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WorldTravel69
04-05-08, 05:04
This Thread is for some of us that need help getting it up.
I have a hard time getting it up with a condum on.
Some Chicas like sex and are trying to make extra money for themselves and or their families.
So they will do BBBJ in total or at least until we get it up, some will not.
This List is of the Chicas that will do BBBJ in some part.
Lately I have not found many. Some of you know the ones that will.
If you think this List is inappropriate I will delete it. Let me know?
I will start with:
Clarisa or Larisa at 359 Maipu, piso 5 74.
Camilla at 359 Maipu, piso 5 74.
Daisy on J. D. Peron. 4381-5785.
Jessica on J. D. Peron.
Mara at Cabildo 2985.
Marisa at Castelar.
Maria on the corner of Florida and Paraguay.
Romina of Catto's.
Got more?
Jaimito Cartero
04-05-08, 05:44
I think all the Chicas at Maipu will, except Rocio (and even that is spotty)
Punter 127
04-05-08, 13:41
I've never had a Maipu chica refuse BBBJ including Rocio, most will even do CIM if that's want you want. As a matter fact I always found it pretty easy to find BBBJ in BA, I hope that's not changing.
This Thread is for some of us that need help getting it up.
I have a hard time getting it up with a condum on.
Some Chicas like sex and are trying to make extra money for themselves and or their families.
So they will do BBBJ in total or at least until we get it up, some will not.
This List is of the Chicas that will do BBBJ in some part.
Lately I have not found many. Some of you know the ones that will.
If you think this List is inappropriate I will delete it. Let me know?WT69 we are all indebted to you for sharing the results of your untiring privado explorations. However, I don't think a BBBJ list is a good idea and I would rather it were deleted. For the following reasons:
1. BBBJ carried a higher degree of risk than CBJ. How much extra risk, has been debated elsewhere on this board, but certainly some degree of additional risk. There are already few enough incentives for board members to write reviews or provide recommendation on specific chicas. This list might be an additional disincentive to share information. It will certainly put me off. Let me be be clear about this: I like BBBJ and think it is worth the additional risk. But I can't say I like the idea that if I were to post a review mentioning that I had a really good BBBJ experience with some nice spinner from Chaco province, and next thing I know she's on the BBBJ list and another ten guys a week are turning up at her apartment expecting the girl to be gagging on their big cocks an swallowing their cum, just like they've seen in porno movies.
2. It could turn out to be a very long list. WT69 I think you must have been very unlucky. I have been here over a month on this trip, and I have only had a girl refuse to do BBBJ once, and that was Alexis of Bairesgirls. I would hazard a guess that more than half the working girls in BA will do BBBJ. Although this sometimes may only be on a second visit or for a small propina. And by the way Alexis is a lovely girl with a great attitude, even if she does does not do BBBJ. In spite of this I would recommend her to anyone.
3. The list could encourage other establishments to follow the example of Larrea 1072 and Junin 1631 and offer BBBJ only as an extra, and not as part of the standard service. The very existence of the list could give some other privados that idea that this is a 'special' service, which they ought to charge more for. At the moment, it is provided as part of a normal service by many privados. In some privados, (like St Fe 1707, you have to give the girl a small propina (20p to 30p) if you want BBBJ. In this case, the girl gets to keep the whole tip, whereas if you pay upfront to the house they take 50% or more of the extra 'service charge'
She is number #1 with a BULLET. She will try for 300 pesos.
I had her for 250 pesos last November and had my mind blown away. The second time, I took her for multiple hours and I still have erotic dreams about the experience. At that point she had gained some weight and was not well groomed.
The way she looked a few days ago was hot--the way exxon described her years ago.
Romina from cattos does superb service once she knows you----her bbbj is upper tier stuff. This is combined with gfe. Last fall, she would ask for 300 pesos and accept 200
She is a kind, warm woman who responds to being treated well in a very sensual way. I traded a pink cel phone that cost us$100 on ebay for one of the most intense sensual experience in my limited mongering career: 11pm to sun rise. The loving care between sessions was as intense as the sex--------lots of oral play not designed to produce leche, but to make me crazy. Maybe that why I am a little bit off. There are a number of posts about her from a few years ago under cattos. She is gourmet service after the first few visits when she is comfortable with you. She is mid to late 20's, short, very cuvy body w / bad bleach job on her hair and cute but not classical beautiful face.
