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I have been reading the forums a lot in preparation for my trip and have noticed a decent amount of people talk about banging some pros without condoms. Its a free world and you can do whatever you like but I do think its a completely unecessary risk and further increases the risk to us fellow mongers who practice safely. My view is that sex without a condom with a pro is careless to the point you are actually looking for something bad to happen to you. If she has done it with you she has done it with many guys and the chances that you are exposed to some disease actually becomes extremely large.
I actually saw a pic of some guy in one of the other forums banging an African girl in the ass w / no condom in Africa. That had to be one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.
Just my 2 cents.
Daddy Rulz
11-30-08, 20:56
It depends on age. If you're 70 years old something besides what you catch from a provider in BsAs is most likely going to kill you. On the other hand if you're 25 I would play a little safer. As for me and mine, we wear the coat.
What's funny to me is how the girls calculate their risk when choosing to use condoms or not. I had one provider refuse to give me a BBBJ once because she said that I was young and probably promiscuous. She probably had an idea that an older man would be safer but it never occured to her that they were young once and how many people they have potentially been with. There are older guys barebacking and mongering internationally and then there are married guys who continue to monger incessantly and might not be fucking their wives at all. They are probably the WORST vectors for these diseases. Then, after I knew her for a couple of weeks, and had shared a couple of bife de chorizos with her and taken her out for a couple of turns of the dance floor she was not only willing to give me a BBBJ but offered BBFS as well. I would say assume that these girls are barebacking multiple mongers and make your decisions about whether to cover up or not accordingly.
and had shared a couple of bife de chorizos with her and taken her out for a couple of turns of the dance floor she was not only willing to give me a BBBJ but offered BBFS as well.I wouldn't be surprised if they toy the idea of getting pregnant from some foreinger and then have a chance of manipulating him, even at the expense of actually having a child. After all, one of the main reasons for women to become escorts is the dream of scaping povertry.
Yeah I agree. I remember when I used to live in NYC and a friend would pick up some girl at a bar or club and a week or 2 later he was banging her w / out one. And he would be like oh well I know her, we've had dinner a bunch of times. I know I am more paranoid than most but fancy dinners doesn't make std's go away last time I checked.
Anyway glad there was some discussion here. I was afraid I was gonna get blasted out of here, haha.
What's funny to me is how the girls calculate their risk when choosing to use condoms or not. I had one provider refuse to give me a BBBJ once because she said that I was young and probably promiscuous. She probably had an idea that an older man would be safer but it never occured to her that they were young once and how many people they have potentially been with. There are older guys barebacking and mongering internationally and then there are married guys who continue to monger incessantly and might not be fucking their wives at all. They are probably the WORST vectors for these diseases. Then, after I knew her for a couple of weeks, and had shared a couple of bife de chorizos with her and taken her out for a couple of turns of the dance floor she was not only willing to give me a BBBJ but offered BBFS as well. I would say assume that these girls are barebacking multiple mongers and make your decisions about whether to cover up or not accordingly.
Rock Harders
12-01-08, 06:06
Mongers,
As you probably already know from reading my posts, I frequently go bareback with most of the pros I do, and just about every single non-pro that I do. The fact of the matter is I would basically rather jerk off than wear a condom during sex. Under certain circumstances I do use condoms with pros but that is mostly in countries other than Argentina (Brasil, Colombia) Even in Rio, when I get a semi or "once in awhile" pro out of Help, I always attempt to bareback her, with about a 9/10 success ratio. In Colombia the pro's are generally pretty hardened and it is just harder to get them to lose the rubber. Even there, I have found some semi-pros that are willing to go bareback.
I have come to the conclusion through my own research that the chances of myself, a circumcised male, contracting HIV through vaginal sex are about as likely as getting eaten by a shark or struck by lightning. I believe that the big push for "sex with condoms" taught in the USA is more about preventing unwanted pregnancies than anything else. There are other diseases, but condoms are not very good at preventing them. Genital Herpes and HPV, for example. I could get the Clap or Syphillis but they are both treatable.
Obviously, I avoid fucking hookers and non pros that I know to be drug users, as this adds to the risk of diseases. I speak fluent Spanish and I generally interview a girl to the point where I can tell if she is a complete degenerate; also, as a young guy I am really picky about which hookers I fuck and my criteria generally leads me to pick younger girls who go to the gym religiously and take great care of themselves and their bodies, which I believe also lowers their chances of being disease ridden.
To this point I have never contracted any sort of STD, have never gotten a hooker pregnant, never had any burning sensation while taking a piss. I have probably fucked somewhere around 70 different hookers and have worn condoms with about 10 of them. In addition, I have fucked many more non-pros than that and I have wore condoms with them probably 10 times also. So it has worked for me so far.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
Marcelo Uribe
12-01-08, 08:30
I'm sorry Rock, but that's the most stupid statement about HIV I've heard in my life.
I'm sorry Rock, but that's the most stupid statement about HIV I've heard in my life.No, it's not a stupid statement. Let's see your reasons for why it is a stupid statement. I completely agree with RH. I'm 56 and I bet I have used a rubber maybe 15 times in my life, and, I have fucked so many broads that no matter who you are, or where you live, I may very well have fucked your mother, your sister and your old, fat auntie!
Greetings everyone,
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Bartonsky, it's your decision.
Thanks,
Jackson
Greetings everyone,
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Bartonsky, it's your decision.
