Jayf1970
01-17-07, 15:06
After having visited the mongering destinations of the world, including the heaven of Rio several times, I had the itch to try a new place. The problem is Rio spoils you so much that it becomes difficult to find anything comparable.
Well, I am glad I visited BA. I found the women almost as hot. They have less of that uninhibitedness / raw character that brasilieras have, but only slightly so. BA is a more cultured city. Its virtually crime free.
On to some specific observations / incidents from my trip, in no particular order:
1. I think mongering in BA can be cheaper - you can get ugly privados girls starting 40 pesos (I have been told) you can get decent privados girls for 100 - 200 pesos, you can get a girl from one of the triangle clubs to go to your hotel with you for 200 - 300 pesos (including the cost of one drink for you and her, which is the minimum) you can get a Madahos girl to go home with you for 300 - 400 pesos (again, includes cost of 1 drink each) or a girl from Black for 400 - 500 pesos (including drink each, again) All in all, if you are planning to be here for 1-2 weeks and have limited time, not sure it'd work out much cheaper than Rio.
I *will* throw out a disclaimer that I'm not the best judge of price / value, because after having spent $1000 on ticket and $500 on a week's stay, I usually don't skimp on the $ I spend on chicas. That doesn't mean I will spend more than whats standard at any given club, but I will choose my places to monger such that I don't sacrifice the quality. For example, I almost never visit coffee shops unless I have no choice.
2. Sundays in BA are *very* slow for mongering. There were 3 old hags at Catto's and one at Hook. Excedra, Orleans and New Port were either deserted or only had dogs. Had I known this, I'd have taken this into account while planning my trip.
3. There is no BA equivalent of the great carioca institution of the Termas.
4. Make sure you use the services of Roxane (for translation and arranging dates from escort sites) and Ana Luna (for transportation from airport) They are well worth every penny. Mariana (Roxane's assistant) got me Julie from platynum. Com. Br for 200 pesos for 1 hour. I have never been to their website. I described what I wanted and Marianna arranged everything for US$10. It was great. Julie was a little spaced out, but had a good body and provided good service.
5. The microcenter pubs were deserted on the two days (Saturday and Sunday) I went there, so my observations might not represent the norm, but I thought they were certainly downscale compared to the recoleta clubs, but you can still get girls as hot as anywhere else. Not sure if there's any difference in the quality of services received after take-out.
6. Had the most GFE experience of my moderately prolific mongering life at Salome. After being disappointed roaming the boliches and cafes till 3am, I ended up at Salome's. Its an interesting place. Jackson lists it under clubs, but its not like the rest of the clubs in that it does not have chica drinks and bar fines. In any case, even at Salome the talent didn't look promising. I was cursing my luck for having taken this 10 hour plane ride to be disappointed like this. In walks a chick a with flowy miniskirt. You know how it is when you go to a bar with a bunch of friends (or with a girl friend if you're unlucky) and there is this one chick who is wearing a skimpy mini-skirt and tearing up the dance floor. She leaves no red-blooded hetero (hell, probably even homo) male in the room without a hardon. You just want to push her against the wall, lift that skirt up and ram her from behind so hard she can't even scream. Well, Romina was that cocktease. Every guy in the place had his eyes on her. I was standing in a corner of the basement, never for a second taking my eyer off of her. She never directly looked at me. After about 45 minutes of dancing, she walks straight to me and says lets go. No introductions, no hi-hello. Just lets go. So we head upstairs for a drink with her amiga. They were really into each other and asked me if I wanted them both. That would have been great, except, unfortunately, her amiga was a hag. So anyway, we head out of their in a Taxi after I quickly confirm 150 (me - 100, she - 200, settle at 150) for short time. We kissed all the way to the hotel in the cab. After getting to the room, I did exactly what I had pictured in the club, I pushed her head down on he mattress, lifted her skirt and had my way with her (after a shower break, of course. I appreciate those, but they just take so much away from the mood) This hottie was sharp and knew how to please a man. We got along really well. I told her she dances well and it was really sexy. She said she was putting up a show for me. She gave me her number and told me to call her if I was around for another week. She was from paraguay and lives / has a son somewhere 2 hrs away from BA (borealis?
7. I found that anal was not as standard on the menu in BA. In Rio, on my last visit, I talked to 12 garotas. Only 1 said no to anal (interestingly, 2 said no to bbbj) In BA, out of the 7 I have talked to, two were ready for it.ç
8. Girls will routinely promise and refuse to deliver under the disguise of not understanding. Try to be as specific as possible when you negotiate.
9. Make a promise to yourself that you'll refuse any service that someone comes offering to you. Turn down the touts who promise live nude girls - 'just look, no problema'. You go inside and before you know it, you're out of 100 pesos. Guys who offer to find you taxi - they want a tip and the cab is typically not a meter cab. Chicas who walk up to you in clubs and keep pestering for drinks. Politely refuse them all and choose your own. The only exception, probably, is if you're chatting with a chica in a club for a while and then she asks you for a drink.
