Buenos Aires - 2003 Reports [Archive]

Leo

01-03-03, 01:55

ok, back from 10 days in our favorite city. lots to cover, some to directly answer questions posted in the last week, the rest just to provide detail info.

first off, the holiday days – dec-24,25,31 & jan-1 – are not good for the hobby. places like madahos, playwoman, affaire, shampoo, blacks, and the like were all closed both nights of each of the two holidays. and internet girls were difficult to confirm/schedule, and nearly impossible to contact. the other days around the holidays seemed quite similar to any other time, though.

INTERNET GIRLS

first, a quick story. i left on jan-1, and i spent the entire day attempting to schedule a visit for about 4p. from noon until about 4p i continually called a list of 20+ girls, with no answers. finally, i get an answer from deana of gemidos (not close to the top of this list, either, let me add). on the phone she claimed she was dolly, which i assumed was just her real name. turns out there are two girls working from that number, as 30 minutes later a different girls shows. i sent her home without further discussion (with taxi & $10). ok, next i get through to elisa from gemidos (about at the bottom of this list). i now only have an hour, she wanted $100. she has the same face, but bigger ass, and a large mole on her cleavage. and reaked of cigs (a peeve of mine, i forgot to ask on the phone). did give a bbbj but only due to my verbal pleading - she said because she thought i was so attractive (whatever). ok, on to some better info…

fernanda = bianka = yazmin / platinum;
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she was the first girl i called upon my arrival dec-23. she wanted $250 for 1.5hrs or $450 for longer. i used lines like “no, please charge me the same as before” and “i want to pay the same as the other girls” in case my accent gave me away (which of course it would), but she wouldn’t budge. i suspect this was due to the holiday timing, and she just wasn’t interested in working, because i clearly made her understand that i know the market. i told her no thanks, maybe i’d call another time. i called her throughout my stay, and never got an answer again.

amira / escorts-argentina; at my place; i offered ar$200, she accepted.
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she was on time more or less. her body is about exact to the pictures. she used to have one picture that showed her face, but now it is blurred-out like the others, and she looks a bit older in person than in that picture. she told me she was 26, and that could be about right, although she looks closer to 28, not quite as pretty as the pictures represent her. probably shorter than the 1,65 listed. very gfe, sweet. i think she refused bbbj, but i’m not certain. we had exchanged emails prior to my arrival in ba.

greta / gemidos; at my place; i offered ar$200, she accepted.
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pictures are exact for her face, but her body is bigger. she even brought the school girls outfit and changed into it between our warming up time of 20-30 minutes on the couch and the move to the bedroom. said she was 21, and very likely was.

marisa / gemidos
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she worked something like 9p-6a, and thus i was unable to meet her. there is a madam named ari who speaks english that may answer the phone, or will get on the phone if needed. quoted me $60/30min or $80/hr, my place or theirs (belgrano).

fiorela / area-vip
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real name is pricila, we traded emails in advance. i called her throughout my visit, and never obtained an answer on a call.

maria / platynum
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she is working in chile now.

CLUBS

visited madahos, playwoman, affaire numerous times. also made single visits to hooks, solid gold, closer, shampoo. madahos and playwoman seem to have the best girls right now, and pretty close tie between them for best imho. i saw nothing good in solid gold. closer was aweful, only like 4 girls, all less than 5 (other than the waitress who told me she goes home with men on a selective basis). shampoo on a sunday night also had poor selection quality, but some quantity. the hooks visit was a weeknight (mon or tue) and there were like 20 girls there, not so bad. one was real nice looking, and left with my friend, as i found one of the prettiest girls i’ve met in all my ba club visits. brisa is a very petite 20 or 21 yr-old, and claims to be only one month into the business. i believe it as her skills were not let’s say well developed. and she made every move in the book on me (eg. asking for us$150 and then agreeing “oh, ar$150”; asking for money first; bbbj, etc), but in the end learned that i would have none of each attempt so she agreed versus losing me (eg. when she insisted that she get the money first, of course this was when we were naked in bed, right!?, after lengthy enough talking i practically got up to cancel). in addition, she could have used some assistance in the hygiene area, get my drift?…maybe this was a temporary thing…

regarding my visit to flores, i'll have to say andres covered it perfectly, exactly.

AMATEUR SCENE

ba is a great city for just going out, and chasing girls, if that's your scene. i would say here are your requirements:

1- of course, you like the non-pro scene enough, implying you have enough skills (have some rap and fun) also.

2- you speak just enough spanish; i speak just enough, say to say sit in a public school with 5th graders, i'm certainly not fluent, and my friends may speak less, and we have no problem.

3- you look right, meaning you're attractive to the girl, with regard to age, fitness, attractiveness, etc.

so, no, a 50+ dude going to a disco to catch a 20 yr-old probably won't work, certainly not on the first night. but a 30-40+ younger than his age not good looking enough and in shape dude that has some rap can do well, even score the first night.

in addition, it's fun and easy to meet girls in the day. i just walk the neighborhood, maybe shopping, and when i spot a looker i simply act like i'm walking the same direction and stop her to ask for directions (where is xxxx place, or xxxx street - even though i know it's one blk that way). unlike the u.s., my experience is like 80% of the girls will be intrigued by your accent and ask 'where are you from' before you have to ask her more.

here are some places for this scene:

daytime- ave florida pedestrian mall; santa fe between ave 9th de julio & puerdeon; your malls - alto palermo, patio bullrich, pacifico, etc; the streets of recoletta or others.

nights- bar/restaurants include the las canitas area (acre st), palermo viejo (plaza serano - honduras & serano), palermo hollywood (start at the bar unico, about 10-15 blks down hondurus (i believe) from plaza serano, asia de cuba on specific nights (wed? fri/sat?), millones (1/2 blk off of santa fe not far from calloa but i'm not sure of exact cross); discos include those in costanero area such as mint (hottest new spot) buenos aires news (past it's day i'd say), tequilla (only on tue or is it wed?), pacha (don't go on matine night when it's all under 18, sorry i don't know exact nights), davina or is it davino, rivera este (was great, don't know if still open).

Hefe

01-03-03, 03:44

With the prices this good in Ba, is there any good golf out there. I need some break to reload after a night of mongering. I will be there on 1/18/03 - 1/27/03.

thanks

Dancesw/Chicas

01-03-03, 06:42

Leo

Very good report amigo! Like you, I also combine both mongering and non-pro scene. Of the places you mentioned, Ribera del Este (this place was great and used to go off!) is closed I been told and so El Divino in Puerto Madero.

Asia de Cuba is a place where I have never been lucky. I guess people go there in groups and I myself look like any other Argentine guy. Perhaps if girls would know that I come from the US w/ $ to burn things will be different, but again there is good side to it.

Buenos Aires News is still good, but is too loud to start a conversation with anyone.

Some places that I think are good are La Diosa and Pacha both in costanera. I also heard good things out of "Follia" in Canitas. Some chicas say is their place to party so I think in here you can approach the girls with your charms and if that's not enough we just told them about our Uncle Sam. Just kidding!!......:-)

Regarding meeting girls during the day, Florida is good but Santa Fe is even better I think. From 9 de Julio all the way up to Alto Palermo mall is just blocks and blocks of fine girlfriend material.

Sometimes when I'm talking to one girl another one passes by that is just as fine. Too much Gazelas for one lion!!

So Leo, was BA as hot in January as people say? I read about being unbearable.

Later, dancesw/chicas

Toosh

01-03-03, 11:59

hefe,

I did not have much luck with golf in BA. As far as I could tell all the good courses (near BA)are private and you have to be a member to play or know a member who can get you on. Not likely. There was a not very good public course ( 4 on a scale of 10) I played in Belgrano (can't remember the name) that Mayri (argentinago.com) found for me. I played it a couple of times. You would have to get the name from Mayri. If you do want to play bring shoes and golf balls. Especially the golfballs. You can rent the clubs and the set I used was pretty good (Ping - 20 or 25 pesos). Not bad at all. Finally, I don't believe any of the courses are open on Mondays.

I am considering a trip to Thailand in February for the golf and the ho'ing. Sometimes I'm not sure which of the two I enjoy more.

Leo

01-03-03, 16:29

Originally posted by dancesw/chicas

Some places that I think are good are La Diosa and Pacha both in costanera. I also heard good things out of "Follia" in Canitas. ...

So Leo, was BA as hot in January as people say? I read about being unbearable.

Later, dancesw/chicas the 'hot spots' come and go fast, same as nyc or la or sobe... the hot new place in costanera is mint. canitas is much more laid back and bar oriented (vs. disco/club), and while i didn't see follia on this trip, i did go to soul food & voodoo, both were excellent.

the weather was hot, yes, but not nearly unbearable. i thought it was awesome actually - highs about 80 and only a little too humid.

Saint

01-03-03, 22:41

Andres,

I just got back into BA today from Rio. I didn't save the email you sent me. Let's hook up this weekend for lunch or dinner. Email me at saintofba@aol.com.

I just spent the last several hours at the closing of my second apartment. Oh man. I'm excited. That place is awesome. Makes me want to just move to Buenos Aires and live in it. It is argueably the nicest building in Recoleta (at least it's the newest..only 3 years old). It was interesting because some famous model lives in my building. Mayra was with me before going in and Mayra pointed the girl out to me.

It's good to be home.

Hi Saint,

Not to disapoint you, because I'm sure that your building is great, but my building is the newest one in Recoleta, having been built just last year.

Jackson

Ah...no biggie Jackson. I meant high rise apartment buildings. My apartment is on the 15th floor. The view at night is pretty cool. I'm moving over to it later today. I gotta get some more stuff for it but I'll have you over soon.

JamesBond69

01-04-03, 01:09

EXTRA! EXTRA!

GRINGO COLONIZER DISCOVERS EL DORADO SEXO!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.bonnefemme.com.ar

A five star brothel if there was ever one - at last looks that way on the web - but then you know, like internet girlsthat all look like Brittany Spears and Cristina Aguilar until you open the hotel door:-)

Check it out...for the sake of the mongerhood

badboy77777

01-04-03, 01:36

Has anyone seen Carlita and zoe on the Platynum site? they both look really hot. I would be very interested in any personal experiences as I plan my trip.

-badboy

DownBA

01-04-03, 13:34

JamesBond, looks like these chicas in bonnefemme are just more re-packaged internet girls as I've seen so many times before, for example, so many girls on platynum.com are the same ones on sensualbaires.com, etc, etc,. Camila of bonnefemme is all over the internet, I can safely say. As for the others, I can't identify any others as being on different sites but I'd venture to say that some of the other astute BA internet site lookers would be able to cross reference a number of them. The premises look inviting though, but for the extra money that you probably have to pay to use these premises, I think I'd have just as nice a time taking them to one of the fancy love "albergue transitorios" with mirrored ceilings, jell beds, jacuzzis, etc. This Camila chica, for one, looks like she's a VERY high mileage working girl, I don't know if I'd like to go near her with your staff. DownBA

DownBA

01-04-03, 13:43

Saint, there are lots of us that you're leaving hanging here for not having said a word of comparison thus far between BA and Rio. This is very un-Saint-like and we Saint readers figure that by now you easily would've written at least 5,000 words of comparisons now that you've experienced both places. On the Rio board there's even some speculation that you're feeling that you might have acted a little hastily in getting two places in BA now that you've seen how awesome Rio is first hand. So come on Saint, what's the deal? Why are you being so quiet about the Rio-BA comparison? DownBA

Andres

01-04-03, 13:48

jamesbond69:

Actually, I researched about Bonnefemme and found out that it is an apartment located in Barrio Norte, near Santa Fe Av and Ayacucho St. The madamspecified prices that were not clear, but they start from ar$100 for an hour, conventional service. I spotted one girl called Celeste in their website, the same as Candy in Sensualbaires. Both phone numbers belong to Bonnefemme.

As much as I understood, you were looking for a Termas-like place, and Bonnefemme seems to be only an upscale apartment.

Hope this helps.

Andres

JamesBond69

01-04-03, 14:00

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DownBA
Why are you being so quiet about the Rio-BA comparison? DownBA [

I have insider information that Saint has written a detailed 10 page Rio report that is on KyckStands laptop but not yet posted online.

When and where the Rio report will be posted is not confirmed at moment.

PS
Your instincts are right DOWNBA. Early reports are that the Rio report is highly pro-Rio scene/garota skills. I don't know if it gives Rio the edge over BA.

JamesBond69

01-04-03, 14:07

I was looking for a Termas-like place in BA but realize that probably doesn't exist.

Now I will settle for information on the most elegant high star brothel in BA, something like Heidi Fleiss's place in Beverly Hills or the legendary Storyville Brothel in New Orleans, with all 10's in a five star setting. So far Bonnefemme seems the closest there is (and it's not really very close) but I can only tell by the photographs.

As far as Brothels go in BA I've only gone to French Street and Cielo, and neither come close to the level I'm looking for.

BA_Robert

01-04-03, 14:12

About Bonnefemme:

They advertise in Ambito Financiero sometimes. Some guys have already mention that some of the girls advertise on escortsites as Platynum and sensualbaires. This also goes for Jorgelina and Angeles. These girls are not in the top end of the girls on Platynum on the contrary... I've seen about 75 percent of the Bonnefemme girls on other websites.

According to very well informed sources (as it's usually called), there is nothing such as a luxury top end brothel. There are however ways to get independent top models or TV stars in BA if you have the right connections.

BA_ROBERT

Andres

01-04-03, 14:20

Report, 9th issue

01/03 - Cruising on Friday night

After a short recess, I came back to action. Left at 11PM towards Suipacha and Paraguay and walked into Hook.

The place was empty of customers and girls were just arriving. I counted about 20 girls, few of which were over 6. Again, the only girl that called my atention was Viviana (?), the girl from Entre Rios. There, I found a fellow monger who was looking for better places, so I referred him this board for future references. ar$12 for the drink.

By 12AM, I left the place and checked Catto's. No cation there, fewer than 10 girls and none of them qualifying. Just a bunch of customers. ar$10 the drink. One of the barmen who knows me told me that most girls will be away until February-March, so I will think twice before coming to the area.

By 12:30AM, I took a cab and headed towards Recoleta. Went to Affaire, who charged me ar$15 for a drink. Inside, there were 30-40 girls, with the remaining girls on vacation. Few customers and few girls who were worth the ar$150 they wanted for a session. Left the place and went to Playwoman.

Another fiasco: Playwoman had about 20 girls, but few of them were really interesting. A tall, big-boobed brunette approached me and was very sexy (you know, the kind of Marylin-Monroe look of "I'm a stupid blonde ready to be fucked"). She kept her cigarrettes box between her boobs and was very pushy. I got rid of her but may return later to give her a try. ar$20 the drink.

I thought about visiting Sodoma but a strange feeling told me that the place may be dead, so I followed my instincts, took a cab and went to Nuevo Estilo.

So much for my intuition... The place was awfully full of patrons and many girls were on leave for vacation. Just 8-10 girls and 100+ patrons. No chance to have a nice session, although therewere 2 or 3 hotties. A warning on what to expect there for the remaining of January. ar$15 the entrance fee, 1 drink included. One girl told me that sessions prices depend on the girl, confirming what I found out last Monday.

By 2:15AM, I took a cab and went to Envidia, in Flores. The place was much less crowded than on Monday, and there were fewer girls. ar$5 the entrance and ar$10 the cab from Nuevo Estilo. However, I found a girl who I wanted to do, called Magalí. For ar$50, we went up for 30 minutes, and for ar$20 she agreed for a BBBJTC. It was a good surprise when I found out that her big boobs were firm and natural. I cannot tag her as a classy lady (for the way she spoke), but it was OK for my intentions (I didn't expect her to use her mouth to talk). Her BBBJ was just good, using too much the hand. Not bad but not memorable either.

Hope this helps,

Andres

JamesBond69

01-04-03, 14:23

Originally posted by BA_ROBERT

According to very well informed sources (as it's usually called), there is nothing such as a luxury top end brothel. There are however ways to get independent top models or TV stars in BA if you have the right connections.

BA_ROBERT

You are refering I assume to the legendary and extremely difficult to get TV TEN BOOK, right?

MoonDog

01-04-03, 16:00

JB69,

What is the TV Ten Book?

JamesBond69

01-04-03, 16:49

Originally posted by moondog
JB69,

What is the TV Ten Book?

The TV Ten Book confidential book of TV stars that moonlight in the "life". You have to quality to see it, like a high roller in Vegas. It's owned by an old line BA escort agency.

I never saw it but a companion in BA had a look at it - the girls were all argentine high fashion well known models and TV actresses, socialites, etc and available at US top call girl rates.

It's the height of the profession to get into this book. Among other places it's provided to the concierges at the five star BA hotels to show to their best/regular guests ie top executives, celebrities, heads of states, etc.

Certainly not something for guys like us that frequent Playwoman and Solid Gold and bargain sometimes to get chicas for 100 - 200 pesos.

But I do believe there must be a brothel equivalent with more modest prices, something above blacks in quality and in a brothel setting.

Dancesw/Chicas

01-04-03, 18:27

Amigos!

I am glad that I finally contribute a little bit.

The bonnefemme apartment in Santa Fe that is been mentioned here lately is a good place to go and give it a try. I don't know about being a 5 star but let me tell you. The place is managed by a madam, she open the door for you and tell you the "aranceles": 100 for 1 hour and 150 for 1:15 including "la colita". Pesos that is.

You are taken into a room and the girls start coming and greet you wearing high heels and lingerie. There are usually 5-7 girls all between 6 and 8. I have not seeing a 9 or 10 there yet. I understand considering that 50%
of the money goes to the house.

The rooms are nice and clean. They also do outcalls at the same rates + taxi. I recommend to go and see the girls in person before you have them send to you.

My theory is that when a girl enter the business the first step is to go a have some pictures taken at their prime shape. After just a few months they can change a lot with money, working regime, hours etc...
Later, dancesw/chicas

Andres

01-04-03, 19:37

jamesbond69:

I heard about these books.

Two of the supposed providers in these books are (or were) the former TV entertainer for kids Flavia Palmiero and the actress Araceli Gonzalez (the wife of the actor and TV producer Adrian Suar). I heard that Araceli charged US$20,000 for a whole night during the 90s. Personally, I need girls, not money-accounts vacuum cleaners.

I just take them as rumors, although credible.

Hope this helps,

Andres

apstar

01-04-03, 20:53

DownBA & JB69,
This Camilla girl is indeed high mileage; when I was in BA during Thanksgiving, she was one of the internet girls I hooked up with. One day after I had called up 3 or 4 internet girls and getting nowhere, one of the places I called suggested a 'redhead' for Ar$100/hr. For Ar$100 I figure why the hell not and this is the girl that showed up at the hotel door. No doubt she is high mileage but along with the mileage she had picked up some 'maneuvers' along the way. She gave a pretty good session all together and posed a crap load of pictures for me. All that for 30 bucks!! Not a bad way to spend a lazy afternoon in BA IMHO.

Octatron

01-04-03, 21:42

I was back in BA for one night last night. Started in Recoleta with some female friends I work with. Luckily I was able to ditch them around 1:30 AM, that’s when I started looking around.

I made a quick stop in Newport, and just the regular Brazilian barracudas in there. So I decided to check out the downtown clubs which I have never been to.

I went to Ness, Hook, and Cattos, a couple others as well. All were dead with some women sitting around, but nothing got my attention so I decided to check out Nuevo Estilo. Andres was correct. There must have been close to 100 guys there with what I saw were about seven girls, three of them were stunners. I almost was about to take the girl with the black and white streaks in her hair, but decided to go to Salome instead.

But I think I will for sure return to Nuevo Estilo in the future.

I got to Salome around 3:00 AM, and had a decent selection. I picked a girl within a few minutes, can’t remember her name though. She asked for USD $100.00. I can’t remember if I laughed at her or told her she was crazy, but she quickly changed her fee to $100.00 pesos. So I was set for the night.

Salome is definitely my favorite spot in BA.

MoonDog

01-04-03, 22:14

Originally posted by jamesbond69
The TV Ten Book confidential book of TV stars that moonlight in the "life". You have to quality to see it, like a high roller in Vegas. It's owned by an old line BA escort agency.

JB69,

Thanks for the info. I will check into it. :)

Moondog

BA_Robert

01-05-03, 08:20

Jamesbond69,

The TV TEN BOOK is one approach, but not anything that should be discussed in this forum. I have agreed not to talk about it anyway. LOL.

However, there are other ways! This is not really any secret. Not bound by any promise here. There are guys one can contact who can provide argentine comercial super models if you want to have a party for your friends. The prices however were very high. Not near the range of regular mongering. Prices in dollars. We are talking about 200-300 US$ per gal. The cool thing is that they are able to provide 5-15 girls on a very short notice. I guess its Blacks 12th anniversary style.

Andres,

Flavia Palmiero. Is that the former Flavia Miller? Flavia Miller can be provided by these guys, but not for as much as 20,000$. She is among the top end girls. I can't exactly remember but we are talking about 4000$/´hour. However, she has the reputation to be a clockwatcher. Also, when I talk to our contact he mention that she wasn't available for a month because she was getting married. Could that be to Palmiero?

BA_ROBERT

BA_Robert

01-05-03, 08:24

If anyone is wondering who Flavia Miller is, just go to a Google or Yahoo and write Flavia Miller and you will get a pretty good idea what she looks like.

BA_ROBERT

Andres

01-05-03, 12:05

BA_ROBERT:

Flavia Miller and Flavia Palmiero are two different persons.

Flavia Miller is a blonde, vedette-style robust woman with looks closer to "fucking machine" than to "classy lady". She starred an Argentine porno movie several years ago.

Flavia Palmiero is an average-build brunette, very pretty for sure but not vedette style.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Saint

01-05-03, 14:51

Met up with Andres last night for dinner and ice cream. Very good guy. I hope to meet up and hobby with him later in the week. I showed him both my apartments. He seemed to like them. Here is my second apartment if anyone is interested. I might get another one before I leave in two weeks.

I've met up with alot of business contacts here that know Americans so it's been nice.

http://hometown.aol.com/saintofba/libertad.html

MoonDog

01-05-03, 16:04

BA Robert,

Thanks for the info.

Moondog

Andres

01-05-03, 18:06

lotsafun:

Yes, it's her. I didn't say average looking, but average build (I mean, she is not a German Panzer Tank like the mulatas brasileiras and the big Cubanas, who can play as quarterbacks in the NFL).

Andres

MRLA

01-06-03, 00:46

Hey guys quick questions,

1. Do I need an adapter to use my electric razor?

@ Why are there on pictures of BA ladies on the photo board. Wood like to see real ones instead of internet photos.

MRLA

Andres

01-06-03, 00:53

MRLA:

1) Yes. You may buy one of these in a ferreteria (hardware store). It should cost cents. Be aware that the network is set at 220 VAC, so don't bring your razor if it only works at 110 VAC.

2) Discretion pays off, so mongers don't want girls to broadcast the girls pictures in a free site.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Dickhead

01-06-03, 00:55

OK, I am in Miami now and boy do I hate the place. But I will be in BA Tuesday at 11 AM and will be there until the 17th. Any of you posters want to hook up, let me know. Staying at the Dazzler as previously mentioned. I will tell the desk that in addition to calls for my real name (which I don't why there hell there should be any of those!), that any calls to "Mr. Head" should go to my room as well. Probably 20 pesos will help them to remember. Or, if you see me in any of the clubs don't be shy. I have red hair and glasses, middle aged, not too tall (taller lying down though ha ha) and got a little mustache and goatee thing going right now. I am experienced Latin American traveler, OK Spanish (quite functional but not sure I'll understand the accent), and have mongered on five continents. I'm only a Dickhead when I need to be.

Thank you for all the advice. I re-read pages and pages of postings today and I am getting really amped up.

Mr. Head

Ferolga777

01-06-03, 02:37

MRLA says: 1. Do I need an adapter to use my electric razor?

Yes you do. This is just based on my experience, but I think that you are better off buying an adapter in the US. The adapters I bought in Argentina were not of as high a quality as those that you can buy in the US. Also, I spent a day going from hardware store to hardware store looking for a store that had one. Why risk wasting valuable vacation time when you can bring a high quality adapter with you?

DownBA

01-06-03, 03:15

MrLA and others, re the electronics in BA issue: there are two things you need to know. 1-items like your laptop will work fine with a simple adaptor since laptops are dc devices which typically have a power supply attached to the power plug that accepts up to 220 volts ac and converts the 220 to the dc volts the laptop uses, thus the only thing you need is the plug adaptor since the Argentinian plug is different that the USA plug.

2-items like your electric razor or hair dryer, which are ac devices, will work if you buy a current converter which you can buy for $10-15 ar. at the large home center stores like Home Depot or a store called "Easy" which you'll find next to the Palermo "Jumbo", which is a huge, French owned Walmart type store. This "Easy" is about a 10 minute cab ride from la Recoleta. Also, you would find this converter at the other French owned Walmart type store called "Carrefour". The converters not only adapt the USA plug to the Argentinian one but also convert the Argentinian 220 current to the 110 v ac for the US device, so there's no problem at all. I sell US made 110 v ac devices to Argentinian companies all the time and they have no problem using them with these inexpensive converters.

It's true that Argentina's system is 50 hz and ours is 60 hz but this is not problematic for our equipment working down there as long as you convert the 220v to 110 for our devices.

BA also actually has at least one Home Depot so you can try there first and I recommend that you not waste your time with the local "ferreterias" as they're not nearly likely to have the converter you need. Also, the major hotels like the Etoile, for example, will lend you the plug adaptor free of charge. They ask you to sign that if you don't return it you agree to their 20peso charge.

Last but not least, I wouldn't sweat the internet access thing either since the city is lined with internet access shops, which are very often part of the same places called "Locutorios", the shops with the banks of phones. Typically these places charge you like a few pesos per 15 minutes and you can connect via Internet Explorer and surf the lovelies on the Argentinian escort sites without having to worry about connecting for outrageous rates in your hotel room.

Hope this helps. DownBA

DownBA

01-06-03, 03:29

Dickhead, why wait til you get to BA....check out some Argentinian honeys right there in Miami. Girls 40 and 19 on escortsbaires.com are Argentinian and they're living right there in Miami and working as escorts and providing the same awesome service that most of the Argentinian chicas provide in BA. And there was another one named Nataly that used to be on escortsbaires and platynum.com.ar, that doesn't seem to be on the sites anymore, and she was living in Miami or perhaps still is. I had the pleasure of seeing Nataly last year when I was in Miami and I swear I thought I died and went to heaven the way she rode me. I haven't had the pleasure of knowing girl 40(but have it on good authority that she'll ride you like you've never been riden before) but I have seen girl 19 several times and can tell you that she's great company and a tigress in bed too. Of course they say ymwv but I'd vouche for Natalia, girl 19, giving you more than your money's worth if you decide to check her out. So you can get your feet and your stinger wet right there in Miami before you hop the plane for the monger capital of the world! Hope this helps. DownBA

Andres

01-06-03, 06:06

Report, 10th issue

Lame but successful Sunday night

Sundays in BA have no much hobby action, especially during the Summer. However, I wanted to check some unknown places, so I tool the car and off I went.