Michel--the brazilian red head, late 30's. She is not as hot as she looked a few years ago. But this discussion is about.
High quality bbbj. She knows every trick in the book and has muscular control downstairs that compensates for being in her late 30's and 15 lbs overweight. Under cafe iberia, they say she is asking for 300 pesos and not looking that good these days. At iberia I think she would go for 200 prsos or less, despite her asking price. Last fall she had me moaning and calling her name for 200 pesos for what was about 2 hours plus I bought her dinner. She is an intelligent woman and good company for dinner. Very good english, but clearly not a fantacy 22 year old.
These girls come to mind when I think of quality bbbj
I agree with Lysander on this issue.
In addition, lists of specific women are very likely to attract too much attention to them, effectively causing them problems.
I agree with Lysander on this issue.
In addition, lists of specific women are very likely to attract too much attention to them, effectively causing them problems.What kind of substantial problems could it cause them? Last I heard they sucked dick to make money and most of them like making as much money as they can. Plus, reference your post on ATMs regarding how much mongers pay attention anyway. Seems to me the downsides of posting about quality bbbj providers are minimal. Once again, AP mongers ascribing way too much importance to themselves and how much influence they have in the local market. In addition, YMMV issues cum into play as well.
I honestly believe that if every AP member dried up and blew away overnight it would have a negligible effect on the best, and worst, bbbj providers in BA.
I agree with Lysander on this issue.
In addition, lists of specific women are very likely to attract too much attention to them, effectively causing them problems.I do not see the harm in the list, other then maybe having your favorite girl, busy and no having her when you want.
From the girls' point of view, itmeans more costumers, and more money. From her pic, Carolina from Orleans would not have been my first pick, but after hearing about her BBBJ skills, I plan to pay her a visit soon.
What kind of substantial problems could it cause them? Last I heard they sucked dick to make money and most of them like making as much money as they can. Plus, reference your post on ATMs regarding how much mongers pay attention anyway. Seems to me the downsides of posting about quality bbbj providers are minimal. Once again, AP mongers ascribing way too much importance to themselves and how much influence they have in the local market. In addition, YMMV issues cum into play as well.
I honestly believe that if every AP member dried up and blew away overnight it would have a negligible effect on the best, and worst, bbbj providers in BA.Did you read my post? Yes of course girls do suck cock for money. I certainly don't think that most chicas would mind being included in the list, especially not experienced pros like Michel and Romina, who would probably welcome the extra business. It may be true that foreigners are a relatively small proportion of the local P4P scene. However don't underestimate the effect the recent influx of high spending foreigners is having on the market. Prices and service levels are set at the margin. You only have to visit any Recoleta club, to see what a difference this has made in the last two years The more the word gets around that foreigners are crazy about BBBJ, and are willing to pay extra for it, then the more likely it is that individual chicas and privados, especially those that have a lot of foreign clients, will start asking extra for it.
Anyway, if we really want to make all sexual services into a commodities, why stop with a BBBJ list. Why not have a list for girls who provide anal, another list for girls who are OK with DATY, another one for girls who do beso negro - what about other service? For those who like to have everything handed to them on a plate, we could even provide minimum service specifications and suggested prices brackets for each additional service.
No. I would rather there wasn't a BBBJ list. If people want to find girls who do BBBJ, or provide any other service for that matter, they can read through the posts (with the help of the search facility) and then at least they might get a better idea of the overall quality of the experience in context.
Anyway, if we really want to make all sexual services into a commodities, why stop with a BBBJ list. Why not have a list for girls who provide anal, another list for girls who are OK with DATY, another one for girls who do beso negro - what about other service? For those who like to have everything handed to them on a plate, we could even provide minimum service specifications and suggested prices brackets for each additional service.
