View Full Version : Global Warming: Fact, fad or just a lot of hot air?
I've started this thread to hopefully relocate this topic du jour out of the political arena and into an area to stand on it's own two feet - maybe.
Ok now we are all Officially royally fucked.
I wonder how Buenos Aires will look 20 years from now?
http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/scientists-offer-dire-forecast-for-earth/20070310193709990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
BadI would agree with your assertion that the world is "royally fucked" - but for much different reasons than your article puts forward. I am not a scientist, nor do I play one on televison. But even if I were, and 10,000 of my fellow scientific buddies all believe the same it doesn't make it so. The reason: a lack of long-term data. There are too many theories here for me to quickly jump on the "leaving train".
Answer a question for me:
Would you allow a surgeon to operate on you or an engineer to design an aircraft you were in if they used terms such as: "are likely", "are more likely". I think not. These "scientists" are not much more than witnesses to what is happening - not a lot of accurate predictions going on here (example: "Changes in climate are now affecting physical and biological systems on every continent," the report says, in marked contrast to a 2001 report by the same international group that said the effects of global warming were coming. But that report only mentioned scattered regional effects) And what is this crap: the report says North America "has already experienced substantial ecosystem, social and cultural disruption from recent climate extremes," such as hurricanes and wildfires. Social and CULTURAL disruption? Is this a political statement or what? Let me help the scientific community; 50-75 years ago we did not have huge human tolls in the Gulf states due hurricanes, because the number of people living in effected areas was minimal. Why? No air conditioning; only heat, humidity and mosquitos!
Don't get me wrong, many of these scientists are well-intentioned. But at the end of the day I don't think any of us can materially change what is occurring. This is why:
1. If it is increased solar activity and not man - I believe that is self-explanatory.
2. The world population has doubled in the last 40 years, while the North American population has only increased by 50%. While I choose to believe that man is contributing to the problem - do you see it realistic to reduce the population back to 3.3 billion through political means? Not going to happen!
3. The massive loss of rain forest and other forestry areas will not be reversed. While the Europeans and North Americans may well enforce a ban on rain forest products, the Chinese and Indians have a pocket full of hard currency - and will gladly tell you that they will spend it on what they please.
4. Much of the world heats, cooks, and lights with wood. Will you buy them solar panels and wind turbines before yourself?
5. Nuclear energy is a key element for the interim period, while other alternative forms are developed. However the political and "environmental" powers are not going to let this happen.
6. Any program that is initiated or administered by the United Nations will be used to firstly line their own pockets ("oil for food") and then as a transfer mechanism to fund the next generation of polluters - developing world.
If I sound jaded here, I am. In 1973 I remember hearing news reports of the impending "ice-age", global cooling due to pollution. In only 20 years the scientific community was saying we had it all wrong - we are now going to roast! Then there is the political opportunism - monies will only be collected from countries with "the ability to pay" - how convenient. The European's must be crazy with their aviation carbon taxes! Why not the buses, trains, subways, cars, and don't forget the cows and sheep!
How can we really take this seriously: "The average cow belches up to 400 liters of methane a day, a situation that worsens the global greenhouse effect and ought to be curbed", a Colorado State University scientist says. (NYT)
The Developed World - primarily the West, has the ability to develop alternatives for some of these problems. However it has near zero influence in getting these alternatives implemented on a worldwide basis. The answer is fewer people on this planet - NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
I personally don't waste anything, I make sure all the unused lights are switched off, purchase a high-mileage vehicle, etc. I conserve - which means I practice conservatism. Not because I'm a neo-environmentalist, but because I'm a cheap-ass!
Daddy Rulz
03-13-07, 14:00
Alan23 is a shill for the Republican party and as such joins my most hated monger list, including Coach, Punter, and that bloody pain in the ass Flexible Horn.
Serious note on the topic.
I also am not a Scientist nor do I play one on TV as well. However Michael Crichton is one, before He was an author He was and I guess still is a doctor.
He wrote an interesting book called "State of Fear" in it He talks a lot about Global Warming and the politics behind it, it made me think.
There is a blurb about it here.
http://www.michaelcrichton.net/fear/index.html
I don't really have an opinion on Global Warming in one way or another, I personally think the issue is so politisized (that can't be spelled right) that getting accurate information in order to arrive at an informed opinion is impossible and that's what the book is about. Science is science and politics, politics and the two shouldn't be in bed together, though I'm not dumb enough to believe that they won't be.
On another note, I banged Jessica and Daisy yesterday at 1646 and I believe our caloric output may have contributed to some privado warming. Perhaps even vaginal warming. I know, from first hand account, that the friction caused some dick warming.
According to a new U.N. Report, the global warming outlook is much worse than originally predicted. Which is pretty bad when they originally predicted it would destroy the planet.
StrayLight
03-13-07, 19:04
At the objective level.
The data pointing to global warming being caused by human activity appear to be stronger than the data that pointed to Saddam Hussein having had weapons of mass destruction. And the possible negative ramifications would also appear to be worse.
Considering Dick Cheney's stated position that even if there's only a 1% chance that a nation or organization might launch a terrorist attack on the U.S. it's enough to justify a pre-emptive attack on them, it does not come in good grace for anyone in the current U. S. administration (or for anyone who supports the current U. S. administration) to claim that there are not enough data to warrant taking strong actions to cut down on the human causes of global warming.
On the subjective level.
Losing four or five billion human beings to rising sea levels and such would probably be a good thing for the planet in the long run. Since we don't seem to have any sense of self-restraint or proportion, I'm all for letting nature take its course on this and going back to square one in terms of learning how to share this planet with the myriad other species either God or evolution managed to create over the past several billion years.
I'm just really glad I don't have kids, or even nieces or nephews.
Scientists say because of global warming they expect the world's oceans to rise four and a half feet. The scientists say this can mean only one thing: Gary Coleman is going to drown.
Daddy Rulz
03-13-07, 20:14
Scientists say because of global warming they expect the world's oceans to rise four and a half feet. The scientists say this can mean only one thing: Gary Coleman is going to drown.Did you think of this or did you hear it on Leno? If you thought of it send it to Leno he pays $50.00 bucks for jokes. Thats half a hooker at La Lopez or about 2/3s at Madaho, nothing to be sneezing at my friend.
Did you think of this or did you hear it on Leno? If you thought of it send it to Leno he pays $50.00 bucks for jokes. Thats half a hooker at La Lopez or about 2/3s at Madaho, nothing to be sneezing at my friend.Credit Conan O'Brien for that one.
I could have cross-posted this in the Stock Market thread, but if you guys all believe this pap, then there are fabulous deals available for future ocean front property in Kansas City.
This winter they hardly used cental heating in Athens Greece. The weather was mainly warm to very warm so far. It was like spring time.
Scientist say that in about 30-40 years time Athens is going to have Cairo's temperatures and Scotland the ones of Athens.
Well worth watching.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4520665474899458831&hl=en
Gotta get back to the jokes, though.
Nuevo Espanol
03-14-07, 13:51
Hunt has violated the prime directive.
Only hysteria and hyperbole is allowed in global warming discussions!
Resistance is futile.
Save the planet! It is too late to think!
Comrade Hillary and comrade Obama will save the world.
Gore is a God!
Act now! Kill the machines! Stop corporate greed. Make love not war!
Give peace a chance!
Hunt must be stopped now. Tell Jackson to BAN HUNT99 NOW!
I think Nuevo Esp is off his meds. Someone quick call WebMD and get this boy a refill.
PS, sarcasm only works when you are actually funny, take some lessons from Hunt and DH.
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Daddy Rulz
03-14-07, 15:47
But that link Hunt posted is pretty interesting. Fuck I can't believe I said that, gotta delete, gotta delete.
But that link Hunt posted is pretty interesting.I have to agree with that. Not that I believe two words of that, but they make very good and interesting points. But it said pretty much global warming is happening, they only real argument they give is they don't think humans are causing it. Well, I guess it is just the earth telling us to fuck off. All I know is I am not buying any property on any Polynesian islands anytime soon.
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The planet is definitely warming right now, but not so long ago it was cooling. I don't believe the co2 argument. I think that whatever human beings do, one day the planet will freeze over again. Even if I'm wrong, the ridiculous proposals put forward by some world leaders are not in anyway designed to "tackle climate change". Expensive pollution is still pollution.
The politicians have finally found a way to tax the air we breath. Best of all, the masses are begging them to do so!
Gotta get back to the jokes, though.Sometimes the truth is funnier than the best joke.
Yesterday, John Edwards gave a speech where he stated that global warming will "make world war look like heaven." You can watch faggot* boy here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c68_1173904279&p=1
This coming from the guy who cut down an entire fucking forest to build his 28,000 square foot palace in North Carolina. (Yes, 28,000 square feet, bigger than 15 average homes in the USA.) Weatherby is right, the politicians have figured out exactly how to tax the air we breathe. Scuzzy trial lawyers are ashamed to admit that Edwards is a scuzzy trial lawyer. He makes us look worse than used car salesmen, who promise "Yep, this baby'll make it to 200,000 miles for sure!"
*Oooh, do I have to go to rehab now? ;)
**And so all you Democrats don't go and get your panties in a wad, there are Republicans I can't stand either. Neither that nitwit McCain nor that greaseball liar Romney will get my vote.
Sometimes the truth is funnier than the best joke.
Yesterday, John Edwards gave a speech where he stated that global warming will "make world war look like heaven." You can watch faggot* boy here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c68_1173904279&p=1
This coming from the guy who cut down a forest to build his 12,000 square foot palace in North Carolina. Weatherby is right, the politicians have figured out exactly how to tax the air we breathe. Scuzzy trial lawyers are ashamed to admit that Edwards is a scuzzy trial lawyer. He makes us look worse than used car salesmen, who promise "Yep, this baby'll make it to 200,000 miles for sure!"
*Oooh, do I have to go to rehab now?;)I could think of a number of Republicans I'd vote for before Edwards. What a lightweight. He is an embarrassment.
Rock Harders
03-14-07, 22:53
Hunt99-
The fact that Edwards is a former ambulance chaser and has no chance to even win the Democratic nomination does not mean that "Human Influenced Global Warming" is a lie and a way of NGOs to stay in business. Basic data says that "Global Warming" is absolutely occurring, the only question is whether human activity is hastening this process. Large scale burning of fossil fuels- which deposits unnatural levels of carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide into the atmosphere (among other carcinogenic pollutants) is detrimental to human and animal life indisputably even if you are one of those republicans who is in denial that "human influenced global warming" is occurring. "Human influenced global warming" cannot be proven at this point because everybody knows that the planet goes through warming and cooling periods as part of its natural cycle of existance, yet I really believe that everyone with a conscience understands that it is human activity through various forms of pollution and mutilation of natural areas that is causing this obvious change in world weather patterns.
In a sick sort of way I really hope that the USS George W. Bush and his crew continues its descent to the bottom of the dark neo-realist waters it sails so that Hillary Clinton WILL be elected in 2008 and all the republican scum traitors will be made to pay for their crimes. I hope, I beg, I pray, I long that this happens so that the greedy traitors that make up the Bush Administration, those scourge of humanity criminals who sold the future of the United States so they could line the pockets of themselves and their partners in the military-industrial supplier war machine, will FINALLY pay for the crimes they have committed against the US populace and the world at large.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
**And so all you Democrats don't go and get your panties in a wad, there are Republicans I can't stand either. Neither that nitwit McCain nor that greaseball liar Romney will get my vote.Sorry Hunt but I gotta do it!!
Glad to see some open-mindedness. I cannot recall another time where you said anything remotely negative about a Republican. Unfortunately it was about the more moderate Republicans. But continue going to rehab and you may eventually become a democrat which means you will be able to attack your own party vociferously (he he)
Not sure if you are supportive of Guilani, pretty much an empty suit, who has pretty much nothing to run that on but 911 and is using it perfectly to his advantage. Not sure if he is electable given his many divorces, pro-choice, pro-gun regulation positions. If a senator of 3 years is not qualified how could a mayor be qualified?
Interesting you quote the face and voice of the Republican party Ann Coulter, a most vile, hateful person. Republicans should all be shouting her down for her vile but instead they laugh at her jokes and CPAC continues to support her anti-gay, anti-minority, anti-everything garbage.
Oh well. Tolerance of others is not an attribute most Republicans embrace. Usually, they attack-shout down those they do not agree with rather than have a meaningful discourse.
Suerte.
Stowe
Why is Hagel waffling about running? For my money he is by far the best of a sorry lot.
From the party that embraced the "botched joke" defense of Monsieur Kerry's indefensible insult to our troops, I find the feigned outrage over Coulter's botched joke about Faggot Boy to be quite amusing. Edwards just proved her point, being such a sissy, he can't even tolerate a little name-calling from a woman. Boo hoo! Maybe we should all go to therapy and have a group hug!
As you surmised I'm a Giuliani man. I could give a rat's ass about how many wives he's had or that he has gay friends. (Hell, Daddy Rulz is my friend....;)) Rudy's tough as nails, and doesn't mind the sight of dead Arab terrorists. What we need in 08 is a steel backbone, competence and eloquence, he fits the bill perfectly.
Hagel is a double-talking, wishy-washy little shit, just like his older brother McCain. Neither of those two have a prayer of getting the Republican nomination, and neither does Romney, who took flip-flop lessons from the aforementioned Monsieur Kerry, hair styling lessons from John Edwards, and religion lessons from Joseph Smith.
From the party that embraced the "botched joke" defense of Monsieur Kerry's indefensible insult to our troops, I find the feigned outrage over Coulter's botched joke about Faggot Boy to be quite amusing. Edwards just proved her point, being such a sissy, he can't even tolerate a little name-calling from a woman. Boo hoo!
As you surmised I'm a Giuliani man. I could give a rat's ass about how many wives he's had or that he has gay friends. (Hell, Daddy Rulz is my friend.;) Rudy's tough as nails, and doesn't mind the sight of dead Arab terrorists. What we need in 08 is a steel backbone, competence and eloquence, he fits the bill perfectly.
Hagel is a double-talking, wishy-washy little shit, just like his older brother McCain. Neither of those two have a prayer of getting the Republican nomination, and neither does Romney, who took flip-flop lessons from the aforementioned Monsieur Kerry and hair styling lessons from John Edwards.Coulter is a money chasing ****'s ****.
She's rich, but doesn't lecture us that "Jesus would be ashamed of your wealth." The way Faggot Boy (he of a 28,000 square foot palace) recently did.
I enjoy listening to her precisely because she's calculatedly politically incorrect - and as an attractive woman in stilettos she can kick pompous politicians in the balls like no man can.
She's rich, but doesn't lecture us that "Jesus would be ashamed of your wealth." The way Faggot Boy (he of a 28,000 square foot palace) recently did.
I enjoy listening to her precisely because she's calculatedly politically incorrect - and as an attractive woman in stilettos she can kick pompous politicians in the balls like no man can.If she kicked some REPUBLICAN pompous politicians in the balls from time to time she might have some merit. Otherwise just a nasty little hack who deserves a good ass fucking.
If she kicked some REPUBLICAN pompous politicians in the balls from time to time she might have some merit. Otherwise just a nasty little hack who deserves a good ass fucking.You guys have Janeane Garafalo, we have Ann Coulter. Enjoy your prize. :)
Added: Oh, just did a little search, here's a column of hers where she rips John McCain and a couple other Republicans new assholes. So I guess you'll like Ms. Coulter now? ;)
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=17148
You guys have Janeane Garafalo, we have Ann Coulter. Enjoy your prize.:)
Added: Oh, just did a little search, here's a column of hers where she rips John McCain and a couple other Republicans new assholes. So I guess you'll like Ms. Coulter now?;)
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=17148I still want to assfuck her.:)
Daddy Rulz
03-15-07, 13:49
Nothing would make me happier than if Ann Coulter worked in a 40 peso complato privado.
Hunt, as far as the gay friend thing goes, and I thought we agreed for your sake to keep this between us, only the guy catching on the bottom is a fag.
As far as Kerry and the joke, stupid bad choice I grant, but we are reasonable men here (here of late anyway) I thought it clearly pointed to Bush. Being a combat veteran himself I found it difficult to understand how people were so ready to say it applied to the troops. I don't like Kerry now, I didn't especially like him in 04 but I think the spin machine has been very effective against him. He's like this great big stiff wooden target that just keeps giving classes in how not to be Presidential. I think Carl Rove locked up the election in 04 when they asked him how He felt about Dean as the Dem nom. And He looked in the cameras and smiled and rubbed his hands together. After that the money ran to Kerry.
I think we should run Hunt for the big money oil guys, Stowe for the bleeding heart liberal guys, and that fuckwad Punter for the lost ones.
Dude,
Are you guys serious about this chick Ann? Because if you are I would suggest taking some walks in the park with Ex. This chick has a bigger adams apple than I do. She is a 6 foot tall bag of manly bones. Sorry but she is more " manly " than half the guys on this forum. Plus she has a jaw line Swatrzenegger would be proud of. Ugh. Just the thought of banging that shemale makes me sick. I would think twice about lifting that short SHORT skirt, I wouldn't be surprised if you hit some TV action.
Plus, there is nothing calculating about her stupid rants. She is actually pretty stupid. And she gets called on it all the time on tv. She generally laughs off her ignorance and calls people fagg, not thinking that the only fagg looking one on the panel is herself.
No one takes her shit seriously, only the knukkle dragging republicans actually take anything she says seriously. Please KEEP you Anton Coulter. We have many other intelligent women, you can keep you 6 foot tall wide reciever, but hey, maybe you will get lucky Hunt and find out she is actually a " catcher ".
Good luck,
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Arnold Schwarzenegger is blaming man for global warming. And today, Al Gore agreed with him. That's so typical. Two cyborgs, 'Oh, let's blame the humans.'
Daddy Rulz
03-15-07, 14:55
Dude,
Are you guys serious about this chick Ann? Because if you are I would suggest taking some walks in the park with Ex. This chick has a bigger adams apple than I do. She is a 6 foot tall bag of manly bones. Sorry but she is more " manly " than half the guys on this forum. Plus she has a jaw line Swatrzenegger would be proud of. Ugh. Just the thought of banging that shemale makes me sick. I would think twice about lifting that short SHORT skirt, I wouldn't be surprised if you hit some TV action.
Plus, there is nothing calculating about her stupid rants. She is actually pretty stupid. And she gets called on it all the time on tv. She generally laughs off her ignorance and calls people fagg, not thinking that the only fagg looking one on the panel is herself.
No one takes her shit seriously, only the knukkle dragging republicans actually take anything she says seriously. Please KEEP you Anton Coulter. We have many other intelligent women, you can keep you 6 foot tall wide reciever, but hey, maybe you will get lucky Hunt and find out she is actually a " catcher ".
Good luck,
BadCoulter not hot, definitely definitely not hot. 40 pesos complato privado was for the Widows of 911 being professional victims remark.
I've met her personally at a political function a couple years ago, and she's definitely attractive. Much too skinny for me, but there's no accounting for taste.
You guys who hate her for what she says, let me just say you're playing into her hands. She is outrageous because it sells.
Daddy Rulz
03-15-07, 15:46
I've met her personally at a political function a couple years ago, and she's definitely attractive. Much too skinny for me, but there's no accounting for taste.
