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I love my Gatos and sometimes I game them to maintain my edge.
Has anybody read the book THE GAME by Neil Strauss or done any research into the art of Pick Up?
I saw that Real Social Dynamics that I did a workshop w in the USA started a locale in BA.
Some of my Arg friends in BA tell me that the Non Pro Arg chicks tend to be very feminist and probably nowhere near as much fun as Gatos but variety is the spice of life;)
Yes, I have read the book. I don't like to pay for sex nearly as much as win a girl. It is so much more rewarding.
That said, I have tried some of the techniques in the book. I think some of it works, some doesn't. The catstring theory definitely works. I don't know about the neg and it is hard to me to have the same sarcastic feel when negging.
What do you mean by "gatos"? Gatos to me means a gold-digger. I would love to attend any workshops of RSD or just go out and practice.
TejanoLibre
09-14-09, 23:51
I love my Gatos and sometimes I game them to maintain my edge.
Has anybody read the book THE GAME by Neil Strauss or done any research into the art of Pick Up?
I saw that Real Social Dynamics that I did a workshop w in the USA started a locale in BA.
Some of my Arg friends in BA tell me that the Non Pro Arg chicks tend to be very feminist and probably nowhere near as much fun as Gatos but variety is the spice of life;)I'm reading it now but at times I know that I could have written it!
Putting on workshops should be a breeze!
Think about it.
We have been doing this since junior high.
Take Care,
TL
The Game. Cool book, good read. But for an American Man over the age of 32 - 35; It is really not a Game - it's a "Crying Shame."
When I was 27, I could slice through a club like a sharp knife. (I suppose most of us could) But, uniquely in the US, the rules change 180 degrees when the clock strikes 35 ish. Sure, I can still date women that are hot in their 20's - but the effort and cost. God, I would rather start a steel mill.
That's where getting a passport changes the rules of the Game.
First of all, I want to be very clear that I know what a Gato is. Is it basically a gold-digger? If so, fine. But technically you wouldn't have to really "game" her if it's a gold-digger. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
Second, I am all about some free pussy. I know it's hard to get a quality one. If anyone is down, I would love to team up and go hunting. Even if we hunt Gatos. One thing to remember - I'm talking about getting a FINE woman here. I don't know about everyone's standards, but I'm not trying to get just some girl that is easy because you are slicing through a club. We all know the good ones take work, and I'm ready for it.
I was thinking about trying it up in the northern area (San Isidro, Olivos) I hear the girls there are blonde, rich and intelligent.
Would anyone like to help me out?
I was thinking about trying it up in the northern area (San Isidro, Olivos) I hear the girls there are blonde, rich and intelligent.Good luck Stylito. What you hear is true, but you will have to bring something to the table beyond chamullos. "La billetera gana" holds very true in those parts.
Just a quick word (or 200) on the word "gato":)
I find every time that I see someone referring to the word "gato" in relation to a female I find it a little funny, but I don't laugh about it out loud because I understand how difficult it can be to remember that adjectives and many nouns in Spanish have a feminine form and a masculine form. Even being about 80% fluent in Spanish myself, I often make the mistake when talking. Funny enough, I also hear native Spanish speakers at times make the same mistake when talking, at least as far as which article (el, la, etc) they use in conjunction with a word.
"Gato" is a male cat. "Gata" is a female cat. It's like dogs as well - I'm sure you've heard people use the word "perra" for "b i t c h", because "perro" is masculine and "perra" is femine (literally translates to "b i t c h" in reference to a female dog)
Another thing about the words "gato" and "gata."
My understanding of the use of the word, at least here in Argentina, doesn't mean a working girl who is a gold digger (if the word "gata" is used)
Really, the phrase is more apt with men (as "gatos") who are "on the prowl" for chicas, whether it be for pay, for free, or what have you. A Gato is a guy who is chasing chicas.
So a "Gata" would be closer to what we in English call a "cougar", or a woman (in this sense probably a bit older) who is on the prowl for younger guys.
A common word for a working girl, which would also indicate that she is a gold-digger, would be "puta." Every working girl who does it for a living and not for fun or part time (and certainly many who are part-time or doing it for fun as well) would love to be in the position of gold-digger.
Problem with the word puta is that it is not real nice and is also used as curses. I don't know if there is a "softer" word for a working girl/gold digger.
