Only in BA, or in the whole Argentina?
Thomaso276
01-05-08, 18:07
Usolo1999: the best chica is
La Lopez got an infusion of new chicas few days ago. This place rocks. At this point the atmosphere, the quality of chicas and service / price ratio beats Madajos by far. Enjoy!
Rockin Bob
04-22-08, 23:30
Monday night, the joint was jumpin. 50 pesos entrada gets you two drinks, and I couldn't negociate anything cheaper.
Mostly Argentine girls, lots of them.
Didn't ask anybody the price, but I would imagine 300 would close the deal. The level of the girls is not Madahos, but there were a few 7's, 8's on hand.
I'd recommend the place as an alternative to Madahos.
Stay away from Play just down the street: read my post on that to find out why.
300 pesos should still be possible at La Lopez.
This is what I paid the last girl I took from here. In fact, she made the initial offer of 300 and I agreed. I was surprised she didn't start with a higher number, but we had a good chemistry and maybe she really needed the money.
SmokersRule
05-04-08, 11:38
A number of people report 300p gets them TLN from La Lopez (see below).
Did you get TLN or just an hour?
It was one hour. I didn't attempt to negotiate TLN (almost never do) Also it was earlier in the evening which is my preference. The cheap TLN is better negotiated much later in the night.
MiddleAgeGuy
05-04-08, 18:05
I have frequented this establishment a number of times, Monica the bar tender being a nice helpful person. You could ask her and she would tell you the rules I am sure, just so you know what you are up against.
It is some kind of formulae of how late it is and how many drinks you have bought the girl. Similar to many clubs. After 3am or 3:30, I think most places let them go without returning. Do not expect TLN if you leave early. I pulled a real gem out of there a while back, agreed 2 hrs, and we both rather lost track of time and she got into a panic to get back without being fined / fired, whatever, as it was a bit more than 2 hrs.
I was thinking of asking the bartender on the girls behalf if management would be OK with girls staying with me for TLN if they wished, without fining them as a number would like to stay. If you become a rather regular customer, bring people in, I would think the management would be OK with it. I would not even ask otherwise. Alas, the last gem left for greener pastures, (via email) My phone book seems to be working good and my pockets a little thin so I might try the bartender request another time.
MAG
Go there early when its super slow. Ask the mgr to take a look first and then say maybe you'll come back later. Thats when he gave me a VIP card which I assume means no door fee / drink required.
Island Phil
05-16-08, 11:44
Went in last Saturday (10th) with a couple of new folks. Monica was not behind the bar. As usual, I was let in without cover, with the two newbies, but bartendress charged me 50p for each beer, and told me all beers would be 50p each and this was policy. Needless to say we voted with our feet.
Has this happened to anybody else, or was something strage going on last Saturday? I would hate to cross off La Lopez, but this was disappointing.
Nope, nothing special was going on, the place is going the way of the others, up selling. I had probably the worst experience ever with a chica there about a week ago. If anyone goes into Lopez and meets a really cute blond that used to work at Shampoo (or Black depending on who you ask) run away as fast as possible. She uses the name of Lolli.
She literally did absolutely nothing except pose for a few photos and order room service while I was showering. Then she said she was too sad, because she was thinking about her "baby".
Talking about a "woody killer"! I am not a violent person at all, but that was about as close as I have ever come to beating the crap out of a female. I really wanted to hurt her, I was pissed. I may go back to Lopez and talk to Bobby, but I hope I see her with a potential client, I am going to walk straight over to him and tell him to walk away. I can't wait to see the look on her face when I tell him that she talks a lot, but doesn't perform very well. With a little luck, it will be a small measure of revenge.
I will try to post a picture soon. By the way she works with a big busted brunette.
That sucks, thanks for giving us the heads up on this dud.
There is another thing you could do. Say you're talking with another chica in the club, and you shift the conversation to her interest in leaving with you, and she is interested. You can ask "You're not going to order room service, are you?". This should elicit a strange look, or laugh, or both. Then you add "I went with another girl from this club, a rubia named Lolli (point to her if she's around) and when I was in the shower she ordered room service. I couldn't believe it. And her service was awful. All she wanted to do is talk about her baby. Worst experience I ever had." Good odds this info will spread to the other chicas in the club.
