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I went there in August because I wanted to soak up the atmosphere of Lugo's swearing ceremony (it was good, by the way) And it was nice to have a bit of heat after invierno in BA.
Chicas? Well, not so much. I saw a few, in some run-down semi. Cafe type places with grotty rooms at the back. 100K Guaranís was the cost, and that was not a decent deal at the time. Presumably if there was good info to be had, better chicas and clubs would have been available. Maybe others have had better luck. I have a photo of the best gal I met, if anyone's interested I will try and find it.
I am a big fan of Asuncion. Like every city there are upper end privados and not so upper end privados.
The most upper end privado in Asuncion will cost 100,000 guaranis an hour which is now about $20US.
There are a a few differences between the privados in Asuncion and the privados in Buenos Aires. In Asuncion when you pay for 1 hour, you will receive 1 hour. Often times they have a clock in the room.
As almost anyone can tell you, in Buenos Aires you are lucky if you receive 40 minutes for your hour.
The other thing is that the girls in the privados in Asuncion are generally younger. The average age of the girls in the better privados in Asuncion is probably close to 20.
As far as appearance goes, a cute girl is a cute girl and the girls in a good privado in Asuncion can compare to the cutest girls in any privado in Buenos Aires.
But just like Buenos Aires, it will take a week or two to figure out the privado scene in Asuncion. Once you are familiar with the different privados in Asuncion you will probably think like me I. E. You are in heaven.
Some people like to meet girls in places like Madaho or Black. Those places do not exist in Asuncion. Asuncion is almost entirely a privado scene
So one goes to a privado twice a day, if one is lucky (young) three times a day, that is 2-3 hours out of the day. What does one do in Asuncion for the rest of the 14 hour of the day (assuming 8 hours of sleep) Is there entertainment, cultural, social activities there like BA?
Can any one give me any infor about the privados in Asuncion?
Thanks!
I have written PM's to a couple people listing my favorite privados in Asuncion.
Jackson's website International Sex Guide has a long list combiled by WorldTraveler.
Unless you are Superman you will never be able to test drive all of the privados in Asuncion.
Downtown my favorite privados are.
Diana Escorts 217 Cerro Cora.
P & E 462 Cerro Cora new addresss.
Deseos Agency 1008 or 1012 14 de Mayo.
Sigma Mia Mexico 451
A few blocks away I like.
Hot Girl Eusebio Ayala 326 apt 1
The lineup of girls is always changing. You never know who will have the hottest girls.
The other thing is that the hottest girls are most likely to be occupied and not available for viewing. If you don't like what you see you can always wait until the girls that are occupied finish with their clientes.
If you do it right, Asuncion has incredible talent in their privados.
What you do the other 20 hours of the day is up to you. Not being a night person the lack of clubs does not bother me. During the daytime walking arround Asuncion reminds me of when I used to walk arround Mazatlan or Puerta Villarta (spelling) on the west coast of Mexico. Very relaxing
So one goes to a privado twice a day, if one is lucky (young) three times a day, that is 2-3 hours out of the day. What does one do in Asuncion for the rest of the 14 hour of the day (assuming 8 hours of sleep) Is there entertainment, cultural, social activities there like BA?It's a small place for 3-5 days at the most.
One day that was a public holiday on a Saturday we hired a taxi for about 300.000 Guarani and he took us for a 7hr ride to some small cities around Asuncion. Some of them on January are full of people on holidays. They are on the river side with beaches. When we went it was out of season so they were empty of people. The beaches I mean.
Read the Asuncion forum on ISG. Plenty of info there and privado list as well.
Next week I am returning to Asuncion for 4 days with my girlfriend which means no privados, or not many privados, for me. However, I like Asuncion a lot.
There is a barrio called Carmelito which is next to Villa Morra. Carmelito is as affluent as Greenwich, Connecticut used to be.
You can rent a huge house, with a huge tropically landscaped yard, huge swimming pool and tennis court for $2000 to $3000 US dollars a month. Sure beats a crappy little apartment in Buenos Aires for $1000 to $2000 a month, especially in July when you are freezing your ass off in Buenos Aires and Asuncion has subtropical tempatures.
StrayLight
11-09-08, 23:57
So one goes to a privado twice a day, if one is lucky (young) three times a day, that is 2-3 hours out of the day. What does one do in Asuncion for the rest of the 14 hour of the day (assuming 8 hours of sleep) Is there entertainment, cultural, social activities there like BA?There's a pretty interesting little book called, "At The Tomb Of The Inflatable Pig," by John Gimlette, that you might consider reading before you go there.
http://www.amazon.com/At-Tomb-Inflatable-Pig-Paraguay/dp/1400078520/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1226282182&sr=8-1
I'm here in Asuncion with my girlfriend who can't stand me.
This morning I sent her off with a real estate agent to look at houses.
This is the good part. My favorite privado, which used to be called A & C Productions simply changed their name to Gira Productions. They are located on 1241 or 1243 14 de Mayo.
Went there early afternoon. Four girls were presented. 3 of them ranged from very, very cute to gorgeous. I picked the 2 friendliest for one half hour each, separate, not together. They were both 18 years old. That cost $60,000 guarani each for a total of $120,000 guarani I. E $25 US$ total.
Being an alumni of the Rock Harders Graduate School of Bareback Sex **motto: If you are not doing it bareback it's not worth doing ** I did both of them bareback.
For a total of $320,000 guarani ($100,000 propina each to lose the $%&* condom) I was in heavon. $320,000 guarani is about $65 US.
I love this town. Can't wait until my girlfriend finds a house so I can live here.
Forgot one thing. The first girl said she was only going to work until January. I asked for her phone number so I could continue to see her after she leaves the privado. As I was leaving she handed me a card with her phone number on it.
It's been years since I've visited Asuncion. I used to have "low friends in high places" in that town. My first visit not only restored my hope for my manhood - it provided the proudest moment of my life.
23 June 2004, at the Direccion del Servicio Geografico Militar. The last day of my course on Aeronautical Cartography, teaching their people to make aeronautical charts (I don't know if they ever did. The graduation ceremony, and it's a big deal for Coronel V. He asked the Brigade band, from across Avenida Artigas, to play martial music for the ceremony.
They started, of course, with Paraguay's national anthem, and I "stood to" with my hand over my heart, as proper for me in civvie suit and tie.
Followed by:
The Star-Spangled Banner!
There is one (count me, one) American government representative this side of 1776 Avenida Mariscal Lopez.
How could I take it but ... To honor the Nation that sent me, yes, but also to honor me personally as my Nation's representative.
The honor still brings tears to my eyes, five years later.
And they played us out with "The Stars & Stripes Forever".
Tequila Tim
11-17-09, 03:45
My 1st impression of Asuncion (ASU) from the airplane as our plane was landing was that this place is GREEN. Lush, fertile, and HOT (my 2nd impression after departing the plane) 90 degrees and humid. Customs was a breeze (remember gringos need a visa) and before long we were flush with starter garani at an exchange rate of 4760/$US (not too bad after later comparing rates downtown)
We decided on a taxi (90K garini) despite knowing that a bus would take us to centro for much less. The ride in was a bit longer than I expected, around 30 minutes, but the taxi driver explained he was taking the local roads to avoid traffic. My 1st impressions: definitely a poor country but there was a distict vitality here. Lots of new residencial construction. The streets were for the most part clean and lots of chicas walking about. The cab driver confirmed my observations as he mentioned that there are 6 chicas / hombre in ASU. I don't know if I believe him but certainly at this point I have no reason to doubt him!
We arrived at our hotel, the Asuncio Palace Hotel on Colon Street. My associate and I decided to stay at this hotel based on favorable web reviews. On the outside it appears a bit dated but we were pleasantly surprised by the rooms. Spacious, clean and very comfortable at a price of $45US per double (so we could bring visitors).
After checking in we wandered about town, definitely not a tourist destination, the streets were very quiet. We eventually wandered to Deseos at 1008 14 de Mayo for some recreational activity and were presented with 4 chicas. My associate chose Ivana (a quite doable Amazonian flacita while I chose Joana, a cute rubia with a bunda that wouldn't quit (more about her bunda later). 120K guarini / hour, completo for 25 bucks! The session was unrushed, great rapport, and yes, the colita offered (and accepted). There was no short timing here. After what seemed an hour and a half I told Joana to check to see if my associate was done and she confirmed he was. Wow, nice change from the short timing in BA.
After our sessions we took a cab over to Calle Palma for some nourishment and quickly found a place where a bunch of locals were dining outside (it was very nice outside at this time). The place we chose was Na Eustaquia on 437 Palma and we dined on muchos chipas (a corn based shell with various stuffings) empanadas, beer, and aqua for 44.5K (8 or 9 bucks).
We then started back to the hotel (I wanted to catch the Ravens game in my room). 2 blocks from our hotel we heard loud music at a place called La Choperia on Colon and decided to check it out. A live band was playing outside the resturant and we enjoyed some beer and water for an hour or so for 15K guarani. My associate and I both noted how down to earth the Paraguayian chicas presented themselves. Dancing and swaying with the music without a purpose. Lots of lookers here and the waiter told me that they have the live music every night until midnight. Alas, we left at 11 to watch the 2nd half of the glorious Raven victory over the hapless Brownie Scouts and agreed that this town has potential.
More details to follow.
Member #3320
11-17-09, 04:57
Tequila Tim,
Excellent report. Please keep us updated.
Nice Post Tequila. I'm glad to see you are enjoying Paraguay so far, so it seems. I actually prefer Asuncion to Buenos Aires, but must admit that I'm a countryboy at heart and the big city is sometimes too much for me. Certainly Asuncion isn't for everyone. I think the people there are wonderful and they have always treated me quite well.
Just a couple of minor comments.
Chipa is actually made of mandioca flour. It has a pretty distinct taste and can be quite good (or really dry and hard!
An aside - What you payed for an hour, many skill-less Paraguayas there in Asuncion may take a week to make. I know personally 5 different women who all used to work in Asuncion as maids. They are worked hard and typically mistreated by the "rich" employers (I think they were actually closer to middle class in their cases) Their monthly salary was about 400K - 500K Guarani a month! Around $80 US!
Member #3320
11-17-09, 05:04
Their monthly salary was about 400K - 500K Guarani a month! Around $80 US!Thats also the standard monthly salary of full time maids in New Delhi, San Salvador & Bangkok.
Just my 2 cents.
What was the round trip Airfare from Buenos Aires?
From all the reports I've heard from the likes of El Alamo & Rock Harders it sounds like a good investment to spend a couple nights up there.
Also what did it cost and how long did it take You to get your Visa and can you get it on Las Harris in Recoleta?
Exon
Tequila Tim
11-17-09, 12:17
What was the round trip Airfare from Buenos Aires?
From all the reports I've heard from the likes of El Alamo & Rock Harders it sounds like a good investment to spend a couple nights up there.
Also what did it cost and how long did it take You to get your Visa and can you get it on Las Harris in Recoleta?
ExonI made my arrangements in the States before coming. I booked the flight via Aerolineas Argentina's web site for $218.00 but $78 of that was due to various airport / exit taxes. Since my booking I've discovered there is a Uruguayian airline that has a flight from Jorge Newberry-Montevideo-ASU (perhaps better due to leaving from the local BA airport) Since I live in DC I visited the Paraguayan Embassy on Mass. Ave. And it took a couple days. I've heard that others had no problem getting thier visas in BA. There are two types of visas: an unlimited one good for the life of the passport for $65US and a one-time entry visa for $45US. Make sure you specify which one you like.
Since I live in DC I visited the Paraguayan Embassy on Mass. Ave. And it took a couple days. I've heard that others had no problem getting thier visas in BA. There are two types of visas: an unlimited one good for the life of the passport for $65US and a one-time entry visa for $45US. Make sure you specify which one you like."Unlimited for the life of the passport"? That's a welcome change. Each of the "turista" visas I got from the Paraguayan Embassy in D. C. were multiple-entry visas, for $65, but they were only good for 90 days from the first entry into Paraguay. Likewise, for the visa they put in my official passport, when I first went there in 2004.
My last visit was New Years' week, 2005-2006. Doubt if the chicas in the Arena Cafe would remember me. There may be a fresh crop of chicas by now. Gets me "warm and tingly" just thinking about it! I certainly prefer the Paraguayitas to the few GDP's I encountered in BA ... Asuncion would be paradaisical to me, if it only had a seacoast.