You guys who hate her for what she says, let me just say you're playing into her hands. She is outrageous because it sells.It's a good marketing thing, but sometimes she goes way too far I think. Wouldn't want to restrict her of course, free speach and all, but I would enjoy butt fucking her for 40 pesos because of it. Having a photo of it on her next book would be the best. A good title would be "How We Have Been Taking it up the Ass From the Liberal Conspiracy for Ten Decades."
I feel the same about Al Frankin, though I do admit to enjoying him more at least he's funny while presenting his spin. I think this hate mongering on both sides is hurting the country, like John Stewart said on crossfire.
Now that was really funny when He asked the bowtie wearing clown if He thought a fake news show on the comedy channel should be held to the same journalistic standards as a real news show on a news channel. Still available on youtube for anybody that has not seen it.
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) slipped in a compliment — of sorts — about a fellow 2008 hopeful during his appearances on the Iowa stump last weekend.
"I want to wait and hear what John Edwards has to say, he's kind of good-looking," Obama envisioned Iowa caucus-goers from the small town of Clinton telling themselves. During an appearance in West Burlington, Iowa, the phrase appeared again, this time with Edwards as "kind of cute."
I personally don't like girls with a larger adams apple than me.
Hate is too strong a word. Amused by the skeletal manly bag of bones in a skirt standard bearer for the lunatics on the right? Maybe. She is an attention ***** and nothing more. And Hunt, everything sells, you just have to know who to market it to. She has found a very good extremist nitch. Good for her. All I have to say is how many years in prison do you get for throwing pies?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NbTsVP8L5Uk
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Ann Coulter and Hunt at a " rare " book signing appearance
That photoshop still looks better than 70% of what I saw in Cafe Orleans the last time I stuck my head in the door. :D
I personally don't like girls with a larger adams apple than me.
Hate is too strong a word. Amused by the skeletal manly bag of bones in a skirt standard bearer for the lunatics on the right? Maybe. She is an attention ***** and nothing more. And Hunt, everything sells, you just have to know who to market it to. She has found a very good extremist nitch. Good for her. All I have to say is how many years in prison do you get for throwing pies?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NbTsVP8L5Uk
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Ann Coulter and Hunt at a " rare " book signing appearanceAnd here's why nothing coming from this mumbling hermaphrodyke should ever be taken seriously.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f82_1173044310
www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/index.html
Just a pretext for eco fashism.
A lot of you boys seem awfully threatened by a woman with strong opinions, stooping even so low to imply she a transsexual. I guess if you have no real independent thoughts of your own, it makes sense to demonize somebody you disagree with.
Anyway, back to the humor and the subject of the thread.
"They say if the global warming trend continues, by 2015 Hillary Clinton might actually thaw out."
Threatened? Come on now Hunt, I would pay to hear this girl speak, it's either her or the Laugh Factory in Hollywood and last time I heard Kramer was banned. Either way us BOYS need to get our kicks somehow.
Who said anything about disagreeing with her? I didn't, I just called her a manly man in a mini skirt. Maybe YOU are the childish one who is attacking others who disagree with YOU and your notion that she is the best thing since sliced bread. We all have the right to our opinions, maybe they aren't to your liking but oh well. I still think this chick is ugly and I still think she is an attention ***** who only talks crazy because she knows it will get her books sold. Big DEAL.
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A thick blanket of snow that covered much of the northeastern United States this weekend may increase global warming by preventing the heat that radiates from earth's molten core from escaping into the atmosphere, according to former vice president Al Gore.
Mr. Gore, a noted global warming expert who also once ran for president, dismissed suggestions that the biggest snowstorm in New York City history diminishes his case that the planet is warming at an alarming rate.
"First of all," Mr. Gore said, "the reason for all of this snow is that greenhouse gasses trap reflected solar heat causing the polar ice caps to melt, increasing the volume of oceanic water that evaporates, then freezes to become snow. The warmer the planet gets, the more massive snow storms we'll see."
The former vice president, former senator and founder of the red-hot Current TV Network, said the only solution is to remove the snow, not just from the ground, but from earth's water cycle.
"We must pack the snow into giant containers and launch it into outer space," Mr. Gore said. "Every day that George Bush fails to do this, the threat to Mother Earth grows exponentially."
"They say if the global warming trend continues, by 2015 Hillary Clinton might actually thaw out."I have to admit that is a damn good one. Hilary is only running to make history even though she has zero chance of winning.
Suerte.
Stowe
Those who post so passionately that Global Warming is a hoax just do not want to admit that 7 billion people can impact the planet even if the vast majority of scientists and scientific evidence indicates it to be 'more than likely'. Like ostriches, just put the head in the sand and the world is just dandy.
And what would be the harm to adjust ourselves on the assumption that it is true? A cleaner planet, less reliance on those nuts with the oil, some businesses would suffer and new businesses would develop. Short term costs would possibly rise but in the long term probable large reductions in energy, which along with labor, is the most expensive factor in construction of everything.
And what would be the harm if we do nothing and just assume we are not impacting the planet? Possible catastrophic events that would impact us for centuries.
In fact, Global Warming could induce a new ice age which would also be really terrific for us and the planet.
Suerte.
Stowe
And what would be the harm to adjust ourselves on the assumption that it is true? A cleaner planet, less reliance on those nuts with the oil, some businesses would suffer and new businesses would develop. Short term costs would possibly rise but in the long term probable large reductions in energy, which along with labor, is the most expensive factor in construction of everything.When I read your second paragraph, I was thinking this was a reasonable approach until I hit your 3rd sentence. I was convinced that you were speaking of things like replacing incandescent bulbs with fluorescent ones, better EPA fuel mileage requirements, better "R" factor insulation, and higher SEER rated appliances for the home, etc.
On a personal level, I believe you to be more comfortable with government intervention than I am. Let me give you a couple of examples of how the government not only isn't the answer, but has actually been a hinderance: The EPA Fuel Economy requirements have routinely been relaxed and deferred by both political parties since their inception. http://multinationalmonitor.org/hyper/issues/1990/01/allen.html (in retrospect , an interesting article from 1990)
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/cert/mpg/fetrends/420r06011d.pdf (interesting at the progress that was made from 1975 to 1980 - all attributed to weight & horsepower reductions, then 20 years of nothing. About 12% improvement - BAD DEAL!
Then there is an opportunity for some more "Class warfare", the Brits have fired the opening salvo on this one. From the 1st of February the Carbon Tax has doubled to:
- Economy class long-haul flights: £40
- Business and first class long-haul flights: £80
Do you think it appropriate to be paying $80 USD extra for your next coach class trip to Buenos Aires, and $160 USD extra if you were fortunate enough to be "ahead of the curtain"? What is this class difference stuff all about?
Just a couple of examples why I do not want "government" solving a problem that may not be a problem or may not have a "human" solution.
Replacing incandescent bulbs with fluorescent one, a better EPA fuel mileage vehicle, better "R" factor insulation, and higher SEER rated appliances, were all things I was doing when oil was $18 per barrel and gasoline was less than.75 cents a gallon (Feb. 2002) Why, because it makes economic sense! It REALLY makes sense now.
I have zero confidence that the governments of the world will properly address the issue. Think about it; it is your local utility company who gives you rebates / incentives to make your home more energy efficient - because it is more economical to do this rather than build new power plants. If the Federal Goverment were your utility, they would raise your taxes and build the new plants. In fact, because you have "the ability to pay" - they would have you paying quadruple the rate of your neighbor for the same electricity.
Count me out of more BIG government. I can't afford it!
Alan.
P. S. Ostrichs don't really put their heads in the sand. Just another one of those myths - cheers!
Alan,
I think we can agree on one thing. Governments can't solve shit, period. I don't think government controls are the best answer. I think if people and large pollution generating corporations monitor themselves, then that will be better for everyone. I personally don't want a dirty world. I am not a fucking tree hugger, though I don't find anything wrong with them and in fact I find it somewhat noble. But I do have a problem with leaving a much dirtier polluted world to the next generation. As we all know there are many factors that we cannot influence, but there are many that we can. We should start with those and voluntarily correct our polluting ways. Carbon tax isn't the biggest issue by far. Chemical waste dumping in our oceans rivers and lakes. Land fills toxic waste in our drinking water. Come on, carbon tax is all you can think of? We are fucking our world up. You can say what you want about the scientific data and interpret it however you want but the fact is, we are destroying our world with all our wasteful polluting ways.
Does the government have to police people? Well they do it anyways. It is high time they do the same with large corporations that destroy our ecosystem.
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But I am with you, lets all just tell the government to fuck off, tell them we don't need or want their laws. How's that? Sounds good right? Let's tell the corporations to do what is best for their bottom line and to hell with the next generation, to hell with clean oceans.
Who need clean air, clean oceans, rivers, lakes. Who the fuck wants to look up at the sky and not see a brown shit covered haze, Man I love brown shit covered haze. Clear cutting forests is fun. Who needs all that clean O2. Actually I believe the whole carbom cycle is a big propaganda campaign propagated by all those tree hugging sons of bitches. To think they actually care about the environment, perish the thought.
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Ok I am done,.
Bad
A new study that shows dramatic year-to-year losses of snow at the south pole.
It is not yet clear, though, if the evidence of a single year's change represents a trend. But the study provides a surprising new view of the nature of the southern ice cap, said Michael Caplinger of Malin Space Science Systems.
"It's saying that the permanent cap isn't quite so permanent as we thought," Caplinger said in a telephone interview.Link (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/mars_snow_011206-1.html)
Yikes! SUVs have to be banned now!
Charlie Horse
03-17-07, 00:29
MINNEAPOLIS (AP)- A North Pole expedition meant to bring attention to global warming was called off after one of the explorers got frostbite. The explorers, Ann Bancroft and Liv Arnesen, on Saturday called off what was intended to be a 530-mile trek across the Arctic Ocean after Arnesen suffered frostbite in three of her toes, and extreme cold temperatures drained the batteries in some of their electronic equipment.
Good retort. I believe in both capitalism and regulation-some things need to be regulated for the safety of the populace as well as limiting the cost to the public.
Excessive capitalism without regulation gives us an increasing number of e-coli in our food, brings us the likes of Enron, World Crossing, et al.
If I may give you just a few examples of government intervention:
1. The best public school system in the world until the administrators became corrupt and no one controlled them.
2. Nearly every home in the US has water, electricity, paved roads.
3. Electric grid throughout the nation with almost zero power outages (true in California until they privatized it a couple of years ago)
4. The safest food and water in the world (until recent privatization)
Your example of the EPA just proves my point that companies will not spend a penny to save the environment or reduce our dependence on oil. They will have to be regulated to do so. The fact that all politicians are corrupt I do not dispute. In the last 10 years the auto industry has not improved gas mileage 1 MPG, why? Because they were not told to do so (agreed because of corrupt politicians-Dem and Rep) Proves corporations will do anything to maximize profits to the detriment of all else. That is not necessarily bad because that it basically what a corporation is chartered to do. It is up to outside forces to ensure they do not get out of control.
Do you think that Exxon would have cleaned up the Valdez on their own? They are STILL refusing to pay the judgment against them from-what 20 years ago? So much for corporate responsibility.
Many laws save lives but perhaps that is not important to you? Bikers required to wear a helmet will save ME money if the idiot does not have medical insurance it minimizes my risk to have to pay for his medical. I want that protection.
Regulation requiring auto insurance attempts to protect ME (and society) from idiots that do not have it and drive like idiots.
Obviously, you only chose to look at those things that support your beliefs without giving credit to how society has benefited from taxes and government intervention. This country has the lowest overall tax structure in the world which is why the roads, schools, bridges, damns and a lot of other things are in serious dis-repair.
Not sure if you are 'anti-tax' but without taxes any country would collapse. I am not a blind liberal, though and hate it when my tax dollars are wasted. But there has to be a happy medium and I just get that that is something you think.
Your utility example also proves my point. In California when PG & E was heavily regulated they were required to have about a 15% surplus energy capability at all times (to cover peak demand) so they continuously build plants and in 35 years we never had a problem. In the last 5 years since deregulated the PG & E only keeps about a 5% surplus (which does not always cover peak demand in the summer) and we have had black and brown outs and are frequently in danger of more.
BTW - the ostrich comment was just an expression, symbolizing an attitude. I was expecting everyone to understand that. Guess I was wrong.
Suerte.
Stowe
Stowe,
Thanks for a great exchange of ideas / opinions. Exactly what I had hoped for when I started this thread.
Don't forget your ideas / points, would like to continue the debate over a beer or cafe con leche.
I was just pulling your leg, albeit an ostrich leg - trying to tie together the possible myth of totally human caused global warming.
Alan
Stowe,
Thanks for a great exchange of ideas / opinions. Exactly what I had hoped for when I started this thread.
Don't forget your ideas / points, would like to continue the debate over a beer or cafe con leche.
I was just pulling your leg, albeit an ostrich leg - trying to tie together the possible myth of totally human caused global warming.
AlanYeah, I was also pulling your leg with my smart-ass reply regarding the ostrich-sorry about that. No animas intended. I will be there in 2 weeks and if you are still there, would enjoy continuing my convincing diatribe with you over a beer. If you are interested and will still be in BA give me a PM.
Suerte.
Stowe
Once again, truth is funnier than fiction.
Link (http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/03/16/interfaith_group_braves_storm_in_climate_change_trek/)
An Article by the head of British Airways.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=418548&in_page_id=2
Here's a true photo from the Global Warming protest last weekend that I wrote about two posts ago.
Another true photo.
http://mail.google.com/mail/?attid=0.1&disp=inline&view=att&th=11170126f2f70416
Anyone who still believes in the environmental movement should watch this.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4340135300469846467
Then, ask yourself how many other lies you have come to believe.
Sounds like the same thing those religious rights people who say that evolution is silly, and that their is no scientific fact that proved evolution is true.
Bottom line weather global warming ir true or not, everyone can do there part in not abusing our environment. Heck, this is our world we live in, we should take care of it.
Sounds like the same thing those religious rights people who say that evolution is silly, and that their is no scientific fact that proved evolution is true.
Bottom line weather global warming ir true or not, everyone can do there part in not abusing our environment. Heck, this is our world we live in, we should take care of it.Well, anyone who watches this video should be scientifically convinced that global warming is a hoax, otherwise they would have to be fucking retarded.
The environment should be protected, just not by addressing problems that do not exist with solutions that only serve a hidden agenda.
The REAL environmental problems, such as the agricultural practices in the US are never addressed. Dumping billions of tons of noxious health destroying chemicals on our soil to grow food that will then make us sick.
What is your problem Nem? If you believe something, it is your right to believe, if you think a VIDEO will convince the world to think as you do, you are really jaded. Calling people retarding for not thinking like you is retarded.
I haven't seen your video, nor do I want to, there are many videos out their, they all are slanted to fit their narrow views. I can believe what I want and so can you, give it a rest allready and go to another type of website to spout off about your global warming conspiracy theories.
Thanks,
Bad
What is your problem Nem? If you believe something, it is your right to believe, if you think a VIDEO will convince the world to think as you do, you are really jaded. Calling people retarding for not thinking like you is retarded.
I haven't seen your video, nor do I want to, there are many videos out their, they all are slanted to fit their narrow views. I can believe what I want and so can you, give it a rest allready and go to another type of website to spout off about your global warming conspiracy theories.
Thanks,
BadYeah yeah, your reaction is typical.
The world will never be convinced of anything if they adopt your fact finding method of refusing to look at the evidence. That is how propaganda can take root in the first place.
Refusing to look at the evidence is RETARDED! How could anyone disagree with that? Besides, this is not my view, but the opinion of renouned scientists, infinitely more qualified to render an opinion on the subject than either me or you.
The only thing jaded is choosing to believe lies and fearing truth, as you obviously do. The government will cloak a shitload of political agendas in this propaganda horseshit in the very near future, and I'm not about to permit a frightened little bad boy like you to interfere with doing my part to prevent it from happening.
Thank You!
WTF are you talking about? Are you ok? Do you need some medicine?
There are thousands of RENOWNED scientists who disagree with you and your video. Many people choose to believe them instead of you. That is called freedom of thought and freedom of expression.
I see now you are on some sort of crusade on Argentina Private (our sex forum of all places) trying to brainwash everyone into thinking only what you dictate and badmouthing anyone who disagrees, sounds just like the government you claim to be against.
I don't care what you believe, so the fear is YOURS, you are the scared little boy, not me. My only problem is you calling everyone that disagrees with you retarded. The only retard is the one on a sex forum pushing global warming conspiracy theories on others.
But have fun, just don't think anyone is taking your scared little hysterical ass seriously,
Thanks,
Bad
BTW you scared little dipshit: everyone knows that in science you will allways have a wide spectrum of theories and opinions and THAT is what makes science so valuable, dogmatic behavior in science is conterproductive, anti-intellectual and all around STUPID and RETARDED, but I wouldn't expect a wanabee intellectual like you to understand that, you have found a few theories that agree with your view and YOU are too scared to look outside that box, HOW SAD. As a famous lyricist once said " you better ask somebody ".
WTF are you talking about? Are you ok? Do you need some medicine?
There are thousands os RENOWNED scientists who disagree with you and your video. Many people choose to believe them instead of you. That is called freedom of thought and freedom of expression.
I see now you are on some sort of crusade on Argentina Private (our sex forum of all places) trying to brainwash everyone into thinking what you dictate and badmouthing anyone who disagrees, sounds just like the government you claim to be against.
I don't care what you believe, so the fear is YOURS, you are the scared little boy, not me. My only problem is you calling everyone that disagrees with you retarded. The only retard is the one on a sex forum crusading global warming conspiracy theories.
But have fun, just don't think anyone is taking your scared little hysterical ass seriously,
Thanks,
BadHey Stupid!
I didn't start this thread on this forum, I'm merely contributing to it, and I said that anyone who still believes in global warming after watching the video is retarded, not that anyone who disagrees with me is. Of course I don't expect someone like you to recognize the difference.
I'm exercising my freedom of thought, you are exercising your freedom of ignorance and stupidity. You have neither looked at the science for or against the theory of global warming but are talking out the the same ass your tiny little head is lodged in.
That is your choice, but kindly fuck off while I make a very valuable contribution on this topic in contrast to your worthless and incoherent rant.
I doubt there are any scientist who would disagree with the information contained in the video, which you have neither watched, or are likely to have the capacity to understand.
One thing goes to your credit, you realize, although likely not at a concious level, that the government is trying to deceive us.
So you see, you're not just a bad boy but also an ignorant and stupid little boy.
LOL
What a fucking clown,
Actually I think my previous post was quite coherent, if it was too difficult for you to comprehend, you need to go back to night school.
You have the right to your opinion and so does everyone else, just because some people don't agree with the video you are pimping on the forum doesn't make anyone retarded, except the irate little dipshit who is mad people don't agree with him.
I THINK you are full of shit, that is just my honest opinion, deal with it and stop jumping up and down because no one is paying attention to you, you hysterical little nancy boy.
Thanks,
Bad
PS, if you are TRYING to sound smart, at least use the spell checker.
BundaLover
04-06-07, 04:42
Is it possible that this forum which is dedicated to finding Argentine pussy, juicy steaks and solid malbecs, how to buy real estate (not always in that order) may not be the best forum to determine the fate of the universe? Man made global warming via activies in last 20 years is bullshit but it make take about 5000 years to 'prove it'. When the islamists get their hands on Pakistan government and hence nuclear weapons we won't have to worry about tree frogs in Costa Rica.