First place to go was a pub located in Fray Justo SM de Oro St 2280 (close to Oro St and Paraguay St). Entrance fee was ar$5 and there were 15 girls, all of them substandard (3-5s). The place has in-site facilities and charges ar$50 for 30 minutes and ar$80 for 1 hour (also ar$40 for 20 minutes). Even if it was Sunday, I esteem that quality won't improve significantly. I left and went to Colegiales quarter to visit Venus.

Venus is located at Forest Av 1215. It has a small entrance that goes downstairs. Entrance fee was ar$10. Gees! I saw the worst selection ever in BA: Two girls (grannies would be a better description) with more wrinkles than a turtle. They told me that there are usually 4-5 girls. I give them a 1 (at most 2), so I won't come back, for sure. Same prices as detailed before. From there, I went to Flores.

There were some SWs in Flores close to Bacacay and Bolivia, but nothing acceptable. Then, I saw that the usual places were open (Envidia, La Nuit, etc) and decided to try La Fuente.

ar$6 for the entrance (as usual). I spotted 7 girls, none of them gorgeous. Definitely, quality decreased from my previous trips. For those who know Envidia, these girls are in average worse than those at Envidia. One girl called Gabriela, who has nice legs and a beautiful butt (but small boobs) called my attention. I decided to spend 30 minutes with her for ar$50, including the hotel fee.

In the room, she started to provide a very good BBBJ that went to completion. Great! After that, she started talking so much about her life and other nuances that I pictured myself as George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers singing "You talk too much!"

Hope this helps,

Andres

MRLA

01-06-03, 22:55

Hey Guys,

I have received a couple of e-mails regarding the "West Coast Mongers Meeting" Nobody wanted to pick a date, so I will. Jan 11, at 1:00. E-mail me and I will tell you were. I will make sure it is a place we can watch the playoffs if you want.

My E-mail is ....www.mrla4@earthlink.net

Hope to see you Sat.

MRLA

El Ricardo

01-06-03, 23:03

Tengo una pregunta:

I'm looking for ideas of little gifts I can bring along. Perhaps things that are easy to obtain here, but difficult there. Any ideas? In the past, I've purchased T-shirts at O'hare with a Chicago influence, special CD's that I liked, perfume, massage oil, creams, etc. What do you guys find that the ladies like a lot?

I'll be in BA for 2 weeks in February from the 7th to the 24th. I know MRLA will be there at least for a few days while I'm there...perhaps we can hook up for dinner...anybody else at this time?

Still trying to close on an apartment. I've been e-mailing between Mayra @argentinago, and Francisca at alojargentina. We're getting close, but its also getting late.
thanks for any help you can provide
ER

DownBA

01-07-03, 02:28

Guys, I'm TOTALLY SMITTEN by this chica named Lara on escortsbaires.com....would somebody PLEASE do some research on this awesome, young chica with amazing natural breasts and let this hornball know if he should hop on the next flight down to BA to sample her unbelievable looking wares first hand. I want to know if she's a nice in bed as she looks in the pics. Thanks, DownBA

Starfe

01-07-03, 04:33

down ba,

you are 1 lucky man. this is a woman that will darn your socks when you leave to bring the bacon home. she cares little for money but much for the " love of pleasure "

treat her well and the gods will smile on you.

starfe

p.s.

she loves a golden shower in the morning

Starfe

01-07-03, 04:36

elricardo

try bring down a baby black bear. or even a lion cub. the girls go crazy for these cuddly animals

just a thought

JamesBond69

01-07-03, 06:02

Originally posted by starfe
elricardo
try bring down a baby black bear. or even a lion cub. the girls go crazy for these cuddly animals

just a thought

A fellow monger Johnguapo brought down dozens of the listerine mouth deodorant strips that sell at drugstores and melt on your tongue.

They don't have them YET in Buenos Aires and the chicas went crazy for them. I think he got a serious discount once because of these one dollar pack of strips.

PS

They also prevented any problems in advance with bad breath.

High on Hobbyin

01-07-03, 08:03

elricardo
I just cleared up my problems and will begin to try to book my first trip. My tentative dates had been 2/5 through 2/20 with a side trip to Mar del Plata. I've decided to also add a side trip to Rio de Janerio (since Carnival will be in high gear at the end of the month I figure the cariocas might migrated to Rio in advance of the festivities and my be safe enough for a look by myself.) Will begin booking tomorrow. Wish me luck! Will post again once I get everything straight.

CityDude

01-07-03, 08:35

Originally posted by DownBA
.....this awesome, young chica with amazing natural breasts and .....

On escortsargentina.com (platynum.com.ar) there are three I have sampled in the recent past - Ada,Attina and Anastasia - Lovely lusious papayas - yumm yumm :)

MRLA

01-07-03, 12:11

Hey City Dude,

Can you please tell me the rates you payed these ladies.(Basic per hour in pesos). On the profile, they all list $100us per visit. After reading the board, I know this can't be true.

I just looked up Lara on Platyum, and I guess DownBA will not be in BA in February. LARA WILL BE IN THE U.S.A. Hey DownBA I guess I'll have to see you on my next trip.

Elricado-Guess it's just you me, and High on Hobbyin in Feb. Guys I'll be there 2/2-2/11. Get in touch with me thru my e-mail, we'll hook up for dinner. (mrla$@earthlink.net

Be Cool!
MRLA

CityDude

01-07-03, 12:59

Originally posted by MRLA
Hey City Dude,

Can you please tell me the rates you payed these ladies.(Basic per hour in pesos). On the profile, they all list $100us per visit. After reading the board, I know this can't be true.
....
If 'm not mistaken it was A$250 and Ada was A$300. You see I come from a GBP land, so once I explain we switch to pesos.

Saint

01-07-03, 13:47

Very quick update. Been keeping VERY busy lately with business dealings. Yesterday was the first time I got a car and just drove around Buenos Aires. There is so much more to the city than Recoleta. Unless you are a confident driver it's probably not a good idea to drive and no need to for the average person coming here only a few days or weeks.

People aren't the best drivers here. I drove all over and had no problems whatsoever. I plan on living here in the near future so I'd naturally get a car if I did.

I plan on hobbying tonight with Andres. The weather is great. The strength of the dollar is slipping a little. The exchange rate the other day was 3.35 pesos to the $1 US. Weather is perfect in the 80's.

I looked at my 3rd apartment yesterday. It was nice but they were asking too much. I've found now that I have 2 apartments all the owners in Recoleta that I'm going to are very willing and eager to take my US Dollars to close a deal. I'm also thinking of starting some sort of business here and opening an office in Recoleta. More later.

Saint

Ralph Roberts

01-07-03, 14:54

All very interesting Saint, but quite honestly, I don´t think most of us are interested in how many apartments you have, how many business you have, or what the weather is like.

I thought this was the World SEX Guide, not the loney planet website !

Come on man ! WHERE IS THE PUSSY ?!?!?!?

Exon123

01-07-03, 15:41

Saint --- We'd all like a report on your activities in Brazil and your general comments as compared to Buenos Aires --- Thank You in advance --- Exon --- and P.S. --- Did you get a hold of Paula ?

SuperTomcat001

01-07-03, 15:46

First, Saint, you did a great job, but I have to agree with Ralph Roberts this time. This is SEX GUIDE, people are looking for inexpensive pussy!!! I read most old posts, the price range from $100 pesos to $150USD per hour. What's reasonable price? Does anyone can give me a hint? Girls from platynum.com are totally gorgeous!!! I'm planing to go to BA March.

mazen

01-07-03, 16:22

Originally posted by Ralph Roberts
All very interesting Saint, but quite honestly, I don´t think most of us are interested in how many apartments you have, how many business you have, or what the weather is like.

I thought this was the World SEX Guide, not the loney planet website !

Come on man ! WHERE IS THE PUSSY ?!?!?!?
I agree with you 100%! Look at Andres reports, they are so great and full of information about girls, clubs, prices, places, addresses etc! That's what we want to read!
Soon I'll be back in BA. Then I will visit the Bonnefemme place among many other things. You can expect a report from there then. Has anyone been there yet? A review would be very appreciated!

Thanks!

Mazen

JamesBond69

01-07-03, 16:25

Originally posted by supertomcat001
First, Saint, you did a great job, but I have to agree with Ralph Roberts this time. This is SEX GUIDE, people are looking for inexpensive pussy!!! .

I disagree regarding posts on the WSF not directly related to sex.

Of course this is a SEX GUIDE and posts about the various chicas, clubs, etc are right on the money but some of us (the luncky ones) like Saint are thiconsidering moving to Buenos Aires to indulge in the hobby full time, not as just as vacation activity.

Therefore any information about renting/buying an apartment, starting a business, etc, is interersting to me and I think some others.

I do think that there should be a separate BA forum for this called something like "For the Full Time Buenos Aires Monger but until there is I find any posts about these subjects are worthwhile and should be encouraged, so keep them coming.

Dancesw/Chicas

01-07-03, 16:39

Mazen, I did a report on bonnefemme. It was posted january 4.

Saint, Keep posting! all the info about weather, driving, exchange rates conditions is greatly appreciate for those of us who visit BA regulary.

I don't understand how some people think is useless. A trip to BA involves much more than explicit sexual reports.
dancesw/chicas

thor

01-07-03, 17:09

As a soon to be BA rookie, I too enjoy the occaisional off the sex track post by Saint and others. After all, we need to do something in the days, besides F!
I want to be able to take advantage of the tailors, bargains in jewelry, antiques, etc as well. For some of us, it will help to defray, at least partially, the costs of the trip.
If you don't want to read it, just skip it.
These posts, at least to me, are much more preferrable to the unorganized repetitive rambles of one of the more prolific posters on the SA boards!
If Jackson saw a problem with them, he would say so, as he does have the ultimate final say.

larscraven

01-07-03, 17:37

Dear Fellow Mongers,
As a new member to this board, I would like to thank those of you who have provided such great information regarding BA. As a fairly experienced traveler who usually alternates between SE Asia and Brazil, I will be making my first visit to BA toward the end of the month. By day, I hope to take in as much culture as the City has to offer, and by night, I hope to explore "night town"to the fullest extent. As I will be solo, I invite anyone who wants to hang a little bit, be it a soccer match, a drink, or whatever, before proceeding on to the evenings main events, do feel free to e mail me at larscraven@hotmail.com. The first few rounds are on me.
I will be in BA on the 24th of January for 6 days and then heading off to Rio for another week.

PS. Mr Saint, we exchanged e mails back in early December, and I would like to thank you once again.

SuperTomcat001

01-07-03, 19:10

Originally posted by thor
If you don't want to read it, just skip it.
These posts, at least to me, are much more preferrable to the unorganized repetitive rambles of one of the more prolific posters on the SA boards!
If Jackson saw a problem with them, he would say so, as he does have the ultimate final say.
I guess there are some misunderstandings. I just want to find out more details such as price, location, phone #, etc. From old posts, the prices change a lot. As a poor student, saving hundres dollar are quite big thing for me.

LA Larry

01-07-03, 22:17

I encourage Saint to post whatever the hell he wants.

His past trip reports have helped us all immesurably. Me especially because I was able to make it through the cold winter of Moscow living vicariously through Saints excellent trip adventures in Argentina. (and Mexico and Tiajuana).

He's one of the few (maybe 25 guys) on the whole world wide forum--that writes thoughtful, intelligent reports.

If anything--I want to hear more info on apartments, economy, restaurants, etc--as long as it pertains to Buenos Aires--since any news I get factors into my overall knowledge of the scene.

If you don't like Saint's occasional off topic posts, simply scroll down. It takes two seconds!

TO SAINT:

Please! Please! Please! Saint, tell us about Rio--I've been on tenterhooks for over a week. Your silence is cruel and unusual! A form of monger torture!!!
(lol)

Happy New Year!
LA Larry
The saddest man in Moscow

ibiza007

01-07-03, 22:29

City Dude,

Are you a Russ Meyer fan ?, your 3 recomendations all have six large common traits.To those that have not looked at Citydudes favorites, I think 120cm is the minimum chest size. I can hardly wait until you start exploring past the A names. Look forward to hearing your reports on the B - C -D ... names.

Regarding Saints report - I think this is a TRAVEL sex guide as much as sex guide. As most of us are or will be visitors, and not residents of BA, these types of posts kind of set the feel of the city. I looked at his apartment photos and it is very European in its look.

Ibiza

Chowder

01-07-03, 23:10

Hi,

I also like reading Saint's posts. Especially what he feels about the climate in BA. Everything that I have read from this forum has made BA my next vacation trip. Now if only the stock market will cooperate so I can take the trip!

Dickhead

01-07-03, 23:24

Day 1. Landed at 10 AM. Took board advice vis a vis changing money at the airport OUTSIDE the baggage claim area = 3.27. Taxista tried to talk me into other hotels and was very anxious to sell me his services as a private driver but he drove like shit.

Dazzler room is good. Mirrored closet is a nice touch. Took Saint's poor man´s tour, got something to eat, (Ce Bleu, very good and cheap). Figured I'd crash since I flew all night and hadn't slept. Could not since my dick so hard there was not enough skin left to shut my eyes. Called Gema from Escorts BA. Number is disconnected. Called Eliana; not available. Called Gabriela. This is 6 PM and she says she can be there at seven "en punto." Yeah, right. 7:01 desk calls and she is there.

170 peso quote for hour and a half, two shots (thinking that is optimistic since I am so fucken tired). BBJ although not TC although not saying it wouldn´t be possible. Did not ask for money up front and I did not request BBJ.

Long story short I thank the man who recommended the Pocket Rocket as that blew her out of the arena. Also she liked that I hade flavored condoms and warm honey and jam ready.

Very nice gal, no pushing for tips, no bullshit, suck, fuck, suck, fuck, DATY. Massage. Got it up for round two but not off. Too bad so sad.

Highly recommended. Not the body to die for but neither am I. Gave her 200 and the website where the Pocket Rocket can be purchased. She says it could replace a lot of husbands.

Fuckin tired now and in la la land. Everything looks pretty good so far. Saint I think your mini tour has a wrong turn; I think you turn right on Suipacha and not left but anyway Ness and Hooks are one block off Paraguay in SOME direction.

Tomorrow I think maybe Aixa.

CityDude

01-08-03, 01:24

Originally posted by ibiza007
City Dude,

Are you a Russ Meyer fan ?, your 3 recomendations all have six large common traits.To those that have not looked at Citydudes favorites, I think 120cm is the minimum chest size. I can hardly wait until you start exploring past the A names. Look forward to hearing your reports on the B - C -D ... names.

.......

Your observations, though astute; are a bit off the mark -- I only commented on the affinity of a certain punterer for generous pescho (sp?).

I also am into A cups too :) It is all about mood, and the setting - a.k.a Just because I like Murphy's does not mean that I do not embibe in John-Powers straight up with a nip on the side :)

apstar

01-08-03, 06:21

I have to agree with LA Larry/JB69 regarding the posts by Saint. Afterall, knowing what else to do besides f**king in a city the size of BA would make, IMO, the whole travel experience more complete. I mean, I am as big of a horndog as the next guy, but you do need to get out from your hotel bed once in while to see what Buenos Aires has to offer. Saint's exploits in BA are well documented here and was what inspired me to go to BA during thanksgiving break. You gotta admit, his posts on BA were so fun to read that I couldn't help but be infected with his enthusiasm for BA. Saint, for those of us who appreciate your posts, keep them coming(I also like your posts on the CH boards by the way!)

MRLA
When I was in BA over thanksgiving, I managed to hook up with 4 ladies from the escort sites with my high school spanish. I don't think I ever paid more than 150 peso/hr with most ladies going for 100 pesos/hr. I did talk to a couple that wanted 200 pesos an hour but I quickly moved on to next escort on my personl list.

EZE_Amante

01-08-03, 09:46

Dickhead,

Good post. Can you post the url for the site for the pocket rocket and flavored raincoats? I've seen lots of them, and used a few, but always interested in new toys for the chicas.

Like apstar, the typical prices I've paid for internet girls is 100p accross the board, and one for 150p, but she stayed 2 hrs. Club girls prices vary by what they think you will pay, usually slightly higher. I've had the range from 100p full service (Affaire) for 3hrs (I threw in a hefty tip for enthusiasm), to 400p (Black) for 1.5 hours (I blame it on the scotch and the chica was beautiful, first trip mistake) I won't do that again (unless of course the conditions are right :). I doubt prices will change much with the strengthening of the peso, but I'm no expert, just my humble opinion. Whether you pay 100p or 100US, the chicas for the most part are still a bargain because of the level of personal service they provide. I always tip well for good service, and my repeat sessions have been nothing short of amazing.

I stayed accross the street from Blacks last trip, and only went in once, and left alone. Which club is best varies from week to week, night to night, as there is a constant stream of new talent at most of these places. Madahos seems to be hot right now, but wait a month, and it will be a different club. That said, the night of the week makes a huge difference in the numbers of girls available in the clubs and from the internet. Monday through Thursday are all good, Friday and Saturday the action is worse, and Sunday nights are dead. I've found setting up a full day date on Sunday is the best bet, or use that day for your typical tourist activity.

Saint's posts? Posts don't get any better. The level of information provided in his posts is the best. Over the last several months, he has provided a ton of specific information on everything from the chicas to restaurants, apartments, and sightseeing activities. I like the fact they come from a different point of view than from a local's like Andres, as most of us are not as fluent in castellano, nor will we be treated like a local as soon as the girls hear our accents. I appreciate both perspectives. Anyone who has taken the relatively small amount of time it takes to read through the archives here, will find all the information you need, whether you are staying for 3 days, or 3 months.

Just my 2 pesos worth.

EZE :)

Ralph Roberts

01-08-03, 11:43

Wow, seems like I have touched a sensitive subject. Didn´t expect to see so many replies.

The thing is, look at this BA thread for example.

IT´S MORE THEN 10 PAGES LONG !!!
I think it´s safe to say that probably more then half is about appartments, Argentinean driving skills and more stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with sex.

If I want to find anything regarding sex (this IS the World SEX Guide isn´t it ?? :rolleyes: ) then I have to plough through pages and pages of this CRAP and it´s becoming very tiring.

Maybe the Saint (and others) can post anything which does NOT have anything to do with sex under "General Info" for those who enjoy reading his journalistic escapades. :D

MRLA

01-08-03, 12:08

My 2 pesos worth,

If not for Saint, Jackson, eze,DownBA, and others I would not be coming to BA in February. The information is the best, and a little culture never hurt anyone, besides reading Saint's posts are enjoying, mo matter what he writes.

Saint, hope your in BA 1st week of Feb, sure want to hook up, thanks for everything.

Just my 2 pesos,

MRLA

Andres

01-08-03, 13:29

2 tips:

1) LARA OF ESCORTBAIRES: It is the same girl as Mariana of Platynum. I read in the Yahoo Spanish frum that the girl has an apartment located near the Abasto mall (close to Carlos Gardel subway station) and that she charges ar$100-ar$120 for 1 hour of complete service (that is, anal). Most reports were favourable.

2) CLOSED PLACES: I visited different boliches to confirm if they were open and found out that the boliches Lavalle St 951 and Fraga St 720 were closed (just in case that i menioned them before).

Hope this helps,

Andres

MiddleAgeGuy

01-08-03, 14:44

Fellow Readers,
I enjoy the Saints and other famouso writers side show escapades also. Like someone else said, scroll down if you get bored, just like the Platynum list!
For those going down to BA for the first time soon, take the time to read/skim past articles with a mind to your own priorities. I hope to get back myself in the next couple of months. For my 2 bits worth, I find it nice to ease into the BA night life with a little trip to the Newport in Recoleta, (12:00 to 12:30AM). I know it is considered by some a tourist trap but it is a no hassle way to get started with a drink or two after a meal, view the evening strollers in and out of the club. Out on the main street you can collect enough 'club' cards, listen to the hawkers, then pick and choose your way to the more serious mongering places.
Be sure to bring your list of internet choices as you no doubt have read you cannot count on any one person being available at your beck and call.
As confirmation on pricing for those waiting for the stock market to pick up, or those skimping by on the college plan, prices are ar100/hr avg, some as low as ar80 to ar200. I cannot imagine 1 hr being adequate so count on ar150-ar200 for a nice session and ar300 or so for the whole night. Now, for the college boys, multiply your ar150 1 timers or ar300 1 nighters by your expected number of experiences * 1.20 for tips, convert that on your calculator to $ by dviding by 3.25, and keep saving!
Regards,
Middleageguy

Dickhead

01-08-03, 18:21

Originally posted by EZE_amante
Dickhead,

Good post. Can you post the url for the site for the pocket rocket and flavored raincoats?

Dunno the URL for the PR but do a google search. That{s how I found it. About $30 incl shipping. I told Gabriela that if I see her again next week I will give her mine as a gift. The flavored raincoats I found in the USA at the SuperTarget. I think they are pretty common if you just look in the condom section most places. But if NOT, substitute warm honey and jam and use unlubricated condoms (hint, use lube inside the unlubricated condom prior to applying to your Johnson

Dickhead
EZE :)

Saint

01-08-03, 19:33

The sad reality is people that complain like the ¨Ralph Roberts¨ of WSG and the world are the ones that are always complaining and asking for more info but will NEVER EVER make it to Buenos Aires so I could care less what he or others have to say.

I'm a unique individual and I'm probably the luckiest bastard in the world to be able to do what I am doing and what I want to do. My life is a dream. I just put an offer on my third apartment this morning. I´ll find out tomorrow if I get it. It´s only a block from the other 2 apartments. Very comfortable.

For the ¨Ralph Roberts¨ of WSG here is some information for you. I met up with Jackson last night. We had a nice chat about one of our projects we are working on. Then we hit the clubs. We hit Affaire first and I didn´t see anyone I liked. I don´t really like this place. Then we hit Madaho´s. The talent was also lacking. I was surprised. Not really busy now. There were a few cuties. I ended up talking to this cutie that looked like a total pro at first.

I thought what the hell and started talking to her. She immediately warmed up. Just goes to show you to not be afraid to talk to these girls. Again, speaking some Spanish definitely helps. She informed us that drinks here are now 30 pesos per drink for chicas but now you only have 1 drink bar fine. COOL!!! That is less than before. Jackson thought it was still 2 drinks to leave so it was a nice surprise.

She asked for 200 pesos for one hour and I just laughed. I told her that wasn´t possible. I suggested 150 for 1 1-2 hours and she said ok. She LOVED the new apartment. She was very affectionate and let me take tons of pictures. Surprisingly she didn´t have any condoms with her. I told her not to worry and I had some. She wasn´t going to do a BBBJ at first and I politely asked for it. No problem. I did oral on her first as I usual do and she loved it. I think that helped with the BBBJ on me. It was amazing and I loved it.

After we finished I took more pictures. She had the prettiest green eyes and natural breasts. She gave me her real name and her home number and asked I call her. She is going to Mar Del Plata for vacation today for a week but I´ll probably still be here when she returns. I´d repeat with her and that is saying alot for me.

Called a radio taxi for her and out she went. I had to get up super early this morning for meetings so I´m dragging today. I might hit the clubs tonight although my amigovia (cross between amiga and novia) might want to do something.

Life is still good as always. Weather is very mild for January. I wish I dídn´t have to leave in 11 days. I´ve been out of the USA for so long but I don´t miss it at all. I feel like a citizen here and I will probably apply for dual citizenship in the next year or so. It felt nice today getting all my utility bills and seeing my name on all the bills with my BA address.

More later.

Saint

Member #1698

01-08-03, 19:50

re: Saint's Rio TR...

Hey saint, like many others on this board, I'm always interested in your "unique" "life is good" BA better living updates and chica escapades.

Unlike many others (La Larry et al), I am not especially anxious for your motted BA-Rio comparison but nonetheless was looking forward to your promised Brazil TR and experiences...particularly as I am scheduled to do a Rio/Sampa/Campinas plus BA/Mendoza/MDP/Bariloche/Chile trip in March.

As for BA apartments, my requirements are: quiet environment (no audible traffic noise), aircon, large jacuzzi in apt. and swimming pool in building...otherwise, I'll look to book a villa in palermo with aircon, jacuzzi and pool...any recon suggestions from you or Jackson would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. you last chica pickup sounds purrfect...any chance she wants to do a several days gig with a generous Canadian who has rudimentary but serviceable Spanish?

apstar

01-08-03, 20:24

Gentlemen,
For those of you that are able to take off from work at moments notice, United has a E-fare offer to Buenos Aires and Rio for about $500 for next week. Just thought somebody might want to know. I booked myself a quick 5 day trip to Rio for this week coming up after some serious manipulation of my schedule. Yipee, I can't wait...

Saint

01-08-03, 20:24

Hhomeboy,

Thanks for that nice post. I do have the Rio-BA comparison report. The problem is that I typed it on my friend´s laptop in Rio and he just arrived in USA today. He will email it to me and I´ll post it on WSG too.

Rio was amazing. Pure decadence. Rio is definitely a place you wanna hit. In fact, half the girls I see in BA are from Brazil. These girls know how to make love. I really mean it. There is defiitely more action in Rio. Sex, Sex, Sex. Everywhere. The termas are amazing. I didn´t know how I´d like them. The thought of a bunch of dudes sitting about in robes didn´t appeal to me but I loved it. The girls in the termas are hot hot hot. I was loving life there.

I saw about 3-4 girls every single day. It was hard not to because we would go to several termas every day and it was impossible to leave without seeing a girl. Termas are interesting because you pay a cover fee. Usually 50 R (exchange was 3.5 R to $1 US). 40 minute sessions were like 150 R and 1 hour sessions ere like 190 R. I almost always upgraded suites to one hour. Some days I did a double and my bills were up there. The cool thing is you can pay with your credit card so if you get miles for charging you´re getting miles to sleep with gorgeous girls.

The girls I saw were amazing. Some of them really seemed to like me. One asked me to get her pregnant!!! And even tried to save the condom and put it in her purse. I´m NOT joking. I loved Help Disco. There is no where in the world like it. A lot of the dudes I was with didn´t like it that much. It is crowded and believe it or not guys were getting shot down left and right. The hotties won´t just sleep with you if you wave money in their face. There are so many damn guys in there they can be selective and all the girls I saw even told me that.

The two girls I clicked with the most were European looking gorgeous girls. I saw them shoot guys down every single night. I had good luck there and you may or may not fair well here. There were probably at least 400 girls in there any given night. Out of 400 I could always spot at least 10 hottiest that I wanted to do. About one-third black, more than one-third mixed and a little less than one-third white. I´m picky but always pulled hotties out of there.