No. I would rather there wasn't a BBBJ list. If people want to find girls who do BBBJ, or provide any other service for that matter, they can read through the posts (with the help of the search facility) and then at least they might get a better idea of the overall quality of the experience in context.Lysander-I read your post. My contention here is that "sexual services" ARE commodities. I would agree that the "transaction" is of a very different nature than many transactions, but a commodity nonetheless. And, maybe for some, there is a certain amount of distaste for the "clinical" nature of a list that provides somebody's opinions about best BBBJs. The same would apply to the most willing recipients of DATY, providers of beso negro or whatever. And yes, some may look askance at what they see as the "spoon feeding" of information about these services. But, my point is that this is a tempest in a teapot, that most mongers will continue to monger in the way that suits them, with or without, a list that addresses the "bests" in any category. My guess is that the BBBJ list will only be updated every now and then and won't be a thread that many mongers visit, and if they do, won't have much effect on their behavior.
As for the Recoleta clubs, for sure, cash laden tourists have certainly made some difference, but Recoleta is but a very small part of Buenos Aires gatoland.
Don't sweat an innocuous list about best BBBJs on AP. It's like spit in a hurricane. You won't see it or feel it.
Cheers,
Dogg
Jaimito Cartero
04-06-08, 10:30
Bring it on. BBBJ list, BN, Anal, etc. This is the information age! I think that Lysanders contention that gringo push the cost up of these extra services is a bit far fetched. It's all part of the same service, and I don't pay extra for it, and will avoid privados that encourage such behavior.
YMMV when it comes to services offered, IMHO.
Easy list for me.
Eiki. Platynum. Beach ball through a garden hose. Exellent technique with super finish.
Romina from Maipu. Same as above.
Alexa from Rox's list. Very good during. Just Ok finish.
Gysella from Hook. Oh yeah. Total package.
Julia from excedra. Small tetas secratary. Very good finish.
Patricia from Madahos. Awsome. Great finish.
Veronika from Ness. Enthusiastic. Doesn't take no for an answer.
Hope this helps. Happy mongering. Toymann.
PS. Exon's ex-ho Miss Sol finished just fine. Missing in action for some time now.
My contention here is that "sexual services" ARE commodities.
Don't sweat an innocuous list about best BBBJs on AP. It's like spit in a hurricane. You won't see it or feel it.
DoggWell in the interests of those who are into commodity sex, I have been going through my notes of current visit and previous visits last year. (Five months in all) to compile a list of all the chicas who did BBBJ, or who in conversation said that they would do BBBJ. To my surprise I was only able to find five girls who absolutely do not do BBBJ. So in the interests of simplicity, for the benefit of those who like to have their sex nice and predictable, cut and dried (and for those who feel safer with girls who don't offer BBBJ) here is a starter list of girls who don't do BBBJ. I am sure other experienced board members will be only to happy to add to the list. I don't expect the final list to be that long.
1. Alexis of Bairesgirls. Lovely girl, nice personality. Nice experience. Recommended, especially if you prefer CBJ.
2. Augustina (who used to work for Gysell and has now set up on her own)
3. A blond girl who's name I forget at Amenbar 2313 P1 in November who refused to do BBBJ even for a reasonable propina.
4. Noelia (very popular girl last November) at Esmeralda 517. Would not do BBBJ, as was made clear by madam, but Noelia did promise that if I went to see her again, she would do it. Sadly I never got back to find out.
5. Slim dark haired Portenia from Exedra. I think she was called Marina.
And that folks is it! On the other hand, there are more than 50 girls on my BBBJ list. I may post this list some time if I can be bothered. My conclusion is that most (maybe 90%) of chicas in BA will do BBBJ. Sometimes they might take a bit of persuading, and perhaps in some cases a small propina (20-30p) may be needed.
In general the news for BBBJ enthusiasts is good. A couple of caveats are in order. Firstly, I don't frequent massage establishments (my visit to Gysells was my only such visit) I suspect that girls who work in these places are less likely to offer BBBJ, which is why they work there and not in regular privados. Secondly, I have talked to a number of girls in clubs, and been with a few. They all offered BBBJ. However, I have heard it said that even with the high prices they charge there are girls in these places who don't offer BBBJ if they can get away with it. As many of them don't rely on repeat business this is hardly surprising. However, I can't personally confirm this rumour.