Stopped here the other night. 50AR entrada with a beer included in that price. I liked the setup which had a stage and ample room to move around. 16 chicas in attendance. The best I saw was about a 6.5. Many 5's. Hey, what's the hype all about? One chica sitting next to me was a 6. I asked about the programa if I took her out. 90AR chica drink and 600Ar for her for one hour. You have to be kidding me. We left after 10 minutes. I have seen better in the privados for 100AR.
They all start with 600 pesos with people who appear tourists - got to have some understanding for them as well. I never pay more than 400 pesos and duration lasts from one hour to the whole day. Good thing about La Lopez is that one often can walk in without cover charge. Quality of girls varies a lot from day to day.
Two posts on this place in the last six months ??
I was in here a couple nights recently. Entrance fee is now 60 pesos. Chica's drinks are 100 pesos. 1 chica drink to leave with the girl. Selection both nights was down from what I have seen in the past, both in terms of quantity and quality. About 15 chicas most in the 6-7 range and maybe a couple 8's. IMO still a good place to find a hidden gem at a better price than some of the other Recoleta clubs.
Bobby, english-speaking friend to many mongers since his days at Madahos is no longer working here since a couple months. Anyone know what Bobby is up to? I hope he is doing well.
There is one girl here who is probably an 8.5. Her name is Abril, blond, slim, big breasts, definately hot. I spotted her right away and she was solo, but I took my time looking around and another guy got her first. Someone please check her out and report back!
I was not disappointed though, as the girl I did end up taking out gave one of the best deepthroat bbbj I've ever had (top 10 at least). I can post more info on her if there is any interest.
Stan Da Man
12-23-08, 14:15
I can't add much but would agree with this Esten's assessment -- La Lopez has declined a bit. I was in this place three times in November and both quality and quantity had suffered. Don't bother going here before midnight as there is virtually no one working. After midnight, you could expect 15-20 chicas, most of whom are in the 5-7 range.
By comparison, last July there were around 30-40 girls on a decent night, with a fair smattering of 7s and 8s. I don't know whether it's seasonal or just an aberration, but I would agree that things seem to have changed.
I had heard that Bobby was a part-owner of this place and asked him about it last July. He said this was absolutely untrue, and he seemed kind of down. Bobby wasn't working when I was there in November and I was told he was "sick." Of course, that's what you would expect to hear if he'd moved on to a new club. I have also heard that this club is hurting and that its owners are looking to sell or do something. They invested a lot of money in infrastructure and sound system. If Bobby's no longer working at La Lopez, I wonder where he'll end up. I don't think he can go back to Madaho's. Perhaps we'll see him at Black some day.
The roster here may appeal to some mongers more than others. In November, the working girls were about 40% - 50% black. The girls are also a bit more hungry and a bit more aggressive than in other places.
I would really like to see this place get back on track. It was a good change of pace and showed some promise last July. If Bobby's gone, though, it's probably moving in the other direction.
Two posts on this place in the last six months?
I was in here a couple nights recently. Entrance fee is now 60 pesos. Chica's drinks are 100 pesos. 1 chica drink to leave with the girl. Selection both nights was down from what I have seen in the past, both in terms of quantity and quality. About 15 chicas most in the 6-7 range and maybe a couple 8's. IMO still a good place to find a hidden gem at a better price than some of the other Recoleta clubs.
Bobby, english-speaking friend to many mongers since his days at Madahos is no longer working here since a couple months. Anyone know what Bobby is up to? I hope he is doing well.
Thomaso276
12-23-08, 15:24
Reasons for downturn.
- Did they price themselves out of the market?
- Did all the good looking girls make enuff in a year or two to retire?
- Did mgt. run them out with too many rules?
- Did a mgt. split - power struggle - cause problems?
I wonder if El Alamo can buy this place cheap!
Not long after La Lopez opened I recall talking with Bobby about his extent of involvement. He was careful with his words and never said directly, but clearly indicated to me it was within the realm of possibility that something more could develop (more than just working as a waiter). Maybe he left because that didn't happen. I have a feeling we will see him again sometime, somewhere.
I wonder if El Alamo can buy this place cheap!It would be interesting if someone friendly with the board/local posters bought the place and worked to make it a success. Kind of like Gysell does with her place - posting info, line-ups and photos and working with us to make us happy. Except with a night club. If the quality and selection of chicas was good, prices reasonable, with an enforced code of conduct on customer satisfaction, I would certainly spend my time and money in such a place.