I´d never live in Rio but I´d sure visit it for vacation. I want to go back soon. Younger guys will probably do better in Rio. It definitely helps to speak Spanish or Portuguese. I studied Portuguese better but I was doing damn good communicating and one girl couldn´t believe it was my first trip there. Rio is like fishing in an aquarium. You see what you are getting and you just go for it.

Again, sometimes money has nothing to do with it. One night outside of Help we were eating. One of the guys I was with was a good looking dude but not in his 30´s, 40´s anymore. Maybe 50´s. Well, he liked this girl but she shot him down. She wouldn´t even give him her number but she gave it to one of my younger friends. Damn I´ve never seen anything like that.

BA is more sophisticated. Cleaner city. Not as much daytime action besides the internet girls. Rio is dirty, smells and the people are not as friendly. Portuguese is damn difficult. Once I become fluent in Spanish I will study Portuguese though. I could definitely handle living in BA and going to Rio on side trips.

Both are the big leagues. Since I have zero interest in Asian women these two places are the Major Leagues of hobbying. No one can compare any other place to these two cities. Bring your wallet though. You can easily drop tons of money in BA or Rio if you´re seeing countless girls a day like my friends and I were doing. You don´t want to even know how much I´ve spent since being out of the USA for 3 weeks. It is obscene.

Life is good.

Andres

01-08-03, 20:36

Bandy:

The phone numbers of Lara of Platynum are 15-5410-3915 and 4827-3083. The phone number of Lara of escortsbaires is 15-4169-2213. Thus, these phone numbers don't match.

I'm speaking secondhand, since I read about the match Lara-Mariana at groups.yahoo.com -> escorts59.

Andres

JamesBond69

01-08-03, 23:00

Originally posted by saint
Well, he liked this girl but she shot him down. She wouldn´t even give him her number but she gave it to one of my younger friends. Damn I´ve never seen anything like that.

That is strange. I never saw anything like that either in BA. Everyone - and I mean EVERYONE - is accepted by the chicas, no matter what you look like. It's only about money although later you may not great great service or GFE if the girl doesn't like the way you look.

These girls at HELP must be semi-pro, even daring amateurs.

Is this just at the Help disco's or do the terma girls also refuse service at times?

Octatron

01-09-03, 00:21

The Terma girls will fuck you if your sixty and weigh 300 pounds. She just may ask that she stay on top. LOL

JamesBond69

01-09-03, 01:59

Originally posted by octatron
The Terma girls will fuck you if your sixty and weigh 300 pounds. She just may ask that she stay on top. LOL

Good to hear, since I'm sixty and weight 300 lbs. 301 to be exact.

Now only if I can get the HELP girls to fuck me....well actually I don't have to worry, since I hobby at BA, not Rio, the city where no one is rejected.

Loco4Latinas

01-09-03, 02:16

Hello, all. I've been lurking for some time and just registered, so I can now contribute to the board.

I've been to Rio twice, and am headed down for this year's Carnaval in February, and I can vouch for Saint's praise for the Termas. I only visited one, Monte Carlo, and had a great session with a hot Latina who gave me a bbbj, then fucked my brains out. Well, actually, I visited another, I forget the name, but it's on the other side of the Lagoa, near a school, but was too burned out. However, the talent looked great.

I also hit Help, which, as he states, was a total zoo. Way too crowded, but fun, if you can stand the crush. A hot and innocent little mulatta picked me up minutes after entering. I bought her a drink and she kept rubbing her ass against my crotch the whole time we stood at the bar, then took me upstairs and told me she wanted me to take her back to my hotel and fuck her all night. $100. I agreed and we left.

Back at the hotel, she registered as she is required to do by law, then we went upstairs, took a shower together, and laid on the bed nude, chatting. Soon, we were fucking. After our energetic first fuck, she asked if she could leave. I said, no, you said all night. She said, okay, and we fucked again. Then we slept, fitfully, and fucked again the next morning. $100 may seem steep, but if you break it down over three fucks, it was well worth the money.

I also had great experiences in Recife and Fortaleza, both threesomes. I'll post those in the appropriate sections when time permits. Then there are the girls who aren't pros, but eager to meet a foreigner, and if you buy them dinner or give them some car fare, you'll be surprised at what you get. As I overheard one American say, all you got to do is feed 'em, and they'll do anything you want.

I was surprised to read Saint's comments on the fussiness of the Help girls. When I was there, they were extremely aggressive. One asked me to take her in while I was waiting outside to get in, another girl outside asked me to take her to my hotel and save the entrance fee, and after my mulatta picked me up, the girl who asked me to take her in plucked my sleeve and signaled to dump my girl and hook up with her. And I think they were coming on as strong to every other guy. Paradise.

I'll be happy to share any Brazil experience or knowledge I have in exchange for some info on the BA scene. After reading all these posts, I can't wait.

Does anyone know anything about the Design Suites, as advertised on the ARgentinago.com page? Looks nice and clean and reasonable. What's the word on bringing girls back?

I guess that's all for now. Hope this was of some worth.

Loco

apstar

01-09-03, 03:15

Saint,
I knew you'd like Rio. Termas, IMHO, are one of the greatest inventions in the world; every time I step into a terma I feel like I had just crashed Hugh Hefner's party at the Playboy mansion being surrounded with all these gorgeous women. Although I think women in BA in general are prettier than the ones in Rio, there is no denying that brasileras have beautiful bodies and they definitely take sex into an art form.
Judging from your taste in women, I am going to venture a guess that you probably spent sometime in termas such as 4x4, 65 and centaurus as these termas are known to have more blondes. Either way, sounds like you had a good time.
I had a hard time deciding whether to go to Rio or BA for my 5 day trip. In the end, I decided that since my trip encompass the weekend and the scene in BA is not that great over the weekend, I am better off going to Rio where there are a couple of termas open on Sunday to keep me entertained.

Andres

01-09-03, 05:53

Report, 11th issue

Wednesday night with Celeste of Bonnefemme

It's been a long week so full of daylight activities that I have arrived home very tired, aimless to do anything. Tonight, however, I decided not to skip the interesting action, but since I was pretty exhausted, I just gave a try to Bonnefemme.

I called them 12:30AM and asked for Celeste (she is the same as Candy of Sensualbaires, and both phone numbers belong to Bonnefemme). I was promised that she would arrive by 12:50, so I arrived at the apartment by 1AM (near Santa Fe Av and Ayacucho St). ar$ 100 for conventional service (1 hour) and ar$150 for complete service (75 minutes). In both cases, the bar service is free.

The place seems far from being a luxury brothel. Clean, properly furnished but not very above average. There are several rooms, and mine had a small bar, a bed and a TV, which worked poorly. Other rooms, although better, didn't look like a\ Las Vegas hotel suite.

The receptionist kept telling me that "Celeste is coming in 5 minutes". meanwhile, she presented me Agustina, Barby and another forgetable one. None of these were really gorgeous (Barby has nice boobs but flat ass, and looks older). When I was about to leave around 2AM, Celeste arrived.

She presented herself in 2 pieces and high heels. Overall, she is as the pictures: Nice and beautiful face, thick lips, big natural boobs but short (perhaps shorter than 5'0"). She behaved charmingly, kissing (but not DFK) and caring. Very soft body.

After rubbing her body against mine for several minutes (perhaps too many) she started with a CBJ (doesn't provide BBBJ, at least for the ar$100 price), then I did some "normal position" (how to call that in English?) and I finished in doggie style.

After that, she started a sentimental-phylosophical BS (sometimes is better not to understand Spanish...) and then provided me with a very good massage (or at least not very lousy).

At 3PM the door knocked, I dressed and came back home.

Not a repeat to me, but I recomend her for a good time.

Hope this helps,

Andres

El Ricardo

01-09-03, 12:29

I'm like a little mouse peeking its nose out of its protective surroundings. While I am relatively new to this chat room, I've been reading it for a few years, and been traveling to Argentina for three years now. In fact when I first began traveling to Argentina 1 peso = U$S1. Since I didn't stay in BA, but only passed through, I got into the habit of calling the Platynum girls from here and making arrangements for the following day when my plane arrived in BA. At that time, my Spanish was quite limited as well as my insight to for negotiating price, and I was normally paying around U$S200.00 for a short visit. How times have changed!

Today, when I travel to Argentina, I always, at the very least, spend a night in BA. I still work through the web for my contacts with the ladies, but get some help from Adriana at Platynum (I try to take her out to dinner when I can.) The last few trips, I experimented with TLN's, and took one of the ladies up to Iguazu Falls with me.

My first TLN was with Lolita, and was only a limited success. She's very young (22 yrs. and I'm 59), and was cautioned by Adriana that there were probably better choices for me (like Aixa...more later.) Lolita is a Peruvian, and she and her sister are in BA working for family back home. So it isn't surprising that she was pumping me for more money after we had reached an agreement of U$S250.00 for 24 hours. This one was certainly a sexual adventure!

Eventually, I made arrangements to take Aixa to Iguazu Falls with me (about 4 days, and I think U$S800.00) What an experience! It was much less of a sexual adventure, but nevertheless a much more memorable experience.

While I really love these escapades of mine, I have begun to fall in love with this country and these people. Having spent some time with them, and learning their language, I begin to understand their difficulties in that country, and why we are not very popular around the world these days (and its not from petty jealousy.) These impressions are formed from my contact not only with these ladies, but from my colleagues at work in Mendoza. These colleagues include people from most of South America, Europe and Asia.

My point in telling you all of this is that I continue to find ways to get myself down to Argentina to continue with my frolics, but find other ways of enjoying this country. What I was trying to do with my TLN and Iguazu experiments was to take along some enjoyable companionship to support my lust habit as well as enjoy the country and the culture. I've tried these travels alone, and I've tried them "...junto con una amiga." Junta es mejor!

I will travel to BA in February for 2 weeks of studying spanish in a language school. Weekends free to travel about the country (as well as evenings to try out some of the ideas I've learned from all of you of course!) I'm still trying to close on an apartment...Waiting to hear back from Francisca @ Alojargentina...tells me she has an apartment coming up in Puerto Madero...near the school. Otherwise, its going to be Recoleta (worse things could happen!)

So much for my rambling. I like hearing about everybody's adventures, but I also like sharing about the other ways we enjoy our lives while we're engaged in this lifestyle!

Hope to meet some of you out there soon!
ER

Fat Bastard

01-09-03, 16:41

DickHead,

Funny posting. Haven't laughed that hard since reading Nibu's postings.

FB

Exon123

01-09-03, 17:30

Saint --- I realize this is the Argentina board but thank you ever so much for your comments on Rio and I hope theres more comming --- Im sure that Brazil is a sexual smorgasbord so too speak but you can't beat the people and culture of Buenos Aires --- Not to mention the beauty of the city --- Thanks Again --- EXON

Saint

01-09-03, 17:54

Today (Thursday) is one of the warmer days so far. It still isn´t bad though. Not according to what all the locals are telling me January is usually.

Sorry for the Rio chat but many wanted a comparison. I just got emailed my 15 page Word report that I typed in Rio. I will post it later to the Rio section.

My Rio girl flies in tomorrow to Buenos Aires for 3 days. It will be cool. Small world. I am in an internet cafe and I ran into Jackson. We always have a good time BSíng about ¨home¨.
I spent the morning laying out on my roof by the pool with my normal chica. I am horny again so I´m gonna leave and call an internet girl after I leave. I´ll keep you posted how it goes......

Leo

01-09-03, 18:10

damn, you're a dickhead, and i'm rotf! most excellent post!

High on Hobbyin

01-09-03, 20:38

FYI
Pimsleur language courses have a $150 rebate available if you purchase a Comprehensive Level I course and an Instant Conversation course. They need not be the same language.

I've seen it advertised on several sites. The least expensive I've found $189 (CD) + $38 (CD) + Tx + S&H = $252 - $150 (mail in rebate) = $102 net cost. The Tapes would cost $77 net.

I've just ordered both the Brazilian Portugues and Spanish. Will advise if all arrives as ordered as I have never dealt with these folks before. I did call the 800 # for Simon & Schuster to inquire about the rebate and learned that Speak Any Language is one of their distributors. Speak Any Language can be found at http://store.yahoo.com/ronsrls/info.html

I'm gearin' up for one hell of a trip! Elricardo & MRLA, should have things firmed up by Monday!

Exon123

01-09-03, 21:17

Saint --- Excellent post on the Rio board regarding your trip --- Thanks --- Exon

Member #1698

01-09-03, 21:53

re: saint BA, late of RIO...

Whewffff...saint, your cariocas post was the longest I've ever read...it made me tired--but not because of it's length; rather, I became exhausted just imagining my ownself going at the pace you and KS put yourselves through.

Please remind me of your ama-list e-mail address as I'd like to send you a private message this weekend.

BTW, you're right on about the garotas wanting a baby from you after a one-night affectionate stand. I was always very careful about this when I lived and worked in that part of the world but a French former colleague of mine (since deceased MHRIP) who didn't care about what he spawned ended up boasting that he he knew of 8 different babies that were his in his mere 3 years of fooling around down Br way....and you only dipped into 1/3 of the talent pool--many of the mulatas I spent time with pestered me endlessly about persuading me to father a child (I'm 6 ft 4 and blue eyed, sandy haired)...the German/nordic mongers down there are often fought over by the duskier beauties in pursuit of stereotypical Aryan-featured sperm donors!

Congrats on the Portugese neo-fluency! I too found it distracting trying to learn Portugese while I was still a Spanish speaking novice...but once you plunge in so-to-speak, it's refreshing how your Spanish will aid you in acquiring an ear for spoken portugese.

In honour of your last post re: Rio, methinks Jackson should award you with a Saint's SA top posts special topic list!!!!

Don Johnson

01-09-03, 22:26

Hi guys,

I just found your excellent forum and thought I'd introduce myself allthough I have no juicy stories to offer :) Better than silently lurking around.

I am going to Buenos Aires for a month or so in March, after the Carneval in Salvador, so I will hopefully contribute to the forum in a couple of months. Are supposed to go backpacking in SA, but I guess that lifestyle will have to wait until I leave Buenos Aires :) I have little experience in this field (mongering, not sex :), but a month of hedonism in BA should make me a seasoned monger...

If I could, I have two questions I haven't found answers on (I have tried the forum search):

What does the VIP or executive level status on some of the girls on Platynum mean?

Secondly, I have a thing for great looking, mature women like Adriana and Maria Cristina on Platynum. *dribble dribble* Do anyone have any experience with those two, or could you recommend other mature women in their league?

Dickhead

01-09-03, 22:59

Day 3 (today). Spent a long time playing phone tag with Aixa while unable to contact Elani (I need a nurse pretty bad; see photos of Elani). Made a 6 PM appt finally but when I called her back she had car trouble and wanted me to call back in half an hour. When I did, she was ready but wanted me to come to her place because it was TOO HOT (Saint ...) or else come over later cuz it was TOO HOT. Said F that shit because I had just tried Viagra for the first time (don´t need it so far in my life but WTF, it was on the Saint´s mini tour) and did not want to waste it.

Earlier I had called Kiara and spoke to some gal who said well since you speak Spanish I will give you her other number. I had connected with Aixa before connecting with Kiara so I had not called her back (Kiara). So I called her a little before 7 and she said I was very close and she could come in fifteen minutes.

I guarantee you this is not Kiara from EscortsBAires, at least not the one in the pictures. But this is the beauty of being ridiculously unselective. Who gives a rat´s ass what their names are? The gal who presented herself was a monster, and I mean that positively. Maybe 5´9", 160 and not overweight. Big shoulders, big hips, big ass, big legs. Lifts weights. I like ´em like that (or short, or skinny, or four feet tall with no teeth and a flat head to rest your beer on). Call her the anti-Gabriela physically (I doubt Gabriela tops 100 lbs).

This gal was a really, really good fuck. DATY, really wet DFK, BBJ as foreplay (still haven´t tried to CIM but again, could be possible), every goddamn position, likes to get pounded. 68, 69, and 70. Dirty talk. Again she loved the G2 Pocket Rocket. Take the "American Express" approach to this invaluable tool: "Don´t leave home without it!" I like to shove my finger up their ass as I use the G2 to make sure they aren´t faking. I´d bet any money this gal would take it in the ass (not my thing) if that matters to you.

Here is the number: 15-4065-6133

I took 50 mg of the V, 25 mg first and then another 25 after I decided not to see Aixa but rather the alleged Kiara. I noticed absolutely no effect whatsoever. BTW, Aixa told me her name was really Cristina so who the fuck knows if that was the same girl either. Don´t know, don´t care. What I DO know is that my hotel room smells so much like snatch I had to get out of there. Also I literally gargled with Tullamore Dew and my mouth still tastes so much like pussy I could spit bouillabaise.

However, we had negotiated 1.5 hours for 150 pesos and she wanted to bail after the first shot, which took an hour anyways. I had told her (as I always do) that #2 was never a sure thing but that she had to try. She did not, so no tip, and so for that reason ONLY she is highly recommended with reservations. Not as light hearted and funny as Gabriela but nice overall and if you like a big curvy body to slam the hell out of, a good choice.

Now I am all amped up and I may hit some clubs tonight.

Guillermo

01-10-03, 02:27

Greetings Gentlemen,

Looks as if I'm clear to post on the board so I thought I'd introduce myself.

I stumbled onto the WSG a couple weeks ago. Looks as if I'm going to have some free time this summer for a vacation (miracle of miracles) and was looking for info on the best places to spend my time. In the past, I've always enjoyed Eastern Europe, but after having followed the antics in the BA board for the last couple of weeks (that Dickhead's a kick!), I'm thinking that maybe this is the place to try. Your enthusiasm for BA and its women is downright infectious.

You guys should be proud of yourselves. You've got quite a board here and all of the information is valuable and entertaining. Keep those cards and letters coming Saint, I'm on your side.

There's a huge body of information here that I've been sifting through. I'll try not to bore you with a lot of silly questions. There are a few questions I have that I haven't seen covered yet, so if you could help me out...

What's the dress code like in these BA clubs? I've spent some time in Eastern Europe and I know that the women there are always dressed to the 9's. They expect you to be as well. What do the BA women expect? Suit and tie, slacks and sweater, jeans and T-shirt? Does their opinion of you change based on what you wear? Would they rather go with the guy in the suit? Would they figure he's got more money to spend? How does it work?

Also, I've been reading some amazing stories about some pretty fantastic sessions with some even more fantastic women. Naturally, I'd like to be able to re-create some of those for myself when I'm there. Do the same girls tend to hang out in same clubs? If I read about a girl today, will I be likely to find her 6 months from now? Or is this like expecting lightning to strike twice in the same place?

I'm thinking of going down in June. That's the equivalent of our December. Is that a good time of the year for the chicas? Are there holidays, vacations I should know about? Will all the girls be in their places, hard at work, during that time? Or do they all leave town June 1st for some kind of national holiday?

My hope is that at some point, I'll be posting some of my own escapades down BA way.

Cheers!

xdude

01-10-03, 06:05

Is there any kind of festivities or celebration during the few days leading up to Ash Wednesday in BA (ie Rio Carnival period)? If there is one, is it like in Rio where hotel prices triple and everything becomes more expensive? Just curious because I might be heading down to BA during that period.

xdude

El Ricardo

01-10-03, 12:05

Dickhead,
Aixa (aka Betsy and Krystal on Platynum) is really Cristina. I spent several days with her last austral spring...she's a pretty classy lady. She's 33 years old.

I also noticed that you've shown some interest in a few of my favorites: Elani and I think it was Gema (in an earlier post) I think Elani is 27 yrs., seemed a little unsure of herself...but really tried hard to make it a good experience. Gema seemed to get into the action pretty well (ie enthusiastic and responsive!) I would recommend them. These two are both located at the Santa Fe 1126 address...seems to be a popular apartment as I've also visited Barbarella, Lorena and Lolita at this address.
ER

Dickhead

01-10-03, 14:13

Originally posted by elricardo
Dickhead,
"Aixa (aka Betsy and Krystal on Platynum) is really Cristina. I spent several days with her last austral spring...she's a pretty classy lady. She's 33 years old.

I also noticed that you've shown some interest in a few of my favorites: Elani and I think it was Gema (in an earlier post) I think Elani is 27 yrs., seemed a little unsure of herself...but really tried hard to make it a good experience." I am not going to call Aixa again but I have called Elani a couple of times already without connecting. She is currently number one on my TO DO list. It surprises me you say she seemed unsure of herself since she has a bunch of pretty kinky looking pictures. I am going to call her this afternoon again and tell her "I am not sick (well, we know I am very, very sick) but I need a nurse anyway (I have one of her Escorts BAires pics in a nurse's uni and another in some hot tight jeans) and see how that works out. DH

"Gema seemed to get into the action pretty well (ie enthusiastic and responsive!) I would recommend them. These two are both located at the Santa Fe 1126 address...seems to be a popular apartment as I've also visited Barbarella, Lorena and Lolita at this address."

I called Gema and the number was disconnected. I looked it up again yesterday in case I had the wrong one and I will call again. I really prefer that they come to my room, though. That way I am more in control. Thanks for the recommendations. Any others are appreciated. DH

Dickhead

01-10-03, 14:20

Day 4. I have a date for tonight with an amateur. She is staying at the hotel while her house is being remodeled. I chatted her up in the elevator yesterday and I saw her again at breakfast so I made my swoop. She is a native Portenya and speaks pretty good English, about as good as my castellano.

Thin, not much of a body, only about a 5 or 6 in the face. But what the hell, if nothing else maybe she can suggest some more things to do. I don´t find this city all that interesting touristically. The Modern Art museum was a complete joke. I bet they had to sell the better pieces because my guide book said they had Dali and some other recognizable names and they don´t have shit.

I know some people think nothing not directly related to pussy should be on here so I will keep this brief. It is very said seeing entire families picking through the garbage and bedding down in the doorways at night. The saddest thing I´ve seen was an older lady in her fifties, getting ready to bed down for the night in a doorway, applying her makeup with a little mirror by the street light. I was homeless twice in my younger days and I know that if you can do little things like that to maintain your dignity, it is easier to get out of your situation.

It would be great if the economy could improve down there without the currency strengthening too much. Meantime, it would be a kindness for people to head down here and inject some hard currency into the economy while injecting load after load of semen into the women down here.

JackDaniels

01-10-03, 14:37

I have been following this board for some time now and am really impressed with the high quality of the posts. I hope I can match up !

I am in Rio now, after spending a fabulous week in BA. Having spent the week going to Black, Affaire, Madaho, Shampoo and Playwoman, IMHO:

- Black is over-rated and has pretty average talent. Sure, there are a few (maybe 3 or 4) hotties but the rest are no different to any of the other clubs. As the club has a policy of the girls not approaching customers and leaving the ice breaking to the customer, the atmosphere feels less welcoming. Why do people go there ? Because the hotels recommend this club as the place to go (as mine did). This is the main reason why prices here are so high; it is not because the quality is better.

- Playwoman:In my view, this is the best and friendliest club. I took out a few chicas from there (I won't mention names). It is a cosier place and the prices are reasonable - 150 pesos should get you 90 minutes.....but the chicas have to get back to the club after this, so she won't linger around at your hotel. As I got to know the chicas, I always got a warm reception whenever I walked in.

- Affaire: Not a well laid out club though I did take out a lolita fromt here who was really good. She was the only gem there.

- Shampoo: deserted but some good dancers (who I understand are not available for take out).

- Madoho: Low quality place, though some chicas originally from Playwoman tried out this place but they have all gone back to Playwoman. I found the chicas unattractive and too up front...I do like a bit of conversation !

Saint

01-10-03, 15:26

Two things.

First of all thanks to all the guys about the nice comments on the Rio report. I enjoy helping other guys with information. Rio was a blast.

Secondly, I´ve been to Jackson´s apartment and he has been to mine. I would recommend you checking his place out if you´re in BA during his time frame. It´s a luxury building in a great location. Chicas love nice apartments. It beats the hell out of a hotel room any night of the week.

I have a feeling once more guys compare apartments to hotels the hotels are going to lose a lot of business. I´m sure Jackson is like me and his pad feels like his home now. I´d rather live in my apartment in Buenos Aires than my huge house in the USA.

I was walking to this internet cafe this morning and I passed the Alvear Palace. 3 American dudes walked out and I was ahead of them but I could hear them. It was funny because one dude was from my city in the USA where I live. He was telling his buddies, ¨man...I never have gotten laid like that in my city¨. They kept going on and on about the women here. They are right.

Buenos Aires is definitely a world class city. My Rio girl arrives in less than 2 hours. I saw a Platynum girl yesterday afternoon. Things are slower here now. Many girls are on vacation as well as normal citizens here. The city is deader than normal. I paid $150 pesos yesterday for 2 hours. Great session. I got pictures and am loving life as usual.

I hope to try to convince my Rio girl to get a two girl session with me. I´m feeling brave. Today is also warm but a good breeze. The exchange rate is 3.30 today. Also, a great local newspaper that is written in English here is called Buenos Aires Herald. It´s like 1.4 pesos and available in any newsstand. In the back there are some escort ads as well as an ad for Yaht tours with girls. If I have time next week I´ll try it and report back.

Chau. Saint

Andres

01-10-03, 16:14

Report - 12th issue

Wandering through the night and a happy end at Salomé.

I was released by 12:00AM of my social commitments and, being the last Thursday of my trip, I decided to gauge the classic spots to see the January quality.

First place to go was Hook. ar$12 the drink. There were 20-25 girls, none of them gorgeous, just a few new, unimpressive ones. perhaps Viviana and a brasilera were doable, but I preferred to visit other places.

Drove to Recoleta and walked in Sodoma. ar$15 the drink. Gees! Very few girls (perhaps less than 10), non of them an original Recoleta goddess who deserved my attention. Perhaps the place went slow because of the holidays, but I feel that Sodoma lost its previous charm and vibe.

Not far from Sodoma is Madaho's, so there I went. ar$20 the entrance (1 drink). I had never been there before, and it seemed very nice: Plenty of coaches to sit and talk with ladies, a big catwalk where some artists performed or some patrons and ladies danced. Out of the 30-40 girls (heard that as many more were on vacation), very few were truly gorgeous. I saw a blondie dress in white who may merited my attention, but I felt that she had a pro attitude in her face, so I skipped her. A couple of ladies approached me, but I declined their requests for drinks. I will visit Madaho's again in my next trip, perhaps in March or April.

Well... it was 2:30AM, and I was pretty tired but wanted some quiet, replenishing action. Took the car and cruised the streets of Recoleta. Many girls waiting for customers in the New Relax bar of Azcuenaga St and Pueyrredon Av, and a few SWs in the corner of Vicente Lopez St and Pueyrredon Av. Some were doable, but I didn't feel the buzz for them.

