Tungurahua in Buenos Aires: April 2007

[Tungurahua]

In month 16 of my South American tour -- 4 in Peru, 6 in Ecuador, 3 in Bolivia, 3 in Chile, a week in southern Argentina (to date).

Hiked the Torres del Paine circuit a few days ago: 138.8 km in 37.5 hours over 5.5 days. I am now in Ushuaia. From here I will turn northward and expect to be in Buenos Aires sometime mid-April (as a best guess).

As everyone on the road, the net, the ISG board, seems to rave about BA who knows how long I will stay. I did an unexpected five months in Quito simply because of the exquisite pussy. If BA is anything like Quito for price and quality I am game -- at least for a couple of weeks.

I am not really sure what to expect by way of response, if any, but I thought I would put up a message just for the fun of it.

To provide some context my ISG-resume is located on the Quito board in the Ecuador forum. These four links sum up my contributions:

The 5-month Quito adventure summary: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=508771&postcount=14

The 3rd Capital Investment Report: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=508443&postcount=569

The 45-chica photo album: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=508800&postcount=138

The Quito Fuckclub List: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=563055&postcount=776

[Daddy Rulz]

From looking at your photos I think your going to want to go back to Quito. La conchita aka es mas caro de alla, why son hermossas alla.

[Flexible Horn]

From looking at your photos I think your going to want to go back to Quito. La conchita aka es mas caro de alla, why son hermossas alla.ENGLISH only on this board please, if you need lesson's I'm sure I can help you its probably not to late in life to learn the correct form of English Mr Rulz's.

FH

[Hunt99]

ENGLISH only on this board please, if you need lesson's I'm sure I can help you its probably not to late in life to learn the correct form of English Mr Rulz's.

FHEven a linguistically-challenged Limey like you ought to be able to translate that bit, Flex. I'll translate Mr. Rulz's comments:


La conchita aka es mas caro de alla, why son hermossas alla."She has sucked more cock than Princess Diana, and she's cheaper, too."

[Daddy Rulz]

Even a linguistically-challenged Limey like you ought to be able to translate that bit, Flex. I'll translate Mr. Rulz's comments:

"She has sucked more cock than Princess Diana, and she's cheaper, too."Translated it say.

"No English Spurs fans should go there because there are no ugly fat girls to fuck. All of them should stay in BsAs and continue to pull one fat cow after another out of bars that they wouldn't let pay them to fuck 8000 miles away in England where they live and didn't have to take a 15 hour plane ride to get to a place that has a suprising number of attractive women that they could fuck for reasonable prices."

It never fails to amaze me how much you can say with just a few words in Spanish.

Side note to the blue ink guy, You should change Flexible Horns name to "I only fuck really fat girls that want too much money and provide lousy service."

[Flexible Horn]

Side note to the blue ink guy, You should change Flexible Horns name to "I only fuck really fat girls that want too much money and provide lousy service."Mr Rulz; If one was to check the requirements of obtaining a name to correspond with other participant's of the board, you would know that names can only be between the length of 5-15 characters, inclusive.

[Daddy Rulz]

Mr Rulz; If one was to check the requirements of obtaining a name to correspond with other participant's of the board, you would know that names can only be between the length of 5-15 characters, inclusive.Jackson change his name to.

"Iofrfgtwtmmapls"

Which would be the first letters of "I only fuck really fat girls that want too much money and provide lousy service." and is exactly 15 letters long, it will do right nicely I think. In addition to being clever as hell it also happens to be the truth.

[WorldTravel69]

Are you sure? Have you been following him?

You are a bad boy to say such things.


Jackson change his name to.

"Iofrfgtwtmmapls"

Which would be the first letters of "I only fuck really fat girls that want too much money and provide lousy service." and is exactly 15 letters long, it will do right nicely I think. In addition to being clever as hell it also happens to be the truth.

[Tungurahua]

From looking at your photos I think your going to want to go back to Quito. La conchita aka es mas caro de alla, why son hermossas alla.From general board research I get that feeling too. Quality appears high in BA -- but so are prices (by comparison to a place like Quito). It will not stop me from looking, however.

Ascunsion, Paraguay looks more to my budget (with quality) -- and I will get there in due time (on my way back to the jungle in Brazil).

I have not had a slush puppy for 16 months. Somebody tell me I can buy slush puppies in BA, please.

[ICantFukEnough]

You can find cheap girls. Get the Clarin, Section Opprtuniades, Servicio para Hombre y Mujeres. You will find offers for 10$ and I have taken them. Some of them are not that bad. How adventurous are you? I like girls that charge little for a bit of money you can get great milleage .

[Tungurahua]

Thanks ICantFukEnough. As for how adventurous I am you can scope out my first post here with the links. I can't state it any better.;-)

I arrived in BA last week and am setting up shop, walking the streets, getting a feel for the city. Visiting museums, zoo, cemetary and other general tourist sites. Eating tons.

Staying in a hostel for $8 a night one block off Av 9 de Julio. Supermarket, cheap eateries, movies, subway lines all within a couple blocks.

Probably will start peeking in on chicas in a couple days. I have to read through the board first.

I can't believe there are no slurpees here. What a shame.

[Hunt99]

I can't believe there are no slurpees here. What a shame.Oh, there are slurpees in Buenos Aires. But maybe not the kind they sell at 7-11. :D

Looking forward to your posts.

[Tungurahua]

To clarify: this report was posted by WorldTravel69 April 6-2007; only some extra misc notation is mine. It will be the foundation I work from going forward. Posted here on my thread for future reference, accessible anywhere, easy to edit, in case I lose my paper copy.


Amenabar 2313, piso 1, apt 2, at Olazabal, (in Belgrano) 100p 30 mins. 150p hour. www.legalmentebellas.com.ar


Arenales 1242 6th floor, F, at Libertad. 100p 30mins., 150p hour, plus cab fare for take out. Tel: 5811-0465, 5811-0287. Open Monday to Saturday 11am to 2am.


Bartolome Mitre 1831, at Callao. Sportsman says 50p hour. Tel: ______. Open____. WT69 says 40p 30 mins, 60p hour. 4 chicas. Open 24 hours monday to Saturday.