I can't say there is one really good night club in BA. Meaning high quality and selection, but good prices and good customer service. Some places have the quality but not the prices. Others have the quality and the price but not the service. Others have the price but not the quality. Etc. Shampoo and La Lopez used to be the top contenders for the best such club, in my opinion, but they have declined. They are still good for finding a hidden gem or two, but I'd like to see them get back to their former glory, filled with lots of good looking girls but with prices lower than Madahos and Black.
Daddy Rulz
12-24-08, 02:15
It would be interesting if someone friendly with the board / local posters bought the place and worked to make it a success. Kind of like Gysell does with her place - posting info, line-ups and photos and working with us to make us happy. Except with a night club. If the quality and selection of chicas was good, prices reasonable, with an enforced code of conduct on customer satisfaction, I would certainly spend my time and money in such a place.
I can't say there is one really good night club in BA. Meaning high quality and selection, but good prices and good customer service. Some places have the quality but not the prices. Others have the quality and the price but not the service. Others have the price but not the quality. Etc. Shampoo and La Lopez used to be the top contenders for the best such club, in my opinion, but they have declined. They are still good for finding a hidden gem or two, but I'd like to see them get back to their former glory, filled with lots of good looking girls but with prices lower than Madahos and Black.Hot chics go where the money is.
Hot chics go where the money is.I agree it's hard.
But sometimes individual (and hot) chicas with a good business sense will ask a competitive rate and give very good service. They have found they make a lot more this way than holding out for higher prices and getting fewer customers.
Also for these clubs, I remember times when I went in Shampoo and La Lopez and there were dozens of chicas in the 7.5 - 8.5 range I was interested in and you knew you could likely bargain at least 100 pesos lower than Madahos. I wonder where they all went. Maybe it's just the time of year.
Gato Hunter
02-25-09, 11:36
This used to be one of my favorite places at night. The manager Bobby is gone now.
I tried to walk in past the door man like I always have, they got pissed when I said I was looking for Bobby. I knew that he was not there but I wanted to see the reaction. They told me he was on vacation.
I had a 2 minute free look and the place was empty with mostly 6's and a few worse.
I got the bad clip joint feeling talking to the goons, I did not see the engish speaking hot bartender either.
This used to be one of my favorite places at night. The manager Bobby is gone now.
I tried to walk in past the door man like I always have, they got pissed when I said I was looking for Bobby. I knew that he was not there but I wanted to see the reaction. They told me he was on vacation.
I had a 2 minute free look and the place was empty with mostly 6's and a few worse.
I got the bad clip joint feeling talking to the goons, I did not see the engish speaking hot bartender either.This place is very hit or miss lately. Some nights there are some hot chicas and I have yet to be hit up for an entry charge. Other nights, close to nothing.
I stopped by because one of my regular girls works there and she asked me to do so repeatedly. This place looks like it is ready to go out of business.
No admission fee; 60 pesos for bottled water; and 100 pesos chica drink.
My chica as me to put on a show because the owner was there. He came over to say hello and offerred to buy me a drink and actually sat down to talk.
Monica the bartender, originally from Madahos, had recognized my face. He asked me why no one was coming in there. I told him the truth--the prices.
He said that he is encouraging the girls to charge less. Cluless. Great pole dancer gets a 10 pesos tip from me--after all I'm getting a private show from what would be an A girl anywhere in the world. Then Claudio the owner tells me that he is taking over the old Affair location on Guido to be a pub w / less expense and lower prices.
My little girls says thank you for blowing the 160 pesos and talking to the owner. She wants to go to the new pub and get out of Las Lopez. She'll do me before work for 200 pesos to make-pup for the 160 peso bite.
Maybe 12 girls there Tuesday 1:30am. 4 or 5 tempting the rest you could do better at the triangle. I was one of three customers in the place. My friend said that they may start at 500 or us$200, but will take 300 pesos.
Things are real slow.
Member #4112
06-03-09, 19:03
What happened to La Lopez, use to be a great place last year?
Glad to hear Monica is still there.
Stan Da Man
06-05-09, 17:41
I stopped by because one of my regular girls works there and she asked me to do so repeatedly. This place looks like it is ready to go out of business.