Yeah, I got a Paraguayan visa in early 2007 that was good for the life of my passport. Unlimited entries, unlimited stay. Very easy to get. Here in BA, you can take your passport to the Paraguayan embassy, leave it overnight, and get it back the next day.
TAM used to have a deal flight a week (I think it was a Thursday evening flight) for $100 dollars. I've seen flights from Aerolinea Argentina for as low as $150 dollars a couple of weeks in advance.
Normal price is around $200-$250 like Tequila mentioned.
Tequila Tim
11-18-09, 11:48
The breakfast at the Asuncion Palace was OK, continental breakfast with fruit, cold-cuts, bread, and cereal / yogurt. The coffee was good and I guess this is the most important aspect of a good breakfast. We finally met the sister owners of the hotel and they asked us if we knew of the recently renovated suites in the hotel. We didn't and after the sisters showed them to us we decided to change our rooms immediately. For $46US per night the suites were as big as a 1 bedroom apartment in BA (sans cocina but w / refrigerator) and with wireless. Argento's suite was paticulary nice with a walk out balconey overlooking the river. At this time you can't make on-line reservations (we just drove up w / o reservations)
After breakfast and showering, we decided to go to Babilonia (1270 Azara) a privado recomended by another member upon a recent visit. It was already hot and this privado was about 15 blocks away so we decided to take a cab since there was a taxi stand adjacent to the hotel. We asked the cabbie to stay while we viewed the line-up and quickly decided we'll stay and paid him. 4 girls were presented I chose Melissa, a tall, perfectly shaped morena that in my mind was a "9" while Argento chose Erica. Melissa (to me) was out of my league. There was no way I should be able to have sex with a chick like this. She could easily command $100US / lap dance in Vegas. Life is good. But I'm famished after that session which was 150K (prices raised recently due to new management)
Argento got a recomendation from one of the sisters to have lunch at Lido Bar, located at the corner of Palma and Chile. This place was a gem. A large diner with a curved, wrap-around counter where the servers dressed in 50's-era orange uniforms. Argento and I both had the pescado deliciosa, a fish dish in a creamy salsa blanco. Along with salad, home-made bread, and water the bill came to 112K. It was excellent.
After lunch we wandered about town for a spell before retiring for a nap during the mid-day heat. Refreshed by our naps, we proceeded to check out the various privados along OLeary but were disapointed (chicas not acceptable, no response, etc. We eventually made our way to Gira Producciones (an El Alamo favorite) on 1241 14 de Mayo and BINGO! 4 chicas pesented and 2 stunners were observed (and selected for 100K / hour) My gal, Johana, was a 19 year old flacita that could pass for a sophmore UCLA cheerleader while Argento selected Samantha, a 20 year old morena that albeit inexperienced (both chicas had started only a month ago) left him with a smile on his face.
Upon walking back to the hotel we stopped at an outdoor resturant on the 1100 block of 14 de Mayo for grilled meat. 2.5 K / skewer. We took the food out and dined at an ajacent park while comparing notes on our chicas. And solving the world's problems. We had originally planned on visiting Villa Morra (an affluent area with lots of outdoor restuarants) but alas we decided to get a few drinks at La Choperia Del Puerto (near our hotel) to listen to some live music and chill. After all, mongering can wear you down!
Hasta Manana amigos!
Great Reports Tequila Tim, thank you and keep em coming.
Exon
Member #3320
11-18-09, 18:03
Great informative reports T. M. Thanks.
We are looking forward to the new ones.
Tequila Tim,
Here are a few more privados you might want to check out.
Cerro Cora 217
Cerro Cora 462
Azara 905 Apt A I think Name is Valkaris.
Keep in mind that the hottest chicks are usually busy when you arrive. You are seeing the leftovers.
Tequila Tim
11-19-09, 01:48
We decided to change it up a little today. We hired Jorge (our cab driver to Babilonia yesterday) for a half day to show us around at a rate of 50K / hour. Jorge is a native Paraguayan who lived in New York City for 10 years and speaks fluent english. I've got his contact info for anyone who would like to use his services while in Asuncion (airport transfers, privado runs, etc.
We started our tour by passing by the usual sites like government buildings, the port area, and interesting sites downtown. We next proceeded to a poor area along the river, Chacarita, I believe. As in Rio, where the favela dwellers have the best views of the city but live in squalor, the poor in Asuncion have the refreshing breezes of the river to compliment thier rather dismal conditions. To contrast this part of Asuncion we next went to the affluent area known as Villa Morra. We stopped in the mall for a some cold drinks and the only thing I could say is that if the soccor matches were not being shown on the TV's in the food court I might of thought I was in an upscale US mall. Quite a contrast, typical in latin america but I think more extreme here in Asuncion.
We next left the city to visit some of the areas near the river. Argento was determined to have a local fish in a simple resturant and Jorge was able to find a resturant called La Dona in an area known as Zevallos Zue. This place was definitely off the beaten path. All I can remember is that after passing the militay prison we turned off onto a dirt road and proceeded to the river. There, right at the water's edge was a small building with a covered patio and 2 tables. We each ordered a local fish stew which contained a gererous portion of a premium fish called suribi and a huge bottle of ice-cold aqua con gas. It was quite good (62k total) but what made the experience was the view of the river and the nice breeze from it.
We returned after lunch but took time to pass by some more sites like the Botanical gardens, a Recoleta-like cemetary, and several colonial churches.
After the afternoon tour we decided to have dinner at a place the sisters recomended, Restaurante Bolsi on Estrella 399. The main dining room is on your left as you enter and the place is nicely decored, probably one of the fancier resturants in the downtown area. The food was good, not earth shattering but a good value at 142K which included 2 soups, one chicken entre, one rabbit entry (which Argento said was excellent) copa de vino, beer, and water. This is a good restaurant if you'd like a nice, extended dinner. The AC was cranked, food was presented with a touch of elegance, and the service was unrushed by a dignified corps of tuxedoed waiters.
After dinner we decided to visit Arena Cafe (Brasilia y Siria) a place we had little info on other than it could be a good place to mingle with some non-pros. The place was absolutely empty when we arrived although it seemed like a good middle age lounge / club when things get started around mid-night (a fact we found out later) Although the trip to Arena Cafe was a bust, we walked around this neighborhood and both agreed it would be a good place for a long term stay. Lots of lively resturants and upscale housing along Av. Brazilia.
On the way back to downtown we asked the cabbie to take us to Cerra Cora 462 (another El Alamo favorite) We rang and a cute morena answered the door and said they closed at 9PM. I will swing by here tomorrow. As we walked back towards our hotel along Calle Palma we encountered several cute streetwalkers (and a couple of trolls) Prices quoted varied between 100K and 150K per hora. Argento at this time reminded me that he was determined to grab a SW tonight just to mix things up but will wait until we're closer to home before he finds Miss Right for the Night. I decided to head back up to Gira Producciones since they're open 24 hrs. (as is Deseos) and grabbed a taxi. Evil was on my mind. A dupla with Johana and Samantha (the girls we did last night) Johana wasn't available but Samantha was. I really didn't sense any onda with the other two in the line-up so I spent a pleasurable hour with Samantha who also gives any excellent massage BTY. A nice way to wrap up the day. Since my cohort is at this moment doing devious deeds in his room I'm chilling with a glass of nice sipping rum on ice while writing up the lastest news.
Buenos Noches Amigos
Can you give us all a price & quality difference between Paraguayan and Argentine Chica's.
I think most of us would agree that Paraguayan's are better at sexo than the Argentine's. But I'm talking about age, looks, and pricing, plus service.
Exon
Tequila Tim
11-19-09, 11:04
Can you give us all a price & quality difference between Paraguayan and Argentine Chica's.
I think most of us would agree that Paraguayan's are better at sexo than the Argentine's. But I'm talking about age, looks, and pricing, plus service.
ExonExon,
We've only started getting the lowdown on the chica scene here but in general, a privado girl here is $US 20-25/ hour (about 1/2 the cost of BA) and the line-ups comparable to say a 1707 santa Fe in terms of quality. The inhouse facilities have been adequate in the privados we've visited thus far. The girls tend to be younger, usually 18-25 or so. The service has been superb, but in a sweet, accommodating way. IMHO, there are fewer "tigers" here but it could be that I haven't found them yet.
Tequila Tim
11-19-09, 11:09
All seems great! Are you guys moving there?Not really contemplating it, but this place sure is a nice contrast to the hustle and bustle of BA. The weather is mucho calor now but would ideal from May until September. And the people here are wonderful, always going out of thier way to help us.
Can you give us all a price & quality difference between Paraguayan and Argentine Chica's.
I think most of us would agree that Paraguayan's are better at sexo than the Argentine's. But I'm talking about age, looks, and pricing, plus service.
ExonExon,
I hate to say it but an action guy like you would go nuts i.e. stir crazy in Asuncion. Asuncion is sort of like a lazy Mexican city of yesteryear, albeit with much more attractive women.
Exon,
I hate to say it but an action guy like you would go nuts I. E. Stir crazy in Asuncion. Asuncion is sort of like a lazy Mexican city of yesteryear, albeit with much more attractive women.Hola Peter,
I'm going to give some serrious thought to a side trip up there next winter, June or July.
Miss you in be. A. Brother.
Exon
I had a visa trip here a couple of years ago and stayed in the same hotel as you guys, a good place. Round the corner in Estrella is a great place for boots and shoes, well worth a look. The little old lady in there had some made for measure for me, ready within 3 days. I loved the Lido Bar for lunch, but my favourite restaurant for dinner was the Taberna Española. Very recommended. Close to the hotel, excellent service, and the best food I found in the city.
Tequila Tim
11-19-09, 22:17
I had a visa trip here a couple of years ago and stayed in the same hotel as you guys, a good place. Round the corner in Estrella is a great place for boots and shoes, well worth a look. The little old lady in there had some made for measure for me, ready within 3 days. I loved the Lido Bar for lunch, but my favourite restaurant for dinner was the Taberna Española. Very recommended. Close to the hotel, excellent service, and the best food I found in the city.Thanks for the tips Steve C, but unfortunately we're pulling out early tomorrow. I will take note of your suggestions however.
Thanks,
TT
Tequila Tim
11-19-09, 22:47
At breakfast this morning I was able to extract the details of Argento's encounters with the streetwalkers of Asuncion last night. As reported earier, we had parted ways downtown, me to a privado and Argento to find an older (30ish) gal near our hotel. Argento said that it was easy to find a SW along Av. Colon near the intersection with Calle Estrella. He found a 30-something gal with a nice body and decided to do the deed in a near-by short-term transitorio. The gal quoted 100K and Argento said even that was negociable. The short-term hotel was 25K / hr. The SW scene is a tempting option here, some are real lookers. I guess a strategy one can use if you encounter a sweetie distant from your hotel is just take her to a short-term hotel (which are probably numerous in the downtown area)
The first order of buisness today was to return to Cerra Cora 492. We arrived around 11AM and BINGO! Five chica presented (all doable) A chica named Analia answered the door and I knew immediately that Argento was staying. Analia had "presence". An Amazonian goddess with a gorgeous smile. Argento said later that she was the best of the trip thus far. I chose Ingrid, a 20 year old girl-next-door type with a cute face, flawless skin, and a gorgeous set of ta-ta's. 120K / hr and money well spent. This place was the most upscale of the privados thus far. The waiting area was pleasant and the rooms immaculate and nicely decored.
After our sessions we wandered down to Na Eustaquia again for some Chipas and Enpanadas. We sat outside and took our time watching all the chicas pass by. The Tourism office was across the street 468 Palma so we walked over to get some maps and brochures. After a little shopping at Unicentro (a department store on the corner of Palma and 15 de Agosto) we eventually returned to the hotel for some down time. Unicentro has just about anything you're looking for that you forgot on your trip and a clearence area on the bottom floor where there were some real bargains on clothes.
After relaxing for a spell at the hotel we decided to stay close since Argento is trying to line up a TLN with his girl this morning and needed to be by the hotel phone. We headed over to Choperia del Puerto across the street from the hotel and really gorged on brochecitos, chipa guasu, and a large picada chorizo (a platter of various sausages) With beer, sangria (quite good) and water the bill came to 96K. Haven't had a bad meal here yet.