Thanks,
JacksonOops-I forgot this was the critic free zone. Do what you must.
Sounds like you have had some good results. Not sure what to say. It's like they say; it works until its stops working. Personally it just doesn't add that much to the experience to me. The whole reason for me to try a pro is the adventure and excitant of trying something new, something different. All of that completely overshadows any slight loss in sensation. Yeah If I started banging that pro every day for a month I might be tempted but when I am trying someone new each night on vacation I don't miss it. In fact I still think I would prefer it because when I am banging some super hot girl it probably helps me last 3-4x as long as I normally would be able to. That would be waste to be done in a short time after paying good money.
Not sure I agree with you completely on the screening process to help you out. I agree age and drug use are a big factor. However, it's my observation hot pros / non pros get infinitely more attention and therefore bang a lot more guys. The more guys you bang, especially without a condoms the greater chance things will happen.
Mongers,
As you probably already know from reading my posts, I frequently go bareback with most of the pros I do, and just about every single non-pro that I do. The fact of the matter is I would basically rather jerk off than wear a condom during sex. Under certain circumstances I do use condoms with pros but that is mostly in countries other than Argentina (Brasil, Colombia) Even in Rio, when I get a semi or "once in awhile" pro out of Help, I always attempt to bareback her, with about a 9/10 success ratio. In Colombia the pro's are generally pretty hardened and it is just harder to get them to lose the rubber. Even there, I have found some semi-pros that are willing to go bareback.
I have come to the conclusion through my own research that the chances of myself, a circumcised male, contracting HIV through vaginal sex are about as likely as getting eaten by a shark or struck by lightning. I believe that the big push for "sex with condoms" taught in the USA is more about preventing unwanted pregnancies than anything else. There are other diseases, but condoms are not very good at preventing them. Genital Herpes and HPV, for example. I could get the Clap or Syphillis but they are both treatable.
Obviously, I avoid fucking hookers and non pros that I know to be drug users, as this adds to the risk of diseases. I speak fluent Spanish and I generally interview a girl to the point where I can tell if she is a complete degenerate; also, as a young guy I am really picky about which hookers I fuck and my criteria generally leads me to pick younger girls who go to the gym religiously and take great care of themselves and their bodies, which I believe also lowers their chances of being disease ridden.
To this point I have never contracted any sort of STD, have never gotten a hooker pregnant, never had any burning sensation while taking a piss. I have probably fucked somewhere around 70 different hookers and have worn condoms with about 10 of them. In addition, I have fucked many more non-pros than that and I have wore condoms with them probably 10 times also. So it has worked for me so far.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
There are several reasons girls may prefer that we use condoms.
One is the chance of transmisible disease.
Another is the chance of becoming pregant.
If you can convince the girl that you are shooting blanks and that your recent blood tests were negative the condom will probably be history.
I actually saw a pic of some guy in one of the other forums banging an African girl in the ass w / no condom in Africa. That had to be one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.Dumber more for her than for him. It's the "catcher" that runs most of the risk of contracting HIV, not the "pitcher."
And if Rock has been dipping his uncovered wick into 70 or 80 promiscuous women, he is either 1) incredibly lucky; 2) contracted stuff without realizing it, or 3) not being truthful when he says he's never had anything. Heck, something like 40% of the adult population has HPV. There's no way he hasn't been exposed to it, not with those proclivities. And that says nothing about "good girls" or "bad girls."
I hate rubbers myself. But I would hate the clap even more. One of the benefits of a steady squeeze is the ability to stop using the dreaded raincoat.
Banana Rep
12-02-08, 09:30
What's also shocking to me are those people going down on the pros (daty)
What's also shocking to me are those people going down on the pros (daty)And deep French Kissing them, sometimes right in the club, much to the amusement of the Argentinos in view, who are all thinking "Does that guy realize many dicks that girl has had in her mouth today?"
What I find funniest of all is all this is in the " critic free " zone.
Now honestly, who really cares what Rh, an adult, does in his personal life?
There should be an unspoken punter rule " what you do with your dick is your business ".
If I'm afraid of fucking a chica after somebody else barebacked her, I will either.
A) choose a hobby that isn't as risky as putting a thin (breakable, pourous) sheath of latex on my dick and ramming into some chica's dirty ass and vag.
B) Use a rubber with said chica.
C) Find a chica that hasn't been barebacked. (good luck)
D) Be an adult, make my own informed decision, and leave it at that.
Regards,
BM
I am not going to get in huge back and forth. I just thought it was an interesting topic to discuss and I thought I put it in the correct forum. Jackson let me know if this is wrong.
I agree with you that on some level everything comes down to a 'just worry about yourself' mantra. However, like most things in life it usually gets more complicated when you think about the details.
For example up until recently all casinos in the world allowed smoking even in the poker rooms. Imagine sitting at a poker table for hours a day if you don't smoke and having to inhale smoke all day. Well I guess you could say if you don't like smoke then don't play poker at a casino. However, over time the non smoking poker players applied enough pressure to get these rules changed.
Another example would be if a known drug user, child molester, rapist, murderer etc rolled into BA and started banging every pro in town with no condom. Well over time I suspect that the other consumers might start to get worried and take action. Either by driving the guy out of town or convincing none of the girls to go with him and to use condoms.
The first example is real the second one is hypothetical. However, they are both similar messages. When the collective harm done by a minority starts hurting the majority then it does become a problem.
F R E E D O O O O O O O O O O M.
Haha.