No admission fee; 60 pesos for bottled water; and 100 pesos chica drink.
My chica as me to put on a show because the owner was there. He came over to say hello and offerred to buy me a drink and actually sat down to talk.
Monica the bartender, originally from Madahos, had recognized my face. He asked me why no one was coming in there. I told him the truth--the prices.
He said that he is encouraging the girls to charge less. Cluless. Great pole dancer gets a 10 pesos tip from me--after all I'm getting a private show from what would be an A girl anywhere in the world. Then Claudio the owner tells me that he is taking over the old Affair location on Guido to be a pub w / less expense and lower prices.
My little girls says thank you for blowing the 160 pesos and talking to the owner. She wants to go to the new pub and get out of Las Lopez. She'll do me before work for 200 pesos to make-pup for the 160 peso bite.
Maybe 12 girls there Tuesday 1:30am. 4 or 5 tempting the rest you could do better at the triangle. I was one of three customers in the place. My friend said that they may start at 500 or us$200, but will take 300 pesos.
Things are real slow.I've made it a point to stop by this place the last few times through town, and it's obvious that there is a funeral dirge waiting to happen. Last time I was told (not by the owners of La Lopez) that some Arabs were planning to buy La Lopez and turn it into something completely private -- a harem of some sort. Obviously that didn't happen.
I have to disagree with you about what the cause of the demise is, though. It's not price. If that were true, then Black and Madaho's would have gone under. Last time I was there, Black had definitely recovered, and Madaho's was still going strong. The gals in those places charge double what the gals in La Lopez charge, and they're thriving.
What's killing La Lopez is two things, in my opinion:
(1) No Bobby. Once he quit, they lost any of the quasi- high rollers he used to be able to get in the door. One of the gals told me a saying the girls have. It may be common but it was new to me: "No hombre tengo hambre." (Loosely translated: "No man means I go hungry.") That's part of what's going on. The great decline at La Lopez really started to accelerate when Bobby left -- no high roller dudes and many of the chicas took off.
(2) Hippopotamus. That place has resurfaced. It is certainly no Black or Madaho's, but it definitely competes in the same space as La Lopez is trying to compete. It's a nice, well-appointed club that tries to appeal to a slightly more upscale clientele. They seemed to be doing a decent job of that last April, when I passed by. The chicas were not to my liking. Most harken to the place's namesake -- Hippo -- but if you like 'em big them Hippo is for you.
Just my two cents, but I really don't think price is what's keeping the normal La Lopez clientele away. If anything, the prices have gone down dramatically since last summer when the place was rocking. There's just not much quality or selection there anymore and, I would submit, it's for the above two reasons.
Gato Hunter
11-20-09, 16:00
It was not open last night on a Thursday.
MiddleAgeGuy
11-20-09, 16:06
I was by Newport last week, looking toward La Lopez and there was a lot of construction at the mall. Then, 3 gals, hawking tickets to Hippo came by, one I had taken from Lopez a couple years ago, who told me La Lopez was closed.
Never did walk down that far to confirm.
I hope it isn't closed. The Recoleta scene has suffered enough with the closing of Solid Gold and Shampoo!! Those were fine places. RIP.
Plus, one of my favorites is from La Lopez but I don't have her phone number! Took her out twice a few weeks ago. And there was another girl there I wanted to do as well.
Gato Hunter
11-21-09, 11:38
It was dark again last night and if you look at the building it looks as if the glass on the front wall has been recently vandalized.
Gauntlet77
12-12-09, 01:06
Walked by last night and it was open for business.
The bad news is that they are asking 150 peso entrada!
There was a bairesgirls.com.ar "MEGAFIESTA FIN DE AN0 2009" event at La Lopez on Thursday Dec. 10. The entry fee was 150 pesos. I had a quick look but didn't stay, it was packed. Never saw so many people in that club! Looked like more guys than girls. I met an independant from bairesgirls the day after, she said there were maybe 60 guys and 40 chicas. She said it was funny she knew most of the guys there (i.e. past clients).
I don't know if La Lopez is otherwise still open.
This thread seems to have been left hanging, but I went to take a look for myself when I was in Bs As a month or so back. The place does seem to have closed down – on the nights I walked past, the shutters were down, although the La Lopez signwriting was still visible.