Is it possible that this forum which is dedicated to finding Argentine pussy, juicy steaks and solid malbecs, how to buy real estate (not always in that order) may not be the best forum to determine the fate of the universe? Man made global warming via activies in last 20 years is bullshit but it make take about 5000 years to 'prove it'. When the islamists get their hands on Pakistan government and hence nuclear weapons we won't have to worry about tree frogs in costa rica.Agreed,
Bad.
Though I think nemasissy is on a self styled crusade to convert all the punters on this website into durkin heads, so we might be in for quite a fun flame war.
Appears you are one of those lunatic fanatics whose whole identity centers around some propaganda fantasy agenda fuel pile of government dogshit.
Not that your life would be any less worthless without some fraudulent shit cause to throw yourself behind. I love jabbing morons like you in the head with reality and to shatter your delusional fantasy world with the facts and watch you writhe in frustration as the only thing giving meaning to you vaporises into thin air.
Your superficial scientific theories are hollow propaganda bunk that even a child should dismiss at utter nonsense at first glance. If you had the ability to think critically, you would also come to that conclusion instead of groping around in the dark sucking up totally absurd theories and turn them into your religiion.
Fuck you, and your stupidity!
Real science has always known that (greenhouse gas) Global Warming is a giant hoax. It always has been, and it always will be.
The funny thing is I don't really care either way, I think, long before the pollution and wastefullness kills us, our own nuclear weapons will do us and the Earth the favor.The only real threat to mankind is your particular kind of stupidity!:)
StupidBoy13,
You should try to come up with your own material you muttering fucktwat! Every one of your posts is some mangled recast of my previous material. Too stupid to sift through evidence and too dumb to be original.
I can see you there spitting and red faced in front of your computer trying to justify the unjustifiable. Environmentalism is your religion, and in your insane little world, the world is still flat.
The Durkin video is not the only evidence of bad science, and no opinion contradicting mainstream propaganda theories has ever gone unchallenged. There are enough naive morons like yourself sucking on the end of the propaganda sewer pipe that truth is always fighting an uphill battle.
StupidBoy,
You don't have enough credibility to have any kind of an opinion, least of all concerning me.
StupidBoy has decided to muddled this thread with his incoherent rants, so here's the video again.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4340135300469846467
Anyone who still believes in global warming after watching it must be retarded.
Funny how Wunch is the only among dozens of scientists and other prominent figures who has complained about being misquoted. My guess, the guy was simple embarassed for being cast into an anti environmentalism documentary.
The data and the information is far more reliable than the bogous and indefensible theories of the global warming movement, all of which can be ripped into a thousand shreds.
UK Secretary of State for Environment, Farming and Rural Affairs, David Miliband presented a rebuttal of the main points of the film on his blog and stated "There will always be people with conspiracy theories trying to do down the scientific consensus, and that is part of scientific and democratic debate, but the science of climate change looks like fact to me."
Carl Wunsch, one of the scientists featured in the programme, has said that he was "completely misrepresented" in the film and had been "totally misled" when he agreed to be interviewed. He called the film "grossly distorted" and "as close to pure propaganda as anything since World War Two." Wunsch was reported to have threatened legal action and to have lodged a complaint with Ofcom, the UK broadcast regulator.
Wunsch wrote in a letter dated March 15, 2007 that he believes climate change is "real, a major threat, and almost surely has a major human-induced component". He also says he had thought he was contributing to a programme which sought to counterbalance "over-dramatisation and unwarranted extrapolation of scientific facts". He raised objections as to how his interview material was used:
"In the part of The Great Climate Change Swindle where I am describing the fact that the ocean tends to expel carbon dioxide where it is warm, and to absorb it where it is cold, my intent was to explain that warming the ocean could be dangerous - because it is such a gigantic reservoir of carbon. By its placement in the film, it appears that I am saying that since carbon dioxide exists in the ocean in such large quantities, human influence must not be very important—diametrically opposite to the point I was making—which is that global warming is both real and threatening"
On March 11, 2007, The Independent covered the Carl Wunch controversy, and asked Channel 4 to respond to what it described as "a serious challenge to its own credibility". A Channel 4 spokesman said:
"The film was a polemic that drew together the well-documented views of a number of respected scientists to reach the same conclusions. This is a controversial film but we feel that it is important that all sides of the debate are aired. If one of the contributors has concerns about his contribution we will look into that"
The British Antarctic Survey released a "Statement" about the The Great Global Warming Swindle. It is highly critical of the programme, singling out the use of a graph with the incorrect time axis, and also the statements made about solar activity: "A comparison of the distorted and undistorted contemporary data reveal that the plot of solar activity bears no resemblance to the temperature curve, especially in the last 20 years." Comparing scientific methods with Channel 4's editorial standards, the statement says: "Any scientist found to have falsified data in the manner of the Channel 4 programme would be guilty of serious professional misconduct." It uses the feedback argument to explain temperatures rising before CO2. On the issue of volcanic CO2 emissions, it says:
A second issue was the claim that human emissions of CO2 are small compared to natural emissions from volcanoes. This is untrue: current annual emissions from fossil fuel burning and cement production are estimated to be around 100 times greater than average annual volcanic emissions of CO2. That large volcanoes cannot significantly perturb the CO2 concentration of the atmosphere is apparent from the ice core and atmospheric record of CO2 concentrations, which shows a steady rise during the industrial period, with no unusual changes after large eruptions
Alan Thorpe, professor of meteorology at the University of Reading and Chief Executive of the UK Natural Environment Research Council, commented on the film in New Scientist. He wrote, "First, let's deal with the main thesis: that the presence or absence of cosmic rays in Earth's atmosphere is a better explanation for temperature variation than the concentration of CO2 and other gases. This is not a new assertion and it is patently wrong: there is no credible evidence that cosmic rays play a significant role. Let scepticism reign, but let's not play games with the evidence "
The Royal Society has issued a press release in reaction to the movie. In it, Martin Rees, the president of the Royal Society, shortly restates the predominant scientific opinion on climate change and adds:
"Scientists will continue to monitor the global climate and the factors which influence it. It is important that all legitimate potential scientific explanations continue to be considered and investigated. Debate will continue, and the Royal Society has just hosted a two day discussion meeting attended by over 300 scientists, but it must not be at the expense of action. Those who promote fringe scientific views but ignore the weight of evidence are playing a dangerous game. They run the risk of diverting attention from what we can do to ensure the world's population has the best possible future
Ok, So I guess it is safe to say that someone who watches this video CAN resist the urge to be brainwashed by it and can independently analyze the data and come up with their own opinions, sometimes favorable and sometimes critical. I guess people can also have the cognitive ability to smell propaganda and act accordingly. Durkin is NOT god and neither is HIS documentary, no matter what nemasissy tells you.
If some dirty pimp tries to push some smelly ***** on you at a club, your first instinct that the smelly ***** is no good might be right, don't be afraid to say " no, I will find my own *****, thank you."
Thanks,
Bad.
The funny thing is I don't really care either way, I think, long before the pollution and wastefullness kills us, our own nuclear weapons will do us and the Earth the favor. But heck that is just my humble opinion, one that I will not foist on anyone. I personally think this whole climate thing makes sense, but who cares, though I am always willing to dabate those facts with anyone with some scientific knowledge base, AP is probably not the best pond to fish in for this, but what the heck. What I can't stand is these black and white propagandists pimping FRINGE theory as if it were the ONLY truth.
StupidBoy has decided to muddled this thread with his incoherent rants, so here's the video again. Really?
Then what may I ask was this? Some sort of brain fart you had and wanted to share with the rest of us ? Nice try at propaganda, attack, then rant, then shut up and wait to repost, was this your strategy? LMAO
Fucktwat lunatic fanatics propaganda fantasy agenda fueld pile of government dogshit.
Your life would be any less worthless fraudulent shit I love jabbing morons like you in the head shatter your delusional fantasy world watch you writhe in frustration as the only thing giving meaning to you vaporises into thin air.
Your superficial scientific theories are hollow propaganda bunk that even a child should dismiss at utter nonsense. Groping around in the dark sucking up absurd theories turn them into your religiion.
Fuck you, and your stupidity!Nice, I am glad my last comment sobered you up a bit. There is no credibility you have, you are mainly here to pimp your theories on the forum. I am here to let you know, people have the right to think what they want.
PS, thanks for the laughs, I am actually about to nominate this post of yours as a post of distinction, to show others just what the dangers are of mixing crack and alcohol with a bad case of untreated neurosyphilis.
Bad
Fucktwat lunatic fanatics propaganda fantasy agenda fueld pile of government dogshit.
Your life would be any less worthless fraudulent shit I love jabbing morons like you in the head shatter your delusional fantasy world watch you writhe in frustration as the only thing giving meaning to you vaporises into thin air.
Your superficial scientific theories are hollow propaganda bunk that even a child should dismiss at utter nonsense. Groping around in the dark sucking up absurd theories turn them into your religiion.
Fuck you, and your stupidity!Dude, is this silly ***** pmsing or am I tripping? Damn kid talk about a tantrum. That was a good one nemasissy, I guess we all just " watched you writhe in frustration as the only thing giving meaning to you vaporises into thin air " oh man, that was a good one. Keep em coming nemasissy. The only one taking this shit seriously is you, though you are adding something, I don't know, psychotic? To this forum.
Yikes, there really are some screwy fuck nutts out there.
Thanks,
Bad
StupidBoy13,
You muttering fucktwat! Too stupid to sift through evidence and too dumb to be original.
I can see you there spitting and red faced in front of your computer trying to justify the unjustifiable. Environmentalism is your religion, and in your insane little world, the world is still flat.
There are enough naive morons like yourself sucking on the end of the propaganda sewer pipe that truth is always fighting an uphill battle.Ummmm, you don't really expect anyone to take you seriously after this do you? I mean, really, Hunt might pretend to come to your defense, but other than that, god damn kid, you have some serious issues. I am no environmentalist, nor am I a brainwashed Global warming Nazi like you.
Keep it up, your posts keep getting more and more entertaining, and whats more important, they get more and more telling the angrier you get.
Just like a bad night of heavy drinking, you WILL regret this in the morning.
Bad
The IPCC was one of the main targets of the documentary. Many of the film's arguments have been disputed by climate scientists who support the consensus view regarding human influence on climate. In response to the programme's broadcast, John T. Houghton (former co-chair IPCC Scientific Assessment working group 1988-2002) assessed some of its main assertions and conclusions. According to Houghton, three of these were true, seven were not true, and one was possibly true. Houghton rejected claims: that observed changes in global average temperature are within the range of natural climate variability or explicable by solar influences; that the troposphere is warming less than the surface; that volcanic eruptions emit more carbon dioxide than fossil fuel burning; that climate models are too complex and uncertain to provide useful projections of climate change; and that IPCC processes were biased. Overall Houghton described the programme as "a mixture of truth, half truths and falsehood "
Climate scientists William Connolley and Gavin Schmidt write in the RealClimate blog that the programme selectively used data that was sometimes decades old in making its arguments, altered graphs to make it appear that older observations had been made more recently, and used older scientific studies when more recent research would have disagreed with the film's conclusions.
Read a little about what the world outside of this hysterical clowns brain thinks about this so called holy grail of global warming aka "The Great Global Warming Swindle is a controversial documentary film by British television producer Martin Durkin which presents claims which oppose the predominant scientific opinion on global warming. Publicity for the programme states that the mainstream theory of global warming is "a lie" and "the biggest scam of modern times." Its accuracy has been disputed on several points, and the film has been criticised for being one-sided. Channel 4, who screened the documentary, described the film as "essentially a polemic and we are expecting it to cause trouble, but this is the controversial programming that Channel 4 is renowned for"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gr...Warming_Swindle
The Times reported that Durkin had seriously fallen out with a scientist who had been considering working with him. Armand Leroi was concerned that Durkin had used data about a correlation between solar activity and global temperatures which had subsequently been found to be flawed. Leroi sent Durkin an e-mail saying, "To put this bluntly: the data that you showed in your programme were. Wrong in several different ways". He copied the e-mail to scientific author Simon Singh. Durkin responded to Leroi saying "You're a big daft cock". Singh sent an email to Durkin urging him to engage in serious debate. Durkin responded stating, "Since 1940 we have had four decades of cooling, three of warming, and the last decade when temperature has been doing nothing", and concluded with, "Go and fuck yourself." Durkin later apologised for his language, saying that he had sent the e-mails when tired and had just finished making the programme.
Is it possible that this forum which is dedicated to finding Argentine pussy, juicy steaks and solid malbecs, how to buy real estate (not always in that order) may not be the best forum to determine the fate of the universe? Man made global warming via activies in last 20 years is bullshit but it make take about 5000 years to 'prove it'. When the islamists get their hands on Pakistan government and hence nuclear weapons we won't have to worry about tree frogs in costa rica.Hear hear!
Stupidboy13,
It never fails when you come out against Global Warming fraud, some enviro-religion lunatic tree fag hops along and starts prolapsing propaganda horseshit all over the information, and in this case over and over again.
If it wasn't for dumbed down morons who are unfortunately also entitled to vote in the next election, and are therefore a bigger threat to society than any environmental issue, the government would never be able to deceive the people.
We need to either educate this trash, or get rid of it, and in the case of Stupid, the latter seems the only available option.
Anyway, here is the video link again:)
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4340135300469846467, and in case I haven't mentioned it, anyone who still believes in the Global Warming hoax after watching this, is retarded.
Ok, start flicking your boogers and waste more of Jackson's disk space with incoherent rants about your flat earth theory.
Why don't you find yourself another planet to save? Like Pluto, for example. LOL
This has been impossible for many, many years on the creeks and lakes in my IN town! Climate change possible? Don't consult the mad scientists!When my great-great-great-great grandpappy (born almost the same year as Daddy Rulz) was shagging cave girls, there was a sheet of ice a mile thick over Chicago. Did all the caveman SUVs melt it and cause global warming?
Every planet in the solar system is warming up right now; it's natural, normal, and caused by the sun. It goes in cycles.
The science on man made global warming is equivalent to my great-great-great grandpappy pissing in the river and the next morning seeing the river flood over its banks. Must have been his peeing!
Anyone can make a Documentary. ANYONE! And you can mix many peoples words up to make a great story. Everyone is going crazy. Everyone should do there part for the world so their will be future generations of HOT ARGENTINE CHICKS for our grandkids and there grandkids.
Can't we all just FUCK along. HAHA
Anyone can make a Documentary. ANYONE! And you can mix many peoples words up to make a great story. Everyone is going crazy. Everyone should do there part for the world so their will be future generations of HOT ARGENTINE CHICKS for our grandkids and there grandkids.
Can't we all just FUCK along. HAHAIf you want to do something for the world, start by dispelling myths fabricated to cloak hidden and very dangerous political agendas. What is the point of making massive sacrifices to address a problem that does not exist?
There are so many good causes to spend your time on. Why waste your talent and energy on a fabricated fantasy?
Global temperature and polar ice fluctuations have been around for thousands of years, all throughout recorded history, and they have never been a problem. Now we are going to shoot outselves in the head becasue of it? Insane!
The water tables are rising because of the increase in temperature and water expansion, and the increase in CO2 gas is also attributable to the rise in temperature, not the other way around.
Rock Harders
04-06-07, 20:32
Mongers,
Fact # 1: Climate change is a cyclical process in which cosmic forces, along with several natural terrestrial forces play a part. Fact # 2: These cyclical forces take place over hundreds, if not thousands of years, and happen so gradually that during the span of a human lifetime they would be hardly noticeable. Fact # 3: The climate change that has so clearly occurred over the past fifty years is not part of this cyclical process and is therefore caused by something else. What has occurred over the past fifty years that could be that "something else"? Mass deforestation (plants absord CO2 and release Oxygen as part of there natural processes) and a massive worldwide spiking in industrial air, sea, and land pollution (this includeds means of transport, factories, power plants, etc. May have thrown the earth's natural balancing temporarily out of order.
The "good" news is that this human-caused climate change can and likely will lead to only one thing: a mass dying off of humans on earth. Whether it be from famine, drought, disease, war, or stupidity, one way or another a few billion people are going to get the axe, and hey, they deserve it after the way they have treated their forests, rivers, oceans and lands.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
StrayLight
04-06-07, 20:38
The "good" news is that this human-caused climate change can and likely will lead to only one thing: a mass dying off of humans on earth. Whether it be from famine, drought, disease, war, or stupidity, one way or another a few billion people are going to get the axe, and hey, they deserve it after the way they have treated their forests, rivers, oceans and lands. Hey, a man after my own heart. I like it. I like it.
Dirt Diggler,
I agree with you 100% , Ohh I forgot, no one should say something that Nem. Does not agree with. I have a feeling next time he logs on more anger will come out.
I do know this, I am trying to do my part for the environment.
Scientists Issue Global Warming Report.
Climate Change Raises Risk of Species Extinction.
BRUSSELS, Belgium (April 6) - As the world gets hotter by degrees, millions of poor people will suffer from hunger, thirst, floods and disease unless drastic action is taken, scientists and diplomats warned Friday in their bleakest report ever on global warming.
All regions of the world will change, with the risk that nearly a third of the Earth's species will vanish if global temperatures rise just 3.6 degrees above the average temperature in the 1980s-90s, the new climate report says. Areas that now have too little rain will become drier. And while some scientists were angered at losing some ground, many praised the report as the strongest warning ever that nations must cut back on greenhouse gas emissions.
The report is the second of four coming this year from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a United Nations network of 2,000 scientists. The new document tries to explain how global warming is changing life on Earth; the panel's report in February focused on the cause of global warming and said scientists are highly confident most of it is due to human activity.
"There is a discernible human influence on these changes" that are already occurring through flooding, heat waves, hurricanes and threats to species, she said. British scientist Neil Adger said he and others were disappointed that government officials deleted parts of a chart that highlights the devastating effects of climate change with every rise of 1.8 degrees in temperature.
"Don't be poor in a hot country, don't live in hurricane alley, watch out about being on the coasts or in the Arctic, and it's a bad idea to be on high mountains with glaciers melting," said Schneider, the Stanford scientist who was one of the study author's.
Africa by 2020 is looking at an additional 75 million to 250 million people going thirsty because of climate change, the report said. Deadly diarrheal diseases associated with floods and droughts will increase in Asia because of global warming, the report said. The first few degrees increase in global temperature will actually raise global food supply, but then it will plummet, according to the report.
"The poorest of the poor in the world - and this includes poor people in prosperous societies - are going to be the worst hit," said Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. "People who are poor are least able to adapt to climate change."
Schneider said a main message isn't just what will happen, but what already has started: melting glaciers, stronger hurricanes, deadlier heat waves, and disappearing or moving species. It all can be traced directly to greenhouse gases from the burning of fossil fuels, according to the report.
Martin Parry, who conducted the tough closed-door negotiations, said that with 29,000 sets of data from every continent include Antarctica, the report firmly and finally established "a man-made climate signal coming through on plants, water and ice."
http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/scientists-issue-global-warming-report/20070406074309990001
Scientists Issue Global Warming Report.
Climate Change Raises Risk of Species Extinction.
BRUSSELS, Belgium (April 6) - As the world gets hotter by degrees, millions of poor people will suffer from hunger, thirst, floods and disease unless drastic action is taken, scientists and diplomats warned Friday in their bleakest report ever on global warming. BLAH BLAH BLAH
http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/scientists-issue-global-warming-report/20070406074309990001What a pile of Shit!