But Hubbster, we all understood what you meant when you said "I love my gatos".;)
My first trip down, I was with a couple of buddies and Roxanna set us up with three working girls for a night out on the town. We were having dinner at Asia de Cuba and talking about life in the US when I said "Tengo tres gatos" meaning that I had three cats in at home. All three of the girls instantly cracked up and I'm "What? What?" until one of them explained that it was obvious I had tres gatos at that very moment.
As I understand it, while "gatos" is the masculine form, it is used when referring to females.
From an on-line slang dictionary,
" gato [m] 1 (grammatically masculine, meaning 'cat', semantically feminine) female escort, prostitute; a woman that dresses and / or behaves like a prostitute; 2 toupee or wig, especially one that doesn't pass for real hair."
http://argentineslang.wordpress.com/g/
Just a quick word (or 200) on the word "gato":)
I find every time that I see someone referring to the word "gato" in relation to a female I find it a little funny, but I don't laugh about it out loud because I understand how difficult it can be to remember that adjectives and many nouns in Spanish have a feminine form and a masculine form. Even being about 80% fluent in Spanish myself, I often make the mistake when talking. Funny enough, I also hear native Spanish speakers at times make the same mistake when talking, at least as far as which article (el, la, etc) they use in conjunction with a word.
"Gato" is a male cat. "Gata" is a female cat. It's like dogs as well - I'm sure you've heard people use the word "perra" for "be I t c h", because "perro" is masculine and "perra" is femine (literally translates to "be I t c h" in reference to a female dog)
Another thing about the words "gato" and "gata."
My understanding of the use of the word, at least here in Argentina, doesn't mean a working girl who is a gold digger (if the word "gata" is used)
Really, the phrase is more apt with men (as "gatos") who are "on the prowl" for chicas, whether it be for pay, for free, or what have you. A Gato is a guy who is chasing chicas.
So a "Gata" would be closer to what we in English call a "cougar", or a woman (in this sense probably a bit older) who is on the prowl for younger guys.
A common word for a working girl, which would also indicate that she is a gold-digger, would be "puta." Every working girl who does it for a living and not for fun or part time (and certainly many who are part-time or doing it for fun as well) would love to be in the position of gold-digger.
Problem with the word puta is that it is not real nice and is also used as curses. I don't know if there is a "softer" word for a working girl / gold digger.
But Hubbster, we all understood what you meant when you said "I love my gatos".;)My understanding is it refers in Argentina to working girls. When discussing men it means a homosexual male. These are the colloquial uses.
Argento
Well, I stand corrected and have to wonder about the girls who have explained to me the difference between a Gato (a male cat) and a puta (a female prostitute) and a puto either an asshole or a homosexual male.
In my defense, as far as colloquialisms go, I do communicate on these subjects more with Paraguayas than Portenas.
Well, I stand corrected and have to wonder about the girls who have explained to me the difference between a Gato (a male cat) and a puta (a female prostitute) and a puto either an asshole or a homosexual male.
In my defense, as far as colloquialisms go, I do communicate on these subjects more with Paraguayas than Portenas.Hello El Queso:
It is interesting how many possible meanings can a word (gata in this case) have, however I think the following words could work as possible synonims.
Cortesana: Basically a *****, since she provides sexual services for money but usually she has more grace and class than most providers, and of course she will charge accordingly.
Acompañante: An escort lady who may or not provide pussy.
Golfa or golfita: Could translate as tramp, or a woman who lives of the money she receives from intimate friends but not necessarily from strangers. It also could mean a woman who gives sex in return from other type of non monetary -I mean in cash- favors (example, getting a job, or durable goods such as cars, jewelry, travels, etc) A gold digger basically.
Movida: Basically a lover who becomes your sexual friend in return of dinners, travels, jewels, etc. In rare cases she could do it pro bono.
Fichera: In my country a woman who dances with customers for money, usually a ficha or chip which she exchanges for money in the same bar.
All these terms could be useful to describe gatas, and if you could share some paraguayan terms if would be most grateful.
I will end with a national saying which goes: "Carne buena why barata la de la gata" (If you want good and cheap meat, get a gata) No comment necessary.
There was a recent post where EXON mentioned that 90% of mongering is Fantasy. In that thread, he clarified that fantasy to be "believing the service provider is a girl friend, or is liking it as much as the man, or would do it if there were no money involved. He also was clear that a clientèle relationship can become friendly and two can enjoy sincerely, but, accordingly to him 90% would never happen if it were not for the financial transaction. In the context in which he speaks, I agree 1000%
This is a topic that is understood and contemplated by the amateur and pro mongerer alike.