The other good news is that, in my experience, the average standard of BBBJ is quite high. Although most girls get higher marks for effort and persistence than for technical merit. Some girls don't like CIM and will only do BBBJ if you can convince them you won't come in their mouth. Other girls don't seem to mind and will go at it like a mini Hoover in a effort to make you come as soon as possible. Not good if you have a hair trigger.
Jaimito Cartero
04-09-08, 09:21
Well in the interests of those who are into commodity sex, I have been going through my notes of current visit and previous visits last year. Since you're so keen on the issue, simply start your own thread.
WorldTravel69
04-09-08, 12:17
It is a List. I don't mind adding the "The ones that don't", to the bottom.
That way you only have to carry one List.
Since you're so keen on the issue, simply start your own thread.
Jaimito Cartero
04-09-08, 12:44
It is a List. I don't mine adding the "The ones that don't", to the bottom.
That way you only have to carry one List.Well, if Lysander is serious, which I doubt, having a different list would make it clear.
Rather like having to hit start on your computer to turn it off, it can lead to confusion.
My basic dislike for the BBBJ list is the fact that it is a PROMOTIONAL LIST, rather than a particular issue with BBBJ. I had the same issues with the Beginner's Guide, and also any ANAL, TOP TEN, BEST FUCKS, SUBMISSIVES, or what have you lists.
The majority of Worldtraveller's lists are a real time saver for the person looking over a destination for the first time. Their best feature is that they are non partisan and non-promotional. Thus, there is little that really tries to send people to any specific place or activity. They also tend to be LONG. In this way, they can be very useful without damage.
Any kind of ordered list, or promotional list, is a magnet for lazy people and the type of people most likely to cause problems because of unreasonable expectations (beginner's especially). Promotional lists are HIGHLY CONCENTRATED INFORMATION. They tend to produce HIGHLY CONCENTRATED ACTIVITY. They will tend to focus attention on the top of the list. That attention inevitably destroys the entries at the top of whatever list. This is the essential difference between "tourist trap" and "off the beaten path". "Tourist traps" tend to be near the top of a lot of lists.
In the ATM post, I did say that nobody payed attention. In some respects, that is good. It insures that the information in the forum does the least possible damage and gets the broadest distribution. Those who really care, pay attention and find answers. Lazy people looking for easy thrills will find lists and Beginner's Guides.
These women may sell sex for money, but each one is not prepared to do that much more than 4-5 times / day, 6 days / week at most. Most would prefer less, with a higher rate. So any one woman won't service more than 30 men per week. That isn't many. The women getting top billing will be changed, certainly for the worse. You can already see it with Caroline, where someone says: "Now I willl try to see her." Her skills have been mentioned many times before in the forum, BUT FEW PAYED ATTENTION. Now she has been FEATURED. That will probably have some effects on her, mostly bad: 1. Burnout, resulting in poorer service 2. Limited Availability 3. Higher Prices 4. Issues with co-workers (envy, resentment) if she has any.
There have been examples of this effect here in hotels, apartments, bars. IIRC, "Hotel Arte Suites"(or Design Suites?) was one of the early casualties. I made most of these same observations in ISG Paraguay when someone asked for a list of the "Top 10 Apartments". If the list is provided, the top 10 surely won't be the top ten for long.
WT, be careful who you put at the top of the list. Make sure they are ones you have already seen.
WorldTravel69
04-12-08, 10:50
This is a reason I started this thread. So you don't get fucked like I did.
I went in search of Mara at Cabildo 2985. It was around 2pm and only three chicas were available. Mara was not. I picked, sounds, like Leet, for 70p.
No BBBJ, no DATY. VERY BAD JBC. Suck, stop, hand, suck, stop, hand, suck, stop, hand, suck, I stopped her and left. You get the picture.
Shaved pussy, but so what.
This is a reason I started this thread. So you don't get fucked like I did.
I went in search of Mara at Cabildo 2985. It was around 2pm and only three chicas were available. Mara was not. I picked, sounds, like Leet, for 70p.
No BBBJ, no DATY. VERY BAD JBC. Suck, stop, hand, suck, stop, hand, suck, stop, hand, suck, I stopped her and left. You get the picture.