Suddenly, I remembered that, if places were that quiet, I may find my favorita at Salomé. So there I went.

After coming for the 5th time in 3 weeks, the doorman greeted me as an old brother. I went inside but Debora was on duty. While I waited for her, I spoke to several ladies who were getting really bored (no customers, no money). By 3:30AM, Debora arrived, gorgeous as always. For my pleasure, nobody was waiting for her, so I invited her a drink.

Debora is the only girl I did over 6 times. She has a curly, brunette hair, medium size lips, brown eyes, soft skin, medium size boobs, armonious and well shaped legs and a nice, soft butt. But it is her smile who disarms you. Nowhere else did I see a so charming pro. She is about 5'4".

We went to the hotel of Sanchez de Bustamante St. There, we started kising (not DFK but very sweet) while she took out my clothes and hers. Everything was performed very slowly and carefully, as if it were neuro surgery. After kissing and caring She provided an awesome BBBJ and then she rubbed her butt over me invitating to explore her deeply.

She moves like hell, either masterly faking the groanings or actually enjoying them. She invited for anal, but we didn't do it. After some doggie style, I finished in a sided position.

There was a long, inviting, cozy after-action chat. By 5:30, we took a shower together and came back to Salomé, although I left sher next to her car since she had enough for the night. She didn't ask for her tip during the session, so I gave her the ar$100 before geting off the car.

May repeat her next week, but not sure (never abuse of your favourite dish). For sure I will repeat her in my next visit.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Andres

01-10-03, 16:28

Beppe, xdude and Guillermo:

- VIP and "executive level" mean nothing. It is just an advertising cliché.

- No Ash Wednesday celebrations in Buenos Aires (at least not ones as important as in Brazil).

- Dress code is very casual, but keep neat and elegant while possible. Absolutely no needs for suit and tie. I think that the opinion of the girls may change with the number of drinks you take and the money you flash, but not with clothes.

- Don't expect the same girl to work in the same place 6 months down the road. Unless she is a gorgeous girl, she may not be incenctived to remain in the same place.

- June is business as usual. Cold and humid, but working time (Winter vacations start in July and last for 2 weeks).

Hope this helps,

Andres

El Ricardo

01-10-03, 18:10

Originally posted by Dickhead
I am not going to call Aixa again but I have called Elani a couple of times already without connecting. She is currently number one on my TO DO list. It surprises me you say she seemed unsure of herself since she has a bunch of pretty kinky looking pictures.

I saw Elani in June of '02 (U$S50.00/1.5 hrs) Her pictures are captivating aren't they!? I too was smitten by them, and intend to see her again on my trip in February. Could be that she was new to the business, or perhaps with me because there's an age difference. I will be interested to hear your assessment.

I am going to call her this afternoon again and tell her "I am not sick (well, we know I am very, very sick) but I need a nurse anyway (I have one of her Escorts BAires pics in a nurse's uni and another in some hot tight jeans) and see how that works out. DH

"Gema seemed to get into the action pretty well (ie enthusiastic and responsive!) I would recommend them. These two are both located at the Santa Fe 1126 address...seems to be a popular apartment as I've also visited Barbarella, Lorena and Lolita at this address."

I called Gema and the number was disconnected. I looked it up again yesterday in case I had the wrong one and I will call again.

Damn! Why don't you give Adriana a call and ask her what gives? I'd be interested in hearing about this as well. I could send her an e-mail and ask if that would be more convenient for you?

I really prefer that they come to my room, though. That way I am more in control.

I understand...looking forward to having an apartment in BA in February myself. It ought to be a whole lot more comfortable than the little rooms in Apart Recoleta (Hotel Crillon isn't too bad.)

Thanks for the recommendations. Any others are appreciated. DH

There are a couple of candidates I find quite attractive on Escortbaires: Sandy, Karina, and Fer (maybe too young for me ie younger than my daughter!) Any experiences with any of them?
ER

Dickhead

01-10-03, 19:46

7 PM appt w Elani. Took a whole Viagra at once this time. Dinner date at 9:30. Report to follow. Very very very hot.

Maddur

01-10-03, 21:46

Guilermo,
The weather is a little chilly in June (I was there last June) but highly enjoyable. You just need a sweater or light jacket in the evenings. Keep in mind the girls keep moving - what is hot today might be dead in six months. Also the same club will be dead on Monday but you might find a cutie there on Tuesday! Just read the old posts by masters like Jackson, Saint, Andres and DownBA. You have all the info you need.

El Ricardo

01-10-03, 22:32

Buen Suerte Dickhead!

Member #1698

01-11-03, 00:09

Reminder for saint:

(from earlier message) "Please remind me of your ama-list e-mail address as I'd like to send you a private message this weekend."

CityDude

01-11-03, 02:23

Last year, I enjoyed the excitement (early in the morning) @GIG, of France losing 0-1 to Senegal -- I was in the Post-Office when Senegal went up 1-0.

Next week I was in EZE and the locals were not even into reality :) Upshot, It was cold in EZE and many of the free-lancers, if they were not locals; had taken a break to go back home.

It was 27+ in GIG and about 6+ in EZE (in C)

A good source always is weatherbase.com

apstar

01-11-03, 02:25

elricardo,
I did not have any personal experience with either Sandy or Fer; however, I did set both Sandy and Fer up with my friend during my thanksgiving trip and they were both very nice on the phone and in person. As far as their performance 'en la cama', my friend had nothing but good things to say about both ladies. Fer was acutally at Jackson's Thankgiving party. She was a bit shy and warms up nicely and I enjoyed talking to her in my half-ass spanish. Sandy has been well posted on this BA board and I don't think you could go wrong with her.

Dickhead

01-11-03, 12:57

Day Four (yesterday): Strange Twists and Turns.

Elani arrived promptly. She is very nice looking but a lot smaller than I thought from the pics. An immediate issue is that she apparently chose to apply her perfume with a Wagner Power Painter. She wanted to talk money right away. I gave her a hundred and she said "mas." I pointed out that her ad said 100 per hour. She launched into some shit that I was not buying, then countered with 150 for an hour and a half "mas o menos." I said I only had an hour. Settled on 120.

As we begin the festivities another issue arises: bad breath. I offered her a Tic Tac. I should have made her brush her teeth. Too much teeth in the blow job but she did get pretty far down. DATY but she was only mildly interested. So may as well fuck. This was pretty good as she is very tight. But I am 5´ 7" with a 32 inch waist and she is too narrow even for me, meaning that even though she tried to spread her legs as far as possible, my hip bones were hitting her thighs. If you are a big dude I don´t think this gal will work.

Therefore flip side, two loads, stayed a bit over an hour so I gave her 100 pesos plus 10 dollars (not having the correct change). She was wheedling for me to gift her the PR, but no way Jose. Conclusion: not recommended. Maybe for some people. Nice looking, nice bod, but I didn´t really like her. Sorry, El Ric. I see what you mean, too, about her being a little unsure of herself. But, she was smart enough to make me put a condom on the Pocket Rocket, which had been many places recently (I do wash it, of course).

Anyhow I now have to shower severely to get the perfume off and the room smells like Eau du Putain and so does the bed. I am thinking this will be an issue if I can get my date back to the room. I am glad I never pull the covers back with these gals. I have about an hour to kill so I head out for a beer and a stroll.

Every night around this time, wind storms have been hitting and one hits just as I am heading back to my hotel. There is a cloudburst and I run for a doorway or an overhang or some such just at the same time as a woman runs for it from around the corner. I almost knocked her down (better than knocking her up I guess). She is quite attractive, appears to be about 40, working class woman from her hands and the way she is dressed. She asks me where I am from when she hears my Spanish as I apologize for bumping into her. We start to chat and all of a sudden a gust of wind comes along and blows her dress up, and I mean WAY up. No decent gentleman would remark on such a circumstance but remember who we are dealing with. I say hey those are some nice undies (kinda bloomer-looking things); where did you get them? She replies oh thanks, they´re Italian.

I am thinking I have ten minutes to get her phone number before I have to go back to the hotel and fix up the room (like get rid of the used rubbers in the trash can, make sure there are none lying on the floor, hide the vibrator, blah blah). I am trying to decide between Witty and Charming and Sweet but Vulnerable when she asks me if I want to get a cup of coffee. Now I´m thinking maybe she is a hooker but she damn sure isn´t dressed like one: no makeup, simple little dress. I say well I have an appointment soon. She asks when and I say 10 o´clock. She says well, we have time. Problem is 10 o´clock just popped out and my date is really at 9:30 and it is already a few minutes after nine.

At this point, I don´t know whether to audible at the line of scrimmage, call for a time out, or take the air out of the ball and try to run out the clock. I take her to Tasca Tanca tapas bar on Paraguay a block and a half west of Florida. The bartender greets me like an old friend (I was there a few days earlier and we had a good chat); this impresses her (Marta). She excuses herself and I say to the bartender look bud I have a problem; I need to use the phone and I need a phone book. He doesn´t have a phone book and I don´t know the number of the hotel. Plus, I don´t know my date´s last name or room number, only what floor she is staying on, and now I am supposed to meet her in the hotel bar in like five minutes.

What to do? This woman is being very friendly and is better looking than my date (Lorena). I don´t want to spend seven more nights in the same hotel as a pissed off, stood up Latina who might dump coffee in my lap at breakfast, and also even though I am a Dickhead I am famously prompt and good about appointments. Finally I am able to get the number from information and I ask to speak to the bellhop, who speaks excellent English, having lived in Sydney, Oz.

I say look man I have a problem. You know that Portenya on the sixth floor who is staying LT? He says yeah yeah. I said, well, I have a date with her and there was a bus accident on the way back from La Boca and the cops won´t let us leave yet. I need you to go to her room and explain, and I´ll give you 20 pesos. Fact, if you can grab one of those flower sellers and take her a rose or something, I´ll give you 20 Euros. He says OK. I figure it´ll be better if he can catch her before she goes to the bar because that way it won´t look like she got stood up in public.

So Marta and I commence to have wine and tapas and she is quite interesting and is rubbing my thigh, but I can´t quite figure out if she´s on the program or if I´m irresistably attractive. Looking in the mirror, I am leaning strongly towards the former but it just doesn´t fit. Finally I quit worrying about it because I realize: IT DOESN´T MATTER! If she´s a hooker it´ll eventually come up and if she´s not I damn sure need to keep my mouth shut.

So we wine and dine and chat. She says she used to work for Siemens and I am thinking she is really going to have to work for semen if she wants it from me tonight. That brings up another issue because she suggests coffee afterwards and I know for sure that she wants either sex or money or both, and I know for sure that I am all fucked out. So after coffee she says so what do you want to do and I say well I want to go back to my hotel. She says alone? and I say no with you baby. She smiles and says let´s go.

So now my mouth has written a check that my ass isn´t going to be able to cover but I figure I can still get my tongue hard and there´s always the Pocket Rocket. We are walking to the hotel and she says is there a problem with a woman coming to your room and I of course say I have no idea. She looks at me like yeah right, I am NOT buying that at all. So I say well OK yeah I guess I do know and no there is no problem. So now I am leaning more towards hooker.

We get to the room and I say look I am kind of worn out so I should probably take one of these, pulling the Viagra out of my bag. She says what is that and I say Viagra and she grabs it out of my hand and says no no no Viagra and yanks my pants down and starts sucking my dick. Well that rotten little bastard rises on command and she says see no Viagra.

So anyway she turns out to be 46 and has a decent body for a 46 year old but we all know what that means but so what. We keep going at it and going at and she wants to know why I can´t finish I am like well I am tired and she is like don´t give me that bullshit and I say well OK I have been getting fucked to death on this trip and I just ain´t got that much jam (all this stuff sounds much better in Spanish). She says well you are hard so you should be able to finish so what do you need. So I say well maybe if you do X, Y, and Z followed by my favorite position then maybe. So she does X, Y, Z, Q and some other shit I haven´t seen in a while and yup. In the middle of all this she asks me if I like anal sex and I say oh hell no, do you? and she says oh no (so you were just taking a fucking survey, or what?)

So we are done and I am assuming she wants to spend the night but she says no because her 12 year old son, whom she has been trying call all night, is still not home and it is 2:30 AM. I am still not sure if I am going to get a request for money. Earlier we had discussed going to Colonia together for a day but I was kind of hoping she had forgotten. Well, she HASN´T forgotten and for sure wants to go and I like her and think it will be fun. Then she says but the problem is I can´t afford to pay the babysitter.

So if I give her 40 pesos for the babysitter does that make her a hooker? I am pondering this when I again realize: IT DOESN´T MATTER. Would I pay for the babysitter if she wasn´t a hooker? Yes. Would I pay 40 pesos to fuck her? Yes. So what I tried to do was say well, do I have to give it to you now or can I give it to you tomorrow when we go to get the tickets? She says well if I arrange for the sitter she will have to come over before I meet you since the boat leaves early in the morning and I want to spend the night with you. So I give her 40 pesos plus 5 for the cab home and she is supposed to call me tonight at 5 PM. She gave me her full name and ID number which are needed to make the ferry reservations. I looked at her passport and it matched and she didn´t lie about her age either.

So if she calls at 5 o´clock, then I fucked an amateur on the first date. If she doesn´t I paid 45 pesos plus some jack shit amount for dinner and had some pleasant company and a monster fuck with deep throat BBJ and DFK.

I have to say that I thought some of the stuff posted in this section had to be bullshit and I hesitated to post my experience with the street girls for fear it would seem like bullshit but after last night I believe every single fucking thing I have ever heard about this town.

I am so burned out I am smoldering so if there are any other mongers down there, please bring a vacuum pump, a large hydraulic jack, and a small crane to room 807 at the Dazzler so maybe I can get it up again.

Starfe

01-11-03, 14:02

dickhead,

that was a must read story. i really enjoyed it.

possible "movie of the week"

well done,

starfe

Guillermo

01-11-03, 14:40

Thanks dickhead,

You made my day.

I think this is more of a mini-series. I can't wait for the next episode. "Dickhead in Colonia". Is Marta really a pro?

Guillermo

Andres

01-11-03, 16:29

Report, 13th issue

SWs sightseeing and Flores.

While running some errands, I had some time by 6PM to drive through old SWs areas. I saw dozens of SWs in Constitucion, between Garay Av, Salta St, Constitucion St and Entre Rios Av. most of them looked like shot, fatty and dark skinned. I bet they were Dominicans.

In Once, I saw another 8-10 at Alsina St between 24 de Novembre St and Pasco St. Better quality, but nothing standing out of the pack.

I also visited a poor area called Nueva Pompeya (Saenz Av and Perito Moreno Av) because I read in the Yahoo forum that there was a cheap sauna at A. Einstein St between Traful St and Ventana St. Arriving to this place was worth the Camel Trophy: Passing through poor neighborhoods, avoiding trafic lights for security reasons, paying attention to the broken asphalt, which resembles the Moon surface (you can easily break the car suspension by driving there) and praying not to be robbed or kidnapped.

The place, called Bunker Video Bar, had a single red light in the front. Didn't dare to park and take a look. The sorrounding streets seem to be very dark at night and somewhat dangerous, full of parked trucks (Nueva Pompeya is a neighborhood full of depots and transportation companies) and run down Ford Falcons. I leave the challenge of reporting the place to you, guys (I doubt a cab would like to drive you there).

At night, I left home by 1:00AM and did some additional SW sightseeing at Estados Unidos St between Entre Rios Av and Santiago del Estero St. 6 or 7 girls (or TVs?) not very well looking. One chubby girl dressed in black, who seemed nice, told me that she was charging ar$40 for 1 hour including full and unlimited service, plus ar$10 of the hotel. After 3 seconds she counteroffered ar$30, before I said a word (!). Anyway, I passed.

Took Independencia Av and headed towards Flores. There, I saw another 6 girls (or girl wannabies) at the area sorrounded by Bacacay St, Nazca Av, Bogotá St and F. Cayetano Rodriguez St.

By that time, I decided not to take SW action partly because of the low quality and partly because I needed a toilet, so I went to Top Secret (Artigas St and Juan B Justo Av). Driving on Artigas St, I saw 6-8 SWs in the vicinity of Artigas St and F Vallese St. It seems that SWs pop up like mushroms on Friday nights...

I arrived at Top Secret, left the car to valet parking (something I don't like to do when mongering) and entered the building. ar$20 the entrance, including 1 drink. Unfortunately, Top Secret remained as bad as when I visited it in July 2002: few girls (less than 10) of average quality (5-6s), which were too expensive for the prices asked by the house (ar$80 for 20 minutes, ar$100 for 30 minutes and ar$140 for 1 hour). Even though prices used to be much higher (ar$30 the entrance and ar$180 the hour when the 1:1 Peso-Dollar parity), the quality decreased substatially.

By then, it was 2:45AM, no time for visiting another neighborhood, so I stuck to the known La Nuit. As usual, ar$7 the entrance, 1 drink included. There were 20-25 girls, most of them the same as during the holidays, and a few average new ones. I saw Judith, the girl I reported on the 5th issue. She really looks great, with firm body and nice boobs. ar$50 for 30 minutes, and everything covered.

She was nice: Performed an average CBJ and then we did some doggie style (she put the extra mile, although didn't receive any tip). After that, we chated while she massaged me. Not bad, although she started teasing me by speaking in Guaraní (the traditional language of Paraguayans), a language I don't master. Anyway, nice experience for a quickie.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Dickhead

01-11-03, 17:17

Originally posted by Guillermo
Thanks dickhead,

You made my day.

I think this is more of a mini-series. I can't wait for the next episode. "Dickhead in Colonia". Is Marta really a pro?

Guillermo

Best guess at this point is semi pro. I mean, she has a job in a woodworking or wood restoration factory or something. That´s why we have to go on Sunday; she said she could miss Monday because it wasn´t an important day at work but Tuesday is when they get deliveries and pay invoices. She has rough hands. But it don´t matter and I just checked into the ferry to Uruguay and it is only 100 pesos each so I think I will take her regardless. She is a nice woman.

BTW, Mariano the bellhop was able to deliver some flowers to Lorena and he said she didn´t seem too upset, but he said he wouldn´t give me her room number (this is good, I think) so I just gave him a handwritten letter of apology and a little mini box of Godiva chocolates to make sure I don´t get my Jones burnt off at breakfast.

El Ricardo

01-11-03, 17:55

DH,
Thanks for the update on Elani. I'd forgotten about the breath! I saw Lorena (escortbaires) in April. Is this the same one? 90 pesos/1.5 horas) I'm sorry that I don't remember details about her other than she is one my repeat list.

apstar,

Thanks for the information on Sandy and Fer. I will explore this territory, but it will be new territory only to me!

What about Andreita in Platynum...any experiences there?

And once again about costs...I struggle with insulting these girls by bargaining too hard and then winding up with a less than satisfactory experience. But I don't want to be stupid about it either. I find for the Platynum/Escortbaires ladies I'm paying around 50 to 100 U$S for the 1.5 hour experience (yes I know...I just said 90 pesos for Lorena!); 150 to 300 U$S for the TLN. Are the girls from the night clubs just a better rate because they aren't paying for the advertising? In the past, I've been bargaining from the US by the telephone before I depart, so that puts me at a disadvantage I think. Any thoughts or suggestions?
thanks
ER

Don Johnson

01-11-03, 17:57

Andres, thanks for getting the VIP thing straight. I know you guys get a lot of questions from newbies like myself, so thanks a lot for taking the time to aswer my question.

Dickhead, you lucky bastard :) I would sell my mother for a peso for an experience like that. Nicely handled with the bellhop!

Most of you guys are on another level than me when it comes to expences. I can't afford Etoile, Art/Design suites etc, since I plan to stay at least a month - perhaps longer - in BA and my money has to last for at least a year. I am on my mini-"trip round the world" - covering 6-7 countries in SA, Australia and a few countries in SE Asia, so I can't go totally crazy.

I am thinking I would rather use my money on the hobbing, rather than on hotels, and I have got an great offer from hotel Callao - only US$25 for a double (and a few bucks less for a long term stay). It is not in Recoleta, but I am thinking I can take a lot of taxies before I am at Recoleta hotel prices. I don't know if hotel Callao is girl friendly either, but to me it seems like a good offer.

Is my theory wrong? I can allways move to your favorite hotels/suites/apartments for shorter stays for some serious mongering, but I can't live there the whole time. Or should I try to find a shitty apartment in Recoleta (considering my budget)?

Any advice on where to stay would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for the bad English and spelling BTW, I live in Scandinavia :)

Guillermo

01-11-03, 18:27

Originally posted by elricardo

I find for the Platynum/Escortbaires ladies I'm paying around 50 to 100 U$S for the 1.5 hour experience (yes I know...I just said 90 pesos for Lorena!); [/i]As I reckon it, that's between 170 and 330 pesos. I've been looking through all the past info on the board and I came upon Jackson's admonition to us all that the standard rate for touristos is 150 pesos with a max of 200. That was several months ago.

So I'm wondering, do you choose to pay the girls a premium over the norm, or has the basic price structure changed since Jackson's post?

Just trying to figure it all out.

Also, I'm wondering, if we hire Roxana to make our appointments for us, will she negotiate price with the chicas? Or is it strictly where and when do me meet?

Guillermo

JamesBond69

01-11-03, 18:29

Originally posted by elricardo
Are the girls from the night clubs just a better rate because they aren't paying for the advertising? In the past, I've been bargaining from the US by the telephone before I depart, so that puts me at a disadvantage I think. Any thoughts or suggestions?
thanks
ER

The girls from the clubs are about the same price as the internet girls although you can get real bargains from the Clarin classifieds - as low as 40 - even 30! pesos a visit but you don't have photos to go on, so it's a gamble, unless you have recommdations. And with Clarin girls you really must know Spanish.

Note that the club girl fees include a drinks entry cost and bar fine to take the out, so this can cost you an additional 50 to 120 pesos, an expense you don't have with the internet girls.

Also internet girls are available during the day, while most club action doesn't really start until 11:30 - 11pm at the very earliest.
Cutty Sark is the exception, as it gets going as early as 8pm. And also there is Orleans Cafe during the day but the chicas are a bit old for my taste.

staticicon

01-11-03, 20:10

Originally posted by BA_ROBERT
If anyone is wondering who Flavia Miller is, just go to a Google or Yahoo and write Flavia Miller and you will get a pretty good idea what she looks like.

BA_ROBERT

Hey BA_Robert,

Hope you are doing well!!

Find below a website with all models and argentine vedettes.

http://www.enterate.com.ar

If anyone is interested in Adriana Chaumont you may find her working at Blacks in Recoleta...

staticicon

01-11-03, 20:32

Originally posted by dancesw/chicas
Leo

Very good report amigo! Like you, I also combine both mongering and non-pro scene. Of the places you mentioned, Ribera del Este (this place was great and used to go off!) is closed I been told and so El Divino in Puerto Madero.

Asia de Cuba is a place where I have never been lucky. I guess people go there in groups and I myself look like any other Argentine guy. Perhaps if girls would know that I come from the US w/ $ to burn things will be different, but again there is good side to it.

Buenos Aires News is still good, but is too loud to start a conversation with anyone.

Some places that I think are good are La Diosa and Pacha both in costanera. I also heard good things out of "Follia" in Canitas. Some chicas say is their place to party so I think in here you can approach the girls with your charms and if that's not enough we just told them about our Uncle Sam. Just kidding!!......:-)

Regarding meeting girls during the day, Florida is good but Santa Fe is even better I think. From 9 de Julio all the way up to Alto Palermo mall is just blocks and blocks of fine girlfriend material.

Sometimes when I'm talking to one girl another one passes by that is just as fine. Too much Gazelas for one lion!!

So Leo, was BA as hot in January as people say? I read about being unbearable.

Later, dancesw/chicas

Hi Dance,

FOLLIA it is not located in Las Cañitas, it is in Nuñez (way North, after Belgrano).

You have to head through Av. Del Libertador until Club Ciudad de BA and then to the right.

In FOLLIA, PACHA and Asia de Cuba on Saturdays you may find girls from the Recoleta Clubs. Personally, I always met girls from Blacks.

staticicon

01-11-03, 20:49

Originally posted by hefe
With the prices this good in Ba, is there any good golf out there. I need some break to reload after a night of mongering. I will be there on 1/18/03 - 1/27/03.

thanks

HEFE,

Check the Argentine Golf Asociation website:

http://www.aag.com.ar

Click on CLUBES.

The best ones are located in the Province of Buenos Aires.
In Capital Federal I recommend you the Golf Club of Lagos de Palermo.

lotsafun

01-11-03, 22:56

Originally posted by Dickhead

"Gema seemed to get into the action pretty well (ie enthusiastic and responsive!) I would recommend them. These two are both located at the Santa Fe 1126 address...seems to be a popular apartment as I've also visited Barbarella, Lorena and Lolita at this address."

I called Gema and the number was disconnected. I looked it up again yesterday in case I had the wrong one and I will call again.

Keep calling, maybe she's just in Mar Del Plata for a few days. The same thing happened to me (disconnect message) when i was in BA. Only I kept calling and she answered after she got back from MDP.

LAGNAF

JackDaniels

01-12-03, 10:38

Here is my two cents on the BA v Rio comparison.

The chicas in BA are just so much more GFE oriented than their peers in Rio. This does make it a bit more special. What Rio does offer though is a bigger variety with mulattas and blondes in larger numbers. However I noticed that the Rio girls and also Brazilians working in BA are a lot more business like in their approach. OK, I am not kidding myself - providers are doing this for money wherever they are in the world. I am just highlighting the difference in approach and in this respect BA wins over Rio.

In looks, I prefer BA as I think it has a higher percentage of gems than Rio - but this is subjective - everyone has their particular taste.

Slurpee

01-12-03, 14:44

I'm new, thanks for all the info!! This is an excellent forum.

Dickhead, your post about your twists and turns was amazing!! You kept me on the edge of my seat!!

Ezy, do you still have that list you created? Or does anyone have that? I'd like to get that. Ezy, I emailed you my request but I think you didnt get it?

El Ricardo

01-12-03, 17:33

Okay...as long as we're into philosophy this afternoon, I'll run this one by you:

One of my amigas in Argentina (she's one of my spanish tutors and not a girlfriend) tells me: "I'm an Argentine woman...I do as I'm told." When we were constructing a building in Mendoza, we had cifficulty getting the construction contractors and Argentine managers to understand that they needed a women's bathroom...the reason: women don't do the kind of work that will be conducted in this building (never mind that they do so in the rest of the world.) Conclusion: Argentina is a male dominated, chauvinistic culture. These girls we encounter have that thinking ingrained into their brains.

