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Judd

05-10-03, 16:27

Sorry dudes for not posting in awhile. I've been in one of those up all night sleep all day funks for the past week + and yet to find an all night internet cafe.
First, to all the mongers at the Clarin convention. It was an epic day, and I was most impressed by the comraderie everyone exuded. Thanks to Captain Dave and Major Tom for their hospitality. Thanks to Jackson and Roxanne for organizing the day. I was amazed at how things came together so easily. Thank you to B69 for putting aside his mongering desires to help with the translation and pulling me out of the room in my time of need. Guys I pulled this girl into a room after my first choice had to leave with her friend. This girl was maybe a 3 but her time was running short. I thought I would take one for the team and give her a goodbye bang. Everything was going good (nice rack) until she wanted a repeat performance. She got on top of me and turned so her butt was in my plain view. One shot of her cottage cheese ass and I was begging for monger intervention. I hopped of the bed and went for door but my chubby little friend greeted me first and begged me to continue. That's when I bellowed for B69 who eventually came to my aid.

Second, To B69: Can you email me the number of Lola/Leila (The girl with the big butt from Estilo.) Did you get a picture of her butt? If you didn’t, then I will try to okay.

Third, To Slick1: I almost banged your drunk friend from Affaire the other night, the blonde. We started to get tongue friendly. Then she turned and put her big ass between my legs. I remember you! The only way I can remember a girl is by her ass. you're the girl who fell on the table spilling all the champagne. She said that was her but like a true b**** blamed you. I laughed, said yeah whatever, went to the head, and when I came back she left obviously embarrased. I imagine the sex with her was sloppy and average at best?
I banged the little Dominican from Hooks (Lucila) two Friday´s ago. As previously reported, she's very petite with an incredible ASS! She was very energetic, gave BBBJ, and likes it hard. Since she came over before her shift started she was in no hurry. We had two sessions of really hard sex followed by a jerk on her perkie's. We were going to do a third but she started to bleed. I like to bang hard and nasty but when blood enters the picture I immediately become unaroused and disinterested. Once she cleaned up, she still wanted me to shoot another load. I gave it the old College try by breaking out the Vaseline, and had her get on all fours to shake her ass in my face. However, I needed porn in order to accomplish this, but appreciated her effort. Morale of the story, this is one tight girl! I'm an average guy in the cock department so for any "big dudes" out there this girl will not work for you. Little dicks, she'll make you feel like King Kong! 150Ar an hour.
Had a session with Rosaria from Solid Gold. This time sober, I was able to more accurately articulate her banging and sucking abilities. I previously reported that she gave great BBBJ. I have to modify that statement and say that she gives great tender loving type BBBJ. I prefer BBBJ thats a little more intense then this. I kept wanting to grab her by the locks and show her the way but didn’t want to ruin the moment with my perverse desires.
Once the foreplay was finished, I started with the slow rhythmic bang. I gradually increased the speed and intensity until eventually the balls were slamming at a fever pitch. This pleased her. She’s what I would term as a silent moaner. She made these incredible expressions of pleasure with her face but there was no sound coming out of her mouth (perfect for a weekend at the parents house.) Say something! All I got was a few wimpers. We f-d til I was out of breathe and she stayed the night. Later on that night and knowing she was very tired, I turned on the reading lamp pulled back the covers exposing her ass and had a nice jerk! Price is negotiable. Since we were on a date I gave her 80pesos and she was happy with that.
I recommend this girl but I am curious about pulling a girl out of Solid Golds when they are working. Rosaria met me outside of her work so I didn’t have to deal with the club. I recently went into Solid Gold purposely on a night she was not working. I met this striking blonde wanted to take her out for a session. She wanted 200AR for one hour and insisted on going to a hotel nearby. She was hot so I was going to break my 150AR max payment for sex rule. I declined her offer to go to the hotel for an extra 35pesos when my apartment is a f-ing 30 second walk from the club. She reluctantly agreed. She then told me that she needed to have the money before we left the club. Big problem. I said absolutely not and inserted Dashing Don’s line asking when she’s ever had a problem with an American not paying her. She said it doesn´t matter where you´re from but that´s the rule at the club, and she then questioned my confidence in her. I said give me a minute while I go to head and then I got the fuck out of there. I will continue to follow the Jackson covenant of never paying the girl/club/pimp/mom before sex has taken place. Has any other mongers had this problem at Solid Gold or was this just an isolated incident?
More to follow.
Late,
Judd

Bizzie

05-12-03, 02:11

Help!!

I got turned onto these SA cities from a post on www.terb.ca .
I have never been to either BA or Rio but curiosity is going to get the best of me , soon. I have looked some website, but my head is now spinning. For canada, the websites are the way to go, but in the middle east, it was the bars/discos.

There are some real hobbyists on this board, so I'm sure you guys can answer this off the top of your head:

1. What would you say the average cost of a week in BA or Rio may be, including airfare, apartment (nice, average), ladies (one a day maybe two)?

2. How is the experience with website girls. Are they worth the additional cost?

3. Which is better , Rio or BA, for girls and cost?

I am a newbie with limited experience in Dubai and Canada. It seems as if going to these cities may cost less than a week in Toronto or Montreal.

Please help!

Judd

05-12-03, 18:36

Hello All:
Thank you B69 for the chicas phone number. Hopefully I'll be doing a thorough inspection of her big butt in a few days.

Here’s a run down of the past few chicas I banged.

Vicky from Cecieron. This is the sister club of and situated next to Affaire. It’s touted as a higher class version of Affaire, so you’re privileged to pay double for the drinks. The girls are limited but worth a look if you go to Affaire. Vicky is a little hottie with light reddish color hair. She has a full B cup rack coupled with a very nice medium sized ass. Within minutes, I was massaging her ass as our tongues were down each other’s throat. Fellow mongers gave me the thumbs up and a thank you wink as her ample ass was exposed during this makeout session. Back at the apartment, the sex was very heated. After finishing with my routine safari south of the border, she gave a very energetic BBBJ. On to the bang. The slow rhythmic type bang gradually increasing the speed and force was a winner with her. As I continued to pump harder and faster, I heard “Oh, Me Gust Aaaaaaa” in her low sex drenched voice. This behavior continued in several different positions. Once again, since I had condoms which effectively numbed my dick and was out of breathe, I couldn’t achieve full release. She was a trooper though continuing with excellent BBBJ and was more than willing to take CIM if I was able to do so.

Onto Daniela from Affaire. I met her one late night a couple of weeks ago. After showing a couple of fellow mongers around to the other clubs, I went back to Affaire to pick up a girl named Big Butt Foxy Roxy. However, she now appeared a bit pekid then earlier and had that already been banged look. I asked the bouncer who here could give me an energetic bang and he recommended Daniela. She’s a tad on the thick side but put together extremely well. She has a nice C size rack with a fuller and slightly more rounder ass then Vicky. In bed, she performed equally as well as Vicky, and was up for a little “Ass Play” the 2nd time I banged her. This time I was determined to have a nice jerk. I asked her if I could bang without the condom to help facilitate my chemical process. Once she understood my plan to pull out, she agreed. Within a couple minutes and the aid of pornos playing on my computer, I was able to have a nice release on her chest. “Mucho Leche”, she replied.
Both of these girls bang fee was 150 pesos for one hour + one drink minimum (20 at Affaire and 30 at Cecieron.) Either of these girls are an excellent choice. Vicky has a slightly better body but Daniela was a little more open to anything sexually. That may be because we banged on two separate occasions, and I had only one session with Vicky. If interested in these girls, you can simply ask the bouncer in front of Affaire who knows them both. I was a little devious and managed to record both these girl’s sessions. Jackson has since viewed these bootlegged tapes. I think he would concur with me on the girls energy levels and overall lustful desires.
I met Carolina late last Wednesday night at Newports. Newports is a bar where banished boliche chicas, along with newbies to the pay for sex scene, and semi pros looking to pay next months rent hang out. I was there with an Argentine guy I met earlier in the evening. We summoned Carolina to come over since she was sitting by herself and was quite cute. I found out later she was a newbie to this business. She is very tall about 5’ 8 with a very slender body. She has medium black straight hair with a B cup rack. She had one of those asses which flowed naturally to her thighs, typical of tall chicas. I asked my buddy if she would screw both of us and how much she’d charge. She quoted me 450pesos per hour (150 for each person including herself.) I laughed, countered with 200pesos, and headed to the bano. When I returned, I was informed that the deal was a go. Back at the apartment, the sex was marginal with no DATY and her not able to take it hard. Since I had a good buzz going, a full release was out of the question. Afterwards, she did continue to give me BBBJ. After a couple of minutes I told her it wasn’t going to happen. My buddy was next. Like most Argentine dudes, he kept trying for some “Ass Play” but to no avail. Later, he did manage to convince her to bang without condom finishing with full release inside of her. She was a good bargain at 200pesos for 2 guys. I would probably pass if the circumstances were 150 for one on one sex.
I had an outstanding session with a chica from Madahos. However, I can’t remember the girls name. I will post the info about her once I get her name tonight.
Late,
Judd

Dashing Don

05-14-03, 03:05

Now that all the nice things have been said about BA, let me mention something about BA that is not so nice: paying by the hour!

For those of you that have visited Thailand, you will be familiar with the shower routine. Every girl, unbidden, takes a shower before the action starts. The monger is expected to shower too. Maybe together, maybe not. What follows is, on average, more intimate sex. After all, when both people are clean, there is more exploration, oral etc. The girls themselves are often from a rural background, but the Thais do seem to have a higher standard of personal hygiene than the farang (caucasian). They also are more liberal with their time.

In BA, everything is by the hour or ninty minutes etc. Who wants to waste time taking a shower under these circumstances? And the sex, by necessity, is more likely to have a slam/bam aspect to it: "I've only got an hour--gotta make it happen"

Back to Thailand. Over there, time is measured in Short Time or Long Time. Long Time, LT, means overnight and makes for leisurely sex. Whats the hurry? You've got all night. And you might want to do her in the morning too.
Short time, ST, just means less time and a little bit less money than LT. ST could mean one hour or several hours. Either way, there's no rush.

Financial ruin could befall a monger in BA who takes the leisurely route. At 150 or 200/hr, a monger can barely afford to brush his teeth ( cost: 2 minutes--7 pesos); or take a shower ( cost: 6 minutes--20 pesos). Woe betide a player who asks a girl an open-ended-question like "how's the family"--this could necessitate a trip to an ATM!

I'm not saying one place is better than the other, I like them both. Just observing.

Don

OttoGraham

05-14-03, 16:33

Originally posted by Dashing Don
Now that all the nice things have been said about BA, let me mention something about BA that is not so nice: paying by the hour!

This is only a problem if you insist on cutting a deal that requires an hourly rate. You can easily negotiate a toda la noche (TLN) or different arrangement that avoids the problem Don writes about. If you are too shy to make a better arrangement than a straight 200 pesos an hour deal, perhaps you ought to take one of the courses offered at Otto's Charm School, 1024 Santa Fe, tel. 4379-5452.

In our courses for example, you'll learn how your Uncle Otto regularly cuts deals where the chicas pay him a modest hourly rate for his companionship. Of course, you have to be suave and handsome to do this, two qualities, I must painfully note, that not all of our students have. However, to take care of these problems, we do have an on-site gymnasium staffed with personal trainers, haberdashers, and hair stylists who will use all their professional skill to re-make you into the image of everybody's favorite uncle.......

-Uncle Otto

JamesBond69

05-14-03, 17:37

Originally posted by Dashing Don
Financial ruin could befall a monger in BA who takes the leisurely route.

Don

One way to avoid that is take a chica from a club after 3:30am. At that hour the chicas doesn't have to return to the club since it is closed at 5am,.

You can stretch the time out a bit - but of course it depends on the chica and if you haven't attended Tio Otto's exclusive Charm School....well you're on your own and YMMV.

Dickhead

05-14-03, 18:12

Or, be a Dickhead and negotiate the price based on the number of pops instead of the number of hours. This has worked well for me so far.

Seven weeks to go, but four will be in Méjico so that should ease the pain. One more day of work then thirteen weeks off. I love my job. It don't pay shit but I love my job.

OttoGraham

05-14-03, 18:30

Oh boy! Only seven weeks until we're treated to a multitude of posts about trolling for street hos and visiting maximum security prisons! Yipeee!

It's good to know this is a preference born of economic necessity, makes a lot of things much clearer.

Tman777

05-14-03, 22:17

I agree 1,000% with Dashing Don. BA is beautiful, but the "pay by the hour" arrangement is not good. Thailand is much better about the time issue and even Brazil is better. At Help Disco in Rio it's very easy to negotiate an all night arrangement, but in BA it rarely happens unless you're extremely attractive like, say Slick1.
Anyway, for Mr. Average (or below) like me, BA is strictly a 100 to 200 pesos per hour place. OK, but certainly not my ideal.

SeeksGoodTime

05-15-03, 02:11

Dashing Don's comments and some of the follow-up have me a bit concerned. I was looking into a trip in the South A. springtime to BA (and some time in Rio) specifically for a GFE trip. All my following of this thread was certainly on target with that, but lately it seems this scene is getting a little more hardcore since I guess this may be one of the main inflows of cash. Also, from what I read the economic situation is getting better in BA, although certainly not out of the woods yet.

The reason I am concerned is that I don't like being under time pressure. I have a hard time coming with clock watcher types. I really need the illusion aspect. My best experience would be with a provider that is kind of open to re-negotiate as it goes along. For example, start with an hour and if things really start to click to try to negogiate 2-4 hours or toda la noche as something reasonable. Although I am fairly new to this, I find once you see if there is some chemistry between the two, things would be a little cheaper for extending instead of doing it upfront. However, if what I'm hearing is most likely it is going to be difficult and that I'll just be quoted the hour rate * # hours desired, I may not be as interested since that could be cost prohibitive.

I think Dickhead has more negociating power because he is dealing with more girls on the street who would be much more open to custom deals. I'm still a bit unsure how much of this I would be doing, but maybe it would be necessary if the club seen if more inflexible.

Anyway, let me know if I am worrying to much on that and if things probably work themselves out when you are there. I do speak enough Spanish to carry on a basic conversation (how ther doing, what they like, what there occupation, etc.), not fugly (although a a bit heavy for my 5' 8" height ~200), and like to always give the girls little gifts (perfumes, lipsticks, etc) to start things off and settle things down. Based on this, are the club girls likely to get a little less pro attitude when talking about extending in the rooms.

Thanks for any advise.

Boogie Nights

05-15-03, 02:50

Nice to see the gang back on the forum: Dashing Don, Judd, etc....My recent trip to BA wasn't anything spectacular, but I must say that the services were much better during '01, and '02.

Sorry to dissapoint you guys but for someone who just want massages all I got was nothing from this Newport girl (short, black hair, big tits:DD). After paying 100 she insisted on having sexto. I said no, and at the end I got nothing (zero, nada, zilch). Sadly to say I think she was a bit insulted, but hey was it my fault?

My next trip following that were Brazil over at FOZ, and then to Ciudad Del Este. Most of the action that I sought happend at FOZ's. Not only were the price great the girls were beautiful. For 100 Real I got to choose among 14 girls to spend 2 hours with (half were blonde, weird).

After Brazil then came Paraguay. This is my second visit since last year and its safe to say that the Paraguayan women are much fuller than the girls at Argentina BA: if ure into hips, and asses. For those of you going in search of "bobositas" (sp) you wont be disapointed and the price is helluva right.

This report was edited by Jackson for capitalization and punctuation.

JustGotBack

05-16-03, 01:01

Originally posted by Boogie Nights
Nice to see the gang back on the forum: Dashing Don, Judd, etc....My recent trip to BA wasn't anything spectacular, but I must say that the services were much better during '01, and '02.

I totally agree about things being better in '01 and '02. Back then I noticed a lot of the hot girls were saying that they were moving to Mexico because working up there was better. My first thought to this was "huh?". But I guess a lot of them did leave for Mexico. Where would they have gone? I don't think the bars in TJ are their style. For me, most of the "hot" girls left in BA are strictly second string. They were the wallflowers during the golden age of Buenos Aires.

Slick1

05-16-03, 01:22

I don't know, maybe I don't have the most discriminating taste, but I think my trip to BA 2 weeks ago was the best yet. I didn't realize until my trip back when I checked my passport and saw this was my third trip since Sept., but I thought the girls were hot. What you guys are complaining about I don't know, but in this mans opinion I would much rather be gearing up for a night on the town in Ba than back here in the USA.

Dickhead

05-16-03, 01:56

Originally posted by SeeksGoodTime
I think Dickhead has more negociating power because he is dealing with more girls on the street who would be much more open to custom deals. I'm still a bit unsure how much of this I would be doing, but maybe it would be necessary if the club seen if more inflexible.

I negotiate the same way with the Internet girls.

SeeksGoodTime

05-16-03, 02:49

Dickhead,

Thanks for that follow-up. That makes me feel a lot better about the situation. I kind of figured that things were still more fluid in terms of working a deal, but some of the info in the newer posts was starting to remind me of my time in TJ - which is is sort of quick pop central which I'm really not into.

I hope the best for the people of BA and Arg. with the economy and all, but I guess I'm a bit of a selfish bastard in hoping the chica scene doesn't get too pricey down there before I get a chance to experience the beauty described.

SGT

clsncntr

05-17-03, 09:57

Originally posted by Boogie Nights
My next trip following that were Brazil over at FOZ, and then to Ciudad Del Este. Most of the action that I sought happend at FOZ's. Not only were the price great the girls were beautiful. For 100 Real I got to choose among 14 girls to spend 2 hours with (half were blonde, weird).

Boogie, can you provide more details on FOZ, either here or over at the Brazil section? Thanks.

JPF

05-17-03, 19:09

Regarding "pay by the hour": I never had a problem with time. Either the chica told me that time wasn't an issue or I negotiated to get more time. Negotiations in BA can be complicated, trading off money, time, and services. If you want more time, just push for a lower peso amount then back off, offer to take the current offer but ask for more time instead. That generally worked for me.

I have also heard that some clubs "fine" the chicas if they don't return in a certain amount of time (if early in the evening). If that is the case you can tell her you will pay the fine for her (usually something like 50 pesos).

Good negotiating strategy, I've used it myself on several occasions.

The rules regarding the "fines" that the chicas have to pay for staying out too long vary from club to club, but the policy at Madahos is fairly representative.

The bar fine at Madahos is one drink at $35.00AR for a one hour session, 2 drinks for a two hour session, and 3 drinks for the rest of the evening. Generally, everyone assumes that you have negotiated a one hour session, which means they expect her to be back in the club within 90 minutes, but if they know (or if you tell them) that you've negotiated a 2 hour session or that she isn't going to return, they will expect you to buy the additional drinks on the spot.

As the night progresses, this becomes less of an issue, and if you wait until 3:30 am, you will only pay a one drink bar fine yet they won't expect her to return. This of course assumes that you're not stupid enough to tell them at 4:00 am that you've negotiated a 2 hour session, because if you do they will charge you for the 2 drink fine.

In addition, if you take a chica out of the club after 3:30, she can cash in her drink tickets before she leaves because she's not required to return. This is part of what they're doing as they scurry around the bar before your departure. Of note, the chicas in the club cannot begin cashing out their drink tickets and leaving until 4:30am, 30 minutes before the 5:00am closing time.

If you pay a one drink bar fine, and the chica returns more than 90 minutes later, they will make her pay them for the additional drink or drinks that they would have expected you to pay had you declared your intentions to keep her longer when you left. Of course, the easy solution here is to give her the additional funds to pay the club then next time she reports for work.

Madahos, Blacks and Shampoo are rather strict in enforcing their policies, and some of you have no doubt observed the guy standing in the corner of the bar in Madahos making continuous notes on a chart. His job is to keep track of the drinks the girls convince the customers to buy, to cash in their drink tickets at the end of the night, and to monitor their departure and return times.

Other clubs such as Play Women, Affair, etc. don't actually seem so strict, and I can't actually recall any time when the time the chica was gone from these clubs was an issue, but this shouldn't be construed as a verified fact. For all I know, it's entirely possible that they just don't monitor how long the chicas are out with me because I go in there so often, but they might be more strict with other guys.

Jackson

JamesBond69

05-18-03, 01:48

Originally posted by JPF
Madahos, Blacks and Shampoo are rather strict in enforcing their policies, and some of you have no doubt observed the guy standing in the corner of the bar in Madahos making continuous notes on a chart. His job is to keep track of the drinks the girls convince the customers to buy, to cash in their drink tickets at the end of the night, and to monitor their departure and return times.

Jackson[/blue] [/i]Very interesting Sr. Jackson.

I didn't realize the chicas also make money for THEMSELVES by hustling drinks.

I naievely thought they just did that so the club would allow them to work there, as I understand the clubs don't get any cut from the money the girls get from the guys for sex.

This also explains why the girls work sometimes when they don't leave for sex because they are having their period or how they survive (and why they show up) when they don't get any clients, as is often the case, particularly with the less attractive chicas.

Any idea what percentage each girls earns per drink? I can't imagine it is much on a 20 pesos Madahos drink but at Blacks with the 50 pesos drinks I imagine it could add up to a nice stash at the end of the evening.

The girls in Madahos get paid $5.00AR for every drink they can convince a customer to buy. By my observation, a typical night's take for drinks is anywhere from $20.00AR to $40.00AR. This doesn't sound like a lot, but it's roughly the same as they would make working in a regular job, and is in addition to what they get paid for their "other services".

BTW, the girls work when they're on their periods because the clubs require that they work a minimum number of nights every week, usually including Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays. As always, the premium clubs are more strict than the regular clubs, and I know some girls in some clubs that are able to negotiate a reduced schedule for themselves.

Jackson

Traveler0099

05-18-03, 18:45

Flavia is 25 years old, about 5’7”, small breasts, long dark blonde hair, with a gorgeous wide smile, who is going to UBA part-time and studying for a degree in Psychology. She has a very cute 6 year old daughter. A club girl for only one month she says, working at Playwoman.

Flavia speaks the most basic of English but wants to learn more (her sister teaches English in school). She provides very good sex and is a lot of fun to be with because she likes to laugh and joke. As Jackson remarked to me, and we agree on this, personality is a key to a good chica experience. Any mongers who speak Spanish well will find her a joy to be with.

We discovered her in our first club visit – Playwoman -- on my first night of a four-night stay in BA, a Wednesday, and I did not take her out immediately as I wanted to see some other clubs. I did tell her that I would be back later, at the time never expecting to do so.

As it turns out, after four clubs, I thought she was the best that I had seen, so I went back at around 2:30 AM. Turns out Flavia was just about to leave with another guy, but when she saw me, she conspired with a waitress to get rid of the other guy. She did and came back to my hotel room for 2 hours for 200. I did not try to negotiate at that hour, especially after she dumped the other guy. The next day, Jackson thought this maneuver (dumping the other guy) by her was very unusual.

The next night -- Thursday -- after dinner with Jackson, a lady friend of his, and Judd, I went mongering with Judd and this guy from Denmark. Judd quickly picked out a girl at Affaire that met his specs, leaving me & the Danish guy to monger alone.

He and I went to Madahos first and neither of us liked the talent, so we went to Playwoman. Flavia was there sitting with two other guys, but within 3 minutes she joined me at the bar. I asked Flavia to get a date for the Danish guy, but he didn't want what Flavia got for him, so he left. I got stuck with his bar tab plus the one for Flavia and me, but it was OK. Same price for Flavia, but this time it was for 2.5 hours. Same treatment from her at the hotel. She left at 4:30 to go home to her daughter, after giving me her cell number.

Friday I called Jackson and I told him of my dates with her and basically he said that the usual hit rate in BA was 50% and given what she was doing with me both personally and sexually, I had done exceptionally well and had hit a soft spot with her.

So I said to myself, if I try with someone else tonight -- Friday, the odds are against me, so why not Flavia again? So I had Roxana call her and arrange a TLN, starting at 9:30 PM for dinner. We went to dinner at a nearby restaurant, where we had a small bottle of champagne, salad, large quantities of beef (neither of us could finish), a bottle of red, dessert and coffee. Flavia told me that she had taken a course in "gastronomia" about two years before, so I was impressed with her knowledge of the wines and the conversation that she had with the waiter of which to choose. BTW, she could have chosen a bottle that was twice as expensive, but she told me that she chose one that was a good value for the money (25 pesos for the bottle).

Back at the hotel, Flavia attacked me the moment we got back and it was a very loving, gentle, and, at times, animalistic session. About 2:30 AM, I told Flavia that I wanted to sleep, so she curled up in my arms and we woke at about 10 AM. I had a raging hard-on which she helped me with. We went back to sleep and finally she had to get ready to leave at 12:30.

I only had big bills ($100s) to give her, so we had to wait at the hotel for change to arrive. We had a coffee together in the hotel lobby and the waiter remarked to us that we looked "contento" together. Flavia laughed and gave me another one of many big kisses. She likes to kiss. A lot.

My last night in BA, I once again convinced myself that I had to have Flavia again, only because if I had a mediocre experience, I would have been disappointed. So I called Flavia directly on Saturday afternoon (her night off to be home with her child) and asked if she would do the TLN with me that night. She most heartily agreed. She showed up at 9:30 and we took a taxi to Puerto Maderos for a lovely dinner at a restaurant whose name I don’t remember. Back at the hotel, more of the same from Flavia, with a most passionate time ensuing. She stayed until 1:30 the next afternoon, after having breakfast served in the room via room service.

As I related the entire story to Jackson the day I left, he was happy to see that I had such a good time. As he said, “You probably did not make a dent in her life long-term, but you certainly did short-term.” I asked Flavia how much the total of cash that I had given her would last, and she said, “About two months.” That is gratifying.

We have exchanged emails and will continue to do so, now that I am home in the USA. Roxana translated her most recent message to me, and Roxana said that it was clear that our relationship was something special for both of us and that was a wonderful thing.

A most happy and successful trip to BA, but without the variety that some of us like. I was happy.

In short, Flavia, to me, was like a little angel of happiness, who brought some very special joy into my life. When I get to BA next, I will be sure to see her again.

Highly recommended!

JustGotBack

05-19-03, 04:11

Traveler, that's a very nice story. I use babelfish.altavista.com to translate my communications with my BA lady friends. It sounds kind of funny at times, but you do understand each other.

El Aleman

05-19-03, 15:53

Well...

It is time I contribute my share to this forum.

I have been reading for quite some time, extracting a lot of information to prepare for the "leisure time section" of an upcoming business trip- not only directly hobby related, but as well other info about BA. I am now just back from this trip, but started writing on last tuesday, may 13, when at 11:45 pm, I found myself sitting at my laptop instead of having a chica sitting on top of my lap - something went wrong with that evening.

But, from the beginning:

I was here on business, which means a schedule that includes appointments in the morning, so hitting the clubs til far past midnight seemed not to be an option to me. So, I followed the advice frequently given on this board and contacted Roxana (Hi, my dear) well in advance by email. I booked her famous city tour for last Sunday (May 11) and we agreeed that I would call her as soon as I'd arrive in Buenos Aires. Which I did last Saturday around noon.

Saturday was then committed to stretching my legs after a night on the plane and a first meeting (business). When this was over, I called Roxana again and asked to arrange an appointment on very short notice for later that evening. I gave her the name of maybe 4 girls from escortsagentina.com, and she promised to try her best. Half an hour later she called back and told me (I imagine a broad grin on her face) I was lucky, and bound for a great night:

Bruna.

It was a great night. Either this chica really likes what she does, or I herewith nominate her for the Academy Award as Best Actress. Ehhh - how does a girl act a wet pussy? After taking advantage of said wetness, we had some wine, tried to talk a bit (difficult, my spanish is existent but limited), cuddled, and suddenly my darling Bruna emitted soft, snoring sounds...

Having sex is one thing. But beeing so at ease as to fall asleep in someone else's (my) arms expresses a different kind of intimacy. Maybe that is what we mean when talking about GFE. And maybe I am a terribly romantic asshole.

Bruna left after about 3 hours and another round, and I slept like a stone.

Btw: there are Blowjobs. There are good bj's. And there is this Brasilian girl's tongue.

Highly recommended.

Next day at 11, the stone woke up, had breakfast and was ready to meet Roxana for the city tour.
Those who know Roxana may skip these lines, but for all the others: If you are in B.A., meet her. Roxana does not give you the kind of city tour where you get chased from monument to monument, rather you get an impression of the various neighbourhoods, discover bits and pieces of that city, and you talk with a very sophisticated person about Argentina, the world, sex, yourself, herself.... . Time just flies.

The tour included the 2 most famous buildings of Buenos Aires, the Casa Rosada (seat of the president) and the Residence of Jackson, to whom I was introduced, and and ended with an unforgettable dinner in the company of two lovely ladies, Roxana and Mayra. You will both get personal emails.

Monday I was out of town, and today I asked Roxana again to get me a date. Among the chicas I picked on saturday was Lara, and we agreed on a night to start with dinner and be continued en la cama. That was at least what I thought to have agreed to. Lara picked a (really good) italian restaurant, Sorento in Puerto Madero, and the dinner part went quite well, I managed to keep up some sort of conversation despite my far less than perfect language skills.

Back to the hotel. Kisses in the elevator, I expected the best: kisses, long foreplay, exploring each other, giving and taking pleasure, the works. This was not to happen. I would rather call it hardcore professional. Quickly down between my legs, a lengthy 69 (I felt more hands than mouth), riding, I came and she was back in her pants at light speed. La cama occupied by 2 lasted maybe 30 minutes, she got her money and I booted the laptop.

Not recommended.

Some afterthoughts, Roxana, you might disagree.

We talked about approximately 3 hours, and that "Lara does not watch the clock". from our meeting in the hotel lobby until her departure passed exactly 2:45, ca. 2 hours spent wining, dining, taxi riding and the rest in my room. Elsewhere on this board has been a discussion about how to consider time spent at dinner, with Roxana expressing the opinion that the girls would be working as long as she is with you and others saying that they consider this time completely free. I see the truth somewhere in between, and considering the fact that the compensation Roxanna negotiates for the girls seems to me beeing on the high side of what is discussed on this board, I expect some more flexibility. I certainly did not expect what I experienced today. My feeling is, that the lady was in a hurry to see her next client. And this, having a good time at dinner and then finish the guy off and take the loot, hurts. Also, I think to remenber having said something like "ca. 3 hours, and taking the girl for dinner first", meaning even if not properly communicated or understood 3 hours AFTER dinner.

Now, adressing Roxana directly:
No bad feelings against you (when you read that, we already talked in person). You are NOT responsible for what happened. You are, however, in a position to help avoid things like that.

On Sunday night, I made the remark of Mayra and you being "brokers in accomodation of various kind", and we all loughed at that. I still think, that describes rather well the job you do. Among a broker's responsibilities is to ensure that both parties understand the content of the contract to be made. Either myself or Lara did not.

Just my 2 pesos....

The next night, after having an incredibly good dinner at Mirasol's, I met Jackson, who introduced me to the clubs - or better, to one of them (Playwoman), as I did not get so see another one that evening, instead back to the hotel with

... (s..t, I forgot her name - Jackson, maybe you want to edit, the dark haired you recommended me A+)

incredible, how much energy is in such a small girl. Recommended.

My last night, thursday, I spent on Roxana's recomendation with Libia.

An amazing person. She speaks as far as I can tell fluent and accent free english, and claims to have never had any lessons, just learned it by watching TV and talking - she must be a natural talent. And she is anything but dumb, it is as pleasant talking with her as making love - and she is also very talented at that. Should you ever meet her, treat her as nicely as you can - she deserves it.

We first went to a dinner organized by Roxana and Jackson, and it was fun talking to some of the forum guys and of course to again meeting the "locals" Roxana, Mayra and Jackson. When that was finished after nearly 2 1/2 hours, I took her to my room where we spent another maybe 3 hours doing it, talking, loughing, having a good time together. The perfect conclusion of my days in Buenos Aires.

Highly recommended, contact via Roxana.

One piece of advice: The girls do not always carry condomes (2 out of 4 in my case did not and we had to buy some at night), and the local brands smell like a smoldering tire on the city dump. One girl did not want to take my dick into her mouth again after a rubber has been on it - it would taste just too awful. Also, I felt considerably more with european ones. So, buy some supply of a good brand while in the U.S. or Europe and take them with you.

To get back to a thread that has been on that forum some time ago: For a guy from Europe (Germany in my case) it is probably not worth the effort to go to Argentina just for the Hobby. If, however, other business takes you there - Buenos Aires has much to offer, don't miss it.

El Aleman

p.s. whoever finds a typo may keep it, and kindly consider that English is not my first language.

Traveler0099

05-19-03, 16:34

Justgotback:

Yes, we did use the babelfish translator when we were in my hotel room. It was a great help and having her sitting on my lap as all this translation was happening -- in between smooching-- was fun.

At the restaurants, I had bought her a English-Spanish dictionary and a phrasebook, so we did OK.

I think we spoke well enough to get along and have fun. I just wish that I knew more to have made a great experience even better. Remember, what made the experience great for me was mostly her attitude and her sweet and happy nature. That was special.