Well, it's showtime. One last bullet to fire and I have to get going because of an early wake up call tomorrow. I'll post a final follow up when I get back to BA tomorrow.
Cheers!
Tim,
Your reports are absolutely superb. Great detail and well written.
Thank you,
Shane
Just spent the working week with Tequila Tim in Asuncion Paraguay. TT planned it out a few months back when he was last in Bs As and I went as his wingman. Day to day details have been posted by TT daily and I thought I should add some comment on the scene.
The airport is 1/2 hour up the river from the city. Fare into downtown is 90,000 Guarani which is about U$19. Fixed or by meter it is about the same. Not one instance of price gouging foreigners. All the people we encountered were open, friendly and utterly lacked guile. This is a first for me in South America. We never felt ourselves at any risk the 5 days.
As members know, I have a penchant for the Peruanas from the Amazonas. Copper-skinned, with thin, well proportioned bodies and a distinct facial type. The girls in Asuncion fall into 3 types. The Amazona, the typical Argentine type and the light skinned Guarani blood girl who has normally bleached her hair. For me it was a paradise. The Amazonas, and that's all I had, were wonderful. Friendly, GFE and interested in sex per se. All were very amateurish, no hardened or rapacious types.
Weather. Now that's another thing. Too hot for the both of us, especially in the afternoon. Around 38c or 100 F. And high humidity. I will return but for me it is a May - September trip. Good airconditioning everywhere so that is the plus.
Food was outstandingly great. I ate exclusively local fare and it was great. My guess it could get monotonous but we were not there long enough for that type of reaction.
Cost. Not including airfare. You would have change out of U$100 for 2 chicas a day, a 4 star hotel, (Asuncion Palace Hotel) food and booze. Pretty hard to top that.
Will I repeat. In a heartbeat. Planning for next Argentine winter as I write.
Thanks to Tequila Tim for his planning and execution. We had a great time together and if the opportunity comes again, we would certainly repeat as each other's wingman.
Argento
Excellent report gentlemen.
(I feel like a pussy always asking tourist and non pro questions. But you guys already have covered the other stuff 5 star)
1, Was the dialect of Spanish understandable? Where you able to communicate with little problems?
2, Alamo makes analogies to Greenwich Con - and for some reason it is difficult for me to reconcile old Mexico with prettier girls and Greenwich Con:) So, this place has captured my imagination. Can you please try to take a stab an describing what your impression of the city and women are from a non-monger perspective.
3, What is the nature and surroundings like? Dry, brown, muddy water or green, lush, clear water.
4, Where the people primitive third world type, or are there pockets of more advanced and well mannered society?
Excellent report gentlemen.
(I feel like a pussy always asking tourist and non pro questions. But you guys already have covered the other stuff 5 star)
1, Was the dialect of Spanish understandable? Where you able to communicate with little problems?
2, Alamo makes analogies to Greenwich Con - and for some reason it is difficult for me to reconcile old Mexico with prettier girls and Greenwich Con:) So, this place has captured my imagination. Can you please try to take a stab an describing what your impression of the city and women are from a non-monger perspective.
3, What is the nature and surroundings like? Dry, brown, muddy water or green, lush, clear water.
4, Where the people primitive third world type, or are there pockets of more advanced and well mannered society?While the city is on Asuncion Bay, there is not really a sense of it being a port city. The one time we were next to it during a simple lunch, it was a slow moving, coffee coloured body of water with mud on the edge.
I know nothing about Greenwich Con so I cannot help.
People were like normal people in South America. No bad attitudes. Pleasant, helpful when asked and always smiling. Really dressed on a par to Bs As. Certainly the nicest I have ever met in a long career in South America. I am sure once you left Asuncion, the people would be very simple rural types. I make that judgement by the Indians peddling artifacts in the street and the lack of sophistication in what they are peddling.
We had no trouble with the language but I am sure in the more rural areas, Guarani would be in more general use.
Lush tropical foliage everywhere. The houses on the way to the airport are very well maintained and even in the poorer areas close by the river, there is obviously pride and effort made to present them well. Really the opposite to the poorer houses of Argentina which in general have no gardens, rubbish dumped in front and the road a mess of potholes. The people maybe poor but they present themselves and their country in a wonderfull way. And that is not my cock talking.
Argento
Iamzonzon.
Asuncion and Paraguay are enigmas. Paraguay is not a poor country. It is lush and fertile. They plant 5 crops every 24 month. They are awash in excess hydroelectric power which they are now selling at market rates. Paraguay is the size of California but has only 6 million people.
Asuncion has two parts. The old town looks like a sleepy Mexican city of yesteryear while the affluent suburbs have state of the art malls. These suburbs would be comparable to wealthy suburbs in Southern California.
As others have mentioned. Things are changing in Paraguay. The corrupt government of the last 60 to 100 years is gone (voted out. Paraguay is a democracy) and the new government is making progress but it will take a long time.
The business people of Paraguay are convinced that Paraguay has a more promising future than Argentina. They might be right.
I have homes in Buenos Aires, Florianopolis and Key West but I prefer living in Asuncion. Asuncion is a special place.
P.S. I just bought a bar here. It is on Mcal Lopez across the street from the Brazalian embassy. Mcal Lopez would remind you of Greenwich Connecticut with mansion after mansion, embassy after embassy (including the USA embassy) and the palace of the President of Paraguay.
The name El Alamo is already taken in Asuncion. We could call our bar Viva Zapata's but that might be politically incorrect. I think we will call it Pepe's Bar and Cantina.
HappyGoLucky
11-20-09, 23:24
Excellent report gentlemen.
1, Was the dialect of Spanish understandable? Where you able to communicate with little problems?
3, What is the nature and surroundings like? Dry, brown, muddy water or green, lush, clear water.
4, Where the people primitive third world type, or are there pockets of more advanced and well mannered society?I found the dialect in Paraguay much softer and smoother than Argentina; plus they don't use the "sh" sound, like "sho" for "yo".
Much of the nature and surroundings of Paraguay are beautiful if you venture out of Asuncion (on 4 wheels) I'll post a couple pictures of a balneario near Capiata, and one of the many rivers in Paraguay (called Villa Florida, about half way to Encarnacion)
There are some very elite, wealthy, and advanced people in Paraguay, including some private clubs which cost tens of thousands PER YEAR to belong to. One of them (the name escapes me) is near the spot where El Alamo intends to open his bar.
Gato Hunter
11-20-09, 23:43
Is there any pot in Paraguay? What are the laws regarding it?
El Alamo,
I will buy a drink at your bar and be happy for it. You are a man ofter my own heart.
Cheers.
Happy go. Very interesting pics. I must admit, I have looked and did not find much info or images on Paraguay. I sort of just said to myself. Keep learning Spanish. Spend a couple more months in Med, Colombia. Probably will hang out on the North Coast of the DR. Then, when my Spanish is at full speed, and I do not need a wing man. Go see the place myself for as long as it takes.
I am looking for many things in 2010. I don't really know what. But, I trust I will recognize it when I see it.
HappyGoLucky
11-21-09, 03:36
Is there any pot in Paraguay? What are the laws regarding it?Check out: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/11/25/paraguay.mexico.marijuana/index.html
ASUNCION, Paraguay (CNN) -- Mexico and Paraguay are the top two marijuana-producing countries in the world, a U. N. Report says.
Specialists say that marijuana grown in Paraguay is in great demand because of its high potency. In addition, the experts say, Paraguayan soil is excellent for growing marijuana and can yield 6,600 pounds for each hectare (2.47 acres) Many plots can yield more than one harvest a year.
Thomaso276
11-22-09, 09:23
Iamzonzon,
Asuncion and Paraguay are enigmas. Paraguay is not a poor country. It is lush and fertile. They plant 5 crops every 24 month. They are awash in excess hydroelectric power which they are now selling at market rates. Paraguay is the size of California but has only 6 million people.
Asuncion has two parts. The old town looks like a sleepy Mexican city of yesteryear while the affluent suburbs have state of the art malls. These suburbs would be comparable to wealthy suburbs in Southern California.
As others have mentioned. Things are changing in Paraguay. The corrupt government of the last 60 to 100 years is gone (voted out. Paraguay is a democracy) and the new government is making progress but it will take a long time.
The business people of Paraguay are convinced that Paraguay has a more promising future than Argentina. They might be right.
I have homes in Buenos Aires, Florianopolis and Key West but I prefer living in Asuncion. Asuncion is a special place.
P. S. I just bought a bar here. It is on Mcal Lopez across the street from the Brazalian embassy. Mcal Lopez would remind you of Greenwich Connecticut with mansion after mansion, embassy after embassy (including the USA embassy) and the palace of the President of Paraguay.
The name El Alamo is already taken in Asuncion. We could call our bar Viva Zapata's but that might be politically incorrect. I think we will call it Pepe's Bar and Cantina.Be careful, I think "pepe" is mex / puerto rican slang for penis.
Be careful, I think "pepe" is mex / puerto rican slang for penis.Thanks Tom,
The new name is Obama's Bar & Cantina
Hola El Alamo,
Had dinner with Tequila Tim last night, he raved about your recomendations and is going back next May, I might join him.
Exon
Amantelondres
11-22-09, 22:38
In recognition of excellent reports on Asuncion, how about naming the bar Tequila Tim?
Member #3320
11-22-09, 23:07
In recognition of excellent reports on Asuncion, how about naming the bar Tequila Tim?I concur with Amantelondres!
Three cheers to Tequila Tim!
I concur with Amantelondres!
Three cheers to Tequila Tim!Another "Aye" vote from me - it's memorable and rather unique for Cono del Sur. I can easily picture myself telling the cabbie, "Lleveme a Tequila Tim."
If you can add a simple Mexican menu, even better. Wouldn't have to be fancy - it would be novel, and that would help too. I know only one Mexican restaurant in Asuncion, the Hacienda de Las Palomas in Villa Morro (close to Shopping Villa Morro) it's quite popular, and in an upscale area. (Well heck, as I remember, most of Mariscal Lopez is quite upscale!
Sincerely hope I get a chance to check it out, soon.
I have been intrigued in going to Paraguay and was talking to a chick from Encarnacion to come with me and kind of be a tour guide. She could care less if I troll outside the sphere.
Anyway she says Paraguay is nice to visit but not to live there. Is that because there is very little economic opportunity to make any kind of living?
She is probably pulling in, pun, about 25K or so in BA. Which I am sure is unlikely in Paraguay. The problem last time for in BA is that the pricing seems now closer to the states and more like NY or Chicago.
The whole point was going to BA was making my money stretch if I wanted to chill for some time.
Anyway I am very interested in trying out this location. Are there similar apartment rental companies orn would it be best like I did in BA to stay hotel first time. I am on my 15th visit to South America so I do have a feel.
I can't get an image is this place like the setting of Treasure of Sierra Madre?
I like the name Tequila Tim's.
Franchise, apparel possibilites.
Member #3320
11-23-09, 03:53
. Are there similar apartment rental companies.
I like the name Tequila Tim's.Tequila Tim,
Please guide us for apartment rental possibilities in Ascuncion. I will like to go for at least 1 month and check it really thoroughly. For 1 month stay, I think a apartment rental would be better.
Tequila Tim
11-23-09, 19:07
In recognition of excellent reports on Asuncion, how about naming the bar Tequila Tim?Thanks for all the nice comments amigos. While not for everybody I feel ASU is definitely a place to put on the mongering map. I checked the copy of "Diario Popular" we had for rentals and didn't find anything, only something near the bus station (probably not the best area) for 400K, didn't say for how long. There were, however, mucho listings for 'masajes especiales", some for as low as $6 US / session!
Anyway she says Paraguay is nice to visit but not to live there. Is that because there is very little economic opportunity to make any kind of living?That is exactly the reason. One of the prime reasons (not the only reason) that I haven't already moved to Paraguay is because my wife (who is Paraguayan) doesn't want to live there - very strong feelings against it.
For the poor in Paraguay, you are doing good if you are making a hundred bucks a month. Unskilled labor is very cheap there and there isn't a lot of need for skilled labor, and if there was, it's very difficult to get the training to begin with.