Bart
This hysteria about bare back sex kills me. Rock Harders is 100% correct. Unless you have an open sore on your dick you can screw HIV positive chicks forever and never become HIV positive.
That being said, you will probably be Genital Herpes positive and Papilloma virus positive. However, condoms do not help with Genital Herpes. The little herpes viruses go right through your latex condom. I am not so sure about papilloma virus but if 40% of the chicks have papilloma virus you are going to end up being papilloma virus positive whether you use a condom or not.
The idea that you need to use condoms to prevent infection with the HIV virus is complete bullshit. If you do not have open sores on your 14 inch penis (14+ inch penis if you are Jackson or Sidney) you can fuck as many HIV infected girls as you want without a condom and your chance of becoming HIV positive is remote.
However, I don't recommend fucking obviously HIV positive girls, even if your chance of becoming HIV positive is about nill. They are usually skanks.
P.S. A guy who is HIV positive can easily pass the virus to his partner whether it be male or female. I will let others explain why that is.
What I am saying is that hertersexual males without penile lesions, are, as, Rock Harders has said, not a candidates for becomong HIV positive after having bareback sex with knock out gorgeous girls.
Furthermore, some of you may not be aware that Rock Harders is a 4th year Medical Student from Harvard who might be taking out your appendix someday.
Jackson let me know if this is wrong.Hey Bartonsky,
It's your thread: You decide what's appropriate here.
Thanks,
Jackson
TejanoLibre
12-02-08, 23:48
I ONLY practice bareback-anal. That's okay, isn't it?
What's the worst thing that can happen to me?
Get deported to the United States and open up a restaurant in Houston for Argentine mongers?
Wouldn't that be Hell?
I believe that the girls should be worried about catching something ugly from us, not vice-versa!
TL
IMHO, neither deep French kissing nor DATY would carry any risk if we talking about the possibility of catching HIV. To be honest, I did some DATY last year in Japan and was scared like hell since my mouth was kind of bleeding at that time, but it turned out to be OK after I took the test. Reference: http://www.aidsmeds.com/
And deep French Kissing them, sometimes right in the club, much to the amusement of the Argentinos in view, who are all thinking "Does that guy realize many dicks that girl has had in her mouth today?"
I've learned that insertive anal sex is only second to receptive anal sex for the risk of contracting HIV. I am sorry but you'd better to have bareback vaginal rather than bareback anal if you really like to do bareback. The same reference in the my previous post.
I ONLY practice bareback-anal. That's o. K is'nt it?
What's the worst thing that can happen to me?
Get deported to the United States and open up a restaurant in Houston for Argentine mongers?
Would'nt that be Hell?
I believe that the girls should be worried about catching something ugly from us. Not vice-versa!
TL
I have two large sores on the side of my penis. They ooze with pus. But I am certain they are not the result of a sexually transmitted disease, because before I have sex with them, I have an in-depth discussion with every chica I screw.
I'm guessing the sores must just be friction burns from the condomless sex.
TejanoLibre
12-05-08, 21:53
Sorry, but I just had to quote myself because I think that it's really funny!
Of course I know that my favorite past-time is a high risk activity. That's what makes it so damn fun buddy!
Man, I like my chicas like a like my milanesas. Completas!
I ONLY practice bareback-anal. That's okay, isn't it?
What's the worst thing that can happen to me?
Get deported to the United States and open up a restaurant in Houston for Argentine mongers?
Wouldn't that be Hell?
I believe that the girls should be worried about catching something ugly from us, not vice-versa!
TL
Tatshea Travel
12-07-08, 16:03
This hysteria about bare back sex kills me. Rock Harders is 100% correct. Unless you have an open sore on your dick you can screw HIV positive chicks forever and never become HIV positive.
That being said, you will probably be Genital Herpes positive and Papilloma virus positive. However, condoms do not help with Genital Herpes. The little herpes viruses go right through your latex condom. I am not so sure about papilloma virus but if 40% of the chicks have papilloma virus you are going to end up being papilloma virus positive whether you use a condom or not.
The idea that you need to use condoms to prevent infection with the HIV virus is complete bullshit. If you do not have open sores on your 14 inch penis (14+ inch penis if you are Jackson or Sidney) you can fuck as many HIV infected girls as you want without a condom and your chance of becoming HIV positive is remote.
However, I don't recommend fucking obviously HIV positive girls, even if your chance of becoming HIV positive is about nill. They are usually skanks.
P. S. A guy who is HIV positive can easily pass the virus to his partner whether it be male or female. I will let others explain why that is.
What I am saying is that hertersexual males without penile lesions, are, as, Rock Harders has said, not a candidates for becomong HIV positive after having bareback sex with knock out gorgeous girls.
Furthermore, some of you may not be aware that Rock Harders is a 4th year Medical Student from Harvard who might be taking out your appendix someday.I just read a similar post in one of the local forums (foroescorts, I believe). Don't know if it was you who posted but here my question: can it be there is a place where girls do it bareback for an extra pesos?
Yes, there are places where you can lose the condom.
Sometimes you have to pay extra and sometimes not.
By and large, the rates are as follows.
1) If you have a 6 inch dick with at least a 5 inch diameter you will pay roughly 50 pesos extra to lose the condom.
2) If you have a 7 inch dick with at least a 6 inch diameter you will pay roughly 30 pesos extra to lose the condom.