Early one Friday evening, I happened to be going by and saw the door was open. Some guys were carrying in equipment and sound system components etc. I asked the man who seemed to be supervising the operation whether the club was re-opening. He told me it was just for a "fiesta privada" and we reminisced a little about how things had changed in the area.
La Lopez was a club I liked a lot. The layout inside was good, you could move around easily, the chicas had space to dance and it never got as smoky as some of the other boliches. I first heard about the place on recommendation from an ex La Lopez girl who was working in one of the clubs in Chile. A blonde with blue streaked hair, wearing an electric blue dress and matching accessories – she looked like a girl from another universe and we went into orbit back at my apartment. Some of the smarter Argentinas travel over to Santiago or Viña for the season, where the money is a lot better than they'd get in Bs As, Cordoba, Mendoza etc. These girls (and the Peruanas doing the same thing) are worth checking out, as they're never in a hurry to get back to their temporary lodgings and a short outing can become a TLN and more the next day if you treat them well.
Checking back through the thread, nobody seemed to pick up on Esten's request as below:
There is one girl here who is probably an 8.5. Her name is Abril, blond, slim, big breasts, definately hot. I spotted her right away and she was solo, but I took my time looking around and another guy got her first. Someone please check her out and report back!File this under reminiscences, but I do remember this chica Abril. She was the stand-out girl when I visited the club maybe two years ago. Blonde, slim, definitely an 8 or 8.5, beautiful legs in a short tight skirt, don't remember the big breasts so maybe a later add-on? She saw me watching her as she was dancing with a couple of her mates and came over to say hello. For whatever reason I didn't go with her that night but managed to get her telephone number, as she seemed keen to hook up. The following night I rang her and persuaded her to meet up in one of the terrace bars in Recoleta. She was worried I'd stand her up and I wasn't sure if she would show, but she came along more or less on time and we shared a pizza and some drinks. Nice down to earth young porteña chica, probably not too long in the boliche scene, we talked about her previous life helping out in a small family business. Took her to the telo as I was staying in a cheap and grotty hotel in centro. I'd asked her to bring along the outfit I'd seen her in at the club, which she did, along with another one that was even hotter. Can't remember the specifics of what we did, or the numbers involved. Had to work a little harder than usual to get her turned on but it was a good outing and I was left satisfied. She told me that she'd enjoyed going out with a caballero and wanted to repeat the following night, but I was heading off to another place in a couple of days and couldn't program it in. Never saw her again – she wasn't at the club when I returned on my next visit and I don't use phone numbers after a long gap. Nice girl, I wonder what she's doing now. I appreciate this info is of no value after so much time's gone by, but thanks anyway for reminding me about Abril.
At the risk of rambling on (serious mongers need read no further) there's a sequel to my chat outside the club that Friday. Same night, much later on, I've just come out of Plays around 2:30 am (see separate post) and I'm walking back to try my luck in Newport and Hippo. As I pass La Lopez, I notice there's an event going on and the guy on the gate stops me and asks if I want to come in. The entry is 40 pesos including drink and the guy tells me "fiesta, buena musica, muchas chicas" etc. As my curiosity had been aroused by the earlier chat, I agree to go in. It's a fancy dress party, with a film actors theme "de pelicula", organised by some outfit Cacho de Fiesta. There are photos of it up on their facebook site. Lots of pirates, witches, cowgirls etc. The club interior looks much the same as I remembered it, and I hang around at the bar with my cocktail, doing a lousy Pierce Brosnan 007 impression. After the dead atmosphere at Plays, it felt good to be in with some local people having fun (and able to have fun without needing to get drunk) In a group of chicas dancing, I spot a Penelope Cruz lookalike, scarlet blouse and tight skirt, definitely a 9, and I'm reduced to staring. Where I'm from, the girls normally move away if you catch their eye, but here, they just carry on and actually move in closer. They're too wrapped up in themselves though for me to make a move, and I eventually decide I'm enjoying this far too much, my monger status is under serious threat, and I bail out, off into the night to continue my quest for that elusive perfect 10.
Thanks for the report on Abril! Last time I was in La Lopez this past December I did not see her. She's probably gone but you never know. In December I bumped into Kimei, a chica I had taken out of La Lopez back in 2007.