For people with money (that can mean anyone with, say, $2K dollars a month) who aren't worried about going out and partying a lot, Paraguay could be a very nice place to live.
The problem my wife would have living there, even with money, is that she has memories of growing up there and she has a different feeling about her country and fellow countrymen than most of us would have. She still loves her country, but has a sort of love-hate relationship with it.
For the poor in Paraguay, you are doing good if you are making a hundred bucks a month. Unskilled labor is very cheap there.The day before I left the Hotel Asuncion Palace I gave one of the sisters (the owners) a tip for all the staff. Nothing grand. Hey I'm British. The next day I was thanked profusely by every member of staff I saw. I got the impression the wages are pretty low over there.
Member #3320
11-24-09, 00:40
For people with money (that can mean anyone with, say, $2K dollars a month) who aren't worried about going out and partying a lot, Paraguay could be a very nice place to live.El Queso,
Can you please elaborate more on the 2k part. What all 2k can buy in a month! Serious query!
This place gets so many contradictory observations!
Great night life (once you get the inside hook - up) versus Boring.
A high class with growing middle class versus poverty riddled.
Nice girls (wives) versus every girl is punta.
Enigmaguay
Member #3318
11-24-09, 02:05
The day before I left the Hotel Asuncion Palace I gave one of the sisters (the owners) a tip for all the staff. Nothing grand. Hey I'm British. The next day I was thanked profusely by every member of staff I saw. I got the impression the wages are pretty low over there.Very decent of you to show your appreciation to a group of people who don't have / or choose to use their moneymakers to ease their lives. I have a latina friend who would say that that gesture will surely give you a room upgrade somewhere in your post temporal life!
Cheers!
El Queso,
Can you please elaborate more on the 2k part. What all 2k can buy in a month! Serious query!I looked at real estate to rent and to buy in Asuncion. I can't remember if I ever posted anything about it or not, although I did talk to some of the guys about it earlier in the year. So I apologize if I'm repeating something.
I looked only at houses, although I did chance here and there to see some ads about apartments, but never looked at one.
Houses in decent areas can go for anywhere between $400 a month and $1000 a month (of course they go higher, but hey) depending on a number of factors like how many rooms, is there a pool, what part of town, etc.
Taxis are a bit expensive compared to BA. - Tequila Tim has some good examples of pricing in his posts. Buses go everywhere and are fairly cheap, so I've heard (never rode one though). Cars are much more reasonably priced than BA. But I don't remember specific examples.
Restaraunts come in all shapes and sizes. Tequila Tim has some good posts about that. There is also a place (El Paulista, I think it's called) near the corner of Mariscal Lopez and Argentina / San Martin that does pretty decent Brasilian-style churrasco and has chorizos (spicy and regular) that, in my opinion, put almost any I've ever had in BA to shame. There are a few close exceptions here. I think you get out of there for something like 25-30K guarani for all you can eat, or about 6-7 dollars. They have really good lemonade and limeade (probably a number of other juices as well) that they serve in a pitcher.
Food is cheaper there. The big grocery stores are comparable to something like the big Carrefours or Discos here in BA.
A common maid's salary, as an example of the low unskilled labor costs, are something like $400K-$600K guarani, or about $80-$100 a month. That would be live-in, with meals provided. Probably not much else.
Overall, things are cheaper than here, and I estimated that one could live there about 2/3 to 1/3 as cheap as BA depending on how well one lived.
This place gets so many contradictory observations!
Great night life (once you get the inside hook - up) versus Boring.
A high class with growing middle class versus poverty riddled.
Nice girls (wives) versus every girl is punta.
EnigmaguayIt depends on what you are looking for as to what you will find. There's just about everything there.
The night life is not dead, it's just calm. There are a few clubs and such, but by about 9:00 most of the town is pretty much indoors and probably asleep. You won't ahve the wide range of party venues that you have here. Get to know some locals and you'll probably find local places a little out of town where all the pretty girls go to dance on the weekends and there's no telling what kind of trouble you'll get into, being a foreigner in a place where the women love foreigners.
Paraguay is a growing, changing place. The new president is making some good changes and the people have some hope that they can actually get somewhere. They've basically lived in a country that was ruled by a party that sucked every guarani they could out fo the people, sold off parts of the country to Brasil and practically gave away power to Brasil and Argentina so the rulers could line their pockets.
My wife tells me about a "president" from a decade or more ago (can't remember his name) who used to kidnap young kids and drain their blood in an attempt to restore his youth (not really sure if that's true or just a legend) but the reailty is that they are still finding bodies in mass graves from the suppression of the populace during that time.
Tons of poverty, some affluent places, a little bit of an emerging middle-class, particularly (so I've heard) in Encarnacion.
A country isn't just one thing, particularly here in South America! What gets reported is based on how deep one has been into the culture and what one is searching for when visiting.
My wife tells me about a "president" from a decade or more ago (can't remember his name) who used to kidnap young kids and drain their blood in an attempt to restore his youth (not really sure if that's true or just a legend) but the reailty is that they are still finding bodies in mass graves from the suppression of the populace during that time.The version I heard is less chilling but many Paraguayans probably find it no less reprehensible. Alfredo Stroessner, dictator of Paraguay from 1954 to 1989, DID have a reputation for "popping cherries", and for having his Secret Service grab pretty teenage chicas for his bedroom.
At the time of my last visit (New Years 2005/2006) Stroessner had just bought a nice mansion on Av. Mariscal Lopez - in hopes of coming "home" to die - and, of all things, his son was trying to enter Paraguay politics, as a candidate for (I don't remember what) of the Colorado Party!
Paraguayan politics. Could we please get back to chatting about the chicas of today?
The character of chicas can be generalized from one South American country to another more accurately than other places.
I have a friend who just lived in Medellin Colombia for 3 months - a photographer. He showed me pics of his UNFUCKING BELIEVABLY BEAUTIFUL 20 year old girl friend. I asked a couple of probing questions. 99.999% certain she is a prepago (not that there is anything wrong with that) BUT HE DID NOT KNOW IT!
I have read on the sister board that "every woman in Paraguay is for rent". Conversely, I have heard that some men have found good wives. My question, following Westy's advise on talking about Chicas of today, is this: what is the character of women from Paraguay?
what is the character of women from Paraguay?It's why I talked about some of the political stuff, because it sets the stage for seeing Paraguayan women as they are. Maybe I didn't go far enough in explaining what I meant by bringing that up. It's a complex subject.
Like many Latina women, Paraguayan women are believers in sex. They enjoy sex. They like dick. It's something that is very good for men, to be sure.
Paraguayan men can often be overly-macho pussies in a way. In 1864-70 the Paraguayans fought a war that they started against Brasil, Argentina and Uruguay. They started off pretty strong, but ended up getting their ever-lovin' asses kicked, almost back to the stone age. It is estimated that as many as 90% of the Paraguayan men were killed in that war as they fought on way past when they should have given up.
I've seen the women act more like adults than the men, and I see that as due to a long process of building up the male population again. Imagine how valuable men became when there were so few, and I think they are often treated like special kids, and the women put up with some really perfectly shitty behavior from these guys.
I would say this is more in 'el campo', where I have most of my experience, than the city.
Even in the city, it is very common for the poorer men to send their wives off to work while they make excuses about not able to find work, etc, and lounge around the shack drinking, gambling and womanizing. The women work for very low wages.
There are many women who try to lead a 'proper' life and work their asses to the bones. Women who work like this often look fifty by the time they've reached 30.
I've met "upper class" Paraguayans who look on the "lower class" as slaves. I know of someone who worked as a maid in an "upper class" house in Asuncion who was told by her patrona one day "it's a shame that they abolished slavery. In the old days you would be my slave and everything would be so much simpler. But one day that will come to pass again."
So of course, a lot of Paraguayan women are "for rent." If you could make two, three, four times more money working on your back than you can on your knees scrubbing floors and sidewalks, and you're not necessarily adverse to the idea of sex to begin with - what would you choose?
Many Paraguayan women would love to have a partner who respects them and treats them nicely, and actually provides for them instead of the otherway around. If you are looking for a relationship, there are plenty of Paraguayan women who, even as working girls, would love to be in a situation like that and will become fiercely loyal to someone who provides that.
I'm talking in generalities of course, but based on three years of experience living with and then marrying a Paraguayan, knowing her family both here and in Paraguay, listening to the horrifying stories of how men behave and how women are treated, so on and so forth.
When you ask about what women are like there, there are all kinds really. There are smart women, there are stupid, ignorant women. There are brave women and there are cowards who let their men walk all over them. It's hard not to talk about what women are like there without talking about a little history and politics to go along with it.
And how is the Gringo Effect, generally?
- girls are attracted?
- guys jealous?
- everyone working you for a tip / increased prices?
- is there a strong division from one class to the other?
HappyGoLucky
11-24-09, 19:56
P. S. I just bought a bar here. It is on Mcal Lopez across the street from the Brazalian embassy. Mcal Lopez would remind you of Greenwich Connecticut with mansion after mansion, embassy after embassy (including the USA embassy) and the palace of the President of Paraguay.On the mansions from: http://www.dispatchesfromthevanishingworld.com/dispatch28/printerd28.html
Asuncion's second wave of mansion-building occurred between 1978 and 1982, when the world's largest hydroelectric dam, Itaipu, was being built across the Parana River, which separates Paraguay from Brazil. Financed entirely by Brazil and by multilateral banks, the project pumped around $2 billion into the Paraguayan economy, half of which is "informal" -a thriving trade in contraband whiskey, cigarettes, soybeans, VCRs, P. C. S, counterfeit Rolexes, stolen cars, smuggled Brazilian babies, you name it. Most of the Itaipu money slipped under the table and after a year or two of frenzied untraceable transactions-kickbacks, shakedowns, payoffs, all manner of usury, graft, and carruptela-several thousand garish new villas of prodigious square-footage appeared in Asuncion, especially along the airport road and in the barrio of Villa Mora. The houses were built in an exuberance of styles-Swiss chalet, tropical-alpine kitsch, Neo-Gothic, neo-Niemeyer, neo-Khashoggi, neo-Trump. Their only unifying elements are a satellite dish on the roof and a Mercedes in the driveway. The size and flamboyance of one's mansion depended, of course, on how close one was to the Tyrannosaur, as Stroessner's subjects called him, on how high up one had risen in the hierarchy of corruption that he had institutionalized and was fond of describing as "the price of peace."
Thank you for your answer to this - I had heard some "historical" stuff going back to the War of the Triple Alliance, but I wasn't as familiar with the more-recent sociology. It saddens me. And surprises me a little; for the few Paraguayan men I worked with on my one official visit (and hung out with on a couple of later social visits on my personal tab) were effective, capable, smart, hard workers, and from what I saw they were decent to their subordinates. (Do I lose points for admitting they're in the military?
One story I heard from a fellow norteamericano, who had spent several years in Asuncion, held that the women of Paraguay, after the War of the Triple Alliance, were given "special dispensation" from the Pope to "be especially fruitful, for the sake of the future of Paraguay" (and never mind trying to put a wedlock on the guy who sires your contribution thereto. Wondered if you'd heard anything about that one, especially back in "el campo"?
I have a couple of friends who have had Paraguayan wives. As one of them advised me, "If you treat her nicely - just decently, by USA standards - she's going to feel that you're treating her like a princess. And she'll treat you like a prince, in return!" Unfortunately, he had a break-up with his Paraguayita when they came back to the States. But it was an amicable one; she's doing fine for herself in North Carolina, and not by "court-ordered mooching" if you know what I mean.
My hope is that Fernando Lugo does Paraguay some good. (OTOH, I hope he doesn't manage to wean the women off of hearty, bouncy sex with well-to-do extranjeros.)
It's why I talked about some of the political stuff, because it sets the stage for seeing Paraguayan women as they are. Maybe I didn't go far enough in explaining what I meant by bringing that up. It's a complex subject. When you ask about what women are like there, there are all kinds really. There are smart women, there are stupid, ignorant women. There are brave women and there are cowards who let their men walk all over them. It's hard not to talk about what women are like there without talking about a little history and politics to go along with it.
SORRY! I must have been driving you fuckers crazy with my off topic posts!
Just pulled my head out of my ass and bought a membership to the sister site - international sex guide. WOW I get it. Tons of info.