3) If you have an 8 inch dick with at least a 7 inch diameter you will pay roughly 10 pesos extra to lose the condom.
4) If you have at least a 9 inch dick with at least an 8 inch diameter (the John Holmes dick) the girls will pay you to lose the condom.
This explains why Jackson. Sidney, Hunt99, Rock Harders and Exon are legends in Buenos Aires. They have unlimited bareback sex whenever they want and the girls pay them.
Tatshea Travel
12-07-08, 22:05
Mongers,
I made a stop in here at about 3:30am on Wednesday night / Thursday morning after a long absence of several months. There was a impressive selection at this point, and the place was not too crowded with drunken Argentine fools. After about five minutes I spotted Lorena, a chica I have done maybe 10-15 times over the past 3 years but none in the past year or so. On any given night she is probably the hottest girl in Cocodrilo, as she has no real flaws and is now in better physical shape than ever before, 26 years old with nice fake tits and lots of curves. I went up to her and started in with the chamuyo, and she immediately informs me that her price has gone up, to $250 AR. Coincidentally, it was her 26th birthday as well, and I figured it had been a long time and I had a suspicion I could get her to do me bareback, so I took her for the $250 AR, plus the $50 AR barfine. After many years of mongering in here I am quite well known by the owner and all the employees and they gave me a free ride back to my apartment with Lorena in their private vehicle.
Upon arrival to my apartment, Lorena was very impressed with the place (I had moved since the last time we hooked up) and that got things started off on the right foot. She does not drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, or do any drugs so anything I can get her to do is acheived exclusively with chamuyo and offers of extra payment. After some making out and blowjob time (bbbj of course) on the couch watching some porno on Venus (channel 468 on directv) we moved to the bedroom. I bring up the subject of bareback, and ask her how much more she wants for that. She insists that she will not do that because she is not taking birth control pills and she does not want to get pregnant. I talked her out of that saying that I would not bust inside, and therefore she would not get pregnant; then she brought up AIDS, and I convinced her I was a obviously healthy young guy and she did not have to worry about that. I threw out some ridiculous money figures to get her to do it, ($200 USD) but she said if I paid her that she would feel like she was robbing me, so she said her agreed tariff plus whatever tip I wanted to give her would be fine for the bareback full service, as long as I agreed not to cum inside of her.
As such, the bareback action began, and it was great and a nice 25 minute session in several positions, with the big finish coming in doggy with a pull-out cum shot all over her ass and back. Afterward I had her give me a nice long massage (she is in great shape, with serious strength in her hands so gives a great massage) and then it was about 6:30 am so I gave her $350 AR overall (agreed tariff plus $100 AR tip) and she was on her way. I will probably repeat with her quite often now that I have her on the bareback program.
Suerte,
Rock HardersEl Alamo: my comment was after reading this post by Rock Harder. As I understand in Cocodrilo you can get girls who have done bareback fuck with the clientes. I don't doubt Rock Harder healthines, but I'd prefer to know places where chick don't indulge in this practices. Yesterday I talked with some girls in La Lopez and later Sodoma, and all of them assure me they used condom without exception. That was the motive of my question. Thanks, and regards.
Greetings everyone,
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Bartonsky, it's your decision.
Thanks,
JacksonI have read everything I can find on the site and the only term I cannot find a definition for is "cola". I am sure someone can help me out!
BTW - this is a great resource for guys like me.
My hats off to the creators and those who maintain it and of course to all the participants!
I have read everything I can find on the site and the only term I cannot find a definition for is "cola". I am sure someone can help me out!Cola = ass
ComeOnDown
03-30-09, 16:37
I have read everything I can find on the site and the only term I cannot find a definition for is "cola". I am sure someone can help me out!Guiller is right it means ASS, plain and simple - although some asses are not that simple or plain for that matter.
However, be careful, if you hear the word COLA outside of Argentina Private or any adult establishment, it may mean something else. Cola may also mean a queue or if in a restaurant it may mean the beverage (Coca Cola)
TejanoLibre
03-30-09, 17:05
I ONLY practice bareback-anal. That's okay, isn't it?
What's the worst thing that can happen to me?
Get deported to the United States and open up a restaurant in Houston for Argentine mongers?
Wouldn't that be Hell?
I believe that the girls should be worried about catching something ugly from us, not vice-versa!
TLOf the (4) chicas that I was with last week I was able to talk ALL of them into bare-back vaginal without a problem and (2) of them into bare-back anal without a word of protest!
The covered blow-jobs are ridiculous and will not even be discussed at this point!
Now. Of the (4) girls (3) of them are working girls in one way or another so I guess what I'm saying is that all you have to do is ASK and you shall receive!
Batting Order:
1. Well Known Privado Girl (bbv)
2. Hook's (Hooker) (bba)
3. La Madeleine's (Hooker) (bba)
4. My Girlfriend (bbv)
Yes, I WILL REPEAT with ALL of them!
TL.
P. S - I forgot to mention that in the heat of the moment it's a lot easier to talk them into just about anything.
DO NOT ASK. Just Do It! STICK IT IN!
That and a little bit of my LOVE POTION # 9 !!!!!
Yes ! I now have ( 2 ) more converts !
LOVE DROP JUNKIES ! G.H.B to the rescue !
Instant Anal Queens due to the Love Drops !
In G I TRUST !
HairBalderman
03-31-09, 05:00
Of the (4) chicas that I was with last week I was able to talk ALL of them into bare-back vaginal without a problem and (2) of them into bare-back anal without a word of protest!