You said that allready, anything else?
Chances are people on the forum don't all agree with you, chances are the 2000 United Nations sponsored scientists disagree with you as well. Based on your talking points anyone can see you prefer name calling and libel as opposed to actually debating the technical aspects of any of your so called " beliefs ", which brings me to the conclusion that you have no idea what you are talking about.
So please stop pretending to be a Global Warming PH. D, because you are not. You saw a DOCUDRAMA and now you think you know all there is to know about Global Warming, now I am the one ROTFFLMMFAO. This type of scientific research is no joke and any serious scientist who really knows what he is talking about would never call another scientists work " Shit ". He would academically analyze, dissect, break down each individual point and then systematically dispute the points he found flawed, he would first find coroborating evidence, data and research that would put the the current research into question and then he would offer his own theories, theorems and corralaries on said topic. And then he would wait for a rebuttal.
You sound like a very unintellectual porpagandist that is just wasting everyones time. I would suggest you actually say something of value on the topic at hand or simply retire, you posted the same worthless link THREE times allready, was that the extent of your argument? Everything else has been unintellectual rants calling people names only someone with tourette's would use. Well that and calling the 85% of the scientific community a bunch of retards. I guess you fancy yourself an Einstein, Well news flash sissy, you are not, and no one here is buying it.
Thanks,
Bad
Ok, start flicking your boogers and waste more of Jackson's disk space with incoherent rants So is that what this was?
Fucktwat lunatic fanatics propaganda fantasy agenda fueld pile of government dogshit.
Your life would be any less worthless fraudulent shit I love jabbing morons like you in the head shatter your delusional fantasy world watch you writhe in frustration as the only thing giving meaning to you vaporises into thin air.
Your superficial scientific theories are hollow propaganda bunk that even a child should dismiss at utter nonsense. Groping around in the dark sucking up absurd theories turn them into your religiion.
Fuck you, and your stupidity!The great thing about you is you seem to kick your own ass, but we all love to listen to psychotic global warming neo nazi propagandists rant to their hearts content, so keep it up but please don't pretend to be anything more, you allready killed that notion with your own words.
Thanks,
Bad.
I will await the next incoherent rant aka waste of Jackson's disk space, just read what you type to find the meaning of incoherence. Pick up a dictionary once in a while, it might expand your vocabulary and then you won't have to use so many childish adjectives.
LET US BE HONEST about the intellectual culture of America in general: It has become almost impossible to have an intelligent discussion about anything.
Everything is a war now. This is the age of lethal verbal combat, where even scientific issues involving measurements and molecules are somehow supernaturally polarizing. The controversy about global warming resides all too perfectly at the collision point of environmentalism and free market capitalism. It's bound to be not only politicized but twisted, mangled and beaten senseless in the process. The divisive nature of global warming isn't helped by the fact that the most powerful global-warming skeptic (at least by reputation) is President Bush, and the loudest warnings come from Al Gore.
Human beings may be large of brain, but they are social animals, too, like wolves, and are prone to behave in packs. So when something like climate change comes up, the first thing people want to know is, whose side are you on? All those climatic variables and uncertainties and probabilities and "forcings" and "feedback loops," those cans of worms that Bill Gray talks about, get boiled down to their essence. Are you with us or against us?
Somehow Hitler keeps popping into the discussion. Gore draws a parallel between fighting global warming and fighting the Nazis. Novelist Michael Crichton, in State of Fear, ends with an appendix comparing the theory of global warming to the theory of eugenics -- the belief, prominently promoted by Nazis, that the gene pool of the human species was degenerating due to higher reproductive rates of "inferior" people. Both, he contends, are examples of junk science, supported by intellectual elites who will later conveniently forget they signed on to such craziness.
The remainder of the article: www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/23/AR2006052301305_pf.html
All the rhetoric boils down to three things:
1. A convenient way for the less-developed world to "control" the more-developed world.
2. The politican's perfect dream - TAXATION, the solution to all problems.
3. A new career for Al Gore since he was no longer making it in politics
Here is a video clip of a scientist who irrefutably confirms[Deleted by Admin] religious convictions about the environment.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e60_1175961073
Truth is, public opinion is being molded by the media with information that has no basis in fact. They are getting away with increasingly blatantly wrong information, like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, which then enters the public domain unchallanged, to be abused to create political change to the benefit of special interest groups.
No, stupid, it's going to take much more than a spellchecker or a dictionary to lend any form of intelligence to your incoherent propaganda rants about some flat earth theory.
America is degenerating into a fashist regime because of the rising number of dumbed down morons like [Deleted by Admin], and who are incapable of understanding the most basic forms of common sense, logic, and reason.
That's how we ended up in Iraq, that is why we are losing our freedoms, why our jobs are heading south, and why we will soon be burdened with unnecessary eco-fashism legislation and other related detriments to our way of life, etc etc etc.
Some of the most intelligent people in world live in America, but the whole world thinks that Americans are stupid, and America has that reputation because of people like Stupidboy13.
What a [Deleted by Admin].
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I think your comments aren't even worth adressing at this point so I will pretend I didn't read that. I am just waiting for some actual intellectual debate, not childish name calling.
Bad
I don't expect you to read anything that contains truthful information, but here it is again, in case you missed it.
Here is a video clip of a scientist who irrefutably confirms StupidBoy13's religious convictions about the environment.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e60_1175961073
Truth is, public opinion is being molded by the media with information that has no basis in fact. They are getting away with increasingly blatantly wrong information, like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, which then enters the public domain unchallanged, to be abused for the creation of political change to the benefit of special interest groups.
No, stupid, it's going to take much more than a spellchecker or a dictionary to lend any form of intelligence to your incoherent propaganda rants about some paranoid flat earth theory.
America is degenerating into a fashist regime because of the rising number of dumbed down morons like [Deleted by Admin] , and who are incapable of understanding the most basic forms of common sense, logic, and reason.
That's how we ended up in Iraq, that is why we are losing our freedoms, why our jobs are heading south, and why we will soon be burdened with unnecessary eco-fashism legislation and other related detriments to our way of life, etc etc etc.
Some of the most intelligent people in world live in America, but the whole world thinks that Americans are stupid, and America has that reputation because of people like [Deleted by Admin].
What a [Deleted by Admin].
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I think your comments aren't even worth adressing at this point so I will pretend I didn't read that. I am just waiting for some actual intellectual debate, not childish name calling.
BadThat would be an even bigger waste of time than doing something about global warming.
Like you are capable of engaging in intelligent debate!
Please.
You may continue to pretend that the irrefutable evidence against the Global Warming propaganda fraud does not exist, while I will have my intelligent discusions with people who are capable of knowing better.
Whatever you say, you have shown your true colors on AP, and the general populaion here can decide for themselves what it is you are really trying to do here. And don't flatter YOURSELF. I am awaiting someone and something I can actually respond to, your name calling has gotten old, tired, and childish, not to mention boring and predictable.
Bad
Just be clarify for [Deleted by Admin] does not get confused again thinking that this is addressed to him. I do not waste my time with [Deleted by Admin] , so I'm hoping the [Deleted by Admin] will figure that out and quit [Deleted by Admin] .
I remember a renouned scientist on television about 30 years ago presenting some paranoid malthusian propaganda rant on another flat earth theory delusion about overpopulation.
He claimed that by the year 2005 the world would be so overpopulated that people would be stacked on top of each other covering every square meter of land on earth.
While this condition may be true in [Deleted by Admin] family home, I have not seen any evidence of this coming true lately in mainstream society, anywhere in the world.
This guy was backing his theories up with evidence much more convincing than the lies of the Global Warming asylum to the rest of the world. He seemed absolutely convinced that his theories were accurate and went on to suggest that we need a nuclear holocaust to prevent it from happening.
I think anyone who believes this, or any kind of propaganda dogshit like it, should do their part, by relieving the rest of us of their misery.
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Actually Global warming is caused by VERY REAL environmental pollution, you and others can choose to try to frame the issue around a topic you feel you can try to refute, but the science doesn't exclude Pollution since the science is actually tying them together as cause and effect, now please get off my nutts you [Deleted by Admin] . You have absolutely no credibility and you have lowered to the level of talking about peoples families, which proves you need to grow some balls. I understand you have some [Deleted by Admin], I am not sure if this is a result of heavy drug use, some type of mental or physical health condition or both but at this point, you really need to get off my nutts boy.
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Involving peoples family in any type of way on a sex forum is disgusting and low, I think you are showing everyone the level of discourse you excel at. No one is being a hypocrite about anything, I have never once attacked anyones family in any way shape or form on this forum, nor have I called anyone a name until I was called one first.
The only little rat here is you, a [Deleted by Admin] excuse for a human being that gets it's kicks out of insulting family.
Your comments have degraded to the level of absurdity, and at this point the only way to get a response is to make personal comments about peoples families.
Get off my nutts you [Deleted by Admin].
PS, I don't set any standards as this is not my website, the one who sets standards is the owner of the website, and you have crossed the line and violated the rules and standards of this forum. Continue as long as you can, your cause is a joke and so are your comments.
Bad
So, it is a dysfunctional upbringing that has scewed your mind to believe mainstream garbage.
You proudly started this flame war, remember, and you have been getting clobbered ever since.
You don't set the flamewar standards here [Deleted by Admin], and you have no standards of your own, other than self serving ones, or aping my comments.
I have never called anyone a dip shit on this forum either, hypocrite, or a nazi propagandist, which really most perfectly describes you. Fashism is what the global warming movement is all about.
What was that again about your family?
LOL
What soft spot would that be? You mean being a human being with some form of self respect. For having enough proper upbringing to know better than to ever attack anyones family? No soft spot there. Just a human being with a sense of decency. You on the other hand are something quite different.
Calling you a [Deleted by Admin], though rat-like in your nature might be a good comparison.
Bad
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Nothing to reply at this point, other than the fact that this forum and it's members do have a certain standard and there are common lines that people have the common sense not to cross, people in general understand what is and isn't off limits. People understand there are consequences to everything. Though enjoy this run, just know your comments crossed the line, but hopefully you will have the sense and the balls to say those things to someone in person, it just might help rid the world of more amoral garbage. And does fruit not fall from the tree? And if that is the case as you state, what does that say about you?
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No tears here, though again, no one needs any apology. What was said was said and it can't be unsaid. You should know that in all cultures around the world, FAMILY is sacred. In every culture it is up to the Man to defend his family, Only rats and pigs insult family. You have not the ability to guage my reaction, since you never actually insulted me in person, had that been the case, you would be singing a very different tune. So again, I hope you one day soon grow the balls suficient to say these things to people in person. Then we will see some tears. The only significant facts we could attain from this level of reaction from you is what type of person you are and just how deep your psychosis runs.
Bad
These aren't MY standards, look around the board to see if there is one instance in ANY post of people attacking someones family. It doesn't happen. The majority of the forum members understand what is crossing the line. And that they will have to eventually meet each other at some point. And a personal comment about another is one thing, insulting innocent family members just to prove ones own perverse mentality, is something quite different.
No tears here, though again, no one needs any apology. What was said was said and it can't be unsaid. You should know that in all cultures around the world, FAMILY is sacred. Nothing feminine about my response, In every culture it is up to the Man to defend his family, Only rats and pigs insult family. You have not the ability to guage my reaction, since you never actually insulted me in person, had that been the case, you would be singing a very different tune. So again, I hope you one day soon grow the balls suficient to say these things to people in person. Then we will see some tears. The only significant facts we could attain from this level of reaction from you is what type of person you are and just how deep your psychosis runs.
BadNow the [Deleted by Admin] is threatening me! What a laugh. If I met you in person, you can be sure that under the same circumstances, I would say the EXACT same things, and worse, directly to your face. I'm holding back on you because after all, we do have an audience.
[Deleted by Admin]
Truth is sacred, not your idiotic interpretation of family values, or your wrong opinions, or the lies of the Global Warming movement.
To attack the family of someone you know nothing about, whose family you do not know, is meaningless, unless of course, by coincidence, there is truth in what is being said, and I suspect that this is the case here.
You're not even smart enough to realize that I was being sarcastic about my apology but hopefully that is sinking in now. No wonder you are so eaily brainwashed.
Thanks for providing a hootload of wonderful entertainment on this fine Saturday afternoon.
What a [Deleted by Admin].
Again, enjoy it, Say what you want over the internet, Once you say them to me in person we will see who breaks what. There are no threats here, only the weak ones coming from you. If you had some balls you would shut your mouth and tell me where to send the welcome wagon.
So until that time, you are making a very big fool of yourself and showing everyone just what a loser piece of shit you really are.
Bad
To attack the family of someone you know nothing about, whose family you do not know, is meaningless, No, it is stupid and in many societies around the world, including Latin America, that kind of behavior will get you killed. No joke, just ask any Porteno what he would do to you if you were ever to make derogatory comments about his family to his face. Chances are you would be getting shipped back to the US in a pine box and he would be doing 5-10 in an Argentina prison.
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The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
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The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
I don't see anyone coming to your defense who shares your opinions. What, no forum buddies after over 500 posts?
Anyway we were getting off track with all this talk about your family problems.
Here once again is the video presentation that sent Badboy into an enviro-religious fanatical tyrate, which then degenerated into hypocritical incoherency. http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4340135300469846467
I will say this one last time, I respect everyones right to post their opinions regarding Global Warming, I also respect everyones right to believe what they want. Go ahead and look back at the comments. My only problem was your comment calling everyone who didn't believe you a bunch of retards. And as you noticed from others that posted, they didn't agree with you either.
Regarding other forum members, there is no need to come to my defense, those that know me understand this.
Bad
And the only one who has problems with families is you, considering the fact that you enjoy trashing them, I would ask what brought you to this level of disdain for them but that is for another forum and probably a question for the guy that writes your prescriptions.
Fucktwat lunatic fanatics propaganda fantasy agenda fueld pile of government dogshit.
Your life would be any less worthless fraudulent shit I love jabbing morons like you in the head shatter your delusional fantasy world watch you writhe in frustration as the only thing giving meaning to you vaporises into thin air.
Your superficial scientific theories are hollow propaganda bunk that even a child should dismiss at utter nonsense. Groping around in the dark sucking up absurd theories turn them into your religiion.
Fuck you, and your stupidity!] Is THIS the " tyrate"? In question? And WTF is a tyrate?
Bad
Is THIS the " tyrate"? In question? And WTF is a tyrate?
BadNo, that is a distorted and and mangled compilation containing elements of some of my reactions to your tirade. Distorted and mangled just like all your other life perceptions.
Want me to go and run your garbage responses through a spell checker? I've spotted plenty of mistakes at first glance already. Like responding to you is worth any attention to detail whatsoever. This is already a total waste of time, entertaining as it might be.
Beside, I have already told you this once before; it will take a lot more than perfect spelling and a thesauraus before you will start making any sense at all.
No, you're the only one who is retarded - Fucktwat:)
Apears you are one of those lunatic fanatics whose whole identity centers around some propaganda fantasy agenda fuel pile of government dogshit.
Not that your life would be any less worthless without some fraudulent shit cause to throw yourself behind. I love jabbing morons like you in the head with reality and to shatter your delusional fantasy world with the facts and watch you writhe in frustration as the only thing giving meaning to you vaporises into thin air.
Your superficial scientific theories are hollow propaganda bunk that even a child should dismiss at utter nonsense at first glance. If you had the ability to think critically, you would also come to that conclusion instead of groping around in the dark sucking up totally absurd theories and turn them into your religiion.
Fuck you, and your stupidity!Actually this is the ENTIRE post. I just picked out the most psychotic bits.
Now if you don't consider this a TYRATE, I don't know what is. I am waiting for the evidence of my TYRATES. You had nothing of substance to say, so YOU resorted to impish name calling. Then you got castrated and now you're just sad.
So keep amusing AP, you [Deleted by Admin].
Bad
I will say this one last time, I respect everyones right to post their opinions regarding Global Warming, I also respect everyones right to believe what they want. Go ahead and look back at the comments. My only problem was your comment calling everyone who didn't believe you a bunch of retards. And as you noticed from others that posted, they didn't agree with you either.
Regarding other forum members, there is no need to come to my defense, those that know me understand this.
Bad.
And the only one who has problems with families is you, considering the fact that you enjoy trashing them, I would ask what brought you to this level of disdain for them but that is for another forum and probably a question for the guy that writes your prescriptions.Not believe me! This has nothing to do with me. I am asking people to believe the evidence. Anyone who rejects the evidence is [Deleted by Admin], like you for example.
Please refrain from further narcissistic attacks by presuming to have any kind of an affect on me with suggestions of sobering me up. It is impossible for you to have an affect on me other than by provoking hysterical fits of laughter and providing me with amusement at your expense.
Thanks
Actually this is the ENTIRE post. I just picked out the most psychotic bits.
Now if you don't consider this a TYRATE, I don't know what is. I am waiting for the evidence of my TYRATES. You had nothing of substance to say, so YOU resorted to impish name calling. Then you got castrated and now you're just sad.
So keep amusing AP, you passive agressive looney little fuck nutt.
Bad[Deleted by Admin] :)
I'm not passive agressive, I'm agressive agressive, whenever I come across some lowly little truth pervert spewing bunk. I put them in their place, just like I have you, and low and behold, in most cases, as in your case, they come from bad family backgrounds. LOL.
It may seem psychotic to you, but it actually is all true, and if you were in the least bit honest with yourself, you would admit it.
Is there a different between calling someone a [Deleted by Admin]? You see, your glaring hypocracy is so easily demonstratable, as are all your other monsterous faults; why do you even bother trying to defend yourself?
You stupid "hypocritical" little boy.
What is your problem Nem? If you believe something, it is your right to believe, if you think a VIDEO will convince the world to think as you do, you are really jaded. Calling people retarding for not thinking like you is retarded.
I haven't seen your video, nor do I want to, there are many videos out their, they all are slanted to fit their narrow views. I can believe what I want and so can you, give it a rest allready and go to another type of website to spout off about your global warming conspiracy theories.
Thanks,
Bad This is my 'TYRATE", A very big difference from the things that come out of your mouth.
BTW, Evidence is in the eye of the beholder. Thousands of scientists disagree with the theories presented in that Channel 4 Durkin Docudrama, You are the narcissistic one, believing that only those that assimilate data to your liking are correct and ALL others are retarded.
You reak of amateurish propaganda.
Bad
Bad Family? Again this isn't the forum for this type of discussion, but for someone to try to trash anothers family denotes a serious hostility to family in general, now what has caused this hostility in you is not for me or for others on this forum to decide or even debate, it is something for the one who writes your prescriptions to deal with. Though your behavior in medical circles is called, PROJECTING, look it up and you will see you are the classic case.
I called you a [Deleted by Admin] as a consequence of your hysterical somewhat psychotic posts. And I think it was an accurate description.
And no, you are not agressive, aggressive people seek out only physical confrontation and would jump at the chance of having a welcome wagon, why? because they love getting their asses kicked. You don't fit the mold. You are a [Deleted by Admin].
This is my 'TYRATE", A very big difference from the things that come out of your mouth.
BTW, Evidence is in the eye of the beholder. Thousands of scientists disagree without only the theories presented in that Channel 4 Durkin Docudrama, You are the narcissistic one, believing that only those that assimilate data to your liking are correct and ALL others are retarded.
You reak of amateurish propaganda.