Oh yeah, the sex was great too!

Trav

Traveler0099

05-19-03, 17:00

JamesBond69 & Jackson:

From what Flavia told me, she DOES make money off the drinks that she gets the guys to buy. And as Jackson states, Flavia told me she me that she made more working at the club just hustling drinks than she made working a day job in "finance" which she had quit just before starting at Playwoman.

The times out with guys like us are a BONUS.

Trav

Traveler0099

05-19-03, 17:52

One more thing ... A RIPOFF TO AVOID

My second night in BA, before going to dinner with Jackson & Company, I decided to surf the Internet and see if I could find a quickie before dinner.

I went to Gemidos and found VICTORIA, listed as "Conejita de Playboy Internacional" at 4314-5523.

I called and the receptionist said that she would be working in 1/2 hour from now and that they had an apartment which unbelievably was just around the corner from my hotel!

I went over there 1/2 hour later, and any ressemblance between the cutie in the picture and the lady claiming to be Victoria that I could see was that they were both female. She kept telling me she was the woman in the pic, but I ain't that dumb.

So I asked the cute litle receptionist if I could speak to her privately. (I wanted to do her instead!) So we were left alone in the entry room and she says to me, "Listen, don't let them know this, but I have my period. So don't take me. " I thought, well then maybe just a BBBJ from her would hold me for a while. So I asked the "sin condom" for "sexo oral" question and she looked at me like I was from Mars. "I do not do that!"

Color me out of there....

Trav

Cataldi

05-19-03, 20:42

Sorry to be critical, but the posts re B.A. are frankly disappointing in that nothing is ever mentioned about the girls' receptiveness to the more extreme activities. Presumably, those who fly 24 hours each way do so in the hope of emulating those lucky porno stiffs, but there's never any mention in these posts of, e.g., anal or showers. So what's the deal? Are the Argentine women any more open to this stuff than U.S. whores? Or does money overcome the problem? Let's go: I know at least some of you guys crave something beyond straight sex and BJ's. Don't you think the descriptions should be more forthcoming and colorful? Tell us what a typical Argentine reaction is when a gal learns you want to explore her bum. Tell us whether an extra $30 U.S. will dispense with the condom. You guys have become an intramural backslapping society for those already in town.

Guillermo

05-20-03, 04:13

Originally posted by El Aleman
Among the chicas I picked on saturday was Lara, and we agreed on a night to start with dinner and be continued en la cama. That was at least what I thought to have agreed to. Lara picked a (really good) italian restaurant, Sorento in Puerto Madero, and the dinner part went quite well, I managed to keep up some sort of conversation despite my far less than perfect language skills.

Back to the hotel. Kisses in the elevator, I expected the best: kisses, long foreplay, exploring each other, giving and taking pleasure, the works. This was not to happen. I would rather call it hardcore professional. Quickly down between my legs, a lengthy 69 (I felt more hands than mouth), riding, I came and she was back in her pants at light speed. La cama occupied by 2 lasted maybe 30 minutes, she got her money and I booted the laptop.

Not recommended.

El Aleman,

Are you talking about the Lara on Area Vip, or Escorts-Argentina?

Thanks,

Guillermo

El Aleman

05-20-03, 08:22

Guillermo,

I am speaking about the Lara from EscortsArgentina.

and: the name of the girl I forgot in my post is Diana.

El Aleman

OttoGraham

05-20-03, 12:56

Originally posted by Cataldi
Sorry to be critical, but the posts re B.A. are frankly disappointing in that nothing is ever mentioned about the girls' receptiveness to the more extreme activities. Presumably, those who fly 24 hours each way do so in the hope of emulating those lucky porno stiffs, but there's never any mention in these posts of, e.g., anal or showers. So what's the deal? Are the Argentine women any more open to this stuff than U.S. whores? Or does money overcome the problem? Let's go: I know at least some of you guys crave something beyond straight sex and BJ's. Don't you think the descriptions should be more forthcoming and colorful? Tell us what a typical Argentine reaction is when a gal learns you want to explore her bum. Tell us whether an extra $30 U.S. will dispense with the condom. You guys have become an intramural backslapping society for those already in town.

Cataldi,

For somebody's FIRST POST you sure have started off on the wrong foot. First you demand information about being p!ssed on by an escort, then you excoriate us for not giving information and being a mutual admiration society.

Have YOU provided any useful information on this board? You have provided NOTHING.

And indeed, NOTHING is what you're going to get in return.

Crawl back beneath your rock. Dismissed.

-Uncle Otto

TicToc

05-20-03, 13:17

Hey folks,

I will be travelling to BA in June and would like some insight in the scene.

I live in Santa Cruz Bolivia (see my post on that board) and get to travel around a bit in SA. But my previous visits to BA have been to short to explore any fun. Hope to change that this time.

Noew for the rapid fire questions (sorry to bug you guys but hety if you don't ask you don't get):

Are ther any clubs like Barbarrellas or Help (Rio) in BA. Places where the talent is semi pro and there is a reasonable selection?

What is the resonable rate for toda de noche?

While I have perused the web sites nowhere do they give any idea what are the rates for outcall. What do the escorts from, for example platynum, get for the service?

Any suggestions on a goosd couple of nights out in BA to explore the local scene would be appreciated and if some one wants to meet up for a first hand experience sharing session, I'll buy the beer.

If anyone travels to Bolivia let me know and I can help on that side.

Thanks in advance.

Yeah Baby

05-20-03, 15:12

Dear Uncle Otto,

You are a gentlemen and much to kind to our new friend Cataldi, however, I hold no such claims to possesiing such a polite disposition. Accordingly, Cataldi - PISS OFF!

Andres

05-20-03, 19:51

Short trip to Buenos Aires

Issue 1: Natalia of the "Temple of Marrion"

I arrived yesterday for a short trip of a week. Although having barely slept and went to a crazy errands journey, I had some rest to try an apartment girl.

I went to a classic of the local hobbists: The Temple of Marrion (Maipú St 429 5th 5). Lately, the place seemed to have good girls (usually posted with a last 4-digits phone number 4568). There is a concierge in the entrance, but he doesn't hassle.

I was welcomed by a Dominican girl called Natalia, a "morocha" of 5"7', nice legs, nice butt but small tits. She had a really good attitude. She introduced herself and then let the other 3 girls introduce themslves (only 5 working there, when usually are 8-10). No girl was very special, just 5 in a 10 scale.

I was about to leave when I asked Natalia if she did everything. She said "yes", but no much convincingly. Since 30 minutes costed only ar$50 (ar$80 for an hour), I said "what the hell...let's try".

The experience was merely good: nothing outstanding nor bad. Her good attitude compensated her broken commitment of doing everything. I wanted a BBBJ, and she only did CBJ. Otherwose her oral involvement were sporadic (I mean, not pumping, just sucking now and then a couple of strokes). Anyway, her oral techniques weren't so amazing.

After that, we got into a stand position where she moaned and caressed me. I came fast (very tired) and started chatting with the girl. Very conversational and empathetic.

Anyway, not a "must see" experience, but OK for the monger catering to conventional experiences.

Hope this helps,

Andres

DownBA

05-21-03, 01:38

Originally posted by Cataldi
Sorry to be critical, but the posts re B.A. are frankly disappointing in that nothing is ever mentioned about the girls' receptiveness to the more extreme activities. Presumably, those who fly 24 hours each way do so in the hope of emulating those lucky porno stiffs, but there's never any mention in these posts of, e.g., anal or showers. So what's the deal? Are the Argentine women any more open to this stuff than U.S. whores? Or does money overcome the problem? Let's go: I know at least some of you guys crave something beyond straight sex and BJ's. Don't you think the descriptions should be more forthcoming and colorful? Tell us what a typical Argentine reaction is when a gal learns you want to explore her bum. Tell us whether an extra $30 U.S. will dispense with the condom. You guys have become an intramural backslapping society for those already in town. Cataldi, you are either illiterate or blind or both....there are literally dozens if not hundreds of references to girls allowing or rejecting anal play in these pages. As for our intramural backslapping, yes, the mongers in these pages like each other and enjoy mongering together while in BA at the same time! Do you have a problem with that?

Lastly and for the record, I love playing around with a gorgeous "orto" and haven't had any problem finding Argentines, Brazilians, Peruvians, etc., in BA that are willing to let me satisfy my desires with their awesome posaderas. DownBA

Andres

05-21-03, 05:25

Issue 2: 05/20 - Very good experience in Flores

After another day full of errands and social commitments, I felt like going straight to bed. But... it's a sin to come to BA for such a little time and skip a night... so I took the car by 12AM and started driving for assessing the usual SW scene.

Constitucion, Once and Flores had a quality increasingly degraded from my previous trip. I only saw a doable beauty standing at the corner of Riobamba St and Paraguay St. May visit her later.

First club to enter was Envidia, ar$5 the entrance fee (1 drink included) and about 18-20 girls, many of whom just started. I saw a terrific petite beauty (gorgeous face, great body, great boobs in a 5"2'package) called Abril. She refused any BBBJ and/or anal, so I passed her. Another girls that I liked was thick-lipped baby called Ayelen. She promised to do BBBJ if tipped. Not bad, since 30 minutes cost ar$50 and 20 minutes ar$40 (I guess that 1 hour costs ar$80). However, I wasnted to gauge the Flores scene, so I left.

Went then to La nuit/Dollys (as 5 months ago, ar$7 the entrance). Almost same girls as before. A Libanese girl with nice waist, huge boobs but flat butts got my attention. She promised FULL service, but she wasn't my type. Same session prices as in Envidia, and 18 girls.

I left the place and saw, at the corner of San Pedrito Av and directorio Av, a huge new place almost to be opened called "New Liza", which is the new place for "Liza". To give you an idea, it is similar in shape to Madaho's (a former car dealer place converted into sin dealer place). I thoght "if Liza is upgrading, their girls should have improved") so I crossed the street form La Nuit and entered Liza.

For my surprise, no entrance fee and more affordable prices (ar$25 the 15 minutes, ar$30 the 20 minutes and ar$40 the 30 minutes). I saw just a couple of doable girls (out of 14), but one got specially my attention: A Dominican dark skinned girl called Jessica. Very petite (5"0') but with Hollywood tits and butt, and thick lips. Whe was in a very good mood and accepted to do BBBJ. We went to the rooms for 30 minutes. She was delighted that I promised to tip her with ar$25.

WOW! This girl really "sucks": he did a BBBJTC and swallowed! Great massage afterwards and nice chat.

Well... what can I say? I got what I wanted for a more than affordable price.

Hope this helps,

Andres

OttoGraham

05-21-03, 14:15

How about that! A polite request for information.

My comments in bold.

Originally posted by TicToc
Hey folks,

I will be travelling to BA in June and would like some insight in the scene.

I live in Santa Cruz Bolivia (see my post on that board) and get to travel around a bit in SA. But my previous visits to BA have been to short to explore any fun. Hope to change that this time.

Noew for the rapid fire questions (sorry to bug you guys but hety if you don't ask you don't get):

Are ther any clubs like Barbarrellas or Help (Rio) in BA. Places where the talent is semi pro and there is a reasonable selection?

Not familiar with those clubs, nor what you mean by semi-pro or not. IMHO they either play for pay or they don't. However, the clubs I would recommend checking out are, at a minimum, Madaho's, Black's, and Hook.

What is the resonable rate for toda de noche?

Depends on a lot of different circumstances (time, which club or source the girl comes from, your looks and manners, etc...). A rough number is 300-400 pesos.

While I have perused the web sites nowhere do they give any idea what are the rates for outcall. What do the escorts from, for example platynum, get for the service?

Open to negotiation. Anywhere from 100 pesos an hour to 200. More than that and you're getting ripped off. My suggestion is to use Roxana to negotiate for you for the easiest service here, unless you are fluent in Spanish and comfortable with such negotiations.

Any suggestions on a goosd couple of nights out in BA to explore the local scene would be appreciated and if some one wants to meet up for a first hand experience sharing session, I'll buy the beer.

Check the restaurants and bars section for places. After you go, post your experiences. (That goes for everything, by the way, not just restaurants and bars.)

If anyone travels to Bolivia let me know and I can help on that side.

Thanks in advance.

-Uncle Otto

Slick1

05-21-03, 19:22

Just booked a last minute trip to Cali, Colombia for the Memorial Day weekend. I'm not quite sure why I'm risking abduction by guerrilla rebels rather than spending an extra 5 hours in coach travel to go back to BA, but I'll hopefully let you know how it goes. I love the Portenas but I have heard the Calenas may be the most beautiful girls in the world. I'm not really that picky but they say variety is the spice of life. Hey b69, if I do get abducted I'll have my captors send you an email to translate the ransom note for me. Hopefully I'll be released in time for the Clarin Experiment Part 2.

Judd

05-21-03, 22:36

Slick1:
I have a buddy who lives in Cali if you need a guide and translator. His name is Ramon and he is a very cool guy. He knows many pros as well as non pros who want to meet Americans. Let me know if you´re interested and I will shoot his email address over to you.
Late,
Judd

Judd

05-21-03, 22:46

Guys, my laptop cd drive took shitter last week. I was unable to transfer my pre-written posts to the board. I finally had some time to re-type my posts. I´m just going to dump them on the board while I have the opportunity to do so. Unless otherwise stated, I paid 150 pesos per session with the chicas.

To Cataldi: Pay attention as you will find interest in these posts.

Screwed a couple of hot chicas from Madahos. Met Paola about 2 weeks ago. Paola is a little firecracker. This girl can´t be more than 5 feet tall. What she lacks in size she makes up for with T&A and attitude. She has long jet black straight hair with medium B cup rack coupled with an incredibly round semi-large ass. I had Paola on 2 separate occasions and she was just as devious the 2nd time around. She comes off as innocent in the club but can be just plain nasty in bed. At the apartment, she started with BBBJ and she immediately deep throated me. She likes to suck cock and has excellent technique. She´s also focused on your needs as I told her to suck harder and faster which she obliged. Once I got her into the 69 position, she put her digit into her tight little cola. I quickly replaced her finger with mine and started to work it in there pretty hard. This pleased her. “Ass Play” was eminent in my near future as she started sucking me harder and faster. Once the foreplay was finished, we went at it hard and nasty in a multitude of positions. I slapped her ass several times which she liked and went in for “Ass Play”. To my surprise, she like it hard down there as well. I couldn´t believe the nastiness this girl exuded. We continued in a couple of more positions until I had enough. She then became the first girl in my 5 week trip to S.A. who was able to suck me off after such a heated bang session. She tickled the tip of my dick with her tongue as I had this incredible release on her mouth and cheek reminiscent of a Buttman flick. Needless to say, I highly recommend this girl. A couple of things about her to note. She has a tattoo of a scorpion on the back of her right shoulder. She lives in the suburbs. Get her early in the evening if your want to avoid paying her a 20-30 cab fare to get her home.

I met Ricaela at Madahos last week. Ricaela is a stunning looking Paraguayan with a tremendous ass! She has black hair, dark skin and these piercing blue eyes. I immediately knew I had to have this girl. Although Paola was there, I blew her off. She failed to meet me for our planned date with the other mongers at a fancy Italian restaurant. Back at the apartment, Ricaela´s ass made my mouth water as it was big n round. She´s another nasty girl who guided my finger to her cola when I was paying homage to her butt. However, later she declined for “Ass Play”. She took me by surprise when giving me BBBJ. Everything was cool then she started with AR on me. Judd´s not into this but I do appreciate the offer. As with all the Argentine chicas, she loved the hard bang and slapped my ass wanting it given to her harder. We took a break and then had a repeat session. Couldn´t release due to all the wine and beer I drank before arriving at Madahos. Another recommended chica. She should be easy to spot at Madahos since she´s one of the most visually stunning girls at the club.

to be continued....

Judd

05-21-03, 22:58

Judd´s perversions continued...

My final night in BA was last Saturday. It was spent banging 2 two extremely hot chicas in a span of about 3 hours. Jackson and I met up with 2 other Canadian mongers and headed to Hooks. Hooks was dead with only a couple of doable chicks. However, the first monger fell faster then Dashing Don at the Clarin convention.

Off we went to Affaire where we all found something we liked. Jackson hooked up with a cute newbie to the club. Canada Dry went for a girl next door type. I met a hot nasty looking Brasilera named Ana. Once we started dancing, this girl really opened up to me and I could tell it was going to be a night filled with nasty sex. She had nice fake large C rack, as always with me, an incredibly large ass. Canada Dry´s girl was friends with my girl so we all went back to his hotel. Since it was around 2:00am we negotiated (a 30 peso tip) with the bouncer so the ladies did not have to return to the club. Our plan was to hopefully taste both chicas with the extra time.

Back at the hotel, the session almost came to a halt as she wanted 200 pesos and to be paid first. I countered with my usual 150 and would pay upon completion of the deed. I zipped up my pants and started to leave before she agreed. With negotiations out of the way, we started with 69. Her BBBJ skills were very good and also deep throated. Canada Dry was knee deep with girl next door pussy but was envious of me. Back at Affaire he overheard me talking about how Ana liked it up the ass. Apparently “Ass Play” is difficult to get with the chicas up North.

True to form, she guided my member to her second opening. The bang was deep and she signaled me to hit the cola harder. “No problem babe”. We continued until she had an orgasm from this intense “Ass Play” session. Now she wanted my juice and started to suck me off. I told her this wasn´t possible since I was already 8 beers deep. Being a bit devious I stated, “I might be able to orgasm if I can bang your ass without condom”. Okay…
Wow, this felt incredible and we banged for another 10 minutes before having to be place on the DL. Meanwhile, Canada Dry had finished a less than stellar session. The girls came up with some stupid excuse for having to return to the club which effectively killed our mood.

Knowing that Canada Dry felt a little slighted, I suggested we head to Madahos and have a look. It was 3:45am and to our surprise there was still several hotties left in the club. Ricaela, the stunning looking Paraguayan I banged earlier in the week was available but I had my eye on one of the hottest girls in the clubs. Her name is Rocio. I´ve seen her many times before but she was usually with another dude. Canada Dry was impressed with her also but I got him hooked up with a Jackson recommended chica named Eliana. Rocio has one of the best bodies I´ve seen at any of the boliches. She´s about 5´3 with medium brown hair and tanned skin. She has a large C sized rack and of course that bubble butt.

Back at the apartment, I did a thorough oral examination and I couldn´t find a flaw on this girl´s body. During 69, I can´t honestly remember how she was with the BBBJ since I was too busy concentrating on licking every crevice of her perferct butt. Once the 69 sesseion was over, I told her to get into her favorite sexual position. She immediately go on all fours and shook her tight round ass at my dick. Oh boy. The sensations I lacked with Ana immediately came back to me...this was going to be a quick jerk for me. I went in and was impressed by how she pushed her ample ass straight into the air while her chest and face remained glued to the bed. I love it when they do that! This gave me a great view as her tight pussy grabbed my cock. I almost released but stopped JIT. Could only last a couple of more minutes before pulling off the raincoat releasing a large load all over chest and stomach. She told me I was nasty for doing this. Gracias!!!

to be continued...

Judd

05-21-03, 23:15

Perversions continued....

This last report surrounds my experiences with internet girls while in BA. First off, it´s best to go with the chicas who mongers posted having a positive experience. If not, your´re likely to become frustrated when the knock comes at the door and it´s no one close to what the picture portrayed. Most women fall short on their looks compared to the photos. There are a myrad of other problems that can and will occur with these girls.

Contacted Cindi/Lucia from Platynum.ar and set up a session with her for 1 hour 100pesos. She called back to say she was on her way but never showed. Called Maribel out of the AltoSex.com website. This was one of those bait and switch scams that litter the websites. They sent over some old hag whom I quickly ushered back to the taxi. They called back and I told them I wanted the girl in the photo who they said didn´t exist. No Shit! They instead sent over a younger girl who was slightly better than a Clarin girl. I was horny so I banged her and had a good jerk. 100 pesos plus 10 for the taxi.

Not having much luck, I contacted Roxana to setup some appointments for me. She made an appointment with a girl I thought was Bruna, the big titted Brazilian from Platynum.ar. Turned out to be Bruna from Escorts-Argentina. She wasn´t as good looking as her photos but she was still doable. However, she insisted in getting paid (100 pesos) before the sex began so I politely showed her the door.

Next, Roxana setup a session with busty Maru from Platynum.ar. A fellow monger posted about his session with her so I knew she was a real live chica! She has one extremely huge natural rack, and as previously posted needs supreme dental work. Overall, I was a bit disappointed by her appearance as she was a bit chunkier then her photos suggested. On a positive note, she was very enthusiastic and gave quite a good BBBJ. She also gave me an outstanding titty fuck which led to a sublime jerk on her massive mounds and CSL lips. I paid her a total of 130 pesos but she could easily been negotiated down to 100 pesos. If you´re into massive tits, then Maru´s the girl for you. One thing to note. Maru is like many of the other girls I´ve banged in BA who sorta hum when giving me a BJ. Another positive aspect for the girl, she has hum factor!

Onto my best internet experience in BA. Roxana setup an appointment with with a girl named Elissa from Platynum.ar. Elissa arrives at my door and as usual it´s not the same girl. However she is equally as hot. It turns out she is Ivett from Sensualbaires.com. She is one of the few girls who looks better in person than her photos. She´s on the tall side with a natural D size rack and a firm semi-round ass. This girl is an absolute tiger in the cama who fucks and sucks quite well (and has hum factor). Initially, she was determined to suck me off (I think this was a ploy many girls try to give their overworked pussies a rest), but I regained control of the situation just in time before release. I banged her on my sofa which gives my camera the best angle for capturing the action. Because she was so damn tall, it was a challenge to nail her really hard. She took all I could give her and wanted more. Pressed for time, I had another chica coming over in 30 minutes, I flipped her on her back for some titty fucking. My dick got lost in her oversized melons but suddenly reappeared for a nice release on her face and hair. If it wasn´t for the time factor I would have banged her again with my remaining time. At 150 pesos for 1 hour, she´s a little pricey for an internet girl, but you will get your pesos worth out of this chica.

Another brief note about another internet chica. Several weeks ago I met another monger, Marcoman. He showed me some photos of his recent conquests. He showed me Ivana/Zalma from Platynum.ar. From her photos on the site, she looks like an F-ing playmate. Be warned....she is broke as the day is long. She looks to be in her late 30´s and her best days were well behind her. If you do happen to setup a session with this weathered chica, don´t pay big bucks her, you will be disappointed!!!

late,
Judd

Judd

05-21-03, 23:25

Lastly,
I want to thank all the mongers I met during my time in BA. I thoroughly enjoyed everyone´s company. look forward to meeting up with everyone again in the future.
A special thanks has to go to Jackson whose advice and comraderie made my BA trip an unforgettable experience. I have a strange feeling we will continue to contact one another as we look for more perverse ways to satisfy our sexual pleasures with the chicas! Send me an email when you find a place in BA that sells two way mirrors. LOL
Late,
Judd

Slick1

05-22-03, 01:23

Hey Judd, I would appreciate the email address of your buddy in Cali. Glad to see you made it back in one piece. I don't know how you kept up the pace in BA for so long, or better yet, how you are going to readjust to the pace back home. Hope all is going well and thanks for the info. If you were ever in Cali I would appreciate any words of advice.

pommiebastard

05-22-03, 02:04

Oooooh I'm disappointed - I think I paid Maru a bit more than that. Probably due to my lack of Spanish skills :-( Sorry guys - I know that paying too much is a sin.

Yes I can confirm that she's a tad heftier than her pictures suggest (not that there is anything wrong with that) but her norks are quite something to behold. And she will play with and lick your bottom if prompted 8-}

On the subject of her dental status - it is staggering in it's grimness. It's probably as a result of the foul orange juice she serves in her apartment. We could start a fund to have her teeth fixed up. It can't cost that much in Argentine Pesos can it ??

I still recommend her though - if just for her enthusiasm and giant boobies.

A pom and a bastard.

Originally posted by Judd
Perversions continued....

Next, Roxana setup a session with busty Maru from Platynum.ar. A fellow monger posted about his session with her so I knew she was a real live chica! She has one extremely huge natural rack, and as previously posted needs supreme dental work. Overall, I was a bit disappointed by her appearance as she was a bit chunkier then her photos suggested. On a positive note, she was very enthusiastic and gave quite a good BBBJ. She also gave me an outstanding titty fuck which led to a sublime jerk on her massive mounds and CSL lips. I paid her a total of 130 pesos but she could easily been negotiated down to 100 pesos. If you´re into massive tits, then Maru´s the girl for you. One thing to note. Maru is like many of the other girls I´ve banged in BA who sorta hum when giving me a BJ. Another positive aspect for the girl, she has hum factor!
Judd

Dashing Don

05-22-03, 03:14

Judd, I'm exhausted after reading your posts. What with the pushing, prodding, poking, licking, sucking, banging, multiple positions, anal examinations and explosions. Jesus!! It sounds like every oriifice has been violated. Your girls probably spend the 150 pesos just getting back into shape what with getting the cum out of their hair, nails fixed etc. Anyway, great report. Enjoy Lima. My wife is from there so unfortunately I can't monger as I'm under tight supervision when I'm there.

Slick, I hope you have a good time and make sure to report on Cali. Please give us a feel for the city and its citizens in addition to the usual " found a piece, banged the piece, paid the piece" etc. Oh, and if you do get kidnapped, don't forget to post the ransom note in the Cali section, not on the BA board :)

Great report worth checking out from yesterday on the Cambodia board from a monger who lined up 5 girls simultaneously for $10 apiece. I think the poster's name is "Cambodiapro" but I can't check it now or I'll have to retype this.

In the last 7 months I have mongered in Dom. Rep, Thailand, Philippines and Buenos Aires so now I have to take a three month break and live through the reports. However, I am looking forward to the big trip to Angeles City in the Philippines coming up on or about Friday August 22--through August 31, or thereabouts if anyone would like to go. BTW, Jackson spent a month there last year. Anyone interested, drop me a line at: snafle@hotmail.com

Don

Prokofiev

05-22-03, 04:11

Wow! I plan to be in BA in a month and a half, so I´ve been reading these reports with renewed interest. But it sounds like some of you guys have gone over-the-top. Constant BBBJ and even BBsex and BBanal? And eating these ladies and their asses? Have you guys lost your minds? Any woman who agrees to BBanal is either crazy or desperate and cares nothing about herself and certainly not you. Walking on the edge here.

Plus some of these posts seem to have a nasty feel to them. Like how much can I degrade each Chica. You don´t score extra points by treating them badly. Not following SOMEKIND of safe-sex protocol is bad for the women, bad for you and dangerous for the hobby as a whole. Maybe the way you describe it is worse than what you´re actually doing, but please . . . a little respect for these women is in order. Without that, the hobby quickly degrades into the dog-eat-dog, I-can-treat-you-worse-than-you-can-treat-me BS that we have in the US.

I realize that not everyone is searching for that GFE but let´s not spoil things by going completely crazy. This is NOT a contest. Lighten up on the gas peddle a little and enjoy the ride.
Just my 2 cents . . . Peace . . . -P

Dickhead

05-22-03, 13:24

Bare back anal is the most dangerous sex act there is other than maybe something involving loaded handguns or shoving anthrax up your dick.

OttoGraham

05-22-03, 13:35

I doubt the authenticity of a report claiming BBA with a pro. Perhaps the writer was just getting carried away. However, stranger things have happened.

On the other hand, and without getting too graphic, the principal health threat in such a situation is to the catcher, not the pitcher.

-Uncle Otto

Andres

05-22-03, 14:00

Issue 3: Catto's, Hooks and Salomé

By midnight, I "started my shift" driving towards Suipacha St. Went directly into Catto's.

The place had more girls than back in December. ar$10 the entrance fee with 1 drink. I counted about 20-25, a few of them doable. Several girls approched me, but only one owke my fantasies: A Chilean girl called Cristina., with very huge tits (130 cm or DDD) and nice smile. Her face was far from that of a model and was a little short and chubby, but her attitude and promises (BBBJTC) merited a probe. She asked me ar$100 for a session, and told me that she charges ar$150 to foreigners.

At some point, a foreign fellow entered the bar and started a conversation with me. He knew about WSG and we shared opinions about places. He pointed out that Madaho's is becoming too professional (too mechanical), something that other mongers said before. Do you agree, guys? I plan to go there tonight to check it out...

After a while, and when a Brazilian and a local girl were trying to convince us to take them out, we went to next-door Hooks.

Hooks appeared a little downscaled than in my previous trip. Although there were around 3 girls, very few of them were doable. I wonder where the girls like the Paraguayan Julieta have gone...

My new friend found an interesting Brazilian girl, and I decided to migrate to greener pastures, so I left the area and went to Salomé.

Salomé suffered the "Madaho's Syndrome": Very few girls remained there (less than 15) since most have changed to Madaho's. Therefore, the selection was much worse than 5 months ago. However, my favorite Debora was there.

We chatted for a while and I noticed her very aloof. I doubted about taking her out but, with her usual charming and good attitude, I knew that I would haev a good experience anyway. So I paid for her ar$20 drink and my ar$10 drink and off we went (with her usual fee of ar$100).

At the hotel, we deployed her usual charming: Soft caressing, kissing and a very good BBBJTC. I almost fall slept after such session, but she woke me up a little with good massages.

After that, we chatted and she recognized that she wasn't in the mood that night. That confirmed me how good she is: Despite feeling bad, she provided a good service (although not as enthusiastic as at other times), while other girls would have been plainly rude. She told me that, after 4 years in the business, she felt that "a cycle was about to end".

I left her at Salomé and came back home.

hope this helps,

Andres

HappyGoLucky

05-22-03, 17:00

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prokofiev
"Plus some of these posts seem to have a nasty feel to them. Like how much can I degrade each Chica. You don´t score extra points by treating them badly."

I'll second that!!!!!!!

Prokofiev

05-22-03, 17:16

Otto,

Yes, you are right about the relative risks. But if she is doing BBAnal with you, she is probably doing it with everyone. And what goes around comes around. I´m worried about my health, her health and the hobby in general. Once we abandon all sense of reason, there will be hell to pay. In one sense, I´m glad to read these reports so I know who to AVOID.

As to abusive treatment, that ends up reflecting on all of us. I don´t want to enter a BA club only to find stone-cold, abused and jaded women ready for the battle of the sexes. I can do that here in the US. Attitude is important. But we can´t expect the girls to have a sweet attitude if we treat them like shit. I know that only a few of these posts and posters have this attitude. But somebody has to inject a bit of reason into the proceedings. Too many "Great Post" replies to some pretty negative stuff IMHO.
-P

OttoGraham

05-22-03, 17:44

Pro,

I agree with everything you say. I especially agree with the part where you say you agree with me! ;)

-Uncle Otto

Judd

05-22-03, 18:57

Judd here in response to my apparent controversial posts. I'm sorry, I thought this was a forum about the sexual endeavors of fellow mongers!

Slick1:
I will get that email address out to you shortly. You will like Ramon. The girls really gravitate towards him because he is a little older and they look at him like a father figure. It’s true. Without question, Cali has the most beautiful women in quantity in the world. It’s a Utopia for an ass lover like myself. You will see what I mean as soon as you step foot off the airplane.

Uncle Otto:
Uh, No...The writer did not get carried away as these were accurate reports and not some fantasy out of the penthouse forum. I have no reason to lie about my exploits, and I think Jackson would attest to their validity. I might dress up the post with a few extra adjectives, but make no mistake this shit LOL happened!

ProkoFiev + HappyGoLucky:
I’m sorry these posts have a nasty feel to them but I am a nasty MOFO! If this offends, there is the restaurant thread where you both can engage in pleasant discourse about who offers up the best bife de lomo. Obviously, I was not concerned with the risks of BBanal or if she’s done this with others. I live for the moment. It was a choice I made and I´m willing to live with consequences. Have no fear, there are still plenty of chicas in the clubs who you can pay 200 to 300 pesos per hour to have CBJ, no DATY, no DFK uninspired bang.

I don't consider it degrading to women when this is what they want. If a girl tells me no to one of my sexual wants then I move on to something else. If I'm banging the girl too hard and she wants me to slow down, then I do. If she tells me to stick my finger up her ass, then I will honour her desire. But that´s just me. My point is this, I like to have wild uninhibited sex with the girls. However, If they aren’t into this then I will resort to the traditional boring bang of CBJ, missionary style, a jerk in the condom, and a peck on the cheek goodbye. The latter won’t happen because I will spot the frigid one´s at the club, and POLITELY send them away.

Explanations as to why these girls allowed me to be so nasty with them could be twofold. They apparently are not getting dicked like this from their Argentine counterparts and enjoy not being in control. I think to some degree they are getting caught up in the moment allowing themselves to break free from traditional sexual behaviors. I sound like F-ing Dr. Ruth!

Anyways, my work is done here in BA. I’ve taken great pleasure in knowing there are chicas in BA who share the same desires as I. It was refreshing to hear a chica tell me, “Mas rapido en mi cola!”, if only once. Those I offended can take recourse in knowing…it will be another 4 months or so until I return to BA. Whereby, I will continue my destructive and evil ways with the chicas no doubt casting another black eye on the hobby.