10. I was pretty satisfied with the Wilton Hotel. Good value for money. The hotel staff are not at their most pleasant self when they see you bring chicas in, but never created a real issue. It is, however, a little far from the action and the 5-15 peso cab rides add up quickly.
11. There's no point wasting your money at Black's, except in one instance - things are really slow everywhere else and you don't mind settling for a cold classy chick for a lot of $. BA confirmed whats turned out to be the most predictable trend - the most expensive establishment in town is guaranteed not to produce the best experience. In other places, however, one has to make an obligatory trip to such places. Posseidon in BKK is to mongering what Macy's New York is to malls. Its a massage superstore - possibly the biggest one in the world. My experience there was not the best, but I was glad I made the trip. Centaurus in Rio, similar story. Not the best experience, but you got to go there once to see and experience the drop dead georgeous supermodels even though they are colder than the chicas at other Termas. Black, not so. Don't waste your money going there. You will find girls as hot at other Recoleta clubs for significantly lower price. 75% of the chicas at black were silicone infused.
12. Tried the 1707 Santa Fe Apt 3 privado. Went there at 4pm on Tuesday. There were only 3 chicas 6-7. They were all cold during introductions and displayed no eagerness to be with me. Karina was lukewarm and had decent body, so I went with her. Ok experience, worth the money. 120 pesos + 30 extra for bbbj. The place has a roadside motel quality to it - paint chipping at the walls, water seeping thru the walls, sheets that leave you wondering whether they laundered since they were last used.
13. The club scene starts very late - 11pm is the absolute earliest you want to go. Midnight is really when it starts going. Too late for me. The microcenter clubs might get going a little earlier.
14. Leather shopping - place to go is 500 - 700 block of Murrillo. 666 Murillo, which is recommended elsewhere on the board, I found to be a much overpriced compared to other places, but might be worth it if quality is reliable. I was surprised that almost none of the shops on Murrillo carry shoes. There is one shop close by called Norwich at the intersection of Scalabrini Ortiz and Padilla, which does, but I wasn't too impressed with the offerings.
15. There are sex shops scattered around town. One is on Corrientes in an arcade (shop doesn't face the street) right next to the Opera place and opposite the American Truck. Haven't been inside one to see what they offer.
16. Try to make it to the pool party at the mansion. Was a pleasure meeting likeminded hobbyists - the Captain, daddyrulez, the french guy (sorry, forgot your screenname) tangomaniac and others.
Overall, purely from a mongering perspective, I find Rio to be the best. Those garotas with asses so tight you can crack a nut, those Termas's, the bikinis on the beach. Mongering / sex is in the air in Copacabana. Buenos Aires, however, is definitely a solid second.
Well, I am glad I visited BA. I found the women almost as hot. They have less of that uninhibitedness / raw character that brasilieras have, but only slightly so. BA is a more cultured city. Its virtually crime free.
On to some specific observations / incidents from my trip, in no particular order:
1. I think mongering in BA can be cheaper - you can get ugly privados girls starting 40 pesos (I have been told) you can get decent privados girls for 100 - 200 pesos, you can get a girl from one of the triangle clubs to go to your hotel with you for 200 - 300 pesos (including the cost of one drink for you and her, which is the minimum) you can get a Madahos girl to go home with you for 300 - 400 pesos (again, includes cost of 1 drink each) or a girl from Black for 400 - 500 pesos (including drink each, again) All in all, if you are planning to be here for 1-2 weeks and have limited time, not sure it'd work out much cheaper than Rio.
I *will* throw out a disclaimer that I'm not the best judge of price / value, because after having spent $1000 on ticket and $500 on a week's stay, I usually don't skimp on the $ I spend on chicas. That doesn't mean I will spend more than whats standard at any given club, but I will choose my places to monger such that I don't sacrifice the quality. For example, I almost never visit coffee shops unless I have no choice.
2. Sundays in BA are *very* slow for mongering. There were 3 old hags at Catto's and one at Hook. Excedra, Orleans and New Port were either deserted or only had dogs. Had I known this, I'd have taken this into account while planning my trip.
3. There is no BA equivalent of the great carioca institution of the Termas.
4. Make sure you use the services of Roxane (for translation and arranging dates from escort sites) and Ana Luna (for transportation from airport) They are well worth every penny. Mariana (Roxane's assistant) got me Julie from platynum. Com. Br for 200 pesos for 1 hour. I have never been to their website. I described what I wanted and Marianna arranged everything for US$10. It was great. Julie was a little spaced out, but had a good body and provided good service.
5. The microcenter pubs were deserted on the two days (Saturday and Sunday) I went there, so my observations might not represent the norm, but I thought they were certainly downscale compared to the recoleta clubs, but you can still get girls as hot as anywhere else. Not sure if there's any difference in the quality of services received after take-out.