And how is the Gringo Effect, generally?
- girls are attracted?
- guys jealous?Gringo effect works pretty well. Girls are attracted. This might be more true in 'el campo' than in the city.
I don't know about jealous guys, I'm sure there would be some. However, Paraguayans for the most part like to avoid violence, although there are a crazy few. Guys who are about to lose their cash cow might get a bit bent out of shape, but many younger single girls aren't yet in that situation.
- everyone working you for a tip / increased prices?Not really. I found doing business with Paraguayans quite pleasant, particularly compared to most interactions on that level I've had with Argentinos.
One thing that's a lot better in Argentina than in Paraguay are the car windshield washers, though. They are very persistent and often will wash your window whether or not you want it, and then ***** when you don't pay.
A couple times I had been in the shopping mall near Villa Morra and left my car off the get it washed. Shortly after getting it back, all nice and clean, I was accosted by these guys wanting to wash my window with dirty water and rags and had to open my door ina threat to kjeep them from muddying it up!
Another time, again with a clean car, I was in San Lorenzo looking for property and had the same issue. This time I did get out fo the car and they ran off, just out of reach, and started laughing. A good time was had by all.
- is there a strong division from one class to the other?Yeah, there can be.
Thank you for your answer to this - I had heard some "historical" stuff going back to the War of the Triple Alliance, but I wasn't as familiar with the more-recent sociology. It saddens me. And surprises me a little; for the few Paraguayan men I worked with on my one official visit (and hung out with on a couple of later social visits on my personal tab) were effective, capable, smart, hard workers, and from what I saw they were decent to their subordinates. (Do I lose points for admitting they're in the military?There are many good, hard workers in the cities. I don't mean to give the impression that all Paraguayan men are weak and let their women support them. Many men living in the city itself have decent (relatively) jobs and are hard working, concientious folk.
There are those who live close to the city who are different. My sister-in-law has kids with one of these guys - they live in Itagua, about 30 km outside the city. He uses the two kids to blackmail her into doing whatever he wants her to basically.
I think it has a lot to do with ignorance (propogated by dictators for a damned long time) and a lack of change thereof. The further out you get fromt he cities, the more ignorance and "old ways" there are.
As far as the guys you knew being military - nothing really wrong with that nowadays as far as the impact the military has on the country. Those guys will mostly be the best and brightest of the country anyway, outside of well-educated people. They may have even gone to one of the military academies (which isn't exactly cheap for the poor, but not unattainable)
One story I heard from a fellow norteamericano, who had spent several years in Asuncion, held that the women of Paraguay, after the War of the Triple Alliance, were given "special dispensation" from the Pope to "be especially fruitful, for the sake of the future of Paraguay" (and never mind trying to put a wedlock on the guy who sires your contribution thereto. Wondered if you'd heard anything about that one, especially back in "el campo"? Yep, that's the exact same thing I've heard from my wife and her family. It still affects the Paraguayans' attitudes (at least in 'el campo') related to sex, in fact. Paraguayans tend to start having sex REALLY EARLY in many cases. The parents don't necessarily see it as wrong - they're biggest concern now is the result of those unions. That is, another baby to feed. So some of that Pope's special dispensation attitude still exists, albeit a bit warped.
Paraguayans (at least in 'el campo') have a strange mixture of religions. The Catholic church certainly holds sway (although there are enclaves of Protestants - and even Mormons) but they don't let things like the the church's prohibition of contraceptives phase them - that's not the reason they don't use contraception, it's just that it feels so much better without a condom!
As an aside, my wife's grandfather was a witch doctor. He healed people of evil spirits all the time, and was known to be one of the best and most famous "doctors" in the region. He knew all about herbal remedies for removing curses and possessions and all sorts of things like that. He recently died and before he left the world, ordered that all of his journals and writings that contained his spells and recipes to be buried with him so the knowledge that he had carefully guarded in life wouldn't be passed on to those who no longer knew how to deal with it.
I have a couple of friends who have had Paraguayan wives. As one of them advised me, "If you treat her nicely - just decently, by USA standards - she's going to feel that you're treating her like a princess. And she'll treat you like a prince, in return!"I completely agree with that statement. It has been my experience so far. Three years and my wife is always looking for ways to make me comfortable, to take a load off of me while I'm earning money, the whole nine yards. I love it.
It's something my ex could never understand. Neither men nor women should expect to just be treated nicely by their other half just because they're married. To be treated like princesses just because they're married. My wife absolutely dotes on me because I treat her like a woman who I respect and she would do anything for me. And vice versa - after twenty years of living in hell with an idiot American women, I realize now what a real relationship should be like.
Sorry to get back on some politics and extraneous stuff, but I find Paraguay to be a fascinating culture and just wanted to share some tidbits:)
HappyGoLucky
11-25-09, 04:26
- is there a strong division from one class to the other?Take a look at this article; it demonstrates the attitude some of the rich have toward the poor.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/france/090621/paraguay-embassy
"Two former employees of Paraguay's ambassador to France say they were treated like dogs."
Member #3320
11-25-09, 18:19
El Queso & El Alamo,
Most of the queries regarding chicas and lifestyle have been answered. I had the following different queries:-
Aa) How wise is it to invest in property there. How safe is it if you are not living there 12 months a year?
Bb) How safe is opening a bank account in Paraguay and keeping some money there?
Cc) Hows the traffic and car parking charges / facilities from the point of view of keeping a car there. Comparison to BA would be beneficial.
Dd) what kind of price are we discussing for buying a house in a good area with a swimming pool, tennis court and the works?
Thanks in advance.
I really appreciate the kind of information, I have got on Paraguay on this forum. Three cheers to El Queso, El Alamo, Tequilla Tim.
Suerte
El Queso & El Alamo,
Most of the queries regarding chicas and lifestyle have been answered. I had the following different queries:-
Aa) How wise is it to invest in property there. How safe is it if you are not living there 12 months a year?
Bb) How safe is opening a bank account in Paraguay and keeping some money there?
Cc) Hows the traffic and car parking charges / facilities from the point of view of keeping a car there. Comparison to BA would be beneficial.
Dd) what kind of price are we discussing for buying a house in a good area with a swimming pool, tennis court and the works?
Thanks in advance.
I really appreciate the kind of information, I have got on Paraguay on this forum. Three cheers to El Queso, El Alamo, Tequilla Tim.
SuerteTraffic is like a country town. Plenty of street parking down town and the drivers are USA courteous. They even respect pedestrians.
The Paraguayos who were in business were very gung-ho on their economy. All expressed confidence in the future and provided you have confidence in the future of grains, pulses and hydro electricity, why wouldn't you?
Because of the restrictive banking practices in Argentina, western banking per se doesn't exist here. The banks in Argentina make their money on credit card fees. Paraguay banks look and feel more like conventional banks. But who knows? Reports in The Economist on South American banking do not flag Paraguay as bad. Money certainly is easy to change. Their currency has appreciated 50% against the U$ in the past year.
My gut feeling from our visit was that the place had all the vibes of being in the ascendant rather than like Argentina, being in the descendant. TT and I are looking at a business proposition as I write. I think it has a great future.
Argento
Both Argentina and Paraguay have sordid histories. Paraguay has a legacy of brutal dictators I. E. Stroessner etc while Argentina has Peron who instituted policies (ridiculous labor laws, empowering worthless unions) which guarantee Argentina's slow, perpetual decline.
Both countries have immense intrinsic wealth but I have to agree with Argento. Paraguay will prove to be the racehorse and Argentina will morph more and more into a donkey
P.S. I forgot to mention Argentina's most famous legacy. The refusal to repay debt. Over half a century ago the Paris Club (United States, France. Germany, Great Britain and Japan) was formed to force Argentna to honor its debt. As we sit here today, nothing has changed. Argentina is still an outcast in the world economic community.
Paraguay, on the other hand, has no such legacy and Paraguays debt rating was recently upgraded.
El Queso & El Alamo,
Aa) How wise is it to invest in property there. How safe is it if you are not living there 12 months a year?Not sure about that. My sense is that it probably wouldn't be a problem if you are located in a safe neighborhood, but even in the States I would worry about someone breaking into my house if Iw as away for long periods of time.
As far as worried about losing the land itself because of government confiscation because you're a foreigner - probably next to nothing, unless you are talking a big estancia in 'el campo.'
With the latter, there have been some noises about returning large tracts of land to the "people" where absentee owners are not using the land. In fact, most of these that I've heard about are really questionable as to ownership to begin with. Apparently there are foreigners (including not a few brasileiros) that acquired their land in very a questionable manner and possibly don't even have a title to it.
I think for about anything you would think about, there wouldn't be any problems.
Bb) How safe is opening a bank account in Paraguay and keeping some money there?I have never heard of any banking problems related to the banks there. There may be some issues getting money into the country, a nd I don't know if a foreigner can get a bank account there easily, although a real estate contact I had there didn't seem to think it would be a problem.
Dd) what kind of price are we discussing for buying a house in a good area with a swimming pool, tennis court and the works?Roughly between $50K-120K dollars, depending on size, exact location, condition, etc.
Although, I don't know about a tennis court, at least not in the city. May not be enough room for all that. Build something outside of the city and I bet you can do pretty much what you want.
One property that I seriously considered was downtown, near the military police headquarters. It was a three story building, on a corner, attached to other building. Two stories high with a grill on the roof. It had an open atrium, with the bedrooms actually opening below on the first floor directly into the space. High ceilings, a good amount of space. Roughly 200 sq mtrs. The asking price was $45K.
It needed to be fixed up quite a bit. New paint, repair wood molding. Beautiful tiled floors that needed to be restored. New windows. I wanted to close in the atrium above to seal the house. Big kitchen. Friendly neighborhood. Estimates for all the work - $8K dollars. I figured double that just to make sure.
Another house I looked at near Villa Morra was about 150 sq mtrs, pool, wall around the house. Reasonable quality construction. Price was about $100K dollars, and mostly because of being in Villa Morra, because I saw a couple of similar houses outside the city for around $70K.
I looked at some houses around $20K dollars. Not what I would want to live in, but not terrible. 1-2 bedroom houses in neighborhoods with dirt roads, that kind of thing.
As both Argento and El Alamo comment, I think that Paraguay, if it can keep the Colorado party out of its government as much as possible, is going to do better and better over the next 5-10 years. It really ahs nowhere but up to go.
I've said this before, I think of Paraguay as the American "Wild West" to a certain extent. Not as far as outlaw-ness goes, but as far as the opportunities with a minimum of bureaucratic red tape to go through to do many things.
Member #3320
11-25-09, 21:41
Not sure about that. My sense is that it probably wouldn't be a problem if you are located in a safe neighborhood, but even in the States I would worry about someone breaking into my house if Iw as away for long periods of time.I agree with you totally. It does not make sense to buy anything in any part of the world and leave it empty for long periods. I guess it makes sense to simply rent if at all!
HappyGoLucky
11-27-09, 00:17
On banks and residency from: http://www.paraguay-business.com/2008/07/
1. When applying for official residence, it is a requirement (unless you own property) that you deposit US$ 5000 or equivalent in an account in your name at a Paraguayan bank.
2. If you want to hold Guarani (PYG) as an investment, you will need a bank account in Paraguay, as banks in other countries do not offer accounts in Paraguayan currency.
In either of these cases, it is possible for a foreigner to open an account in a Paraguayan bank, but it is difficult. The main obstacle is guidance sent out a few years ago by the Paraguayan Central Bank which specifically prohibits the local banks from opening accounts for persons who do not have a Paraguayan cedula.
The only bank we have found that has a solution to this problem is the Banco Nacional de Fomento, a state-owned bank. They will open a type of savings account called a Caja de Ahorro for non-residents. To open the account you will need to show up in person at their head office equipped with a bank reference and a copy of your passport. You will need to speak some Spanish, and you will need to supply a local address in Paraguay. It is not possible to open accounts in advance by correspondence.
Excellent research HappyGo.
You guys are the most intelligent, organized, and horny old goats on Planet Earth:)
They should put the members of ArgentianPrivate in change of the USA Fed. Remember what Captain Tony (Key West Mayor) said "All you need is a strong sex drive.
Gato Hunter
11-27-09, 12:46
What about Encarnación?