My only regret on this trip being I´ve been sick with the flu these past few days. This has hampered my continued perversions with the Lima chicas. However, some Peruana is going to wake up sore tomorrow!

Toodles,
Judd

Prokofiev

05-22-03, 21:22

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Judd

" I am a nasty MOFO! Obviously, I was not concerned with the risks of BBanal or if she’s done this with others. I live for the moment. "

OK. Cool. Sounds like we agree on this . . .

- P

OttoGraham

05-22-03, 23:16

Originally posted by Judd
Obviously, I was not concerned with the risks of BBanal or if she’s done this with others. I live for the moment. It was a choice I made and I´m willing to live with consequences.

Glad to hear it.

Further posted by Judd
My only regret on this trip being I´ve been sick with the flu these past few days.

Are you sure it's only the flu?

Cheers,
-Uncle Otto

Andres

05-22-03, 23:38

Issue 4: An apartments afternoon

By 2PM, I was free to try a good apartment session.Did a thorough research of the Internet girls that I liked in Clarin, but I could find only one match. Then, I made a list of the girls I wanted to do and called them. These are the results:

- Vanesa (Gemidos): The "psychology student". She quoted ar$100 for 1 hr of CONVENTIONAL sex (she stressed the word conventional), in an apartment located near Cordoba Av and Esmeralda St. 15-5148-2793

- Valeria (Platynum, also Debora of Sensualbaires). No answer. I guess that she is located near downtown. 4372-6606

- Karen (Gemidos). She is located near Olazabal St and Moldes St in Belgrano. ar$50 for 30 minutes and ar$70 for an hour, with additional ar$10 for complete service. Sounds reasonable. 4706-0438

- Karen (masajes, Platynum). She is located near Corrientes Av and Paraná St. ar$50 for 30 minutes and ar$80 for 1 hour. 4371-4009

- Celin (Gemidos). She is located near Callao Av and Posadas St. ar$150 for 1 hour, but complete service. A little pricy, but may worth. 155-134-5892

I went to the apartment of Karen in Belgrano, walking 7 blocks from the Subway stop of Juramento. Strangely, the apartment faces directly the street through a lateral door. A girl greeted me and made me wait inside until another client left the place. The apartment looks really nasty: Dirty, small, with strange and stinky odors and badly lighted (too dim). I was shown 2 girls, none of which were the Karen of the website. I left the place and went to Tribunales by Subway.

There, I tried to locate the other Karen, but she was somewhat busy as there was an answering machine. Damn! I was tired of walking and taking the Subway.

What to do?

I decided to show up at the massage apartment of Esmeralda St, 7 blocks away (the one with phone number 4515-0213, and several girls in Gemidos masajes and Platynum masajes). No hassle with the doormen. As usual, ar$50 the 30 minutes and ar$60 the hour. Surprisingly, the PR girl remembered me after 10 months. There were 7 girls available, of whom one new girl called Mara impacted me (she looks like an Amazon warrior!). I chose Ailen (the same one of Platynum masajes). We went to another apartment in the same building.

Since I had average experiences there, I didn't expected too much. In fact,. Ailen is a beautiful Paraguayan girl (more than in the pictures) and has terrific butts and legs, all well fit. she provided me a good massage (just good) and then commented me her prices: manual release ar$20, BJ ar$30 and FS ar$50. I offered the remaining ar$40 for a FS, to which she agreed. I wanted to bang her from the back in a stand position. Although it felt nice, I perceived a cold attitude in her (which is common in the girls from this place). After that, I took a shower in a very clean bathroom.

Overall, a fair experience for having a massage and some fun.

Hope this helps,

Andres

HappyGoLucky

05-23-03, 12:22

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Judd
ProkoFiev + HappyGoLucky:
"Obviously, I was not concerned with the risks of BBanal or if she’s done this with others. I live for the moment. It was a choice I made and I´m willing to live with consequences."

Judd,
Obviously one of the issues here is whether you WILL live with the consequences. This is not meant as an affront; in fact I have some very good friends who enjoy "alternative" lifestyles and this is a point of constant and well-meaning debate between us. Unfortunately, some of those friends are no longer with us.

"Have no fear, there are still plenty of chicas in the clubs who you can pay 200 to 300 pesos per hour to have CBJ, no DATY, no DFK uninspired bang."

Fortunately, that only happened to me once in Buenos Aires; I found the vast majority of women there warm, inviting, and responsive (maybe I'm lucky, it certainly made me Happy!). Only in the U.S. can I generally count on the "uninspired bang!"

MarcoMan:
What's UP??? Did you make it home okay? We tried to call you a few times but there was no answer. Why don't you post????
-Happy

HappyGoLucky

05-23-03, 12:22

Guillermo

05-23-03, 13:01

Through all the hub-bub and the brou-ha-ha, Andres just keeps plugging along. Our fearless reporter, filing his stories from the front.

Andres, from all of your reports I have read (back to last summer), I take it that there really isn't much out there in the hinterlands of BA for the occassional tourist like myself, limited time and limited Espanol.

For a native like yourself, I can see where cruising around your home town and catching up on the current scene might be worthwhile, but your descriptions of the places you've been and the chicas you've met is certainly not an experience to travel half way around the world for. Unless, of course, one is looking to see just how cheaply one can get laid.

Sounds like it's best to stick to the major clubs in Recoleta and downtown, IMHO.

Thanks for the posts, they really do help. It's just as important to know where not to go.

Thanks,

Guillermo

OttoGraham

05-23-03, 13:51

Originally posted by Guillermo
Sounds like it's best to stick to the major clubs in Recoleta and downtown, IMHO.

Let me second the appreciation of Andres' recent posts.

Guillermo, don't sell the apartment scene short. It can be the source of not-too-expensive but enjoyable afternoons. Certainly I would recommend going to a good apartment over randomly selecting a girl off the internet based upon possibly misleading photos. In the apartments, you can see flesh on the hoof, gives you a chance to assess them that you don't have with internet or Clarin advertisement section girls.

-Uncle Otto

Andres

05-23-03, 14:56

Issue 5: Madaho's

I went to Madaho's at 1AM. ar$20 the entrance,1 drink included (as usual).

The place is really a candy store: About 100 girls, of all the sizes, colors, nationalities and attributes that you could imagine. 30-40% of them are doable, and 10-20% are really gorgeous. Most girls charge ar$150-200 to locals and ar$150-300 to visitors (I guess that sometimes you may get one for ar$100, but it doesn't seem to be the rule). I chatted with several of them:

- Enilse, a girl from the Chaco province with small tits but round, soft butts (she wore ragged jeans). Nice personality, but not a stunner, though.

- Hamida, a cuban girl with HUGE breasts. She seems to be a kind of "queen" of the place. Although not a perfect body, her slim legs and huge tits wrapped in a short pink body and high heels made her a copy of Jessica Rabbit. when she approached me, I saw a less-than- perfect face. She qoted me ar$200 and told me to wait for her.

- A crazy girl from the Corrientes province, wearing discrete clothes. She started taking about spirituality (go figure... Madaho's as a place to talk about spirituality!) and then deploying her language abilities (French, English, Italian, etc). I had to ignore her due to her endless disgressions.

Suddenly, I saw the same monger thant I met yesterday at Cattos. He wanted to visit Blandish, so we planned to go there in a while. Several groups of 2 girls approached us and tried to cling on us, but we were decided to leave the place alone. Well...almost decided.

At some point, my friend spotted a girl that he wanted to do, called Rocio, with a girl he already did called Azul, and asked me if I would join him to a "party" in his apartment. Never did it before, but there is always a first time. So the girls arranged ar$200 each and off we went.

Rocio is a petite but exuberant girl. About 5"2', implants 9she should have CCC cups), very nice butts, slim waist and well shaped legs. Her cons is that she talks too much. OTOH, Azul is taller, has a bigger nose (but seductive), small tits and a good attitude.

We chatted for a while in his apartment, since girls are usually interested in my descriptions of the American women. You have to hear the distorted image they got from the average American woman. They think that US women usually go wild, are uncomplicated and look like baywatch actresses. LOL.

At some point, my friend took Azul, so I was left with Rocio. I can certify by notary that this girl has experience and knows to apply it: One of the best CBJ I received, a great experience on top, DFK and nice doggie. Although her butts makes for a "call of duty", she is not into anal. Rocio can wake up a dead body, for sure. I was worried since, when we left the place, Rocio said to a returning girl "ya volvemos" (we are coming back soon), which led me to think that they could be cold clock watchers.

After the session, she told me that she took courses of massages for 2 years, so I asked to apply them to me. GREAT massages.

Unfortunately, as we say in Argentina, "time is cruel", so the girls had to leave before getting fined by the Madaho's managers. I kept chatting with my new friend and went back home by 5 AM.

Briefly, I guess that Madaho's atmosphere is really very professional, but you may have outstanding experiences from time to time.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Andres

05-23-03, 15:06

Respect to the apartments discussion:

I guess that it is true that a visit to BA mainly for the apartments scene isn't worth for the tourist with limited time and Spanish skills. However, I heard that some apartments such as the one of Santa Fe 1707 have been reported as very aceptable, so it can be considered a sure thing.

I estimate that 25-50% of the apartments and girls merit a try, something that a long-term tourist who pours hundreds of pesos can afford, but not the one who have less than 10 nights available.

Andres

Guillermo

05-23-03, 15:23

I understand that there are a few good private apartments, and I have taken note of them. I will certainly give them a try when I am there, particularly since I am not much of a night owl. But only the ones that have received good reviews. Reading Andres' reports it seems that there aren't a whole lot of "gems" to be found hidden out there off the beaten track.

If the Gods are listening. . . a new topic for posting our experiences at private apartments might be worthwhile. I understand that most mongers will not want to expose their favorite "cielito" to the great unwashed, but it can't hurt to report on the ones that we already know about.

Thanks,

Guillermo

Judd

05-23-03, 20:40

Uncle Otto:
I´m beginning to wonder myself since I´ve been sick for 5 days.
If you see me on the news in a gown trying flee out of hospital room window, then you´ll know God has a real sick sense of humor!

Andres:
Rocio has an absolutely incredible body! I really enjoyed my time with her. I wish I´d have met her at the beginning of my trip instead of my last day.
I agree with you about the chica named Hamida. I bumped into them, I mean her, last week and was turned off by her attitude. I was at the bar and moved a chair to make it easier for her to get in. She said, "Oh, so you think fat, huh". I resisted making my usual smart ass comment (Yes, you are fat and also have good case of acne!) that gets me slapped in situations like that. Talking to Jackson about her, he doesn´t know of anyone whose had a session with her. Do you know of anyone whose been with her?

Just to let everyone know...I will be sending Jackson the 30 or so photos I was able to shoot of the girls I banged on the trip to BA. I have a couple of really nice photos of Rocio. Look for them in a couple weeks.

Late,
Judd

Saint

05-24-03, 05:12

I haven't posted in a while but I thought I'd offer a quick update on the scene here. To be honest it has changed ALOT in the past few months since I was here. I knew there were definitely hotties moving away when they were all telling me it when I email with them.

First of all the weather is nice today. I was worried because while I was in Rio I kept running into guys that told me it was raining over a week in BA. Not the case with me. Today was sunny and brisk but didn't need a jacket. Was in the low 60's. Tonight was in the low 50's.

Exchange rate today at several places including Metropolis near Etoile was 2.84 today. I exchanged a few hundred dollars but it was kind of annoying waiting in line a LONG time. There is another exchange place down the street on Quintanna before the Disco store with the same rate today and no line.

I met up with Mayri and had a nice lunch at Sarki's in Recoleta near the Four Seasons Hotel. I think Andres recommended it and I thank him. It was a good choice with good service. Was good seeing Mayri again. I still think she is the best option for a monger or anyone else needing an apartment or hotel. (mayra@argentinago.com).

Met up with UWPhoto, Leo, Hecktor (from another board). We started early. We checked out the apartment scene at Santa Fe 1707 and was sad to say the selection was grim. Only 6 girls were there with none of them doable by most mongers I know.

Obviously it is hit or MISS so we went to Cutty Sark. Another miss. Granted we started out really early in the night but still. Checked out some place called Periplo which Leo wanted to go to. Sucked. Didn't even sit down.

We dicided we better eat so we head into some restaurant downtown. It looked nice but we discovered the prices were higher than the Recoleta restaurants and the quality of food came no where close. I'd avoid it. Hopefully one of my partners in crime will remember the name of it.

Anyway we do a few more things that don't work. We start our night at Playwoman. WRONG! This place has gone so far down hill but I guess it's like watching your pet dog get ran over by a car. Part of you can't believe it. You don't want to look but you do just to make sure there is any hope of it surviving. Well I think it's safe to say things aren't improving anytime soon. Although I did talk to my favorite waitress there Mariella. She knew a few of the trips I took which I was surprised about. Then she told me she asks Jackson about me and one time he told her I was in Montreal so she was proud that she knew that fact. We had coupons for 2nd drink free so we ended up paying the rate of 20 pesos per drink. I believe the short term bar fine is still 2 drinks and the all night bar fine is 5 drinks or 100 pesos. We left after giving Mariella a VERY nice tip. Definitely ask for her if you can and tip her if the service is good. She is a very honest waitress. Talent sucks so we left.

Then we went to Hook's. Downtown. This place still isn't my favorite. I didn't really see anyone with potential. Maybe one or two but nothing to get all excited about. I actually contemplated going in the bathroom and crying. :'( We hung out a while, checked the scene out at the other places around and then I told them I'm going back to Recoleta. We went to Madaho and the scene there while being more lively didn't have what I was looking for. There were plenty of girls but also plenty of dudes too. The ratio looked equal..maybe even more dudes.

The funny thing was not a whole lot of guys were pulling girls out of this place. The entrance is 20 pesos per person now. The girls drinks are 35 pesos each but only a one drink exit fee. I talked to this girl with a good body and cute face. She was totally cool and nice but asked for 400 pesos at first for a 2 hour session. I kept asking her if she was sick then drunk???? She laughed. She would counter with.."pero soy buena en la cama". Where I would respond, "i'm great in bed too..." She just cracked up. She then counted with 300 pesos. Then I said 200 and she said no. She stuck to 300 for a while. I threw out 200 pesos which I think should be the max for a short term session. She then intelligentely said, "200 pesos but 50 peso tip if you are completely satisfied". Deal.

I like that strategy anyway. Sometimes I offer that deal with girls. Gives them that incentive to get it. She was great in bed. Her downsides are her skin isn't as great as I thought. You can't see it in the club...it is hidden with makeup. Also, she has a boobjob. She let me feel them and swore they were real in the club but after inspecting they are silicone. Which is ok but would have preferred natural. She attemped CBJ but I hinted I wouldn't be TOTALLY satisfied with Covered and then she laughed and didn't. We negotiated 2 hours and she stayed the 2 hours. She just left now.

A few other guys I'm with are getting quoted higher prices too. Some hotties have definitely left BA. This was be a slow time of year or just a totally different scene now. I was here for 2 weeks last year this time and it was amazing. If tonight was any indication for tomorrow then I will throw out the phrase I've been using the last 5 months, "God Bless Brazil".

Hopefully it is better tomorrow. I am gonna try some internet girls and apartments tomorrow. Then having my amigos over for my fiesta at my apartment and then dinner out at a swanky place, followed by hopefully a hot girl with a hot girl from a club. Christ...I might have to go to Black's to get what I want.

Saint

drgn

05-24-03, 13:24

Hey guys,

It has definitely been a while since I've posted. But, as of Monday morning, I'll be back BA. Nice to know that both Saint and Jackson will be in town. Drinks guys?
For the record, I am disappointed to hear that things have taken a turn for the worse...I had hoped it would be at least another year before that happened. Oh, well.
Also, I wanted to throw in my 2 cents worth about Emily from Brazil. Last fall I posted about a girl (Emily) who was showing me some guys home address, business card and personal info. and, I can't help but wonder if that was your info, Saint. And, yes, she did have a weird panic attack. Strange bird.
I'm still trying to get an apartment on extremely short notice (just made the decision yesterday to fly down)...so if anyone has any ideas...please post.

Drgn

Exon123

05-24-03, 14:18

Saint --- Say it aint so --- Ive just booked a two week stay and now I read that the action and quality have taken a turn for the worst --- Whats the airfair from B.A. to Rio ? --- And can I get a Visa for Brazil in Buenos Aires ? --- Im flexable except for a five day block of time Ive committed to rent Jacksons appartment --- This is horrible news --- EXON

ChicagoBoy23

05-24-03, 14:47

Action in St. Petersburg, Russia is still outstanding

However flights are not as convenient and you do need a visa

Saint

05-24-03, 17:16

Hey guys. Don't get too worried. There is still action here but it just isn't the same. Maybe I'm also jaded from visiting Rio where there is endless action there 24/7. I still prefer the city of Buenos Aires but Brazil definitely has an edge with the termas.

Drgn, I don't know if that was my information or not. I sure hope not. I do know that she stole my business card from my luggage tag so everyone should be careful with personal information. I saw her in Madaho's last night but I ignored her and didn't even say hi. I'm not sure of your budget but my premium apartment is available on Libertad next week. Check it out at www.apartmentsba.com. Every dude so far has loved the place.

Unfortunately I have to cut this trip short and I'm leaving soon so I won't be able to hook up with you for drinks. I think Jackson is out of town too. Bummer I missed him but he might be returning next week.

I had bad luck calling Platynum girls today. 0/6 so I'm gonna check out some apartment action soon with a buddy then hit the clubs tonight. I'll report if tonight is any better. I sure hope so. Today is a bit chillier but I like it. Beautiful day. The exchange rate slipped a bit to 2.80 today.

Yes, you can get your visa for Brazil here in BA. In fact, I did that. It only took 2 days and was 402 pesos and it was for a 5 year visa. I'm putting it to good use. Daily non-stop flights to BA on Aerolineas Argentina and Varig. I've flown it several times. Email Mayri and she can get you tickets. They usually run from $250 US to $375 US. Good luck.

Exon123

05-24-03, 19:20

Ok --- Thats better Saint --- The way you were posting it looked that B.A. had run out of beatuiful women and that just not possible --- But I do know of some hard core pro's that have taken off for richer pastures --- Namely Mexico & the USA --- But thease are hard core chica's that Im really not interested in --- Anyway we look forward to your next report and the action --- See you next week if your going to be around --- Exon

JPF

05-24-03, 20:34

Re: Hamida from Madahoes

(She spelled her name as Hamady for me, by the way)

I had a session with her. It cost me 250pesos and she originally said that was for an hour but I negotiated it up to 2 hours and it was my last night in town so I didn't fight over the 50 pesos that was over the 200 peso "limit".

It was definitely not GFE but she was very good in bed. CBJ which I do not object to but might bother some. I found her friendly and interesting to talk to after she got comfortable. And her body is really fine. Overall, I rate it a good experience.

JamesBond69

05-24-03, 23:14

Originally posted by saint
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Saint,

Last time you were in BA the dollar was at 3.55 pesos to one dollar.

Now it's at 2.80 to one dollar.

What has been the effect of the dollars decline on prices, with chicas and overall?

JustGotBack

05-25-03, 02:05

Originally posted by jamesbond69
Saint,

Last time you were in BA the dollar was at 3.55 pesos to one dollar.

Now it's at 2.80 to one dollar.

What has been the effect of the dollars decline on prices, with chicas and overall?

I'll take a stab at that. During one of the times I was there last year, it was at 3.70. When I was there a couple of months back, it had just broken 3.00. They girls themselves still ask about the same. But it's more expensive now in real terms because the dollar has dropped so much. In addition, the restaurants I go to have also raised their prices. So it's a double whammy with them. Lower dollar, higher peso prices. A bunch of the restaurants that I go to that had Spanish only menus have switched over to Spanish/English bilingual menus. The effect of being overrun with tourists since English is the universal language now.

I'll also chime in on the quality of the girls. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The quality has definitely taken a nose dive in the last year or so. I fear the golden age of BA has come and gone.

Judd

05-25-03, 03:17

JPF:
Thanks for the info on Hamady. Will probably steer clear of her the next time I´m in BA. Unless I could get her to do a Wal-Mart Rollback to 150.

Traveler0099:
Didn´t remember your handle on the WSG. I read your post on the hotel thread. Once you described yourself as 6´5 and was with one chica while in BA...I know that dude! Ran into your chica over at Playwoman last week. She´s still singing your praises. Shoot her an email if you haven´t already done so (she misses you). Must have been damn good to spend all week with her.
Good to have met you.

Slick1:
I don´t have your email address. I sent my buddy Ramon´s email you wanted to B69. I asked him to forward it to you. I will give you the phone number of the hotel I stayed at in Cali when I return to the states next week. It´s a nice and centrally located. The staff is incredibly friendly and are chica friendly. On some nights, the staff would get out a boombox, mix some drinks, and start partying in the lobby. The suite´s run about 35us a night. It might be more expensive now that so many Americans are booking there. If you want something a little more posh, then the Hotel Intercontinental is Cali´s Etoile equivalent. Room there will set you back about $100 bucks a night. Have fun!

Late,
Judd

Saint

05-25-03, 04:11

It's 3 AM here in Buenos Aires and I'm sorry to report I came home alone. This has to be one of the first times ever where I hit the club circuit and came home alone. The highlight of my evening was hanging out at my party with my amigos and having dinner in Palermo Hollywood with the gang. There were about 17 of us including Moondog, Ezy, UWPhoto, Hector, Andres, Mayri, Leo, Roxanna, Adrianna (webmistress of www.platynum.com.ar and www.escorts-argentina.com.ar) and a few dates and other dudes I never met before.

We hit some normal club and then Leo and I went to Madaho's and it was totally dead. Stopped by Solid Gold, Affaire and they were empty too. Typically Saturday nights aren't that good but tonight was the worse night I've ever seen. I stopped by Black's and it was pathetic. At least they lowered the cover to 20 pesos which included one drink. I was curious about the fee for girl's drinks. The first waitress wouldn't give me a straight answer and then I asked this girl that I've seen before. She remembered me. She told me the drinks are anywhere from 50 pesos to 80 pesos each but now there is only a one drink minimum exit fee. Maybe Black's is learning to lower their prices to gain more clients. In any event, Black's also sucked. Most of the girls there were older and the guys easily outnumbered the girls.

I went to a few apartments today with a buddy. We went to Santa Fe 1707 yesterday and it was horrible. Today we tried again and was horrible again so we left and this time the madam got pissed and basically told us to hurry up and leave as we were walking out the door. We tried Bonne Femme also on Santa Fe. www.bonnefemme.com.ar The apartment was nicer and they asked if we wanted drinks. They only had 4 girls. They were nothing special but we were both ready for a session so we partook. I had a decent session but my buddy hated his and vowed never to return. The interesting thing is the girl I saw told me that the girls there can refuse to see a guy if she doesn't like him. She told me that she often times turns down guys if they are (1) ugly, (2) fat or (3) disgusting or all of the above.

It's probably worth a try to see if you like it. You are under no obligation to stay. Their # is 4826-2859. It was 150 pesos for one hour and 200 pesos for 1 hour and 15 minutes but "complete" service which I'm not into anyway.

I don't care what anyone says.... The hotter girls definitely have moved on to greener pastures or at least they weren't around the past few days. I even tried calling internet girls today and was 0/8 which is rare. I really hope it turns around. The city is still beautiful and the people here are amazingly kind and generous. I love the city more than ever but hobby wise it just isn't the same. Also, the prices have creeped up. Many girls must have wised up because many are asking or demanding for higher prices which is disappointing. My buddy UWPhoto is talking about flying to Rio for just one night before he leaves.

Even girls like Sandy from Escorts-Argentina.com who was making a small fortune here is gone. She has been gone for a few months now. When I asked Adrianna tonight why her picture is still on the site she told me she is hoping she comes back. Many girls from Platynum I called today had disconnected phone numbers.

The last time I was here the exchange rate was 3.25. As other posters have mentioned, not only is it more expensive because of the exchange rate but many restaurants and other places have raised their prices so yes there is a "double whammy" effect. Still restaurants are the best bargain around. I'd strongly recommend coming to enjoy the city too. The last few trips I've actually taken time to do the tourist thing and see more of Rio and Buenos Aires. It's a beautiful place. Use Roxanna for girls but also see if you can utilize her for trips around the city. She is invaluable when it comes to things like this and her English is perfect. Email: roxanainba@gmail.com Cell Phone: 15-5103-3905

The city is still cheap by all standards. Taxi's are still cheap, there are plenty of excellent restaurants, the city is safe and there are still girls here but just not as many and the type I like as before. Good luck all.

Saint

JamesBond69

05-25-03, 04:13

I'll also chime in on the quality of the girls. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The quality has definitely taken a nose dive in the last year or so. I fear the golden age of BA has come and gone. [/i]

That's a real shame. Menus in English now!!!

Last year in November 2002 everything was so inexpensive in BA it was almost like free compared to where I live in NYC, the most expensive city in the USA. And the chicas were first rate.

Oh well. I will still go back. There is something about BA - it's sophistication, the quality of the people, their attitude toward life - that is difficult to explain unless you've been there.

Cheap sex is only a part of it for me (well of course a great part, as I am after all a serious monger!) but not everything. Really!!!

Exon123

05-25-03, 12:05

Saint --- What a Bummer, Your breaking my heart --- I guess Capitalism is alive and well in Buenos Aires --- And many of the quality Chicias have turned out to be just garden variety Republicans and moved on to greener pastures in Europe, Mexico & the USA --- Must be that their local Argentine customers can't afford them any more --- SHIT --- My tickets for next weeks trip arrived in the mail yesterday, what am I gona do ? --- Say it Ain't So Saint --- Exon

DownBA

05-25-03, 12:26

With all due respect to Saint and anybody else that's fretting about BA, you guys have hardly scatched the surface of opportunity with the places you're reporting about here. It may be that some of the conditions have changed temporarily with lots of girls going to different countries but Argentina's got a farm system as deep as the Atlantic...every day you'll see new girls coming up to the major leagues. Also and again with all due respect to Saint, there's a limit to the number of places that Saint or anybody else can hit in a day so I'm sure that if you mongers keep playing the law of probability that you're not going to come up empty handed.

And last but not least, I've been told by very reliable sources, namely a good Argentinian friend, that Cordoba's got some of the very best chicas in apartments at prices that make the BA scene look astronomical and Cordoba's only a short plane flight from BA.

If anybody wants to email me privately I'll share some info about the "servicio traffic" that's going on in Tucuman, also a relatively short flight from BA, where you can have a party with 8 chicas in your apartment for prices that would make Evita spin in her mausoleum. Email me at lllllnnnnn@aol.com if interested. DownBA

Guillermo

05-25-03, 12:58

My handy-dandy Lonely Planet guidebook lists May 25th as a holiday in Buenos Aires. . . "Revolucion de Mayo". Haven't a clue as to the magnitude of this holiday, but maybe it's the equivalent of our Memorial day weekend, which might explain the dirth of chicas right now.

Yes, it's pretty clear that some of the hottest chicas have left. Ironically, you have about as much chance of meeting a hot Argentine chica in Miami as you do in Buenos Aires. I think I'd rather visit BA.

OTOH, I subscribed to the Platynum newsletter. I get emails 3 or 4 times a week with pictures of new chicas on the website. Between Platynum and Escortsbaires, it seems as if there are a dozen new chicas on the website each week.

There seems to be no shortage of replacements.

Guillermo

Saint

05-25-03, 13:25

Hey amigos. I'm in no way saying not to come down to BA. In fact, I'd like more people to come down. The city is wonderful. As always I'm posting my opinions. I'm just one normal guy and I'm being honest. No matter what..... it's clear to see that the talent is different here. Doesn't matter if I am only scratching the surface. My point is, as little as a few months ago you didn't need to scour the surface to find hotties. They were everywhere. Even the apartments I use to go to had hotties. Not the case anymore to the ones I went to.

There are definitely still girls down here for the taking. Hell, I saw some pictures that Ezy took of a Clarin or some other newspaper. She was very pretty and was 80 pesos for an hour. I tried calling her yesterday but guess what? Not there. Guys should definitely still come down to Buenos Aires. It's a world class city full of wonderful people. Also, sometimes I forget that some guys don't go at the same pace as others. Oh well. You know I'll be back in BA. It's still my favorite city. Good luck.

Life is still good.

OttoGraham

05-25-03, 13:32

With all due respect to my friend Saint, I think he is being something of a "Chicken Little" with his "the sky is falling posts."

Everybody's first time in Buenos Aires constitutes an absolute shock and overwhelms your senses, sexual and otherwise. After two or three or four trips it may seem more routine and thus less "outstanding."

I've been there half a dozen times in the last year, and I've detected no dropoff in the "quality" of chicas. Indeed, in this respect my last trip in April, may well have been my best trip yet.

Saint's current love is Brazil, which is great. However, for an inexperienced traveler, I think that destination presents a whole raft of threats that you'll never encounter in Argentina.

No disrespect here, fellows, to those who have posted a contrary opinion. But I think you're just getting used to the place more than you were on your first trip. (Plus as has been pointed out, this IS a holiday weekend down there, there is definitely less going on during holiday weekends, as I also noticed on my Easter weekend trip. I bet Christmas and New Year's week will be slower too!)

-Uncle Otto

TicToc

05-25-03, 17:05

Thanks Otto for your response.

I am taking your advice and have been in contact with the lovely (at least from the phone voice) Roxana, who is doing her best to fix me up for the first couple of days that I will be there.

Still, I will have a few nights free if anyone wants to get together for a round or two.

Thanks again to all for the info that you post and to Jackson for a great site.

JustGotBack

05-26-03, 02:13

While I don't think the sky is falling. In my opinion, the quality has definitely gone down. I wouldn't cancel your trip to BA just yet. It's still a great place. I've been there once every couple of months for over a year. I still look forward to going back. For me it's the sum of the experience. I love the city itself and the people who live there. I've thought often about moving there for a year or two. But if you're here solely for the girls, I'd go elsewhere. To me, it's nothing really special anymore. It's not that much of a value anymore. Before I would just go to one club and pick a girl for the night. Now I have to go to 3 or 4 before I find one that is doable. Add that to the girls fee, the bar fees, etc, etc and it's no longer that cheap. You can get far higher quality for about the same price in Europe.

If you're from the worse place for mongering in the world like me, the United States, than BA will seem like heaven. But if you've been around to many of the other places in the world, it just blends into the crowd.

MoonDog

05-26-03, 09:09

Saint,

It was a great time at dinner with our group. As you know, Fridays and Saturdays are not the best for selection in BA, and many of the girls have left BA for greener pastures. Some of the girls are in Mexico City earning 10,000-15,000 U.S. dollars per month. Many are in Miami, Cancun, and two just left for Madrid. I know at least 30 girls who I knew over the past few years that are not now in BA. That being said, there are still very many beautiful girls in BA, and there always will be.

Times are changing for the Cafes as well. Whereas Orleans and Exedra used to be best during daytime business hours, now the qauality has gone way up around the midnight to 2:00 a.m. time frame. Last Friday night at 1:00 a.m., there were 35-40 girls in Exedra Cafe, and it seems to be this way on other Friday nights as well. YMMV, but it is worth taking a look.

Moondog

Balul

05-26-03, 10:58

Hi guys,

first I like to congratulate you for the great work you are doing in this forum, it was a pleasure to read all the reports (and I have read the whole 158 pages in the last 5 days!).

Second, I'll be in Bs As next week, and I have some questions. I'm sorry if some of the info for my questions was already written, but after 158 pages, I can't rememeber everything...:

1. I understand that in most clubs, you take the girl back to your hotel. Are there any clubs with private rooms in them? (I'll probably be with a friend, who will want to sleep quietly in the hotel...).

2. Are there any SW in the city? I know they are low level, but sometimes I like to feel like I tour the city and watching girls in the same time. Are there still girls in Plaza Flores, Constitucion and De- Julio street?

Thanks!

Andres

05-26-03, 17:28

Issue 6: Local monger meeting and Catto's.

By Friday midnight, I had the delightful opportunity of meeting some personalities of the local mongering scene (webpage administrators, mongers, girls). We gathered at Exedra (Carlos Pellegrini St and Cordoba Av) and chatted for 2 or 3 hours. These guys and girls were even smarter than I thought. I will meet them again when I return to BA.

Exedra appears to be the "Nightly Orleans": Around 20-25 girls, of which half are well above 30 y/o, but a few (perhaps 5-7) merit a thorough Gynecological research. I guess that the place is too exposed for a local monger, but it may be OK for a visitor.

After the meeting, I walked a couple of blocks and went into Catto's. I did so with the idea of changing an ar$100 bill and assessing the scene. One girl that I saw before (called Cristina, from Chile) stuck to me as if I were the last Coca Cola in the Sahara. She repeated the promises of my last visit (whatever I wanted, massage, etc). She is not very beautiful (a little bit chubby, not an hourglass shape and not the best face around), but has huge tits. She convinced me and we went to the Tres Sargentos St Hotel.