Beruti 2379, (Divino Private,) at Larrea, Barrio Norte, 2 blocks north of Santa Fe. 160p-440p hour, includes a drink. 250p hour for BBBJ. Tel: 4822-7666. Mon.-Sat. 10am till 10pm. http://www.divinoprivate.com.ar/default.htm


Boyaca 33, Apt 10 A, near Rivadavia, 50p 30mins, 60p hour. 4632 9171. Open 24/7. Two 40 yr old chicas.


Cabildo 1182, (in Colegiales). 20p 15 min, 30p 30 min., 50p hour. Open 24/7.

Cordoba 1364, piso 1,A, at Uruguay. _____ 30mins., 120p 1 hour. Tel: 4372-6606. Open____. April 18-07, WT69 rang, no answer, thinks closed. Previous post before this was July 2005.

Cordoba 2646, piso 6, A, at _____. _____ 30mins., ___ 1 hour. Tel: 4964 0078. Open____ (not included in WT69's PM update April 21).


Corrientes 1628, Apt. 3, at Montevideo (VIP Paraiso). 30p 15 min., 50p 30 min., 100p hour. Tel: 4372 4767. Open 24/7.

Corrientes 1642, 1 piso, apt 23, near Montevideo. 20p 30 min., 30p hour. April 16-07 WT69 says closed.


Corrientes 1888, piso 1, A, at Riobamba. 30p and 40p hour. Shift Change 8 am, 8 pm. 4372 8199, 4372 8147. Open 24/7. Boom says tried charging 10 peso viewing fee and to avoid. Recommended by Tlibre.


Corrientes 1965, piso 13 B, at Ayacucho. 40p 30 min., 60p 1 hour, includes BBBJ and anal. Tel: 4952-8234. Shift Change Hours_______. Open Monday to Saturday. 24/6.


Corrientes 2918, at Boulogne Sur Mar, (in Once). $40p hour. Tel: ___ Open____


Esmeralda 517, piso 1b, at Lavalle. 4328-5707. Open 10am – 9pm. 150p hour. New listing by Seismo Apr19. Sinistra gives thumbs up. Closed Sunday.


Esmeralda 625, piso 8, J. 80p 30 mins, 100p hour. open 24/7. 3 chicas, shift change at noon. New as of April 15-07.


Esmeralda 973, piso 1 C, at M.T. Alvear. 100p 30 mins., 120p hour. Open 24/7. Mixed reports.


Esmerlda 973, piso 2 C, at M.T. Alvear. 60p 30 mins., 120p hour. Tel: _____. Open 24/7.


Esmerlda 973 3A, 60p 30 mins., 120p hour. Tel: _____. Open 24/7.
New listing as of April 7-07. Good reviews.


Esmeralda 973, piso 6 C, at M.T. Alvear. 60p 30 mins., 120p hour. Tel: ___-. Open 24/7. New Mar07.

Esmeralda 975, piso 9 E, at M.T. Alvear. 80-100p 30 min. Tel: ____ Open____ (not included in WT69's PM update April 21).


Florida 716, piso 4 E, at Viamonte. 100p 30 mins., 150p, 200p hour, with anal. Tel: 4328 4480. Open 9am to 8pm. Closed Sunday.


Franklin D. Roosevelt 2561, Piso 1, apt 5, near Cabildo (in Belgrano), 100p hour. Tel: _____ Open____

Fray Cayetano 120, 80p hour conventional, 90p completo. Alan23 says avoid (Mar07). Service bad, had to ask for change twice. (not included in WT69's PM update April 21).


Gallo 1527, Piso 1, at Charcas, (Palermo). 130p 30mins, 180 hour. Tel:______ Open____. New Mar-07.


Guemes 3221, piso 2 A, near Av. Cnel Diaz, and Billinghurst, (in Recoleta). 100p 30 mins. 120p hour Tel: 4823-3150. Open 10am to 10pm. Days Open____. I usually use the subte "D" line. Get off at either at Est. Aguero or Bulnes on Santa Fe, then only a two to three block walk (Sportsman). Buses 39 and 152 go right there. Famous for Salome (Lorena). www.bonitas2004.com.ar. Good reviews of the place. No problems.


Laprida 1898, piso 11 apt C, at Juncal, (in Recoleta), 40p 30 min., 60p hour. Tel: 4804-9432. Open 24/7.


Larrea 882, at Paraguay (in Recoleta). 40p 30 mins., 60p hour. (totally covered) Tel: 4963-8956. Shift Change 12 and 8:30pm. Open 24/7.


Larrea 1072, (Cielo Private,) at Santa Fe (Barrio Norte). 200-500p hour, includes a drink. Tel: 54-11-4824-8822. Mon.-Sat. 10am-12 Midnight. http://www.cieloprivate.com.ar/staff.htm


Las Heras 3766, 2nd floor, apt. A, at Raul Scalabrini Ortiz, (near the botanical garden in Palermo). 150p hour, 200p hour plus 10p cab fare to take out. Tel: 4807-5443. Open_____ Web___


Lavalle 2050, near Ayacucho. 40p hour, 50p for complete. Condoms 1 peso each. Tel: 4951 1852. Open 24/7.


Libertad 443, piso 1, D, at Corrientes. 30p 30 mins, 50p hour. 4383 3636. Open 24/7. New Mar-07.

Libertad 370, piso 2, B, at Corrientes. 100p hour. April 18-07, WT69 rang, no answer, suspects closed.


Maipu 359, 5th floor, apt 74, elevator 4, at Corrientes. 50p 30 mins., 80p hour. May try charging 100. 4322 1052. Open 9am-9pm. Closed Sunday. Call on Saturday to open the gate (no buzzers to the apts). Forget photos. "Are you going to put the photos on the site that the Norteamericanos have?" Place smelly. Daisy, Camilla, Romina, Larisa, Mariela are popular, older girls here. BigBob7 lots of reports.


Maipu 429, 5 piso, apt. 5 (Templo Marion), at Corrientes. 100p 30 min., 150p hour. Tel: 4322 1895. www.templomarion.com Open 9am to 9pm. Closed Sunday.


Mendoza 2480, (La Casita VIP Masaje Relax) at Cabildo, (in Belgrano). 80p 30 min., 120p hour. 4784-3494 / 4786-6535. http://www.lacasitavip.com.ar/home.htm


Monroe 2569, piso 5 B, near Cabildo, (in Belgrano). 130p hour. Tel: 4784-8988. http://www.gemi2.com/index.php?id=escorts&ct=5&pb=7644 Open Monday to Friday. 10am till 10pm.