On the other hand, my Brazillian friends, who work on the same project with me in argentina tell me that in Brazil marriages often end in divorce and that the thinking in the culture is that these are only temporary or transitional states. People grow and change and what they need or want in life changes to. So when one of the individuals outgrows the relationship they move on to the next phase of their lives. Conclusion: the Brazilian women are accustomed to living independently.
Any thoughts on this?
ER

Andres

01-12-03, 17:54

Elricardo:

I don't see any difference between Argentine and Brazilian women. In both places you will find women who look for the father figure and women who want to be independent and prioritize their careers over their marriages.

Argentina and Brazil have both male-dominated societies, although not much more than any other country (they are not as male oriented as some Asian countries).

Andres

JackDaniels

01-12-03, 19:56

ER and Andres:

Good points. I am a relative newcomer to South America with just 2 visits so I can only comment with my limited experience. I have however travelled to various parts of the globe and I find these cultural differences to be very interesting especially in relation to the hobby. I have hobbied in Russia (St Petersburg), Thailand and Cambodia too.

Personally, I have no problems with the girls being independent - I think it is a good thing. I treat the girls with respect and don't play hardball with them on bargaining the fee down. I form an opinion (based on this board and personal experience) on what the fair price is and I am happy to pay it.

Generally this approach has worked well (respect + fair payment + easy going attitude) and I generally get GFE. Funnily enough, GFE and BBBJ seem to go hand in hand ! Any thoughts ?

Another point: The backdrop of BA is so much better - it is a much more "romantic" city than Rio. The latter appears to have a rougher edge to it though I did have a good time there too but in the terma rather than in Help.

Saint

01-12-03, 21:25

My Rio girl left today. I took her to the airport and we said our goodbyes. I had an awesome weekend with her. Man I´m loving life right now. Simply no better time in my life. I met up with SFHombre after I got back from airport. We met at Cafe Orleans. As always, I didn´t see anything remotely close to anything I´d pay for. We had some lunch and talked about life, chicas and chicas. I like this guy. Really good dude that has a good perspective on life.

He is trying to talk me into flying to Rio with him on Wednesday. He even offered to pay for part of my airline ticket which was not necessary as I am probably the weakest guy in the world when it comes to meeting hotties in S. America. It is not going to be cheap getting a ticket at last minute but I´ll probably still do it.

We are meeting with a friend at 10 PM then hitting the clubs. I am in the mood for a hottie blonde tonight so I hope I find what I´m looking for.

More later.

LA Larry

01-12-03, 21:35

RE: BA vs. Rio

I've never been to Rio, so this is more of a theory than a proven fact but--

The economy was once much more similar (when the currency was 1:1) in BA and as a result most of the girls tricking now are used to a more middle class lifestyle.

Rio is a hare's breat away from being a full-blown Third World country. It seems that most of the girls their have never been middle class, have grown up in households earning a 200 dollars per month.

Therefore--

Isn't it theorectically for a monger to find a much more grateful girl in Brazil than in Buenos Aires?

That is to say, buying a chica dinner in BA probably doesn't go as long a way as it does in Brazil...

Skyjuice

01-12-03, 21:39

Hey Saint,

Great Post on your first Rio Trip..I was lucky to come across it. I had to print it out since I couldnt read it on my computer screen at work. (WOW..15 pages). You also mentioned in your journal quite a few times about a certain club you belong to but you didn't state the name of it..You just kept typing in "Club******"...I guess for privacy reasons..Is it the club that you post up your adventure pics on?..Can you send me the link to the club or is it exclusive only?..if you can send it, please forward it to my e-mail because I rarely check anything on here. tia.

Trying to get to Rio for Carnival.

Skyjuice@mail.com

CityDude

01-12-03, 23:06

LA Larry: Rio is a hare's breat away from being a full-blown Third World country.

Brazil's economy is much larger than that of Argentina. It's complexities are different than those of Federal system in Argentina.

saint: It is not going to be cheap getting a ticket at last minute but I´ll probably still do it.

Do Argentinian and Brazilian airlines micro-inventory-control seats on a daily basis ? i.e. I was under the impression that the variability of fare between APeX and walk-up was not that large.

On the matters of chicas Vs Garotas
In EZE, I've found most of the chicas have a fairly decent amount of education, some even have a day job while free-lancing in the evenings or weekends. In GIG, I found most terma girls to be middle-school dropouts - Pretty much lost beyond the basics. YMMV

JamesBond69

01-12-03, 23:50

Originally posted by citydude
LA Larry: Rio is a hare's breat away from being a full-blown Third World country.

On the matters of chicas Vs Garotas
In EZE, I've found most of the chicas have a fairly decent amount of education, some even have a day job while free-lancing in the evenings or weekends. In GIG, I found most terma girls to be middle-school dropouts - Pretty much lost beyond the basics. YMMV [/i]

We can post forever to try to figure the BA/Rio difference but....

I think you have a good handle on the difference between BA and Rio.

There are some cultural differences between the women in the two societies but I think the essense is in the economic differences.

Rio is really a third world country. As in most third world countries it has a huge infrastructure of prostition, with all kinds of bars and termas that have been operating as long as Disneyland has been around.

Prostitution in BA has of course always been around for ever but not nearly as developed, as there was less need of it as an income source for women to get out of their situation.

Historically Argentina had the seventh largest economy in the world at the turn of the century and flourished up until the 1950's, without the legacy of slavery to contend with and a strong tradition of literacy.

BA has a huge middle class that is now dispossed because of the devaluation.The chicas in BA can relate mentally/emotionally to the gringos and don't regard them as much as the foreign "other" like in Rio; hence a more GFE in BA and more BBBJ and full service in Rio, as that's seems to be generally an act of service more than pleasure for the provider.

In Rio you have more of a clear service relationship between first world and third world, with a great deal of abject desperation. For example I can't imagine in BA a woman wanting to have a child with a one time client but this happens in Rio or Thailand....I think that's an indication of the different types of women working in the sex industry in both countries.

Does this make sense?

BA_Robert

01-13-03, 00:28

Hi Staticion,

Yes, Iam doing fine. Hope you are too. I would be doing even better if I were in BA. Will probably come back in March.

Adriana Chaumont is working in Blacks? Only dancing right!

BA_ROBERT

Slurpee

01-13-03, 03:12

Rio and BA

I think James Bond has it very clear, and I agree with him. I think that in Rio there is a larger percentage of purely poor ppl which are the girls we all see. Whereas in BA, these girls are usually the ones who have just fallen off the middle class.
Your point about education is also very true. The argentinian culture has the highest literacy in S. America, and it shows in anyone you meet.

just some thoughts...

Andres

01-13-03, 05:59

Report, 14th issue

Hooks on Sunday night

By midnight, I tried to locate Ariadna of Gemidos, without luck. I also calle the private apartments of Laprida St 947 and Montevideo St 581, without luck either. At Montevideo, they had told me that they charge ar$20 for 30 minutes and ar$3 for 1 hour. I may visit tomorrow to see the quality.

Having no luck at the phone, I took the car and drove through Recoleta, especially Azcuenaga St and Pueyredon Av. I saw 10-12 SWs, none of them doable but much better than Constitucion and Once SWs, certainly.

Since I wanted to do Viviana of Hooks, I drove there. A few minutes after I arrived, Saint and UWPhoto (I think was him) entered the place. I greeted them and chatted for a while, perhaps 20 minutes. They left the place with good companion and I remained there.

Viviana was there but a girl whom I chatted with previusly approached me and tried hard to convince me. Her name is Daiana (or Diana in English, although she is from Corrientes province), petite (perhaps 5'0"), small chests, nice figure and nice face. She promised to do whatever I wanted for ar$100, while caressing and rubbing her body against mine. She finally convinced me and out we went. ar$30 the total tab (mine and the girl's drink).

We went to the Plus hotel (Independencia Av and Virrey Ceballos St), which charged ar$27 for a basic room, very well furnished. There, we took a shower together, where she started a BBBJ. After the shower, I was getting horny but accepted an offer for massages (acceptable massage). After licking my whole body, she provided an awesome BBBJ, although she begged me not to cum on her.

After a while, she put a condom and we started doggie. She moaned very loud, moving like hell and make me cum very fast. I laid on the bed and she provided a second massage session. We continued chatting until 3AM, when we dressed again and came back to the bar.

Good experience. She seems to be new on this, what makes her more charming.

On the way back home, I saw some girls at Exedra bar (Cordoba Av and Carlos Pellegrini St) waiting for customers. They seemed not bad for a Sunday night.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Andres

01-14-03, 12:35

Report, 15th issue

Ariadna of Gemidos and cruising with fellow mongers.

During the day, I tried to find out more about the Laprida 947 and Montevideo 581 apartments, but no answer in the former and just 2 girls in the latter.

Also, I went shopping nd found out that the taylored suits and shirts take a week to be done.

By 9PM, I wanted to try Ariadna of Gemidos, since she looked nice in the pictures. The madam set a price by phone of ar$100 for 1 hour, full of shots and complete service.

The place, located at Ayacucho St and MT Alvear St, was a lousy apartment building. Ariadna greeted me. She was as delivered in the pictures, but she dressed as if she were going for grocery, not very seductive.

From the start, she behaved very charmingly and inviting. While doing FDK, she started to undress slowly and bringing me to the bed.

There, she kissed all over my body and performed a too quick but good BBBJ. Then, I did her doggie style. After the action, we kept chatting and caressing each other. Unlike other girls who do this for need and feel guilty, she acknowledged that she didn't like it, but she tried to make me feel good.

After some massages, I was running late to meet fellow mongers, so I came back home and called Saint to meet in Recoleta.

Saint, UWphoto and myself met at the entrance of Madaho's. From there, I showed the guys several neghborhoods and the action there (both SWs and boliches). We went to Constitucion and Flores, and entered La Nuit. ar$7 per person, 1 drink included. There were only 10 girls there, and the nicest ones were absent or on duty. The guys found the quality subpar respect to Recoleta, so we went to Estilo Nuevo Boliche (as usual, ar$15 the entrance, 1 drink included).

Estilo Nuevo had an interesting atmosphere: 10-15 girls, some of them very hot, and a few guys watching the streap tease show. After the show, many guys left and the place became somewhat slower than before. We decided to come back to Recoleta to try Madaho's, but I called it a night after leaving the guys back at Madaho's door.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Dickhead

01-14-03, 13:59

[QUOTE]Originally posted by elricardo
[i]DH,
Thanks for the update on Elani. I'd forgotten about the breath! I saw Lorena (escortbaires) in April. Is this the same one?

No, no, no, Lorena is not a pro, just some woman I was hitting on in my hotel.

Dickhead

01-14-03, 14:00

Originally posted by lotsafun
Keep calling, maybe she's just in Mar Del Plata for a few days. The same thing happened to me (disconnect message) when i was in BA. Only I kept calling and she answered after she got back from MDP.

LAGNAF

Yes, Elani told me she was away somewhere for a while, and that is why I got the ¨disconnected¨message.

Dickhead

01-14-03, 14:43

Day Whatever: Dickhead Tries to Do Colonia But Ends Up in Cordoba Province.

Tried to take Marta to Colonia for the day but her passport is expired and they would not let her go with just her cedula. I was very tempted to go into full Dickhead mode and say sorry baby here´s cab fare; I´m getting on the boat. But as I said I like her and I try to reserve full Dickhead mode for special occasions. So I said fuck it, let´s go to Jorge Newbery and see where we can fly. We ended up flying to Cordoba and renting a car (note to self and others: never, ever again!!! Why the fuck do they even have lane markings and traffic signals in this country? Save a life; teach an Argentinian to drive. Nuff said about that).

We drove through the province, stopping in a few fairly touristy towns (weekending Portenyos, not gringos) and ending up in a cute town called Falda. This is Sunday night and there is a huge street fair with clowns and rides and blah blah blah. I asked some guy, hey, what´s the occasion? He looked at me blankly. Occasion? Quite a fun town and we had a blast. The next day we spent some time looking at cathedrals and such in Cordoba. The driving made me very, very uptight and when we tried to get back to the airport we kept getting lost and I was getting a little pissed at Marta because there was no way I could drive and navigate at the same time and she could not navigate despite having a clear map, written directions, and so forth. But it´s not really her fault cuz there´s NO fucking street signs and one street just meanders into another and the streets change names and it´s just fucking jacked.

I kept shoving load after load after load into her but at some point it appeared that a tacit agreement had been made that if I wasn´t going to give her any Greek she was not going to give me any French. Too bad so sad cuz that hole is an exit and not an entrance and only my finger and the PR are going up there. Her asshole is all loose too which proves my point that ass fucking is bad for you.

Anyway she is just about full at this point. My conclusion is that she is definitely not a hooker but is just broke and looking for some fun. If she WERE a hooker I would have spent a LOT LESS money as flights and rental cars on short notice are very expensive, plus they charge gringos more for the flights.

Some interesting cultural things came up. Her description of what is going on at her job reminds me of the old joke about communism: ¨We pretend to work and the government pretends to pay us.¨ I guess the place is so broke that maybe she gets paid or maybe not and sometimes her boss just gives her materials to sew clothes with. She is quite a seamstress. She only owns one pair of shoes and one of them has a broken heel and she kept slipping on the sidewalk. Well, OK, she owns two pairs now because I bought her a black pair and also some bombachas (panties) and feminine type stuff. Prices for clothes are ridiculously low here and I bought a dressy outfit for myself to wear in Uruguay (which she expertly altered in my hotel room). She had a ten peso note in her wallet and some coins and she said that was all she had in the world. She said that when her employer started to go broke, she lost all the dry cleaning she had in hock and her watch that was out for repairs when she could not pay to pick them up in time. Could be bullshit I guess but I don´t know why she would bother with that when I really had no problem paying for everything on the trip. The way I was raised, if I invite a woman somewhere I pay unless she offers otherwise. I am not getting any sick water buffalo stories but she has alluded to the fact that if she had enough money to buy an industrial sewing machine she could maybe "improve her situation."

Some other things: She says anal sex is very popular here. She is quite disappointed that I won´t do it. She says teenagers do it for birth control. She haggles like hell with all the merchants and cabbies and tells the cabbies exactly what routes to take. She showed me all about how to spot fake money and today I changed money with a street vendor and I just told him which bills I would take and which bills I wouldn´t take.

She is very affectionate as far as always wanting to walk hand in hand or arm in arm and turning to give me little kisses. She only knows about ten words of English and this is the longest time I have gone without being able to speak any English at all. It´s good for me but a bit frustrating.

She did not know what Chapstick was and was fascinated by dental floss. She is missing quite a few molars, I noticed, perhaps because she puts about five sugars in her coffee and three more in her OJ. She has eaten about five pounds of chocolate so far (exaggeration). Her table manners are quite good but she does not say please and thank you at all, which I also noticed with Lorena when I was having breakfast. It´s not pass the sugar please and thank you but give me the sugar. She is amazed when I do things like open her car door or pull her chair out from the table. Also when we were in the airport she wanted to carry her bag and my bag too (which I most definitely did not allow). She says Argentinian men are rude as hell and that I am "muy bien educado" which does not mean well-educated but rather well-mannered. That´s pretty funny since I thought I was a Dickhead.

These Argentinian women are very messy. Throw the condom wrapper on the floor, throw the condom on the floor, throw the towel on the floor. All the Platynum girls were like that and so is Marta. The concept of a bath mat fascinated her and she showers with the curtain open and floods the floor.

Anyway, I will bang her some more tonight if I can find the jam, and go to Colonia tomorrow by myself. I can tell I am going to have a lot of trouble getting rid of her. Maybe I will call a Platynum girl over for a blow job and let her catch us together and see what happens. I saw a bitching dog fight in La Boca the other day and I wouldn´t mind seeing a nice Latina cat fight as well.

Pussy, pussy, pussy.

badboy77777

01-14-03, 16:04

I tried again to call Zoe on Platynum, but the number seems disconnected. Can anyone help, I think she is really hot, and would love to have some fun with her.

Oh by the way Great post dickhead, you are living every man's dream!!!

If anyone has any info please email me at badboy0514@yahoo.com

thanks a bunch,
badboy

Slurpee

01-14-03, 16:46

Holy loaddroppers Dickhead! You are awesome. I'd say quite an inspiration. I sometimes say to myself, how do you get away with this stuff, and the answer is always: cuz your a dickhead.

So anyone seen EZE? I'm still looking for that list he created.

I speak spanish but I dont know all the proper, non-offensive terminology for positions and such. I've tried looking around this forum, but I've been unsuccessfull. It will tell me all the abbreviations, but I'm looking for the way to say GREEK in spanish (for wanting anal sex, for example). Thanks

Saint

01-14-03, 16:59

Hey amigos. Just finished with a session with a hottie. She was at this incall place that SFHombre brought me to. It was cool. There was a madam that answered the door. About 7-8 girls strolled in and introduced themselves and gave a kiss. You made selection at the end.

100 pesos per hour. I didn't want to see them there so I inquired about taking the girl to my apartment. The madam said no extra charge except to pay taxi fare both ways..NO problem.

SFHombre asked about pictures and she said no. This was another reason to bring home. PICTURES. This girl was also on Platynum.com but has her face blocked out. She asked me not to post so I won't. Maybe if ****** blocked her face out but that isn't too useful. I probably will not send too many more pictures in. You guys get the idea of what is available here. This girl was pretty and sweet.

I'm meeting Moondog for dinner tomorrow night like last month and we bring dates. This girl is gonna be my date. She loved the apartment like the other girls. She even inquired when I was coming back to BA and asked if any chance of a relationship. I know you guys might find this hard to believe sometimes but it's the God's honest truth. If you're nice with these girls and they are attracted to you....you're soooo in.

Life is good.

I'm going out with Andres and SFHombre tonight for some action in the suburbs outside of BA. Wish me luck.

Saint

01-14-03, 17:07

I just got done with a hot session from a girl from Black's. A stunner. Expect to pay more at Black's but definitely hotter girls than the other clubs no matter what anyone says in my humble opinion.

I went out with SFHombre and Andres tonight. Andres showed us all these places that the average tourist wouldn't go to. It was good to get another perspective but I can honestly say that most guys would not be interested in the off the beaten track places. I'd much rather pay more and score with a hottie. Some of the places we went were seedy and probably dangerous. Luckily Andres knows the areas well and he had a car. Andres is a really good guy that is very intelligent and easy going. Anyone would do well to hook up with him if he happens to be in Buenos Aires.

I've been lucky to hook up with SFHombre. We've been hanging out alot and he is a good guy. We talked alot at dinner and we agree on alot of things. He is living it up like me and having fun.

We went all over but the town is dead for the most part. Nuevo Estilo was dead, Madahos didn't have any good talent. SFHombre went home empty handed but I decided to go to Black's on my own. The usual 20 peso entrance fee that covered the first drink. I payed 250 pesos for a short-term session of 1.5 hours but I'm drained after another good day. She wanted something like $150 US but I just laughed and told her I lived here. Once she figured out I wasn't a newbie she immediately eased up. It was very late around 3 AM and there wern't too many guys in there. There were several stunners in there. It wasn't as good as other nights but awesome compared to the other clubs.

Now a lot of people are on vacation and January is slow here. Rio will be good. There is still plenty of action here. Get this....SFHombre (not UWPhoto...Andres posted UWPhoto but it was SFHombre) and I were at dinner in Puerto Madero at a nice 5 star restaurant when my cutie from earlier that day calls me. She tells me that she had a model girlfriend that wanted to escort SFHombre to dinner tomorrow. We laughed. Only in South America would you have hotties calling you offering their hottie girlfriends...ha, ha. I know I get special treatment sometimes from the girls I meet here. I'm younger which seems to really make a difference compared to others sometimes. I also am able to communicate with them which keeps them anxious to call my all the time. I don't mind.

I'm excited to go back to Rio. I could get used to just going back and forth from BA to Rio. I'm meeting up with Moondog and SFHombre tonight with dates. I'm feeling frisky so I'm gonna order up some internet action now while I'm waiting and see if she wants to lay out by the pool afterwards.

Damn I'm a lucky dawg.

Guillermo

01-14-03, 18:20

Originally posted by Dickhead
Some other things: She says anal sex is very popular here. She is quite disappointed that I won´t do it. She says teenagers do it for birth control.

The things you learn while careening down the back roads of Argentina. . .

Thanks, DH, I find these little travelogues you're giving us immensely instructional, as well as entertaining.

I still want to hear about Colonia. It's a trip I want to make when I'm down there. I'm surprised to hear that you're going by yourself. My understanding is that it's just a sleepy little tourist town and there's not much happening there. So it's strictly BYOC (bring your own chica).

Guillermo

Bokki

01-14-03, 18:47

Hola amigos. Let me report on my recent research of advertisements in the Clarin Clasificados section. The average quality is not as high as with internet escorts so you will have to turn a few stones to find a hidden jewel but eventually your efforts will pay off. For all of you mongers here are two apartments with women who provide great condomless blow-jobs. After careful deliberation, I have opted not to mention the names of the women I chose at these places. See them all, give 'em a peck on the cheek, then pick your favourite; all of them should provide BBBJ/CIM.

1) Private apartment with 2-3 girls. Tel. 4952-3214.
Address: Pasteur 556, 1er piso (1.5 blocks from subte/metro Pasteur).
Details: Daily 24h. 20 pesos for half-hour; 30P the hour.
XYZ is tall and has the face of a model. Excellent BBBJ and beso negro (very tickly!).

2) Private apartment with 4 girls. Tel. 4371-7591.
Address: Juan D. Peron 1509, Appt 4E (between Montevideo and Parana).
Details: Mon-Fri, 9am-9pm. Half an hour 40P, hour 60P. Add 20P for complete service (=BBBJ/CIM).
I tried pretty XYZ who gave superb BBBJ with CIM. I loved fondling her big breasts too.

Both gals have nice personalities and just love to suck. I spoke only Spanish, probably little English is spoken.

On the other hand, here are a couple of addresses of places where I did not find any chick to my liking because they were oldish, uglish or fattish:
- Hypolito Yrigoyen 1315, appt 9A
- Av. Rivadavia 916, 1 piso
- Av. Corrientes 1965, appt 13B
- Lavalle 1768, appt 43
(I tried others too but forget the details.)

Have fun.

P.S. Dickhead's reports are just hilarious!

ezy

01-14-03, 20:37

Dickhead's posts are a hoot!......

Saint's posts are like a kid at Disneyworld for the first time!...

Andresg offers the perspective of an Argentino and adds insights that are most useful to we culturally illiterate gringos....

Other posts are starting to show up about places off the beaten path, such as Las Canitas..........

In short, I think the board is really starting to mature by offering varied perspectives and experiences........

good job!!!

Saint

01-14-03, 22:27

I just had a chance to read Dickhead's posts. They are a riot. Too bad I didn't get a chance to meet him. His posts go to show you ANYTHING can happen in BA. Sometimes my friends tell me if they didn't know me personally they wouldn't believe half the things that happen to me.

Life is good.

Dickhead

01-14-03, 23:54

Originally posted by slurpee
Holy loaddroppers Dickhead! You are awesome. I'd say quite an inspiration. I sometimes say to myself, how do you get away with this stuff, and the answer is always: cuz your a dickhead.

So anyone seen EZE? I'm still looking for that list he created.

I speak spanish but I dont know all the proper, non-offensive terminology for positions and such. I've tried looking around this forum, but I've been unsuccessfull. It will tell me all the abbreviations, but I'm looking for the way to say GREEK in spanish (for wanting anal sex, for example).

Thanks

Anal sex is "sexo por culo" (you fucking pervert :) ) and you could also use "estilo greco" (Greek style). Or to be a bit more suave you could try: "Quieres hacer amor en la cola?" Doggie style is "a la perrito." As far as different postions go, this is not Mexico or Vegas where they want more money for different or multiple positions, at least from what I've seen. If they bend that way, just flip them that way.

DH

Dickhead

01-14-03, 23:58

Originally posted by Guillermo
The things you learn while careening down the back roads of Argentina. . .

Thanks, DH, I find these little travelogues you're giving us immensely instructional, as well as entertaining.

I still want to hear about Colonia. It's a trip I want to make when I'm down there. I'm surprised to hear that you're going by yourself. My understanding is that it's just a sleepy little tourist town and there's not much happening there. So it's strictly BYOC (bring your own chica).

Guillermo

I am going there tomorrow just for the day; not going to spend the night like I was going to with Marta. Not expecting any action and I plan to get pretty drunk tonight so if it is just a lazy sleepy town I will drink beer all day and then call someone to suck my dick when I get back at 11 PM. Just another stamp in the passport. Report to follow.

Dickhead

01-15-03, 00:13

OK, I just saw Marta for the last time (probably) and am going back to paying for it because it is cheaper. Now I am in an internet cafe at Paraguay and Suipacha and I have to be careful because the clerk speaks good English and can probably read it too and is sitting next to me. She is doable. She saved the pen that I forgot when I was here like four days ago. Can you believe that?

I am all fucked out and dying from the humidity. I love walking the streets in Latin America. I just spent an hour hanging out on the corner of Uruguay and Paraguay, can't get much more South American than that, talking with some insane drunk fucker in an Hawaiian shirt who lived in Hawaii for a long time but is Portenyo and speaks really fucked up English. We drank some whiskey. I haven't been drinking much here because I am trying to see how much I can fuck. He likes Cutty Sark and J & B clubs because he is into drinking scotch. He says his wife is Hawaaian/Polynesian and doesn't care if he goes to hookers as long as he wears a rubber. He says that a good program is to take the last or next to last Subte (subway) of the night and see who's on it. He says he will ride from the next to last stop to the last stop and then get off and back on and see who does the same thing = hooker.

You have to be just a little bit careful because a lot of the younger women here dress like they could be hookers but of course only like 85% of them really are.

I just saw street walker Monica far from her usual location (far = four or five blocks) and so I said so how was it and she said, good, it was a local guy and he came really fast. I told her if I saw her again tonight I would give her 50 pesos to suck my dick this time because she is so good at it. I think maybe she is not 45 but more like 38 and was just a bit more tired the first time I saw her. She is really pretty cute if she could just get that cigarette out of her mouth. I check out on Friday so maybe Thursday I will take her up to my room. Check her out near Paraguay and 9 de Julio: blonde, 5'3", light skin, friendly.

I gotta put in another plug for the Dazzler. All the desk clerks (well, some are men) are cute and the breakfast buffet gals are cute and I have been bringing a different gal in every day. If you are with them it is no problem and if not they just call your room and say so and so is here; do you want to come down or her to come up? It is not overrun with gringos and they are great about sending an iron or more towels up to your room, etc.