BadThose scientists do not disagree with the evidence, they just find it more profitable and more advantageous to the advancement of their careers to pretend to do so. Either that, or as the video suggested, they are merely parroting the opinions of other dishonest scientists.
Then, [Deleted by Admin] like you come along, (sorry about the psychotic expression) and actually believe this shit.
There is no money in sound research, only in supporting mainstream opinions. What am I wasting my time trying to explain anything to you.
I have better things to do, so I will leave you in your state of ignorance and stupidity.
You do that [Deleted by Admin] , I and the others here will surely miss the little crazy lady throwing tantrums and sounding insane, but I am sure you will quickly be forgotten. Looking back at your posts, I am sure your content won't be missed. Lets see La Lopez contradictions, American Politics nonsense, and Global warming conspiracy theories? What a big loss.
Bad
Stop telling everyone what they think, the scientists are saying, THEY DISAGREE, I am glad you have found a documentary to pimp, but other than that no one cares. Though if you believe the docudrama is the answer, then good for you.
You do that little lady, I and the others here will surely miss the little crazy lady throwing tantrums and sounding insane, but I sure you will quickly be forgotten. Looking back at your posts, I am sure your content won't be missed. Lets see La Lopez contradictions, American Politics nonsense, and Global warming conspiracy theories? What a big loss.
Bad.
Stop telling everyone what they think, the scientists are saying, THEY DISAGREE, I am glad you have found a documentary to pimp, but other than that no one cares. Though if you believe the docudrama is the answer, then good for you.Your perception is scewed once again. I said I'm done with you, not with the forum. Do you ever even get your own date-of-birth right?
In fact, just for you, I will make an effort to post much more frequently from now on, on a variety of subjects. Won't that be fun?
That depends if the content is useful to other forum members who come here for information on the pay for play scene in Buenos Aires.
Again, WTF is scewed? It seems the only thing that is skewed is your grammar. Now normally this wouldn't be a problem but with a wanabee Einstein that tells everyone what to think, your responses are quite laughable.
Bad
That depends if the content is useful to other forum members who come here for information on the pay for play scene in Buenos Aires.
Again, WTF is scewed? It seems the only thing that is skewed is your grammer. Now normally this wouldn't be a problem but with a wanabee Einstein that tells everyone what to think, your responses are quite laughable.
BadYou're skewed. My grammer? LOL, is that some kind of weight scale I have? What a fucking idiot, and that in the context of critisizing my language skills.
Ran that through a spell checker didn't you? Well spell checkers don't catch context do they? Besides, this is a spelling, and not a grammar issue. Were you brought up in some trailer park of the deep south?
And you were trying to get so much mileage out of spelling errors, weren't you, being that is the only thing you have.
What an abominable moron.
No I don't have a spell checker, But it says very clearly on Jackson's Forum Rules to try not to write chat room style and use proper grammar when possible. Forum Rules? Maybe you should read them sometime. The only "abominable moron" here is you. Context? Have you read yourself lately? You sound like a tourette's patient on crack. NO offense to Tourette's patients, they can't help themselves, you seem to enjoy it. So unless you really meant none of what you said and said ALL of it for shock value, you have some serious psychological issues, passive agressive problems possibly due to a troubled childhood, Some serious hostility towards the family unit, I won't touch that one, That garbage bin you call a mouth, And a certain disdain for the freedom of thought of others. That plus the fact that you haven't said one intelligent thing since you started posting on this forum. Adds up to a real psycho.
Seek professional help.
Proper Grammar? No, mine isn't perfect, I very regulary "fix" my posts. And so do many forum members. The difference is WE aren't calling 85% of the scientific community retards.
No I don't have a spell checker, But it says very clearly on Jackson's Forum Rules to try not to write chat room style and use proper grammer when possible. Forum Rules? Maybe you should read them sometime. The only "abominable moron" here is you. Context? Have you read yourself lately? You sound like a tourette's patient on crack. NO offense to Tourette's patients, they can't help themselves, you seem to enjoy it. So unless you really meant none of what you said and said ALL of it for shock value, you have some serious psychological issues, passive agressive problems possibly due to a troubled childhood, Some serious hostility towards the family unit, I won't touch that one, That garbage bin you call a mouth, And a certain disdain for the freedom of thought of others. That plus the fact that you haven't said one intelligent thing since you started posting on this forum. Adds up to a real psycho.
Seek professional help.
Proper Grammer? No, mine isn't perfect, I very regulary "fix" my posts. And so do many forum members. The difference is WE aren't calling 85% of the scientific community retards.No your grammar isn't perfect, neither is your spelling, nor your opinions, or your intellect, or your perceptions, or your family life etc etc. You just like to point out your own faults in other people.
It all amounts to poor white trailer trash from the deep south, aping, and pointing his soiled and sorded little finger and accusing others of his own faults.
You may never realize it, but you received a royal shit kicking here today, and I will be happy to administer one for you again at any time in the future.
What a [Deleted by Admin].
I guess you read the definition of PROJECTING, I am glad, now that you know the illness maybe you can look for the cure. Or in your case, at least treatment.
The difference between the comments I make and the ones you make is, I make mine based on your posts and their content, you, on the other hand pull things out of a magical hat aka your ass. That leaves people thinking, "Why is this loser making these comments", is it that HE is experiencing these problems and therefore projecting as a form of self medication?
You might want to start a poll to actually decide who won anything. I didn't try to win anything, I just responded to your stupidity and reactionary posts with some truth. You got upset, threw a fit, started name calling, got punked, and now you are trying to convince yourself you won something. Well just a hint here, If you REALLY won anything, you wouldn't have to convince anyone, much less yourself.
As far as white trash is concerned, I am not even going to touch THAT one either, you are as dillusional as you are insane.
Bad.
Originally Posted by Nemesissy
Fucktwat lunatic fanatics propaganda fantasy agenda fueld pile of government dogshit.
Your life would be any less worthless fraudulent shit I love jabbing morons like you in the head shatter your delusional fantasy world watch you writhe in frustration as the only thing giving meaning to you vaporises into thin air.
Your superficial scientific theories are hollow propaganda bunk that even a child should dismiss at utter nonsense. Groping around in the dark sucking up absurd theories turn them into your religiion.
Fuck you, and your stupidity!]. I know you want to badly find a post of mine where I sounded as incoherent as you and that is why you keep posting my responses, but yours took the cake. Again I will nominate it as a post of distinction just to show others what can happen when you mix Crack Cocaine, Alcohol and a serious case of untreated neurosyphilis. And whats up with all the little boy talk ? Is this yet another problem you have?
Alan, weren't you the guy telling everyone to shut up unless personally adressed and asked to comment? Doesn't really work when you feel you have something to add does it?
Anyway, I am not from the school of thought that the term global warming neo nazi equates or refers to Hitler. I meant mostly that some weak minded individuals seem to think they can monopolize public opinion by force and then to resort to attacking and name calling all those that disagree. This is a mentality I see in the neo nazi culture, one of attacking and name calling all that do not look or think as you do. That is all, I would not go down the dark road that is Hitler and ACTUAL fascism. I HAVE loosely used the term FASCISM in the past and when I have I have meant it in the extreme form that Hitler took it to.
But Fascism per say was never a bad word to the USA, In fact we the US supported Mussolini and his fascism against italian communists and we all see how that worked out. If you look at the classic definition of original fascism I. E, before people started making up their own definitions to demonize their political opponents you might find yourself looking into a mirror.
Fascism: corporatism, totalitarianism, nationalism, militarism, and anti-Communism. To put it bluntly fascism is the marriage or merger between corporate profit and government power.
IE, I scratch your back and you scratch mine. Example: Bush administration + Haliburton and Blackwater = War in Iraq = multi trillion dollar deficit for the American tax payers= Big bucks for the oil industry and it's shareholders = big money for the oil lobby = money for government officials willing to play ball = NO TAXES and in fact MANY INCENTIVES for big oil = Global warming? WTF fuck is that, Global warming doesn't exist.
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First of all let's look at your points:
1) A convenient way for "less" developed countries to "control" more developed ones?
Ok, how so, please explain this theory since you seem to be pushing it, how would Paraguay "control" the US? How would admitting that we are a civilization of wasteful polluting individuals and corporations somehow allow less developed countries to control the " more " developed ones?
How would placing restrictions on the levels of carcinogens and pollutants that get thrown into our collective environment impede "more" developed nations? Or maybe you don't mean nations, maybe you refer to CORPORATIONS? If you actually mean CORPORATIONS would be impeded from turning quick profits by polluting underdeveloped nations then I agree, A few lawsuits are underway at the moment against some northern european corporations at the moment, because it seems they have been shipping all their toxic waste to southern african nations and just dumping it in rural areas. I mean if your point is impeding this and other behavior is somehow going to impede a CORPORATIONS right to make a profit, then I would agree, I would also agree that these sovereign "underdeveloped" nations have the right to a clean environment even if it does mean less corporate profits uhh I mean "human development". So maybe you could clarify your point.
2) The politican's perfect dream - TAXATION, the solution to all problems.
Again I am a little confused here, taxation of whom by whom? Do you mean taxation of multibillion, multinational corporations for polluting the very water we drink and the very air we breathe? Do you think that these CORPORATIONS, whose only M. O is to make profits through a Machiavellian mindset, are going to spend their "hard earned" profits to create technology that isn't as wastefull and polluting as their current methods? Do you think it is unfair for the "underdeveloped" countries, that have historically been the dumping grounds for corporate waste, should excercise some control on their environment and resources? Where do you think the majority of raw materials come from? Thats right, those same "underdeveloped" countries. And where do you think all the waste that comes from extracting all those precious materials ends up, thats right those same "underdeveloped" countries. So please explain why taxation of CORPORATIONS that pollute our environment is bad? Please don't tell me that it is because these Corporations will then pass on that tax to us, because the governments that create these taxes can also create safeguards so this won't happen. That is, if the lobbyists aren't the ones writing the new laws.
3) A new career for Al Gore since he was no longer making it in politics?
I am going to take this last point as you just adding some comic levity to the whole topic and that you don't really think thousands of scientists are working round the clock trying to genuinely stop the death of hundreds of millions of people around the globe just so BUSH can tax people, Gore can have some talking points and Paraguay can rule the world? Or is that what you REALLY think?
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I said this before and I will say it again, I am no environmentalist, nor am I a global warming neo nazi, I am a realist, and I realize that I am a part of the ecosystem, I understand that there exists a delicate balance and to tamper with it can and has caused the death of entire species. I do not believe I am above science as I understand science has brought us technology and progress. I understand that I have a responsibility to the future generations to leave them a world that will be worth living in, not a toxic waste dump. Do I think corporate profit margins are an excuse to pollute our land sea and air? Hell no. Dead zones in the Ocean are REAL, they are man made. Toxic Land Fills are real, or are those cyclical too? Toxic clouds above heavily industrialized cities are real. Acid rain is real. Excessive levels of pulmonary problems in children living in dense metropolitan and or industrialized areas is real. Lead poisoning is REAL. Mercury filled rivers and soil in areas where precious metals are extracted is real. Lead in the groundwater and soil because of improper underground fuel storage tanks is real. A dwindling supply of fresh drinking water is REAL. The shrinking Amazon rain forest is real. If Humans cannot live WITHOUT fresh drinking water, what do you think will happen to the ones that cannot afford to buy bottled water once all their rivers lakes and estuaries have been polluted beyond repair? I guess this is a hoax just to tax people right?
None of these things are abstracts, But I have said in the past, people can and will believe what they want, to their own detriment. I personally think we will experience a nuclear winter before we have to really worry about the next 100 years. So it really doesn't matter, I will continue to do my part as a thoughtful realistic individual. A world where CORPORATIONS and their profits rule supreme, and governments aide them just for political contributions and the wealthy elite pimp them just so there is never a disruption in their stock portfolio profits to the detriment of not only our civilization but to our shared environment isn't the kind of world I want to live in. But who cares, I will continue to live and let live until the time when our uncommon interests collide. Til then I hope all you guys keep eating top notch steaks, drinking top notch wine and banging a new hottie every day.
Bad,
Bad,
Lets look at the first sentence in your last post to me. Where's the honesty here? How do you expect me or any other independent thinker to be swayed by your arguments when you can't even recount our previous interaction accurately?
Alan, weren't you the guy telling everyone to shut up unless personally adressed and asked to comment? Doesn't really work when you feel you have something to add does it? Bad, I addressed you by name - not EVERYONE, and I ask you to "mind your own business" - not shut up. So what is the point in responding to you? So you can call me a "looney fuck nutt" or a "wanabee online pussy", like you have other board members? No thanks.
I will respond for the benefit of other board members.
1. By looking at the examples of the Montreal and Kyoto protocols, it is standard practice for the United Nations and it's minions to apply restrictions to developed countries while exempting or deferring restrictions to under-developed countries. All done under the guise of allowing the under-developed countries to "catch-up" or their ability to comply. Rest assured that "powder-blue" helmeted soldiers in white tanks won't be enforcing anything! This boils down to the classic power struggle between the have and have-not nations. The only way, using BadBoy's example that Paraguay can have any control over nations such as the USA, Western Europe, or Japan.
For an interesting read on smuggling, with regards to under-developed nations thumbing their noses at restricted or "controlled" nations. http://outside.away.com/outside/magazine/0897/9708freon.html It's from August 1997, providing some pretty good examples of what nations like Mexico and Russia consider fair play.
BadBoy rails on about those nasty corporations raping the 3rd world. Right, Union Carbide was in Bopal without an invitation (ask Coca-cola about being booted out so as not to compete with the local "Thumbs-up" cola) Every time a "Western multinational" corporation shows up in some 3rd world country - rest assured plenty of palms have been greased. It may be something practiced in the east and west - but perfected in the 3rd world. More on BadBoy's corporation bashing later.
2. I thought the concept of taxation was pretty simple - maybe not. Most people support the concept of limited taxation to support limited infrastructure and national needs (roads, bridges, national defense, border protection, etc. But taxation for the purpose of "social engineering" serves no one but the politician. Badboy ask who would be taxing who? Governments taxing their own citizens, and the UN's ultimate desire to tax "world citizens". In Badboy's post to me, he mentioned "individuals" once and "corporations" 10 times. Obviously he does not realize that corporations are made up of individuals - for better or for worse. When Enron imploded a corporation was not hurt, but individuals in the form of employees and shareholders (your grandparents with their life savings) How about Arthur Andersen, those were 85,000 individuals - not a nasty corporation. Just like governments, people get the corporations that they deserve. By the way, BadBoy did NOT mention that one case of toxic "dumping" occurred in Zambia - where radioactive beef had been sent from a former Eastern Bloc country. What kind of a quasi-state owned corporation would do that, maybe it was just an honest mistake?
So let's look at a few examples of taxes that I flatly reject:
-Airline Passenger taxes $80 in Europe, because some scientist thinks high-level emissions are disproportionately adverse.
-Bar-be-que grilling (Parrilla) $27
-Taxing farmers because their livestock belches and farts.
All awhile 2.4 Billion individuals and corporations / governments of China and India are telling the rest of the world to piss up a rope. I'm not buying it!
Who will get this money, what will it be used for? What will it be "earmarked" for, is the general fund acceptable? Possibly operated on the same guidelines as the UN's "Food for Oil" program? No Thanks!
3. This was only a little comic levity. But now that BadBoy has brought it up, I do believe that there are "scientists" who are working hard to keep the Goose laying those golden eggs. Guys who in the past could not get a $50,000 grant are now raking in $5,000,000 grants. Not to mention their enjoyment of having a place at the microphone. It is always free-game to question everyone's motives.
I have made it clear in my past posts that I believe in conservation - I think the environment should be protected. However I do not support the notion that the developed world should shoulder a greater burden than the rest of the world. The issue of environment damage is a people problem, not to be confused with the current day fade of "climate change" - which there is not enough data about.
Your fan club is responding and seems to have the same opinion of you.
I told you bad, incoherent diatribe. When are you going to believe me?
Chucks
Alan,
Let's look at the first sentences of your post, where is the honesty here? How do you expect me or any other independent thinker to be swayed by your arguments when you can't even recount my previous interaction accurately?
So you can call me a "looney fuck nutt" or a "wanabee online pussy", like you have other board members? I never once called you those things or anyone else on this forum except One member not other board MEMBERS, as in plural. And you also fail to mention where and from whom the name calling began. I don't see the point in rehashing that flame other than you want to start off on the wrong foot and maybe defend someone whose opinions you share. Yet you only comment on my retorts and not the other members initial attacks. You stayed, very intelligently, out of that argument, why inject yourself now, and in such a dishonest and biased way? Also if you recall our previous conversation in all honesty you will remember you were at fault, I very respectfully clarified a point and you attacked me. That attack was obvious to a few members. And you have yet to admit you were out of line. Though again, why rehash old arguments? Why play the victim?
Anyway, I will respond to your comments in a respectful way since my question towards you were posted in a fully polite manner.
You have yet to give any concrete example of what you meant by saying under developed nations would control the US, how does this happen? You mean since they will be given more time to catch up technologically they will somehow control the US? How is that?
Bhopal? You have the cynicism to actually say since they were allowed to operate in the country they had the right to do what they did? Are you serious about that? I didn't even bring up any specifics, but to name such a horrible and tragic event and excuse it in such a careless way? I will give some history for those that don't know what Alan23 is talking about.
"""""On December 3, 1984, a Union Carbide plant in Bhopal leaked 40 tons of toxic methyl isocyanate gas, leading to the Bhopal disaster. The BBC gives the death toll as nearly 3,000 people dead initially, and at least 15,000 from related illnesses since. Greenpeace cites 20,000 total deaths as its conservative estimate. Bhopal is frequently cited as the world's worst industrial disaster""""""""""""""""
As a side note, There are thousands that didn't die but have had serious life altering health damage ever since. This particular CORPORATION never cleaned up the spill.
Here is a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_Disaster
And if greasing palms was perfected by corporations in the 3rd world nations, who perfected it? Maybe the corporations, ever think of that? Also what does the back alley dealings of corrupt government officials and sleazy corporate hacks have to do with the general populations in those countries and the effects that pollution from large multinationals have on them? You are skirting the issue and talking nonsense about government corrruption, what does this have to do with your first baseless point??
Still waiting for you to clarify.
2) Taxation, A corporation is NOT a collective, and the collective does not decide on the corporations business standards. Maybe if that were true, corporate heads wouldn't be making 100 times what the average worker makes. Nor would they be cutting corners to the detriment of average workers or the environment. I am also glad YOU brought up Enron, that showed very clearly that a Corporation is not about the workers who work for it. Last time I checked is was those same high priced thieves aka corporate heads who robbed the workers blind. This is the same corporation who also robbed californians blind. A corporation like this is for the people and by the people? Give me a break. If these corporations are getting taxed, take that money from the corrupt Executives exorbitant salaries and leave the workers meager earnings alone. At least that is what would happen if a corporation was actually for the people and by the people. Having multibillion dollar corporations hiding behind their underpayed, and underprotected work force is a joke. With all the government subsidies farmers and big agro business get, in a highly non free market protectionist industry, they can deal with a little C02 taxation. Now to say ALL Taxation on corporations that pollute our environment is bad because government subsidized farmers have to pay a fart tax is rediculous.
I don't mind paying a tax if it means higher corporate responsibility over the air, land and water they pollute and destroy. We are obviously at odds about this and that is ok, If taxation means my future progeny will inherit a clean healthy planet, then what's wrong with it.