Montevideo 55, (in Congreso) near Bartolome Mitre. 6-7 chicas mostly servicing locals. 40p hour. Tel: 4382 0358. Open 24hrs. Mediboy says utterly disgusting (Oct06)


Montevideo 271 (in Congreso) at Sarmiento. At Sarmiento. Walk up to the top floor. 40p 30 mins. 70p hour. 4 chicas. 4382 0358. Open 24/7.


* Montevideo 497, piso 3 (only one door), at Lavalle (El Pisito de Montevideo). 50p 30 min., 80p hour. Shift Change 8 am, and 8 pm. Tel: 4372 2938, 4373 0561. Open 24/7. 8 to 10 girls. Subaculture visited and liked Dec06 (paid 40p 30 mins, 80p hour).


Montevideo 581, piso 1, apt H, at Tucuman. 30p 30 min., 60p hour. Tel: 4374 7931. Open 24/7. Andres says the place smells bad.

M T de Alvear 624, piso 5 Apt 44, at Calle Florida. All board reviews bad. Avoid. 40p 30 mins. 50p hour. Alan23 says it is “run by an oriental girl by the name of Hiko. It's sole purpose is to provide bad service and rip clients off.” (not included in WT69's PM update April 21).


MT Alvear 976, piso 9B, at Ayacucho. 2 chicas. 30p 15 mins. 60p hour. Closes 7pm. 4328-8530. Open 9 am to 7pm. New listing by WT69 April 18.


Marcelo T. Alvear 1270, piso 5 B, at Talcahuano. 100p 30 min., 120p hour. Tel: _____ Open____

Parana 258, piso 1, A, near Sarmiento. ___p 30mins., ___p 1 hour Tel: 4373-2464, 4382-3094. Open____. April 16-07 WT69 visited, chica said no chicas here.


Paraná 894, piso 1, apt. B, at Paraguay. 150p hour, 200p plus 20p cab fare to come to your apartment. Tel: _____ Open____


Peron 1509, piso 4 E, at Parana. 100p 30 mins., 150p hour, 200p Complete. 4371 7591. Open 24/6. Closed Sunday. Review on board seems like you have to select/call girl beforehand on a website to meet here.


Riobamba 392, piso 1, at Corrientes. 40p 30 min, 70p hour. BBBJ 20p extra. Tel: 4951-7087, 4952-3647. Open 24/7.


Riobamba 460, piso 5A. 40p 40 mins, 50p hour - all inclusive, no need to pay for extras. 9:00am-9:00pm, Mon-Sat. 3 girls. Very clean. (Apr07 review).


Rivadavia 916, Piso 1, at Suipacha. 50p 30 mins. 80p hour. 7 chicas. All pretty nice looking. Shift change 9am and 9pm. Open 24/7. 4342 9743, 4342 5636. WT69 visited Apr17-07. Kicked Natalla out, fucked Carmilla.

Rivadavia 1929-1931, 1st piso, apt. 7, at Riobamba (Congreso). ____p 30 mins, ____p 1 hour. Open____ (not included in WT69's PM update April 21).


Rodriquez Pena 454, piso 8 A, at Corrientes, 30p 30 mins. 40p hour. Take out 80p 30 mins, 100p hour. But who would want to? 2 chicas. Shift Change 10am and 10pm Tel: 4371 1202, 4372 8398. Open 24/7. WT69 visited April 17-07.


Rodriquez Pena 468, piso 7, 44, at Corrientes, 15p 30 min, 25p hour. Tel: 4373 2532. Open 24/7. New as of Apr18-07.


Santa Fe 1707, Apt 3, at Rodriquez Pena, near Callao, 120p hour. 4816 1490, 15 4028 7804. Open 10am to 3am. 2004 Jackson had a bad experience here, money not refunded. Mar15-07 Alan23 writes it is a dying place: “Only 5 posts in the last 4 months; of which 3 were relative, with 1 positive, 1 negative, and one neutral. This is from a place that had recieved about 350 posts in 3 years (roughly 10 posts per month)”


Santa Fe 2036, 2B. Take first elevator on right. 5 girls. Open Sundays. Mamasan likes calls beforehand, not just showing up. “It is like arranging for sex with your grandma.” Speaks English. Full service 200p. conventional 150p hour. www.bonnefemme.com.ar Tana blew Trader’s mind Feb07. (not included in WT69's PM update April 21).


Santa Fe 3373, 5 C, near Bulnes and Salgüero (in Palermo). 40p 30 min, 70p hour. Tel. 4824-2490. Open 24/7. Place is skanky (said multiple times).

Sarmiento 1652, piso 1, E at Montevideo. 120p hour. April 18-07, WT69, chica said no more chicas.


Suipacha 370, piso 1 B, at Corrientes. 100p 30 mins, 150 hour. 4328 6421. Capt Dave had trouble here, Roxanna refunded money for him (Nov06).

Suipacha 670, piso 2, A, at Cordoba. 70p 30 min., 100p hour. Tel: _____ Open 24/7. New Mar-07.


Suipacha 771, piso 2, N, at Cordoba. 40p 30 min., 70p hour. 4326 9845. Open 9am-9pm. New Mar-07.


Suipacha 834 1-A (DreamOn), 4 girls, 60 for one hour, extras negotiated with the girl you pick. New as of April 8-07. Two bad reviews (Elusive & Fretta). (not included in WT69's PM update April 21).


Suipacha 858, piso 4, A, at Paraguay. 50p 30 min, 80p hour. 115 857 5888. Open 9am till 9pm.


Suipacha 885, piso 10 A, at Paraguay. 30p 30 min, 60p hour. 4313 3677. Open 24/6. Closed Sunday. WT69 went Apr 16-07 and the lady said it is cheaper if he calls first. ??!!


Suipacha 921, piso 6, apt. C, at Paraguay (Near Ness). 100p. Tel: 4328-9425. www.jardingold.com.ar. Open 10am - 3am. Chica Seeker says 150p hour (Mar-07).

Suipacha 1031, piso 2, apt. 27, 30p 30mins., 70p hour. 4313 3892, 4313 3648. www.solitasvip.com.ar Open 24/7. April 19-07, WT69 rang 3 times, guy said something about police. Suspect closed.


Talcahuano 308, Piso 1, Near Sarmiento. 70p hour. 4 chicas, Shift Change 9am and 9pm. 4372 0558, 4373 5715. Open 24/7. WT69 visited April 16-07.