Guillermo

01-15-03, 02:20

Originally posted by Dickhead
I gotta put in another plug for the Dazzler. All the desk clerks (well, some are men) are cute and the breakfast buffet gals are cute and I have been bringing a different gal in every day. If you are with them it is no problem and if not they just call your room and say so and so is here; do you want to come down or her to come up? It is not overrun with gringos and they are great about sending an iron or more towels up to your room, etc. DH, maybe you can clear something up for me. I've been looking at the map and the guidebook and the only hotel I can find listed at the corner of Paraguay and Libertad is the Bisonte. Are the Bisonte and the Dazzler one and the same? Or are they two different hotels, next to each other?

Guillermo

tedwest

01-15-03, 03:00

I want to thank everyone who posts for educating a soon to be first timer in BA. I have done the Costa Rica thing but apparently BA is even better. One thing that would be fun for me is to hook up with some of the guys when I am there in about 2 weeks. I am a physician from the US and don't know what I can b ring to the table--let me know how I can reciprocate. Thanks in advace
Tedwest

Saint

01-15-03, 13:02

Holy crap. I've been busy. Went with SFHombre last night and Moondog to dinner at a very nice restaurant in Puerto Madero. My girl looked like a million bucks. Moondog's girl and SFHombre's girls were very pretty too. We had a great time. I really enjoy spending time with good guys. It was good to see Moondog again and of course it's been great hanging out with SFHombre. True friends.

I pre-negotiated 300 pesos for spending several hours at dinner and a little private time afterwards. A good deal for both parties. My girl really really likes me. She kept going on and on about how she never has an interest in dating guys she meets through work. She asked if I'd have an interest in seeing her as her boyfriend and of course not paying but she said I couldn't sleep with anyone else. Hmmm.... I doubt I can do that. You all know me. I told her "let's see".

Anyway, after a marathon love making session I asked if she had email. She was extremely pc illiterate. I made a Yahoo email for her and showed her how to use it. Man, she was amazed. Meanwhile she wanted me to send her pictures we just took on my digital camera. Oops. She saw a folder with all these photos of girls that I have been seeing on my PC. Holy crap. I'm talking like 50 girls. She was pissed!!!! At first anyway. I told her that I met all of them before I met her. She couldn't really argue with that explanation.

She kept making out the whole time I was showing her how to check email. Again, I'm one lucky bastard. She kept going on and on about how she has the chance to date anyone. She knows tons of rich guys and she has no interest in dating a client. She of course could be bullshitting but I've dated enough working girls to know the BS'ers from the honest ones but I don't like to get involved in these type of relationships.

Of course I'm sure many of you find some of what I post hard to believe but it's the honest truth. Guys like Moondog can tell you how the chicas act at dinner. Ha, ha.

While checking email I saw that a business contact here set up a 9 AM meeting!!! Yikes...it was already like 4 AM. I told the girl she had to go soon. She made me promise to call her when I get back on Saturday. I probably will...maybe not. She was leaving without asking for any money but I gave her 400 pesos. More than we agreed upon. A true sweetheart.

I fly to Rio in less than 2 hours.

Don Johnson

01-15-03, 14:07

Dickhead, thanks for great reports and for taking the time to answer us newbies. Keep on like that, and you will loose your nick name :)

I took your advice on Dazzler hotel, but it seems the $25 offer was only a special promotion offer that ends in February (I am going there second week of March).

I did get an offer from Dazzler, but my English is so shitty I don't really know what it means.

They wrote : We could make an upgrade of USD 25 + tax if you're woshing to stay with us for at least 20 days (consecutives) ." (sic)

An upgrade? Can any of you native English speaking mongers tell me if that means that I can get a room for $25 + tax, or should it be read as an additional $25 per day (total $50 per night)?

Dickhead

01-15-03, 14:18

Originally posted by Guillermo
DH, maybe you can clear something up for me. I've been looking at the map and the guidebook and the only hotel I can find listed at the corner of Paraguay and Libertad is the Bisonte. Are the Bisonte and the Dazzler one and the same? Or are they two different hotels, next to each other?

Guillermo

The Dazzler used to be called the Bisonte and is the only hotel on that corner (one corner is a nice park with huge trees that you can climb if you like). Look it up on Travelocity.

Dickhead

01-15-03, 15:39

STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This post will be rather long and will contain material deemed to be useful but not directly related to pussy. Anyone who has a problem with that can kiss my Irish ass.

DAY EIGHT (yesterday): Irish Eyes Are Smiling

As indicated last night, I sipped my way east on Paraguay, pausing frequently in doorways to leer blatantly at passing women. Reaching the Florida mall, I was approached by a little bit of a thing handing out cards for some tittie bar. I explained to her that I had just finished having sex, was empty, and wanted to drink for a while. She recommended strongly that I have a drink in the aforementioned titty bar but I explained that I liked to drink in the street because I am not allowed to do that where I live. She asked why not and I said it is illegal and she got an extremely puzzled look on her face and asked por que is it illegal to drink a beer in the street. I said I can't explain why, I don't know why, I have no idea why, and there are too many fucking rules in my country.

Again she urged me to have a free look in this bar and and I said that I did not like to look and only liked to fuck. She said no problema we have rooms and I looked at her again. Tiny, cute as a button (what the fuck does that mean anyway? What is cute about a button?), nice little outfit, nice smile (a few crooked teeth). Blatantly and perhaps rudely but in decent Spanish with a nice smile, I asked how 'bout YOU? Her smile got even bigger and she said 70 pesos (maybe she said 75) or 25 US (that is about 80 pesos; the exchange rate I got yesterday was 3.28). I said I did not think I had enough seed ("semilla") right now and was going to drink for a while and excused myself.

Her schtick is she carries a flower, lets you smell it, and then tells you she smells just like it. I started walking away. I got about five paces and the flower went right to my dick. I decided at that point that if she was still there went I got back I was going to fuck her.

I switched from sip mode and began to guzzle my way south on Florida. At Cordoba there is a large tratorria on the SW corner that had a number of hookers on the patio who were of quite acceptable quality. Proceeding south to Corrientes, I was approached by a male tout for some other titty bar. I told him that I did not see the point of sitting in a smoky bar buying expensive drinks when the streets were completely full of pussy and beers were one peso and twenty. He agreed this was a bit ridiculous on the face of it and suggested a friend of his who was currently available, within blocks, tall, beautiful, blah blah blah. i said no, I had already made up mind who I was going to fuck tonight but that I might be interested in fucking his friend the next day when I got back from Uruguay.

He urged me strongly to make an appointment but I said no. He accepted this and we began to talk. I immediately said that he was not Portenyo and he said no, Cordobese. I said that I had been there the previous day and launched into an exaggerated version of the accent there that busted him up completely. At this point a have been speaking exclusively Spanish for many days and the poetry of the language is beginning to fall effortlessly from my pussy soaked lips.

Politics and economics came up quickly. He said he was a highly skilled auto mechanic who could not find a job and that if something wasn't done soon about jobs there would be problems. He said the government always did the wrong thing in times of economic crisis. He said the same thing during the Great Depression. I said yeah they reelected Yrigoyen in 1928 and he was already noticeably senile. He looked at me in amazement and said how do you know that and I said I have a degree in history. He said Yrigoyen made all the wrong moves economically and I said yeah, he cut the government payroll and threw a whole bunch of people out of work. He said how do you know that and I said I have a degree in economics.

Well actually I have a history degree with a minor in ecoomics but this was just some shit I read in a guide book. My point is that if you take the trouble to learn a little bit about the countries you visit it is much appreciated and you have more fun and meet more people. In any case he gave me this girl's number: Graciela 43285175. He says he she only sleeps with tourists. I told him I didn't give a rat's ass if she fucked the entire Bolivian navy. He laughed and said Bolivia is a land locked country; they don't have a navy. I said oh yes they DO have a navy and it is a complete joke and they have a few boats that patrol Lake Titicaca. He said how do you know that and I said been there seen it. We chatted a bit more and he said his girl would give me a special price since I had some cultural understanding. I said great but tomorrow because I want to fuck this girl down on the corner of Paraguay. He said how do you know she will still be there and I said I don't but I have a back up plan. He said what is that and I said there is a street girl named Monica that I had before who could suck the paint off a fender. He laughed and I left.

I stopped at the trattoria for one last beer and a piss. Two hookers at a patio table waved and smiled but I walked inside. Ordered a beer (a bit pricey at 4 pesos or approximately $1.25) and one of the hookers came inside and sat down. Por que you don't sit with us? Cuz it's too hot and I want to be in the air conditioning. Would you like to fuck me? Do you smoke? Yes. Forget it. But I won't smoke when I am with you. Forget it anyway cuz your hair will smell like smoke. But I will take a shower. Forget it. How much do you want to pay? I might pay 50 pesos. OK let's go. Nah I want to fuck this girl on Paraguy. You don't like me? I like you fine but my dick has already decided and he is in charge right now. Hah hah hah. OK see you later munyequita and feel free to finish my beer.

Approaching Paraguay I see that she is still there. She sees me coming from half a block away (not too tough with me red hair and all of that) and is smiling hugely. I approach, we chat, and I say you said 25 dollars, right? She looks a bit hurt and puzzled and says you want to pay less than that? I said oh no hell no I am just confirming. We chat a bit and I show her where I am from on a map that was for sale at a newsstand. I showed her some of the places I had been and she asked me if I learned Spanish in school and I said no, aprendi mi castellano en la calle, la escuela de la vida (I learned my Spanish in the street, the school of life). That is bullshit as I did learn the majority of my Spanish in school although not chupada and chocha and por la boca. But so what.

So we hop in a cab which costs all of fifty cents and she asks if there is a problem bringing girls into my hotel and I said no. She asks if I am sure and I said very sure because I made sure to pay for a double room (true). I also said that when I checked in I gave the clerk thirty pesos and told him now you are blind then I gave him twenty more pesos and said now you are deaf. Utter bullshit but funny and I like to keep my hookers amused. Dickhead not only has a sweet sweet dick and a pile driving ass but substantial entertainment value as well.

Then on the way I tell her look you asked for 70 pesos but I am going to give you 100 and I have everything we need and you can shower and it is nice and cool and blah blah blah. So we get up there and shower and I offer her a fresh toothbrush which she declines and a Tic Tac which she accepts. She asks for a coke and I hand her one and say I am going to have a beer. She decides a beer is an excellent idea and hands me back the coke.

She asks what I want and I say French and then chocha and she says you don't want anal and I say no and she says oh good. So she starts with the BBJ. This girl is what I would call a knob topper. It was very nice but I ask her if she can get down a little further. Keep in mind this girl is tiny (un metro cinquenta she said which translates to about 4 foot ten). She got down pretty far although it was not deep throat. Purely for research purposes I asked if it would be a problem if I went ahead and finished in her mouth and she said no, but I knew I wanted that little bitty chocha.

And yes I went down on her and to the poster on the Costa Rica board who said why would you kiss a hooker's pussy when that is where the last guy's disease ridden smegma encrusted dick has been, I say I follow a simple rule that my brother gave me }when I was 14 and he was 26: if it smells good, eat it. Works for me, end of story.

She was a great tight fuck. I kind of knew I would not be able to finish and I had told her that but I could tell she wanted me to and I did not want to hurt her feelings so I faked an orgasm. That is probably the only good thing about condoms. It seemed like a gentlemanly thing to do. Another thing my brother told me that is worth remembering is to always treat a hooker like a lady and to always treat a lady like a hooker.

So we chat and she says what do you think about Argentinian women and I say I think they are easy as hell. She asks me if I think they are easier than Brazilian women and I say I don't know. Then she says she has heard that American women are not as sexy as Latin women and I said that is like saying that soccer is somewhat popular. We begin to discuss why this might be. I launched into an elaborate routine about what happens on the first date and the second date and the third date before maybe you get to fuck them on about the fifth date. She mentions that in many cases Argentinean women want to go to bed on the first date. I say that this is really quite preferable from my point of view and add some observations about how American women can't cook either and that a lot of them could not fuck their way out of a laundry bag.

I said I didn't think a lot of American women cared if they satisfied their man or not and here is where an important point came up. She said that Argentinean women know that if they don't satisfy their man he will just go straight to the boliche, and that if they don't want to satisfy him the neighbor does. This I feel is crucial. I said a lot of my married friends say their wives turn them down more often than not. She said when she is with a guy she never turns him down and if her pussy is sore and her mouth is tired she will jack him off. I said when I am in a relationship and she turns me down I lie next to her, jack off, and wipe it all over her. She thought this was an excellent idea.

No whining for tips, politely requested a gift of the half bottles of shampoo and lotion (gave her several little unopened bottles of each from my bag of tricks and told her a gentleman does not give used gifts), and requested cab fare only the grounds of not having change (I gave her a 100 peso note).

Name: Karen
Location: South side of Florida esquina de Paraguay
Description: Tiny and cute with long, long light brown hair with some added highlights. Tight little cola. Itty bitty titties that she says she hopes to have enlarged soon, which I strongly advised against, politely recommending a dentist as a better value. Easily recognizable by the flower schtick.
Conclusion: Highly recommended and in fact if you don't like this sweet, polite, dainty little girl (who was quick to tell me that "I am a prostitute but I finished high school and have taken computer classes") you are just flat queer and that is all there is to it.

So this morning I get up, have my usual great Dazzler breakfast with plenty of fruit and hot strong coffee, and begin to gather my things to go to Colonia. Suddenly I come to my senses and decide I am not going to take a hot ass boat ride to some bum fuck town full of tourist when for the same money I can get reamed, steamed, and dry cleaned.

Someone else will have to investigate Uruguay. I am going to call Graciela or maybe Gabriela or maybe cruise the outdoor pussy buffet.

Guillermo

01-15-03, 16:05

Dickhead,

I refuse to allow you to leave BA! You must stay there forever and deliver hilarious posts to us every day.

Seriously, your accounts of life on the streets are fascinating. I'm beginning to wonder why anyone would want to go to the clubs when every woman in the city seems to be on the make.

Sorry to hear you won't be going to Colonia, guess I'll have to make that trip myself and then tell you what it's like.

Guillermo

ezy

01-15-03, 18:40

Dickhead. You are obviously a sick pervert. This probably explains why I enjoy your posts. Keep up the good work.

umgman

01-15-03, 19:29

Dickhead--you seriously piss me off. Because I am the one who should be in BA right now instead of the frozen fucking midwest tundra. FUCK ME. Thanks for some good narrative.

I guess I'll have to settle for being Dickhand for now. FUCK ME.

apstar

01-15-03, 19:36

These posts by Dickhead are f**king hilarious. If Jackson is reading this. These posts by Dickhead should be given a thread of its own so that we can go back and find it later.

Dancesw/Chicas

01-15-03, 20:03

"BRAVO, bravissimo for Dickhead!!!"
"The New York Times"

"The funniest post!"
USA today

"Dickhead is out of control"
Chicago Sun-Times

Dickhead

01-15-03, 20:38

Buenos Aires, Day 9

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

I worked up an excellent appetite for both food and pussy walking the Florida mall. These women wear really tight pants. If I ever go deaf I will have no problems because I am learning to read lips.

I quenched the former appetite in the ground floor restaurant of the Howard Johnson's. Highly recommended at 7 pesos for a great sandwich, ice cold cerveza, and little bitty potatoes.

I headed for the hotel to quench the latter appetite, thinking to call Gabriela and watch her masturbate with the vibrator and maybe jack off all over her. On the way back I spotted a hooker at the hack stand on 9 de Julio and Marcelo T.

I told her fifty pesos and I don't want any blow job or anything, I just want to tear your clothes off and fuck you as fast as I can. I took her upstairs and fucked her and had her out of there in ten minutes.

Name unknown, description wet hole, conclusion vague. Appointment with Gabriela at 10:30. Viagra in the game plan. Possibility of Karen for dessert.

larscraven

01-15-03, 22:58

Just finished a meeting and now it's only seven days to go. Been brushing up on my Spanish, got it up to 3rd grade level, got my vitamin V, and if United Airlines doesn't collapse in the next week I'm on my way. Thomas Cook won't exchange pesos for dollars, so I hope there's an ATM at the airport in BA Have appreciated all the great postings and info, used Mayri for hotel(Etoile and NH City) and transportation, got Roxana lined up for a little touring of BA and then I'll be ready to hit the streets all night. Any mongers on the forum in town from January 24th thru the 30th, give a shout, I'd love to buy you a drink. E mail me at larscraven@hotmail.com
Chau.

seoulmac

01-15-03, 23:22

Wow, it really seems that BA is the place to be. Just happen to have a reservation pending for this weekend just for kicks and to try something non-Asian. Any others around and wish to get together? 3 day weekend with Martin Luther King day on Monday so "I Have a Wet Dream....."

Will be there Sat-Mon, drop a line- seoulmac@yahoo.com

JamesBond69

01-16-03, 01:32

Originally posted by dancesw/chicas
"BRAVO, bravissimo for Dickhead!!!"
"The New York Times"

"The funniest post!"
USA today

"Dickhead is out of control"
Chicago Sun-Times

"Why the Strange Mongering"
James Bond Monger Review

I really don't understand Dickheads style of mongering?

Why doesn't he he try the clubs or internet girls?

Why such an emphasis only on SW and chance encounters with amateurs/semi-pros?

Don Johnson

01-16-03, 13:59

Originally posted by jamesbond69
"Why the Strange Mongering"
James Bond Monger Review

I really don't understand Dickheads style of mongering?

Why doesn't he he try the clubs or internet girls?

Why such an emphasis only on SW and chance encounters with amateurs/semi-pros?

I believe Gabriela and Karen (in his last post) are those of Escort Baires(?). Dickhead has pretty much done the whole spectrum - internet girls, SW and amateurs/semi-pros.

I like the development in his posts. The first days it was all about the internet girls, and by now he has gotten more laid back and fucks who, when and where he wants to :)

Seems to me he's living the good life...

Vampyr

01-16-03, 15:47

"So we chat and she says what do you think about Argentinian women and I say I think they are easy as hell."

Haha, truly rich. I appreciate dickhead's off the beaten path approach, makes for a more diverse experience, It sure makes for a better story than ordering pizza..(oops) I mean chicas online.

rob_roy5

01-16-03, 19:24

Hey Dickhead,
tell us your secret: are you American Irish or Irish-Irish ??? I mean: after your BA adventure are you gonna go back to USA or to sunny (not !!!) Ireland ???
Was just wondering because I am not Irish myself but I do live in Ireland ... would like to meet up for a drink if you around in Dublin.

Cheers, RO

rob_roy5@hotmail.com

P.S. Anybody who wants to hook up in March in HEAVEN (BA !!!), I'll be there (second time in 5 months) between the 8th and the 22nd, would love to meet up with fellow mongers .... Can't wait !!!

Andres

01-16-03, 19:41

Report, 16th and last issue

Nuevo Estilo and Envidia

During Tuesday, I spent my time buying clothes and CDs. I ofund out that taylored suits and shirts take 7-10 days to be delivered, so I passed (but bought very nice shoes for only $60 at Lopez Taibo). After the farewell dinner, I took the car and went to Nuevo Estilo (same entrance prices as before).

There, I found a few more girls than the night before, about 15 in total. By 12:30AM, they were moderately busy, but by 2AM many girls were working full speed. In fact, I took my time watching how the girls behaved respect to time and customers. The "queen" of the place, named Greta (tall, big boobs, slender body, nice legs, usually working as entertainer) was coming in and out every 20-30 minutes with a different guy. That raised a red flag: Servicing patrons as fast food carts do hot dogs at Boston's Fenway Park. Perhaps after 1AM is is too crowded to be there and get an unhurried service.

When I could stop her during one of her quick visits to the dance floor, she told me ar$100 for 20 minutes (the same price as reported in 8th issue), absolutely conventional (CBJ, etc). I guess that, since she works like hell, she asks that price, which I deem the highest at Nuevo Estilo. I declined her offer.

At every hour o'clock, there is a 2 performers show (2 acts, I mean). Later, I stopped a girl (forgot her name) with nice ass and average teets but ugly teeth and below average face, who quoted me ar$75 for 20 minutes and ar$100 for 30 minutes, everything covered. I think that this is too much for a quickie and headed towards Flores.

I went to Envidia in order to repeat my experience with Magalí (see 9th issue). The place was less crowded than weekends, but most of the girls were available. Unfortunately, Magaly started an 1 hour session when I arrived, so I ghad to wait until 3:30AM to make her. As before, ar$50 for 30 minutes, and she promised BBBJ.

For some reason, Magali was nervous or pissed off. She complained a lot and argued with the manager. I gave her ar$20 more for the BBBJ and offered ar$30 for BBBJTC, but she declined the last one, this time threatening to reporting me to management if I came in her mouth.

Her BBBJ was very good, and made me finish soon. After the session, I wanted to leave soon (no massages or the like when girls are altered). While dressing again, I saw her under full bright light. Gees! She has a nice, natural, hourglass shaped body. She was darkly tanned due to a recent trip to Pinamar (I bet guys would die for her at the beach). However, this experience was substandard, so I may no repeat her in my next trip.

On Wednesday, I had too many social events, so I coud't do my expected "finale" with Lola of Area-Vip. Perhaps in a couple of months.

Yesterday, when driving to Ezeiza, I saw a kind of boliche at Riobamba St 376 or similar (small place). Maybe one of you guys would like to research. Later, I took my flight to Miami and here I am.

Hope my experiences of this trip help you, guys.

Andres

JamesBond69

01-16-03, 19:47

It's official. Buenos Aires ranks 130 out of 134 cities in Worldwide Cost of Living Survey" by London-based Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) released Thursday (today).

Quote from report:

"Political and economic turmoil have caused a sharp drop in the cost of living. Buenos Aires saw its ranking fall to 130th from 21st."

Dickhead

01-16-03, 20:28

Originally posted by jamesbond69
"Why the Strange Mongering"
James Bond Monger Review

I really don't understand Dickheads style of mongering?

Why doesn't he he try the clubs or internet girls?

Why such an emphasis only on SW and chance encounters with amateurs/semi-pros?

TOP TEN REASONS I HAVE NOT TRIED THE CLUBS

1). Can't stand cigarette smoke
2). More expensive
3). Don't want to buy drinks for anyone I might not fuck
4). Been to tons of them in Mexico
5). Too pushy
6). Action starts too late at night
7). Seems unnecessary given the quantity and quality of pussy on the street
8). Can´t stand cigarette smoke
9). I love the streets
10). Can't stand cigarette smoke

badboy77777

01-16-03, 20:29

jamesbond69 is there a site where we can see this interesting report? I am also interested in some other cities.

badboy

Dickhead

01-16-03, 20:31

Originally posted by rob_roy5
Hey Dickhead,
tell us your secret: are you American Irish or Irish-Irish ??? I mean: after your BA adventure are you gonna go back to USA or to sunny (not !!!) Ireland ???
Was just wondering because I am not Irish myself but I do live in Ireland ... would like to meet up for a drink if you around in Dublin.

Cheers, RO

rob_roy5@hotmail.com

P.S. Anybody who wants to hook up in March in HEAVEN (BA !!!), I'll be there (second time in 5 months) between the 8th and the 22nd, would love to meet up with fellow mongers .... Can't wait !!!

I am a US citizen of Irish descent, born in the US and lived in Ireland between the time I was 8 and 12 years old. My father was an Irish citizen born in Sligo and my mother was Irish American (both her parents were born in Ireland, one in Athlone and the other in Cork or thereabouts).

Dickhead

01-16-03, 20:51

Buenos Aires Day 9 (yesterday)

Surprisingly, Gabriela was a no-show. I figured I would try to find Karen again. Hit Florida and Paraguay and she was not there. Another hottie was in the same spot. Tall and dark with a nice body and a cute face but again a few crooked teeth. I have a few crooked teeth too. Said she wanted 80. I said maybe later. I figured I might check out that Graciela chick. Didn't have the number on me but since I posted it here, no real problem. Before I could hit a locutorio to look it up, I ran into the tout again (Fernando). He called her up and led me to her apartment on Corrientes a bit west of Florida. Earlier I had asked him how much and he said you have to ask her. Got to her apt and she says 100. I say fine. It is not air conditioned. It is hot. We go in a room with a message table and she says money first. I pull out 100 pesos. She says no, 100 dollars. I say forget it bye bye and I am out the door. I get to the ground floor and you need a key to get out. Dickhead is trapped.

I figure I am going to pull the fire alarm but fortunately the tout must have taken the stairs because he was still in the building. I told him look this is total bullshit and I want out of here now, right now, right fucking now. Dickhead is very scary when he is pissed. He gets her to let us out and I give him 5 Euros and tell him I can get a better looking woman in 5 minutes for less than 100 pesos. This gal was a 7 at best, mid-thirties, absolutely no reason to pay 100 bucks for a fuck in a hot room.

So back to Florida y Paraguay and the girl, Maria. Very cute. Back to my hotel.

OK, guys, this is the best sex I have had in this town, some of the best sex of my life, and maybe the best blow job I have ever had. This gal's body is perfect. When I came out of the bathroom after washing up, she is sitting on my bed sucking on her own tit. Total deep throat bare back blow job, all the way down to the root and then some. If you have a big dick (I don't but it's my pile driving ass they love anyway) and like deep throat this is the girl for you. No problem if you want to CIM although I did not. I had a headache from the Viagra or maybe it was the heat. She had told me that time was not a problem but they all say that but she meant it. Stayed maybe two and a half hours, two loads, multiple blow sessions, whatever. She will do three ways and lesbiana if you are into that (you fucking pervert :)) She is supposed to call me tonight at 9 PM.

No whining for tips, said it wan't necessary, did not ask for cab fare. I tipped her 20 Euros. Why Euros? I don't know; they were tucked inside my passport and I had forgotten about them. I doubt I will go to Europe for sex again after this fucking place so why not use them up.

Name: Maria
Location: Florida and Paraguay
Description: Full blooded criolla, long dark hair, medium dark skin, 5' 7", maybe [Maria]

[Maria]

[Maria]

[Maria]

34C or 34D (not too big and not too small but just the size of a cannon ball)
Conclusion: A total fuck monster. Check her out.

Then today Marta showed up at my hotel (I had a feeling that would happen) and I screwed her all day and told her I would consider sending her a ticket to visit me, but only if I can do it with airline points and not cash. I did buy her a sewing machine to the tune of about $110 US. I met her kid. He wants a dad real bad. It is a good thing I am leaving tomorrow. We just said our goodbyes. She said earlier today that we are just friends and I can screw whatever I feel like. Duh. I knew that already.

Also Maria knows Karen and saw me pick her up night before last (she remembered us looking at the map). These girls don't seem to be jealous of each other like in Mexico.

JamesBond69

01-16-03, 21:37

Originally posted by badboy77777
jamesbond69 is there a site where we can see this interesting report? I am also interested in some other cities.

badboy

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030116/wl_nm/economy_cities_priciest_dc_2

But this link is focused on the expensive cities, like Osaka and Tokyo (the most expensive) in Japan.

There is a link on the Yahoo article to Economist but you have to pay/register to see all the details.