One of my favoritas is from there. We were talking last night about Paraguay. She told me that there was a lot of chica's there.
Granted she did tell me it was much more rural than Asuncion.
She was looking at airfare last night on my computer. She would fly to Posadas and then have an hour or so drive to her family's house in Paraguay.
Member #3320
11-27-09, 14:19
On banks and residency from: http://www.paraguay-business.com/2008/07/
1. When applying for official residence, it is a requirement (unless you own property) that you deposit US$ 5000 or equivalent in an account in your name at a Paraguayan bank.
2. If you want to hold Guarani (PYG) as an investment, you will need a bank account in Paraguay, as banks in other countries do not offer accounts in Paraguayan currency.
In either of these cases, it is possible for a foreigner to open an account in a Paraguayan bank, but it is difficult. The main obstacle is guidance sent out a few years ago by the Paraguayan Central Bank which specifically prohibits the local banks from opening accounts for persons who do not have a Paraguayan cedula.
The only bank we have found that has a solution to this problem is the Banco Nacional de Fomento, a state-owned bank. They will open a type of savings account called a Caja de Ahorro for non-residents. To open the account you will need to show up in person at their head office equipped with a bank reference and a copy of your passport. You will need to speak some Spanish, and you will need to supply a local address in Paraguay. It is not possible to open accounts in advance by correspondence.Happy go lucky!
Thanks man!
Excellent work!
Any information on Paraguayan residency?
Tequila Tim
09-09-10, 00:16
Hey Gang,
Passed by the new El Alamo here in Asuncion. The place is looking good!
Outstanding talent at the apartments once again.
Cheers,
Tequila Tim
Oh, man! I wish I could have come down there with you, this trip.
Hey Gang,
Passed by the new El Alamo here in Asuncion. The place is looking good!
Outstanding talent at the apartments once again.
Cheers,
Tequila Tim
Here is another picture of El Alamo, Asunción, PY. Too bad the construction dumpster is in the way.
Tequila Tim and I got the grand tour yesterday. The renovation is coming along nicely. The expected opening day is in the end of this month. It will be a great place to hang out in my next visit.
My first chica in the mother country was a pretty 18 year old blonde with big tits. Life is good.
Jaimito Cartero
09-09-10, 15:48
I should be in ASU at the end of the month, so will be happy to give a first hand report.
Can you supply the address of El Alamo please.
I'll be staying in Asu for 2 months at the end of the year.
My first chica in the mother country was a pretty 18 year old blonde with big tits. Life is good.Sportsman,
Did that 18 year old blonde go by the name of Lorena? Lorena used to work at Cerro Cora 462. Green eyes, bubble butt, 18 years old, big tits, a playboy bunny in anybodies book.
And the best part is that an hour with this babe will set you back $20 dollares.
Sportsman,
Did that 18 year old blonde go by the name of Lorena? Lorena used to work at Cerro Cora 462. Green eyes, bubble butt, 18 years old, big tits, a playboy bunny in anybodies book.
And the best part is that an hour with this babe will set you back $20 dollares.Yeap, Lorena, that's my girl. She is still at Cerro Cora 462.
The second girl I had at that place was Vanessa, a 20 year old tall (~170 cm) slim, long black hair morracha with a model look and body. Little bubble butt and loves to ride on top. It's good to be the king.
Well, I'm back in Asuncion. No Fox News here so I'm off the political stuff.
El Alamo is open but there is a catch. Because of the location and visibility of El Alamo we were immediately slapped with a trademark infringement suit. Apparently the name El Alamo esta registrado en Paraguay. No problem, we will either keep the name El Alamo or change it to Al Alemo.
Anyway, we are restricted to being open only on Saturday until we agree to a solution to the name. Our advertisement is directed towards girls. Free drinks. We push the hard stuff. We want 300 totally plastered college girls. The first Saturday, with a ratio of girls to guys of about 5 to 1, I was asked by several girls to continue the party elsewhere. Unfortuneately, my girlfriend runs the bar and worse still the girls complained to my girlfriend that I wouldn't go home with them.
Needless to say, I was banned from El Alamo / Al Alemo the 2nd Saturday we were open. Apparently there were about 300 drunker than a skunk college girls and about 15 guys. It goes without saying all the guys scored.
This Saturday is our third night open. I have approval to stay until about 10PM - Short leash syndrome. My guess is that there will be about 300 intoxicated chicks looking to get laid. Probably more guys this Saturday but if you can't get laid in El Alamo / Al Alemo. You can't get laid anywhere.
Jaimito Cartero
10-21-10, 13:09
Too bad you didn't have an opening announcement. I asked Rock about the opening date, but never heard back from him.
I walked by a business called "El Alamo" in the centro area a few weeks ago. Not a bar of any type.
Too bad you didn't have an opening announcement. I asked Rock about the opening date, but never heard back from him.
I walked by a business called "El Alamo" in the centro area a few weeks ago. Not a bar of any type. Alamo S. A. Is the group that is trying to force us to change our name. They are a pharmceutical company or cosmetics company with a lot of offices in Asuncion. The one you saw was probably on the 500 or 600 block of 14 de Mayo o 15 de Agosto.
We are going to change El Alamo to Al Elamo as fast as we can. Alamo S. A. obviously thinks we are a chain and value the name El Alamo. Nothing could be farther from the truth. The name doesn't help or hurt. It is just a name. Maybe when they realize we are not willing to pay one centavo for the name, they will back off.
Cmanredhead
10-26-10, 17:52
Well, I'm back in Asuncion. No Fox News here so I'm off the political stuff.
El Alamo is open but there is a catch. Because of the location and visibility of El Alamo we were immediately slapped with a trademark infringement suit. Apparently the name El Alamo esta registrado en Paraguay. No problem, we will either keep the name El Alamo or change it to Al Alemo.
Anyway, we are restricted to being open only on Saturday until we agree to a solution to the name. Our advertisement is directed towards girls. Free drinks. We push the hard stuff. We want 300 totally plastered college girls. The first Saturday, with a ratio of girls to guys of about 5 to 1, I was asked by several girls to continue the party elsewhere. Unfortuneately, my girlfriend runs the bar and worse still the girls complained to my girlfriend that I wouldn't go home with them.
Needless to say, I was banned from El Alamo / Al Alemo the 2nd Saturday we were open. Apparently there were about 300 drunker than a skunk college girls and about 15 guys. It goes without saying all the guys scored.
This Saturday is our third night open. I have approval to stay until about 10PM. Short leash syndrome. My guess is that there will be about 300 intoxicated chicks looking to get laid. Probably more guys this Saturday but if you can't get laid in El Alamo / Al Alemo. You can't get laid anywhere. El Alamo,
I'm planning a trip to Asuncion mid November for a few days. What the address of your bar there? And in what neighborhood? Also recommendations of where to stay? Thanks.
El Alamo,
I'm planning a trip to Asuncion mid November for a few days. What the address of your bar there? And in what neighborhood? Also recommendations of where to stay? Thanks. I'm in Asuncion now but will be going to Florianopolis probably next week. I'm not sure what it is, but these girls in Asuncion just get better and better looking, provided you have nothing against long legs and big tits. If I knew what Asuncion had to offer I would have skipped Buenos Aires all together and went straight to Asuncion. Of course this is coming from someone who is oversexed on testosterone injections.
Al Elamo is at Mcal Lopez 662. It is across the street from the Brazilian Embassy. On the map it is less than 2 blocks from the corner of Peru and Mcal Lopez. The neighborhood is called Ciudad Nuevo by some, San Roque by others and some refer to it is Las Mercedes.
So is the whole mongering community thinking to move northwards due to increasing cost of consumables in Argentina?
So is the whole mongering community thinking to move northwards due to increasing cost of consumables in Argentina?I doubt it as long as there is not enough to do during your non-mongering times
I doubt it as long as there is not enough to do during your non-mongering timesCould not agree more.
Asuncion will never be a destination for a lot of us. #1) speaking Spanish is mandatory. In the few years I have been in Asuncion I have met only a handful of people who speak some English #2) there are no beaches that I know of (maybe some on the river) #3) there are no nightclubs similar to Madahoos or Black and never will be. They tried that. It didn't work. This is because Asuncion is a town of a few million people and the girls do not want to be recognized working in such clubs by their friends, family and neighbors #4) as opposed to Buenos Aires, the downtown of Asuncion is a little run down while some of the suburbs in asuncion are opulent beyond belief and most of the suburbs in asuncion would compare favorably to suburbs in the United States. However, the brothels are downtown and while the downtown is quaint it is not where the money is #5) there are ex pats living in asuncion but not that many and very few of them are Americans #6) the usual tourist doesn't spend enough time in asuncion to figure out the privado scene and #7 through #10) more reasons I can't think of right now.
However, if you want a beautiful town with lush vegetation and an economy on the upswing, a laid back population which is 100% European or a mixture of European and Guarani, lunches for $2 to 3 US dollars, winters with weather like Southern California and summers like Florida, less traffic and noise and, did I forget, untold numbers of privados filled with legitimate hardbodies between 18 and 20 years of age available at a fraction of the prices charged by the over the hill hags in Buenos Aires - this place is hard to beat.
A few years ago the mongerers living in Asuncion made it very clear that they did not want any good reports coming out of Asuncion. They were afraid an influx of tourists would ruin their secret. Prices would go up and the girls would cop an attitude. While this is a concern, I doubt that Asuncion will ever attract enough people to ruin what it has now. And, in fact, a few more foreigners might be a good thing because, for one reason or another, the girls in Asuncion are pretty sick of Parguayan guys and much prefer foreigners.
Could not agree more.
Asuncion will never be a destination for a lot of us.
However, if you want a beautiful town with lush vegetation and an economy on the upswing, a laid back population which is 100% European or a mixture of European and Guarani, lunches for $2 to 3 US dollars, winters with weather like Southern California and summers like Florida, less traffic and noise and, did I forget, untold numbers of privados filled with legitimate hardbodies between 18 and 20 years of age available at a fraction of the prices charged by the over the hill hags in Buenos Aires. This place is hard to beat.
A few years ago the mongerers living in Asuncion made it very clear that they did not want any good reports coming out of Asuncion. They were afraid an influx of tourists would ruin their secret. Prices would go up and the girls would cop an attitude. While this is a concern, I doubt that Asuncion will ever attract enough people to ruin what it has now. And, in fact, a few more foreigners might be a good thing because, for one reason or another, the girls in Asuncion are pretty sick of Parguayan guys and much prefer foreigners. Reminds me of the "informal MILGROUP briefing" I got on my one official Visit to Asuncion, in winter 2004. (Which of course isn't all that wintry to a norteamericano.) My International Office colleagues told me strictly that "what happens in Asuncion STAYS in Asuncion." The next evening we went, with Coronel "V" and Teniente-Coronel "C" of the unit I was training, down to the Choperia del Puerto for dinner and a brace of Bavieras. And finished up with 'Little Westy' getting his first wick-dipping in twenty years. Aiii, que rico!
A gringo who goes on a date with a paraguayita is likely to treat her the way he'd treat his date at home. She isn't used to it; she feels like she's being treated like a princess! And she will treat you, the gringo, like a King when you get her back to your hotel room.
Drat, now I'm missing Paraguay. I wish I were down at El Ciervo Blanco right now, dining on cazuela de surubi and watching the show; and ready to go from there to Al Elamo, where some young lovely would surely be waiting for me. Ah, the dream.
Leryn Franco of Paraguay, javelin thrower in the 2004 and 2008 Olympics, has recently been selected #1 on the list of the 100 hottest athletes of all time.
At one time she reportedly was available in Asuncion for 250,000 guarani ($50 US) an hour or 1,000,000 guarani ($200 US) for TLN. That was before Nike started giving her one million dollars just to show up at sporting events.
The moral is: even the hottest athlete of all time has a hard time competing with the talent level in Paraguay.
Could not agree more.
Dear El Alamo, and other members expert or familiar with Asuncion,
I plan to visit this town in the next future (probably within 2 weeks). Thanks to your indications and to what other members have written in the parallel, worldwide forum, I discovered several websites with links to privados. The most promising, even with a forum, seems to be Asunsex.
Do you have any additional information about all these privados, such as:
- their general condition (is it safe to visit them during the day and evening time? Are the apartments generally decent or is it better to take the girl out to my hotel, maybe for a longer session?)