. DO NOT ASK. Just Do It! STICK IT IN!
That and a little bit of my LOVE POTION # 9!
LOVE DROP JUNKIES! G. H. B to the rescue!
Instant Anal Queens due to the Love Drops!
In G I TRUST!Look, Ramiro, I'll preface by saying that we've never met; though I was in Buenos Aires when you were operating L'Alliance as a restaurant in MicroCentro. I know you only by reputation and your posts here on AP. By all accounts you're a stand up guy. Of the colleagues of mine who patronized you, to a man, not one who's met you has denied your hospitality and conviviality. Here's the problem though.
The above quote demonstrates the untowardness I get from some of your posts. You claim the women you barebacked were all willing to have sex with you without a condom. Indeed, "without a word of protest". And then you proceed to exhort the use of GHB as part of the recipe. You lost me right there, Ramiro. Anybody on this forum who doesn't know what GHB is should pull up the Wiki and read the whole article. Unfortunately I got to see the ravages of the drug in person.
Ramiro, I'll go out on a limb and assume these women took that drug knowingly. Either way, I'll make my point now. The very reason I wear a condom when I monger is because the one thing we can all count on is that STDs are spread at a much higher rate among drug users. To think of not using a condom with known drug users, and then do it again and again puts more than the participants at risk.
Suerte
Marcelo Uribe
03-31-09, 14:50
Hairbalderman, I'm 100% with you.
I assume the ones who support bareback sex with pros in this topic are just joking.
I couldn't think of people being so stupid as to risk their lifes, and so selfish as to risk other lives having sex that way.
Greetings Everyone,
In case anyone is interested, the following is the Forum's official policy regading safe sex complaints:
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Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread (http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5141084). Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However...
In addition, Members may not repeatedly post or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.
In other words, I don't want to hear anymore about the subject except in the Safe Sex Thread (http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5141).
If you want to criticize another member for not following what you consider to be safe sex practices, then send him a PM.
I believe that it does no good to criticize members for not following what other members may consider to be safe sex practices for the following reasons:
1. It's a disincentive for members to contribute.
2. It never serves to change any one's behavior.
3. It almost always leads to arguments.
4. It provides a "cover" for Serial Antagonists to provoke other members.
To address the usual arguments:
1. If a guy wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's his risk and his business.
2. If a girl wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's her risk and her business.
3. If YOU want to protect yourself from either or both of the aforementioned parties, then YOU should use a condom for sex all the time and thus YOU will be protected from the allegedly unsafe sex practices of the other parties.
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Accordingly, I am designating this thread as the official ArgentinaPrivate.com Safe Sex Thread.
Flame On!
Thanks,
Jackson
TejanoLibre
03-31-09, 17:23
Look, Ramiro, I'll preface by saying that we've never met; though I was in Buenos Aires when you were operating L'Alliance as a restaurant in MicroCentro. I know you only by reputation and your posts here on AP. By all accounts you're a stand up guy. Of the colleagues of mine who patronized you, to a man, not one who's met you has denied your hospitality and conviviality. Here's the problem though.
The above quote demonstrates the untowardness I get from some of your posts. You claim the women you barebacked were all willing to have sex with you without a condom. Indeed, "without a word of protest". And then you proceed to exhort the use of GHB as part of the recipe. You lost me right there, Ramiro. Anybody on this forum who doesn't know what GHB is should pull up the Wiki and read the whole article. Unfortunately I got to see the ravages of the drug in person.
Ramiro, I'll go out on a limb and assume these women took that drug knowingly. Either way, I'll make my point now. The very reason I wear a condom when I monger is because the one thing we can all count on is that STDs are spread at a much higher rate among drug users. To think of not using a condom with known drug users, and then do it again and again puts more than the participants at risk.
SuerteUnfortunately I was only able to talk (2) of the girls into TRYING the LOVE DROPS and they did so willingly and with complete and total knowledge of what they were doing or about to do.
Trying the drops before sex and specifically for the enhancement of all feelings during sex does NOT constitute a drug user or addict!
We dropped some drops so we could fuck each other's brains out!
It was their first time but it will not be their last!
I HIGHLY recommend this for ANYONE. I will safely assume that you drop a viagra or two on a regular basis.
Does that not make you a dangerous drug addict / user?
These are working girls that are bored with conventional sex so If I can introduce them to something NEW that makes them enjoy sex again then what is the problem.
Yes, look it up on the various sites.
Try something like ¨sex and ghb ¨or ¨sex and gbl. ¨
It's not even a drug!
It is a naturally occuring substance that can be found in red wine and red meat.
It has a bad rap in the USA but that's not my problem.
Did the drops cause the girls to lose their better judgement and throw away the rubbers?
Absolutely not!
They became so super turned on that they made that decision on their own!
Just ask them.
Oh well, the funniest thing that I have heard all year is when the girl told me that she does NOT get turned-on unless her partner is wearing a rubber!
She and I laughed at that for 5 minutes!
Then I pulled-out and put one on for the hell of it I guess.
Hell, one of the girls wants me to give some drops to her boyfriend so he can satisfy her too!
I would LOVE for you to explain your version of the drops. Your side of the story.
Unless it something ultra personal. I would understand your reasons.
Take Care and enjoy the USA!
R
HairBalderman
04-01-09, 05:18
You win again
Greetings Everyone,
In case anyone is interested, the following is the Forum's official policy regading safe sex complaints:
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Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread (http:/ www. Argentinaprivate. Com / forum / showthread. Php? T=5141084). Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However.