LA Larry

01-16-03, 23:59

QUESTION FOR THOSE ON THE GROUND

Has anyone tried the girls from Area-Vip?

For some reason they strike me as a hell of a lot hotter than other websites.

Is this because they are bait and switch models? Or are they legitimately a high quality chica?

Thanks for the info!!!

High on Hobbyin

01-17-03, 06:04

andresg1967

What was the going price for a suit? Was there a particular tailoring shop that is well known? Where is it? What are the approximate hours of shops in BA?

Thanks for your posts. Your posts and those of Saint, Dickhead...and jamesbond69 have made me hungry for hobbying for months. These posts have also given me invaluable information and insight into the people and culture of Argentina. I look forward to a great trip next month. Thanks entirely to all of you!

el ricardo and MRLA

I'll be in Rio, Mar del Plata and BA between February 1-19. If anyone's going to be around and care to get together drop quick note to my email: highonhobbyin@yahoo.com and I'll send you a copy of my itinerary - it's a bit complicated.

MoonDog

01-17-03, 06:56

Originally posted by LA Larry
QUESTION FOR THOSE ON THE GROUND

Has anyone tried the girls from Area-Vip?

For some reason they strike me as a hell of a lot hotter than other websites.

Is this because they are bait and switch models? Or are they legitimately a high quality chica?

Thanks for the info!!!

La Larry,

The photos are air-brushed considerably to make the girls look a lot better that they really are. Some may be accurate, but do not be surprised that the person that shows up at your door does not look anywhere as good as her photos.

For 100% accuracy, stick to www.escorts-argentina.com.

Moondog

LA Larry

01-17-03, 13:01

Moondog--

Thanks!

LA Larry

BA_Robert

01-17-03, 13:20

andresg1967:

You mention someting about Greta from Nuevo Estilio. Is it the tall brunette hostess that usually manages the DJ-table directly to the left when you enter?

Guillermo

01-17-03, 14:26

Dickhead, me Boy-o! Sure and you've got a heart o' gold and a shillelagh of iron. May the wind be always at your back and the road always lead downhill to your next BBBJ.

I take it from your posts that every female in BA over the age of 18 is proposition-able. Would you say that's a safe assumption?

Guillermo

Andres

01-17-03, 16:11

High on Hobbying:

As I reported before, there are several men apparel shops at Callao Av between MT Alvear St and Santa Fe Av (at least 7 shops).

For suits, I recommend Master's, which is located at Callao Av 1070. They charge ar$690 and up for a taylored suit, which takes 7-10 days to be finished. I guess that for ar$800 you should have a damn good 3 pieces suit made of British fabrics.

A non-taylored suit (or semi-taylored, since they adjust standard sizes) runs from ar$250 to ar$600. I bought one of these at Scarano (corner of Callao Av and MT Alvear) on December 2001.

I visited the store last Monday and I bought a beautiful silk tie for ar$89. They offered me a very good shirt made of British cotton fabrics for ar$100, but I delayed the purchase for my next trip.

For shirts, I recommend the store at Santa Fe Av 1825, which make taylored shirts in 7 days. They charge between ar$89 to ar$160 (an awesome shirt made of Swiss Voile fabrics). I just bought a casual shirt for ar$69 at Santa Fe Av 2800, next to a dry plaza (the store has an English name).

Stores use to be open frm 9-10AM to 7-8PM, some of them closing on the afternoons for 1-3 hours (siesta remnants...).

Thanks for your compliments.

Andres

Andres

01-17-03, 16:14

BA_ROBERT:

Yes, it's her. Somewhat cocky and pro-styled for my taste, but really hot legs and tits.

Andres

Andres

01-17-03, 16:47

Guys:

I remember taht some of you were interested in the Bonnefemme apartment. I saw a new girl who posted in Gemidos (Julieta) who took her pictures at the same room I was with Celeste (see 11th issue of my report). That way, you can see un-enhanced pictures of the basic room.

Just for your info.

Andres

Saint

01-17-03, 19:10

Just a quick update. No offense to Dickhead but anyone that is missing the clubs at night is making a MAJOR mistake. The clubs are where it's at. There are a lot of hot chicks at the club. You can get tons of phone numbers from the club girls. BA is VERY slow now though. I'm glad I'm in Rio now. I've been posting my Rio adventures in that section but anyone that comes here and doesn't go out to the clubs is missing out.

But have your own fun. Do what makes you happy. It's all about having fun. The clubs in BA are different than anywhere in the world. Also, it is a late night town so if you're not used to that then sleep during day so you have energy at night.

Have fun. I come back to BA tomorrow.

Saint

thor

01-18-03, 01:32

DH, thanks for all your posts. I do like your rating scale as well! My mom's family originally from County Armaugh, during the potato famine. thor

Slurpee

01-18-03, 01:47

Saint

Now, you mention clubs is the place to go, now the girl that you went to dinner for and that you set up the email for, is that a girl you met at a dance club? Cuz you mention that you pre-arranged the price, and that doesnt seem like a pick-up from a club thing. I'm gonna go back and read some more of your posts to see. maybe I mis-read.

If you do mean clubs like dance clubs, I'll go back and read which ones you recommend.

Prufrock

01-18-03, 03:21

Originally posted by Dickhead
TOP TEN REASONS I HAVE NOT TRIED THE CLUBS

1). Can't stand cigarette smoke
2). More expensive
3). Don't want to buy drinks for anyone I might not fuck
4). Been to tons of them in Mexico
5). Too pushy
6). Action starts too late at night
7). Seems unnecessary given the quantity and quality of pussy on the street
8). Can´t stand cigarette smoke
9). I love the streets
10). Can't stand cigarette smoke

DH,

I thought for sure you would have mentioned another reason to the question why street action and chance occurrences? The same reason that you drink in the streets in BA -because you can there and not at home. How cool is that? Nothing more or less.

I know this is late in coming but I have been waiting to be cleared to post (btw again thanks Jackson for clearing things up) and since no one said it , I thought I would pitch in my 2cents.

Again DH, thanks for the post.

P

0919

01-18-03, 16:16

Jackson-Just returned from a quick trip through BA and used Roxana not only for help but as a tour guide. Can't thank you enough or reccomend her highly enough to fellow mongers. Wonderful lady with a great personality and was willing to be helpful in any way possible. i can only say to those planning to be there soon-if you need help contact this wonderful lady.

Don Johnson

01-18-03, 18:34

In less than 3 weeks i will be in Rio and after the Carneval I am going to Buenos Aires. I must say, you guys do not make the last weeks easy on me. I can't wait to get there!

BTW, are there any nice casinos in BA? I am not a big gambler, but if you got sun, fun, good drinking, eating and mongering, a black jack table is the only thing I can think of that would make my stay even better :)

Guillermo

01-18-03, 19:05

Originally posted by 0919
Jackson-Just returned from a quick trip through BA and used Roxana not only for help but as a tour guide. Can't thank you enough or reccomend her highly enough to fellow mongers. Wonderful lady with a great personality and was willing to be helpful in any way possible. i can only say to those planning to be there soon-if you need help contact this wonderful lady.

I'm planning a trip to BA in June and I've been thinking about using Roxana as well. The idea of using her as a tour guide appeals to me. Can you give us some more info on the services she provides and what she charges, flat fee or hourly rate?

Thanks,

Guillermo

LA Larry

01-19-03, 00:35

Gullermo--

Re: your question if every girl over 18 is propostional.

I would have to say no (but don't let that discourage you).

BA is not the DR or Cuba, where it seems truly like every woman is on the fucking loose to the point of surreality.

I will say that I did very well with working class/middle class NON-PROFESSIONAL girls in Argentina. And if you are a reasonably together US/European citizen with cash to burn you will have no problem scoring girls that work as waitresses, supermarket clerks, and the like. (But then you needn't fly to Argentina to have that affect on regular chicas.)

The crazy hot NON PROFESSIONAL chicas you see struting around Recoleta and downtown, generally speaking are members of the haute-bourgeouisie and are GENERALLY wise enough to stay away from Sex tourists. (YMMV)

Take solace in the fact that the program girls are so hot in BA, that its utterly pointless to get involved with amatuers (unless of course that's your bag).

50% of the program chicas in BA will happily give you there cell phone numbers and if you are inclined on your vacation, you can easily can to an equitable arrangement to stay monogamous with them for the duration of your trip.

I formulated a little tally of my last Argentina statistics and figured I would share it with the board.

28 days in Argentina.
17 total chicas
3 awful sessions (my fault in hindsite; rash choices)
10 average sessions
4 blockbuster all out porn-star sessions

additionally
I did bag a non-professional for several nights in MDP who was pretty wild in the sack but really didn't measure up to the my hottest pro session.

total cash "laid out" for the 17 chicas: approxinately $1350 (not including bar tabs and cabs)

El Ricardo

01-19-03, 12:01

LA Larry:
Thanks for the statistics. Two more data points would be helpful:
The average price you was $80.00. How long were the average sessions? And the more direct question: How much for todo la noche?
ER

0919

01-19-03, 16:27

Guillermo- Roxana arranged a mini bus and driver for 3 friends and I-cost for driver and bus for 3 1/2 hours was $30US plus tip. She charged $5 per hour as tour guide-of course I tipped her quite well and she joined us for dinner. She will arrange all escorts you wish for a charge of $10 per girl and will ask all necessary questions as to services-relay expectations etc. so well worth it. More importantly she is just a delightful lady whom you will enjoy and if she takes a fancy to you will be happy to provide you intimate companionship as well(I paid her an additional $100 for this but it was on several occasions. I can only tell you I had planned an evening at Blacks and after dinner I chose to take a known and quite enjoyable lady rather than take a chance-the lady is quite talented! Not a young hard body but an experienced woman who will not dissapoint.

Guillermo

01-19-03, 16:36

LA Larry & Dickhead,

Thanks for those valuable insights on non-pros in BA. Getting back to Dickhead's point about, "What's the big deal about drinking in the street?". Because I can, because it's something that I can't do back in the gool ol' USA. That's why I fly all the way to Argentina.

The impression I get is that young non-pro women in BA are not going to call in the vice squad just because you proposition them. Realizing, of course, that one must excerise a modicum of discretion and tact when making these overtures, being propositioned is just something that happens to young women in BA and it's nothing to get excited about. After all, if you're not interested, just say NO.

It interests me because it's something that you can't do back in the USA (well, you can, but you have to be much more careful).
I've never been to BA before, and I may never be again, so it's good to know what the full range of possibilities are when I'm there.

Pros I can get here. They may be ten times more expensive, but the experience is not that novel. Maybe BA is different.

By the way, Larry, I was surprised to read your post wherein you found yourself shivering in the snows of Red Square. I have always enjoyed the women in Eastern Europe, but then, I speak some Russian and I think that makes a big difference. Learning Russian is probably a bit much for the casual tourist, but if you will be stationed there, it might be a worthwhile investment. There's a whole world of warm willing women on the other side of that wall. And, come to think of it, most of them will not be pros.

Guillermo

Guillermo

01-19-03, 16:44

Thanks 0919, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

This is strangely fascinating. I can hire this woman to explain to other women what my sexual expectations are and she will take care of all the arrangements.

I think I'm going to like BA.

Guillermo

LA Larry

01-19-03, 18:15

Elricardo--

The "average" session I found to be at least three hours, although some were as short as 45 minutes.

Generally speaking I picked up girls in clubs after 1AM (I'm a night owl) and I negotiated in advance that I wanted them for "a few hours".

Because of the late hour (and my overwhelming charm. LOL) this was a very easy deal to strike.

Because--

(to reiterate an observation that I made several months ago that still holds true)--a bevy of the club girls go home alone each night without bagging a john. I estimate that easily 20 girls from Blacks leave without earning a nickle every night.

Therefore--

If you are nice gent--you will find it very simple to score a chica at that time of the night for 200 pesos for tres horas and I dare say you could even negotiate a short time rate for 100 pesos. (for an hour that can easily turn into 90 minutes because once they are outside the club--the girls generally turn off their meter and kick back a little)

As an aside--in Mar Del Plata--most chicas starting asking price was 150 pesos which would then fall to 100 pesos without batting an eyelash. The 100 pesos always covered two shots on goal (which generally takes me two hours, after which I would be showing them the door, no matter how hot they were; funny how once you realize that a beautiful 19 year old chica can be had for 50 bucks--you no longer value the expereince as you would in the states. Its great and all--but it becomes so commonplace that I had no desire to sleep with most of these girls and then have to seal with them in the morning; remember boys, I'm in my forties now and I was averaging 2 orgasms per day for over three weeks straight).

Regarding tips--

Lastly--call me a dupe--but for whatever reason--I always made it clear to the chicas that I would offer a "propina" if they went out of their way to please me with "complete service".

which meant if a chica allowed anal and BBBJ and legitimately tried to bond with me--my standard tip was 100 pesos.

When service was just average--I still would tip the girls, mainly to avoid having to hear the oh so boring plea for cab fare. And my standard "average" service tip was 50 pesos.

On the occasion of reall poor service (which is rare) I did not tip but I had some fun by giving them cab fare when they asked (5 pesos!) This was my way of making a statement. You had a chance to earn 100 pesos (or even 50 pesos) but you blew it by not doing your job.

To conclude--

As a strategy in Argentina, I would strongly suggest tearing through as many chicas as possible until you strike on a solid pornstar experience--at which point--stick with this gal and be sure to get her number.

I could foresee a scenario where a bloke flies down to BA for 5 nights and sees 5 girls from the clubs and goes home wondering what all the hub-bub is about. I mean, yes the girls are hot, available and cheap--but you still have to be a little lucky to strike on the great sessions. And sometimes this is a matter of "towing the line" and playing a numbers game. For example The first part of my trip was filled with mainly average sessions, not bad, but not pornstar like. Yet I didn't despair, I kept plugging away (literally and figuratively) and eventually bagged 4 bona fide CHAMPS that made the trip truly memorable. Hed I given up (or had my vacation been shorter) I wouldn't have been as happy.

Re--one of my crazy pornstar like experiences

I met a crazy Brazilian chica at Playwoman who was game for virtually anything. I had her the first night every which way for 200 pesos. The next night we went to dinner and had a TLN session for the same amount although she tried to refuse the money. Didn't see her after that but then I finally called her again and had her bring along a chica and the total damage for a 4 hour session with two girls was 400 pesos BUT LET ME TELL YOU--these girls performed like authentic lesbians--even after I would shoot my seed and go into the bathroom to clean up--they would continue to french kiss each other for 20 minutes. I'm talking: SPECTACULAR SEX here.

PS--

For those on a Cambodia/Laos budget--

It is very easy to order Clarin girls in BA and have them for an hour in your hotel room for 30-50 pesos. Christ, there are even ads for 15 minute blow jobs sin preservitivo for 10 pesos (US$3)

Didn't bother to really experiment too much this time with Clarin, except once when I called up a LOLITA ad that promised an 18 year old for 70 pesos. Naturally they sent over a chica pushing 30. But to be fair, she was a dicksucking champion so I can't really fault the agency for the bait and switch. Paid here 100 pesos for two loads and she was happy as a clam. Would've spent the rest of my vacation with me for free. As we dressed I plied her with questions because she didn;t really seem like a hardened program chica...She was a divorce, rendered unemployed by the ecomonic meltdown, and had turned to hooking as a way to eat. I know for a fact that she wasn't lying, you could tell that the girl had a certain degree of class. Anyway--to make a long story short, I ended up tipping her with a US Benjamin Franklin because I truly felt sorry for her.

The world is a shitty place. When you encounter a decent human being--be generous.

Peace and love!

La Larry

JamesBond69

01-19-03, 19:01

Originally posted by 0919
More importantly she is just a delightful .

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Ditto for Mayri at argentigo.com These two ladies are really class acts and enhance your stay in Buenos Aires.

Take advantage of what they have to offer. Believe me you wouldn't regret it.

Saint

01-19-03, 22:07

I posted this in the Rio section but I'm posting it here too since I actually left from Buenos Aires. God I miss the city already. Have fun guys and stay safe.

_______

I’m sitting at the airport now in Buenos Aires. The flight to the USA is oversold and they are offering $800 US to give up my seat. I am so tempted and even volunteered my seat. We will see how it goes. Last night was amazing. After I posted my last post I met up with UWPhoto and SFHombre and we had some good food at a Charriscarita. UWPhoto and SFH had a session at Luomo. It was only 9:30 PM when we got done eating so I suggested we go to Luomo so I could get a massage and wait for Help to open. (God I love that place!). We said our goodbyes to UWPhoto. I had a great time as usual with my partner in crime. It’s not just the hobbying together but we always have good conversations. A true friend.

Went to Luomo and I had an excellent massage by “Jack”queline the masseuse. 40 R for 40 minutes same as usual. I must be getting jaded from doing so many girls this trip. I didn’t see any girls at Luomo that I wanted to do. I’ve already done about 7-8 girls from there. Still my favorite terma. SFHombre got lucky and scored a newbie on her very first day on the program. Thanks to a helpful trip from Rich (GCL). A really good guy who is always willing to offer his help.

We went directly from there to Help. Man, it was packed. There was some good talent there. I saw another dude that I met during Thanksgiving in Buenos Aires. A really good guy. We said our hellos but I was off to find Ms. Right. I spotted this really sultry garota. Man she had a hot body and I loved her eyes. She was walking around with her friend. I told SFHombre that she was mine. I did end up going up and talking to her. I was surprised that she spoke fluent Spanish. Turns out she lived in Buenos Aires for 6 months before the economic crisis. I asked her where she worked and she told me only Newport’s (a bar that freelancers work at). She told me she made about $200 - $300 US per session. Wow. She liked the city but more money in Rio. She is from Sao Paulo and is only working here one month.

She wanted $250 US to which I only laughed at and gave her the usual line of taking away her Smirnoff Ice telling her I thought she was drunk. I used my other standard line of telling her I really needed Portuguese lessons and inquired how much they cost. She smiled. I told her to get realistic though. I could see all these guys staring at her and ready to pounce on her. She countered with $150 US. I told her we were in Rio not Miami and I had no dollars. She asked for 500 R . I laughed again. She said 300 R was her minimum. I didn’t want to risk not seeing her so I agreed. It was for 3 hours.

Even though I’ve only been to Rio 2 times I went to Help Disco about 13 nights. I pulled a hottie out of there every single night. There are 3 main types of groups of girls there. (1) the hottie that surprisingly will hold out for only one guy the entire night. She will dance with her friends, blow off guys she isn’t interested in, never approach guys only waiting for guys to approach them, She will want top dollar and probably can get it. She is hot and she knows she is hot. A true pro but could be awesome in bed. (2) the pretty girl that is trying to make as much as she can. Her main goal isn’t to score a huge amount in one “score” but to get several sessions per night. She isn’t the hottest girl in there but she knows it and tries to make up for it with volume. She’ll arrange one hour sessions and quickly come back to the club. (3) the dog ass ugly garota that most likely conned some poor guy into paying their 23R cover. She desperately hopes some drunk guy will get beer goggles and choose her. She is past her prime or never had a prime time.

There are several other types but those are the main types I observed. I only went for the hotties I was attracted to. Most of them only went out 1-2 times per night. It really really helps to speak at least some Portuguese. My Spanish is decent and many could understand me. By the end of the trip I could understand a lot of the girls and they understood me.

Anyway, the girl I brought back the last night was really different. She was a little shy at first. Not shy but she was holding back and kept shaking her head. I guess her ex-boyfriend in Sao Paulo looked a lot like me. I could tell something was weird so I kept asking her and she finally told me. We talked a lot because she could speak Spanish. We got home earlier around 2:30 AM (that is early for a Help night). She stayed until like 6 AM when I desperately needed to go to bed. She let me take pictures and seemed to know about the internet but never told me not to post. I think she didn’t care because she didn’t live in Rio. Not sure. She gave me her real full name and even let me look at her ID which most of the girls did. Most of the girls asked to look at my ID because they all thought I was younger than I am. I think I look my age but every single garota in Help and the termas kept saying they thought I was younger.

I got her phone numbers. I sure hope to travel throughout Brazil because I have gotten phone numbers of girls that are only working in Rio for a month or so. From Curituba, Sao Paulo, Belo Horizontal, Florinopolis, etc.

I passed on giving up my seat. They couldn’t get me out tomorrow night. I’d have to wait till Monday and I desperately need to get back into the office. I hope I still have a job. I hated giving up $800 US in travel vouchers but I can’t risk it. Also, my mail is piling up in the USA. I’m in the Miami airport now typing this.

I woke up the last day in Rio early and had breakfast with SFHombre. I’ll miss spending time hobbying and chatting with him. Another good guy that you definitely should hook up with if you can. I made a new friend which is always nice on these international trips. I flew back to Buenos Aires and by the time I cleared customs and made it to my apartment it was 5:10 PM. I had to rush because I had a 5:30 PM meeting. Before I went to Rio I had a meeting in the morning with an owner of another apartment. I couldn’t see the one she wanted to show me but I saw another with the same floor plan. I told her that I flew out Saturday night but I arrive from Rio and we could meet at 5:30 PM. I told her to have a full contract ready to sign in case I liked it. She thought I wasn’t serious but she did know that I already had two apartments and I had the ability to close quickly. Long story short…I liked it. Not luxury like the other two apartments but very quaint and charming. I really like it. It is in the middle of the other two apartments and is ½ block from Patio Bullrich shopping mall. It has a big balcony. I told her to buy an air-conditioner for it and I want cable and high-speed internet access like the other two. This one will probably only be like $35 US a night. Also, there is a café below and they can deliver breakfast or lunch up to your room for like 5 pesos. ($1.50 us)!!! That had to be the quickest closing on an apartment in BA ever ! Ha, ha.

Afterwards, I had to rush home to pack. I was very very sad to leave Buenos Aires. I’ve been out of the country 5 weeks now. I have no desire to return. I’m in love with South America and it already feels like home. I’m not sure how long I can stay away. So far the most I’ve made it is like 1 ½ months. My next ticket that I’ve already bought is May 16th – May 26th. I doubt I can wait that long. I have 3 apartments in a month. I’m looking at yet another in two weeks. Same owner. If I like it they will let me close from the USA.

I want to personally thank all of you that I’ve had the pleasure to meet the past 5 weeks both in Buenos Aires and Rio. I’ve met a lot of good guys and I had a great time with all of you. I spent a lot more time with some more than others. I hope we can hook up again in South America or another destination. Cuba is calling my name and I hope to hit it soon.

P.S. I could care less what guys that are supposedly "Rio experts" say about Help. I didn't overpay. There is no way that the super hotties will go for less than 200 - 300 R for a few hours. Riodreams is 100% correct. The super European looking hotties (especially the ones from Sao Paulo) will ask for $200+ US. Don't get discouraged...just negotiate if you can but be mindful that most will hold out. There are a lot of guys interested in them. I feel very fortunate to have slept with so many of them. My super hottie from Help called me today already in the USA.

I miss South America already.

Dickhead

01-19-03, 22:41

Originally posted by Guillermo
LA Larry & Dickhead,

Pros I can get here. They may be ten times more expensive, but the experience is not that novel. Maybe BA is different.

Guillermo

Man, there is no comparison. US hookers won't let you kiss them, won't let you go down on them, aren't interested in having an orgasm, want to charge extra for changing postions, are clock watchers, are not interested in dinner and conversation before or after, and CERTAINLY are not going to let you blow a huge, gooey load in their mouth. Now not all of the girls I saw down there were willing to do all of those things, but most of them were willing to do most of those things, at no extra charge.

I am already seeing if I can rearrange my Méjican vacation and go down there again instead (in March).

lotsafun

01-20-03, 03:16

Originally posted by Dickhead
Man, there is no comparison. US hookers won't let you kiss them, won't let you go down on them, aren't interested in having an orgasm, want to charge extra for changing postions, are clock watchers, are not interested in dinner and conversation before or after, and CERTAINLY are not going to let you blow a huge, gooey load in their mouth. Now not all of the girls I saw down there were willing to do all of those things, but most of them were willing to do most of those things, at no extra charge.

I am already seeing if I can rearrange my Méjican vacation and go down there again instead (in March).

In my experience, you can get all the goods things you discuss above at J****'s incall in Manhattan for $200/hr (180/hr on Saturday). Enthusiastic down your throat DFK, DATY, Multiple O's, multiple BBJNQNS from many of the ladies there. While the girls don't watch the clock, the house does. It's a good fill-in between trips to BA, that is if you have more money than time.
LAGNAF

Dickhead

01-20-03, 03:48

Originally posted by lotsafun
that is if you have more money than time.

LAGNAF

My situation is the reverse and also let's not forget the exposure to LE.

Gabriel

01-20-03, 04:44

I have been reading messages on this forum off and on for three months. I am a monger of days past in several countries, but new to BS. I have 34 days in BS starting Feb 5th thru Mar 11th.

I have two questions for jamesbond69 so please answer back Mr. Bond.

1) who is Roxanne and how can I get in touch with her. I have only limited spanish and feel I will need some assistance arranging chicas .

Editor's Note: Roxana is a personal friend of mine, and her contact information is available in the Announcements section listed at the top of the Forum's Table of Contents for Argentina.

Jackson

2) I have rented an appartment in the Palermo District.. How far in this district from Relocata district? Have I made a mistake and put myself to far from the action spots?

MRLA

01-20-03, 12:45

Hi Guys,

Well I'm back. Work has been making me crazy for the last 2 weeks. I still am planing my trip to BA. Am trying to leave on the 2nd of FEB. But work is getting in the way. Sure do enjoy all the posts. One question. In december I started planning my trip. The Peso was 3.5 /1. Now it is down to 3.19/1 does anyone know why the drop. And how much lower do you think it will go in the next month. They just raised the airfare on American from Los Angeles another $50, mostly because of the high gas prices here on the west coast.

Be Cool!
MRLA

14 days to BA (I hope)

Leo

01-20-03, 16:10

fyi, imo, if you're waiting for lower fares, you might not find them (except maybe a often seen pre-summer season promotion, eg. late-apr/may). the raise in airfare is more than just the price of gas, and i doubt we'll see super low fares like last fall ($280 + tax from mia). here's why, in addition to the slight increase in fuel costs - it's all due to supply + demand:

decreased supply:

- delta pulled out of the market, which is about 1/3 of all domestic
at the time; even ua pulled out of some markets (rio, caracaus)

- both ua and united shifted craft types to smaller planes (eg.
from 777 to 767)

increased demand:

- there seems to be a slight increase in demand, and when you
take into account that the airlines use yield mgmt to price,
there is a significant increase in 'relative' demand (ie. demand
relative to supply)

thus, aa & ua will not drop prices as their 'systems' tell them it's not needed to hit capacity goals. the other players (eg. mexicana, lan chile, aero columbia, brazilian & argentine airlines) likely follow u.s. vs. run their own analysis (just my guess on this last point).