- the general price rule (is there a relationship between what you pay and what you get or is it just a matter of negotiation's skills or privado's policy?)
- longer sessions: it seems to me that in South America everybody is going for the shorter options (1 hour or 1/2 hour, while in Eastern Europe 1-2 hour sessions are more common. What's your opinion about that? Is there any discount available for longer sessions?
In addition to the above, what's your opinion about freebies' availability? Is it common for European men to score among the locals? (of course we all know that everything depends also to the general look of the foreigner, his pick-up skills and his target, being it a top model or just a human being of female sex. I'm talking in general, so to say) If yes, where would you suggest me to hang out or interact with the locals, and what behaiours are generally accepted / liked?
Thanks again for what you have already written and for future enlightments!
Eusebio.
The escort websites are.
www.hot.com.py which is the best.
www.asunsex.com.py which is good.
www.sexoenparaguay.com which is OK.
www.fuego.com.py which is now posting false photos.
Asuncion is safe, day or night. Much safer than the provincias of Buenos Aires.
The privados range from really good and clean to complete dumps. Much to my surprise, I found that some of the dumps had just as hot chicas as the upscale places.
For 120,000 guaranii an hour ($25 US) the best places, really clean with hot chicks, are.
Cerra Cora 462.
Cerra Cora 217.
Azara 905 Apt A or B.
Azara 1565.
Haren's which is 226 Francia.
Eden which is 495 Azara (150, 000 guaranii an hour)
Babilonia which is Azara 1270.
For more or less dumps with hot chicks.
14 de Mayo 1208.
Ayala Escubio 326 known as Hot girl.
495 Quinta corner with Roma
14 de Mayo 1241 known as Guia Productions. ( this place has a 20 year old hard body that could compete with Leryn Franco) (100,000 guarani -$20 US - but a bargain at any price)
Britannia at Cabellero 903 better than a dump.
Tania Masajes at Yegros 1225 better than a dump.
258 apt B Estados Unidos known as Mariannas. (this place also has a hard body who could compete with Leryn Franco - Natasha is her name)
525 Estados Unidos known as Naomi's.
There are many more that I haven't visited (so many chicks, so little time) as well as independent chicks.
For opulent places. Several light years better than anything in buenos Aires.
La Mansion.
Clase A.
Thai.
Mujeres Chic.
Sensaciones.
These places are in the suburbs and I don't know their street addresses off hand. Prices are 200, 000 guarani ($40 US an hour)
The places that would be open 24 hours are Eden. 903 Cabellero, Guia Productions. 1565 Azara, La Mansion. Clase A, Mariannas, Naomi's, Hot Girl and probably a lot more.
Yes, it is easy to meet chicas on the street. They are fascinated by foreigners. You must speak Spanish. And be sure to tape that US $100 bill or an american flag to your forehead.
In addition there are many street walkers day and night. It is easier to spot them at night. In fact, it is impossible not to notice them. They hang around Palma and 14 de Mayo. In the suburbs they are found at busy intersections.
An easier option is to meet someone you like in a privado and make an arrangement. 500, 000 guaranii (100 dollars) will convince any of them to be with you 24 hours a day. However, I have developed a dim view of this option. Why be stuck with the same chick when you can bedhop. Probably an acceptable option for a few days.
Good luck
P.S. There is a reason Americans are well regarded in Paraguay. After the disastrous Triple Alliance War Argentina tried to destroy Paraguay by demanding huge chunks of land. It was sent to the United States for arbitration. The Argintines were convinced the United States would side with Argentina. Much to their dismay, Rutherford B. Hayes, President of the United States, came down like a ton a bricks in favor of Paraguay. The people of Paraguay may not recognize names like George Washington or Abraham Lincoln, but Rutherford B. Hayes is a national hero.
Member #3320
01-03-11, 16:47
El Alamo, a question.
How much do these girls from the website charge? Say for 1 hour including taxi fares?
Such as girls from www.hot.com.py (which is the best?)
How is the service in comparison to girls from privados?
For example, in BA. I find girls from privados giving better service than girls from boliches.
What is typical rate of streetwalkers in Asuncion especially for a "all-nighter".
Why is it so tough to get a DFK and BBBJ in Asuncion?
Thanks
Captain.
I can tell you have been to Asuncion before.
Almost all the girls on the websites work in privados. The name of the privados where they work is usually included with their photo. The downtown privados usually charge 120,000 guarani - $25 dollars - an hour and the upscale privados in the suburbs charge 200,000 - $40 dollars - an hour.
Take out prices skyrocket. Azara 462 charges 350,000 guarani - $70 dollars - an hour takeout and 1,000,000 guarani - $200 dollars - TLN. La Mansion VIP charges 350,000 an hour takeout and 2,000,000 TLN. Taxi fare included, I think.
There are no clubs or boliches like Madahos or Black. The closest thing to a Madaho or Black would be Arena Cafe but it is nothing like Madaho or Black. There are a few small clubs like Playboy or Playgirl but I haven't heard good reports about them.
Streetwalkers usually try to charge 100,000 to 200,000 an hour and whatever they think they can get for TLN. They will try to take you to some of the nasiest transitorios in the known world. Not recommended.
The success rate with DFK and BBBJ is probably about the same as in Buenos Aires. Most of the clientes in the privados are from Paraguay and they treat the girls like guess what: Prostitutes. Some of the gilrs, but not all, become accustomed to denying DFK and BBBJ because they are sick of these guys. A foreigner should have a much better success rate. Especially with a 20,000 to 50,000 guarani - $4 to $10 dollar - incentive.
The BBBJ has an almost 100% (OK, maybe 80%) success rate, especially with a little incentive. Convincing them to have bareback sex can be more of a challenge.
Glad to see the topic is getting some new discussion. I have mentioned before that I would like to travel here but the one thing I still can't piece together is the accommodations. I usually rent a nice apartment in Puerto Madero or originally started out many years ago when the Hilton was affordable ($112 a night 2003).
I am getting a real feel that the chica scene is great, but I admitedley enjoy the comforts of a nice apartment or neighborhood. When you mention the suburbs is it practical to taxi in every day for the downtown scene?
Can anyone share what is the best option to stay or rent? My last few times in BA I enjoyed the chicas and the city but the pricing was starting to feel a bit like the states.
Thanks in advance for the response.
Newbie question is with their form of currency is there a 100, 000 guarani bill? How do you get to 1, 000, 000?
More interested in the peaceful surrounding part.
I think there is no Hilton BA level hotel, if you want that don't go to ASU
I don't want to appear snobbish, but are there any comfortable nice areas. Clean and comfortable and safe
Paraguay is a wealthy country with immense income from hydroelectric power, agriculture and cattle. Paraguay is larger than California but has only 6 million people. Paraguay suffers from centuries of government corruption. Government corruption is ingrained, debilitating and hard to eradicate.
The wealth of asuncion is in the suburbs. Downtown Asuncion is historically protected. You cannot raze historical buildings and build new structures. As far as I know there are no wealthy residential areas in the Centro of asuncion. Many of the buildings downtown are being renovated. The downtown is quaint but far from being a showcase.
The suburbs immediately surrounding Centro would compare favorably to suburbs in the United States. Some, such as Carmelitas, Villa Morra, Herrea, Las Mercedes etc would blow most suburbs in the united states out of the water.
As you go father away from Centro it may become more rural and less affluent. I don't know. Haven't been there.
As far as slums go, there aren't many in asuncion. The glaring exception would be Chaquerita which is downtown on the River. It is government land filled with squatters. However, in the next few years it will be replaced with a project called Franco Costera, or something like that, and no longer exist.
Asuncion has a lot of hotels which is somewhat of a mystery. Where are all these people coming from. The hotel owners say there is a lot of movement in Asuncion with visitors from South america and Europe.
Some of the midlevel hotels have been reported on this forum. There are a lot of hotels that appear to be luxury hotels. The ones that I know that would be considered higher level would be the Sheraton (bad location, near the airport, far from downtown) Crown Plaza (great location downtown), Granados Park (great location downtown) , Sabe Centre (great location downtown). A lot more appear to be upscale but I haven't been in them.
If you want something peaceful and quiet, close to downtown, in the middle of an affluent suburb, there is the Gran Hotel of Paraguay. Used to be the home of Madame Lynch, the mistress of President Lopez. Covers several acres with tennis courts and swimming pools but is very old style. Downtown is the Aspen Suites which I would take anyday over the Crown Plaza, Sheraton, Granados Park or Sabe Centre.
Getting around is pretty easy by taxi or colectivo. The collectivos are an experience. Most of the buses appear to be rejects from Brazil and the bus drivers seem to be aspiring or retired race car drivers.
The real problem downtown is that there are few hangouts for foreigners (especially hangouts like Madaho or Black) and few first class restaurants. Unless you live in privados things might seem a little quiet.
As far as safety goes, that does not appear to be an issue in Asuncion. I have witnessed a lot of street crime in Buenos Aires I. E. People having their cameras, wallets etc stolen in broad daylight on busy streets. That would be difficult in asuncion. Anyone doing that would be apprehended in a matter of minutes. There is a lot of security and few places to hide.
The highest currency is a 100, 000 guarani, as far as I know.
Asuncion is not for everyone. Either you like it or you don't. However, with the natural wealth of Paraguay and a pretty savvy population, it seems a pretty good bet that Paraguay is on the upswing.
Lueck Hoff
01-04-11, 12:46
Another option might be the Resort and Yacht Club Paraguayo. I know that the socceer teams like Boca Juniors or.
River Plate often go there before the new competition begins. From what I can see from the website it looks like a luxury place with a lot of possibilities for sport, relax and wellness. But I have never been there, so there is no first hand information.
The disadvantage of this place is that it is about 14 km from the center. So taxi fares can be expensive, if someone is.
Travelling alone.
Eusebio.
Thank you so much!
Your information is really interesting and I think will be very useful for me when there.
Maybe I need two weeks just to sample a fraction of the goods available. I'll try my best, even if I'm more into quality experiences than quantity.
I want to try to get at least one girl for free, so I have to interact with nice people and use some seduction. Any suggestion on the places where I could spend some time? Actually I own a business and I am trading several equipments, so I would like to know also whether there is a place where I can meet local businessmen, at least I will have something more to do during the day.
Finally, I tried to locate the privados in the outskirts (for example: la mansion VIP) but failed. Are these places well known by taxi drivers? (I suppose so.). Do you know whether the taxi fare is expensive?
Thanks again!
By the way, I understood that you own a kind of disco or bar in Asuncion. Is it the case?
WorldTravel69
01-05-11, 05:26
This is the Argentina Thread.
Why are you posting Paraguay info here. All posts for Paraguay should be in the www.internationalsexguide.info Thread.
My Chica List for Asuncion are there.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2836-Asuncion-Lists
World traveler is correct. World traveler has compiled a much more extensive list of privados in Asuncion. That is the list I use.
To reach the privados in the suburbs just print off the page for a girl at one of those privados. The taxi driver may know the place or he will use his cell phone and call them for directions. The taxi fare from downtown will be between 15, 000 and 30, 000 guarani (3 to 6 dollars).
For example, La Mansion VIP is in Lambare, about a 15, 000 taxi fare from downtown.
The concept of getting a girl for free is, more or less, an urban myth. You will pay for them one way or another, in both time and money. However, I can't think of a better way to spend some time.
I own a bar in asuncion but I don't run it. It is run by two 19 year old cousins, Carmen and Jessica. If you are interested in young, drop dead gorgeous chicas, mostly students, decked out in expensive clothing, this place has a lot.
I have been banned from the place. Something about what is this old guy doing here with all these young chicks. So I really don't know what the scene is.
The name is Al Elamo at Mcal Lopez 662, next to the Brazilian Embassy near the corner of Peru and Mcal Lopez. Even I have to admit, its a pretty nice place.
As far as I know, it is only open Friday and Saturday night, and doesn´t get busy until late at night.
Punter 127
01-05-11, 10:36
World traveler is correct. World traveler has compiled a much more extensive list of privados in Asuncion. That is the list I use. Why not both list and why not post in both threads, after all this thread has been active since 2008. WT has a very large list but I'm pretty sure El Alamo has personally visited the places on his list. I think both list have value.