There, she provided one of the best BBBJTC I ever had, plus a massage with oil, cremes and all that stuff. Very, very good. After that, she continued with BBBJ until I cried "I'm empty, cannot continue". This girl was very attentive. ar$100 for her, ar$40 for the hotel, ar$10 for the 2 taxi trips and ar$30 for my drink and bar fee.

I was so tired that I slept until noon.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Andres

05-26-03, 17:51

Issue 7 (final): International monger meeting and Affaire

On Saturday 8 PM, I met several participants of this forum for dinner. It was very exciting to see the faces behind the nicknames, the real people that nurtured this forum with their experiences and made of it a lively message board. Some of them were in couples, some others alone and ready for later action in the clubs scene.

Chapter apart was meeting 2 great girls: Roxana and Mayra. You were right on the nail, guys. These ladies are worth to be known. They are helpful and funny, and added a particular spice to the dinner.

We discussed several topics, most of which are the ones that appear in this board: The decrease in quality of BA girls, the Rio vs BA comparisons, particular experiences of some mongers, etc.

After the dinner (by the way, we tried Dominga in Palermo Hollywood, very good food and ambience) some of us went to Deep Blue (sp?) a bar just across Madaho's. We dance very old tunes and than went to New Port.

Long time that I didn't go to New Port, so I cannot compare with other recent Saturday nights. About 10 girls, some of them doable, but with more plastic than an economy car for rent at a low season. Again, we danced some Brazilian music. At 3PM, I decided that it was time for my last experience of this trip, so I went to Pueyrredon Affaire.

ar$15 the entrance and 17 girls inside. None of them a cutie, but 2 or 3 were doable. I approached a tall brunette girl called Marcela, She has nice boobs (later fund to be implants) and nice smile. She warned me "all covered", to which I agreed. After paying ar$70 for the 30 minutes session, we went upstairs.

After taking out the clothes, I perceived a slightly chubbier body, full of tatooes. There, she provided an average CBJ and then we did some doggie and missionary styles. After that, she provided a fair massage and we chatted for a while. Nothing memorable but not a bad experience, though.

Hope this helps.

Andres

Andres

05-26-03, 18:24

Originally posted by Balul
Hi guys,

first I like to congratulate you for the great work you are doing in this forum, it was a pleasure to read all the reports (and I have read the whole 158 pages in the last 5 days!).

Second, I'll be in Bs As next week, and I have some questions. I'm sorry if some of the info for my questions was already written, but after 158 pages, I can't rememeber everything...:

1. I understand that in most clubs, you take the girl back to your hotel. Are there any clubs with private rooms in them? (I'll probably be with a friend, who will want to sleep quietly in the hotel...).

2. Are there any SW in the city? I know they are low level, but sometimes I like to feel like I tour the city and watching girls in the same time. Are there still girls in Plaza Flores, Constitucion and De- Julio street?

Thanks!
1) Pueyrredon Affaire, Top Secret, Estilo Nuevo and most of the Flores heighborhood places have rooms either within the facilities or contiguous. You should niotice that these places work in a limited timeframe (30 to 60 minutes the session) so you cannot expect a TLN experience there. Also, these rooms are clean but not very luxury, so expect small, cublicle-style rooms with no jacuzzy or TV set.

2) There are many SWs but their quality usually isn't worth and their attitudes mey be very rude for a nice experience (they have to take care of themselves and so they react badly for anything they don't like). Look at my reviews.

Hope this helps,

Andres

By Email

05-27-03, 01:23

Hi fellow mongers,

This is my first time posting on the site, although I have been a reader for quite a while. I just returned from Buenos Aires yesterday, and wanted to share my experiences. It was my first trip to South America and thanks to the hospitality of Roxana, Mayri, and Jackson, it was a great time. Everything that I had read about Argentina is definitely true, it truly is paradise on Earth. Beautiful women, great restaurants, museums, everything to make a great vacation for incredibly low prices.

Since it was my first trip, I relied extensively on Mayri and Roxana for my arrangements. Both are beautiful young ladies who speak fluent English and are great fun to be around. Relying on Mayri's recommendation I chose to stay at the Etoile in the diplomatic suites. Great bargain for $198 pesos per night $239 with the 21% value added tax. Huge room with Jacuzzi tub (the ladies loved it), mini bar, two sitting areas, and a great included breakfast buffet every morning.

The only improvement I would have liked to see would have been a king size bed. As far as location goes, it was perfect. Walking distance to many restaurants, the museum, the Recoleta Cemetery, the cultural center and of course several clubs including Affairs, Mahados and Playgirls. They never gave me any problems with the girls either, except to have them register at the desk.

For my arrival, I had arranged with Mayri for a pickup at the airport for $55 pesos. the driver was waiting for me and the transfer took about 45 minutes. I had arrived at 9 in the morning and had just enough time for a quick nap before meeting Roxana for a great 3 to 4 hour tour of the city. I highly recommend this tour as a great way to get oriented with the city.

For that night I had had Roxana arrange a date for me with Hamira from Platnym Escorts. She arrived at the room at 9PM, right on time. A stunning Spanish beauty with great natural breasts. We went to dinner at Porto Madaro and she was fun company regardless of the language barrier. She did speak minimal English. On the way back to the hotel we held hands and cuddled. The sex was all right, but nothing inspired. Covered BJ as agreed to before hand. Also she left at 3 AM, even though the date was supposed to be all night. Still fantastic for $200 US by the standards in the states, but the worst of the girls I encountered.

The second night I met with Jackson and a couple of other mongers to go to the clubs. Jackson's apartment by the way is very nice and in a great location as well, I will definitely see if it available for rental on my next trip. We went first to Hooks, where there was probably about 15 girls and ourselves. They said it was slow, but for a first timer it was fantastic. They were leaving to go to another club, but I was hooked by pretty blonde Brazilian girl named Marianna. Incredible body, 24 years old with a one year old son. With the help of my fellows I managed to work a deal with her. 300 pesos for 3 hours. Absolutely incredible sex,my first time with a Brazilian.

The following day I decided to check out Cafe Orleans. I arrived about 2 PM and there was myself, the bartender, and 7 or 8 girls trying to make eye contact with me. Half of them were too old for me, but there were 3 nice looking ones. I ended up leaving with a pretty 27 year old named Poula (I thought to begin with that she was only 21 or 22) Very nice girl I ended up spending the next
two nights with. Even went to her mom's house where she lived to drink matte. She moved into the hotel with me. I gave her 600 pesos for 2 nights. Two days later I was ready to get rid of her so I could see more of the town, but couldn't communicate it to her. Thank goodness Roxana called and was able to translate.

I was ready for a girl that spoke English, so Roxane recommended Libia from Argentina Private. Not only did she speak fluent English, but was fun and pretty. My best experience of the trip.

The following day, I took a one day tour to Montevideo, Uruguay with Roxane. Mayri had arranged the trip for us and it was very nice. It takes about 2.5 hours on the hovercraft each way. For my final night, I decided to spend it again with Libia. A great way to finish up.

In conclusion, BA is fantastic and I highly recommend the services of Roxana and Mayri. I will be back again as soon as possible, maybe around January.

Balul

05-27-03, 21:20

Thanks Andres,

I don't know how I missed your excellent post about the SWs tour you did (and Dickhead's posts as well).

Now I realy know everything about Bs As thanks to everybody here, and in 4 days I'm going to be in heaven - football, steaks and girls, it doesn't get any better than this :-)

Finally I'll be able to contribute to this forum and not only reading it!

ElMatador

05-28-03, 02:16

I hope this is not off topic but i noticed that many of you guys like to take pictures of the girls you spend time with. I recently decided to do the same thing, i used one of those one time used cameras. The problem came when i took it to Walmart photo lab to get it develop. The did not print any pictures that had nudity in them. Do you guys know of anyways to get the nudity related pictures print. What do you guys do when you take your pictures. Any help will be greatly aprecitaed guys.

Slick1

05-28-03, 02:19

Great to see another positive post about BA. I knew after having left there only 3 weeks ago and having the time of my life, things couldn't have slipped that bad. Saint, you lead a charmed life alternating so frequently between BA and Rio and I'm envious, but maybe after feasting on prime bife de lomo and Rodizio so often, and with such gusto, it all starts to look just like plain old carne after awhile. For the rest of us, if you just compare BA with good old hometown USA, I guarantee your time will be spent with a smile plastered on your face.

By the way, just got back from a short visit to Cali, Colombia on Monday after a short 4 day adventure. Vastly different experience which I am posting about on the Cali board. I'm not telling you to buck the state dept. warnings and make your reservations but there is more to the people of Colombia that we just don't hear about often.

Hey Judd, thanks for the email address but I did not recieve it until my last day there. Maybe next time I will meet Ramon.

JamesBond69

05-28-03, 05:13

Originally posted by slick1
Great to see another positive post about BA. I knew after having left there only 3 weeks ago and having the time of my life, things couldn't have slipped that bad. .

Yeah. I agree. It might have gotten a bit more expensive - the dollar is not what it was - but still it's Buenos Aires, a wonderfull place, chicas and all the jazz. I can't understand Sain'ts recent posts.

Anyone will have a great time in BA and yes Mayri and Roxana are truly great to hang with. You couldn't do better. This is not Kansas, amigo.

Boogie Nights

05-28-03, 05:24

Hey Jud,

If you get this msg. I like to pass my email address to you (if Jackson permits this). Dunno if youre still at Peru or what not, 'cause I'd like to take a trip there. Dont have any time restrictions to my availability: I can pretty much get up and go.

BTW: nice video shoots you showed me while I was at Recoleta.

Jackson, my friends (loyal patrons of WSG. The "ones" who recommeded me the site) were surprised that we had met and they wanted to konw if you were helpful during my experiences at BA, whether you'd be a good referral next time they take a trip to BA. It was a definitive yes from me.

Ciao.

Saint

05-28-03, 16:42

Hey amigos. I admit I probably am spoiled but there is no disputing what I noticed. Everyone is right. If you're the garden variety hobbyist that only goes down to BA once or twice a year and you are used to hobbying in the USA than BA is still the paradise that many dreamed it would be.

I only posted my opinions. No one should read more into my posts than anyone else's posts. I'm just a normal guy that likes to travel. Maybe it was just a matter of me hitting BA on a slow holiday weekend but I did notice the difference from all my other trips.

I'm not asking anyone to "understand" my posts. I'm a straight shooter and with me you'll always get my unbiased opinion on the scene there. Slick1 is 100% correct. If you compare BA with USA than you'll be in paradise. Like I said..the city is wonderful. I was just disappointed that I saw no real talent in the clubs, the internet and the various private apartment scene while I was there. My buddy who is staying in my apartment said Madaho's improved drastically the past few nights.

I disagree with another poster's comments about BA being just as expensive as Europe now. BA is still a bargain. The girls seemed like they were asking for more money but you gotta be firm with them. Good luck all.

P.S. I'd be curious to hear Jackson's thoughts on this as he is down there a lot more than any of us and has been going down for years. I know that when I was talking with Moondog who also goes down frequently he noticed the same thing as I did.

Andres

05-28-03, 19:06

El Matador:

Another monger told me that at Lavalle St and Esmeralda St there is a photo processing shop (called Showcolor or Fotoshow or whatever) that processed his films full of nude chicas without any trouble.

Hope this helps,

Andres

John Candy

05-28-03, 23:34

Originally posted by exon123
Saint --- What a Bummer, Your breaking my heart --- I guess Capitalism is alive and well in Buenos Aires --- And many of the quality Chicias have turned out to be just garden variety Republicans and moved on to greener pastures in Europe, Mexico & the USA --- Must be that their local Argentine customers can't afford them any more --- SHIT --- My tickets for next weeks trip arrived in the mail yesterday, what am I gona do ? --- Say it Ain't So Saint --- Exon

I am afraid It might be true. Just take a look ar eros in the miami section. I can recognize some of the Argentinian talent. Peru may be a better option for the time being, the airfair is dirt cheap also. You may want to try Cambodia if you don't like old ladies.

There will always be local talent, but not as much as before. The silver lining is , new entrants in the market will try local first before going international so you may get a lot of fresh faces.

Post a report. I consider going there, but always had my doubts, and Brazil is so close I always end there.

Traveler0099

05-29-03, 02:04

Judd:

Please email me at traveler0099@yahoo.com

I would like to hear more about your conversation with my friend.

She and I have emailed one another a few times, but I think her access is somewhat limited.

Very cool meeting you, BTW. You are a monger's monger!

Trav

MiddleAgeGuy

05-29-03, 12:57

Fellow Posters,
Post 1
Well, just got back from almost 3 weeks in Argentina, and had a pretty good time, mostly good. I'll divide this into a few posts.
First, to Roxana and Jackson, thanks for showing my buddy around while I was away from the city, he enjoyed himself to the point of wearing down his immune system! Same with you other mongeres, you know who you are. I just read Castro has become ill in BA, maybe he was haunting some of the same clubs?
Let's start with the now becoming infamous Mariana. A blonde Brazillian. I arrived in BA on a Friday morning, worked a long day, went for dinner, then to Hooks near my hotel. (After going back and forth to various places, Hooks is a little on the downscale side in talent but there are some.) Mariana, slinking around in a very nice black dress finally came up to me with a rather timid friend for mi amigo lantino. She does have a lively sparkle about her. After a drink or two, (20P for the first two drinks for the guys, 35P/drink for the girls), lots of heavy DFK and legs all over me, she got me up for a dance, which I reluctantly complied with. This was followed by some hearty laughter as middleageguy was a little excited, but thanks to the low lights, only evedent in the immediate vicinity. We struck a price of 150P for the rest of the night, so did my buddy, and we all walked back to the hotel. Went to my room, where Mariana commences to partially derobe. In the harsh light of the hotel, it is obvious Mariana had a few problems with acne as a youth, but what the hay! My buddy leaves with his friend to his room, and Mariana aand I commence a long sesion of very enthusiastic love making in the living room and bedroom. Gentlemen, she is extremely lively, flexible, you name it, legs around her ears, etc.
Well, we are done and it is 4:30 or so I think, sitting on the couch naked watching a little TV. She is talking about having to get back by 1/2 an hour or so or there is a fine, one of these 1 drink = 1.5 hrs, 2 drinks= 2.5 hrs, 3 drinks = all night things. I say fine but I am a little disappointed, as she slowly begins to dress, intermittent with kisses. Well, peter starts up again and as I am naked, all visible. I say that is what men are like, verdad? I grab a towel wrap, she takes another look, she kisses it a little, looks at her watch, and says, what the hell, grabs me off to the bedroom and we go at it again. After, she says she will need 35P extra because now she is late for getting back and must report in. Not a problem after that for me.
Well I leave the city for a week or so, come back and see Mariana one time walking into Newport in street cloths with a guy, going to the back tables. On another night, I see her in Blacks, working the scene. I asked her what gives and she said she had been checking out the various clubs, trying them out, and had seemed to settle on Blacks.
For a nice lively, DFK session, nice little but, but no hard body, take a look at Mariana. I will post other adventures later.
Middleageguy

Slick1

05-29-03, 23:53

Listen to Rox, although I won't be in BA for her trip to Tigres, I did head out there with a female friend after having been invited to a barbeque at a lawyers house. It really is a beautiful area and it sounds like a great day is planned. Wish I could be there but alas I just got back from Cali, Colombia on Monday and people are starting to wonder why I am always running off to South America. We know, don't we guys! Just finished my post about a first timers trip to Cali on that board . Later.

Exon123

05-31-03, 16:02

Alass --- Saint you may be right Ive been in town since Thursday morning --- And its evident that the real super stars my have moved on to greener pastures --- Having had dinner with my favorite Paula --- She informed me that she and others have apartments in New York, London & Las Vegas --- Shes on Wall Street no less --- That being said, theres more action here than any Monger can handle --- And plenty of Rookies, up and comers that will someday be major leagers --- Still good value here in B.A. and Im glad I came --- More later ---- Exon

DownBA

05-31-03, 21:39

Exxon, glad to hear some of the girls are getting apartments in NYC, being from the greater NY area myself. If you or anybody else know of any good BA chicas in the NY area would you please post some info here or email me privately at lllllnnnnn@aol.com. I'd appreciate knowing some local talent. Used to see Natalia of escortsbaires.com when she lived in the NY area but she now lives in the Miami area and I'd sure like to know some awesome, typical BA beauties in my area. DownBA

MeGustaBoliches

06-01-03, 11:28

Guys, rumors of the demise of Buenos Aires are greatly exaggerated...I have been in BA 10 times in less than 2 years, and this trip has been as rewarding if not more so than any of my past treks....

I took home a hot 20 year old from Madahos Thursday night....Saturday night I spent some quality time with a 19 year old from Afairre....cost for each was AP150, plus AP 40 to 50 for drinks.

It is true that if you show up on the wrong night or the wrong hour, the selection might not be spectacular....but this has always been so.........

My only regret is that I must return to the States soon.....where I will begin to plan my next trip.

As one recent visitor observed, BA is a great city in which you can also hobby.....as opposed to Rio where one goes to hobby and perhaps enjoy the beach.....

Exon123

06-01-03, 14:14

Yes things are just fine here in B.A. --- Was out to dinner with¨"Outof the game" last night --- We ended up at Hooks & Cattos --- Unbelievely fabulous --- Had lunch with Roxana & Mayra yesterday and they are everything thats been posted about them and more --- Very valuable assets --- DownBA --- Yes a bunch of them have moved to Manhatten, but bring your check book cause thats why they moved --- Its not going to be cheap --- The real value is here in B.A. --- Theres plenty of talent, gorgeous creatures that have not yet become Republicans and want to compete in a very competitive inviorment --- So for the most part Saint is wrong, but he does have a point --- But B.A. is a damn site better that it was before the pesco crashed --- As a matter of fact its heaven --- More Latter --- Exon

Roxanne

06-02-03, 00:28

Hey guys!
Mayra and I wanted to let you know that our trip to El Tigre was postponed, we didn't get the minimum amount of people required.
Plus, on Friday the site had technical problems and was off line for many hours, so maybe some of you were not able to check or read our plan.

So, the great news is that we'll be taking the trip, on Sunday, June 22nd. All of you that are or will be, in BA at the moment, are more than welcome to join us and have a wonderful and fun day!
Send us please e-mails, or if you are here, give Mayra or me a call.

Mayra: 15-5062-6364
Roxana: 15-5103-3905

Don't tell us that 2 weeks of notice is not MORE than enough time, so you can organize a trip down here if you're not planning to come...

Happy orgasms, The Queen.

MiddleAgeGuy

06-02-03, 12:03

Post 2
I'll throw my 2 cents worth into the discussion on talent drain. I would say BA talent is 'maybe' down a notch but I may also be mixing that up with familiarity and/or rased expectations. If you are not looking for 7-10's, 3 times a day for 2 weeks, you will do fine... just search a little more.
After a draining Friday night, on Saturday went to Newport, saw a few familiar faces, many new then off to Madahos which I missed 8 months earlier. Nice place but hard to see the girls at the back without juggling your way around a bunch of tables.
Met a nice girl from Spain at Madahos but due to exhaustion, told her it would have to be another night and I would look for her.

Now I have a question for the Rox and the gentlemen out there: When going into a club in 2's, the girls seem to always come up to you in 2's as they understandably try to work in 2's. One is ussually not the type as she was not 'choosen'. How does one politely say goodbye to the one, not making yourself look bad to either, and give the lone guy time to check out further action?

Back to business. Sunday night while having a drink in the room, my friend and I decided we should go on a scout mission to set up a little fiesta for 3 guy, 3 girls in a little over a week, give the girls time to book off, etc. So we went back to Hooks, 2 girls came up, as ussual eye contact with one sends them both over. So Sully and Luz were game for a party and had a friend Flavia who would be game. Settled on 200P each, we would have some food, wine, champagne, they should bring some music, a little dancing. (One asked if they had to share in the food cost!). Sully is a very lively fun girl, little girl, with more than 1 kid. They thought we should sample that night but we said we did not want to spoil anyones appetite. So, anticipation for all was set for Wednesay, 1.5 weeks away at 10PM.
Off to the outback. We spent a Saturday night in Salta, the big party night. They have their own little Recoleta type strip with restraunts, but no clubs. You are best served with a reservation for 11:30PM if you want a table, and every place has a band for dancing. We happened to take out a reserve at a place that turned out to be for 'big people', a nice term for older, but the music was good. There are very few night clubs as out taxi driver pointed out the dives. There are a few street walkers, 30P/pop. Far too late in the evening, we came across a place right by the Salta Hotel that had a great mix of young and 'big' with a number of tables 100% girls. It's amatuer, but with a little effort, I am sure would have worked.
Back to BA. We phone the party girls and they are raring and ready for Wednesday, and tell us to come to Cicceron, Monday night, (next to Affaire), their new place of employment. Seems they did not like it there.
rest later

Andres

06-02-03, 14:26

Originally posted by middleageguy

Now I have a question for the Rox and the gentlemen out there: When going into a club in 2's, the girls seem to always come up to you in 2's as they understandably try to work in 2's. One is ussually not the type as she was not 'choosen'. How does one politely say goodbye to the one, not making yourself look bad to either, and give the lone guy time to check out further action?

Just tell her: "I would like to choose one of these girls on that corner".

Women understand that you are there to fulfill your desires, and that you will pay for it. In fact, girls are not "friends" who come in pairs to meet guys but profesional colleagues that approach potential customers. If one is acepted and the other not, not big deal for them. Thus, they tolerate not to be chosen.

Of course, occasionally one of the girls may feel pissed for your choice, but in such case no kind of politeness works.

Hope this helps,

Andres

BeachBoy

06-02-03, 17:51

......Or you can say you are waiting for a particular girl you know, thus signaling your interest in another chica without rejecting the one offering her company. This way you are polite about your alleged current commitment without ruling out a potential future date. If said chica wants to know who you are waiting for, just say "A beautiful blonde/brunette/redhead." End of story......

MiddleAgeGuy

06-02-03, 18:27

Andres and BeachBoy,
Thanks for the lines guys, they work in a multitude of different cases.
MAG

Leo

06-02-03, 19:50

I'll have to agree with Saint 100%, B.A. has suffered a major drop in talent.

Sure, as many of you are arguing, there's plenty girls to be found, but you're not going to find what I'd rate 8s and 9s all that easily... certainly not just off the internet or in a club (even Madahos) on first sight.

I was in Madahos three or four different nights last week (of Fri, Sat, Mon, Tue) and all but one of the nights there wasn't a girl I'd pay for... barely a girl I'd hit on if I was back in Miami. The other night I decided to just take one girl no matter what... turns out she doubles during the day as Brigitte on Platynum - I'll grant her a 7 (but a 9 for effort!). BTW, the hair is fake, and I suspect the boobs are also - though I'm no expert and they're not an obvious job to me...

Hey, I love BA as a city, and the people, and all that... but I won't be planning any trip there merely for pay-4-play.

drgn

06-02-03, 23:39

Well, folks for the moment is seems your pal, drgn, is out of the game. However, before going any further I want to thank Saint for the comfy digs (I’ll take your advice and spend the extra dough next time.) I also want to thank Mayri and Roxanne for their help getting to the airport and arranging the apartment as well. Moving on…

I feel like I just had the living hell kicked out of me, so I’m taking a sabbatical from the hobby. It appears I allowed myself to commit a cardinal sin…I got played. I met this beautiful chica and immediately knew I was in trouble. (Was instantly flooded with images of her standing next to me at a company party in a black cocktail dress, or driving around town in a BMW with a baby seat in the back while going to hang out with other MILF’s. Yikes!) Next thing I know, we’re talking, have similar interest. Later that night, I find out she has a tattoo similar to mine in the same location as mine. Totally sweet and innocent in the club, in the cab, in the lobby, but she makes the first move when we get inside. An insanely good time together, and I forget to get her phone number. Next night, she’s out sick. So, following night I’m waiting for her, she runs over and jumps on me. More talking for hours, sharing childhood stories, etc. We go dancing at a night club in Recoleta and she’s getting attention from both guys and hot girls. Whenever a guy starts getting too interested she turns to me for a long, DFK and hug (this is what we call a keeper folks!) Tells me about the girls hitting on her in the bathroom, whom I had noticed earlier giving her lots of attention, and again pounces on me. Back at my place, another incredible night with screams of “Termina conmigo, por favor….”

Anyway, at some point over the next day, I “jumped the shark” which in the music biz means a career ending move. And now I can’t reach her by phone or email.

Now, I usually pride myself on being on top of my game, especially since one of my core beliefs is woman are an abundant resource. But, I’m running around like a little school girl and its f---ing embarrassing. I know how things got f---ed up because I made a classic rookie mistake.

Next thing I know, I’m in a city full of beautiful woman and all I can think about is HER, to the point where I lost interest in sex. Let me repeat that: I’m in BA and I’ve lost interest in sex. That tells me to go into semi retirement until I get my shit together again.

drgn

06-02-03, 23:50

Other ramblings:

There were some interesting experiences this time around. Let’s start with condomless sex.
Okay, I do NOT condone this at all, yet I had 3 of the 8 picks for this trip try to mount me sin preservativo including Miss Perfect. Now, I’m not talking about nasty, skanky, BA streetwalkers. These are the women who never approach guys in clubs, because they don’t have to. And these 3 were all women I saw as keepers. For example, I said matter of factly to one ,"You know, you're a very beautiful woman...and I imagine guys tell you that all the time." She calmly said," Yes, they do." Miss Perfect, after the night of dancing, just DID IT, and after I pulled away, she looked shocked with the realization of what she had just done (tried to do).

You know the best part…I knew they would do that, I knew THEY would initiate sex without a condom. And I knew it because I had verbally, physically, and energetically directed the experience so they saw me as a lover, not a client. The only reason I mention this is because to me, especially in today’s world and the club environment, not using protection is the ultimate gesture of trust. And when you consistently get the gesture initiated by women, it’s a pretty good indication that you’ve successfully stepped inside their mind (they’re mine HAHAHAH). However, and this is very important, you get her to make that gesture, but you can NOT go through with it. WHY? Because for most women two important ingredients of seduction include trust and surrender. She has to trust you enough so that she can feel comfortable surrendering to the moment and surrendering to her desires as a woman. Part of her surrendering is her knowing that you’re still wide awake and thinking clearly for both of you. If you go ahead with the condomless sex she initiated, she may enjoy the moment, but regret will eventually kick in and she now knows you’re not strong enough to protect her from herself. She has to stay strong and surrendering goes out the window. However, if you stay in control even when it’s obvious she’s lost control (which is a central theme in many women’s fantasies) you’re THE MAN, THE ONE. Her trust in you goes way up and you’re definitely in lover territory now.

Remember, women in general, but particularly in this environment, have to be on guard, in control, ready to protect themselves. When you are able to systematically take away the need to be on guard, it opens a whole new world of possibilities for them and you. That's a big part of my process. Which brings us to the next issue…jealousy.

I had a serious problem with jealousy this trip, from the same three women. The first one, who looks like Catherine Zeta-Jone’s little sister asked if I planned on going out after we parted. I said yes, to which she replied “No, no, no more women. Only me.” When I went to the club the next day, there were 100 questions about what I did the night before. When I didn’t show up at the club, she sent me an email (after she got off work by the date and time) asking why I didn’t come in and telling me she’s angry. And it continued.

Another member of the circle of 3, the student, who btw is another one I wouldn’t mind bringing home as Mrs. (insert my last name), was noticeably angry when she found other phone numbers in a book in my room. This was our first, and unfortunately last, time together. She went from saying,”I knew when I met the right man he’d touch me the way you touch me, I’m so glad you came in tonight” (And also trying to mount me sin preservativo, while DFK). Next she’s saying “Enjoy your time in BA” with a tone that implied “it won’t be with me, jerk.”

And finally, Miss Perfect. After another insane session, she tells me she’s angry with me because her friend saw me leave with “the student” the night she was sick. And guys, this is after we’ve spent the evening dancing, drinking, etc. And, she is seriously pissed and doesn’t want to play any more that night, although she cuddles up next to me until 1 pm the next afternoon at which time hunger forced us to get up. But, the ball had been set in motion.

I just want to say, if you go around manipulating and directing a women’s emotional states to generate a desired outcome (which is very doable when you know how) be prepared for ALL of the behaviours that flow from that emotional state, both good and bad. When you get a woman to access that part of her brain where she thinks about a lover, and she puts you in that place, be prepared for all hell to break loose if you fail to live up to the title.
I’m out of the game because I wanted the title without doing the work. I got someone I REALLY wanted to view me as her lover, but my subsequent behaviour was incongruent with her definition. So, she fired me.

Drgn

Saint

06-03-03, 01:39

Drgn,

Don't be too hard on yourself. It happens to the best of us. If you hobby long enough it will happen. There will be one girl that has some kind of voodoo effect on us. It's not necessarily a bad thing.

Thanks for the kind words about the apartment. I do have to mention there is something wierd going on in that bedroom because almost every single hobbyist that has stayed in the Montevideo apartment has said they got offered full-service condomless sex. Some of the guys had been to BA several times and this never happened to them. Only in this apartment which I'm finding very very odd. I really don't understand it and thought it was just a coincidence until you posted that.

I agree totally with you about the condomless sex. Guys have to be careful. I've been offered it several several times in Buenos Aires and in Rio. The thing you have to realize is that you aren't the only special one. We all want to believe we are special but odds are if she is offering it to you bareback...she is and has offered it to other clients and probably will continue to do so.

I also stand by my earlier posts about the deterioration in quality. I agree with Leo's post. There are still pretty girls and the average guy going to BA might not even notice it but for the guys that go down all the time it's plain as day to see. It's still paradise and everyone that has not experienced BA should definitely get down there at least once. Good luck all.

Saint

Andres

06-03-03, 02:13

Originally posted by drgn

I just want to say, if you go around manipulating and directing a women’s emotional states to generate a desired outcome (which is very doable when you know how) be prepared for ALL of the behaviours that flow from that emotional state, both good and bad. When you get a woman to access that part of her brain where she thinks about a lover, and she puts you in that place, be prepared for all hell to break loose if you fail to live up to the title.

That's one of the main reasons for which I'm prone to hobbying rather than being heavily involved with non-pros: I can get what I want and put a healthy distance by not creating expectations. Dealing with women emotions (or dodging women after the physical experience) is time and effort consuming.

Andres

BeachBoy

06-03-03, 02:31

Drgn,

Thanks for your posts. They connected with me as I frequently experience similar situations.

I am amazed how often I end up having condomless sex with chicas the world over (even in Rio termas!!), and I agree that it heightens the sense of intimacy and trust on many levels. However, I would far from condone such practices. Everyone runs a huge health risk by not staying covered. Period. So why do I do it anyway?

I believe, as I hope and pray, that pros are extremely careful about hygiene and protection against STD, but in the nether recesses of my mind I am also wondering why this gorgeous, intelligent and highly experienced babe is allowing this to happen with me, a relative stranger. And the illusion, the great mind fuck, creeps in to insinuate that it is because she has chosen to love me in this moment and to trust me completely, -even with her life. Then the druggy haze of sensual euphoria cons us into feeling that the extra tiny element of pleasure experienced through total nakedness, coupled with the mental bond, is somehow worth the risk. It is that total surrender of the self that makes me take her, reward her, give my all to her in return, but only to finish protected as a sign that I too pledge my life and health, but am responsible enough not to incur residual post coital "inconveniences." And EACH time she tells me that she ALWAYS insists on the condom, but got carried away in the heat of passion while also choosing to trust ME. And boy do I feel special in that moment, the Chosen One, decendant of Gods..... omnipotent, the perfect lover.

In truth, we entertain a fantasy playing with this fire, and only hardcore romantics and committed risk takers will pass the test of the morning hangover for putting their lives on the line for such a shortlived spurt of pleasure. We are fucking nuts, Jack......

I believe we do it for the seductive rush, the deep sense of bonding, and the total surrender to the lover and love making. It is like sticking your neck in a guillotine and handing the trigger rope to the girl, saying "I trust you, you decide what happens next." But we also do it as a validation of our powers of assessment, of our ability to size up the situation and determine whether this situation is safe or not. I have definitely been covered many more times than uncovered, secure in the belief that I made a sensible and informed choice each time.

But bareback sex is so wonderfully intimate and affirming, a powerful confirmation of the union of lovers, of naked togetherness. And I guess the thing to do, as responsible adults, is to choose such moments and partners carefully, and to get tested frequently as I do, while asking the same of your partner

A bit dramatic perhaps, but I am glad this topic was raised, and so eloquently by Drgn.

Party on!! With raincoats and testing.

Beachboy

Manu Ginobili

06-03-03, 03:38

Well said beach boy. You aliterated the experience perfectly.