Teodoro Garcia 2520, ___ (in Colegiales) 20p 15 min, 30p 30 min. 50p hour. Tel: 4553-8817. Open 24/7.


Tucumán 320, piso 2, C. 1st Building, at 25 de Mayo. 100p 30 mins. 150p hour Tel: 4315-0333. Open 24/7.

Tucuman 563, ___ between San Martin and Florida. 80p 30 min. Tel: ______ Open____ (not included in WT69's PM update April 21).


Tucuman 741, PB, D. At Maipu. 80-100 30 mins. 100-180 hour. 4393 4776, 4393 4777. Open 24/7. WT69 Saw 4 nice chicas Mar 22-07. Elusive had a bad time here, will not return. Sol here April 9-07. I noticed they make new 21 year olds every year, so there will always be new talent (Elusive)


Tucuman 875, piso 2, D, at Suipacha. 40p 30 mins. 60p hour. 4393 4218. Open 9am to 7pm. Open Sundays. 2 chicas. New Mar-07.


Tucuman 2058, 4373 2602, 4373 3053.


Uriburu 578, Piso 7, Apt 35, at Tucuman. 30p 30 min. Tel: _____ Open____


Uruguay 343, 1 floor, at Corrientes. 60p 30 mins. 80p hour. Tel: 4373-3155. Open 24/7.

Uruguay 782, Apt 1, at Cordoba. 60p hour. April 18-07, WT69 rang, no answer, suspects closed.

Viamonte 744 At Esmeralda. 50p 30 mins. 100p hour. Open 24/7. Is dead end (WT69 as of April 6-07)


Viamonte 838, Apt 1, at Esmeralda. 60p 30 mins. 100p hour. Shift Change 10am and 9pm. 4393-8555, 4393-8556. Open 24/7.


Viamonte 1646, (Consultora Viamonte) Piso 2, Apt. 74, 3rd Elevator (at back, not front) at Montevideo. 50p 30 mins. 80p hour. Includes a drink. Tel: 4373-1193. Open Monday to Friday 9am - 9pm, Saturday till 6pm, closed on Sunday. Also says Cross steets are Callao and Rodriquez Pena. Stacy, Jessica (good fuck but ugly face) Marrilla, Clariza and Daisy (beautiful smile) say hi. Cum on by. They also want you to teach them English. Girls from Maipu 359 have moved here (daisy, jessica, etc.)


Viamonte 1655, piso 1 P, go up the stairs. 30p 30 mins, 40p hour, 2 chicas, 4816 4540, 4816 3049, 4373 5905. Open 24/7. New as of April 15-07.




The following apartments on Jackson’s list are not on WorldTravel69’s April 6-2007 list so I take it they are closed:

Castex 3365
AJ Carranza 1463
Diagonal Norte 885 3g
Olazabal 2313 1-depto2
Suipacha 921 15a
Viamonte 848 7f
Vidt 1920 (center house)
Junin 696 2C probably closed (& SanteFe says stay away).

[Tungurahua]

Introduction

I have been reading the Argentine Private board for two full days now. Initially printed off Jackson's Club & Boliches list, then the Private Apartments list, and started adding my own notes from each individual club and apartment board. Mostly adding prices quoted by members on previous visits: cover (if any), drinks (me, chicas), fuck quotes, fuck exit-fines, rooms on premise (if any), nearby hotels (if any), and general observations (such as a lot of positive/negative posts).

My background in mongering comes from Quito (ISG Posts), La Paz (ISG posts) and China (99-2000). These experiences provide my perspective and give insight to my B.A. comments.

Additional background: by nature I am a value-shopper when it comes to pussy, scouting for the highest quality for the lowest possible dollar amount. Mongering in B.A. is not a necessity, only a travel bonus as I make my way around the South American continent for 2 to 2.5 years.

I plan to hang in B.A. for a month simply because it is a nice city to break up the ‘monotony’ of continuous travel, to catch my breath before the next push. If I can ‘get some’ while here, great. If not, no problem.

I type this post not so much for anyone else’s benefit but to attain perspective on the B.A. scene. To chop it up into easily digestible pieces to help me determine a course of action. To get an overview of the scene and what to expect. It is not the “final word” -- quite the opposite, it is an introduction to what is going to be evolving thought over time. The numbers aren’t going to be perfect (duplicate club names, etc.) but at this point of the game close enough.

If a reader finds a mistake please feel free to correct me. Or just feel free to comment should you so desire.

So what do I like? Eighteen & nineteen: sweet dreams are made of these. However I will go up to 25, even 30 in very rare cases. Slender is key. Pretty face is key. Full breasts are nice but not essential. A small tight ass is everything. Long slender fingers (very feminine) and toes are appreciated. Long hair is preferred but not essential.

As for the act, conventional is fine by me (with cbj or bbbj, either goes). Photos are usually the only ‘extra’ I like to attain. As a more developed market I guess I will see if B.A. is closed to this option more so than Quito. Anal: while I love watching the sanitized porn version, in real life I am not a big fan of seeing my dick caked in shit.

Escort websites aren’t my thing as I like to drink beers during a jungle hunt. I don’t care much for streetwalkers as I perceive increased risk here, health and/or security wise, plus I like the presence of a (hopefully objective) third-party (club owner, mamasan) in case a dispute arises.

My thoughts on the boliches and apartments …


B.A. Clubs & Boliches

I count 97 club/boliche options on Jackson’s list.

Of the 97 listed, 23 clubs have a green checkmark by them.

Of the 97 listed, 30 clubs have a red X by them. 5 of these have a board with commentary usually giving more in-depth reasons why the X, minus the odd visitor(s) who likes the place.

Of the 44 unmarked clubs (no red X or green checkmark): 7 of the clubs have a board to provide some member commentary, 36 have no boards, 1 is closed (Play Women). Of the 36 with no boards there is little information other than what Jackson comments, usually an address, phone number, website addy, sometimes only two cross streets.

I find this of interest as I expected B.A. to be a highly defined market which, at first glance, overwhelmed me with its abundance of club names and boards. But, like my initial observations in Quito, the usual one to two week vacationers repeatedly visit the same clubs.

With only a handful of exceptions all the boliches routinely start at 150 pesos for a fuck (subject to one's sobriety and negotiating skills) -- going up to 300 pesos. Black’s being the only one that can apparently exceed 300 pesos. Then you add on extra night costs like the bar exit-fine, cover charge, subsequent drinks, pre-screening chica drink(s), taxis, transitorio (i.e., a fuck hotel) charge.