WorldTravel69
01-05-11, 13:36
Thanks for the update.
This is what I now Have. I will post it here, because I can not add it to the posted List.
Bars
1. Al Elamo (El Alamo), Mcal Lopez 662 at Peru. Tel: _______. Hours: Fridays and Saturdays only, Late _______.
Lambare
La Mansion VIP _____________, about a 15, 000 taxi fare. __ Chicas. Prices: ___g 30 min, ___g hour. Tel: _______. Hours: ______.
World traveler is correct. World traveler has compiled a much more extensive list of privados in Asuncion. That is the list I use.
To reach the privados in the suburbs just print off the page for a girl at one of those privados. The taxi driver may know the place or he will use his cell phone and call them for directions. The taxi fare from downtown will be between 15, 000 and 30, 000 guarani (3 to 6 dollars).
For example, La Mansion VIP is in Lambare, about a 15, 000 taxi fare from downtown.
The concept of getting a girl for free is, more or less, an urban myth. You will pay for them one way or another, in both time and money. However, I can't think of a better way to spend some time.
I own a bar in asuncion but I don't run it. It is run by two 19 year old cousins, Carmen and Jessica. If you are interested in young, drop dead gorgeous chicas, mostly students, decked out in expensive clothing, this place has a lot.
I have been banned from the place. Something about what is this old guy doing here with all these young chicks. So I really don't know what the scene is.
The name is Al Elamo at Mcal Lopez 662, next to the Brazilian Embassy near the corner of Peru and Mcal Lopez. Even I have to admit, its a pretty nice place.
As far as I know, it is only open Friday and Saturday night, and doesn't get busy until late at night.
Is there any bird hunting in Paraguay and if there is, where and what month is best?
Member #3320
01-05-11, 16:03
Somehow I enjoy discussing Asuncion here more than at ISG.
Though WT is right. Reports should be posted at ISG but I see no harm in posting a duplicate report here as well for the AP community, most of us who know each other well.
Would something 'new' like Indian, Thai, Mexicanen food or something like à burrito or smoothies work?
That type of thing might work in the suburbs. The suburbs already have a lot of US franchises such as McDonalds, Burger Kings, Hooters, TGIF (Fridays) , Pizza Huts, Kilkenny's etc and some upscale malls. The suburbs have a lot of money.
Downtown or Centro has none of those franchises. Downtown has a million little mom and pop restaurantes. Lunches cost 2 or 3 dollars in these places. Not many of them are open for dinner. Centro gets pretty deserted after the sun goes down. Probably much like Microcentro in Buenos Aires.
Centro is pretty interesting during the daytime. Again much like Microcentro in Buenos Aires. Lots of shops, lots of people, lots of small resturantes, lots of traffic. About the only thing to do in Centro at night is checking out the streetwalkers.
P.S. another example would be the supermarkets. The suburbs have a lot of supermarkets, like S6 or Espana, that are huge, new and would put a Walmart or Target to shame. Centro does not have a single large, modern supemercado. Maybe because of lack of space. There are no open spaces in Centro and all the land is historically protected.
Kilkenny like the BA version?
I don't know what the franchise structure of Kilkennys is, but yes, it is bar like Kilkenny's in Buenos Aires, but much more upscale. It is not a ripoff of the name.
Most of the Disco / bars's in Asuncion are home grown. Owned and operated locally. And extremely profitable.
One of the places called Faces was fined $100, 000 US dollars for some safety violation. The owner just laughed. He said he made that in one weekend.
There is a lot of wealth in Paraguay. There also are a lot of people who are just getting by.
This apparent inequality is not the result of out of control capitalism. It is gracias al gobierno. Most of the wealth in Paraguay is somehow connected to the government. The government has used the wealth of Paraguay as a personal piggybank for centuries. The wealth is not concentrated in the hands of greedy entrepreneurs. It is concentrated in those who are or have been in control of the government.
And guess what. These governmental thugs have no intention of sharing their piggybank with the people who are suffering.
So much for a partnership between the private sector and the government.
Where is Killenny and about how far is it from the centre?
WorldTravel69
01-06-11, 14:05
It is funny what you can find on the internet when you Do A Search.
Google maps should show you.
http://www.kilkenny.com.py/
Where is Killenny and about how far is it from the centre?
It is funny what you can find on the internet when you Do A Search.
Google maps should show you.
http://www.kilkenny.com.py/
WorldTravel69,
Here's the best way to illustrate your point:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Kilkenny+in+Asuncion
Thanks,
Jackson
Sorry for asking
I'll expect that you post the same very original and funny link everytime someone asks a question.
Good way to treat customers as well.
WorldTravel69,
Here's the best way to illustrate your point:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Kilkenny+in+Asuncion
Thanks,
JacksonFunny. I've never seen that before. Redondo didn't like that one little bit.
WorldTravel69
01-06-11, 16:48
That helps everyone to learn.
I did provide the info to your question. Right!
Sorry for asking
I'll expect that you post the same very original and funny link everytime someone asks à question.
Good way to treat customers as well
Trampa.
There are a lot of upscale malls in the suburbs. Kilkennys is in a mall called Las Carmelitas. It is off Aveinda Espana about a 30, 000 guarani (6 dollar) taxi from downtown.
It is completely different from Kilkenny's in Buenos Aires. Kilkenny's in Asuncion is very upscale. The neighborhood is very upscale. The girls are dressed to the hilt. They keep the riff-raff out with a huge cover charge.
The reason these girls dress to the hilt is because they are hot and they know it. Also, sex is just fun for them. It is part of the culture. No hang ups. Great for you. Not so great for their boyfriends.
The moral here is - learn to speak Spanish or be sure to have that $100 George Washington taped to your forehead
However, there are a lot, and I mean a lot, of upscale bar / discos in asuncion that most tourists don't know exist.
El Alamo,
Thanks for all the positive posting about Asuncion. I am getting closer to packing after every post. Question for today is if the suburbs are so upscale and seem to be pristine and desirable, are there any options to stay in the suburbs and travel to centro when needed. I am not expecting a row of Ramadas. Marriots, etc but are there any furnished apartments or housing IN or near the the suburbs.
Much thanks
Master J.
Yes, the suburbs have large hotels and small hotels, but they are the suburbs and very spread out. And when I say suburbs I am talking about big homes with lush yards looking like jungles. Not like Palermo or Belgrano in Buenos Aires.
Not everything is within walking distance in the suburbs because there are a lot of suburbs. Once you leave the main streets you might walk blocks before you find a restaurant. You would be pretty isolated. Probably a nice place if you are raising a family or are a hermit.
El Centro is much more interesting. As much as we try to warn people about El Centro -I love El Centro. Relaxing, interesting and enough pussy to satisfy the D Day invasion.
Trampa.
There are a lot of upscale malls in the suburbs. Kilkennys is in a mall called Las Carmelitas. It is off Aveinda Espana about a 30, 000 guarani (6 dollar) taxi from downtown.
It is completely different from Kilkenny's in Buenos Aires. Kilkenny's in Asuncion is very upscale. The neighborhood is very upscale. The girls are dressed to the hilt. They keep the riff-raff out with a huge cover charge.
The reason these girls dress to the hilt is because they are hot and they know it. Also, sex is just fun for them. It is part of the culture. No hang ups. Great for you. Not so great for their boyfriends.
The moral here is. Learn to speak Spanish or be sure to have that $100 George Washington taped to your forehead.
However, there are a lot, and I mean a lot, of upscale bar / discos in asuncion that most tourists don't know exist. Thanks for the report, that was the kind of info I was hoping to get and I am sure to check it out.
If there were seven girls to every guy I would also dress up if I was a girl
Tequila Tim
01-08-11, 02:52
El Alamo,
Thanks for all the positive posting about Asuncion. I am getting closer to packing after every post. Question for today is if the suburbs are so upscale and seem to be pristine and desirable, are there any options to stay in the suburbs and travel to centro when needed. I am not expecting a row of Ramadas. Marriots, etc but are there any furnished apartments or housing IN or near the the suburbs.
Much thanksMaster J,
I've been to Asuncion 3 times in the past year and I've enjoyed it each time. If you're not planning on an extended stay I would recommend staying downtown and taking an occasional trip to the suburbs (especially if you don't have a car). The downtown area is lively and entertaining during the day, that's where you can hop from privado to privado by foot and wander into interesting shops and cafes to catch your breath. The downtown area is lively during the day but without the elbow-to-elbow crowds you encounter in BA. The nightime scene is quiet but not dead. I enjoy Confeteria Bolsi and the Choperia on Colon (see my previous posts for the exact locations) for lazy night extended dinners. In my opinion, it would be much more cost-effective to travel to the suburbs from a downtown base rather than vise-versa. There are numerous good hotels downtown, my favorite being the Asuncion Palace Hotel on Av. Colon (again, see my previous posts). As El Alamo has previously posted, Asuncion is not for action junkies, but if you like a place with honest, humble people with beautiful chicas that can be had for a song you'll enjoy Asuncion.
Good Luck,
TT
El Alamo,
Thanks for all the positive posting about Asuncion. I am getting closer to packing after every post. Question for today is if the suburbs are so upscale and seem to be pristine and desirable, are there any options to stay in the suburbs and travel to centro when needed. I am not expecting a row of Ramadas. Marriots, etc but are there any furnished apartments or housing IN or near the the suburbs.
Much thanksLast time I went to Asuncion, I stayed in Villa Morro at the Hotel Boggiani. This is a little "European pensióand" style hotel on Avenida Argentina, a few blocks south of Avda. Mariscal Lopez. (I think it's on the corner of Calle Campos Cervera.) It wasn't fancy, but clean and comfortable; and they included breakfast for me and my chica. There is a large (for Latin America) supermarket across Avda. Argentina, and a few blocks past the supermarket there are two good-sized shopping centers. There are some good restaurants nearby: the Hacienda de Las Palomas, for Mexican; the Paulista Grill and Aquarela, both of these rodizios; and there are others but I don't recall them at this moment.
You will, however, need to take a cab to the "night spots" from here; at least the night spots I used to visit.
Any chance of a small list of night spots that you used to visit Westy & maybe even a rating of each night spot!
Last time I went to Asuncion, I stayed in Villa Morro at the Hotel Boggiani. This is a little "European pensióand" style hotel on Avenida Argentina, a few blocks south of Avda. Mariscal Lopez. (I think it's on the corner of Calle Campos Cervera.) It wasn't fancy, but clean and comfortable; and they included breakfast for me and my chica. There is a large (for Latin America) supermarket across Avda. Argentina, and a few blocks past the supermarket there are two good-sized shopping centers. There are some good restaurants nearby: the Hacienda de Las Palomas, for Mexican; the Paulista Grill and Aquarela, both of these rodizios; and there are others but I don't recall them at this moment.
You will, however, need to take a cab to the "night spots" from here; at least the night spots I used to visit.
Jaimito Cartero
01-09-11, 01:19
The moral here is. Learn to speak Spanish or be sure to have that $100 George Washington taped to your forehead.
Methinks that you're getting some dumb counterfeiters if you're seeing $100 bills with Washington's face on them. .
Is security an issue with chosing in which hotel to stay?
And I am mainly talking about the risk of stolen cash, laptop and iphone and I pad
Member #3320
01-10-11, 13:55
What would be a good price to pay for Asuncion hotels as discussed in this thread per say todays prices?
Anybody there?
Staying at La mision Wednesday thru Friday.
Let's hook up.
Rick.
In term of value for dosh, security and general conditions I'd recommend the Granados Park. Go check it out!
Gato Hunter
06-22-12, 22:19
AA is doing non stops to mia starting in November I read use miles to get there now. I personaly did not like it over ba at all.
Punter 127
06-22-12, 23:00
The AA service MIA / ASU non stop doesn't start until Nov 15th and will only be 4 days a week, Sun, Mon, Wed, and Fri.
AA will be using B757 on MIA-ASU route, single asile with only 16 business class seats.
WorldTravel69
01-22-17, 15:06
I made a Map from my old List.
Someone on the Paraguay forum said that about 70 percent of the places are closed.
But, when I asked which ones?
I got nothing from him.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1JtzxEej6SFZW2jDL2kXhcD_OehI&ll=-25.298223237989454%2C-57.635509763901894&z=15
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