In addition, Members may not repeatedly post or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.
In other words, I don't want to hear anymore about the subject except in the Safe Sex Thread (http:/ www. Argentinaprivate. Com / forum / showthread. Php? T=5141).
If you want to criticize another member for not following what you consider to be safe sex practices, then send him a PM.
I believe that it does no good to criticize members for not following what other members may consider to be safe sex practices for the following reasons:
1. It's a disincentive for members to contribute.
2. It never serves to change any one's behavior.
3. It almost always leads to arguments.
4. It provides a "cover" for Serial Antagonists to provoke other members.
To address the usual arguments:
1. If a guy wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's his risk and his business.
2. If a girl wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's her risk and her business.
3. If YOU want to protect yourself from either or both of the aforementioned parties, then YOU should use a condom for sex all the time and thus YOU will be protected from the allegedly unsafe sex practices of the other parties.
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Accordingly, I am designating this thread as the official ArgentinaPrivate. Com Safe Sex Thread.
Flame On!
Thanks,
JacksonJackson, your taking away all our fun.
Exon
I just got back from a month long trip in SA. 2 weeks after I was back I started to experience intense burning sensation when urinating. I went to the doc and she was convinced I had an STD and put me on some meds.
A week later all my tests come back negative but still burns to urinate. I am now setting up an appt to see a urologist. The burning was probably the most intense pain I have ever experienced in my life.
Anyone ever experience this? Based on my symptoms I was convinced I had something. I hope to god the tests are correct but something still doesn't seem right. What could this be?
Thanks
I just got back from a month long trip in SA. 2 weeks after I was back I started to experience intense burning sensation when urinating. I went to the doc and she was convinced I had an STD and put me on some meds.
A week later all my tests come back negative but still burns to urinate. I am now setting up an appt to see a urologist. The burning was probably the most intense pain I have ever experienced in my life.
Anyone ever experience this? Based on my symptoms I was convinced I had something. I hope to god the tests are correct but something still doesn't seem right. What could this be?
ThanksWhat STDs did they test you for? Unless you described to your doctor all of your SA sexual exploits, it is doubtful they tested for everything. It could be any number of STDs.
You didn't state specifically, but since your are posting in this thread I assume that you weren't wearing a condom.
It could be a urinary tract infection, especially if you were riding bareback in the colita. Although women are much more likely to get a urinary infection from unprotected sex, men are also susceptible. The colon is one of the most germ infested places on Earth.
It could also be something else. I sincerely hope everything turns out ok.
This should serve as a wake up call for all the bareback riders out there. It is not a matter of IF, but WHEN.
No I have never done bareback with a pro. But I did lapse several times on my trip and get BBBJ which I will NEVER do again.
It just seemed so standard once I got to Brazil I just gave in. Which I regret now. Not worth the risk. I have since found out that herpes is the most common STD tranferred through oral. I had no idea that was the case. My doc gave me the info on it.
Anyway I hope its just some other type of infection. But yes, I got tested for everything: herpes, clamydia, gonorea, hep, hiv, symphalis. Forgive the spelling. I got blood, urine and even a swab sample. All negative.
Its weird I have actually found a whole chat board with similar sypmtoms and no idea what it is and all std neg. I hope this goes away. This is not fun.
Bart
This should serve as a wake up call for all the bareback riders out there. It is not a matter of IF, but WHEN.I have fucked every dirty whoare in the world. Bareback. Twice each. And in the ass. I have never had a std. I will never have a std. Fuck off.
Bartonsky has got something and he DID use a rubber. Nuff said.
Just got back from my urologist. He thinks I just got some bacterial infection and it would be the same antibiotics I already took so just have to wait for it to pass.
I am pretty relieved its not an STD. I am gonna get checked in a couple weeks to double check but I feel better about it.
From now on I am just gonna use condoms for every thing. That was just too painful to go through again.
Hey Bartonsky,
If you never did bareback but got BBBJ with a pro it is possible she has a throat infection with viruses or bacteriae resistant to penicillin or other medication. It is an occupational hazzard of these girls.
Ask your doctor if a "espermocultivo con antibiograma" could help (sorry I don't know the english term but basically you masturbate in a small cup, and they will check if your sperm shows a virus infecting it after some time and therefore your urinary tract, the antibiograma will tell them to which medications this virus is resistant) probably they will give you some really strong last generation antibiotic and you will be fine in a week or so.
Years ago a friend of mine (and it's not me BTW) got an infection from a BBBJ of an argie pro, so I know what he had to go through. It seems a BJ is not so harmless.
Good luck man.
I have fucked every dirty whoare in the world. Bareback. Twice each. And in the ass. I have never had a std. I will never have a std. Fuck off.
Bartonsky has got something and he DID use a rubber. Nuff said.You are a fucking moron if you believe that. But hey, I could give a flying fuck what you do and even less of one what happens to you after you do it. So, enjoy.
You are a fucking moron if you believe that. But hey, I could give a flying fuck what you do and even less of one what happens to you after you do it. So, enjoy.No asshole, You DO give a flying fuck what I, and others do, or you wouldn't post your safe sex, self righteous shit. So, like I said, fuck off.
I have been a monger for at least 30 years and most of my encounters have been bareback. The worst thing that happened to me was crabs once about 27 years ago and that wasn't from a working girl!