You have brought up a few good points though, what to do about big players like India and China and also what to do about Government corruption. You have a good point there, none of this means Corporations that pollute and destroy our environment shouldn't be taxed. This does bring up some questions that DO need some serious answers. But to every problem, there is a solution. Again, we do and will always disagree, I don't mind taxes that actually go to SOMETHING, at the moment, the government takes around 35% of my earnings, and the public schools are crap, Colleges are getting more and more expensive, school teacher salaries are still a joke, there is no true public health care, all our tax dollars are going to Iraq and Afghanistan, Haliburton, Blackwater et al. I see you have a problem with the UN getting your money but Haliburton Blackwater Lockheed Northrup seem to be a good investment right? My thinking is the exact opposite so I doubt we will ever come to terms, though it says one thing, You aren't wrong in your way of thinking and neither am I, since we obviously have different objectives. I think a corporation is there to serve the people not destroy our environment, You seem to have the notion that what is good for Corporations is good for America.
3) I won't take this one too seriously as you yourself have said you meant it as a joke, but here goes. All scientists get paid for research, those that tell you smoking causes cancer get paid for it, those that USED to tell you smoking didn't cause you cancer and were bought and paid for by CORPORATIONS were no different. The data is out there, more volumes than you and I both could EVER read. It is something we all have to assimilate for ourselves. I believe the research to be credible, you don't and that is OK. I guess we won't know until one of us tells the other " I told you so ". I think nothing will change, though I hope that is not the case.
Great burden? With great power comes great responsibility, I think it was Stan Lee who said that. And he was right. The major corporations who reap the largest rewards are the biggest polluters, and they should pay the most, it isn't about nations but corporations, nations aren't the ones dumping toxic waste in our water air and land. Do corporations need to be taxed in order for them to stop, YES. No matter what nation they happen to be incorporated in.
Bad.
People in general and Americans in particular are a hard headed bunch. How do you get them to stop speeding? Do you ask them nicely to refrain from doing it? No, you fine the hell out of them. If someone getting a ticket would say " what about those guys in Argentina, they don't pay speeding tickets?" I imagine the Officer informing the speeder, that he isn't IN Argentina. Same applies here. The only way we will get Corporations to stop needlessly destroying our environment is by taxing them. This might increase costs in the short term, but in the long term, we will have a cleaner industry and a healthier population and environment. If I get all that and all I have to do is pay some CO2 tax, then I am all for it.
People in general and Americans in particular are a hard headed bunch. How do you get them to stop speeding? Do you ask them nicely to refrain from doing it? No, you fine the hell out of them. If someone getting a ticket would say " what about those guys in Argentina, they don't pay speeding tickets?" I imagine the Officer informing the speeder, that he isn't IN Argentina. Same applies here. The only way we will get Corporations to stop needlessly destroying our environment is by taxing them. This might increase costs in the short term, but in the long term, we will have a cleaner industry and a healthier population and environment. If I get all that and all I have to do is pay some CO2 tax, then I am all for it.Another way we can help is to find out which corporations are the high poluters and ban them. I know that is easier said than done, but if people stopped using a corporation's products it will hurt them financially.
I have made it clear in my past posts that I believe in conservation - I think the environment should be protected. However I do not support the notion that the developed world should shoulder a greater burden than the rest of the world. The issue of environment damage is a people problem, not to be confused with the current day fade of "climate change" - which there is not enough data about.It's a fact that richer, more developed countries protect their environments much better than poorer, less developed countries. "Pollutuion" of all kinds in the US has dropped tremendously in the last 40 years. So much so that the stuff you exhale from your lungs is now classified by some as a "pollutant" that's destroying the world.
Dirk Diggler shows off how these people feel when he gleefully says the upside of global warming is that it'll kill off most human beings. Somehow I don't think he includes himself as deserving of that, but if it happens to other people, it's just fine.
So for some people like Al Gore the "solution" is to make the world poorer and less developed. Excellent logic, no?
That might be true and all Hunt but they also cause a greater amount of pollution. The US and the EU alone account for 40% of the worlds industrial CO2 emissions. The US alone accounts for 25% of air pollution. Now they shouldn't be accountable for a disproportionate amount of the solution, but they should be accountable for their 25%. Which, I think, is the point.
And I don't think anyone is seriously happy about Humanity killing itself off, But if the nuclear weapons don't kill us then the lack of clean drinking water and man made climate change will.
Bad
The US accounts for 25%, the EU 15%, China 15%, Japan 5%, Russia 5%, India 5%, That is a total of 70%, why should the rest of the world be responsible for more than what they pollute. I just named the biggest dirty birds, they also happen to be the countries with the highest GDP's. They can afford to clean up their industry that pollutes and destroys the ENTIRE worlds environment.
BB13, CO2 is not a pollutant, despite what Al Gore says. It's a naturally-generated substance which you blow out of your lungs and which trees need as an essential nutrient. Ask a biologist for further details.
But if you think CO2 is just a bad thing, then consider that the oceanic CO2 levels in the North Pacific are much higher than the oceanic CO2 levels in the North Atlantic. Prevailing winds in the Northern Hemisphere blow from West to East. In other words, North America is a CO2 sink, absorbing the excess CO2 generated in East Asia.
In order to generate more ethanol to burn instead of fossil fuels, North America would have to cut down forests and level savannah in order to plant corn. The relative lack of cultivated agriculture is probably the reason why North America absorbs so much carbon. Creating corn fields for ethanol would make CO2 absorbtion go down.
It's facts like this that make the Al Gores of the world look like dumbasses to those of us who have a more benign view of mankind.
Details of the carbon sink effect here:
http://www.princeton.edu/~compub/pwb/98/1026/carbon.htm
StrayLight
04-09-07, 16:43
BB13, CO2 is not a pollutant.Up to a certain point you are correct, but only up to a certain point.
Humans need oxygen to live, but too much oxygen under certain circumstances (i.e., elevated partial pressures) can kill a human.
Humans need water to live, but drinking too much water too quickly can induce hyponatremia and kill a human.
It's true, CO2 is produced naturally, and has a place in the ecological scheme of things. But only in balance and proportion. Beyond a certain point, it's more than likely going to be as harmful to the environment as excess oxygen or water can be to a human.
Hunt,
I know what CO2 is, and the truth is, how do YOU define a pollutant? Because anything chemical that is harmful to the environment and or humans is considered a pollutant. And also when you talk about Industrial pollution and man made carbon emissions, you are NEVER just talking about CO2, you also have that lovely stuff that spews out of your cars aka CO, much more harmful, yet very similiar in composition to CO2. Here a pretty easy definition.
Pollutant:
Many of the compounds which are dangerous to the environment can also be harmful to humans in the long-term range and come from mineral and fossil sources or are produced by humans themselves.
Many pollutants have a poisonous effect on the body. Carbon monoxide is an example of a substance which is damaging to humans. This compound is taken up in the body in preference to oxygen, causing the body to suffocate and in severe cases may lead to death.
Some pollutants became dangerous by reaction with other naturally occurring compounds. The oxides of nitrogen and sulfur are released from impurities in fossil fuels when they are burnt. They react with water vapor in the atmosphere to become acid rain. Acid rain damages buildings and makes lakes uninhabitable.
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Any chemical that is produced in excess and then dumped into our natural environment in an unatural way is a pollutant. Read up on that.
As far as ethonol is concerned, I don't believe in growing food to feed cars instead of people, so we are in agreement on that, I guess you and Fidel have something in common. What needs to be done is, governments HAVE to crack down on automakers. These corporations have the technology to manufacture hydrogen fueled cars, cleaner more efficient running fossil fuel vehicles as well, they don't build them because the government doesn't make them, because of the automobile and petrol lobbies in washington. Plain and simple, CORRUPTION.
Bad
In the US, air pollution of all types has all been going down steadily for a long time.
These include:
CO
O3
Pb
NO2
Particle Matter
SO2
Data here:
http://www.epa.gov/air/airtrends/sixpoll.html
Click on the left column to look at pollutant-specific trends that are graphed over time.
Of course, people think just the opposite, that things are bad and getting worse. This is a triumph of scare-mongering over fact. This is discussed here:
http://www.cleanairprogress.org/clean-air-pollution/air-pollution-statistics.asp
That last site is an excellent repository of facts, as opposed to Al Gore spin.
First of all What does Al Gore have anything to do with this? The truth is I think it's great he is talking about Global Warming, BUT, I have never once heard anything he has said regarding it.
I never said any numbers were going up, when did I say that? Please reference that FACT. The numbers could be MUCH lower if the government was enacting and enforcing tougher laws. Next thing you will do is tell me The Clear Skies Initiative, which castrated the Clean Air Act, is a good thing, right?
The Clear Skies Initiave.
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The law mildly reduces air pollution controls, including those environmental protections of the Clean Air Act, including caps on toxins in the air and budget cuts for enforcement. The Act is opposed by conservationist groups such as the Sierra Club with Henry A. Waxman, a Democratic congressman of California, describing its title as "clear propaganda." In some cases, the difference between existing laws and the Clear Skies Act is as little as 3%.
Among other things, the Clear Skies Act:
Allows 42 million more tons of pollution emitted than the EPA proposal.
Weakens controls on mercury pollution levels compared to what would be achieved by enforcing the Clean Air Act stringently.
Weakens the current cap on nitrogen oxide pollution levels from 1.25 million tons to 2.1 million tons, allowing 68 % more NOx pollution.
Delays the improvement of sulfur dioxide (SO2) pollution levels compared to the Clean Air Act requirements.
Delays enforcement of smog-and-soot pollution standards until 2015.
By 2018, the Clear Skies Act will supposedly allow 3 million tons more NOx through 2012 and 8 million more by 2020, for SO2, 18 million tons more through 2012 and 34 million tons more through 2020. 58 tons more mercury through 2012 and 163 tons more through 2020 would be released into the environment than what would be allowed by enforcement of the Clean Air Act.
In August 2001, the EPA proposed a version of the Clear Skies Act that contained short timetables and lower emissions caps. It is unknown why this proposal was withdrawn and replaced with the more industry-friendly Bush Administration proposal. It is also unclear whether or not the original EPA proposal would have made it out of committee.
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Bad
But since 1970 in the US, lead air pollution is down 96% , carbon monoxide is down 50% , and sulfur dioxide is down 42%.
And all this while the US population has grown 42% , the number of vehicle miles driven has grown 151% , and the US economy has grown 175%.
Reported by credible mainstream scientists. Could be a big problem. Let's get all the enviro-mental-cases to go and save it.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html
Pretty much echoing the prominent voices of the Durkin video.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4f4_1176545472
Global Warming, a flat earth theory generally accepted by people like these.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c36_1176530107
StrayLight
04-14-07, 20:50
Nemesis,
Two questions.
There seems to be a lot of scientists saying that human activity is a significant factor contributing to global warming.
1. Are you saying that the notion that human activity is a significant factor contributing to global warming is flat out false, or simply that the odds of it being true are small?
2. In an earlier post, I seem to recall you saying that all these scientist are jumping on the global warming bandwagon to get funding. Since (in the U. S. At least) a Republican, anti-global warming administration controls government funding (e. g. National Science Foundation) and has controlled it since the year 2000, how do you account for so many scientists falling in line with this theory?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
Nemesis,
Two questions.
There seems to be a lot of scientists saying that human activity is a significant factor contributing to global warming.
1. Are you saying that the notion that human activity is a significant factor contributing to global warming is flat out false, or simply that the odds of it being true are small?
2. In an earlier post, I seem to recall you saying that all these scientist are jumping on the global warming bandwagon to get funding. Since (in the U. S. At least) a Republican, anti-global warming administration controls government funding (e. G. National Science Foundation) and has controlled it since the year 2000, how do you account for so many scientists falling in line with this theory?
Thanks in advance for your answers.Hello StrayLight,
Have a look at the attached video. It answers those questions in more detail.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4340135300469846467
I'm saying that greenhouse gases do not contribute to the global warming phenomena in any way, but even if they did, which they do not, the human contribution to greenhouse gases is so negligible, in comparison to natural causative factors, that it should not be considered as a contributing factor at all.
In other words, human activity could not possibly have anything to do with the global warming theory.
The author of the video, like anyone taking a strong position against mainstream theories, has been the subject of an intensive smear campaign, but the evidenced speaks for itself. The many prominent scientists and other credible voices featured in the program, are unmistakably against the global warming hoax.
With the exception of a Dr Wunsch, who provided evidence that the oceans, not volcano's, produce the largest amount of Co2 gas, without realizing that his evidence would be used against the global warming theory, and thereafter complained about being taken out of context. Well, he was not quoted out of context, the evidence was used within the context of disproving global warming without his prior knowledge. Big big difference.
I could go on. Watch the video for yourself and let me know what you think.
I wouldn't say the Republicans are anti global warming. They are certainly not claiming global warming to be a hoax. They may pretend to be somewhat against it, while public opinion is still opposed to eco fashism measure, but rest assured that this is just another facade and that the allegiance of any political party will always be to the special interest groups that control it.
Who really knows how many true scientists support this theory. None in the Durkin video do, and I find it impossible to believe that any intelligence human beings, educated in this area, would legitimately support such a theory other than for political or financial gain.
Here is another example of what can happen when a society becomes irrational and confused with too much false information.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f9a_1176600810
I am sure that answered your questions Stray. I mean we all find it " impossible to believe that any intelligence human beings, educated in this area, would legitimately support such a theory other than for political or financial gain." Don't you?
Bad
Here's some vintage Global warming video.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0lgzz-L7GFg
Here's another one, since I got nothing better to do than post youtube global warming videos, I am sure it will convince you all ;)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GlmdhoERVgo&mode=related&search=
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For all the Lou Dobbs lovers.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PRc33Ow2di0
" I find it impossible to believe that any intelligence human beings, educated in this area, would legitimately support such a theory other than for political or financial gain. "
These guys must be making millions.
Bad
That a week ago, those stupid fucks were telling me this was going to be a nice, warm, sunny weekend. It is bone-chilling cold and we've had 6 inches of rain and counting. It's the coldest April in 125 years.
They can't tell what the weather is going to be a week in advance, but they can tell me what the weather is going to be in 50 years?
Right. And I won't cum in your mouth, chica.
Here's some vintage Global warming video.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0lgzz-L7GFg
Here's another one, since I got nothing better to do than post youtube global warming videos, I am sure it will convince you all ;)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GlmdhoERVgo&mode=related&search=
BadLOL.
Could you have found anything more Romper Room! 1958, what is that the birthdate of your firstborn?
I think you are entitled to have your own opinion Hunt, I promise not to call you a retard for voicing it;)
I agree with a fe things here, I have spent the last few winters in Europe and they will tell you that statistically there is much less snow every year, but every now and then they will have a few winters that defy the norm. I would definitely like to cum in some of those hot weather girls mouths though:D, but that's just me.
Bad
For all the Lou Dobbs lovers.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PRc33Ow2di0
" I find it impossible to believe that any intelligence human beings, educated in this area, would legitimately support such a theory other than for political or financial gain. "
These guys must be making millions.
BadWhat a bunch of bumbling fucks? No substance in this whatsoever LOL They seem qualified to render an opinion on the color of their socks.
I think you are entitled to have your own opinion Hunt, I promise not to call you a retard for voicing it;)
I agree with a fe things here, I have spent the last few winters in Europe and they will tell you that statistically there is much less snow every year, but every now and then they will have a few winters that defy the norm. I would definitely like to cum in some of those hot weather girls mouths though:D, but that's just me.
Bad
Well ****Boy13,
I promise to call you ********* for having your wrong opinion.
What a ********** little boy. LOL
I don't think I was talking to you, get off my nutts allready unless you feel like having more of your crazy posts deleted.
Understand, I am through talking to you unless you are going to act like a grown MAN, I don't talk to scared online bitches.
Thanks,
Bad
Hey Jackson,
Can you do the forum a favor and just BAN this Moron,.
Bad
Deleted? You mean like this post of yours? Now he's running to Jackson to help him out. Between that, and sounding like a broken record, you really should resign from this forum voluntarily.
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The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
Running to Jackson? Do you have a problem with the forum owner deleting posts by crazy fucks that do nothing but fill his forum with bullshit propaganda? I think Jackson is running a SEX forum, so if you are going to contribute to that then be our guest, if you are going to spew propaganda and insult forum members on a forum and say you only do it because no one knows who you are, I would definitely retire from the forum if I were you, or on second thought, your only presence on this forum has been the global warming thread, so if that goes, I guess so do you.
Keep it up, I imagine some banning will soon follow.
Bad
Running to Jackson? Do you have a problem with the forum owner deleting posts by crazy fucks that do nothing but fill his forum with bullshit propaganda? I think Jackson is running a SEX forum, so if you are going to contribute to that then be our guest, if you are going to spew propaganda and insult forum members on a forum and say you only do it because no one knows who you are, I would definitely retire from the forum if I were you, or on second thought, your only presence on this forum has been the global warming thread, so if that goes, I guess so do you.
Keep it up, I imagine some banning will soon follow.
BadSex forum! Right, then why are you posting incoherent garbage in a this thread? Hypocrite. You parrot the same incoherent garbage over and over again, that's when you're not aping my comments.
You also started with the insults. I just happened to finish you with them.
Hypocrite hypocrite hypocrite. Keep imaginging, that's the only thing you're good at.
You are a real dillusional lunatic, you just want to talk shit. No one insulted anyone here except you. I wasn't even talking to you and if you will stop talking to me I won't even direct one last word to you.
Aping and parroting? You said that many times before, get new material. You aren't worth talkking to and if the feeling is mutual, then stop talking to me, I will gladly reciprocate.
But if you continue to cross the line you and your insane comments will get deleted. Not because I want them to, but because you are acting like an online troll. Add to the forum. And respect other forum members and their opinions. Or leave, you will not be missed.
Bad
Sex forum! RightYou also started with the insults. I just happened to finish you with them. YES. SEX FORUM.
Insults? I wasn't even talking to you. And the only thing you finished is your last bottle of prozac.
Bad
Like I said, aping, parroting, incoherent hypocracies from an enviro mental case.
Like I have also said, nothing I post here is for your benefit, or has anything to do with you. It is entirely for the remaining membership.
Please feel free not to respond to my posts with more incoherent nonsensical rants about a flath earth theory, or anything else you might wish to projectile vomit into this forum.
Please feel free not to respond to my posts with more incoherent nonsensical rants about a flath earth theory, or anything else you might wish to projectile vomit electronically into this forum.Uhhh? Yeah Sure WHATEVER.
Like I have also said, nothing I post here is for your benefit, or has anything to do with you. It is entirely for the remaining membership. I know you are too much of an infantile narcissist for this to ever sink in.
Oh really ?
LOL.
Could you have found anything more Romper Room! 1958, what is that the birthdate of your firstborn?
What a bunch of bumbling fucks? No substance in this whatsoever LOL They seem qualified to render an opinion on the color of their socks.
Well ****Boy13,
I promise to call you ********* for having your wrong opinion.
What a ********** little boy. LOLAll this without anyone even saying one word to you. Hmmm. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
I am sure the forum membership that comes here to get information on the P4P scene in Argentina will have gained from so much from these comments.
RRRRRIGHHHT.
Bad
This is a pretty funny one I just found, I am sure the Republicans on the forum will enjoy it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nxpEqln5EdQ
BadMuch more convincing than his other videos.