Saint

01-20-03, 16:26

Leo is absolutely right. The flights to/from BA are jam packed right now. With Delta gone that is causing American to be very very busy. Also, United seems to be cutting back on some flights or something.

When I went to BA last month American was oversold. They were offering $800 US to fly out the following night. When I was coming back 2 days ago American was once again packed. United had some problems so they were sending some people to American's flights. They offered me $800 US to get bumped and I wanted desperately to take it but they couldn't get me out until Monday night (tonight). I had to be in the office today so I had to pass. Every single seat was sold in Economy, Business and First Class.

I even met a couple of hotties from California that were flying standby. Those poor girls had been waiting 3 days to get out. I told them to fly through Sao Paulo then go out. They had to be in classes at UCLA by Tuesday or something bad was gonna happen. I hope they made it out. Cute girls. First time I talked to American chicas at the BA airport.

BA is still one of the top 10 cheapest major cities to go to when you consider the cost of hotels/apartments, restaurants and chicas. I'd strongly suggest any that have the time/money to take the plunge and just do it.

**Also, not to defend the American escorts because I'll never use them again but I thought I'd mention it because of Dickhead's post. I've probably had about 200 sessions over the past 4 years with high class escorts in the USA. I've never had a bad session and all of them were total GFE. Not sure where you are going but for the ones that are charging $250 - $300 US per hour you damn well better be getting GFE sessions.

Good luck all.

Saint

Guillermo

01-20-03, 19:36

Originally posted by Dickhead
Day Whatever: Dickhead Tries to Do Colonia But Ends Up in Cordoba Province.

Tried to take Marta to Colonia for the day but her passport is expired and they would not let her go with just her cedula.

Hey DH, I'm trying to understand what kind of documentation a chica has to have to travel to Colonia. The guidebooks say that all they need is their national identity card. Is that what a "cedula" is? You seem to be saying that they wouldn't let her go without her passport.

I'd hate to make all the arrangements to take a chica to Colonia and then find out at the last minute that she's not legal to go.

BTW, thanks for the post on the Dazzler. Lots of detailed info that can't be found in a guidebook.

Guillermo

JackDaniels

01-20-03, 21:02

We may be going off topic too much on this one !

Anyway, airlines in Europe have also cut capacity in order to increase relative demand and airlines can ensure they fly a full load each time. However, these airlines run the risk of attracting a new entrant into the market place. The existing carriers with their existing fixed infrastructure costs will soon be toast ! The new entrant does not have this problem of course and can pick up staff and capacity on the cheap.

Having said all that, do we want this great city to be overrun with hordes of mongers from Europe/North America to lower the tone ? I guess we don't. Lets keep it a secret for as long we can or we run the risk of witnessing another Thailand being created !

Perhaps the increase in relative demand is a good thing :)

Just my thoughts...

Cheers.

ezy

01-20-03, 21:34

Gabriel. Palermo adjoins Recoleta. Palermo is a large barrio, though, and some parts are much closer to the action than are others. If you are close to Alto Palermo shopping mall, you are very close indeed. Even if you are further away you will probably not be more than a 5 peso/15 minute cab ride away from the heart of Recoleta. Have you made a mistake? Probably not, especially if you like the idea of immersing yourself in the culture. You will be staying where Argentinos live.......

MRLA....expect rates to wax and wane for the next few months. I saw a projection on the business page of La Nacion that indicated the peso is expected to slide again against the dollar, back to the 3.4:1 range before the end of February. This projection was based upon the price of futures in the peso. \

The recent improvement is a reflection of several variables, most notabley the IMF's agreement to loan more money to Argentina. Expect more ups and downs as election time rolls around in April.

leo...good analysis. I agree with the bottom line.....there will be "sale" prices to BA from key U.S. markets, but not as low as last year because of supply/demand and the price of fuel. Watch for bargains on despegar.com, carbone-travel.com and travelbuzz.net as well as the airline websites and travelocity, orbitz, etc.

Elvis

01-21-03, 01:39

I've been lurking for a week and I already love this forum.

I have been in BA 3 times last year and was "mongering" at the named nightclubs to the Clarin ads. I even have a gf there !! Didn't know other people enjoy it as well !! As saint says, take advantage that BA is cheap- flights, food, hotels and mianly women.

Luckily, I'm Ecuadorean and speak spanish very well, I was able to get really reduced price. :) I highly doubt you'll see the special prices going to EZE from last year,as the previous posters mentioned. Oh well ! I'm definately planning another trip with friends for early May, they want to experience the good life too..

Gabriel

01-21-03, 04:10

.....EZY... Thanks for the info on apartments and neighborhoods.
My apartment is on the cross streets of Beruti and Scalabrini Otriz, three blocks from Las Heras Park. Hope I am as you said close to Recoleta. I am new at the BS scene, but if this helps anyone I found this apartment on the internet. www. bytargentina.com Check the site out. choose Appartments and a drop down list will give you all the neighborhoods of BS. Site will show pictures of the appartments, usually inside and out if you click the "details" button it will show additional info on the appartment, as well as a three month schedule of vacancy. the prices seemed very reasonable to me. You can rent by the week or by the month.. Also listed on this site is their phone number. I had trouble getting the web site to take my info to secure the apartment and called the international number. They will answer in spanish, of course... just give them the well worn phrase "no hable espanol" and they'll put you in touch with a very nice lady named "marani", speaks fluent english and is very helpful. I secured the apartment with my Visa Card. ffor $50.00USD.
Again I will be in BS for 34 days starting Feb. 5th...I would sure enjoy meeting up with some of you guys. Looking forward to some great "sport fucking", not with you guys, but with the Chicas, of course, I am bent but not THAT bent! Thanks again to all those that post here you make it soooooo much easier for us newbies.

OttoGraham

01-21-03, 05:37

Uncle Otto is going to be in Buenos Aires for a short visit, January 29th through 31st. Any resident mongers who are up for a night (or afternoon) on the town are encouraged to email him at ottograham@hotmail.com. For those of you with heart conditions or those who can't hold their liquor, think carefully before replying to this message! ;-)

That said, are there any "new" hot suggestions for can't miss nightlife in the world's greatest city?

ezy

01-21-03, 07:21

Air fare. RE: the earlier discussion of escalating prices to BA. Here are the best available current fares I have found to BA, Uruguay and Chile. They are available via Carbone-travel.com. Despegar.com offers a lower fare to BA on Southwinds, an Argentine carrier ($359, plus taxes)

Atlanta $ 657.00 $ 699.00 $ 640.00
Boston $ 610.00 $ 670.00 $ 640.00
Baltimore $ 588.00 $ 680.00 $ 640.00
Chicago $ 680.00 $ 720.00 $ 835.00
Denver $ 699.00 $ 684.00 $ 780.00
Dallas, TX $ 750.00 $ 720.00 $ 748.00
Detroit $ 779.00 $ 720.00 $ 785 00
Houston $ 782.00 $ 720.00 $ 835.00
Los Angeles $ 640.00 $ 720.00 $ 720.00
Miami $ 425.00 $ 549.00 $ 519.00
Newark, NJ $ 449.00 $ 575.00 $ 599.00
New York $ 449.00 $ 499.00 $ 499.00
Philadelphia $ 588.00 $ 680.00 $ 640.00
San Diego $ 680.00 $ 720.00 $ 780.00
San Francisco $ 680.00 $ 720.00 $ 780.00
Seattle $ 799.00 $ 684.00 $ 868.00
Washington $ 488.00 $ 670.00 $ 488.00

Tome estas tarifas como referencia. Por favor llámenos al 1-800-ARGENTINA para reconfirmar su precio. Todas las tarifas están sujetas a cambio y disponibilidad. No incluyen impuestos.

MRLA

01-21-03, 12:12

Man you guys are the best! Thanks so much on all the airline information. Been fighting at work to get the time off to go to BA in 2 weeks. Have not made a reservation as yet, don't want to get stuck if I have to cancel. Will wait until end of week , and see how it goes. Keeping my fingers crossed, as this is a trip I really want to make...

Gabriel, If I do make it, lets hook up, I'll be at the "ETOLIE". e-mail me at "mrla4@earthlink.net

Stay Cool!
MRLA

Andres

01-21-03, 14:08

Gabriel:

You are somewhat close to Recoleta. From Las Heras Av and Scalabrini Ortiz Av to Las Heras Av and Azcuenaga St (1 block to the clubs) there are roughly 20 blocks. It should take 5-10 minutes with a cab, or you can take the bus# 60 for just ar$0.80, which goes straight through Las Heras Av.

Hope this helps.

Andres

ezy

01-21-03, 22:24

Gabriel. A full month? Wow! You will be a vet insdie of a week.....I arrive on the 11th for 11 days. I am staying in one of Saint's apartments on Libertador near Patio Bullrich. email me if you and we will set something up....unpocolocoenba@hotmail.com.
ezy

Hefe

01-22-03, 13:33

hola guys,
I have been in buenos aires and mar del plata this week. I am staying at the etoile right now. The etoile is ok. Guys, the exchange rate is now 3.1. When i was first here last week it was 3.21. looks like the exchange rate is falling for us. Anyways, a lot of people in Mar Del Plata right now. i wouldnt recommend it. they dont really have too many english speakers here. madahos is hit or miss. saint is right, blacks do have the best looking girls. well i have to cut this short and use the bano. guys, bring down a1 sause or worchister sause, i dont know how to spell that. steaks were somewhat bland, no sauce.

over and out

Saint

01-22-03, 16:04

Hefe,

Glad you had fun. I'm contemplating another trip to Buenos Aires soon and I just returned. I've been gone from work 5 weeks and thought I'd run into "issues" but other than the fact of having a mountain of paperwork on my desk and a ton of voicemails....everything is ok.

I guess it's nice to be a Rainmaker. Makes it very very difficult to fire someone that is making the company tons of dough.

Things were slow at the clubs in BA when I was there last week and probably will be until the end of January. Several girls are moving or contemplating moving to other countries (especially Brazil). We need more guys going to Buenos Aires. Like I said...no one will ruin the market there. Madaho's is definitely hit or miss. A few cuties but a lot of ugly older girls too.

Black's isn't full of all hotties but there are a higher majority of girls whom most of us mongers would deem "hot". You gotta be patient. Don't act like a rookie here. Tell them you've been here before and been to BA before even if you haven't. Tell them the last time you were here you only paid ______ pesos. The girls ALWAYS ask me for a pie in the sky number. Yes, I pay more than other clubs. Yes, the drinks here for girls are expensive (50 pesos). But I've always had a great session with the girls I've pulled from there.

It's funny because all these girls talk. The last girl I pulled out of there a few weeks ago said that her friend was telling her about a session I had with her and it was great. I don't care if it was true or not.....it got the price lower. Speaking at least some Spanish will also help in negotiating. Speaking zero spanish will be the equivalent of them saying they only know how to say D-O-L-L-A-R-S. Always pay in pesos here and other places.

I'll probably never hit Mar Del Plata now that I discovered Rio. I have so many girls phone numbers from all over Brazil now that I want to just travel throughout Brazil (Sao Paulo, Curituba, Porte Allegre, Belo Horizontal, etc.).

The peso is gaining strength. As I mentioned before, the worst is behind it for Argentina. Still will take time to get things in gear but the worst is over. Kind of sucks now that I have 3 apartments there and all the expenses are in pesos. I'm looking at 2 more apartments in the next few weeks. My apartment webpage should be done in 2 weeks. Email me if you're interested.... saintofba@aol.com

Saint

JackDaniels

01-22-03, 20:19

I know that the merits of Black has been discussed quite a bit on this board. I went there on two successive nights with every intention of pulling a Blacks girl out of there but did not see any that I considered to be "hot". OK, "hotness" is in the eye of the beholder but this beholder was not impressed and took off after one drink on both nights ! I went to Playwoman and found it much better and found my hottie straight off. However there did seem to be a few "girl next door" types in Blacks who were slightly appealing. Who knows after a few jacks and coke, the beer goggles would have been on and these may have become a lot more appealing and even "hot". In fact there was a "girl next door" type at Playwoman who spoke good English and I was sorely tempted to try out as she had a brilliant personality. I forget her name now but I will look out for her on my next trip. She had GFE written all over her.

Saint, I am not sure if I agree that more mongers will not ruin the place. Thailand in parts has attracted the wrong type of people and I would hate to see loud drunken types in BsAs, being obnoxious and fighting....yes we have these types here in the UK.

Saint, good luck with the apartments.

Cheers.

JohnGuapo

01-22-03, 21:31

I was in BA during late Nov. until mid December and wanted to give my final thoughts and recomendations.

First: rent an apartment as it gives you much more freedom to do want you want and the girls really like it as well. I stocked mine with champagne and whenever the girls came to visit, the would love the wine and make the visit that much better. I would go to the supermarket and have them deliver all of the stuff that I wanted - just remember your address and telephone #. Here is the person's name that rented me a cool apartment on Ayacucho directly behind the Etoile hotel for USD $250 per week.

Housing B.A.
Maria De la Paz Capurro (call her Paz)
housingba@aol.com
tell her that the fat American guy that rented the aprtment 9B on 1848 Ayacucho sent you. Didn't want to reveal John Guapo's real name!

An apartment will also give you the flexibility of bringing more than one girl up at a time (my max was 3 at a time) and virtually conduct interviews for the girls without any problems of being embarrassed in a hotel lobby.

Second: If you have an apartment, try the Clarin. I met probably the best girls via the Clarin. Young, 18-22 years old and very down to earth girls that always give the GFE experience. There will be a few dogs among the bunch, but if you tell the person that answers the add that you will return any fat, ugly or any girls that does not meet their description, then you will send them back. 95% percent of the time after telling them this, they sent the girl that they said. The normal price was 25 pesos to 45 pesos plus biatico or cab far that ranged around 7-10 pesos. The best experiences that I had were with these girls and would have 1, 2 or 3 if I wanted. They often liked my apartment so much and the champagne that they would stay longer for free or very little extra.

Regarding the clarin, obviously it helps if you speak a little spanish and are a little patient. Once you find a few girls, you can call them all you want. One tip, the shift seems to change at 8:00 pm and runs to almost 8:00 am the next day - that shift by in large had the best girls. If you call a girl at 11:00 am, you will have a greater probability of landing an old skank.

THird: clubs. Just stick with the posts here as they are very accurate, but again Nuevo Estillo was my favorite. Madahos was good as well.

Fourth: Internet Girls: If you like dark haired girls, that smell incredibly nice, with an incredible ass, and great BBBJ, the I recomend Leila from area-vip.com. She was a sweet girl, teeth were a little messed up but she was great in the sack and often did not want to leave. She would charge me $150 for an hour and a half of fun. She would blow me for 30 minutes and liked giving BBBJ.

Fofth: Shopping. Shoes - I bought hand made shoes from Lopez Taibo that is across the street from the ALvear hotel in the Recoleta for around $100 US. Everybody here in the US keeps commenting on much they like them. Great shoes that are are made very well. Av. Alvear 1902

Custom made shirts - I think Andres mentioned this several time, but Sir Greytton (Av. Santa Fe 1825 - 4813-4902) will custom make shirts from the 100s of bolt of imported cotton fabrics that they have for around $35 to $50 USD. I wear a big size, so mine might have been a little moer, but I bought 12 shirts with cuffs that are of excellent, excellent quality, fit and look. Also tell them that the fat American guy that they shipped the shirts to sent you. Very nice people. You will need a week or so to get them in time. I was so happy that I had them mail me six more to the US.

Suits - I went to Master on 1068 Av. Callou but did not like the fact that they didn't want to wait on me for around 20 minutes, then were kind of rude afterward and didn't like answering too many questions about the quality. Can't recomend them.

Agrest (1614 Gorostiaga - phone (54-11) 4775-9290)) made four , made to measure, super-nice wool (super 110's) suits with extra pants for me in five days. Carlos and Ricardo are really nice and will take enough time to pick out the right fabric, pattern and measure to make really nice suits. It also took three fittings as they want to do it right. Again, everybody here in the U.S. loves the suits and next time I go to BA, I will visit them again. The store is off of Libertador in the Palermo neighborhood about 10 minutes away from the recoleta. They also shipped me a suit as well.

Restaurants: All were pretty good, but if you want a good little neighborhhod place near the recoleta, visit El Yugo Parrila on Ayacucho 1629 near the intersection with Libertador. The steak is awesome and it is very inexpensive - about 22 pesos for a great Bife de Lomo, salad, chorizo, papas fritas and few drinks. My other favorites are Las Nazarenas (downtown), Filo (downtown on San Martin M.T. de Alvear) and the Munich in the recoleta near Etoile.

Mongers: my fellow mongers that I met in BA were also a pleasant surprise. All were very nice people and a pleasure to hang around with.

B69 is a true monger that was really cool to hang with during my last few days and is a fellow Nuevo Estillo fan. Also the chics in BA loved him.

JamesBond is a true monger legend in BA and is almost like the Yoda of teh hobby down there as he has the scene wired. Also speaks good Spanish.

Maddur is the most efficiant monger that I have ever seen. He is like a monger missile that locates the best girl and gets here to his pad ASAP. He is also a very good guy and we had good time together discussing chica strategy.

Nibu is the man. Who else could get laid in Peru for $0.80 USD. He was a different type of monger but really nice person.

DBoy - I keep waiting for some monster post from him as he is the official reporter of the AMA. He takes very good notes and is a student of the monger game.

There were a lot of others but I only know them by there real names so I will leave them out of the post. I almost forgot Jackson. Great guy that is very down to earth and fun to hang with. As expected, he is a true monger connoisseur that is a lot of fun to talk with and shares all of his funny stories.

Anyway, I will provide some good Viagra spots that I used to buy my Vitamin V and some other things. I am over my post-BA withdrawal/depression and am currently planning my next trip down. To all of the guys at the Thanksgiving day dinner and the fellow-monger that I didn't mention - see you in BA really soon.

lotsafun

01-22-03, 21:40

Originally posted by hefe
hola guys,
I have been in buenos aires and mar del plata this week. I am staying at the etoile right now. The etoile is ok. Guys, the exchange rate is now 3.1. When i was first here last week it was 3.21. looks like the exchange rate is falling for us. Anyways, a lot of people in Mar Del Plata right now. i wouldnt recommend it. they dont really have too many english speakers here. madahos is hit or miss. saint is right, blacks do have the best looking girls. well i have to cut this short and use the bano. guys, bring down a1 sause or worchister sause, i dont know how to spell that. steaks were somewhat bland, no sauce.

over and out
Next time try the steak au Champignon at Lola's a few doors from the Etoile. Also the Steak au Poivre at Cafe De La Paix a, a few doors in the other direction (right out of the eEoile and at the corner across the street. Both were much better than any of the other steaks I had along Ortiz.

JamesBond69

01-22-03, 22:38

Originally posted by saint

The peso is gaining strength

I think it's more that the dollar is losing strength. I expect the dollar will lose more in the near future, particularly if there is an invasion of Iraq, a likely scenario.

BA_Robert

01-22-03, 23:04

Some cut and paste from the Buenos Aires Herald:

"The peso continued to appreciate yesterday — an issue of increasing concern to the government — and closed at a nine-month high. Economy Ministry and Central Bank officials met yesterday to discuss a complete liberalization of the foreign exchange market, which they hope will keep the peso in check"

Don Johnson

01-22-03, 23:34

Johnguapo, great post, lots of usefull information!

I will have to buy both shoes, shirts and suits when I get there - if the quality is decent, it's a bargain. Can you tell me the price range for the suits?

DannyBoy32

01-23-03, 00:24

Hello fellow mongers! I just want to say I really appreciate all the info I've gleaned from this board, with a big shout out to Jackson! You run the best board and do so much for so many. Just hope someday I'll be able to meet up with you someday and buy you a drink or two chicas, lol. I'm heading to BA on Feb. 18th and am staying for ten days. I know I won't want to leave, as so many of you have posted about the post BA depression after returning home. It would be nice to hear from any mongers out there who'll be around BA in this timeframe to hook up and do a little mongering together. So far I've heard from a few vets via email and I greatly appreciate that!

I'll be in BA during those dates. Send me an email when you get in and we'll hook up.

Jackson

My questions to the board are:

1) From the airport, is it best to exchange your money outside with a private money vendor or what? I've heard conflicting views on this?

2) Planning on a private apartment, any good suggestions?

For apartment rentals you should contact Roxana. Her email and phone number are in the Announcements section.

Please email me @ danoh32@aol.com with ideas - ciao Danoh

EZE_Amante

01-23-03, 02:35

Just a quick note on the peso valuation. I've talked to several people that are currencies players, and read a lot of opinions, and the smart money seems to be saying that the peso strength will be short lived. Look for a weakening against the dollar as the elections approach in April, of course the impending oil exploration in Iraq can play some tricks with the value of the dollar, but the expectation is the 3.3 to 3.4 range.

I left BA with a few thousand pesos I didn't have time to change. Easiest money I've made in the last two months.

EZE

Guillermo

01-23-03, 02:42

johnguapo,

Thanks for the excellent post with all the detailed info. The only thing you missed was the address of the supermarket where you stocked up on provisions.

I'm thinking of renting an apartment myself when I'm down there and it would be nice to have that.

Guillermo

El Ricardo

01-23-03, 12:50

johnguapo,
Thanks for the great post....it reads like an instruction set. While I've travelled through BA several times a year for several years, this is my first entirely personal trip. I thought I understood everything I needed to know through my own explorations, but you guys have taken me to a whole new level!

I have been working with Francisca Lozano through Alojargentina.com to locate an apartment for my stay from the 7th through the 24th of February. I now have a "loft" on Alicia Moreau de Justo in Puerto Madero (U$S 550.00 + 10% commission) It looks pretty nice from the pictures on the web, but who knows. I do know that I like this area, its near the school I'll be attending, and I'm assured its a safe area.

To improve my ability to communicate while I'm there (I'll do my homework in the clubs!) I'm attending a language school through an organization I've used in the past. Four hours of class in the morning for two weeks. Cost: U$S 595.00. I just don't know what I'll do in the afternoons!

Regarding visits with chicas, I have normally gone through Platynum or more recently Escortsbaires. I've gone to dinner with Adriana (the webmistress for these two sites) a couple of times, and she steers me to Escortsbaires because its entirely free to the girls. Platynum gets some kickback from them. Normally its U$S 80 to U$S 100 for a two hour session. I've also tried using Clarin a few times and found it to be much cheaper, but hit and miss...will have to try johnguapo's technique. I'm not familiar with the clubs...yet.

It would be great to meet up with any of you who will be there during this time period. Let me kknow.
ER

Guillermo

01-23-03, 14:25

Originally posted by elricardo
Regarding visits with chicas, I have normally gone through Platynum or more recently Escortsbaires. I've gone to dinner with Adriana (the webmistress for these two sites) a couple of times, and she steers me to Escortsbaires because its entirely free to the girls. Platynum gets some kickback from them. Normally its U$S 80 to U$S 100 for a two hour session.

elricardo -

I just wanted to clarify something. I think you must mean the girls kickback 80 to 100 pesos, not dollars. If they have to kickback $100 USD per session, that would put their prices well beyond what my understanding is from this forum.

Guillermo

iseki

01-23-03, 16:43

E R
I am interested in the language school you mentioned as one day I would like to use that as an alibi to visit. I have been studing here to learn the ropes and find it to be wonderful, thank you all. All the info you wish to share will be appreciated.

JohnGuapo

01-23-03, 19:46

In continuation of my pervious posts and to answer some questions:

Viagra: I had never used it before coming to BA but since I was with probably 4 girls a day, I needed a little additional help. I would always buy the 100 miligrams of the Phizer because it was less costly and I didn't trust the local brand there. When you enter the pharmacy, ask for "cien miligramos de SILDELFEL de la marca Phizer". This way, you don't have to announce to the world that you are buying Viagra.

The pharmacies that I went to were not in the Recoleta. I had problems buying the vitamin V at chain pharmacies in the Recoleta because they would not sell it w/o a prescription. Soe here are two choices that I had 100% success with:

Farmacia Cientifica Blanchet
Av. RS Ortiz 3090 - tel. 4802-1418
package of four 100 miligrams Phizer was $69.93 pesos
This pharmacy is off of Avenida Heras about 5-7 minutes north of the main Recoleta restaurant row. Two guys were always there and they never even asked for a prescription.

Farmacia Varela
Cabello 3701
package of four 100 miligrams Phizer was $77.71 pesos
This pharmacy is two blocks off of Avenida Heras about 10 minutes north of the main Recoleta restaurant row. Just a little bit past previously listed pharmact. This pharmacy was a little bit busier and they would ask for a prescription, but always gave it to me without any problems.

You can also go to some of the farmacies on Florida downtown as well.

Regarding the suits at Agrest, they charged me $1,150 pesos for a custom made - made to measure suit of very high quality super 110's imported italian wool with two pairs of pants. At that time, it came out to around USD $320 (3.6 pesos per dollar). Again, I wear a size 58 suit, so most people will be a lot cheaper because they will use a lot less fabric. They also had a lot of off-the-rack suits that were even cheaper and just as nice. There is however, nothing better than a made to measure suit and shirt combo.

Grocery store: There is a store that is on Quintana (Dicos) near the corner of Callou that is about three blocks away from the main restaurant row & Etoile. Again, bring your apartment address and telephone as they can deliver your stuff to you. I was in an apartment so I bought about 20 bottles of champagne that cost about 10 pesos and wine 7-10 pesos. The girls absolutely loved that and I would also have some snacks for them and they really appreciated that as well and nromally would stay longer and provide much better service.

Clubs:
Do not go to the clubs that are on avenida Heras that are down the street from Madahos and across Puyiederron. There are two of them there and they will say it is free to enter and don't have to buy drinks, but then after you enter, they say you have to drinks for 20 pesos each. There is another that all of the cabbies try to recomend down the street on Heras (Puerto something) that sucks as well. That same person (according to Jackson) owns Tributo downtown - all of them suck, so don't waste your time. Madahos, Playwoman, Affaire (sometimes) are all closer and seem better.

Crocodilo: I went to this place one night about 4:30 am and it is kind of a dive and a place where all of the working girls that didn't get action at other places earlier, try one more time. It is not that nice, but I did pick up a girl there for $100 pesos for three hours. It is a bargain place, but probably not as reliable as the others and there are very few foreigners that frequent this place. I went by myself and was fine.

Nuevo Estilo: Antonela works there and usually does the three-way lesbo show. She charges pesos $100 to leave the place and you will have to pay the bar $75-$100 pesos. She is kind of skanky looking, but is incredible in bed and was probably the most passionate out of all of the girls that I had there. She gave me her number and would visit for $100 as well. B69 and Dboy picked up Leila, a very cute girl, with an incredible ass, so they probably reviewd her already.