A friend of mine and fellow monger after screwing basically the same girls caught at least three STD's in the same period. He died of cancer of the oesophagus some three years ago which (in my complete ignorance of medical issues) makes me think that some of us are genetically more or less vulnerable to disease than others.
Rock Harders
04-03-09, 01:22
Mongers,
As one can decipher from my posts, I am a big proponent and practicer of bareback mongering. I've gotten it down to such a science that I haven't had to wear a rubber since last July (and even that was in Medellin) There have been at least 20 different hookers in that timeframe and probably an equal number of non-pros. I have not used a condom with any of them and I have had exactly zero STD infections and exactly zero burning sensations when I take a piss. My guess is a large part of it has to do with being circumcised and avoiding low end drug-using girls. As a young guy who engages in mongering generally only for my own amusement (and because I just enjoy fucking hookers) I am probably more selective than an older guy who hasn't got laid in a year; I usual find hookers who go to the gym and are health conscious.
Whatever it is I am doing, it is working, and I am not going start wearing rubbers anytime soon.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
Mongers,
My guess is a large part of it has to do with being circumcised.
Rock HardersMy guess is that a large part of it has to do with me NOT being circumcised!
Mongers-
My guess is a large part of it has to do with being circumcised and avoiding low end drug-using girls. As a young guy who engages in mongering generally only for my own amusement (and because I just enjoy fucking hookers) I am probably more selective than an older guy who hasn't got laid in a year;
Rock HardersIf thats true that sounds truly amazing. Sounds like you must have a good immune system. However your pt about these young girls you pick are healthy and in good shape seems odd to me.
Maybe you frequent different places but I am not picking up girls at whole foods in Rio. In addition, appearences sometimes have very little correlation to healthiness, unless one is obese and just looks terrible. I have seen Ironman finishers who I would never had guess they could even run a mile. I also have been with girls who look like they work out every day but actually don't work out at all and smoke and drink.
Just out of curiosity Rock. Have you ever had the cold, Flu, allergies, fever in your life? Because if you are banging that many pros without getting anything then it would be unlikely you would ever get any type of illness ever.
I think people just tend to exaggerate in these forums which makes them lose some value overtime.
Best.
Bart
Rock Harders
04-03-09, 02:38
Mongers, Bartoksy, et al,
Many mongers on this forum know me personally and can verify that I am telling the truth. You bring up an interesting point about flu, colds, sore throats, fevers, etc. I have not been sick, except for food poisoning which occurred once in Paraguay and once in Brasil, in almost 10 years. No colds, flu, sore throat or nothing of the sort. Those who know me personally can also verify that I am in extremely good physical shape and I have a very clean diet, with no tobacco or drugs and only minimal alcohol consumption. This probably has something to do with my well-funictioning immune system. But to be honest with you, I really think that it is harder to get STD's (if one is circumcised) from straight vaginal sex than the health establishment would lead you to believe. Also, in my experience, I can get wealth of information about a girl, whether pro or non-pro simply from talking to her in her native language and asking her about her background, habits, where she lives, etc. A girl from the villa with lots of tattoos, bad teeth, and several kids is more likely to have a disease ridden stanky pussy than a girl with excellent personal hygiene, no kids and a gym membership.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
Well Rock if you have not got sick once in ten yrs then I would say that is such an aberration, so highly unusual that it really makes any of your commentary on sex saftey irrelevant.
It would be like Lebron James logging into a youth basketball chatroom and poking fun at the kids that are complaining that they cannot dunk yet and are 16 yrs old becuase Lebron was able to dunk when he was 13. How many Lebron James' are out there?
My point is this is all either fiction or its such a high standard deviation from normal it makes it irrelevant to the conversation.
R. H. I don't agree with you. I have never been concerned about my life style. I smoked up to 4 packs a day, I enjoy my booze, I eat everything I shouldn't, I have had two heart attacks and I'm not circumcised yet I have never had any kind of sexual transmitted disease.
I get my share of colds and flues though never an allergy and I suffer from emphysema due to years of cigarette smoking but I never had any STD's.
I shag my share of pros and none pros and I have found as many nasty smelling pussies on toothless old pros as on young healthy gym freaks. I refuse to fuck a stinking pussy even with a rubber!
Maybe I have been lucky all these years and maybe it has something to do with genetics. I can't tell! But I'm sure of one thing, it has nothing to do with being athletic, keeping a healthy lifestyle or having a circumcised dick!
This description sounds alot like me. I also haven't had a cold or flu in years and I go to the gym regularly, eat very consciously, stay away from alcohol and am extremely selective with the girls I bang (pro and non pro) But I still wouldn't bareback every chica I met, working girl or not.
RH, believe it or not, you could very well be walking around with an std and not even know it. Some std's can just hang around latent in your body for years. My guess is, if you bareback enough girls, you will eventually contract herpes in one form or another (if you don't already have it). It is very common among the general population and working girls in particular and can take years before you ever have any symptoms.
But hey, to each his own.
Regards,
BM
You bring up an interesting point about flu, colds, sore throats, fevers, etc. I have not been sick, except for food poisoning which occurred once in Paraguay and once in Brasil, in almost 10 years. No colds, flu, sore throat or nothing of the sort. Those who know me personally can also verify that I am in extremely good physical shape and I have a very clean diet, with no tobacco or drugs and only minimal alcohol consumption.