DISCLAIMER.
This post is for the benefit of everyone else and is not to be construed a response to LittleBoy13YearsOld
This is a pretty funny one I just found, I am sure the Republicans on the forum will enjoy it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nxpEqln5EdQ
Bad
How did this benefit anyone? Discerning forum members would like to know.Are you talking to me SillyBoy13YearsOld?
Much more convincing than his other videos.
DISCLAIMER.
This post is for the benefit of everyone else and is not to be construed a response to LittleBoy13YearsOld How did this benefit anyone? Discerning forum members would like to know.
PS, anyone who actually benefited from this post please reply.
I am not looking for responses from any half a fag anonymous lunatics.
Bad
Then they have to read about some SillBoy posting incoherent rants about a flat earth theory. Tisk Tisk Tisk.
Can you say hypocrite, hypocrite? Of course some people are kind of stupid and don't know the meaning of that word.
DISCLAIMER. This is not for the benefit of silly little boy's about 13 years of age.At least it dropped the part about " is for the benefit of everyone else ". I am starting to wonder about all the little boy comments, sounds disturbing to me. No wonder there aren't any posts in its name about actual chica fucking in BA, only global warming and little boy talk.
Bad
That does not include stupid, silly, ignorant, and inbred little boys, who come from disatvantaged family backgrounds. How is that family of yours? Trailer holdin up?:) Disatvantaged? Is that one of the hillbilly words they taught you at the trailer park you keep braggin about? My Family? Again with those faggot comments of yours. Next time you insult a mans family have the courage to do it to his face, Again, if you will to hand out your address so I can answer those questions for you in person I will be happy to do so. Til then, stop talking about families, it is obvious something very bad happened to you when you were young and that is why you talk the way you do, but the forum isn't a place for these types of confessions, so give it a rest will you.
Bad
ROFLMAO.
You name implies everything we need to know about your sexual habits. Anyone wonder how it is possible for this trailer trash mouth piece to always bugger his own hole?
I think your globe may be warming right about now into ten shades of red:)
What a foolish little boy, about 13 years of age.Bugger his own hole? WTF is that shit, who the fuck says that? Are you that ancient?
IF this ***** is attacking all forum members who have the word boy in their handle then he is making quite a big list. The only difference between us and HIM, is hee keeps talkking about little boys, something the rest of us on this forum DO NOT DO. And again, he seems to fantasize about insulting little boys about " 13 years of age " What a sick fucking troll.
Nice try, to badd you are too stupid when you are getting called oout on your own strange sexual proclivities. The only thing warming is your ass everytime you think about " a foolish little boy, about 13 years of age ". Keep em coming, I am on a roll.
Bad
LOL, hittin that soft spot again are we? Aping, and parroting, aping and parroting. Give me your address, and I will stop by and say it to your face. Just make sure you have all your neighbours on the reservation flush their toilets for a change before I stop by. I am sure you are only fronting, so Again, give me your address so you can say those words to my face, like a man and not a online faggot troll. I can be there within 5 minutes. And if you aren't half a fag like you comments suggest, you will be here within 20 minutes yourself. My guess is you are just talking because you THINK you will never have to answer for these words in person. Seems nice being hundreds of miles away doesn't it? I bet you feel real safe right? Safe enough to talkk all the trash you want. Just wait til you hit argie soil you little *****, a few well placed pesos and I will be thanking you in person very soon.
Bad
Again you keep repeating yourself, we allready heard about your gay 13 year old boy fetish, you keep talking about them, so please continue, stop PROJECTING you strange habits onto other forum members that don't talk about little boys like you do.
WTF? Reservation? Who the fuck said anything about a reservation? Don't Native Americans live on Reservations? Are you making Rascist remarks now too? Oh man not only are you a confessed pedophile but now a racist, what's next? Don't tell us you fuck pigs too? Folks? Who the fuck says that shit? It sounds more and more like you are some strange country bumpkin internet troll.
Again, stop telling everyone your strange fantasies about ass canning 13 year old boys.
But in all honesty you are getting fucking destroyed here, and the minute your pussy ass surfaces in BA, you will be getting that ass canned raw for real. So please continue. I won't forget.
Bad.
It's not the boy, it's the 13 year old boy. Nice obfuscation attempt, but not good enough to get past me. Not too many people on this forum dream about having sex with 13 year old boys and make a handle out of it. That is the only thing unique about you.
Course, back at the family home, on the reservation, that sort of thing is the order of the day, isn't it? I take it your folks are in jail then? I'm really starting to fitgure you out.
Oh, you're getting your ass caned raw again, just like what happened a couple of weeks ago, and that in the sight of all.
LOL
HAHA, you little *****, don't worry don't come any time soon I would rather you forget about all of this before next time you come. But thanks for first, admitting you only do this because no one on the forum knows you and secondly, NOW you tell us you aren't even in BA, since you aren't in BA, and you don't have anything to add to the forum with regards to women, sex, food or wine, why don't you just retire your used up ass.
And I don't know anything about parents or " the res ". But I do remember giving your mom a good ass reaming the other night. She kinda looks like one of the chicks Exon keeps chasing in the park, but since she was your mom and all I was forced to " cum in her mouth ". I hope you didn't kiss her after that?
Bad
StrayLight
04-15-07, 21:36
That a week ago, those stupid fucks were telling me this was going to be a nice, warm, sunny weekend. It is bone-chilling cold and we've had 6 inches of rain and counting. It's the coldest April in 125 years.
They can't tell what the weather is going to be a week in advance, but they can tell me what the weather is going to be in 50 years?
Right. And I won't cum in your mouth, chica.No offense, Hunt, but that's pretty lame, particularly coming from you.
You've made a lot of posts regarding your activities as an investor. When you do research on a company, and have a firm belief that the PPS will rise 50% over a given long-term time period, does that in any way imply that you know what it will do in the next week or two? Does it in any way imply that it won't actually dip at times along the way before finally reaching the PPS you projected?
Ben Graham said, "In the short-term, the market is a voting machine; in the long-term, it is a weighing machine."
Don't you think that short-term vs long-term disparities exist anywhere else in the universe? (Hint: Mark Twain said, "Climate is what we expect; weather is what we get.")
Look at this raging monkey doing the spunkey. ROFLMAO. Wow, this is who you really are, for everyone to plainly see. I'm glad I could be of service to provide this revelation to everyone here who knows you by name.
What a crazy little boy, about 13 yeras of age. Yes, I said all of that, and those that READ can read what context I said it in, I still think you are strange becuase you keep calling forum members " 13 year old boys ". But hey, that's just me.
And you are a pussy ass faggot, and you will be getting ass canned raw if I ever see you in person. So I don't understand why you are " aping and parroting" my posts. As if I was somehow ashamed of them. NO, that was the way YOU handled the situation.
Again, Come on down any time, I am sure me and all the people in the Las Canitas " res " will give you a warm welcome.
Yes, I said all of that, and those that READ can read what context I said it in, I still think you are strange becuase you keep calling forum members " 13 year old boys ". But hey, that's just me.
And you are a pussy ass faggot, and you will be getting ass canned raw if I ever see you in person. So I don't understand why you are " aping and parroting" my posts. As if I was somehow ashamed of them. NO, that was the way YOU handled the situation.
Again, Come on down any time, I am sure me and all the people in the Las Canitas " res " will give you a warm welcome.Blah blah blup blubber blah bleep blubb. LOL.
What a pile of incoherent dog shit.
Making calls? Is that all, why don't you show your face and stop hiding behind phone calls. Beet red? RRRRRIGHHT, I have yet to " ask " about you, because it seems you are conspicuously absent, though I assure you, I am in every position to make you eat those words. And you can have your " friend " defend you any time.
Again, I don't know what all the native american reservation comments are for, though I guess silly faggots like you have to attack someone. Though online pussies talking shit from thousands of miles away really make me laugh.
Any time you ass wants to get checked, make sure to look me up, if by your next trip to BA, you haven't showed your face, the WHOLE forum will know you are nothing but a silly shit talking *****.
I would just love kick your teeth in, please don't disapoint, I will even bring the camera, just don't go running to the authorities, I am sure they won't help.
Bad
I still think you are strange becuase you keep calling forum members " 13 year old boys ". But hey, that's just me.
.Well, it is common chat room etiquette to append your age to the end of your handle. At least what you want people to believe your age to be.
That's what all the guys like you do before they get caught on dateline NBCs "To Catch a Predator" Isn't it? BadBoy13.
Why else would you be using that handle?
Blah blah blup blubber blah bleep blubb. LOL.
What a pile of incoherent dog shit from a silly little boy, only about 13 years old. Are you now admitting to being a silly little boy only about 13 years old?
And I don't know where you learned those sounds, though it does remind me of the sounds your mom was making as she was doing your patented BBBJCIM.
Thanks for the memory recall.
Bad
Well, it is common chat room etticet to append your age to the end of your handle. At least what you want people to believe your age to be.
That's what all the whackos like you do before they get caught on dateline NBCs "To Catch a Predator" Isn't it? BadBoy13. Where else are you using that handle, PERVERT!
How fucking dumb can one little boy, about 13 years of age, be? Why do you always and always insist on buggering your own hole.Right so I guess Alan23 is really 23 years old? Are you fucking stupid or something? Is WT69 really 69 years old? Oh man, is this the reasoning skills they taught you at that shit hole you call home?
Etticet? Is that also how they taught you phonetics? You really need to get a fefund from those hooked on phonics people. LMAO.
Pervert? If fucking Argentinian Women is perverted then sign me up.
Buggering holes? Are you a 70 year old Englishman? Who the fuck talks like that? You keep diggin yourself deeper. But at least it is amusing. Keep it up, I am having fun with you.
Bad
By the way I am sure you sound like a credible source for scientific data for other forum members. You can at least teach them about etticet?? LMMFAO
Oh man, I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.
Are you now admitting to being a silly little boy only about 13 years old?
And I don't know where you learned those sounds, though it does remind me of the sounds your mom was making as she was doing your patented BBBJCIM.
Thanks for the memory recall.
BadHehehehehehe, Keep em coming. You'll be getting some strange looks at the next AMA meeting.
Strange looks at AMA meetings? Are you serious? Why, do you think they will all ask me to give up her number after I said she does BBBJCIM? I don't think so, most forum members aren't into old toothless hags, but as I said, I only banged her with your feelings in mind.
But yes, I WILL keep them coming.
Bad.
As a matter of fact, I think I will repost it myself.
Turns out you really are a little boy
You, on the other hand are a typical over-the-hill chat room pervert, trolling teenage forums, pretending to be a 13 year old boy So which one is it you delirious faggot?
I don't believe you are in BA to fuck women.You might want to ask Serious BA mongers about that one, I don't think there is a dispute about that one, But considering your parents were cousins, I will definitely, take that into account as to why you are a lonney fuck.
I think you only come to Argentina Private to talk about Global Warming and call Froum Members 13 year old boys. But hey, that's just my personal opinion.
Thought you said family was off limits, or are you finally learning the lesson I was trying to teach you last time. So much for your principles and lines of forum etiquette that are not to be crossed.I am glad you went to Webstersonline at least and figured out it's not spelled etticet, you fucking idiot. And family members ARE off limits, but you felt like continuing your anti social behavior so I decided to join your stupid ass, and considering you aren't actually a REAL forum member and have continued to talk about family, I felt I was in my right.
I don't give a shit what you say. I told you before that someone like you does not have the human capacity for credible viewpoints. You have never had a credible opinion in your entire life. You still do not know the difference between spelling and grammar. I actually said nothing about grammer, my comments were about phonetics, do you know that word? It is what you used to try to spell ETTICET, you fucking hooked on phonics reject, Motherfuckers that say the word ETTICET do not have the human capacity for credible anything. But I will let you change my tire every now and then, just as long as your mom continues with the toothless BBBJCIM.;)
Man, you are one stupid mother fucker! I was going to make a degenerate badboy13 type comment about your mother, knowing how much it would bother you, but I don't want to create an image of myself as a freak, like you have. Is this stupid ***** SERIOUS, he comments about family and then begins his racist tirade about people who either live in trailer parts or reservations or as he likes to call it the " res ", and he is stupid enough to look for sympathy and say he doesn't want to be portrayed as a FREAK,.
Here's some DATELINE NBC news for you *****, TOO LATEE.
Bad
Actually I DON'T chat in chat rooms, I leave that for pedophiles like you. So I would not know about that, though it seems you are quite knowledgable about that, hmm I wonder why? You give away too much about yourself and your online habits.
But if your twisted ass wants to " pretend " you are talking to a " 13 year old " then be my guest, though that does warrant some serious questions?
Bad
A monger is someone who fucks many women, mostly for money. A monger that is an online forum member usually gives opinions and reviews about the women he has fucked that are helpful to ther mongers.
That is my understanding. Now whatever the fuck you are doing here , I have NO idea.
A monger isn't someone calling people 13 year old boys, And they sure don't spend their time talking about global warming on a sex forum, but hey, thats just my opinion.
AND LISTEN TO THIS MORON,
It is one thing to spell phoneitic and say you tyed too fast, BUT SPELLING ETTICET and then saying you just typed too fast is just plain BULLSHIT. Everyone knows you have a serious problem spelling anything other than Global Warming and 13 year old boy.
So get real, and if your only contributions on our sex forum will be gobal warming bullshit, then you should find another place to write about your real hobby.
BAD
a little freak! Hehehehehehehe.
A typical over-the-hill chat room pervert, trolling teenage forums, pretending to be a 13 year old boy, but only until the day of my appointment with dateline NBC.Actually I am learning it all from you, you have said enough about the subject that I can safely say you are a real expert, and this with only mild coexing from me to open you up.
You can talk about caning people on the ass all you want, but it won't help your case.
Buggery? Do you really talk like that? You sound like a bad Oliver Twist remake LMMFAO.
13 years old when what happened? Is that when they started caning your " arse ", you silly pedo-englishman.
Nemesis? I wonder who is your nemesis? Maybe I will get you to open up some more.
Bad
How about GRAMMAR and your version of it GRAMMER! See the difference bugger boy? Let me guess, your keyboard strikes an E but only at the end of the word Grammar. Aaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa. Pleeeeeeeeeese!
You don't know how to spell, your sentence structure is that of a 13 year old boy, and your intelligence is at absolute Zero!
I don't think anyone who calls himself Bad Boy 13, is in Argentina to fuck any women. I think that type of person is a homosexual pedophile soon to be appearing on Rick Hansen's Dateline NBC.There is a big difference from spelling grammer and etticet? People at least can tell what I am writing about, I thought etticet is some drug you take to keep the split personalities in check.
And the only pedophile going to be on DATELINE NBC is you, it seems you know this Rick Hansen pretty well, seems there must allready be questions about your sexual proclivities back home.
I really don't mind Rick Hansen or DATELINE, Though it seems the mere mention of his names scares the shit out of you. You tout it around like some big threat. You silly fuck. The only one scared of him is YOU. And you should, the entire record of your posts on this thread and all your talk about " little 13 year old boys ", should scare a pedo like you.
Bad
Last time, YOU got destroyed,
If you want to pretend that in your own little world you actually won something be my guest, again, if you have to try and convince me you allready lost.
And you can continue to talk about caning little boys,.
One question? Do you always call them foolish when you cane them? Is that how you justify it? It really sounds disturbing. But please continue.
Keep talking about all the 13 year old " foolish " boys you caned, and I will continue to get some BBBJCIM from your " mum ".
How's that?
Regards,
Bad
yeah fucking right, we all know your sorry english ass doesn't have anything better to do than go to an ONLINE ARGENTINA SEX FORUM and talk about Global Warming and LITTLE BOYS 13 years of age, isn't that right?
You won't be finished until your medicine kicks is and you realize you said too much.
BadLike I said, BadBoy13, the handle really says it all. Why did you choose that handle BTW? How did you decide on it?
Was it as good for you as it was for me? LOL Again with the faggot remarks, though you should be asking your " mum ", because there is a good chance it was very good for her, though I must admit stank old toothelss hags aren't my bag, In fact, you can go back to banging her yourself. Just think of all the airfare you will save;)
Bad
Again with the faggot remarks, though you should be asking your " mum ", because there is a good chance it was very good for her, though I must admit stank old toothelss hags aren't my bag, In fact, you can go back to banging her yourself. Just think of all the airfare you will save;)
BadBadBoy13! Why are you evading the question? Why do you call yourself that?
BadBoy13! Why are you evading the question? Why do you call yourself that? Evading what questions? I was never having a conversation with your silly ass, why are you still trying. I was never talking to you, at best I was talking at you. You have said enough about your fetishes in your posts, at least you had the sense to erase SOME them.
Stop trying to conversate with me you silly hoe, didn't you have some OTHER PURSUITS?
What ever happened to these OTHER PURSUITS. Get the fuck on.
Bad
Evading what questions? I was never having a conversation with your silly ass, why are you still trying. I was never talking to you, at best I was talking at you. You have said enough about your fetishes in your posts, at least you had the sense to erase SOME them.
Stop trying to conversate with me you silly hoe, didn't you have some OTHER PURSUITS?
What ever happened to these OTHER PURSUITS. Get the fuck on.
BadWhy are you evading the question? Why are you such a bad boy? LOL Where did the number 13 come from?
BTW, it's converse, not conversate! Hehehehehehehehe You are an endless source of entertainment. I know, I know, the keyboard got the better of you. ROFLMAO.
My wife is wondering why I have been sitting here with a perma grin on my face for the last two hours. "What's so hallarious", she asks. Of course I can't show her. Let's just say it's about someone who has just been exposed projecting strange fettishes with a very revealing handle.
Come on you bad boy you! Why the badboy and why the 13?
it's time for other pursuits yeah fucking right, we all know your sorry english ass doesn't have anything better to do than go to an ONLINE ARGENTINA SEX FORUM and talk about Global Warming and LITTLE BOYS 13 years of age, isn't that right?
You won't be finished until your medicine kicks is and you realize you said too much.
Bad.
PS, of course you can't show her your posts about you caning 13 year old boys, The forum is a history, and yours is here for all to see, don't count the forum members here as idiots, they can all look back to the first post and see who first referensed 13 year old boys.
Why are you evading the question? Why are you such a bad boy? LOL Where did the number 13 come from?
BTW, it's converse, not conversate! Hehehehehehehehe You are an endless source of entertainment. I know, I know, the keyboard got the better of you. ROFLMAO.
My wife is wondering why I have been sitting here with a perma grin on my face for the last two hours. "What's so hallarious", she asks. Of course I can't show her. Let's just say it's about someone who has just been exposed projecting strange fettishes with a very revealing handle.
Come on you bad boy you! Why the badboy and why the 13?Do you mean this guy?
a little freak! Hehehehehehehe.
A typical over-the-hill chat room pervert, trolling teenage forums, pretending to be a 13 year old boy, but only until the day of my appointment with dateline NBC.
Seems you know how these things work pretty well.
Keep sharing, don't try to change the subject, we all want to know more
So, how does a homosexual pedophile who likes bad boys about 13 years old, come to chose a handle like Nemesissy. Why am I evading the question? I don't know, you should ask yourself that question and also ask yourself why you can't stop talking about these boys of yours?
Bad.
What happened to all those " other pursuits "? Guess the wife is only fucking the handy man lately. Maybe you should ask her to dress up like a " 13 year old boy ".
LMMFAO
I don't know, you should ask yourself that question and also ask yourself why you can't stop talking about these boys of yours?