Dickhead broke down the math one time in Catto’s: 145 chica, 12 taxi, 15 transitorio, 50 drinks (15 for you, 35 for her), 5 tip waiter = 227 pesos. Time appears to be 1 to 1.5 to 2 hours depending on your negotiation. Thus, including overhead costs your 145 pesos chica ($48.33US) is 227 pesos ($75.66US), a markup of 56%.

Of the boliches, places without a cover appeal to me. Like Catto’s which is no cover, a beer is 15 pesos, roughly what I would pay back home in a nightclub. Cutty Sark appeals, no cover 20 pesos for a drink. Hook same deal, no cover, 20 pesos for a drink.

30 pesos ($10US) is getting pretty pricy for a beer. I’ll pay to drink a $10 beer on the 87th floor of the Jin Mao skyscraper in Shanghai but at street level in B.A.? Even with fine looking pussy about I say: ugh!

It appears I am not alone with this opinion. Some noteworthy bits from board members include Exon123 who wrote paying 40 pesos for a chica drink is more money than the most expensive steak in town. DaddyRulz says of La Lopez drink prices that it reaffirms his decision not to hunt in La Recoleta until Exon kicks the bucket and he inherits the big bucks (even with the cool La Lopez urinals). Dirk Diggler: avoid any Recoleta village vicinity club, except maybe New Port occasionally (independent chicas) and Madahos (top quality, legitimately run).

Places like Catto’s, Cutty Sark, Hook at least give me the option to look around the club instead of immediately handing over dollars at the door. I never paid to enter the high end clubs in Quito and I doubt I will start here. 50 pesos ($16.66US) to get in the door at Black’s?! Ouch. In South America shouldn't I be fucking for 50 pesos?! -- not getting a door ticket.

Skirting the limit of 30 pesos for entrance, other clubs that I find potentially interesting for a look at minimum are: Periplo (no cover, 25 peso drink), Oro (no cover, 10 pesos per drink, 90 pesos to fuck), Rio Cabana (drink 20 pesos), Salome (drink 10 pesos), Doly’s (15 peso entry 1 drink, 80 pesos to fuck 30 mins; might be still closed), Envidia (15 pesos entry 1 drink, 60 pesos to fuck 30 mins), Lola (15 pesos entry 1 drink, 60 pesos to fuck 30 mins), Espirtus Pub (15 pesos large 1 litre beer), Nuevo Estilo (25 pesos entry 1 drink, 10 pesos subsequent drinks).

The only exception I might make for paying 30 pesos is Cocodrilo, an after-hours option. But this is one of the boards I have yet to read in full -- as well as Black, Madaho, New Port, and Salome. I will get around to reading them soon enough, during a slow day/night.


B.A. Apartments

I see that WorldTravel69 has been making apartment rounds the last couple days, updating information, so I will stay tuned to this.

Having read the apartment boards I like the pricing here, more agreeable to my senses. Reminiscent of Dickhead’s boliche math DaddyRulz recently typed on the Café Orleans board: “200 pesos, plus 50 for the transitorio next door, plus 6 or 7 for your drink. 250-260 for a nooner. Or one can go to a privado for 40-150 pesos total.”

This is without a doubt where I will be doing the bulk of my shopping while in B.A..


Closing

The boards have answered all my inquiries except one: how does one go about meeting the King (Jackson) and his court? I see local mongerers arrange a meet/social every so often, meals at Excedra, etc. I am not much of a card player, however, as my grandparents tortured me with playing cards in my youth. Any casual meals scheduled for the upcoming week?

[Exon123]

Closing.

The boards have answered all my inquiries except one: how does one go about meeting the King (Jackson) and his court? I see local mongerers arrange a meet / social every so often, meals at Excedra, etc. I am not much of a card player, however, as my grandparents killed me with playing cards in my youth. Any casual meals scheduled for the upcoming week?

Its real easy to meet Jackson, You just PM him and offer to buy him an expensive dinner at some swanky restaurant in Porta Madaro or the like and he'll come runing with bells on. I will too for that matter, but no bells.

Exon

[Punter 127]

Just remember this. Jackson is not likely to give it up at the end of the night. But Exon might considering his recent park trips. It's just a matter of what you're looking for.

[Piper1]

Introduction

. My background in mongering comes from Quito (ISG Posts) La Paz (ISG posts) and China (99-2000) These experiences provide my perspective and give insight to my be. A. Comments.

Additional background: by nature I am a value-shopper when it comes to pussy, scouting for the highest quality for the lowest possible dollar amount. Guys,

If Tung is going to play in and around BA for a while, be prepared for same late nights of reading wild adventures illustrated by amazing photos. I followed his many Quito escapades on internationalsexguide - simply awesome. He's one of the highest quality contibutors on ISG. I'll be travelling from Dubai to Costa Rica in a few weeks, but Tung's tales have inspired me to take some extra time off to explore further. Check out his ISG posts - you wont regret it.

[Tungurahua]

LOL. Thanks for the glowing commentary but before your get expectations too high there are some things I need to note. Again, this is more for myself than it is for anyone else. But it provides an understanding for my actions.

First. Quito and I met violently in need of women after 2.5 years of abstinence and nothing but work, work, work. Hence the hyper-abundance of activity upon finding so many uncharted 700 penny fuckclubs: Quito was a rarity where many factors, values, thoughts and emotions mixed to explosive results. I myself am still amazed at what took place there, hence posts like these seeking to define things. To define what constitutes 'value' to me and why.

After 16 months of touring the continent I know I will not be able to tap the same kind of 'rage' here in BA, in what is now gentler, more relaxed -- more thoughtful -- times.

Second. There are 59 apartments on WT69's list dated April22-07. Breaking them down into price segments the numbers, based on 30 minute sessions, look like this:

110 pesos or more ($36.67+): 8 apartments
100 pesos ($33.33): 13 apartments
80 pesos ($26.67): 2 apartments
70 pesos ($23.33): 2 apartments
60 pesos ($20.00): 2 apartments
50 pesos ($16.67): 8 apartments
40 pesos ($13.33): 13 apartments
30 pesos ($10.00): 9 apartments
15 pesos ($5.00): 1 apartment
1 unknown

Total: 59 apartments

Here in BA I admit to liking the prices of the apartments over the clubs. But to clarify an important note: I prefer the environment of the clubs over the apartments.