Shaved pussy, but so what.Your experience shows the need for a list of girls who don't. Leet would be on it and you would have known to avoid her.
Some guys are upset, because they think the BBJ list will is too promotional, and will cause chicas to raise their price.
If the list is limited to just who does BBJ, with good, so-so, or bad, then it will not promote any single girl. But if the list has one girl that is the absolute best, then she will have allot more attention, and her prices may be affected.
If the list is large, with lots of girls that do good BBJ, It should not affect price. And is not promotional. I see no problem with having other lists, as long as they are large, and do not promote one girl over all others. Having their skill rated between good to bad, is also helpful.
TejanoLibre
06-03-08, 21:27
Keep the thread.
One of the girls from X was asking me or telling me that she is aware of the ¨list ¨. Of mongers seeking girls that will do that.
Interesting!
This is absurd. She may blow you without a rubber and not me, or vice versa. She may not blow you without a rubber the first time and she may the second time. The privado may say they do / don't do that but the woman may have other ideas. She might blow without a rubber on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays and not on Tuesdays and Thursdays. She might blow you without a rubber if you bring a rubber with some really nasty spermicide on it. She might blow you without a rubber if she is drunk and not if she is sober. She might blow you without a rubber when she has no boyfriend but not when she does. She might blow you (or fuck you) without a rubber if she is pissed off at her boyfriend. Maybe she would have blown you without a rubber if the last asshole hadn't promised not to come in her mouth and then done so anyway. And so forth.
I go to one place in particular and guys ask the women if they will do BBBJ, while they are still in the club, while other people are at the table, and they say "no." I laugh because I have come in these same women's mouths. And then someone will post that Fabiana from Privado X will do BBBJ and they go through five "Fabianas" a month.
Very true - I have also found it often depends on hundreds of variables to whether she blows you without or not. I was once with two girls and one, a girl that had often given me BBBJ suddenly slipped on a rubber. When I was about to protest she held a finger to her mouth (like the silence nurse in the hospital pictures - Hahaha) and pointed to the other girl. Later on my friend told me the other girl didn't give bare back and she didn't want her to know that she did.
The funny part is that some time later a friend of mine took out this second girl and she gave him BBBJ so the next day I took her out and she also gave me a BBBJ without even questioning it. She even swallowed! And Similar things have happened to me with anal sex.
These girls are careful what they tell each other.
This is absurd. She may blow you without a rubber and not me, or vice versa. She may not blow you without a rubber the first time and she may the second time. The privado may say they do / don't do that but the woman may have other ideas. She might blow without a rubber on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays and not on Tuesdays and Thursdays. She might blow you without a rubber if you bring a rubber with some really nasty spermicide on it. She might blow you without a rubber if she is drunk and not if she is sober. She might blow you without a rubber when she has no boyfriend but not when she does. She might blow you (or fuck you) without a rubber if she is pissed off at her boyfriend. Maybe she would have blown you without a rubber if the last asshole hadn't promised not to come in her mouth and then done so anyway. And so forth.
I go to one place in particular and guys ask the women if they will do BBBJ, while they are still in the club, while other people are at the table, and they say "no." I laugh because I have come in these same women's mouths. And then someone will post that Fabiana from Privado X will do BBBJ and they go through five "Fabianas" a month.There speaks a man after my own heart. Much as many people on this board seem to want it to be so - P4p is not a simple commodity business - it is a complex (and unpredictable) service business. That's what makes it interesting. It is ridiculous to think you can package and sell sex in the same way you sell pizza. I agree, the whole idea of a BBBJ list is absurd.
That brings back fond memories of deciding to take out the sister of a gal I had been with many times. She gave me BBFS and made me swear not to tell her sister, so I didn't. A few months later I decided to do a threesome with them since, although I had been with a bunch of pairs of sisters, I had never done them at the same time. So it starts out we change rubbers every time we change partners, then it goes to we wipe off the rubber every time, then it goes to we don't wipe off the rubber. Finally the "original" sister goes to the bathroom and the BBFS sister pulls the rubber off, holding her finger to her lips and glancing nervously at the bathroom door. As soon as the toilet flushed, the rubber went back on. I have heard both of these sisters swear up and down they do not do BBBJ.
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