Lance, and Niel, and the Art of Seduction is about the other 10% ONLY. In their world, the woman would PAY for the man.
So, the term gato - graceful woman, pro or no pro, that feels attracted to the man and compelled to act - or possess him - is what THE GAME (the book) is all about.
A man must have "game" to be attracted by the gato. Think of what it must be like to be Tom Brady for a night. I imagine there are many "gatos" in his world pro; non-pro; BA; or New York City.
The rest of all fall somewhere down hill, I presume. Including Lance Mason and Niel Strauss
Guys, I'm not gonna lie. I haven't been having much luck with the non-pro's. I feel ashamed and like a failure. I don't know what it is. I thought I had more game that I do is one explanation (being that where I am from I got more pussy because it was a college town and I was in a good social circle blah blah blah those girls are easy) Another explanation is that I don't interpret the way these girls act very well. I have heard they won't show if they are attracted to you. I don't know if that is un mito argentino or not. I have done some chubby girls that I have taken out of Museo, but I want a fine woman. (This is during a span of a year here) I want a gf so I can practice my spanish all the time as well. I need to improve my game, if anyone wants to go practice in the field, let me know.
So, I normally would go to Madahos, or use the internet websites to find pros.
And here is my report. I hope it helps.
I have been here for about 15 months. One thing I love is the massage with happy ending. One of the best I ever had was with Amira from todomasajes. I came so hard that the jizz went back over my head. I didn't know I was capable of that.
I know this post should be somewhere else, but as I said, I want to get better with the non-pros so I wish to post here because this is what I will be reading. Feel free to post it somewhere else or I can when I finish.
I have been to the massage place at Corrientes 818 like 7 times. One girl that works there is Pamela from Todomasajes. Don't get her. The hj is horrible. It's like she just wants to get it over with. She doesn't put much into it. I had a paraguayan girl there. She gave a great hj / massage but wasn't as pretty. I forget her name. In case you don't know, it's 100 pesos an hour there with an hj. I've gotten an extra blow job on top for 50 pesos more but I had to work her down. I told her I only had 50 pesos. That strategy seems to work, but it's only a bj with a condom. I guess I'm supposed to say CBJ. I feel so mongerish now.
Now, I'm about to be really unselfish. Yael from todomasajes. Com is the absolute best massuese that I have experiences. It doesn't get any better. Who cares how much it costs just go there. It's on Rodriguez Pena. Definitely try to blow a load before you go so you last longer. I hope I can still get an appointment with her now.
I also had Naty from todomasajes. I feel like she is overrated a little. It was good, but not that good. I'm going to submit this and continue just to make sure this doesn't get lost
Another girl I thought was so F****** hot was Caren from bairesgirls. Com. 200 pesos. It was near the Tribunales subway stop on line D. Sex was good, but it's just that she is so hot that I wanted to do all the work. Great CBJ. Trust me on this. Just go.
There was one girl on escortsbuenosaires like 8 months ago that was so fine. I called her and when I met her at her apartment downtown, she immediately started to give me a BBBJ. I believe she was new because it felt like she was just a normal girl who was good at sex. I can't find her anymore. If anyone has suggestions on how to find these newbies, let me know. I just got lucky. If I find her, I'll let yall know.
Also, one club I went to, I think it was Shampoo, has a girl named Carolina. She is Paraguayan, blonde, and skinny. She is about a 7-8. What makes her special is the sex itself. She is really good at it. I recommend her. Her number is 11-6132-2982. I have done her many times. So now, I don't ever go to those clubs I just call her directly. 200 pesos. One time I did coke with her and we went all night long - like 10 hours. Literally the best night of my life as far as sex goes. Wow. I paid more to get a BBBJ but she didn't perform exactly like she does when you're covered. She says she's scared of disease.
Also, I really hate all those boliches. You have to deal with so much BS. It's way too much of a professional feel. I had one girl get a phone call and had to leave because she said it was her boyfriend. She was crying but I think it was all staged. That was how I learned to never pay up front - the hard way. I made her give me head to finish me off. I'm not kidding when I say we need to boycot the boliches. All you have to do is get on the internet and call those girls.