Quito did not have many apartment style chongos. Only two on Fernando Meneses I can think of. The other 70-plus options had more of a nightclub atmosphere -- i.e., music, noise, cheap beers, porn, stripshows -- and being able to fuck chicas for 'penny-sessions' whenever I felt ready. You could freely mix with the chicas, screening them for potential action (primary: "how old are you? 18? YES!"), as they were free to move around in the club. If one wants to buy the girls drinks that too is a cheap option -- for there is no two-tier pricing system.

Apartment-style Masajes Medillin in Quito, where the girls are brought out one at a time as their names are spoken, is a tame setup by comparison. From the sounds of it all the apartments in BA and, going forward, Asuncion, are of this nature.

Again, for perspective, in almost six years of travel I have only found one Quito. While it is not many a mongerer's definition of ideal (far from it), the city struck a chord in me for its very cheap fixed pricing for beautiful girls (Ecuador/Columbia) in nightclub-type environments.

Fourth. My digital camera is in for repair. Probably because of high humidity levels during my travels my flash burned out only three days into BA. Yesterday, after I posted two entries, Olympus repair tells me over the phone it is going to take a friggin month to repair the flash. No spare-flashes in BA they tell me -- or all of Argentina or South America apparently. They have to order from New York. What -- has no one heard of Fedex?! I am going into their office on Monday to raise hell. ... Unless someone knows an alternative competent repair shop in town.

Till then my beloved photo opportunities of chicas are put on hold, as I only have an older Canon film APS to play tourist with until the Olympus digital is repaired. ;-)

[Piper1]

Tung - don't disappoint us! I use inexpensive digital cameras for the hobby-shots (about $70, and getting cheaper by the day, but excellent for posting pics on the net).

Your report-writing is excellent, albeit 'searching for something'. I hope you find what you're looking for by the end of your journey.

And I hope you find that damned slurpy. ;)

[Tungurahua]

Thursday

Identifying the forty cheapest apartments (20 to 80 pesos, 30 mins) on Thursday I started doing the rounds. Unfortunately on Friday, during a blowout night, I lost my notes and maps. Rats! So, instead of being able to make detailed notes about each apartment, I will do a general summary from memory.

I mapped these forty cheapest apartments and was surprised to find them so intensely clustered in the center of BA, with only a handful more strung out along Avenida Santa Fe.

Started in 625 Esmeralda, 8-J. The place was tiny, darkly lit, stove burner lit for heat, two chicas present, both passable. I wondered to myself if there was room enough for me to lay stretched out and sex, or if customers have to stand up while fucking. Compare this to the nice setup of DreamOn (Suipacha 834 1-A) and the apts can vary quite a bit for environment.

I hit about 15 apartments on Thursday, three of them had no answer at the buzzer, some 35 chicas total. Of these chicas only one stood out as a potential target. A tall, slender, leggy creature -- which apartment? Fuck if I remember now.

I realized at the end of day one choice women are going to be few and far between in these lower-priced options. That I may have to upgrade in terms of price and limit myself in number of buys.

At midnight I hiked over to Catto's to check out the nightscene. Towards the end of my beer a small slim chica caught my eye, gorgeous tight ass. She was yapping with two guys. Again, noted for future potential.

Popped into Hook next door. A couple girls had pretty faces here but not body ideal. Moved on to Cutty Sark, ignoring invites by sidewalk touts to visit their clubs. Cutty Sark was the lamest of the three night venues I visited. I don't think there was a woman under thirty years there. Yech.

Each club -- Catto, Hook, Cutty Sark -- had between 15-20 chicas present.

Passed by Excedra during a walk to Crocodilos. At 3am or so the action in Excedra was tame as well, oldies and fatties. After twenty-five blocks arrived at the door of Crocodilos at 4am. I was ready to scope out a favorite of Dirk's with its young, hot chicas. Unfortunately it was not to be. The doorman quoted me 40 pesos. Ugh. I repeated "40p?!" He said yes. As I am not paying 40p to walk in anyone's door I turned around and made my way back to central, thirty blocks to my hostal, using the walking time to contemplate the day's events.

In sum I found visiting the apartment buildings and their apartments to be of more interest to me than the chicas.

Friday

Hiked up to Callao's subte station for there are a couple dozen cheapies centered here. Hit near to 15 apartments over the next few hours. With a couple apartments as no answer, about 40 chicas total.

I wish I had my list for a handful of apartment mamasans tried charging me a "viewing fee" upon exit, a couple of them being really stupid about it, ranging from 2p to 10p. The biggest idiot was at 916 Rivadavia. Another ***** was at 2058 Tucuman, slamming the door behind me. I stand my ground when they ask for a viewing fee. Simply: no. They realize from my cool posture that I am ready to wait two hours for them to open the door and finally they just let me go.

You can imagine, after some thirty apartments toured, plus three clubs, over 110 chicas seen, only two potential targets, a disinterest was creeping in.

Passing over 454 Rodriguez Pena on WT69's 'warning' (of f-uglies), I walked into 468 Rodriguez Pena. Whoa, who are these two chicas?! One is Gloria, 21, of Paraguay, a petite package, and the other is Jenny of Venezuela, whose slender curves in jeans looked mouthwatering, face so-so. Gloria, however, came across as the friendliest of the two. Quoted 20 pesos for 30 minutes. With limited downside I forked over the 20p.

The beds here are curtained closets. Not much room to maneuver. We stripped down. She started with kissing my upper body, shoulders, chest, nipples, down to my member. BJ unmemorable with the exception of watching her.

She mounted me in cowgirl and, in the process of continuing to kiss my upper body, our faces brushed. In that instant I hoped she would give me access to her mouth. She did, and as we started french kissing it took the session to another level. It felt as if we melted into one another. For minutes at a time, without fucking, we laid there making out, her face in my two hands. It was delicious.

In retrospect, I think it somewhat funny I found a tiny chica in the cheapest of the cheapies to fuck, even cheaper than Quito's 700 pennies a session. Woohoo!

At night I continued on to club Doly's in Flores district, taking Subway A to the last stop, jumping bus 25 till it turned right at Avenida Nazca, walked three blocks. 15 p for entry, get a 625ml Heineken, 10 p Heinekens afterwards. At 10pm I was the first male here, action didn't pick up for a couple hours. Some 17 girls were present by the time I left. Chatted up Cindy for a bit, a 20 year old, big-tittied Paraguayan.