Bad.
What happened to all those " other pursuits "? Guess the wife is only fucking the handy man lately. Maybe you should ask her to dress up like a " 13 year old boy ".
LMMFAOI see that is what your family used to do to you. Maybe even still does. ROFLMAO
Is that what turned you into a chat room troll? You've been a bad boy.
That's right pedoperv, I watch TV, and guys like you on it. I have intimate knowledge of a vast array of television programs, like CNN news, Fox News, etc.
What's relevant though is not my knowledge of television programs, but my understanding of the human psyche that has helped me to identify you.
Badboy13 - the name says it all. Now I know that you come from a disatvantaged family background and have a homosexual disposition for young boys. In fact yo have been going on and on about it all day.RRRRRIGHTTTT,
Sure fag, I am sure you can tell Rick THATS why you keep talking about caning 13 year old boys.
The only homo is the one talking about caning young boys. And then erasing his posts LMMFAO.
And telling everyone you are a homo couch potato isn't really winning you any points, though I am glad you research yourself alot and understand your own psyche.
And I am sorry you grew up in a disadvantaged reservation aka trailerpark, but that is really no ones business.
Bad
I see that is what your family used to do to you. Maybe even still does. ROFLMAO.
Is that what turned you into a chat room troll? You've been a bad boy. Sorry, it is YOUR family that fucked you up bad enough that you can't stop talking about caning 13 year old boys.
And you can ASK any REAL monger on this forum, who is the troll, YOU NEITHER live in BA or post about anything of value on this forum.
The only chat room troll here is you.
Bad.
Oh and BTW, you are welcome for all those fine insults, I am glad you are able to copy my own insults. I know I am good, thanks for pointing it out.
LMMFAO
Well, you live in BA because no woman other than a ***** would even look at an ugly vermin cretin like you in a billion years. Like I have said, I know what you look like.
You can keep fantasizing that the 13 year old boy being caned is someone other than yourself. Fantasize about that while you fantasize about not having to pay for sex, or that you somehow have value at all as a human being.
You have to pay for it, while most regular monger's don't, they choose to. An ugly freak like you has no choice. If I delete my posts it is out of courtesy, so that Jackson does not have to participate in your ass caning.
You haven't had an original thought yet, everything is plagiarized from my previous posts. Another sign of your glaring ineptitude, not that your pathetic English is not already sufficient evidence.
You are so incredibly stupid that you then accuse me of having plagiarized you! You honestly believe that because your mind rot has caused you to forget the original source. Wooooooowwwwwwwwwie.
Disadvantaged, trailer park etc etc. I wonder where all that originated.
That's when you're not too idiotic to put your foot in your mouth with accusations of sexual deviancy when you have a handle like BadBoy13. Now if that doesn't scream homo child molesterer, I don't know what else possibly could.
Or when accusing me of bad spelling and misspelling the most simple words imaginable in the very same sentence multiple times. You don't even learn from your mistakes. You still don't know how to spell grammar, nor do you appear to know what that word means.
GRAMMER, CONVERSATE, LONNEY, etc etc LOL. Let's see what were some of the others. Then you try to blame it on your keyboard. What a hoot.
I know you are talking out of your ass when you projectile vomit your stupidities into this forum, but rest assured that I mean every word of what I say to you.
You don't even remember that it was you, who in desperation, originally raised the perverse sexual innuendo, and without realizing how badly it will backfire on a self described BadBoy13. I mean the name says it ALL. LOL
The funny thing is it looks like you actually put time into that funny little rant of yours. You do not know anything about me, though your ugly old pedophile ass is definitely no one to be talking about looks. You know nothing about my private life either. I don't choose to share the free pussy I do get.
The funny thing is you talk about pedophiles over and over again, yet YOU are the only one talking about caning 13 year old children. If you knew what I looked like, you wouldn't say what you just said. I am no Adonis, though I am far from ugly. Though I guess from your post I am not your type you fagg, Sorry I am not the 13 year old boy you thought I was.
Though it seems you go around asking mongers about my looks? Sounds rather gay to me. Every post of yours gets fucking gayer every minute. Gayer? Is that a word?
I guess Etticet is though right? You fucking wanabee sloppy motherfucker. Keep it up your " thought out " commentary is hilarious. And I can't stop making fun of you at this point. All I do know is sometime very soon, you will get a knock at the door. Next time you come to BA, you can tell me how ugly you think I am because you are gay and know what your talking about, that, plus the fact that I am not really 13 years old. You can comment on all these things as you are looking for your teeth on the sidewalk. I would suggest you bring some serious metal bro. You are going to need it.
Bring on those fucking funny ass rants. You are too outdated to even take seriously. But since you are such the disrespectful fuck I will continue to pummel you.
Bring it on you pedophile freak, I hope your " wife " doesn't find out. Wife? Is that what you call all your " chat " buddies? Are you sure you aren't a fucking congressman? You fit the mold quite well.
Ok, that is enough.
I will await your next " well thought out " attack.
Til then, watch out for DATELINE NBC.
LMMFAO.
Bad
Well, you live in BA because no woman other than a ***** would even look at an ugly vermin cretin like you in a billion years. Like I have said, I know what you look like.
You can keep fantasizing that the 13 year old boy being caned is someone other than yourself. Fantasize about that while you fantasize about not having to pay for sex, or that you somehow have value at all as a human being.
You have to pay for it, while most regular monger's don't, they choose to. An ugly freak like you has no choice. If I delete my posts it is out of courtesy, so that Jackson does not have to participate in your ass caning.
You haven't had an original thought yet, everything is plagiarized from my previous posts. Another sign of your glaring ineptitude, not that your pathetic English is not already sufficient evidence.
You are so incredibly stupid that you then accuse me of having plagiarized you! You honestly believe that because your mind rot has caused you to forget the original source. Wooooooowwwwwwwwwie.
Disadvantaged, trailer park etc etc. I wonder where all that originated.
That's when you're not too idiotic to put your foot in your mouth with accusations of sexual deviancy when you have a handle like BadBoy13. Now if that doesn't scream homo child molesterer, I don't know what else possibly could.
Or when accusing me of bad spelling and misspelling the most simple words imaginable in the very same sentence multiple times. You don't even learn from your mistakes. You still don't know how to spell grammar, nor do you appear to know what that word means.
GRAMMER, CONVERSATE, LONNEY, etc etc LOL. Let's see what were some of the others. Then you try to blame it on your keyboard. What a hoot.
I know you are talking out of your ass when you projectile vomit your stupidities into this forum, but rest assured that I mean every word of what I say to you.
You don't even remember that it was you, who in desperation, originally raised the perverse sexual innuendo, and without realizing how badly it will backfire on a self described BadBoy13. I mean the name says it ALL. LOLSo at what point in time did you actually lose your mind? Was this before or after your " ugly vermin cretin " ass found out your mom was busting some serious BBBJCIM on me?
Did that get you upset? Too badd, hehe.
Or was it when I outed you as a sick fucking internet perv that spends tooo much time talkking about caaning 13 year old boys?
I am sure that one hurt too.
I am sure you called all your " connects " in BA, and as they all seem to be well connected purse carrying faggots you spent the last few days discussing my physical attributes. Oh man, your faggoty ass has no bounds.
And no one is copying your stupid ass, it just seems natural that if you seem to spew so much mindless blather about canning 13 year olds and trailerparks and reservations. It must be because you have alot of knowledge on the subject. It seems for such a happilly " married " man, you spend way too much time fantasizing about canning 13 year old boys.
The funniest thing is you are trying to distance yourself from your own words, you said it not me, I am repeating it for the benefit of those that want to know how sick your silly " buggered arse " really is. Feel safe thousands of miles away. But again, I have no idea what you are doing on Jackson's Argentina Sex Forum? You aren't in Argentina and you don't talk about sex or women.
But hey I am sure you amuse some people so if you want to be the court jester than let it be, don't forget the funny hat *****.
Come on you ugly vermin, I guess you aren't fucking your wife because even SHE won't fuck your ugly ass. That is why YOU have to come to Argentina to get fucked. Though I wonder if you actually fuck women here, since you never write about it. Though it seems you have many high heel wearing, purse carrying faggots telling you anything you want to hear. Though I guess Argentina is filling up with more and more fudge packers. I guess you are just one more.
Come on silly hoe, I am sure you can do better than that.
Thats all your old wasted syphilis ridden mind can think of?
Fucking *****.
Bad
At least you finally spelled disadvantaged right. Seems that hooked on phonics isn't quite as good as you thought right? You need to tell them your disatvantaged ass needs a refund.
You fucking retard.
Keep em coming.
Bad
Now that is an understatement. Now it appears that you have somewhat overestimated how you appear to other forum members.
According to my source, you are one ugly little turd, and you live in BA because prostitution is the only sexual outlet available to you.
I believe I have already thoroughly commented on all your other inadequacies.
So, I see you have decided to plagiarize the TV show thing, like you do everything else. Aren't you glad that you have me to teach you these things, so that even an imbecile like you can appear witty once in a while?
Your idiotic threats reveal the road raging red neck trailer park badboy we both have always know you to be. If we met in person you would immediately burst into tears. Ok, go ahead and copy that now, dumb dumb.
All right, let's have that address of yours. What kind of a rat shack does an online predator like you dwell in these days?
Bad boy 13. The name says it all.
Hehehehehe
And you think you ARE an Adonis? And you think these ***** mongers actually find YOU attractive??? Oh man what a cream puff.
Ummm? Are you fucking serious? Am I supposed to be offended because YOU say a bunch of old ass men find me unattractive? Are you fucking serious? What a fucking joke. Again out of all the forum members I have met, I never pegged any as homos so again, you are wrong.
Again, I am neither ugly nor a turd, and the last reason I moved to Argentina was for Sex, that was just an added bonus. BTW, I am sure unless someone is a 13 year old boy they are ALL ugly in your eyes.
You claim to know how I look yet you continue to call me a poor trailerpark trash whatever.
Anyone who has met me knows otherwise, so again, your csources seem to be extremely mistaken. You know nothing about me.
As for an address? I am still wating for yours? Though you have allready admitted you don't live in BA nor are you currently in the country, so at this point, you are just deflecting my intitial question. Since you now tell us you have no address in BA.
Though again, if you were here the only one bursting into tears would be you. After I soften you up, I will let the boys play with you. Again, BRING some Serious steel *****.
Stop talking at this point, you sound like a scared coward ***** talking from thousands of miles away, trying to hide behind purse carrying bitches and your anonimity.
Any time you want I can easily be found, though I warn you, be prepared for a trip to the hospital *****. What, you think I'm some sort of nice guy? You don't know me. But I would really like to get to know you.
You fucking pedo *****,.
Bad
Rat shack???? You might want to ask somebody *****. The only rat shack is the place you and your cousins aka wives call home.
And I am clowning your DATELINE NBC comments, they were rediculous, fucking throwing around rick hansen on the board as though it would cause a stampede. You fucking retard. I was laughing at you. Though I guess your stupid ass didn't realize it. You're a fucking joke.
Again stop getting pissed because you are stupid. And stop pretending you have an actual wife. Unless you are trying to tell us you sit on the computer for days on end and your wife is ok with that. Or maybe she is too busy fucking the handy man, LMMFAO.
Does she get Boffed in her arse ?? Does she get her hole Buggered???
Oh man, please continue, you ugly gay pedo loser
I see you have now decided to plagiarize the ugly vermin comment, right after criticizing me for it too.
What a confused bad boy you are. Of course, anyone who trolls chat rooms posing as a 13 year old boy while pretending to pay for sex in Argentina should not be presumed to have coherent thought.
Bad, have a look in the mirror man. You are one fucking ugly little turd. Didn't your parents ever tell you that. I don't think Dateline would have you actually; that would be too much for the audience to take. You're in luck.
Now go ahead and respond by either screaming fag fag fag fag fag, like some pimple popping high school dropout, or just compose another incoherent rant with segments of my prior posts.
May I suggest combing my remaining posts with a spell checker? You might get lucky again. I'd say that is your best bet for gathering new material. I won't be bothered to waste my time on it; I already know that you are a stupid piece of shit.
I see you have now decided to plagiarize the ugly vermin comment, right after criticizing me for it too.
What a confused bad boy you are. Of course, anyone who trolls chat rooms posing as a 13 year old boy while pretending to pay for sex in Argentina should not be presumed to have coherent thought.
Bad, have a look in the mirror man. You are one fucking ugly little turd. Didn't your parents ever tell you that. I don't think Dateline would have you actually; that would be too much for the audience to take. You're in luck.
Now go ahead and respond by either screaming fag fag fag fag fag, like some pimple popping high school dropout, or just compose another incoherent rant with segments of my prior posts.
May I suggest combing my remaining posts with a spell checker? You might get lucky again. I'd say that is your best bet for gathering new material. I won't be bothered to waste my time on it; I already know that you are a stupid piece of shit.Again, the only online troll is you, I told you I don't " chat " though you seem to know the whole system pretty well. Tell us more about how you do it.
And which one is it, do I or do I not pay for sex in Argentina? Make up your mind, I am sure you know, you fucking retard.
Nemesissy, have YOU looked in the mirror lately? I mean REALLY? Do you actually find yourself attractive, You look like something my dog shat out. But hey, that's just my own personal opinion. Don't take it personal.
Dateline? That was a stupid comment to begin with on your part. But you can continue, again you must really think you are quite an attractive homo. Do the mongers all tell you how beautiful you look? You are a real joke.
Again, the only ugly little turd here is you, I normally don't go around judging other men, since that in itself is kinda fucking queer, but I have heard a few things about you, seems some older mongers have seen you, they all tell me how old and ugly you are, they same you need to go to the gym, that your body looks flabby and wrinkled plus they also say you seem to have a rare skin disorder and only the old diseased hookers will fuck you, that is because they don't care if you have syphilis because they probably have it too.
NONE of them would pay more than 50 AR for a BBBJ from you, though they have told me you can on occasion thrown in a CIM. I mean if they tell you how beautiful you look. I have told them that it's an old trick I learned from your mom, works every time. Sorry to break it to you, they don't really find you attractive, they just enjoy the bbbj so they will tell you anything. LMMFAO
But don't tell them I said that, it will be our little secret.
Bad.
LMMFAO
The funny thing is this ugly ass pedo actually has nothing left but to say " your ugly, you're ugly, some old ugly mongers told me so " lmfao. And you call me the pimple poping highschool drop out ??? Think again,
This ***** contradicts himself every time, You don't make sense, I think your ugly so what??? Are you going to cry yourself to sleep??? You probably would.
So listen up you little high school drop out, I and many other mongers find you repuslive, none of us would pay anything for your wares, though a few sick fucks will. BTW, they are probably the ones filling your mind with thoughts that they actually find you quite beautiful.
Again, the only online troll is you, I told you I don't " chat " though you seem to know the whole system pretty well. Tell us more about how you do it.
And which one is it, do I or do I not pay for sex in Argentina? Make up your mind, I am sure you know, you fucking retard.
Nemesissy, have YOU looked in the mirror lately? I mean REALLY? Do you actually find yourself attractive, You look like something my dog shat out. But hey, that's just my own personal opinion. Don't take it personal.
Dateline? That was a stupid comment to begin with on your part. But you can continue, again you must really think you are quite an attractive homo. Do the mongers all tell you how beautiful you look? You are a real joke.
Again, the only ugly little turd here is you, I normally don't go around judging other men, since that in itself is kinda fucking queer, but I have heard a few things about you, seems some older mongers have seen you, they all tell me how old and ugly you are, they same you need to go to the gym, that your body looks flabby and wrinkled plus they also say you seem to have a rare skin disorder and only the old diseased hookers will fuck you, that is because they don't care if you have syphilis because they probably have it too.
NONE of them would pay more than 50 AR for a BBBJ from you, though they have told me you can on occasion thrown in a CIM. I mean if they tell you how beautiful you look. I have told them that it's an old trick I learned from your mom, works every time. Sorry to break it to you, they don't really find you attractive, they just enjoy the bbbj so they will tell you anything. LMMFAO.
But don't tell them I said that, it will be our little secret.
Bad.
LMMFAOIncoherent crap. LOL.
Some of the older mongers have met me aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha.
Keep guessing and fantasizing, my ugly little turd.
Now you are talking about getting ass drilled? I wonder does this happen to you often? Does it happen before or after they tell you you look beautiful?
HAHA.
Your " research " indicates what? Are you fucking stupid? Who goes anywhere because they are ugly? I guess you are the only one. Sorry about that. You might want to get a refund for that " research " because it worth fuck all, unless you really believed that, then go ahead and give that last bbbjcim as payment for you " research ".
You might want to think again, many mongers have seen you, your ugly syphilis ridden 13 year old boy fantasizing pedophile ass sticks out in a crowd.
I don't think anyone blamed you for anything, the mongers on this forum can go back and read all your posts about your continued talk of caning 13 year old boys.
Again you sound like a total *****, you're gonna try and sneak up behind me and sucker punch me? What a fucking pussy. Wake up from a coma? Are you fucking serious? You might want to use a sledge hammer if thats the effect you are looking for, You know nothing about me, and that might actually cause you some serious physical harm. Stop hiding like a *****. Be a man and stand up for your words. Because the minute you do, your face will get destroyed, and I just hope you do get knocked out, because then I guarantee you won't wake up in a hospital. We got places for people like you. Fun places.
If you ARE in BA, then you were lying about having a wife, which was obvious to begin with, an ugly anti-social pedophile like you could never have a wife. And if you ARE in town, well come on down *****, give me your address I will be there shortly, or bring your scared ***** ass over here and get your faced smashed. I am glad the mongers have misled you, though I guarantee you, they did you no favors.
Bad
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
You are an embarassement to humanity. I'm sure glad nobody knows that I'm conversing with a freak like you.
What a degenerate. ROFLMAO
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
You are an embarassement to humanity. I'm sure glad nobody knows that I'm conversing with a freak like you.
What a degenerate. ROFLMAO You are done son, you have nothing else to say, all your posts were destroyed, all your comments were turned against you, and the only thing you can do at the end is laugh impotently behind your supposed anonimity. The only embarassment here is you, not to humanity but to anyone associated with you. Though everyone here knows you only type your crap because no one knows who you are.
I wonder what the wife would think if she knew you spend 8 hours a day talkking to Argentina sex mongers and telling us about your fetish for caning 13 year old kids. Oh I forgot, you don't have a wife, You are a contradicting lying little scared *****, whose only threats is a sucker punch from the a wanabee tyson pedophile.
Get off the nuts, you won't get the last word here, and the longer you stay on, the more you expose more of yourself, so, no, you aren't hurting anyone but yourself.
Bad
Rock Harders
04-16-07, 08:42
Jackson-
Please delete this thread. Nemesis is obviously a total degenerate, contributes nothing worthwhile, and should be banned outright. Badboy is a fake-ass toughguy on the internet but in his defense, at least he always posts reports about restaurants and chica experiences.
Suerte,
Dirk Diggler
I have speculated that these two guys could be one and the same. There are amazing similarities between their posting styles and commentary. I'd like Jackson to say this isn't so, if indeed it is.
WorldTravel69
04-16-07, 11:23
I thought we were through with this subject.
WE CAN NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT!
The Governments have already said Fuck You, there is not any money in doing anything about it.
Closed this Thread and any other relating to it!
There is nothing about sex in this Thread, so it is not necessary.
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