MiddleAgeGuy

06-03-03, 12:34

Post 3 :Last
Boy, some heady stuff there guys but well written, from the heart and oh so true. I am having some pangs back home now for one in BA as I did a time before. One gal I got to know well last time in BA has emailed me 2 months ago that she has gone off to Spain for work. I don't know why she thinks it will be better but she is part ethnic of a type rarely seen in BA, well travelled in Europe, so maybe in Spain she feels her worth is higher. On to a bit lighter subject.
So, Sunday night I meet up with my other buddy who has been in town over the weekend and he has been going crazy, probably 5 hrs sleep in 3.5 days. We go to Madahos for a quick look, see two dark haired beauties he has shared some time, separately. The one I am looking for is not there that night as I ask one of my buddies friends. Monday night we are off to Cicceron, next to Affaire, owned by the same I am told. It is Luz and Sully's second night or so there and we do them right by buying a few drinks for them. We have a pretty good little party 2 girls, 3 guys, and then another girl comes over. Lots of kissing, dancing, semi-strips. A precurrsor for Wednesday.
Wednesday comes, my one buddy is down and out with the flu so we have to call the girls and tell them the party is down to 4. They arrive promptly at 10:00PM, we go to the room, they have 20 discs of music. We have a nice meal, conversation, dancing, kissing, stripping while danceing. Then everyone has next to no cloths on. We are doing the train around the room, up the sofa, onto the bed, jumping around, laughing, one hell of a good party, letting the girls take control as we promised. Well, around midnight, we order a cake in forone of their birthdays, have to robe up a bit to get the door. Getting close to 1AM, the girls figure we all have to take a shower together. Off we go, my first time in a tub with another guy since my mother made my brother and I bath together as kids to save on hot water! Well, in for a dime, in for a dollar. The rest of the evening was a combination of making out in wonderful style our separate ways, back together, then off again. Everyone had a great time. It was goodbye's at 5:30AM, 'promises or possibly?' to meet again. While lots of fun, I was looking for even more of a head game.
The next few evenings, Sully called wondering why I had not made it back to her yet, trying to arrange meetings.
Went to Blacks a couple times, some nice talent, 70 or more girls. I found that if you stay at the bar, most of the parade will walk past you so you can see 70% of the talent by staying put.
On Friday, went back to Madahos, to look for the one with the eyes that caught my attention. My buddies girl came up and asked if I was still looking for her. I said yes, she brings a girl over and at first I did not recognise her, saying she is not the one. She then does a little hair pull back, and instant recognition! She had totally changed her hair. The jest of it is we spend 2 great evenings/mornings together getting to know each other. Had a wonderful, fullfilling time. One night at 4:00AM the front desk calls and says another chica his here for me, should she come up. No thanks. 15 minutes later, Sully is calling asking if I am with someone. My girl beside me is listening also, and slyly accuses me of being a casanova.
The trust thing some talk of, can also be found in a great restfull sleep with a girl, cuddling, etc. And that brings me a great sense of well being.
MAG

OttoGraham

06-03-03, 13:29

Boys,

Let me inject a dose of reality into this discussion.

If you have condomless sex with chicas:

It's going to feel great for 30 minutes.

The next morning, you wake up having to pee. You go to the toilet to relieve yourself. Your wank is on fire as you pee.

You take a look down there, you see something.

You move over to the mirror to get a better look. You see a gigantic boil on the end of your member, the place where your head used to be.

It's filled with pus.

Later that morning, it bursts, and pus goes all over the place. Blood starts dripping.

That afternoon, your entire cock turns black and starts to smell like rotten meat.

By the time you get into the doctor, he pronounces "gangrene." Out comes the scalpel to slice away the dead flesh. Funny, it doesn't hurt at all. In fact, there's no feeling at all down there. You get a look in the mirror and yikes!!!!!!!!

Your mongering days are over!

Enjoy! ;)

-Uncle Otto

Guillermo

06-03-03, 14:09

Jeez, this board is starting to read like a Jacqueline Susanne novel!

Prokofiev

06-03-03, 14:10

Otto!

Estoy de acuerdo but damn! A little tough on the prose, no?

But seriously, you guys are fooling yourself about the meaning and value of un-safe sex. Yeah, it could mean that she trusts you with her life and has bonded with you on a deep and meaningful level . . . Or it could be that she is uneducated, desperate, high/drunk and just doesn't care anymore . . .

Peace, -P

drgn

06-03-03, 16:50

Thanks for the kind words, guys. I can see that many of you have had similar experiences, both good and bad. That's part of why we're all here.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prokofiev

But seriously, you guys are fooling yourself about the meaning and value of un-safe sex. Yeah, it could mean that she trusts you with her life and has bonded with you on a deep and meaningful level . . . Or it could be that she is uneducated, desperate, high/drunk and just doesn't care anymore . . .

Uneducated. Desperate. High/drunk. Just doesn't care any more. Interesting... so what's OUR excuse? LOL

For the record: I DON'T CONDONE UN-SAFE SEX, EITHER IN THE HOBBY OR OUT. It's simply not worth it. If you pay attention, over time its easy to notice patterns of behavior, and this is just another pattern.

Did you ever stop, and think about your BEST, and most SATISFYING experiences with women both in and out of the hobby? And as you do that, as you focus on those memories, images and thoughts, I invite you to notice certain similarities emerging. Now, for me, I can it means we speak a certain way. We touch a certain way. We dance, laugh, and have sex a certain way. To the point where, as soon as the experience has ended, we want it to start right back up again. Now, as you begin to really notice what those similarities are for you, you might just stop and ask yourself,"How can I recreate this experience over, and over, and over again and be able to do so at will?"

Some might say money is enough. Well, if you been around here longer than a day, you know that its easy to overpay for a shitty experience.

How about good looks? Sure looks help, especially outside the hobby. If you're really good looking, you may tend to pay less, but it isn't everything. There are plenty of average/below-average looking guys on this board with GREAT stories to tell.

How about power, prestige, and social status? Well, usually we hobby in foreign locales, where we barely know anyone or speak the language. Many of the women you meet don't know an investment banker or corporate lawyer from a pig farmer. (No offense to the pig farmers here...)

So, what's left? What's left is understanding all human behaviors tend to be "state" driven. If you want someone to exhibit a certain behavior, first put them in an emotional or mental "state" from which that behavior flows naturally. (Advertising, politicians, government agencies, nuff said.) My best experiences in and out of the hobby involved both me and her being in certain states.

Also, understand that great experiences (with women) tend to be "processes" not "events". Early in the process I tend to weed out the uneducated, desperate (thought I mentioned that), unattractive, and unresponsive. That has to do with "target finders", something we discussed last year on this board. (Jackson says, if she's not all over him in the club, he moves on.)

How does this relate to BBFS? For me, in the hobby, having HER initiate that is just a giant f---ing road sign on the highway. It's the same as meeting a non-pro in your home city (that passes the initial screens) and HER wanting to f--- you in the bathroom of the night club/bookstore/bar/restaurant/grocery store because that's where you two are RIGHT NOW.

Saint mentioned the frequency with which BBFS was offered in his apartment. It makes sense. What are the visual anchors in a private apartment versus a hotel room? What states will that modest apartment trigger versus the penthouse of a 5 star hotel? The apartment in question is comfy, but not luxurious, which keeps many of the girls in their comfort zone. They don't even NOTICE it. Perfect. Absolutely perfect.

Drgn

Exon123

06-03-03, 17:20

Memo To The Board : RE Roxana --- Had an experience in which Roxana saved me a bunch of money --- The other night at Catto´s I met a knock out Braizlian --- I was a little tired and pasted her up that night but got her phone number for a latter time --- Well rather than call her myself and since her English was not good I thought lets have Roxana set this thing up so everyones on the same page --- I got Roxana on the phone and had her offer $300 pecos for three hours and Roxana´s comment that was thars a fair price --- The call was made and the offer excepted --- When Roxana called back to confirm she stated ¨She must have been expecting you, her room mate answered ¨The American, The American¨--- Long and the short of this was when the session was over the Braizlian wanted $300 USD rather than pescos --- And the argument started --- A call was placed to Roxana whom informed the lady the deal was made in pescos not dollars and the argument was over --- My point in this story is to state the $10 Roxana gets out of the deal was well worth it --- Had she not been envolved I would have had real trouble and who knows what ? --- If you don´t speak Spanish use Roxana --- She´ll save you both time and money --- Exon

JamesBond69

06-03-03, 18:50

Originally posted by exon123
Memo To The Board : RE Roxana --- Had an experience in which Roxana saved me a bunch of money

Roxanne is really doing great stuff in the field of international affairs.

Maybe her next step is a position at the United Nations

Exon123

06-03-03, 19:16

quote:
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Originally posted by exon123
Memo To The Board : RE Roxana --- Had an experience in which Roxana saved me a bunch of money
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Roxanne is really doing great stuff in the field of international affairs.

Maybe her next step is a position at the United Nations ---------------------------- Quite possiably ------- Exon

StudPlayer

06-04-03, 14:07

Drgn... could you give a reference for learning "manipulating and directing a women’s emotional states to generate a desired outcome (which is very doable when you know how)" ?

Thanks.

Andres

06-04-03, 15:16

Originally posted by Studplayer
Drgn... could you give a reference for learning "manipulating and directing a women’s emotional states to generate a desired outcome (which is very doable when you know how)" ?

Thanks.
Visit www.doubleyourdating.com and subscribe to the free newsletters. You will grasp the idea.

Hope this helps,

Andres

MeGustaBoliches

06-04-03, 17:14

exon123,

Roxana is indeed a jewel but I would offer the following observations.....300dollars for 3 hours is an outrageous ripoff and Roxana was right to end the discussion abruptly.

In fact your original offer of 300 pesos was more than generous.....some girls ask, but few expect to receive 300 pesos for anything less than all night....unless they are from Blacks....where they ask whatever the hell they want.....

I have been to BA 10 times in just under 2 years, and since devaluation I have never paid more than 350 pesos for all night...never more than 200 for 3 to 4 hours....

Exon123

06-04-03, 18:39

MeGustaboliches --- Your absolutely right --- The woman was playing me for a sucker --- In fact trying to cheat me, probabily never had a $300 USD date in her life --- But that doesn´t mean she can´t try and she did --- And my point being, there was Roxana their to the rescue --- We would have setteled some where in between without Roxanas help and I would have been stuck with the difference --- Im a long way from home and don´t want any trouble and thats why I would have caved in --- My Spanish is almost none existant and thats why her service is so valuable --- Heres another example --- I have my eyes set on a girl in the Orleans Cafe --- I got her phone number and had Roxana call her --- Now I would have personaly offered her $200 pescos --- " A hard dick has no brains " --- And I asked Roxana " See what you can do for me " without mentioning price --- Roxana came back with a price of $150 AD --- Big difference, and had I approched her direct she more than likely would hve countered with something higher --- And dumb shit American me would have taken it --- The old experession " nice guys finish last " is still in exsitance and holds true today --- Thats way the little bit of money Roxana asks for her services is well worth the money ---- Exon

Bandy

06-04-03, 18:48

MeGustaBoliches:

You are right. I also went overboard for a Brazilian goddess from Black last November. I paid 400 Pesos for TLN sessions for 2
nights. On her defense, both nights, she performed more than a 12 hour shift with unbelievable gusto and tenderness. A truly unforgettable experience. All my other TLN experiences (my only choice of late night encounter) cost me 200 Peso or less. Short sessions were between 100 -150 Peso.

The way I look at it, since November, US dollar has lost roughly 20% against peso. This time I am planning to offer my goddess exactly 320 Peso. Hope she accepts it.

I will be at Etoile, June 13-22. If some of you want to get together, we can meet at the lobby at 9 PM.

Bandy

DownBA

06-04-03, 20:26

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BeachBoy
[i]Drgn,
And EACH time she tells me that she ALWAYS insists on the condom, but got carried away in the heat of passion while also choosing to trust ME. And boy do I feel special in that moment, the Chosen One, decendant of Gods..... omnipotent, the perfect lover.
"Sos tan especial mi AMOR" yaddy, yaddy, yadda. The stuff Academy Awards are made of mates!

Next thing you know she'll be pitching you some great Mar de Plata beachfront property for bargain basement prices!!!

Careful with STD's my culo! Most of these STD enemies cannot be perceived by smell or sight and I doubt most of these girls are qualified to probe or even thinking about probing their customers in any sort of fashion that would remotely detect an STD before they go through with their session.

I'm with Uncle Otto, go right ahead and continue with the bareback sex if you don't mind hitting the ceiling of the bathroom the next morning you go to "hacer pi pi." DownBA

JamesBond69

06-04-03, 23:30

Originally posted by bandy
You are right. I also went overboard for a Brazilian goddess from Black last November\

"The Brazilian goddess from Blacks last November"

Bandy, you are talking about Jovana I'm sure. After you left town I paid her 300 pesos for just one hour and she was the only chica I paid over 200 pesos.

So 400 for TLN is a bargain. She really rules in Blacks. On an average night she goes out at least twice and sometimes as often as four times, all for at least 300 pesos. As soon as she comes back she's out again.

She delivers the goods, has steady clients, she's drop dead gorgeous and quite smart, practically a one woman corporation, pure business.

In this case you are really paying for luxury goods. Anyway she told me she's going to Mexico, where she can even make more money and she will.

Elvis

06-05-03, 01:18

bandy,

I'm heading to BA June 12-17. I would be able to meet at the Etoile lobby. I'll see you guys there.

Elvis

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Jaimito Cartero

06-07-03, 07:06

I've just booked a last minute trip to BA for 8 days. I'll be arriving on Tuesday, so I'm flying a little blind here.

I've perused some of Roxana's posts, and seen a few interesting things about hotels and apartments.

If anyone can help me out on recommendations, I'd greatly appreicate it. I was a little freaked out with the WSG being down for a day or so, and I wanted to make sure I didn't arrive and be clueless.

This is my 4th major mongering destination this year. I've been to Nicaragua, Costa Rica (one trip for both), and was in Bangkok last month.

I speak a moderate amount of Spanish, and can usually get by. At least in Mexico and Costa Rica.

I'm a big fat guy, and don't do lots of stairs or walking well. I'd like some tips on decent hotels in the action areas in the $20-$40 a night range.

I've seen prices for the Dazzler listed from $25-$37. Do you get the $25 by calling direct?

Is the Dazzler too far out of the action to make sense?

I'd prefer to check out the reasonably priced girls ($20-$50) Some of the really nice girls sound interesting, but I've rarely found that spending 100's of dollars really give you much more.

I'll be reading some of the 100's of posts here. I know that most of the questions I've asked are probably buried somewhere. I just want to make sure that if the site goes down, I'll be somewhat prepared.

Fat Bastard

06-07-03, 13:56

Jaimito Cartero,

Concerning hotels, etc....I would email Mayra at mayra@argentinago.com. Both Roxana and Mayra are well respected in The Guide and Mayra is the person you go to for help in locating hotels, apartments, etc. The site rarely goes down anymore so don´t worry about that. Take a look at the previous posts to ascertain your needed info. Even though you speak spanish somewhat...it would be a good idea to contact Roxana for her services....city tour, appointments, etc. She is GREAT....or as one person previously posted...Roxana ROCKS!! I´ve visited a lot of places over the years and IMHO, getting a tour of the city is a great way to start out the trip, not to mention spending some time with a great woman to find out what´s what in the city.

FB

JustGotBack

06-07-03, 17:02

Originally posted by Jaimito Cartero
I've seen prices for the Dazzler listed from $25-$37. Do you get the $25 by calling direct?

Dazzler is fine. It's close to the downtown bars and is not all that far from Recoleta. I walk it in about 15 minutes. You can get there by cab for a couple of bucks. It's not in the heart of things if you want that. You'll need to stay in Recoleta for that but It'll cost about twice as much.

The best place to get a good price on Dazzler is Travelocity. You can also try their sister hotel across the avenue. It's the Bisonte Palace and it's cheaper if anything. Although it's reported to be not as nice.

OttoGraham

06-08-03, 15:36

Going through Mayra is a better bet than travelocity.com, JGB. Mayra got me into the Dazzler on my last trip, even though the hotel was sold out and I could not book it myself either directly or through travelocity. Silly me, I should have had Mayra do it from the beginning. I won't make that mistake again.

-Uncle Otto

Roxanne

06-08-03, 16:17

Hi, Guys:

You know that for some days the WSG had problems, so I couldn't enter to check my emails. Maybe those days you were sending me emails to contact me for my services, but I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY EMAIL IN THOSE FUC!$#$@#%$#$ DAYS !!!, so if you need my services, please send me your emails again and I will answer and HELP YOU!!!!!

Kisses, Roxana.

HappyGoLucky

06-08-03, 22:30

Saint,

I'm giving some serious thought to buying an apartment in BA and wondered if you had any recommendations for attorneys and real estate agents. ANY info. on the process is GREATLY appreciated because I know you've done it. You can email me at: HappyBuenosAires@Hotmail.Com
Thanks in advance!!!!

-Hap

JustGotBack

06-09-03, 00:58

Originally posted by OttoGraham
Going through Mayra is a better bet than travelocity.com, JGB. Mayra got me into the Dazzler on my last trip, even though the hotel was sold out and I could not book it myself either directly or through travelocity. Silly me, I should have had Mayra do it from the beginning. I won't make that mistake again.

-Uncle Otto

I tried booking through Mayra once. The price she quoted me was about $15 more a night than through Travelocity. It's probably best to check both.

Exon123

06-09-03, 16:44

Fat Bastard ---- Truly enjoyed meetimg you and Bruse the other night at dinner with the the beautiful ladies --- Hope you had a pleasent flight home --- Exon

Traveler0099

06-10-03, 00:24

Judd:

I saw your post about meeting my friend and I would like to ask you more about it.

Please email me at traveler0099@yahoo.com

Thanks!

Trav

Steven

06-10-03, 03:35

Jaime Cartero,

See my report dated 4-15-03 for the low down on the Dazzler Hotel, and mongering in BA. The Dazzler is very "user friendly" and cost me about 35$ US a night (with the world's worst breakfast included at no extra charge).

Valuable resource if you speak some Spanish, "The Clarin" classifieds, section 59, for those long afternoon hours before the clubs get going at 11PM.

I am sure that you will find, that BA has those other places you mentioned beat for the quality of the experience (bang per buck), sweetness of the ladies, and GFE you are looking for.

Wish I was there...

BigBruno

Judd

06-10-03, 05:39

Traveler,
Check your email tomorrow.

Late,
Judd

Roxanne

06-10-03, 20:06

Hey, people:

As you know, our site has problems sometimes, so I will give you another email address where you can send me your emails any time the site is down. This new address is not to be used everyday, it's only for the days we have problems.

Kisses, Roxana.

ROXANAWSG@HOTMAIL.COM

Xplrer

06-10-03, 23:27

Gentlemen:

First time post here and let me just express my gratitude for all your posts.

I am just onmy 1st trip to SA and experienced Cafe Photo in SP, which was amazing. I will post my experience with Isabella there.

In any event, I will be through SP, BA, Montevideo, Rio and Punta del Este frequently.

Thanks toall of you, life just got way sweeter!

cheers

xplrer

Fat Bastard

06-11-03, 00:20

Exon123,

Nice meeting you too...

FB

BA_Robert

06-11-03, 22:24

Haven't been reading the board for awhile. However, I got really depressed after scrolling back to the report submitted by Saint (see May 25th).

Iam getting the impression that the "real party" is over and the top girls are gone. Is this true or is it just a temporary slump.

Would be nice to read some more reports on this subject.

Ford Car

06-11-03, 23:36

Hola Amigos,

I will be arriving to Buenos Aires on Thusday, June 19th. I am hoping on having a nice weekend there. I will be there for 8 days; but will be tied up from Monday the 23rd on.

On Friday, June 27th, I will arrive to Rio for a one month sojourn. During this time I will have my weekends free.

Will anyone be in BA or Rio during my visit? If so, please let me know. I would enjoy meeting members of this forum.

Honk Honk,

Ford Car

Jaimito Cartero

06-12-03, 00:01

Howdy, folks! I just arrived on Tuesday afternoon after a grueling trip, stopping in Houston, and then a ´marathon´of walking in Sao Paolo connection.

Roxana gave me a very nice tour this afternoon, and I´ve got a few things that I hope to do before I leave the 17th.

She mentioned that there were a few other guys in town right now, and perhaps a dinner or some sort of get together might be possible.

I´m staying at the Dazzler, room 506, or you can email me at -
jaimito_cartero@yahoo.com

Fat Bastard

06-12-03, 01:12

BA Robert,

A buddy of mine came down with me a week ago....it was his first time out of the country. We had a blast.....he's already planning the next trip. We should be reading his post shortly.

I just had dinner the other night with a couple of mongers and they were excited to be here and having the time of their lives.

Need I continue?

There are dozens of posts written after Saint's post that describe a fantastic time being had by all. I gather Saint was just describing his time down in BA and not trying to judge the scene.

About the only thing that's down in BA right now is the temperature.....

FB

Balul

06-12-03, 12:24

I'm now back from heaven, aka Buenos Aires... My only regret is that I was there only 10 days, I realy should have stayed more, but I'm already planning my next trip there.

Thanks to all the members here, thanks to your reports I knew where to go and what to do!

So here is my modest report. First post will be in the clubs, second on the other options (prices are in pesos):

Madahos: I was there in Monday night (25$ for entry with one drink, 35$ for a girl's drink). Many girls (about 40-50), and great atmosphere, feeling like it's a pub or a dance club. The crew was very nice - They asked if it is my first time, and explained me the "rules" (in English). There is a great variety of girls, I'm sure anyone can find there a girl for his taste. I found one for my taste, but another guy invited her a drink. I waited about 30 minutes but she was still with him, so I took off. In any case, the Madahos was a great experience.
By the way, I'm 27 y.o. and I felt like most of the guys there were much older than me, most of them looked like a respected buisness man while I looked like a football fan... But the girls and the stuff didn't seem to have a problem with that.

Playwoman: After Madahos, I went to the nearby Playwoman (free entry but 20$ for the first drink which you have to order. You must buy your girls 2 drinks, for 25$ each). There is no comparison between this club and the Madahos. In Playwoman, there was no atmoshphere of "fiesta", and the place looked quite sad. Probably the shootings there recently didn't help the atmosphere...
However, the girls were fine. There were about 20 girls, most of them looked good (for 3 I'll give 9, for the rest between 7 to 8). There were only 10 men in, so when I came in, I felt like all the girls are looking at me desperately (It was 2 am). I chose one, Jazmin, and we talked for some time (My Spanish is very bad though). She was a nice cute girl, 21 y.o., and we went for a hotel nearby. She wanted 250$, I said 150$, and she immediately agreed. The sex was nice, not spectacular but nice.

The night in the clubs was a fantastic experience, but it can be expensive comparing to the other options, so I didn't go to clubs in the rest of my travel. However, this experience does worth the prices IMO, so if I wasn't on a tight budget, I would go to the clubs again and again.

EDITOR's NOTE: There were no "shootings" at Play Women. There was an incident approximately three months ago wherein a former manager paied some local gius to go into the place to start a ruckas, this resulting in their having the crap beaten out of themselves by the bouncers, but the place got somewhat torn up and it took a couple of weeks for them to reopen. At the current time everything is back to normal.

Jackson

OttoGraham

06-12-03, 12:47

Yeah, things are rotten in Buenos Aires. Just terrible! In fact, the last time I was down there I laid alone in my bed every night, having to relieve myself with thoughts of all the talented girls who've left and gone to Mexico. In fact, the whole city was deserted, there were no women left there at all!

BTW, I'm headed back next month to lay in that same bed, stare at the ceiling, and pine away for all the chicas who have left town for greener pastures.

Stay away, that's my advice! ;)

-Uncle Otto

Balul

06-12-03, 13:06

After the clubs, here is my experience with all the other great places in Bs As (prices are still in pesos of course):

Cafe Orleans: I stayed near the Cafe so I saw the girls there almost everyday. I don't think it's as bad as some friends described it. When I was there, almost all the girls were young and didn't look bad (I wasn't close enough to look at their teeth though...). Most of them were quite atractive, and well dressed. On other other hand, it's true that they aren't as good looking as the girls from the clubs. There was there one very beutiful black girl, but she always was with guys around her, as I guess everybody wanted here... Me and my friend got in there once, but the waiter ignored us, I don't know why, so we left.

Cafe Exedra: Similar to Orleans, only with less girls. In my last day in the city I passed through this place, and noticed a great looking girl sitting there. I didn't waste time, and we began talking. She didn't know a word in English, so I had to use my lousy Spanish. Like people already wrote here, I realy advice everybody to learn some Spanish before your trip, it is a great advantage. Anyway, the girl's name was Yanina, and it was my best experience in the city. She wanted 200$, but I said I have only 100$ and that's the maximum I can give. She agreed. We went to a hotel (30$), and I realy enjoyed the time with here. Her body isn't perfect though (a little chubby). After the sex she gave me her phone number and e-mail, and I gave her a nice tip :-)

Cafe Milano: This is the Cafe with the lingerie waitresses. Didn't get in, but from the outside I saw the waitresses, one ugly and one average looking, doesn't seem very interesting.

Clarin ads: Oh, so cheap, it's amazing. And so many ads, almost for everything. The prices range from 10$ to 50$, but the problem is, of course, you can't see the girls before you take them. Also, you don't talk with them as you do in the clubs/cafes, so it's not a GFE (although they do kiss). I went to two/three ads, most of them have a place so you don't have to take them to your hotel. I decided to keep the beutiful girls for the clubs and cafes, and from Clarin I decided to fulfill two desires I had: To be with an old woman, and to be with a big black girl.
The places I went to were private and very safe. Although I'm a tourist, the prices were still low.
One word about the condom-less sex that was discussed here in the last weeks: I think many of the girls from Clarin don't use condoms. The three I was with didn't plan to use it until I demanded it (Personaly I'll never do an unprotected sex with a girl I just met).

Normal girls: Walking in the city centre, almost all girls looked at me like they are on sale. I can't explain it, but when you walk there, the girls are giving you signs that they are affordable (and I don't think it's because of my blue eyes...). In any case, this is a very nice feeling...
Of course, the only girl I tried offering money to didn't want anything to do with me... I saw a beutiful girl in Florida st,. I thought she is giving flyers for a clothing shop or something, but then she gave me a flyer for a show-club! I was sure it's my lucky day, told her she is very beutiful and invited here for a restaurant (I didn't want to be too direct, you know...). But she is probably used to this kind of offers, and she told me she works only in giving flyers and she doesn't "work" after work. We talked for a while, she was very nice, but didn't want to meet me after work. Too bad :-( Her name was Natalia and she give flyers to "Le Piaf" or something like that, so if someone knows here pls tell me!!! I'll be happy to fly back for Bs As just for her.

In conclusion, I had a great time in this great city. I didn't P4P enough because I was with a friend who wasn't into the hobby, but in my next visit I'll do much more (and probably do a little research on Montevideo and Asuncion too). Again, thanks to this form for the great help!

HappyGoLucky

06-12-03, 14:57

Holy macaroni Otto!
Maybe it's the bad weather!?
It sure is cold down there this time of year!
Meanwhile, Slick's headed for Cali this July;
sounds like an interesting place....
Keep the faith.

Bandy

06-12-03, 15:50

Happygolucky

Looks like you missed the "gist" of Otto's post altogether!
He is really pissed with all these constant gibberish about non- availability of superstar beauties. Right Otto?

Bandy

Starfe

06-12-03, 19:19

Yes, Otto is right:

I had a very difficult time meeting quality women there. I had plans of seeing 6 women a day and was disappointed with only 4 a day. I consider a trip like that a complete and utter disaster.

When will I ever learn.

Starfe

JamesBond69

06-12-03, 19:28

Originally posted by OttoGraham
Yeah, things are rotten in Buenos Aires.

Stay away, that's my advice! ;)

-Uncle Otto

Yes. Stay away (and keep the prices down for the rest of us).

All the action is in America and the "Girls Gone Wild", flashing their chest. Take my advice. Check out Boston for a wild time.

Jaimito Cartero

06-12-03, 20:17

Well, I´m a bit of retard, and entered the wrong email address. I talked to Joe, Elvis and Jackson this afternoon for a rendevous tonight.

I went searching for shoes this evening with no sucess. I always wear sandals and shorts in AZ. Say 363 days a year. I have one set of jeans and one pair of pants I had made in Bangkok last month.

I have wide feet and nothing was even slightly comfortable. I guess I´m used to looking silly, so will be wearing sandals tonight.

Again, my correct email for anyone who cares is-
jaimito_cartero@yahoo.com

See you guys tonight.

Downunder

06-12-03, 21:58

Sorry to ask a "dumb" question but who is Roxanna ??
Does she work for the WSG ?? I'am assuming she get's a commission from the hotels and the girls she arranges. Is it customary to tip her ?for her services??

HappyGoLucky

06-12-03, 23:26

Originally posted by downunder
"Sorry to ask a "dumb" question but who is Roxanna ??
Does she work for the WSG ?? I'am assuming she get's a commission from the hotels and the girls she arranges. Is it customary to tip her ?for her services??"

Roxana is a monger's concierge in Buenos Aires!
You can read all about her services on "Argentina Links."
or ask her:

Email: roxanainba@gmail.com Cell Phone: 15-5103-3905

When calling from the States, you must dial
011-54-9-11 and then the eight digit number XXXX-XXXX.
Do not dial the 15 unless you are in Buenos Aires.
54 is Argentina.
9 is a cell phone.
11 is Buenos Aires.

You will NOT be disappointed.

MeGustaBoliches

06-13-03, 12:56

Uncle Otto, The food stinks, too....smile....Ate at Clo Clos recently...Costanera y LaPampa....I could barely drink the wine and the lomo en pepper sauce was devoid of flavor and too chewy...followed by a mediocre session with a chica that thought she was a 10, but looked and perfomed like a two.....Cant wait to get back in the states where the steaks are soooo much better and the payforplay women are all outstanding.....BA is a wasteland...stay away.....

Actually, when are you coming? If I am still here I would like to get together....

Osterhasi

06-13-03, 13:07

I am going to BA next week can somebody tell me who his
Madahos and Ciccera?

Thanks for help

Madahos and Cicceros are are names of clubs, not people.

As to the answer to your question, please read the past reports.

Jackson

Roxanne

06-13-03, 13:15

Hi, guys!!!

As our King, Jackson the First, is back in Buenos Aires again, I want to invite you, the ones who are in the city, to a dinner on Sunday, 15th of June, at 21:00 in HAPPENING restaurant, in Avenida Alicia Moreau de Justo 310 in Puerto Madero.

Your Queen will be there as well as Princess Mayra and some other beauties, and of course you can bring some Ladies too.

I will need you to send me an email or call me at my mobile to confirm your assistance, until Saturday at 22:00hs.

See you then, Roxana.

email: roxanainba@gmail.com

mobile: 15 5 103 3905.

Ford Car

06-13-03, 15:29

Hla Amigos,

I tried to post a message yesterday and it did not seems to have registered.

I will be in Buenos Aires from Thursday, June 19th to Friday, June 27th. I'll be working but plan to enjoy my weekend there. Will anyone from this forum be there? I would enjoy meeting you.

Also, I will be travelling to Rio on the 27th of June. I will be in Rio for a month. It's work related but I plan to enjoy my weekends away from work.

Saludos,

Ford Car

Elvis

06-13-03, 17:32

Day One

After arriving in BA and settling in a suite rented from Bytargentina, which is one block away from Madahos and costs USD 150 p/week, I decided to phone up Gabi. I was quoted 80 pesos for an hour, full service, BBBJ, no CIM, mimosa (GFE)

She’s located in Lavalle 1768 Apartment 65 Phone 4372-2131
http://www.platynum.com.ar/Entretenimiento/Escorts/Gabi/Gabi1.htm

After entering the apartment, I thought a bait and switch was going to happen, as the same girl who opened the door got in the room and closed the door. She began to talk and ask some questions. Once that happen, I asked for Gabi again which is replied that she will go get her.

Once Gabi got into the room, she was wearing a short skirt and tight blouse, and looked very young. I rate Gabi a 6 in face and 6 body.

We start kissing (no GFE, just plain kisses) and then she begins with “pete sin”(BBBJ) which she does very well, then I put her on top and then finished after pounding that ass. The service was ok and she does have a great attitude, but I wouldn’t return. It just wasn’t that great !!

After this session, I’m wondering who I’m going to do in the afternoon so I start calling other girls from Platynum (Mirela) – doesn’t she look like a mamona ?? Big time dick sucker. Bad thing is she’s only available after 9 pm. Then I call Corina, Dickhead’s friend, no luck. What to do ?

I called my girlfriend to come over but she was only available after 8:30 pm. Great, sex before dinner !

At night, other mongers and I decided to meet up with Jackson in his apartment. After checking out some photos, we decide to eat at Tenorio’s. After dinner, we headed out to Estilo Nuevo. To our surprise, they moved to another building on the corner due to some “small problems” (political). Btw, if you want to take the girl out there are no rooms in the place, you’ll need to go to the motel close by.

Anyway, after Estilo Nuevo we went to Madahos and tons of bombones were there, it was so hard to decide. After Madahos we decided for Playwomen, where I met Karina and finally offered me, after doing some negotiation, 2 hours for 200 pesos. She’s good looking, great body but don’t expect GFE experience. She did BBBJ, not full service. Overall the experience was average, nothing great. We did, however, talk after having sex as I was curious to the average treatment and she claimed that she has been working 3 months and feels it’s an “obligation” so she can maintain her daughter. What a bummer..