Continued on to the new location of Liza Cafe, within a block of its old location. Nice place. About 15 chicas present, none of which appealed enough for a sale. Entrance was 15p for a drink.

Next place was Lola. There are some nice lookers here. I will head back when I am not so toasted drunk.

Finished the night drinking in a bar-warehouse for punks till the wee hours of the morning, writing off Saturday as a hangover day.

[TangoManiac]

Dirk mentions in the Cocodrillo thread that if you just walk past the doorman like you know what the fuck you're doing, he won't stop you. Dirk says he hasn't paid to get in in a long time. If ever.

[Jaimito Cartero]

It's too bad that you lost most of your notes on the cheaper places. I've often found better service at low to mid priced places than the expensive ones. When I first went to see Camilla on Maipu, it was 50 or 60P at the most for an hour, and what service she gives!

[Tungurahua]

TangoManiac,

Yeah, I remember reading that. However, though I may be confusing details, I seem to remember Dirk in real life has about 150 to 200 pounds more muscle than I do. If I was the doorman I'd keep charging the likes of me while waving Dirk to walk on through too.

[Tungurahua]

Took the time to make new maps and print new lists. Applied for a Brazil visa today. Sooo I have till Monday to kill.

Having hit some 30 of the 40 lower end apartments (20-80pesos /30mins) last Thurs and Friday, finding only three chicas to my liking, I am going to take a tour of the more expensive apartments, meaning 100 pesos-plus (30-plus minutes). Figure I may as well take a look while I am here, even if it is only to pass the time for the next few days.

If anyone wants to join me send a PM and we can meet. I am getting kind of bored waiting around for passports, visas and cameras. Hehe.

As a side note, I walk everywhere and / or take the subway. Never used a taxi yet. Used the occasional bus.

[Tungurahua]

Shiny new passport, Brazil and Paraguay visas attained, only the camera need be fixed and I will push on with travel back to the jungle to sample additional monkey and wild meats.

I've done a bit more looking into the mongering scene, found a couple new clubs in Flores to make note of. As a sidenote, El Cuartito the pizza joint fucking rocks -- a huge thanks to the board for the tip!

Last Wednesday I tried a handful of the higher priced apartments (+100p). 1707 Sante Fe had tall, leggy blonde Sabrina. 3 other passable chicas. Continued on to Parana 1894, 1B. No answer, buzzed twice. MT Alvear 1270, 5b. 2 chunkies. Arenales 1242, 6f, 2 chicas. Augustina was so-so. The other was a wench. It was here I impatiently threw in the towel, realizing I'm never going to be a fan of the BA apartment scene and to accept it. Apartment setups don't do it for me; I like the clubs; clubs in BA central are too pricey; damned if I do, damned if I don't. Hit low-cost-entry New Port pub for a late night beer and, besides glancing over two busty blondes monopolizing the front window, was unimpressed with the chica selection. Anything look like it is not a hardened pro or under thirty years here? Ouch.

Daddy Rulz had me pegged from post one: coming from a lower-priced environment into a higher-priced city does little for one's enthusiasm. I can understand that BA is probably a dream-cum-true to a newbie recently landed on S.A. soil, but I've been on the continent for awhile and even chica-heaven can become mundane. I'll squash any doubts on that by pointing to the internecine bickering on the boards, here and ISG.

In my eyes BA's tourist (or central) clubs needs an overhaul on (a) pricing, (b) regulations, (c) hours. That is, reduce the pricing on entry and drinks, scrap the barfine regulations, and bring the hours of peak operation back to reality. Central's clubs seem to be a tolerance test to see how many hoops one will jump through to get to the prized pussy one desires. The abundance of street touts trying to scam you into their joint is indication of a 'frothy market,' for if the concept of a whorehouse can't sell itself then it is obviously fundamentally flawed.

As for me trying to "re-invent the wheel" -- what wheel? The thing is worn and rotted to the core. Time to upgrade from a wagon-wheel to a Goodyear. Contrary to the advice given to me, the only thing a board like this has to expand its value to its users are the explorers who unlock hidden value, who persist in testing new waters and conceptualizing new lights. Kill that pioneering spirit and you kill its inspiration. As for doing one's homework I did do my homework; review the posts here; bottom line, according to my value-preferences and budget, the homework was not worth doing.

My next comment is about the choice of chica selection: where are the Eighteen year olds? What is so hard about this? The semi-retired and retired male may like 25 and 30 year old pussy, but that's not for me. My time will come, sure, but I am not there yet. Eighteen is the gold (or platinum) standard and everything else is a lesser value. I can pick up chunky, saggy (yet enthusiastic) 25 year old pussies in the bars back home. As mongering for me is a fulfillment of fantasy, not an absolute necessity, Eighteen is where my love lies -- to sample that sparkling fresh diamond who is hemmed in by an impenetrable clique of friends back home. I wager that Paraguay (Asuncion) will have a lot more of this market available than BA does. We shall see.

However, here in BA, in trying to solve the mystery I asked myself: where does Eighteen hide? Then a thought came to me. I bet these pussies reside in the local clubs spread about the city. The typical blue-collar clubs that Jackson makes casual note of on his Clubs-Boliches list (under Balabac). The sweet and innocent newbies to the scene are out in the burbs fucking the local boys for chump change. Only when these pussies have a few years of use do they emigrate to the tourist clubs of central to provide uninspiring, jaded service (been there, done that) at inflated prices (watch the tourist jump through the hoops). The local boys get all the value.

So, partly wanting to put the theory to the test, partly just needing a good shit-facing, I took to Flores on Friday for a night of exploration to locate potentially unknown (to AP Board) clubs. Jumped in a taxi to Rivadavia y Nazca (13 pesos) and had a warmup beer in Doly's (15p entry gets a large beer). Again about 20 girls on duty. Gaby was the best looking there; a couple other slenders but nothing to take my breath away at first sight.

Moved on to New Liza café, its new location being on the corner of Directorio y Nazca. I must have hit its grande opening two Fridays previous for its chica selection dropped from fifteen to five, and 15p got me a small beer this time around (not a large beer like the first time).

Hiked over to Camoon pub, Alberdi 2846. 15p entry for a 650ml Quilmes. 10 chicas present, 1 slender blonde who is definitely fuckable but distant. Dark place but decent latino tunes.