6. Had the most GFE experience of my moderately prolific mongering life at Salome. After being disappointed roaming the boliches and cafes till 3am, I ended up at Salome's. Its an interesting place. Jackson lists it under clubs, but its not like the rest of the clubs in that it does not have chica drinks and bar fines. In any case, even at Salome the talent didn't look promising. I was cursing my luck for having taken this 10 hour plane ride to be disappointed like this. In walks a chick a with flowy miniskirt. You know how it is when you go to a bar with a bunch of friends (or with a girl friend if you're unlucky) and there is this one chick who is wearing a skimpy mini-skirt and tearing up the dance floor. She leaves no red-blooded hetero (hell, probably even homo) male in the room without a hardon. You just want to push her against the wall, lift that skirt up and ram her from behind so hard she can't even scream. Well, Romina was that cocktease. Every guy in the place had his eyes on her. I was standing in a corner of the basement, never for a second taking my eyer off of her. She never directly looked at me. After about 45 minutes of dancing, she walks straight to me and says lets go. No introductions, no hi-hello. Just lets go. So we head upstairs for a drink with her amiga. They were really into each other and asked me if I wanted them both. That would have been great, except, unfortunately, her amiga was a hag. So anyway, we head out of their in a Taxi after I quickly confirm 150 (me - 100, she - 200, settle at 150) for short time. We kissed all the way to the hotel in the cab. After getting to the room, I did exactly what I had pictured in the club, I pushed her head down on he mattress, lifted her skirt and had my way with her (after a shower break, of course. I appreciate those, but they just take so much away from the mood) This hottie was sharp and knew how to please a man. We got along really well. I told her she dances well and it was really sexy. She said she was putting up a show for me. She gave me her number and told me to call her if I was around for another week. She was from paraguay and lives / has a son somewhere 2 hrs away from BA (borealis?
7. I found that anal was not as standard on the menu in BA. In Rio, on my last visit, I talked to 12 garotas. Only 1 said no to anal (interestingly, 2 said no to bbbj) In BA, out of the 7 I have talked to, two were ready for it.ç
8. Girls will routinely promise and refuse to deliver under the disguise of not understanding. Try to be as specific as possible when you negotiate.
9. Make a promise to yourself that you'll refuse any service that someone comes offering to you. Turn down the touts who promise live nude girls - 'just look, no problema'. You go inside and before you know it, you're out of 100 pesos. Guys who offer to find you taxi - they want a tip and the cab is typically not a meter cab. Chicas who walk up to you in clubs and keep pestering for drinks. Politely refuse them all and choose your own. The only exception, probably, is if you're chatting with a chica in a club for a while and then she asks you for a drink.
10. I was pretty satisfied with the Wilton Hotel. Good value for money. The hotel staff are not at their most pleasant self when they see you bring chicas in, but never created a real issue. It is, however, a little far from the action and the 5-15 peso cab rides add up quickly.
11. There's no point wasting your money at Black's, except in one instance - things are really slow everywhere else and you don't mind settling for a cold classy chick for a lot of $. BA confirmed whats turned out to be the most predictable trend - the most expensive establishment in town is guaranteed not to produce the best experience. In other places, however, one has to make an obligatory trip to such places. Posseidon in BKK is to mongering what Macy's New York is to malls. Its a massage superstore - possibly the biggest one in the world. My experience there was not the best, but I was glad I made the trip. Centaurus in Rio, similar story. Not the best experience, but you got to go there once to see and experience the drop dead georgeous supermodels even though they are colder than the chicas at other Termas. Black, not so. Don't waste your money going there. You will find girls as hot at other Recoleta clubs for significantly lower price. 75% of the chicas at black were silicone infused.
12. Tried the 1707 Santa Fe Apt 3 privado. Went there at 4pm on Tuesday. There were only 3 chicas 6-7. They were all cold during introductions and displayed no eagerness to be with me. Karina was lukewarm and had decent body, so I went with her. Ok experience, worth the money. 120 pesos + 30 extra for bbbj. The place has a roadside motel quality to it - paint chipping at the walls, water seeping thru the walls, sheets that leave you wondering whether they laundered since they were last used.
13. The club scene starts very late - 11pm is the absolute earliest you want to go. Midnight is really when it starts going. Too late for me. The microcenter clubs might get going a little earlier.
14. Leather shopping - place to go is 500 - 700 block of Murrillo. 666 Murillo, which is recommended elsewhere on the board, I found to be a much overpriced compared to other places, but might be worth it if quality is reliable. I was surprised that almost none of the shops on Murrillo carry shoes. There is one shop close by called Norwich at the intersection of Scalabrini Ortiz and Padilla, which does, but I wasn't too impressed with the offerings.
15. There are sex shops scattered around town. One is on Corrientes in an arcade (shop doesn't face the street) right next to the Opera place and opposite the American Truck. Haven't been inside one to see what they offer.
16. Try to make it to the pool party at the mansion. Was a pleasure meeting likeminded hobbyists - the Captain, daddyrulez, the french guy (sorry, forgot your screenname) tangomaniac and others.
Overall, purely from a mongering perspective, I find Rio to be the best. Those garotas with asses so tight you can crack a nut, those Termas's, the bikinis on the beach. Mongering / sex is in the air in Copacabana. Buenos Aires, however, is definitely a solid second.