Finally, I decided to go to the casino (cause there are no bars open after 5 am and the casino has beer and it’s open 24 hrs.). I won 100 pesos, lucky me..

I’l write more tomorrow.

TicToc

06-13-03, 17:57

I will arrive tomorrow 14th to BA and while I have a commitment ;) on Saturday and business on Sunday, would anyone be up to meet on Monday or Tuesday night?

After reading all of the posts and experiencing vicariously the life in BA, I probably should at least buy a round of drinks for all those who have paved the way.

I'll be in the NH Latino in the centro and look forward to meeting some of you.

OttoGraham

06-13-03, 18:21

Originally posted by MeGustaBoliches
Uncle Otto, The food stinks, too....smile....Ate at Clo Clos recently...Costanera y LaPampa....I could barely drink the wine and the lomo en pepper sauce was devoid of flavor and too chewy...followed by a mediocre session with a chica that thought she was a 10, but looked and perfomed like a two.....Cant wait to get back in the states where the steaks are soooo much better and the payforplay women are all outstanding.....BA is a wasteland...stay away.....

Actually, when are you coming? If I am still here I would like to get together....

Not exactly sure of the date yet. Mayri is going to get me a nice setup in a hotel, but the exact dates are going to depend on United's e-fares.

Shoot me an email at my handle at warm mail dot com, we can discuss.

-Uncle Otto

OutoftheGame

06-13-03, 18:57

Elvis and others,

Well I got back from my short trip to BA a few days ago and wanted to post on what I had found. This was more than just a mongering trip so I didn't sample a whole lot of ladies. The first nite in town I meet up with the ladies of the board,Roxanna and Mayri, we had a great dinner in Puerto Madero and we especially enjoyed the clown show (inside joke). After dinner I decided to check out my home away from home Madahos. It was a little before 4am and the place was packed but I was tired from the flight so just wanted to hang out and talk to some of the ladies I knew from before and my favorite waiter and bartender in the place. I hung out till closing time and went home alone. I did notice that alot of girls that I knew from before were not working but it was a Friday nite so many may have the nite off. Even with the high turn over of girls it was still the greatest place to go to in BA. I was informed that they were going to be closed that weekend due to construction so not to come back till Monday.

Sat. nite I meet Exon123 who was staying at the Etoile and we went to dinner and then onto the downtown clubs,Hooks and Cattos, these places seemed just the same and I noticed more girls from my previous trip, but I still enjoy the selection and atmosphere of Madahos better so I did not visit these clubs on any other nite in town. I did end up pulling a girl out of Cattos named Laura, she was older than I like 27 and blond which is another no no of my but it was late and I needed to get laid. We agreed on 300pesos for all nite but after 2 hours she gave me some BS about going to a party with her friends so I gave her 200pesos and she left.

Sunday nite was very bad, only place I checked out was Playwoman and it was dead. I did run into a girl that I knew from Madahos so we chatted for a few hours and then I went home again alone. I was thinking of taking her back with me but she is a friend of a friend and I just wasn't that attracted to her. But I did notice Playwoman having a better selection of girls from when I was in town before.

Monday was probably the best day, I had some things to take care of but my buddy needed to take care of some business and could not wait till the clubs opened. I had brought a few girls pictures that I printed from Platynum and he fell in love with the great ass of Caro, so I called her up on her cell and she said she could be there in 30min. So I left and told my buddy to give me full details when I returned. Well a few hours later he meet up with me at the HJB bar and was amazed by this girl. It was 150pesos an hour, and in the description she says she's 21 but she is actually 26. But in his words she is very beautiful. And that ass is better looking in person. So for those of you looking for a nice afternoon internet chica I'd give her a call, and she has a very sexy voice.

So know we went off to Madahos to see the Grand Re-opening, when I walked into the place I was amazed, the place in huge now, they knocked out some walls and moved the bar and stage. And on top on this they made all the girls dress in evening dresses, now for me I find a well dressed lady 10 times better looking than a girl wearing some mini-skirt and a bikini top, they just look more like ladies to me. So my buddy gets a little down when he sees a girl he knows with another guy and wants to leave, I insist he stay and invite Violeta and her friend Barbara or Barbi to join us. Now from my last trip I was with Violeta and wasn't all that impressed,but she gave me some very important information so I felt inclined so at least buy her a few drinks. Well as the drinks kept coming I figured on asking a little question to Violeta. I always thought Barbara had a great body but figured her to be a dud in bed, but if we did a little switching that nite then I could get more bang for the buck. So I told Violeta that all 4 of us would go back to our Apt. and when I was finished with her that I wanted her to go with my buddy and have Barbara come with me. "NO PROBLEM" damn what a country, in the states you'd be in jail for just thinking something like that. Well needless to say we had a great time that nite and Barbara was a lot better in bed then I was expecting. Oh by the way if "Yeah Baby" is reading this she says hi!

Tuesday was another day filled with errands and things to do besides looking for girls. The nite before I was given some valuable information from Violeta on a club I should visit called "COCODRILO" now I think Andres might have mentioned this place before but many others don't know about this place. First of all it's on Gallo and Paraguay, so its a little out of the way compaired to other clubs, but it is the place to be when everything else has closed. Most of the girls from other clubs go to dance and maybe pick up a late date at this place, I was in this club 3 nites and I saw girls from Madahos,Playwoman, Shampoo, and Blacks, now for many of you this won't be your thing, it is definitly a younger crowd I'd say 40 and under, but for those of you that find yourself alone at 5am don't give up hope I was in this place till 8am and it was still packed, most of the girls from the other clubs don't show up till 6am but they have plenty of girls working that are very attractive. So you can even get there at 2am and find some true knockouts. And the greatest thing about this place is you can get the girls very cheap, it is not a place for businessmen or tourists to hang out I would not pay more than 100pesos for a girl here.

to be continued......

Andres

06-13-03, 20:36

About Cocodrilo:

It is (or used to be) a hit or miss place, since some nights rocks and others sucks. You need to visit it several times to assess it.

The reason of my post is to warn you guys about a dark side of Cocodrilo. Many girls positively told me that drugs use and trade are common there, so if you see too many people going too often to the toilets, hit the road! The last thing that you want is the Police busting the place with yourselves inside.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Jaimito Cartero

06-13-03, 20:37

Well last night was an interesting one in BA. I got to meet a lot of the good guys in town. Jackson, Exon, Elvis and Joe.

Jackson is pretty laid back, and I think Exon was showering a little too much love on him, but he does deserve it.

I was bummed out about Nuevo Estillo. The girls were cute there, but I was looking for bump and grind girl action. Oh well, I´ll live.

I´ll skip most of the portions Elvis has already posted about. I´m a bit of a deer in the headlights at places like Madahos. I like to check out all the girls, and would have spent 3 or 4 hours just checking them out.

Playwoman was a nicer since it´s smaller and easier to survey the chicas in todo.

Joe has told me some great stories about the girls he had taken from Hook and Catto near closing time. Being a ecomically minded SOB, that sounded interesting.

Joe had to practically bend my fingers back to get me to select a girl. He had his nice Dominicana for the second time, and I had a nice slim Paraguayan sitting on my lap. She looked good, but, I being an optimist kept looking around a bit.

By the way, Joe, I hope you really post. The info you have locked in your head would help all us guys out!

I started by making sure that Marta (The Paraguyan) would do everything I wanted. She started out at the normal 200 pesos per hour.

Joe had told me that he had gotten his for TLN for 150 earlier in the week, so 200 an hour was not for me. I bargained for 2 hours, for 150. She did keep asking for drinks and such even while I was wanting to go.

A quick description. She´s about 5´7, small B breasts, slim, little ass. Kisses pretty nicely, has bleached blonde (almost white hair). She looks a little like Rene Zellweger in Chicago, except, say after she´s been pounded hard for 5 years...

On the way to the Dazzler, we kissed a bit, and since the fair was less than 2 pesos, it wasn´t expensive. However, the taxi driver pulled the old 5 peso change for a 10 peso bill. Just mutter a little bit and get out of the cab.

I try to walk her into the elevator, but the front desk wants her ID.

We go to the room, and I take pictures in every state of clothed/unclothed. She´s very cooperative. She did ask for the money up front, which I quickly told her she wasn´t getting then.

We take a shower together, and we both get lathered up well. We then go to the bed, where she proceeds to give me an okay massage. She even has her own lotion.

I start to ask her a few questions. In the club she was 23, then in the room, she admitted 26, and then finally 33. She does have a 10 inch C section scar, but the rest of the package is pretty nice.

She guided my head down to her pussy in record time, and was getting wet in seconds. I ended up eating her for a LONG time. Maybe 75 or 80 minutes. By the time I was totally tuckered out, she wanted to go to sleep for awhile.

Only one problem. My poor dick was hard as a rock! I said, what the hell, and fell asleep.

About 11am, I wake up, and she´s ready, awake and willing. She was having a problem with one of her teeth, so wasn´t in a super sucking mood. However, she did quite well, none the less, and it didn´t take long to shoot all over her!

Now comes a little bit of a problem. She doesn´t want to leave. She orders room service, and then talks about being my guide for the rest of the day. And she mentions the bad ´S´word. Shopping.

I call up Joe to see how he did with his second timer, and I wake the poor guy up. He still has his, and goes back to sleep.

It takes a lot of talking, but FINALLY at 5pm I get her to go downstairs with me, and I drop some laundry off and I say goodbye. I paid her what I negotiated the night before, since I didn´t ask, or really want an all nighter. I did tip her a bit more, but I knew if she didn´t go then I would NOT be able to get rid of her.

Attitude 7, looks 7, skill 7. The main thing that bothered me about her is that even when we were getting it on at night, she was still trying to get it up to 200 pesos.

BA_Robert

06-13-03, 23:37

About Cocodrilo:

Very crowded place. Look out for pick-pocket thiefs. I know of some mongers who almost got their wallets stolen at the bar. Quite common from what I've heard. This could, of course, happen anywhere in the world. The place is worth checking out.

Jaimito Cartero

06-14-03, 00:36

I had wanted to check out a Clarin girl, so I called up Roxana tonight and gave her my laundry list of stuff I wanted.

She called back awhile later and had ´Bebe´or something like that. Real name was, of course different. A real stunner,

1.70 meters tall, light brown, reddish hair. 100 chest (D cup, I´d say). Very accomodating in all respects, great attitude, funny and one I´d repeat again, without question.

Cost - 60 pesos 1/hr, +10 pesos for bus. I had thought I might get her for two hours, but she wore the hell out of me in less than an hour.

Roxana has her contact details if you´d like her. She´s from northern Argentina, 20 years old, very fair complection, and kisses like a nun on holiday. I think her real name is Nielda.

I´m done for today, mongering wise... Maybe a late dinner and a movie!

Yeah Baby

06-14-03, 00:38

Outofthegame,

Thanks for the update on Barbi, she has a great rack and is good in the sack, unfortunately, she has a problem with staying the entire night but I think she is still worth spending time with. By the way, did you run into your's and your friends ex. Would like to know how that was like. Hope to be in B.A. soon, until than, you guys have fun shagging. Yeah Baby

OutoftheGame

06-14-03, 06:41

Yeah Baby,

Yes we ran into my buddies girl she picked us up at the airport, but the first couple of days she acted so crazy. That is why we went to Madahos on Monday and she was working so my friend was so confused about what was going on that I insisted on Violeta getting Barbi to take his mind off her. Well the good news is after that nite they worked things out and things returned to normal between them. I know all of you say not to get involved with the girls but some of us are nice guys and aren't out to hurt anyone.

Getting back to the comments on Cocodrilo, I'm sure all clubs have a negitive or sleezy side to them. I noticed a few girls going back and forth to the bathroom especially one nite when 2 girls were only dancing with each other and giving each other lap dances and occasionally kissing on the dance floor. One of them had sunglasses on the whole time as well so I'm sure they were pretty high. As far as the pick pocketing goes I don't allow easy access to my money anywhere I go so I wouldn't worry about that, just don't carry your life savings on you. Andres you also said it was a hit or miss place. I went on a Tuesday nite, Wednesday nite and Saturday nite and the talent was great on all of them. Especially on Wednesday nite they had some special theme going on, all the waiters and bartenders wore Egyptian costumes and the place was really packed. They charge 30pesos to get in that nite but on the other nites no charge, but the drinks are more than I expected at 20pesos each. But again this place isn't for everyone just if you're into the late nite early morning scene and aren't ready to call it quits at 4am. One other thing that one of the girls told me but I didn't check to see if it's true or not is that some of the girls that show up later are actually guys. Again I can't be sure about this but you might want to ask to see the goods before you take a girl out of the place.

Now onto the rest of my trip. Wednesday I met with Exon and took him to Nuevo Estillo, now like others have mentioned it was closed, but should be open again by now, the girl I talked to said it would reopen on the Thursday the 12th. But it was not a loss. The cafe right next to it is where most of the girls decided to conduct business for the time being, the bad part is that I could not introduce Exon to the famous "Lesbian" show. This place still confuses me and maybe another question Andres can answer. This club is meant for local Argentine men, but I was quoted 130pesos for 30min. Now I know that no regular Argentine man is paying that kind of money. So what is the real rate these girls are getting from working. So since I was insulted Exon and I decided to leave. It was late for Exon about 4am so we parted ways and I checked out Madahos first and it was dead so I jumped in the cab and headed to Cocodrilo, the funny thing is that about 3 other cabs were going too. So we all raced in the street to see who one. This was the nite that they had the little theme party going on so the place was really packed when I got there. Unfortunatly I waited to long to grab the girl I wanted and she left and never returned. You'd think as long as I've being mongering I would know by now that when you see a girl you want you have to taked her. Live and learn I guess.

Thursday nite arrived and I began to realize that my stay was coming to an end and I really hadn't found a girl whose company I enjoyed. So I decided to try something different and visit Blacks to see what could be fished out. Well the place was crowed with your businessmen/lost tourists and seemed to have alot more guys than ladies. The second bad thing was it was so crowded you had a hard time getting a look at all the girls working. I did chat with one girl, well actually she started talking to me and since I told her I was from the states she asked the usual is this your first time in BA etc etc..... when I told her I was in BA before for a month she was very suprized and was curious why I hadn't been to Blacks, well I'm a very honest person and told her that the girls ask for to much money and I preferred going to Madahos, so she called me a traitor and we joked around more. So when she asked me to take her back to my place I asked how much? "300 dollars" she said. Well that's exactly why I don't come to this place, you think all of us Americans are stupid and have money to burn. She got a little defensive and tried to defend herself but she really pushed a button on me. How in the world can I be 8000 miles from the US and you tell some price in dollars. She tried to explain that it was easier for the American men to understand when she gives prices in dollars, well she ends up leaving for 300pesos for all nite. So the moral of this story and one I found out the fallowing nite as well is that alot of the girls from Blacks will go home for the same price as a girl from Madahos, just don't expect the girl you see coming and going every couple of hours to be that one.

to be continued....

OutoftheGame

06-14-03, 06:57

Yeah Baby,

I forgot to mention that on Wednesday nite when the 3 cabs went racing to Cocodrilo, Barbi was in one of the cabs, she left Madahos with her other friend that has the tattoo on her breast and a couple of guys. They partied until about 7am so I don't think she has a problem staying all nite as long as you get her near the end of the nite and take her out for awhile. I imagine spending 4 or 5 hours of having sex isn't very appeling to her, but if you take her out dancing and a few more drinks and show her a good time then she'll be all yours.

Andres

06-14-03, 15:54

outofthegame:

I think that Nuevo Estilo has some particular features that make it special:

- Many of its customers go there just to take a beer with friends and watch the shows.

- It is located in a very discreet but affluent area of the city (Bajo Belgrano)

- It is very difficult to get there by bus, subway or walking

That said, I think that Nuevo Estilo caters to those who:

- are married and cannot go to the Downtown/Recoleta boliches for hours (price not being an issue, since NE prices per hour are more expensive than those at Recoleta boliches)

- cannot expose themselves with a young lady in the streets of Recoleta

- are interested in just watching or in a quick session.

For those who don't care to be seen with a girl or who enjoy the whole night for hobbying, Nuevo Estilo becomes inconvenient.

Respect to Cocodrilo, my visits were scattered once every other month (that is, once every 2 months) for a time span of 8 years, so maybe the place is continuously high now but may not be the case by August / September.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Jak

06-14-03, 21:10

Went to Madahos last night for the first time this trip. I was surprised with the re-modeling since I had not checked this forum lately. It is bigger now, and one of the chicas said they did it over the weekend a few weeks ago. Entrance (good for one local drink)and local beer drinks are now 25 pesos.
The place had more chicas then guys this night, so the women seemed a little more aggressive. I just wanted to hang out and observe a lot (since I'm still tired from the long flight) The quality seemed similar to when I was here about two months ago. Even though I am rather picky, there were still two or three I would have left with if I had been in the mood. It still seemed packed even with the extra space.
Unlike a recent poster stated, the women were not wearing evening gowns. They were dressed in the usual variety. The dancing stage appears bigger though, and it seemed that more chicas were going up to dance than I recall last time.
I was surprised at the number of chicas for a Friday night since Monday is a holiday. My impression was that holiday weekends are especially bad for the scene. Maybe tonight will be different.

B69

06-14-03, 22:55

Outofthegame,

Concerning Estilo Nuevo, when I went back there Late April, the night when the first Clarin Monger Convention took place, I saw this cutie, Leila, whom I had been with in December. I asked for her "fees". She first quoted me Peso 220 an hour, which she then brought down to Peso 200.

I first thought I was getting a non-local price. So I asked an Argentine guy whether he could do me the favor of browsing around and ask for prices. He got quoted the same price as I.

Conclusion: Estilo Nuevo is definitely expensive for BA, for the reasons Andres has mentioned. In any case, I can assure all of you that there is an amazing quality of chicks. So maybe it is worth it...

Guillermo

06-14-03, 23:04

NEB is on my list of places to visit when I am in BA next week (the good Lord willing, and the creek don't rise).

There's a couple of things I wanted to clarify....

Is it open? I've read some posts that said it was closed? Is that true? Is it going to re-open?

Also, there have been some mixed messages on whether or not you can take the chicas out of the club. Some swear that it's strictly on premises consumption. But others have reported taking girls out of the club, back to their apt. or hotel room, not just to the rooms next door.

I'm not big on the 20 min. wham-bam-thank-you-m'am sort of thing.

Thanks,

Guillermo

JustGotBack

06-14-03, 23:48

Originally posted by Guillermo
NEB is on my list of places to visit when I am in BA next week (the good Lord willing, and the creek don't rise).

There's a couple of things I wanted to clarify....

Is it open? I've read some posts that said it was closed? Is that true? Is it going to re-open?

I hope it's not closed. My favorite girl works there.

As for the 130 pesos price. I wouldn't worry about getting a tourist price versus a local price. My belief is that the price is just the price. It's fixed regardless of the girl or the client. If you ask, they actually have a fixed list of prices depending on time. It's been this way since before it got over run by the international monger.

Dickhead

06-15-03, 00:10

Hey Elvis, Corina is in Arizona now with some guy. Sorry about that. Also re Estilo Nuevo Boliche 200 is too much to pay. 120 for 20 minutes or 150 for 40 is how I remember it. Tipping not really necessary. But per Jaimito it is not really a strip bar and the girls will not approach you unless you approach them first. I like that. But arrange a cab with management cuz there's not many around at night in that part of the 'hood.

OutoftheGame

06-15-03, 17:00

Jak,

Madahos had the ladies dress in evening dressess just on the Monday nite when it re-opened, all the other nites the ladies wore normal attire.

Andres,

Thanks for the info on NEB, I agree with your thoughts and know that this place is especially popular with the guys for bachlor parties so I guess if everyone pitched in to get a girl for thier buddy it's not that much but on a whole it's not a good place to go if your looking for a bargin.

Getting back to Madahos and the ladies being more aggresive, when I went on Friday nite I was getting bugged alot by the girls especially the ugly ones for a drink. I usually enjoy sitting alone and observing which girl I want to leave with. I finally got tired of girls coming up to me so when Melina came up to me to say hello, I had talked to her on my first nite, I asked hher to sit with me to have a drink. I did not plan on leaving with her I just enjoyed talking to her and did not want to be bothered anymore. Well we chatted for awhile and I was asking her how she liked the changes in the club. She commented that it is much worse now because most guys come to the club now and just come to drink and watch the shows and don't leave with the girls. I discussed this with another girl on a prrvious nite as well. I think Jackson will agree with my point here that most of the Argentine men that are in these places never leave with a girl only talk to them and maybe buy a drink. So alot of the girls income depends on the tourists that visit. So when I finally decided to leave with Melina I asked her how much, she told me 200pesos, so I asked for how long and she said as long as I wanted it was after 3am so she did not need to return to the chub for the evening, so we left and she did not leave my Apt until 2pm the following day. My point is that since it is the cold season and not to many tourists are visiting the girls I believe are very open to taking a reasonable offer, it is definitlely a buyers market. The girls have alot of competition among each other and we have to remember that, so when you start to discuss prices I would start pretty low. I mean a girl might ask you for some crazy price at first but in her mind she's trying to make enough money on one tourist to support her for the whole month. And I wouldn't go with any girl before 3am in your looking for a bargin, I arrived at 11pm one nite and the girls where very aggresive. Be patient and be in control.

Elvis

06-15-03, 17:32

outofthegame, I completely agree with you as far the girls from Madahos being aggresive. I was discussing this with Patricia in Madaho's but she claims that paying clients- 70% are argentinos the 30 are tourists. This seems to be contradicting what all the chicas say at other clubs and Madahos. Who knows..

Dickhead, what a shame !! I was looking forward to meeting Corina. Oh well. Hope you’re doing well in Mexico

Here's my report, although it's two days late

Day 2 (Friday)

I had decided not to monger this night, so I decided to hook up with a local group interested in practicing their English. Anyway, there I meet an Aussie and American who have never been to the boliches or apartments. Lucky they found me, because I suggested Madahos because I really wanted to see Diana again, the girl I met on Thursday night and wanted to take, but I’d decided instead for Karina from Playwoman. Diana has a cute face and petite body. At the club, Diana IMO had a great personality but after she start rubbing me down and shaking her ass up against me, she offered complete service, BBBJ, GFE for 200 pesos 1 ½ hrs, which was ok by me because I really, really wanted her ( I had been drinking since the afternoon).

We get to the apartment, settle down, undress and as I’m leaning to kiss her, she asks for her 200 pesos upfront. Oh no!!! Not this shit. I’ve never had a club chica ask for money upfront. After this happened I got upset and told her off. She still demanded her money and claimed she’s been threaten and clients have not paid her, and I still said no and used the example that I’m a foreigner and I’m looking for a good time, I wouldn’t consider ripping her off as long as she provides me with great service. Even after this, she still wants the money and doesn’t want to leave. Her idea was to leave after I finish and not stay the 1 ½ hours we agreed. At this point I get mad and get dressed, and she looks surprised by my action and starts smiling, however she still doesn’t want to budge.

After 20 minutes she gives up and wants cab fare. Now I started laughing !! This girl is amazing, I don’t know how many pendejos she has ripped off but dealing with her was funny. While we are talking, she starts kissing and hugging me, and I would never refuse kisses from a good looking chica (even if I’m mad). She left, no peso was given to her. Finally!

Now, I’m horny, it’s 6:30 am and I also need beer. I’ll have sex first, then get beer. I decide to call Milena www.gemidos.com.ar (Mylena- Platynum) who I wanted to hook up with yesterday. We agreed to 80 pesos for an hour, it’s 60 pesos for ½, plus 10 pesos for cab. She offers complete service, BBBJ, GFE, No CIM, libre participacion (you can come as many times within your time limit). In the pictures (gemido) she looks fabulosa, muy linda but when she arrived she’s above average looking (6 or 7). I didn’t care, so we started undressing and she has such a petite body, very soft skin. The best was when I started to touch her concha which was so wet, while she was doing the “pete sin” BBBJ.
She’s no dick sucker but she’s so great when I touched her, because the GFE was so great and she genuinely wanted to please me too. I had a great time and maybe would do it again, but I wouldn’t recommend. I was happy though !!

Elvis

06-15-03, 17:34

Day 3

I decided to wake up Jaime and see if he wanted to eat first and then check out an apartment in Flores, which I read about in escorts59 group. We head to Comer Guido and they have such a great selection of food (it’s been mentioned before here, so I’m not going to review it.

From Recoleta to Flores it’s a 9-10 peso ride and the neighborhood is decent, it didn’t appear dangerous. The intersection I believe is Alvarez and you can definitely catch a taxi there without a problem. The address is Yerbal 1748 Phone 4632-9105.(they do not work Sundays). The place is big, it has 2 rooms available, they’re remodeling another one so they can use it, which is used for a waiting room). There are 4 girls working in the apartment, one is famous for her good, wild service, Cindy. Jaime had Jessica, what a doll !! ;) Those two were the only available at the moment, so it was agreed for 1 hour service. Cindy (6) is young, petite, great attitude(8), lots of tattoos. I paid 60 pesos for complete service, libre participacion, BBBJ, GFE and she does CIM. (note: the price is advertised for 50 pesos but an additional 10 pesos was to give it to her in the orto (anal). ?? I didn’t care. Also, ½ is advertised for 30 pesos, complete service, BBBJ, no libre participacion (u cum once)

She started giving me a massage (not the best) and then French kiss me. Great !! This girl is attentive and likes to kiss you everywhere. The blow job was fabuloso and after 15 mins of pete, I wanted her wet concha. This girl is a pro, she would do everything is make you happy and has a great attitude. We did it only once, I lasted 50 minutes and then decided to take a shower while Jaime was getting it on. I’m definitely seeing this bombon tomorrow, even though she will not be working at the apartment. Monday is Flag Day and many places are going to be closed, but she’s willing to meet up with me.

Great place, I definitely recommend it !!

It’s late now, we both hang out for a bit and decide to meet up with Joe and Exon, to check out his chica and say farewell, it was his last night. Exon, my respects..
Anyway, we’re all hungry and head out to a parrilla. (sorry, forgot the name). At this point, I’m thinking about getting a chica toda la noche for a good price. Reason: I was so anxious about going to Club Pacha, the largest house, techno club in BA, and going there with someone. After dinner we went to Joe’s favorite boliche, Affaire to find a girl for me. After meeting two girls, I decided on Yanina (from Quilmes) who quoted me 150 pesos TLN and 100 peso fine (4 drinks). She claims she likes techno and rock, that was enough for me. All of us decide to meet up at the Casino Flotante in Puerto Madero and play some blackjack.

Enough of the casino, Yanina and I head out to the Aeroparque zone where Club Pacha is located. OMG, this place is huge and worst of all, there’s a line. Coming from NY, I don’t make lines and so I approached a security guy to let me in and allow me to tip him. He said no, so I told him that my gf and I are foreigners and it was our first time here.It worked and I didn’t pay him.. If you like house and techno, you’ll love this place even though it’s overcrowded (there were at least 3,000)

After Pacha we head to my apartment and notice Yanina is acting a bit cold with me. In the apartment, she becomes more affectionate but the poor girl couldn’t handle the 45 minute sex session while using a ribbed condom (she loved it). She’s been in the business for 1 month and not used it. What a shame!! But I kinda fell for her so we exchanged phones and addresses. That was my night.

B69

06-15-03, 19:17

Guillermo,

Estilo Nuevo has a couple of hotels next door where you can rent a room for a couple of hours. The rooms are really very nice.

Yes, I have taken a girl out back to my appartment. You need to pay a "fine" for that, but it can be done.

You can also arrange to see the girl back at your place after five am, time when ENB closes, discreetly that is, withouth the watch dog at the entrance understanding what you are up to.

Another option is giving her your phone number or taking hers. But you must be very cautious and discreet as a girl could loose her "job" in ENB if she is caught doing that.

Enjoy.

Nodd_N

06-15-03, 21:22

Thinking about setting up shop in BA for a while.. Can someone tell me how much DSL of at least 256K would cost a month.
Also any information on DirecTV or Cable TV and a Cable modem..
I plan on staying there for 3 months....

JustGotBack

06-15-03, 23:57

Originally posted by Nodd_N
Thinking about setting up shop in BA for a while.. Can someone tell me how much DSL of at least 256K would cost a month.
Also any information on DirecTV or Cable TV and a Cable modem..
I plan on staying there for 3 months....

Smart. I thought about doing that but I blew it when I had the time and money.

Why do you need a cable modem if you're going to get DSL?

JustGotBack

06-15-03, 23:59

Originally posted by b69
Guillermo,

Estilo Nuevo has a couple of hotels next door where you can rent a room for a couple of hours. The rooms are really very nice.
Enjoy.

Is there a separate fee for a room now or is that still covered in the girls fee?

Osterhasi

06-16-03, 06:22

Originally posted by Osterhasi
I am going to BA next week can somebody tell me who his
Madahos and Ciccera?

Thanks for help

Madahos and Cicceros are are names of clubs, not people.

As to the answer to your question, please read the past reports.

Jackson

I know I would like to know where this clubs are placed in BA

Thanks

Madahos is on the corner of Asquenga and Vincente Lopez. Ciceron is on Guido near Junin.

Nodd_N

06-16-03, 11:05

Justgotback.

I don't need both. I was wondering what the availability and costs would be for each so I might choose.......

I also want to rent an apt. with eiher Cable TV or DirecTV.....

El Ricardo

06-16-03, 11:20

Hola outofthe game!
I should change my name to outoftouch! Thanks for the update...happy to see you're still a part of the game! I've not been following this Forum for a while (work gets in the way,) but I've been trying to find a way to either get away to BA for a while, or go to Spain and take a BA favorite with me (I've talked with a couple of them about it, and I have some encouragement that they would go for the price of the ticket and expenses i while there.) One of MY little fantasies!
How long are you there? I'm thinking of July or August if I come to BA for a fantasy vacation, or October for a trip to Espana. This will be out of phase with you?
ER

Originally posted by outofthegame
Jak,

Madahos had the ladies dress in evening dressess just on the Monday nite when it re-opened, all the other nites the ladies wore normal attire.

Andres,

Thanks for the info on NEB, I agree with your thoughts and know that this place is especially popular with the guys for bachlor parties so I guess if everyone pitched in to get a girl for thier buddy it's not that much but on a whole it's not a good place to go if your looking for a bargin.

Getting back to Madahos and the ladies being more aggresive, when I went on Friday nite I was getting bugged alot by the girls especially the ugly ones for a drink. I usually enjoy sitting alone and observing which girl I want to leave with. I finally got tired of girls coming up to me so when Melina came up to me to say hello, I had talked to her on my first nite, I asked hher to sit with me to have a drink. I did not plan on leaving with her I just enjoyed talking to her and did not want to be bothered anymore. Well we chatted for awhile and I was asking her how she liked the changes in the club. She commented that it is much worse now because most guys come to the club now and just come to drink and watch the shows and don't leave with the girls. I discussed this with another girl on a prrvious nite as well. I think Jackson will agree with my point here that most of the Argentine men that are in these places never leave with a girl only talk to them and maybe buy a drink. So alot of the girls income depends on the tourists that visit. So when I finally decided to leave with Melina I asked her how much, she told me 200pesos, so I asked for how long and she said as long as I wanted it was after 3am so she did not need to return to the chub for the evening, so we left and she did not leave my Apt until 2pm the following day. My point is that since it is the cold season and not to many tourists are visiting the girls I believe are very open to taking a reasonable offer, it is definitlely a buyers market. The girls have alot of competition among each other and we have to remember that, so when you start to discuss prices I would start pretty low. I mean a girl might ask you for some crazy price at first but in her mind she's trying to make enough money on one tourist to support her for the whole month. And I wouldn't go with any girl before 3am in your looking for a bargin, I arrived at 11pm one nite and the girls where very aggresive. Be patient and be in control.

Boofer

06-16-03, 14:06

advise for vacation guys. South America is totally new to me. Do you advie Argentina for Vacation? I'm used to Eastern European chicks, does Buenos Aires compare to Moscow???

The talent on the websites seems too good to be true. I don't speek a word of spanish but dark in colour and look latin due to Greek blood. should I hook up with Roxanne??

appreciate your input since I can travel there half July.

B69

06-16-03, 16:28

Justgotback,

As far as Slick1 and I were concerned, we had to pay an extra Peso 35 for the room.

Maybe a tough negociator on a bad night might be able to discount it from the girl´s rate. Possible..., though we did not try.

Back then, ENB had some a few rooms upstairs. But they were not great and one could get "interrupted". This is why we both went to the hotels literally next door to have a nice and impeccable room for the shagfest.

Hope this helps.

Jak

06-16-03, 17:49

boofer -

I've travelled to E. Europe the last three years almost exclusively -I was in Russia for about five weeks total last year. I personally think the Slavic chicks are the most beautiful in general. So when I came to B.A. for the first time a few months ago, I needed to find something on the upside with the chica behavior to draw me back. In general, I find the GFE to be much more prevalent here. The chicas have no problem french kissing with passion, and it's a bit more common to find the women to be more passionate. Also, a general tendency in the Russian women seem to be the impulse to try to "dominate" more. The Latinas here seem more willing to follow. Either way, they both respect strength in a man, and this translates in drawing clear lines with what behavior you'll tolerate from them.
I don't know about the web-chicas - I prefer to see and feel what I'm going to get instead of a surprise at the door. Spanish helps a lot down here, just like Russian taps a whole new scene over there. I have a basic Spanish level, and it definitely has helped. At a place like Madahos, I have met many chicas with some basic English. Our "basics" together have worked out pretty well.