Over to a new discovery -- Oasis pub, Quirno 90 y Ramon L Falcon. 15p entry for a 650ml Budweiser. Doorman quoted me 70p for 30 minutes fucking. It is a nice place inside, nicer than a Doly's. Upbeat. Shiny. A young chica comes to sit beside me, Mariela of Argentina. Hmmm. How old are you? "I am eighteen." She's been here for two weeks now. Ahhh, yes, there might be some meat to my theory after all.

I shifted to Lola's. I think to myself during the walk for the first time in months I feel like my alter-ego Tungurahua again having met a cute 18 year young pussy, precious and fragile like the butterfly's wing, untempered by life to date, flexible as a pretzel, gorgeous as the sun after weeks of twenty-four-hour darkness.

Lola's 15p entry gets one 333ml beer. Subaculture, if you are out there, I agree with you: I like this place too. For chicas it is better than Doly's, New Liza and the places I have glanced in central (it must be the schoolgirl uniforms -- ha!). I may have to pull a multi-chica all-nighter here when I get my camera back to properly document things. 60p buys 30mins with a chica.

Envidia for the first time. 15p entry for 650ml Budweiser. Three chicas here have sweet tiny asses. Fuck, these clubs in Flores are so much more to my liking! Decent drink prices, fixed fuck prices, fuckrooms on premise, straightforward interaction with the chicas -- with no apartment introductions necessary, no fines, taxis or hotels to runup the bill. I am obviously a blue-collar-club kinda guy.

A second previously unlisted club pops up at Jose Marti 25, nearest cross-street being Rivadavia 7614, called Un Lugari I believe. 15p for a 650ml beer. I noted 2 fuckables, but that might be overstated as my notes are noticably messier (and I am drunker). It is only some stairs leading up a hallway, not much else outside to suggest it is a fuckclub.

Other than my fits and starts of BA mongering I have been making a purpose of clubbing it with the younger crowd of my hostel. Opera Bay, the nightclub by the port, is amazing. I will forever remember standing in a drunken haze, drowning in trance-electronica, looking up through the glass panes of the roof at the lighted skyscrapers of Buenos Aires. Wow. Five rooms of different types of music, 30p entry on a Friday. 8p beers inside. Definitely worth it. Also hit a variety of pubs in Palmero (Honduras 5000 y Serrano 1600, a circle of pubs and clubs). Sahara in Recoleta last night was okay, nothing special. Took in a Flamenco performance -- the opening act had me choking back tears it was so intensely beautiful to watch. Attended Boca Jrs versus Arsenal football game earlier today (1-1 tie).

I met a guy earlier in the week who tipped me on the theaters here (stage plays). He surprised me with ticket prices, quoting 20p for entry. Fuck me. I think I'm going to start hitting some theater plays if this be true.

[Tungurahua]

Met long-time Quito board poster Artisttyp on Saturday. It's great to shoot the shit about mongering; certainly can't do it with the crowd in my hostel. It's like therapy for me.:-) ("For the price of pussy on this continent you can't even get a "hello" back home.")

We ate and drank in sidewalk cafes while visiting apartments throughout the afternoon. I took down two chicas along the way, both Paraguayans. Gabi was a great find at 392 Riobamba: I had a smile on my face for an hour afterwards.

Hit two theater plays since last post, Cabaret and Victor / Victoria. Liked Cabaret more but the latter was good too. As the theaters are small buying the cheap seats (35p Cabaret, 30p Victor) are good enough for me. Will scope out a third play in a couple days.

[Tungurahua]

A Wednesday departure will wrap up exactly two months in Buenos Aires.

Reading recent sentiment on the Quality of Life, Quantity of Life, there are some excellently expressed thoughts. I agree BA is a city of distinction, not only in South America but the world. I knew something was odd many months ago when everyone I met while travelling -- including liberal-treehugging-potsmoking-dreadlock-fuck backpackers -- raved about this city to no end. The BobMarley-scum of the road usually hate every city as a rule.

There is a lot to do to keep one busy. Seems just as I would tire of one thing another came along to entertain me. The food is exceptional. Love being able to pop into any cafe and get a tasty meal for a handful of dollars. Sure beats the endless chicken-rice-platano variations of Peru and Bolivia (fuck I hate rice & platano). The steaks are brilliant. Great food; easy, cheap transport; safe streets.

The mongering: my first months on South American soil I used to immediately write pages about each experience with each girl. My last lay here it took me four days to make mention of it in my journal, then only a couple sentences. Getting laid is now an afterthought! As fucked up as it sounds am I pussy-saturated, needing a new challenge to engage my senses ... ? Hmmmm ...

Recently typed an (private) email summarizing the last twelve months travelling South America. While pussy prices are generally astonishing around this continent compared to home the price of doing something like a jungle tour is even more astonishing.

I have done two three-week trekking tours in the Amazon (Peru & Bolivia), both $700US each. Do the math. For buying the lives of three men (guide, cook & porter) for three weeks of trekking it works out to 47 cents an hour for each man. Stupendous value. So while some may indirectly comment on my unenthusiastic response to Buenos Aires mongering I know it is due to a lack of context as to the big picture (and not everyone reads the miniscule Quito board).

There are other pockets of extreme value to be tapped. So far Ecuador-Peru-Bolivia are the goldmines of the continent for incredibly inexpensive outdoor challenges / adventures -- climb a 6000 meter mountain/volcano for a hundred bucks. Argentina is a goldmine for a relatively modern culture at discount prices. In a country like Peru I constantly felt like I had to look over my back; by comparison it is tame here in Argentina. It is a great bonus to be able to simply relax in safety.

Would I want to live here? Ultimately, no. Great place to visit but I would never give up what my country -- for all its drawbacks and contradictions -- offers me in terms of life-opportunity for a one-way ticket here. I will keep my first-world passport close to heart, thank you, and use it as a springboard to treat myself to the delicious diversities of the world -- actualizing life as a global buffet.

Moving on, continuing to circle round the continent, I don't know if my travels will lead me back here for there are a lot of other locations I have to yet to observe. If I do return it would not be a hard reality to digest. I depart Buenos Aires with some great experiences, memories and pictures.

As my posts are useless in terms of enhancing the value of the Argentina Private board -- unlike amazing, tireless WorldTrader69 -- I am setting a timer to have this content-diluting thread to self-destruct within seven days.

Ciao!

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