Another "safe sex" firestorm. Ha Ha. No, I haven't fucked every dirty whoare in the world twice. But alot of chicas for the past (I am having a deja vu experience-I think I have made this same post before when the passive aggressive safe sex assholes were on a rampage) 38 years. Pros and non pros alike. And like Aqualung, crabs twice, both cases over 20 years ago. Zero stds. As for Bad's remark about carrying something around. Yes, but you ain't carrying around the syph or the clap. Some of the other "little fuckers" maybe. But hey, EVERYBODY eventually carries around something. Its called LIVING! And yes, I am a proponent of regular testing, and get tested at least every six months.
For me, its all about the percentages and what I like. And, I DON'T LIKE RUBBERS. I am convinced that any Joe has a much better chance of getting killed in a taxi or his own car, in any city of the world, on any night, than he does of picking up an std. But, hey, everybody is still getting in taxis! Everybody is still jumping in their cars and riding around. No passive aggressive assholes are admonishing the car drivers! "HEY, YOU FUCKING CAR DRIVERS-WATCH OUT-YOU MIGHT GET KILLED, IN FACT, EVENTUALLY YOU WILL GET KILLED!" Because #1 it ain't true, and #2, even if it were true, why would you want to tell someone they are going to get killed? Get it! Am I learning ya something about assholish, passive aggressive behavior?
Ah, but I digress. Fuck off safe sex assholes. Ha Ha.
Great post DB,
Regards,
BM
QuakHunter
04-03-09, 11:31
About ten years ago I was drinking with four guys in Argentina. We all talked about how we only did Bareback. PERIOD.
Three were athletes, one was a performer and we all had our fair share of sex. Three of them eventually contracted diseases and two of us did not.
Based on my unscientific study that makes a 60% chance of getting an STD.
The results are being studied right now at Johns Hopkins.
Freddy Mercury, Greg Louganis and Magic Johnson were the three who contracted STDs. Me and Wilt Chamberlain are both OK. Since Wilt died of natural causes I need to redo the study.
Renaldo will be replacing Wilt in the control group since he likes trannies. Bret Michaels isn't going to go this time.
Below are pictures of the test subjects, including myself. (Is that Louganis with Fonzie? Who knew?)
Yours in Science,
Dr. Quak
I can't believe what I'm reading, but I will if I only remember the U. S. A. Was the focus from wich HIV was irradiated to rest of the world in the late '80s!
This is a social disease, man!
It's not YOUR LIFE, BUT EVERYONES LIFE!
You do with your life what you want, but just think once not only in your own satisfaction. The virus is transmited by sexual vias, and once you infect others the virus is spread.
Getting bareback sex with pros without condoms is just plain madness!
According with your example, it's not asking the car driver to watch out because he might get killed, you asshole, it's just but because if he's driving stoned or drunk HE MIGHT KILLED OTHERS!I'm not responsible for anyone else's life but my own. If you are so concerned about bareback riders irresponsibly spreading lethal !!! diseases, then get yourself a steady, non puta punch and retire from mongering. Of course, there's no guarantee that steady punch might not have picked up something along the line. Or maybe she's fucking around on you. Maybe she's FUCKING ME! Ha ha.
It's not about retiring from mongering. It's about diminishing risks when you're doing sex. It's about developing social conciousness, man, you're not living alone in this world.Des-some quick research indicates of your total number of AP posts, they have either been about safe sex hysteria or finding yourself a dentist. It appears that health related issues are foremost on your mind. There is more to life Des. I suggest you head on down to Ness, pick out the nastiest looking piece of business in there, and then let her lay waste to your sorry ass sans lubricated condom. Either that or watch Oprah every day and never leave the house.
Roger, Over and Out,
Dogg
I can't believe what I'm reading, but I will if I only remember the U. S. A. Was the focus from wich HIV was irradiated to rest of the world in the late '80s!
This is a social disease, man!
It's not YOUR LIFE, BUT EVERYONES LIFE!
You do with your life what you want, but just think once not only in your own satisfaction. The virus is transmited by sexual vias, and once you infect others the virus is spread.
Getting bareback sex with pros without condoms is just plain madness!
According with your example, it's not asking the car driver to watch out because he might get killed, you asshole, it's just but because if he's driving stoned or drunk HE MIGHT KILL OTHERS!3. If YOU want to protect yourself from either or both of the aforementioned parties, then YOU should use a condom for sex all the time and thus YOU will be protected from the allegedly unsafe sex practices of the other parties.
QuakHunter
04-03-09, 18:04
It's not about retiring from mongering. It's about diminishing risks when you're doing sex. It's about developing social conciousness, man, you're not living alone in this world.As Louis Farrakhan taught us, AIDS was only introduced into the ghetto by the White Devils to eradicate the minority community. (Along with Crack)
If you are not smoking crack in the ghetto while riding bareback with some minority you are safe.
That is straight from my research.
Dr. Quak.
P. S. - I have a minority Dentist who smokes crack in the ghetto if you need him
Tatshea Travel
04-04-09, 21:33
Though I prefer with a condom, in this case I agree with my buddies: doing bareback sex is an individual choice.
Some of us like sex without condom if you pay well chica can acept it.
In Argentina people are poor and they need our dollars.
Take care.
Geez, I should have protecte myself - from this thread! I did not put latex eye covers on and now I am sure I am infected. I have all the signs - headache, stomach upset, and I can feel lesions growing all over my body.
Next time I will practice safe reading, for sure!
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