Jak

06-16-03, 18:17

Went to Madahos at about 2:00 on Saturday night. There was about a 50% reduction in chica population then the night before. I was bummed at first since I was set to pull this night and was feeling well-rested. In the spirit of "it only takes one", I quickly found one that I was into. Her quote was US$150 at about 3:00 for two hours. I went through the usual "that's a dumb American price", "I only pay in pesos in Argentina", to "I never pay more than 100 pesos an hour - ever". She worked down quickly to my price (she said 200 pesos was better than no pesos - slow night means maybe going home alone, although this mentality doesn't seem to apply at Hooks and Cattos - another story for me or Elvis to post on). She said since it was 3:00 she wouldn't be coming back to the club. For bargain hunters, or those wanting a TLN at a cheaper rate, pulling after 3:00 can be a worthwhile game. She ended up staying until 1 PM and was happy with the 200 pesos we agreed on (gave her a 10% tip - don't spoil them too much). Nice experience. I made it clear I didn't want any BS about price, "pay me before", or "we didn't agree to that" nonsense before we left the club. I think clarifying all these details twice before leaving is becoming more and more important. I've heard some real "horror" stories in the short time I've been here.

Roxanne

06-16-03, 18:48

Hi, Guys!!!

Yesterday night we had our dinner at Happening.

I want to thank all of you, that were part of the group, Jaimito cartero, Joe, Elvis, George, Jak, Capt. Dave, Preston, Bandy, Brian and the beauties Mayra, Maria Cristhina, Maria M. and a pretty chica.

And of course Jackson the First, who put energy again into the WSGCharities fund, so we can contribute with the Argentinians in a difficult situation without forgetting our hobby!!!!

Kisses, The Queen.

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OutoftheGame

06-16-03, 18:53

El Ricardo,

Good to hear from you, I hoped to see Patricia when I was in town to talk about old times but she wasn't working but might be back now. I did not see your girl at Hook's either but I visited only 1 nite so she might of been off, I did see the ***** bartender and luckily she did not try to screw me. My buddy went to Mendoza for a couple of days and really enjoyed it. I hope you get to go soon or take your beauty to Espana. Don't be such a stranger.

Jak,

Sat. and Sunday are the worst nites, but you can definitley get a bargin on those nites. I can't believet the first price you got quoted but thanks to the board you knew better and got a fair price out of her. Hope to hear more reports from everyone down in BA it really helps me get thru my days here in the USA.

Exon123

06-16-03, 19:20

Exon is home safe and sound and has much to report --- Hes sorry to have missed dinner Sunday night but the plane reservations were made and it was really too late to change them --- Since theres much to post and Im tired from the flight I will post only one observation and continue for the next few days --- And the observation is --- DON"T TAKE THE SUNDAY NIGHT FlGHT --- If at all possiable and for most Mongers it should be as we have discressionary time frames we can opporate in --- Don't take the Sunday night flight simply for the reason its packed --- I asked when checking in and the answer was the weekend flights are always booked solid --- Seams that all the B.A. business men and everyone else wants to be in Miami first thing Monday morning --- And for that reason, don't take the Sunday night flight --- I was told by the American Airlines check in people that your odds of getting two and possiably three empty seats next to you are much greater durning the mid week days and there for you can lay down and sleep --- If you fly on Sunday you are assured of having just one seat to be trapped in for 8 1/5 hours to Miami --- To be continued --- Exon

Andres

06-16-03, 20:07

exon123:

I think that the mileage programs impact on that. In my case, I was able to book on Sundays when redeeming miles.

Andres

El Ricardo

06-17-03, 09:36

outofthegame,
I was in BA during the month of May, and actually saw both Patricia and Beatriz (I also saw Ms. Bartender at Hooks, but had learned my lesson and brought smaller denominations of money!) I exchange e-mails with Patricia periodically, and know that she was sick a week or so ago (like in bed for three days!)

I've also been watching some of the prices for short notice trips to BA with United, and they are really cheap ($480) . Its more a question now of finding the time at work. I plan on spending two weeks in Argentina during November (for work)...but always a little time for play! So if I do a week long trip to Spain, and want to take another trip down there because I miss it so much, I would have to limit myself to a long weekend in BA. Seems like a lot of work to get there for such a short time period? Oh well, this too will get sorted out with time!

BTW...I sent a note off to Gabriel...have you heard from him? Also exchanged an e-mail with MRLA, and he's thinking of a trip in July. What about Tommy?
ER

Jaimito Cartero

06-17-03, 15:01

Well I´m just getting ready to leave in an hour and a half or so. Walking around 9 de Julio looking for some gifts to bring back.

A couple of quick notes. If your girl wants to bring a girlfriend along to movies and dinner, *don´t* assume she is there for nothing. It´s awfully hard to turn down two girls on your final night. Especially ones who love to pose for pictures.

The dinner at Las Lilas last night was nice. It´s almost embarrassing to be asked if I was Jackson (since I had two girls, I guess Tik Tok just assumed). Ah, Argentina!

JustGotBack

06-18-03, 03:47

Originally posted by elricardo
outofthegame,
I've also been watching some of the prices for short notice trips to BA with United, and they are really cheap ($480) . Its more a question now of finding the time at work.

Absolutely. My travelocity price alerts go from 700 one day to 485 the next day and then back again. You can also get it much cheaper as well. Last year I got it for $300 with taxes for departure the next day. It didn't show up on with the lowest price offer on travelocity or elsewhere. I was just typing random dates on the UAL website and it showed up.

What do you do to be lucky enough to go on business trips to BA?

Jak

06-18-03, 21:01

After the dinner at Happening, many of us went over to Hooks and Cattos (right next door to each other). I was pretty tired and not interested in pulling this night, but I did not want to pass up an opportunity to check out these two places with the guys. I was surprised to see about three very doable chicas at Hooks (its a smaller place). Jackson pulled the best looking one there, even though we heard later he popped for the 150 pesos an hour - come on Jackson, the men need leadership! :)) After checking out Cattos and going back to Hooks, Elvis and I closed Hooks by trying to get a chica for 100 pesos an hour or 200 for two hours. What an experience! I know I took a shower before I left the apartment, and I am pretty sure Elvis did to, but these girls would not move on their prices even as we were hitting several on the way out at 4:00. The few that did come down to the price insisted on the payment before the play. It felt like a union shop. One of our guys (I do not think his name is part of a handle here so I will not use his name) did pull a great one from Cattos for a great price, but she was a real exception. This was great for him since he had a real "horror" experience the night before with a chica from Hooks that changed the numbers to dollars back at his place, took a half hour to get rid of, threatened to call the police, and then slapped him on the way out.
Hooks and Cattos had several doable chicas for a picky guy like me, but the girls seemed to be holding a wall on their demands.

Elvis

06-19-03, 01:43

Day 4 (sunday)

No mongering during the afternoon, just lots of shopping.
After having a great time at Happening, some of us went to Hook at 2 am. Then we planned to check out Cattos and later Ness, which we found out closed at 2 am. This was my first time in Hook and had spotted a few cuties, but was too early to pick on up.

Since I've never been to Cattos either, Jak and I decided to check it out, so there we saw Joe and a stunning Asian-Argentine chica. What a beauty !!! Anyway, as soon as we get settled, a chica (Gabriela) approaches jak to let him know that she's in love- with him !! ;) She would not back away and wanted me to translate everything, insisting that she wanted him that night. Eventually we told her off and later met up with these Dominican cutties, who quoted me 150 pesos for an hour. They wouldn't budge for more hours, despite being 3:30 am.

Joe leaves with his girl, Jak and I decide to check out Hooks again and see if I can pull someone before closing. We settle down at a table and begin the interviews. No lie, but we drilled 7 chicas who all quoted me 150 pesos for an hour and more pesos if I wanted more hours. One finally agreed to 200 pesos for 2 hours, but wanted the money upfront. Oh well, bye bye to her. Btw, we saw the girl Jackson pulled out and she wasn't happy. :cool:

After Hooks, Jak decides call it a night and I head over to Madahos 10 mins. before closing. Luckily, there were a few cutties- I met Sabrina (who just started working there) Karina??(GFE and Sabrina's sister) and Yael (una mamona). I take Karina??(I don't remember her name) and she's really cool. Petite body, GFE, great personality but the experience wasn't that great. She spent 1 1/2 hours, one session. Covered BJ, lots of kissing, no anal.

Elvis

06-19-03, 02:29

Day 5 (Monday)

No mongering during the afternoon. Jaime and two chicas, Joe, Jak and two other guys and I decided to meet up at Cabana Las Lilas for dinner. There we meet up with another monger, Tic Toc who approaches us and asks if we know Jackson. :)

After dinner, we decided for Madahos. Since it was Flag Day it was well known to us that not many girls will be working, as well guys going to the clubs. It was true ! All of us didn't spot anyone interesting, so Joe first heads out to Blacks and would wait for us later. I then spot Sabrina, the girl I met on Saturday (I did her sister) and decided to talk. She was quoting me 150 pesos for 1 1/2. Tempting, but Jak and I wanted to check out Blacks, so I told her I might come back and headed for Blacks.

Inside Blacks we check out lots of cutties and most of them looking at us. Not a lot of clients. Which one to choose ??There were about 20-30 girls, and some of them were 9 and 10's. Since I hate being quoted in dollars, I made up my mind not to pick anyone and head over to Affaire (Ciceron) where I found the chicas willing to negotiate and with good attitudes.

At Ciceron, there were about maybe 15-20 girls, not a lot of clients. I meet up with Lorena, Laura and Patricia, her first week and no client has taken her out. Dios mio, que suerte!! Joe finds a girl and I choose Lorena, who didn't want to negotiate for 250-300 pesos for 7 hours on saturday. Now we agree for 200 pesos for 3 hours. Then I see Patricia all alone, and looking very cute !
I asked Lorena if Patricia would join us for 100 pesos for 1 hour, she agreed. Then I see Jak's girl rubbing her fabuloso trasero(ass) up against him and he's very happy. Before heading out to our respective places, we said our goodbyes and I also decide to ask Patricia if she wants to stay 3 hours for 200 pesos. She agrees.

Both girls get settled, we start talking and the proceed to get into action. Now, I'm with a pro and beginner, so I tell them what I want- one does a covered BJ, while I make out and finger the other. First Lorena does the BJ, while I'm kissing Patricia's sweet lips. While kissing her, I'm looking at her and enjoying this. Then Lorena gets on top and rides my cock for 1/2 hour, she get tired and wants to change missionary. While doing this, Patricia is giving massages and kissing my back and ears. Very nice !!

I cum and then start talking to both of them until I get aroused again. After an 1 hour of talking, I start getting horny and make a move. While Lorena kisses me, Patricia is giving a fantastic covered BJ, full garganta (throat). Wow !!!!!!!!! 1/2 later, I decide for Patricia to get on top even though I'm enjoying her cock sucking skills. I began to pay more attention to Patricia, so I asked Lorena to keep herself busy while I'm showing Patricia new positions. She was ok with it. For some reason I can't come and I'm getting tired, so I asked for another BJ by Patricia while Lorena is kissing me. While kissing me, Lorena is getting horny and wants to have sex again, so I told Patricia to stop. I start pounding it- fast, faster while touching her tight ass and feeling her tight pussy. I finally cum, with a grin in my face. Something that hasn't happen recently, not for a while. ;)

Lorena wants to head out to a Bingo, but I told her about the Casino in Puerto Madero. The 3 of us head over there at 8 am and have a great time. We leave for Cafe Exedra for some coffee, being out all night had some effects.

This was, by far, the best experience of my entire mongering life. I've done 2 girls before, but both of them were so different yet had the stuff I love and really cool. Hopefully, Lorena and I might hook up again, we shall see. I can't wait to experience this again.

I miss BA already !!! I can't wait to go back..

Roxanne

06-19-03, 03:00

Jaimito Cartero

06-19-03, 09:41

Hey, Elvis, really nice reports!

I'd like to thank everyone who I met from WSG in Buenos Aires. This was the first time that I really did much with people I met on here.

From Joe taking me to Hook the first night and Elvis turning me onto the apartment girls, it widened my horizons quite a bit. Roxana's tour of Buenos Aires and all it's crooks and criminals was fun. Jackson is a man who loves his job, and has a lot of fun, it seems.

I didn't spend a lot of time with Exon or Jak, but it was fun, none the less. Exon sure has some nice selection in chicas.

It seems that both Elvis and I got a three way for our last night. They're kind of hard to turn down, aren't they?

My first night's experience, which I thought was really good, was nothing compared to the last couple of nights.

I didn't go for too much quantity in my 7 days there. I had 3 girls in 26 hours at one point, but it's usually one girl a day for me.

SIMPLE STATISTICS

Shaved - 1
Trimmed - 1
Full Bush - 3

Paraguayans - 1
Argentians - 4

(All my Argentians were all from the campo, northern province.)

I stayed away from some Dominicans, because heck, I'd go to the DR if I really wanted one. I like local flavor! Joe did get me curious about Cuban girls, though. I'll add them to my 'to do' list.

Amounts paid:

$150 pesos for 2 hours, Marta from Hook. Ended up being for 13 hours, same price, but 20 peso tip added on.

$60 peso for 1 hour, Nielda from Clarin. +10 pesos for taxi.

$40 peso for 1 hour, Yesica (Apartment girl, Elvis gave contact info). 10 peso tip.

US$100, TLN, with my beautiful Marisol from Hook. 3am-12 noon. My fingers are quivering just typing her name.

US$100 for Marisol, with $100 pesos for her girlfriend Norma. 8pm until 5am or so. (Included going to movies and dinner). Nice three way. These girls love to take pictures and have pictures of them taken.

Marisol is a total GFE. Doesn't watch the clock at all, and has a mouth and tongue that just WILL not stop. Even when we were seeing a movie together, she was working on me in small ways, and I couldn't quite concentrate on the movie.

She is not the stunning beauty that some of Exons were, but I have NEVER, ever had a night like I spent with her before. The $100 US a night (Yeah, I know, no US prices, but Jackson suggested it to her when he came over to say goodbye in Hook, and it seemed reasonable) was nothing compared to what I got out of it. When you're with someone who just seems to have so much fun, it makes it that much more enjoyable.

Exon123

06-19-03, 12:50

Exon would like to thank Outofthegame, Joe, Elvis, Fatbastard, Roxana and especially Jackson for a fabulous time spent in the greatest city in the world Buenos Aires

salsaboy

06-19-03, 19:12

Hello there,

I am new to the board and planning a trip to Bd Aires very soon.

Just wanted to introduce myself. I've been reading and getting informed about all these lucky members while visiting Bs Aires.

Thanks to them for sharing their experiences with us.

Just a quick question for Jamito Cartero. Is there any place or website of some of the girls you met or maybe somebody will be posting some pictures. I am very interested in meeting girls who love to have pictures of them taken.

Hope to hear from you guys

Sincerely

Salsaboy

Lexton

06-19-03, 20:02

I have now visited most of the popular clubs in the last 2 weeks, and I have to agree that the best looking girls are in Black. I like small, slim, shy/quiet women(good luck in this business) but reasonable facsimiles can be found. At least there seem to be more of the small, slim variety in Black. If we want to talk attitude, I'm not so sure. I did spot one really good candidate, but she was suddenly grabbed for a table group and left with one of them. A prospect for another day. I did have a hard time getting the price of a drink for a chica. The receptionist guy told me from $25ar to $85ar, depending on the type, with no real hint of what costs more. So there may be some options if you are buying a girl a drink for company.

Of the other clubs, I had my best luck at Shampoo. $25ar entrance, $50ar(or 2 drink) exit fee with no return requirement, the girl said. I went with a small brunette with a real cute pixie face who was very friendly and cooperative. I thought the Costa Rica girls were good for GFE, but this girl was probably better. Really good kissing and cuddling, with a very sweet attitude. I overpaid a little at $200ar for 2-3 hours, for a variety of reasons, and would do it again. On Wednesday Shampoo had several interesting looking women, after a Saturday that was terrible(holiday weekend).

I dislike the loud music in many of the clubs, with the worst being Ness. The place is small and they crank it up to give the illusion of fun, I guess. I stayed for about 10 minutes, because it was impossible to talk to a woman.

I am staying at the Dazzler, $40us+tx, and they have been friendly and cooperative. My king bed is a little soft, but usable. I closed the first week bill, with nothing unusual. I am thinking of moving to the Bisonte Palace. There have been comments that the beds are bad there, but no reason given. Anyone have details?

So far, BA is the best hobby city I have seen, especially for variety of ways to find working women.

Andres, you mentioned a good local monger board. Reading the Spanish would help me study, if nothing else. Could you post?

OttoGraham

06-20-03, 00:25

UNCLE OTTO'S ON HIS WAY BACK TO BUENOS AIRES

Plans presently call for me to be spending the 26th, 27th, 28th, and 29th in Buenos Aires. Though this is subject to change because of work schedules, if there are any mongers in town who'd like to meet up and sip a cold one whilst watching pretty young things strut their stuff, post your emails here for me to contact you.

Andres, if you're in town this especially applies to you!

-Uncle Otto

Super Unknown

06-20-03, 02:59

Hi Otto, I'll be in town for my first trip. It would be great to hang out. Beers are on me. Email me at superunknown@uswest.net

Thanks

Damn, what am I, a potted plant?

Jackson

Andres

06-20-03, 03:23

Uncle Otto:

Thanks, but I'm coming back in August.
See you in your next trip.

Andres

Dashing Don

06-20-03, 14:19

Otto, does this invitation extend to Dickhead? He's in Mexico and I believe he's working his way down to BA. I'd love to see the reports of you two mongering together. Of course, you'd have to brush up on those prison bus schedules. It might also be a good idea to start jogging as the need may arise to extricate yourself from some of those tricky back-alley situations that Dickhead is so fond of.:)
As you yourself comment on many of the reports here, I will be waiting yours with baited breath--and I dont mean your evaluations of the local cabernets either!
Say hello to Jackson for me.

Don

Super Unknown

06-21-03, 02:00

Jackson, would be great if you could meet up with a few of us guys. ...email me at the address below. Should be fun.

Bodhi

06-21-03, 02:32

Greetings to all on this Supreme Forum,

Been in Cordoba area over a month now, and only action is with amigovias. Cordoba topics in forum are old, very critical, and discouraging. Has anybody had any experience lately there?
I live near Carlos Paz, where I hear it is 30 peso for 15 minutes in hotel, but haven't confirmed that. However the place is full of non pro girls who are quite friendly.

My spanish is rapidly improving, but one wonders if somebody can put together some kind of petite dictionary for sexual lingo to communiate with the chicas, since this dialect isnt in most dictionaries... :)

Final tip for all: try to take 5-HTP, a tryptophane supplement, which is hard to find in Cordoba, but probably easy in BA. It delays ejaculation and enhances pleasure, but don't do it before a session on empty stomach especially, since it may make you sleepy. It delays the reaction of dopamine in concert with the nerves thus delaying climax. I am also curious on methods of lasting longer with the pros that anybody can offer, since I have no problems with non pros, but lacking experience with pros don't relax sufficiently for the above.

Many thanks,

Bodhi

Elvis

06-21-03, 03:16

Btw, I'm back in the States and dealing with it is very hard. I want to pack and get the fuck out.. But I have to work.. :( And I guess this won't be my last trip to BA this year, which I commented to most of the guys.

I do want to mention that during this trip I met so many cool people from this board. You guys were cool !!! Hopefully we can do this again, perhaps in BA or another city.

Jackson, I would like to thank you again for the hospitality and it was great meeting up with you.

Btw, I'm impressed with your WSGCharities website and the work involved. When I come back to BA, and if you ever need a volunteer, let me know if I can help in any way. I just made a contribution to this great cause, hoping this will help out many families. Keep up the great work !!!

Roxanne

06-21-03, 03:18

Hi, People:

Mayra and I decided to cancel El Tigre trip, because we have few people in Buenos Aires actually. But we are gonna have lunch with all of you who want to share the table with King Jackson the First, this Sunday,22nd at 14:00 hs. in LA PAROLACCIA, a restaurant in Avenida Alicia Moreau de Justo 1052 in Puerto Madero.

See you there, kisses, Roxana.

Jaimito Cartero

06-21-03, 05:43

Well, if you want to move to the El Bisonte, you won't be going far. Nowhere, in fact.

I was talking with the manager one day, and I asked him about the name change. He said they had changed it last October.

When you're at the reception desk, look at the creatures on the plaques set into the facade.

I had a soft king on the second floor, but made them change, and got a decent one on the 5th floor. This should probably be moved to the Hotels section...

Jaimito Cartero

06-21-03, 05:57

Elvis, I know what you mean about wanting to go back. Even after the hellish airplane rides I was on (I hate the airport in Sao Paolo!), I'd go back in a minute if I logically could.

My flight from Houston to Phoenix was on one of those little jets. 50 passengers. And the pilot was pregnant! That's a first for me.

It's weird how conversations come around to reality. We had talked a little about girls getting spanked earlier in the week. When I went to the Recoletta cinema with Marisol and Norma, we started to talk about the Secretary movie that was playing there.

I had seen it a couple of days earlier, and had thought it interesting. As we were leaving, both Marisol and Norma said they liked to be spanked. Well, I practiced a little as we were walking down the hall, and got some nice excited yips out of them.

I was dying through dinner... In the movie theater Marisol had been running her fingers along my chest, and was being very cruel considering that we were in a public place. I was hungry, but not for food.

None the less, I hate to promise to be somewhere and not go, so we went to dinner, none the less. Even though we were 45 minutes late. Perfect timing in BA!

Well, to cut to the chase, both Marisol and Norma went home with me. I asked them about the spanking again, and they both seemed to like it.

I've never indulged in more than mild play spanking before. Norma played along for a while, but then one the pinkness started, she seemed to want to stop.

Marisol, however, wanted it bright pink! I guess you never know what you or they are going to like.

And finally, I thought the people of BA were very gracious. I never had any rude comments about being as big as a house, and never had a girl that wasn't ready and willing to jump my bones. Even my worst experience was in the top 5 of Costa Rica and Thailand.

If I ever won the lottery, I'd be on the next plane to BA. I'm sure I'd kill myself in a few months, but what a way to go.

Guillermo

06-21-03, 22:39

Hola Piratas!

Yo estoy aqui en Buenos Aires. So now I get to feed your vicarious appetites for a change.

Wow, it's a long way from the west coast, 18 hours. There was a whole line of thunderstorms that parked themselves directly over the airport in Denver, so nothing moved for about 2 hours. I arrived at the gate in Miami with about 15 minutes to spare.

Landed about 15 minutes early in BA. Breezed through customs without a problem and was met by the driver that Mayra had arranged for. I stopped to change some dollars at the cambio but my driver suggested that I go to the bank instead. He said I would get a better rate. The rate today is 2.72 to the dollar. My, how times have changed.

Into the car and off to the city. My first impression of Argentina is, green. Lush vegetation everywhere. The outskirts of the city look pretty dismal as we drive in. It reminds me a little of eastern Europe. Could be the outskirts of St. Petersburg. Little by little we are sucked into the vortex of the highway system and before you know it, we are stuck in traffic on 9 de Julio. This is a whole different city. Big wide avenues, people rushing everywhere, motorcycles zipping by. . . Lots of tall buildings. I ask my driver if they have earthquakes here. It takes him a moment to understand the concept. No, he says, thank God.

On to Recoleta and the apartment where I will be staying. There is a very nice lady waiting to meet me, take care of the paperwork and give me the keys. This place is huge, it's got 3 bedrooms, plus the servant's quarters.

I'm in the process of unpacking when the door buzzes and it is Roxana, she is waiting downstairs in a taxi with Mayra. Down I go, into the cab and off to lunch. We arrive at a restaurant called Piegari. We are met by a fellow monger at the restaurant, didn't catch his screen name. Roxana and Mayra are a kick when they're together. I was a little tired when I arrived. I had only been able to sleep for a couple hours during the flight from Miami. Sitting in the restaurant, listening to them chattering away, prompting each other back and forth, is almost like a contact high. I decide to try this famous Bife de Loma and it is excellent. Between the entertainment Roxana and Mayri are providing and the much need sustenance, I feel energized and ready to go again. Lunch for 4 is AR$200, including tip. From now on, all prices are in pesos, unless otherwise specified.

After lunch, we meet Roxana's driver and it's off for the city tour. I was thinking it might be a little more monger specific, as in, "This is Hooks...", "This is Madohos...". Instead, she gives us the cultural tour; San Telmo, Puerto Madero and we end up at the Plaza de Mayo, admiring the Casa Rosada, which is nice, but it tends to look a lot like it does in the pictures.

It's been overcast all day, but now it starts to drizzle just little bit at the end of our tour. We end up at a place on Callao called "Pelvis". The scene here is pretty young chicas serving beer to local guys dressed in nothing but very revealing lingerie (the chicas, that is). We settle up our accounts with Roxana. They decide to head over to Orleans and I grab a taxi and head back to my apartment.

Over to Disco supermercado for some provisions and then back to the apartment. By this time it's about 7:00 pm. I finish unpacking and promplty at 8:00 a very nice young gentleman rings my doorbell to announce that he is here with my cell phone. There is some paperwork to attend to and my first call is to Colmenga Spa, I'm not sure how late they are open. They tell me they close at 9:30, no point in going there tonight.

I decide to clean up from the trip and head into Recoleta. Walking along Quintana, towards the cemetery, it occurs to me that I could be somewhere in the upper east side of Manhattan. Fascinating city, it presents so many different personalities. I reach the cemetery and take a left. It's a beautiful night, must be in the 60's. The street is packed with people and the restaurants are jammed. This is a Friday night. Walking along, I encounter a couple young women who give me long, lingering, come hither looks. THAT's something that hasn't happened in a long time. One chica, standing on a street corner gives me a big smile and waves. Now you know the world has really turned upside down!

At some point I am Shanghai'd by a pretty young thing who insists that I eat in her restaurant. I can't resist. The place is called Tonsorio (?), or something like that. There is a guy there singing old Beatles songs with the volume much too loud. He does a pretty good job, but there's only so much you can do with an old Beatles song. More Bife de Loma. It occurs to me that this would be a good place to start the Atkins diet. Sure wouldn't want to be a hungry vegetarian in this city! Dinner is AR $32.

After dinner, I continue walking along Junin. When I arrive at the corner of Vicente Lopez I encounter a mob of well dressed young men handing out cards touting various strip joints. Why is it that everyone seems to assume the a single man walking unaccompanied through Recoleta on a Friday night has only one thing on his mind? And it's not eating.

I hang a right and walk down the street along the cemetery wall. I think I'll try Madahos. That seems to be the happenin' place right now. More touts at the corder of Azcuenga. Don't these guys ever give up? My hip pocket bulging with tout cards, I enter Madahos. The cost of admission is $25 and that gets me a coupon good for a free drink. The doors part and I am inside.

Wow! I guess this must be the place. Chicas, chicas, everywhere. Never having been here, I have no frame of reference, but I'd say the place is packed. Looks as if the ratio is a little more chicas than guys. I pull up a chair and order a drink and survey the scene. It isn't long before a cute little Peruviana plants herself next to me. She says her name is Jorgelina. She sort of resembles the Jorgelina on Escortsbaires, but she assures me she is not. I think the process of assigning numerical grades to women is inherently flawed, but I'd give her a 7. Pretty face and a voluptuous figure. She gets extra points for a nice set of white, straight teeth. After staring at internet pictures for the last six months I'm beginning to feel like a horse-trader (check the teeth, check the teeth).

Whatever she is, at this point, she's looking mighty good right about now.

I decide to buy her a drink, which is $35. We make some polite chit-chat for a while and she asks me if I want to "salir". I ask her "cuantos"? She says $250, I say $200. She says OK. Even at this point I still have the presence of mind to make sure that we're both talking pesos. She takes her leave to change into her street clothes and we are off.

The doorman ushers me out with a big smile and into a cab that is waiting for us at the corner. The cab takes us back to my apartment but when I try to pay him for the ride he refuses to accept payment. Jorgelina explains that the cab ride is on the house, but I can tip the driver if I want. We only went a few blocks, but I pull $10 out of my pocket. What the hell, it's only play money.

Back in the apartment, Jorgelina asks if we can turn on the tv for some musica. Instead, I put my Gypsy Kings CD in the player and she starts dancing around the apartment. Vamanos a la cama. There is some DFK and some DATY and then the CBJ. Of course it's better without the preservativo, but this girl has definately 8done this before. She gets on top and rides me for a while, but 8I'm afraid, after that long trip, poor Guillermito is a little too pooped to pop. But Jorgelina is not daunted by this task, she perseveres never the less (bless her heart). Back to the CBJ and finally we have lift-off. I think Jorgelina is almost as excited about my little triumph as I am. "Mucho leche!", she exclaims.

I give her $10 for the cab ride back to the club and then decide to have a smoke out on the balcony. It's been an amazing trip so far, and it's only the first day! It's about 3:30 in the morning and it's been almost 48 hours since I started this odyssey, with only a couple hours sleep on the plane, but I am not at all sleepy. I feel kind of like the Energizer bunny. I figure I better force myself to get some rest before I self destruct. As Scarlett said, "Tomorrow, is another day...".

The only problem now is, which bedroom do I sleep in? Let's see, eenie, meenie, meine. . .

Your correspondent in Buenos Aires,

Guillermo

BsAs Lurker

06-22-03, 00:40

Hello everyone. After just reading this board for a while I want to share few points with you.

1. Clubs:
I went to about 15+ of them.
Some of them made for foreigners (Madohos, Solid Gold, Shampoo etc. Solid Gold would be my top choice) they good for a show. But otherwise it is too professional and intimidating.

Another one's is just good neighborhood bars with a girls and striptease. (Nuevo Estilo, Doly's etc) I think to go there some times for a gringo is to look for troubles. It is much better to go there with local company.

2. Apartments:
I am not much into shows but more into hard core sex. For the guys like me I have a sudjestion. If you go to any place downtown (Florida, Supiche etc) they have all this guys standing and offering you clubs entrance cards. Ask them for "apartamento privado". They are going to take you to private apartments right down the block. There you usually they have 3-4 girls working in the rooms. Regular price is 100 pesos/hour. Quality of the girls is different from place to place. But not being worse than in clubs.

Few rules: Never go for the first girl they offer. They are going to show you 3 girls. You say no and then miraculously #4 comes out. And she is your dream girl (It is happened to me). You can always say I changed my mind I want girl # 2.

You don’t have to go for it if you don’t like girls. Just politely say thank you very much and leave. Just be nice. And every body going to be nice to you.

The same guy will take you to another place. Once I found a good one only after going to 6 places. But she was a keeper.

If you going from place to place to place it is good to feed guys with occasional 10-20 pesos bill. It helps but not necessary. If you do some times guy helps you to negotiate price to 80 p/hour.

There are at least 30+ places like this downtown that I went to. If you new to this some times it is kind of scary. But I never ever had a problem. Don’t forget they want your business.

I mostly used one guy. His name is Ruben. His phone is 1556-347-952. Really nice guy. Will go extra mile for a client.

3. Street action.
I went to so called "safari" with Ruben. Just took a taxi (always look for a good car so you can be comfy. Roads in this places are terrible) and went driving around Constitusion, Garay, Once and Flores. Taxi bill was under 30 pesos.

"Safari” is a mix bag. There is allot of transvestites working. Some times you can’t see the difference. I would say all of the hot looking best dressed girls ARE men. (I had a lot of help from Ruben on this). There is a lot of skunk. BUT some times you can find real jem. Probably my best ever experience in BsAs was with two young semi-pros from Garay. Price range 40-60 pesos plus hotel.

4.Disco
Ruben took me to discotheque in Constitusion in Saturday and Sunday night. Action starts in about 2 am. You better be with local company. There are no pros there. Just a young local girls who like Latin music and looking for some action. If you ok or good looking you can buy her a drink, dance a little and take her to hotel.

Best regards.

OttoGraham

06-22-03, 01:38

Go Guillermo Go!

What a great post!

How long will you be down there? I might be able to show you some of the hidden gems of the town once I make it down.......

Be sure to get your sleep, my boy, otherwise you will run completely out of gas in 3-4 days. Of course, by sleeping I mean sleep during the day - Norteamericano vampires are quite common is BsAs!