I seem to have an odd pattern with this club. Every time in BA I feel a 'monger duty' to make at least one visit here, to support this club, because the staff have always been good to me, the facility is upscale and I think it's important to help keep other clubs in business and not just spend all my money at one club like Madahos.
Anyways, each time I have come here the past few years it is always the same - a few chicas and even fewer customers. A couple times I was the only customer. But each time I've always found one chica here who was attractive and gave great service - so good that I repeated with her. This has been true for three trips now - each trip I sessioned twice/repeated with a La Lopez chica, but it was a different chica on each trip. Always paid 400. And with the lower drink prices it was a better deal than Madahos.
So La Lopez may not be a happening place anymore, but I've found it to be a great place to find gems.
Art Vandalay
07-08-10, 07:17
It seems La Lopez may have closed down. I walked past the location a couple times this week and both times the metal security gate was down and it doesn't appear to be in business anymore.
Can anyone confirm?
Art Vandalay
07-09-10, 14:45
It seems La Lopez may have closed down. I walked past the location a couple times this week and both times the metal security gate was down and it doesn't appear to be in business anymore.
Can anyone confirm?Disregard my last post. I went by La Lopez last night and it's alive and well. In fact, last night it seemed more like a regular nightclub rather than, well, you know.
The dancefloor was packed around 4:30am. There were tons of guys and girls. I'm not sure if all of the girls were working though. Seemed like some were there just to dance and have fun. Is this a change in type of venue or just the fact that the next day was a holiday?
Walked past La Lopez on my way to Madahos on Thursday and noticed that the place was open. Carried on walking but made a mental note to check it out another night.
Returned on Friday night around 2:30 am and went in. Waste of time – about five guys and three or four (not very attractive) chicas. I walked straight out again (luckily they hadn't charged me at the door) .
From my last post and Art's more recent input, I'm guessing they hold occasional one-off 'normal nightclub' events and are now back to opening during the week as a mongering venue. I'll keep an eye on it over the next few days, but on Friday's experience I'd have to say that it's currently an 'avoid' place. Or at least I'd suggest you all insist on taking a look inside before parting with any cash.
Was in La Lopez Saturday night and concur with Lucas' assessment. Three customers (in a group) and three chicas at the bar in the 5-7 range.
Apparently La Lopez was closed for several months and just re-opened last week.
When I arrived, the doorman and a hot blonde were standing outside the club. I chatted them up, the doorman remember me and introduced me to the blonde. I went in with her and we sat down. Her name was Sol, attractive face, big tits pushed up in her tight dress (really, fantastic cleavage), white skin, body just a tad thick. I was definately interested in her and didn't waste time offering to buy her a drink. But it was not to be.... she seemed only half interested, and I soon found out she was a dancer. We hung out for maybe 10 minutes, she took a few sips of her drink, then went off to prepare for her dance. I hadn't had time to discuss taking her out, and no idea if she would have been interested. I stuck around another hour watching 2 brunette dancers, then Sol dance. That being at least half an hour later, she could have stayed with me longer. In her bikini Sol still looked good, but with a bit more cellulite than I had realized, which brought her down a notch. After the dancers were finished I left. Paid 80 pesos my drink, 110 pesos chica drink.
I have been able to find gems in La Lopez year after year, but not this time. Maybe Sol would have worked out, but I didn't sense much interest on her part, and I lost interest. Both the waiter and the doorman said the dancers are available for take-out, or at least some of them. The brunette dancers were pretty hot. I would say at this time, the dancers could be an option at La Lopez, but probably better catching them after they have danced. Cost is one 250 peso drink to take a dancer out.
Greetings everyone,
I live right around the corner from La Lopez, so I pass the place all the time.
The club as we knew it has been closed for a couple of months now.
However, it appears that a new lease holder has recently re-opened it as a regular bar, sans any self-employed chicas.
Thanks,
Jackson
Member #4112
01-25-11, 20:56
I dropped by and spoke with Monica the original bartender and husband last week. The bar is open and there were a few chicas working, but nothing as in its hey day.
Monica is back tending the bar and her husband is working the door as before. She told me they opened over a month ago. Saturday night there were kids out the door and down the street trying to get in, so it does appear it may have changed format at least on that night, no tables on the floor except in the back so maybe a kids dance place some nights?
WorldTravel69
06-27-17, 18:15
No longer exist, confirmed by two meseros in regular bar in same area, called Silver Pub.
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