Oh also about Carolina, she doesn't do anal but one time I just stuck it in there and didn't stop. She walked like a duck afterwards and said it had been 6 years without cola. So, just put it in the pooper.
Trying to think of other things that have happened over the past year.
FYI, Pilar on Escortsbaires. Com does NOT look the same in real life. I don't know how those pictures were made.
I want Abby from the same website, but every time I call it doesn't work out.
There is a massage place on esmeralda (I know there are 2, I just can't remember which one) with a blonde girl that is a little thick. Great sensual massage. It's not a very good massage, but very erotic. At the end she starts to lightly stroke you from head to toe with the tips of her fingers before the incredible finish. It's an amazing feeling. I'm looking for her now.
Here's another great massuese who no one ever writes about: Fer / Fernanda from todomasajes. She's at Corrientes 818 now but I've been seeing her since she was over on Rodriguez Pena, in the same building that Yael works but on a different floor. (Yes, I thought this was odd, so, one day I asked and the girl said she had no idea there was another massage place upstairs, which was Yael's, then she started to give me an even better massage, she got really competitive and it was better) So, as we all know, girls are competitive, so it MAY help to tell them that you have had some great massages "around here". Just a thought. So, Fernanda is great and it's only 100 pesos. Never gone beyond the hj but plan to.
Anyone have any idea why they would be in the same building? Maybe the "pimp" or manager owns both the apartments.
Another question: What's the deal with Corrientes 818? For some strange reason, I think the whole hotel has a lot more than just the massage place. The last time I was there, 2 weeks ago, I was leaving and on the bottom floor I saw three FINE girls but they were dressed very sexily. Sometimes you just know that a girl is a puta. I think more girls work there or something. It seems like something a local would know. Very interesting. It's also interesting how anyone can just walk into the building during the day and go to whatever floor you want. No other hotels are like that here that I know of. All suspicious and I want to find those 3 girls I saw there. It has to be a hotel just for F***ing.
Okay guys, I just found the girl that has the great massage ending. The one that uses the tips of her fingers VERY well. It's Marina from gemidos. Her foto isn't that great but the massage is top notch as far as erotic. She's not going to help your lower back pain though.
Okay guys, go get 'em! I hope this helps.
Also, if anyone has tips on chasing portenas (non-working that is) please let me know.
So, who has tried my recommendations. Let me know how it went. COME ON!
That's where getting a passport changes the rules of the Game.Thats the goal, flip the rules so the chicks Chase you;)
Neil found that out at the end of the book when he had a huge BDay party and all the chicks were wondering who he was to have so many friends.
I love BA bcus the rules all change.
American women are awful and full of contempt for men.
These days in my 40s I'm so tired of girlfriends and all their BS all I want to do is have a nice harem of smoking hot Gatos who come and pamper me then leave me alone.
BA rocks
Guys, I'm not gonna lie. I haven't been having much luck with the non-pro's. I feel ashamed and like a failure. I don't know what it is. I thought I had more game that I do is one explanation (being that where I am from I got more pussy because it was a college town and I was in a good social circle blah blah blah those girls are easy) Another explanation is that I don't interpret the way these girls act very well. I have heard they won't show if they are attracted to you. I don't know if that is un mito argentino or not.
I need to improve my game, if anyone wants to go practice in the field, let me know.Don't worry, Be happy:) You sound rather young, how old are you?
When I was at the top of my game I figured my succes rate from opening to bed was about 20% , not phenomenal but I did get some fine chicks so I wasn't too upset.
A Super important rule is that game is about the numbers. If you want to be a master you need to go out and open 50 chicks a day, every day.
The shotgun approach is a winner, Put together a basic game conversation and if it works you can reuse the same one every time. The more chicks you talk to the better your odds of getting your fine chica. But why settle for 1 when BA has so many fine Gatos?
There is nothing more unpredictable than a woman so another important rule is that when you open you don't care about the outcome. You have to not care if she's PMSy, bitchy, or if she grabs you and takes you home with her. Once she understands that you don't care this will make you less creepy, needy, and much more attractive.
Speaking of bitchy you can always expect a woman to throw up a ***** test at you. She is testing you, she wants to see how you deal with pressure bcus if she chooses you as a mate she expects you to protect her so she needs to know how you handle pressure. If you stand your ground and allow her ***** test to flow around you or deflect it with some jokes she'll find you much more attractive.
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