Be sure to treat yourself to good food down there, remember to try the grilled mojellas! :D

-Uncle Otto

Exon123

06-22-03, 17:06

Guillermo --- I highly recomend the Colmenga Spa you mentioned in your post --- My experience was after a long airplane ride I was stiff and sore and to excited to sleep --- I looked up the address on the internet wrote in down to give to the cab driver and was on my way --- I was lucky as just as I checked a Argentine man that spoke excellent English gave me the cooks tour and explained the whole deal --- Well of course I wanted the Massage and paid for it up front in the VIP section the Spa --- They have first class and coach, I always like the VIP treatment -- Anyway after sitting in the steam room and then the sonna for some time I took a shower and headed for the VIP lounge to wait for my Massage apointment --- Ten fifteen minutes later Im told to go upstairs and Sol is waiting for me at the top of the stairs with a hug and kiss and ushers me into her little area --- Now thease little massuse's are cute as hell and she starts to work on me --- Its great heaven, shes working all over me and starts working up my legs to my croch area and her hand keeps accidently stroking me and of course Im sporting wood in no time --- Then Sol wispers in my ear after noticeing Im hard as a rock " erotic massage" --- Well of course I want "Erotic Massage" but the long and the short of it was I only had 40ar and she would not preform for that number --- Bottom line to the Colmenga Spa is I highly recommend it --- Especially your first day in town after the long ride south ---- Exon

Guillermo

06-23-03, 12:51

Tio Otto,

I will down here, a las proxima fin de semana (funny how a language will come to you when you are completely immersed in it.)

I would consider it an honor and a priviledge to hook up with you while I am here.

I believe Jackson has a little surprise in store for you (those of us who are down here already know), but I will not upstage him.

Guillermo

Guillermo

06-23-03, 12:55

exon,

Yes, I thought Colmenga would be just what the doctor ordered after a long flight, but it was not to be. Now that I understand what the scene is here, my problem is, do I really want to waste a perfectly good shot on a hand job?

Decisions, decisions, decisions!

Guillermo

Guillermo

06-23-03, 12:58

Originally posted by OttoGraham
Be sure to treat yourself to good food down there, remember to try the grilled mojellas!

-Uncle Otto

Claro que si, señor (hey, whaddaya know, they have an enye key!)

Where I come from they call them Rocky Mountain oysters

BeachBoy

06-23-03, 13:06

The nice thing about the Colmegna Spa VIP section is that you can sit in the sauna steaming your balls until they are blue and swollen, allthewhile (sorry for the rarely used word, it's that damn British schooling) by way of one-way mirror, perusing the chicas lounging on Roman sofas taking tea and gossiping.

They are all 18-24 and in the 7-9 range, and skilled charmers should have no problem luring one of them out for a night of sport afterwards. They are not regular club girls, and they have a softer, cleaner beauty queen look to them, but it can be done with correct and persistent effort.

This place is a must. It is an historic relic, a place from times when gentlemen ruled the realm and were tended to by young nubile females, soothing aching backs and relieving tender loins.

BB

Guillermo

06-23-03, 14:37

Day 2

Hola Piratas!

I am awakened this morning around 11:00 am by the sound of street noise. Take a mental note to sleep in the back bedroom tonight.

Downstairs and out to the street in search of breakfast. Beautiful bright sunshine(y) day. There is a bit of a chill in the air this morning, it´s probably in the 50´s. As I walk down Quintana towards the cemetery, I notice that everyone is all bundled up. Big heavy coats, scarves, hats, gloves... the damas are all sporting their minks. They all look like a bunch of New Yorkers in January. Jeez, you´d think it was cold, or something.

Desayuno at Cafe de la Paix. It´s not quite as grand as it´s Paris namesake, but it will do nicely.

I stop at the Locoturio here on Ayacucho to file my story and then it´s back to the apt. to get ready for Evy from Escortsbaires. The day passes very quickly when you don´t get started until noon!

Evy arrives at 4:00 pm, en punto. She is very much as represented in her internet fotos, but a little older. Time has not dimmed her beauty though. I offer her a drink and she starts telling me about all the men who are after her. Apparently, she has men writing her from all over the world. There are 30 men who want to bring her to the U.S., but she can´t get a visa. It seems that she has a full schedule of travel lined up to all sorts of exotic destinations, at $1,200 USD per week, plus expenses. She knows that women in the U.S. can make $300 per hour, and she doesn´t understand why she can´t make that kind of money in BA. "Aren´t I as beautiful as they are?" Her English is pretty good

I have this strange feeling that I´m in a job interview and I'm the one who's being hired. I confirm with her that I'm paying her $200. "Oh, si, si" she says. "I am willing to accept this, I am here in Buenos Aires, and there is nothing I can do." Gee, thanks a lot.

We need to get something moving here. I put on my Gypsy Kings CD and she is very happy. She starts dancing around the apt. Funny how that works.

The sex is uninspired. I get the feeling she´s giving me $200 pesos worth. We part politely and I think there is no point to see her again. Unless, of course, I win the lottery.

Back to Junin tonight for dinner. It´s colder tonight, the streets are not as crowded, the restaurants not as full. I end up at Village Recoleta, Cafe Monaco. It´s 11:00 pm and the place is packed. I take a table upstairs to watch the cafe society. Simple fare, but served promptly. God forbid I should waste time eating. More Bife de Lomo, $32.50 for dinner.

I decide I´ve had enough of these jet-setting international call girls. I need a simple chica, with simple expectations. Into a cab and over to Hook. It´s around 12:30, Saturday night. Lots of chicas and maybe 2 or 3 guys. The selection is not too bad, $12 for my drink and I take a table to survey the scene. I am approached by a couple of chicas, but I end up with Kelly, or maybe Keli, or maybe Cali, the music is very loud in here. She´s sweet. Cute little Paraguayita. Viente uno años, slender figure, long blond hair, plentiful bazooms busting out of her bustier. Reminds me of a girlfriend I had in high school (yeah, yeah, I know).

I buy her a drink, which is $18, and we chit chat for while. She wants to salir. I ask her cuantos. She says $150, right off the bat. Never look a gift horse in the mouth, I always say. But I want a little more time than just hora/hora y media. I ask her if I can take her out TLN. She launches into a long explanation, which my Español is not good enough to understand completely, but she seems to be trying to discourage me. She says it would be very expensive to do that at this time of night. She says that if I buy her one more drink, I can have an extra hour. OK, one more drink and we are off.

Back at the apartment, I open a bottle of champagne and put on the Gypsy Kings CD. She starts dancing around the apartment, articles of clothing flying hither and thither as she does. This chica is not timid in the least. Vamanos a la cama and she launches into a BBBJ without even asking. I like this girl! At some point I get that special feeling and I prompt her for the preservativo. She hops on and away we ride.

After, we are laying in bed and she is telling me about her life. Speaks no English, everything is in Spanish. She is a regular Chatty Kathy. I am only catching maybe 20% of what she´s saying, but she is so full of life and so animated that this alone is almost worth the price of admission.

Oh, to be young again. This girl is absolutely content with her situation, she works nights in the club with her amigas, makes enough money to meet her needs and the whole Mercosur is her playground. She has problems, but nothing that she is not absolutely confident she can´t handle.

Shaw was right, youth is much to valuable to be wasted on the young.

After a while, she decides to see if Guillermito is ready to go again. He´s a little tired, but she´s an industrious little thing and manages to squeeze one last drop of leche out of him.

Then, in an instant, she announces it´s time for her to go. I pay her and walk her down to the street. "Chao", she smiles as she walks off.

It´s about 5:00 am, and I´m wide awake. Interesting contrast between her and Evy. The amount of money you pay has absolutely nothing to do with the experience you receive.

Your correspondent in Buenos Aires,

Guillermo

OttoGraham

06-23-03, 16:22

Originally posted by Guillermo
Claro que si, señor (hey, whaddaya know, they have an enye key!)

Where I come from they call them Rocky Mountain oysters

Ah, William my son, Rocky Mountain Oysters are criadillas. Mollejas, on the other hand, are sweetbreads. Check out the discussion in the restaurant section on these precious little morsels. IIRC the Piegari parrilla has good roasted mollejas - Mayri ordered some as part of a mixed grill the last time I was there.

See you boys soon,

-Uncle Otto

lotsafun

06-24-03, 01:54

Came across these sites

http://www.cape1.net/Privados/privados1.htm Seems like Clarin Rubro 59 type of site.

http://www.vendetodoclasif.com.ar/r-bue-rubro59.htm

Mar Del Plata Site
http://www.rubro69sexo.com/

thought someone might want to check 'em out

El Ricardo

06-24-03, 10:43

Guillermo,
Thanks for the information on Evy. She has been on my short list for some time, and I never got around to seeing her the last two times I was in BA. I plan on going to BA two more times this year, and, thanks to your report, I won't see her then either. There are just too many ladies as lovely as she is offering a far better experience. I don't know where in the world one can find a better experience than in BA!
ER[QUOTE]Originally posted by Guillermo
[i]Day 2

Evy arrives at 4:00 pm, en punto. She is very much as represented in her internet fotos, but a little older. Time has not dimmed her beauty though. I offer her a drink and she starts telling me about all the men who are after her. Apparently, she has men writing her from all over the world. There are 30 men who want to bring her to the U.S., but she can´t get a visa. It seems that she has a full schedule of travel lined up to all sorts of exotic destinations, at $1,200 USD per week, plus expenses. She knows that women in the U.S. can make $300 per hour, and she doesn´t understand why she can´t make that kind of money in BA. "Aren´t I as beautiful as they are?" Her English is pretty good

I have this strange feeling that I´m in a job interview and I'm the one who's being hired. I confirm with her that I'm paying her $200. "Oh, si, si" she says. "I am willing to accept this, I am here in Buenos Aires, and there is nothing I can do." Gee, thanks a lot.

We need to get something moving here. I put on my Gypsy Kings CD and she is very happy. She starts dancing around the apt. Funny how that works.

The sex is uninspired. I get the feeling she´s giving me $200 pesos worth. We part politely and I think there is no point to see her again. Unless, of course, I win the lottery.

Bandy

06-24-03, 12:58

Just came back today from BsAs spending 10 days. All I can say is:

"The news of the demise of BsAs chica talents has been greatly exaggerated."

In terms of chica encounters, both quality and quantity-wise, I had much better time this trip than the trip I took last November. So all you mongers who are lurking on the side to make up your mind, my suggestion will be-"pack your bags and take the next flight to BsAs". You will be always one day too late for unforgettable chica actions.

Most of my mongering nights in clubs were spent with Jackson and Capt. Dave. Two great individuals I could not be more happy to spend time with. Thank you guys for a swell time.

I am extremely tired from the trip. So I can not do a detailed report of all my actions right now. But since I promised Jackson that I will review the two amateurs who are trying to break into the business with gringos as soon as I reach New York, I felt duty-bound to furnish the following account right away before I forget the important details. Capt. Dave and I are the two gringos, who sacrificed ourselves in this great cause without any hesitation. A caveat– the following impressions are my exclusive take about them; other people may totally disagree with me.

These two amateurs can only be contacted through Sylvina, Jackson's novia. You have pay Sylvina USD10.00 for each appointment. For Sylvina's number contact Jackson. They soon will appear in Jackson's private site, with customary pictures and pricing schedules.

Amateur # 1. Laura

She is about 5'4", 26 year old with beautiful thin figure. She is not an eye candy but quite attractive. Breasts are augmented (not my personal favorite). But what a wonderful job! It is hard to detect any imperfection. She told me she is doing this escort business for about six weeks. Started out with some champagne and my customary chit chat. She does not speak any english. She went to the toilet and soon the session started on the sofa. What followed caught me really off guard. She is an amateur, but hardly that showed. I am supposed to be her second(?)gringo. Dave had her the day before. So I somewhat knew what she is capable of doing. Never in my life, I saw a girl enjoyed "Beso negro" that much. (Dave was surprised, she did not offer him this; so YMMV). She must have spent half gallon of her saliva shoving into my orifice during this endeavor. This was followed by a through prostate exam for 15 min while performing BBBJ. All these went on without any prompting from my side. Really genius at her craft. She won't do anal. Its ok. I was somewhat disappointed that she won't let me take any picture, even con ropa (She allowed this to Dave). While discussing this at Jackson's place that night, Jackson got furious. This is a minimum requirement for the private site. Anyway, the action moved on to bed. The highlight of the session was her encounter with "pocket rocket". She never experienced this wonder toy. She went wild and ended up in spontaneous eruption. She did not want to give it back ( same with all chicas). I still had a few days to go. So I told her next time I will bring one for her. So far I have order of 7 pocket rockets. I hope I made out of customs all right next time. I tried all positions (loves cowgirl and doggie) and finished in missionary style. Session lasted about an hour. 200 P + 20 P tips (Pricing might change in your favor in future).

Recommendation: For pure carnal pleasure, she is an absolute gem. But I am generally a romantic type, so I will repeat her for short sessions, not TLN.

Amateur #2 Karina

She is a 21 yr. old Medical student. Has a 3 yr. old son. I am supposed to be her first (?) gringo. I opened the door. A doll is standing in front of me. She is about 5'3", has a round face , a "bebota" appearance. Somehow, looks like a polish decent, but was told that the family is originally from Spain. Being in the medical field, we had a lot of common things to talk about. She aspires to be a pediatrician in future. She does not speak any english.
She did not use the bidet as the other pros. She told me she just took a shower before leaving her apartment. She allowed one picture, con ropa, my preference anyway.
I offered champagne and the session followed soon. I immediately realized, as opposed to Laura, she is a total amateur. Although she told me that she is going out off and on about 6 months. BBBJ, beso negro all were on the table, except cola, which I was not interested any way. She did everything, but I felt there was some degree of uncomfortableness. This kid definitely is an amateur.
There were two big problems for me: first, she has a very strong smoker's breath. Since DFK is my absolute requirement, this was a problem for me right at the onset of our session. Other thing is, she has a definite belly and stretch mark from childbirth, which might as well be a problem for other mongers also. In addition, she has a disproportionally large rear end. She tried to provide me as much as GFE possible. All positions offered. But everything was performed with a touch of inhibition. The best part for me was the after session. She became very cozy and cuddled on my chest for 15 min while performing DFK. I think, she might have opened up more in the next session. Session lasted about an hour. 200 P + 20 P tips ( Pricing might change in your favor in future).
Recommendation: As I told Jackson, I am totally confused with this experience. I have mixed feelings for repeat. A very sweet girl who might rock somebody's boat but at the end of the day she is not for me. Sorry honey, if I hurt your business.

Jackson, hope these reviews help.

Bandy

Guillermo

06-24-03, 13:52

Day 3

Hola Piratas!

I am awakened around noon by the sound of the kids on the floor above me. Sounds like they are re-arranging the furniture, on the hardwood floors, and having a wail of a time doing it. Oh, well, I guess that´s part of apartment life.

Today is cloudy and over cast, with a slight drizzle. You might say a heavy fog. So far the Argentine winter is your basic summer in San Francisco.

We are scheduled to have lunch at 2:00pm. Roxana, Mayra, Jackson, myself and some of the guys who are also here in town. The restaurant is called Parolaccia, in Puerto Madero. Looks as if I will be eating breakfast at an Italian restaurant. That´s a first.

Jackson is a kick. His lust for life (and lots of other things) is infectious. Over lunch the conversation turns to pharmaceutical enhancements to the hobby. We resolve to embark on a field trip to a Farmacia, but finding one that is abierto en Domingos is easier said than done. At some point we realize that this is futile and we part company and head our separate ways.

I find myself in the Plaza San Martin area and I think the Periplo bar is supposed to be around here, somewhere. I decide to check it out. It´s a little tricky to find, but I eventually locate it (thanks to Moondog´s maps). It´s about 6:00 or 7:00 pm on a Sunday night and it´s closed. I decide to take a walk down Florida and do some window shopping. Hop in a cab and back to Recoleta.

Back to restaurant row for dinner at Tenorio. This time, no Beatles songs. There is a pretty young chanteuse singing.

I decide to head over to Salome tonight. I hop in a cab and tell the driver Cordoba y Billinghurst. The driver knows immediately that I am headed for Salome. He tries to discourage me from going there. It´s Sunday, it will be very slow, not so many chicas. He produces an advirtisement for some club downtown and tries to persuade me that I will be much better off there. Fortunately for me, I am resolved to visit Salome.

Salome is a different kind of place. It´s right on the corner, and much of the storefront is glass, so everything happening inside is visible from the street. It´s also very brightly lit, which is a nice change from the other clubs where it's strictly B.Y.O.F. (bring your own flashlight).

It´s also very small, there´s barely enough room in here to swing a cat. They tell me there´s another floor abajo, but it´s closed tonight. It is slow. There´s maybe 8 or 9 chicas, none of them too promising. The bartender, on the other hand, is a knockout, but I imagine she´s not on the menu. I do meet the gaze of a pair of dark eyes as I enter, so maybe I can find something here tonight.

I order myself a Quilmes, I think it´s $5, and sit at the bar for awhile. There is a tall blonde sitting next to me who strikes up a conversation. Her English is very good. She lived in the U.S. for 5 years and still has family there. I decide to relocate myself and check out these dark eyes. I sit down at one of the tables and assume that she will come over to sit with me. We exchange glances and smiles for a while until I decide that I could probably grow old and die waiting for this chica to make a move and get up and go to sit with her. She seems very happy to have the company. Apparently, in this club, the chicas are not supposed to appraach the men. I buy her a drink, which is $10, and we cuddle on the couch for a while. The waitress won´t take any money for her drink. I get the impression that we´re running a tab? Es possible?

These dark eyes are very sweet. Pretty face and a petite but very shapely figure (not to mention a nice set of teeth). After a while, she asks me what we will "hacer". I ask her cuantos, she replies $200. That´s a little more than I was expecting. Of course it´s the usual hora/hora y media. I´m getting tired of this. I'm a sensitive guy. I need a meaningful relationship. ;-)

I ask her what it would be for TLN. She replies, $700. I pause for a moment to reposition my lower jaw. When I am able to talk again, I tell her that this is mucho dinero. She says, $600. I figure 2 can play this game. I don´t want to lowball her too much, it IS Sunday night and she IS definately the only prospect in the club, IMHO.

I tell her I am willing to pay $400. She replies this is too little dinero. So we are at an impasse for a while. Finally she says $500. I say $400, again. She scrunches up her face and makes a look that is muy triste. Batting her eyelashes at me she says, "Yo soy po-bre-cit-a". She doesn´t speak a word of English. I tell her that she may be pobrecita, but if I have to pay her price for TLN, I will be po-bre-cit-o. She laughs. "Esta bien", she replies, "Vamos", and offers her hand to shake on the deal. Saint was right, a little humor goes a long way with the chicas.

Before I shake on it I confirm that we are talking about $400 pesos, "Si, si, si", and TLN, "Si, si, si", and I tell her "Te pago al terminar, en la mañana¨" (Thanks for the translations Andres). "Si, si ,si. . . en la mañana. Vamos". She seems to be genuinely happy with the deal, which is always good.

She goes to get her coat and purse and the waitress comes to ask me for $20 pesos. I assume that´s the $10 pesos I already owe for the first drink, plus the cost of a second drink to take her out.

Into a cab and back to the apartment. I pour her some champagne and show her around. All the chicas are amazed that I have so much room just for myself. She says she lives in one little room. I ask her how much she pays for her one room and she replies $400 per month. No wonder she is so happy with our deal.

I put on the Gypsy Kings CD and she starts swinging and swaying and dancing around. I think I'm beginning to notice a distinct trend here. Vamanos a la cama. As she is undressing, I notice a small tattoo on the small of her back. I ask her what it is. "Pantera", she replies. "Tu eres mi pantera ahora, si?", I ask her. She laughs, "Si, señor".

When I finally see her in the altogeher, she really is gorgeous. Perfect figure, but very petite. She´s almost like a little doll in miniature. She is very sensual and genuinely seems to love being kissed and caressed. And there´s a lot to kiss and caress, lemme tell ya. We work ourselves up into a bit of a frenzy and she starts a CBJ but I´m afraid Guillermito is only about half awake. This is disturbing. A beautiful chica is a terrible thing to waste. I tell her that I will be back in a minute and head for the Vitamin V. I´ve never taken it before, but I decided to bring some on this trip, just in case.

I return to the bedroom and we continue with the foreplay, until the Vitamin V kicks in. She is lying on her stomach and I mount her from behind and get in one good shot on goal. I figure it´s all over but the shouting for another hour or so, but Guillermito seems to have a mind of his own now. He´s not tired at all. He´s already locked and re-loaded. This is a pleasant surprise. Mi pantera seems to think so too. No wonder people pay so much for this stuff. Just another example of better things, for better living, through chemistry.

We go at it for a while longer, trying different positions until finally we´re both tired. Laying there in bed together, she tells me about her life. Apparently, she shares this one room apartment with her brother. They have one bed. Her brother works during the day and sleeps at night, and she sleeps during the day. She tells me her brother makes AR$47 a month. I think that I must have misunderstood, certainly she means a day, or a week. But no, it's AR$47 a month.

After a while she rolls over and backs her derierre up against me and Guillermito is ready to go in no time. We go at it again for a while and I get one more shot in before we fall asleep in each other's arms.

Around 7:00 am, she nudges me awake and says that she has to get back to the club. Apparently all the chicas are expected to report in at the end of their "day". I pay her and walk her downstairs to the front door. As she is walking away, I take a look up at the sky and see the very first light of day. So she was true to her word, it really is. . . en la mañana.

Your correspondent in Buenos Aires,

Guillermo

Guillermo

06-24-03, 14:02

Elricardo,

El gusto es mio. I have neve met you, but I get the impression that you and I have similar tastes in women.

Wendy, of Escortsbaires, is on my short list. Do you still recommed her?

Grshel1

06-24-03, 14:16

Day Twelve – Alive and Smiling Ear to Ear.

Monday was a beautiful day. The sun was bright, the temperature was right and life here is beautiful. If you cannot tell I am enjoying this trip to Buenos Aires you need to log off and tune in to Dr. Phil or Dr. Judy or CNN News.

I wandered around the Recoleta area in the morning and ended up downtown having a fruit salad lunch at Orleans Cafe. Yes, the Queen of the Orleans was there along with a few of her loyal court. However, at two there were only about ten ladies in the place and five men counting yours truly. Alas, it was Monday.

I checked with Roxana and sure enough she had set up a five o’clock appointment for me with Alexia from Platynum. The young lady looks nice in the advertisement picture. Curiosity was getting to me whether she would stand the ‘up close and personal’ test.

In true Latin American style Alexia was 45 minutes late. But, she had called at 4:45. Now what she said on the phone I have not the slightest idea. Perhaps it was to verify that I existed. Perhaps to let me know she was going to be late. Fear of fears, perhaps to cancel.

The door bell rang and this short little blonde as standing there. I opened the door to behold the beauty that Argentina (and Roxana and Platynum) had delivered to my doorstep. She looked much younger than her pictures. And her two outstanding features looked even larger in real life.

Now I have had girl friends, and I have had girl friend experiences. Alexia provided the absolute best girl friend experience I have ever had with a working girl. Language barriers be damned, we laughed, we shared champagne, we took pictures. She kisses better and more than any other lady I have been with in Argentina or any other mongering land. The session seemed so natural and without the professional air that too often invades a session with a working lady.

I was dumbfounded to find that her enormous tits were natural. They have to be the largest set of natural mammaries I have ever seen outside of captivity. Time and gravity will take a toll on this lovely lass but, yesterday, she stood tall and made me stand equally tall. Her ever so lovely nipples responded to the slighest attention, be it a gentle twist or a determined sucking and nibbling. She also knew how to use that monsterous set to our mutual satisfaction. Nothing like watching your johnson massaged between them.

Our session in the bedroom was a continuation of the GFE with lots of kissing, mutual dining, caresses and of course the main entre included an extended variety of positions. After I finally popped a nut, Alexia made it her job to insure I would be ready for a second helping of the entre before our time ran out. Not to disappoint the lovely young lady, and to hieghten my own pleasures, I am proud to report she was most successful.

I am sure she overstayed the hour alloted, but of course that was to make up for being late. Actually, I think it must have been my natural charming personality. Maybe it was the wine, Vigel, and treating her like a girlfriend. Does it matter? Naw, I obviously had a fantastic time and I am still grinning from ear to ear like the gringo that just fell off the last turnip truck from American Airlines.
Roxana has a semi pro lined up for me at three today. It is a bit scary. My third, and definitely last, wife was named Patricia. This lady’s name is Patricia. My ex wife is now 30. This Patricia is 30. Could it be deja vu all over again? Details tomorrow, pictures when I get back to the states.

Guillermo

06-24-03, 14:24

Day 4

And on the 4th day, Guillermo... figured he'd better take a break.

I slept about 2 hours after mi pantera left. I think I've got a little hangover from the Viagra. Nothing so serious as to require additional medication, but there's no way I'm going to be able to sleep any more now. Such is life. . . after the fun, comes the hangover.

Out for breakfast at Cafe de la Paix, stop at the locoturio. I think I am not the only monger in the neighborhood. The list of previously visited sites on this version of Explorer is pretty much a who's who of BA escort services.

Off to cash some traveller's checks. Make sure you get to American Express by 3:00pm en punto. There's a cute little chica there who just can't wait to shut the door.

I figure I'd better take some touristy pictures, just in case anyone wants to know what I'm REALLY doing here. A little sight seeing and back to the apartment for a much needed nap. The rest of the night is spent looking at my Platynum printouts and planning my next campaign.

So, now I am up to date.

Your correspondent in Buenos Aires,

Guillermo

Jaimito Cartero

06-24-03, 19:06

Guillermo - I didn't go to the club you did, but I never paid more than 280 pesos for TLN. I'm not sure what time you took her back to the room, but 7am doesn't sound like a long time, either.

8 hours is the minimum, usally.

I too got crazy quotes for TLN, but almost all came down quite a bit. I just generally ask how much, and then wait until they come down on the price themselves. When they're in the ball park, I'll make a counter offer.

As Joe mentioned to me, I'll always give a definite time. Not just TLN, but 12 noon.

El Ricardo

06-24-03, 19:25

Originally posted by Guillermo
Elricardo,

El gusto es mio. I have neve met you, but I get the impression that you and I have similar tastes in women.

Wendy, of Escortsbaires, is on my short list. Do you still recommed her?

For me personally, no reservations. However, there are two things that are disturbing: a) she has always charged me Argentine prices (200 pesos/short time (1 to 1.5 hrs.)) When I met up with MRLA last Feb, he told me that he was not successful (working through Roxana) to get her to budge from her "prices for Americans" When I saw her later during the trip, it was still the same for me: ie she stayed most of the night for 300 pesos. I don't know why this is, but I don't challenge it and don't want to wreck it for myself...I just enjoy it! It could be because I've been seeing her for a few years, and my spanish continues to improve, so we can have a reasonable conversation. But in truth...I just don't know.

b) I believe she's getting tired of the business. She told me she recently bought a house, and was going to find other work by the end of the year. She's also putting a younger sister through school and that financial burden may be winding down for her.

So you might give it a try and let me know what you think.

I will give you one other more enthusiastic recommendation, and that's Emily of Escortsbaires. The price was 120 pesos in her apartment (DFK, DATY, BBBJ) Cute girl, enthusiastic sex, and I believe that she was so into it, that I could have penetrated "sin preservativo". I didn't of course, but it was certainly a delicious thought!

Good luck...and stay safe!
ER

Amantelondres

06-24-03, 19:48

Hey Guillermo

Glad to see that you've come across my numero uno chica Wendy. I see her every time I go to BA and is one of the most simpatica chicas I know. And she gives a damn good performance too, often arranging for a friend from the same building to join in.
When you next see her tell her Jeff from Londres sends his love!!

While on my last trip I also met a very nice cubana at Cutty Sark. Petite but wow a real goer.

I would also recommend Periplo opposite Marriott Plaza. At least to have a quick look and drink. You can get very lucky around 9 pm. Met Marcela from Mar del Plata who is there during the week.

All in all, a good trip. Getting on a bit, I'm not as good as I once was but am as good once as I ever was!

Downunder

06-24-03, 19:49

Guillermo thanks for the great posts. Your style of writing makes for some interesting reading. It would seem your man of above average income or just spurging because your on vacation. I tend to find I need a high level of chemistry and attractiveness with a chica to make the experience much more enjoyable then having to depend on Mr. Vigra but that's nearly impossible to get after a drink and a half hour conversation.

Super Unknown

06-25-03, 02:19

Thanks for the tip on Wendy, ElRicardo. She was on my "to-do" list for my trip this next week. Pictures look great, but sounds like YMMV. I may have to try out Emily instead based on your recommendation.

Guillermo, thanks for the reports. Maybe the pics of the amateur's will be put up on Jackson's site soon? Great info.

John Candy

06-25-03, 02:53

Originally posted by Guillermo
Day 2

I decide I´ve had enough of these jet-setting international call girls. I need a simple chica, with simple expectations.

I buy her a drink, which is $18,
Guillermo

Guiller,

$18 for 1 drink. (USD??)

Ay caramba!!!!

You can have three beautiful girls for that amount here in Cambodia. $5 USD per hour .

I was planning to visit BA on my upcoming Sao Paulo/Peru latin Buttfest fukathon.

But I have crossed BA off my list. There are simply better values in Sao Paulo (with no snobby girls).

Besides most girls in BA seems to be over 25 at the least. Way too old.

Sayonara!

Jaimito Cartero

06-25-03, 03:03

Cambodia- Unless otherwise noted, almost all prices are in Pesos. 2.8 pesos to the US dollar.

OutoftheGame

06-25-03, 04:35

Cambodia,

Those of us on this board enjoy the people of BA, and the city as well. We are all aware of the bargins to be had in Asia but for the most part we look at BA as more than a destination for sex. If your the type of person that enjoys taking advantage of poor people and 3rd world countries than I urge you not to visit BA. Most of us enjoy the fact that we can be in a beautiful and safe city that gives us many options of ladies we can pay to have sex with. I have never been to Asia but have heard many guys go on and on about how cheap it is. For me it is not a matter of money but the fact that when I have sex with a woman I want it to be someone I'm attracted to and not some cheap skank that only knows how to say "suckie suckie" or "fuckie fuckie". I have never been attracted to Asian women and never will be. In my lifetime I have only had sex with latin women because that's what I'm attracted to. Even if some girl wanted to have sex for free I wouldn't if I wasn't attracted to her. So I don't understand why you insist on going on other boards to bad mouth these destinations. Stay on your own section with your own kind.

Guillermo,

I know you have read this board for quite some time and I can't understand why you agreed to pay $400 for a TLN. I would think that by her first offer it was a sign that she didn't want to spend the nite with you and you would've walked away and moved on to another chica. Just remember that you are in control and the girls need your money alot more than you need them. I just hope Jackson talks some sense into you and you don't make this mistake again. I'm not trying to put you down I just think that the board is here to help guys out and let them know what to expect. Hope the rest of your trip goes well and maybe Uncle Otto can show you a few tricks when he gets into town.

Guillermo

06-25-03, 15:27

Originally posted by Cambodia Pro
Guiller,

$18 for 1 drink. (USD??)

Ay caramba!!!!

Cambodia,

If you're still out there. The official symbol for the Argentine peso is the dollar sign "$", so it gets a little confusing. It's a real pain in the rear end to have to be constantly specifying USD or AR so I just prefaced my posts by saying that all references to money are in pesos.

It was $18 pesos for the drink, at 2.72 pesos to the dollar I reckon that's about . . . $6.50 USD.

As outofthegame says, if all you're looking for is a cheapest possible fuck, then you will probably not like BA too much.

Guillermo

Guillermo

06-25-03, 16:28

OK, OK, all right already! Mea culpa, mea culpa. I promise to say 10 "Hail Mary" 's and 5 "Our Father" 's.

Honestly, I have been reading the board for some time. Every active post on the board, as a matter of fact, which I think takes us back for almost a year. My sense is that TLN is typically $300, so, yes, I paid $100 more than I should have. I did arrive early (early and late being relative terms in this town) which was around midnight. My sense is also that TLN is typically not possible until the wee hours of the morning, after everyone has come and gone at least once, or maybe twice and the chicas don't have too much too lose. So, yes, if I were taking a chica out at 3:00 or 4:00 am, then I would certainly expect her to stay until noon.

When I was in Hook, and I asked the chica how much for TLN at 1:00 am, she launched into a long explanation of why I should not do this. I couldn't catch everything, but I gathered that it would be possible, but with all the fines and fees necessary, very expensive. So my reasoning is (if "reason" is the correct word in this kind of situation), for an extra $100, I get to take her out now, as opposed to hanging around for another couple hours waiting for her to come down, or, finding another chica who will.

She did explain that all the chicas had to be back at the club in the morning, so I made my decision with that understanding.

I think the need for viagra was not as much a statement of a lack of chemistry as it was just a matter of trying to compress too much activity into a short period.

I am not rich, but yes I am splurging. Once in a great while, when the moon is in the 7th house and Jupiter aligns with Mars, I may have an opportunity to travel like this. My chances of coming back to BA are slim to nada.

And, yes, I am looking forward to meeting Tio Otto. Perhaps, he can straighten me out (so to speak).

So, I rest my case.

Su permiso, lo siento mucho. I am just a poor monger trying to find his way in this wicked world. Cross my heart and hope to die, I will never transgress like this again. Or at least if I do, I certainly won't tell YOU guys about it. ;-)

Your correspondent in Buenos Aires,

Guillermo