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I will be in Brazil for the month of September and plan to take a week to visit Buenos Aires from there. I have two questions: One, is a week a good time for a first time? And two, any recommendations for a hotel in the less-than-$90 range for a first-timer? I've heard Recoleta is the place to stay, and one peson recommended the Etoile Hotel. Thanks!
MeGustaBoliches
07-20-03, 07:21
DocBill,
There are tons of choices in the under 90dollar a night category...ranging from 10 dollar a night clean sheets and hotwater specials to some really special aparthotels and trendy hotels at the upper end of the range.....
My personal choices:
NH City or Jousten (under 75 plus tax) http://www.nh-hoteles.com
Belair. (under 50)http://www.hotelbelair.com.ar/
NH Hotels are the W hotels of South America...stylish...
BelAir is in a good location near Plaza Vincinte Lopez....and is newly refurbished.....
Other very good choices include:
http://www.artsuites.com.ar
http://www.designsuites.com
http://www.mayla.com.ar
http://www.hojoar.com/hoteles/florida/reservas.htm
http://www.dazzlerhotel.com/
http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/ex/hd/BUEPT?_franchisee=BUEPT¤tBrandId=EX;jsessionid=PR44WKMN4QH5JJICRZLSHPVFAKHDGIY4
All are located either in Recoleta or downtown, the two primary areas for hobbyists. None are more than a 3-4peso cab ride away from the night time action....
You mentioned the Etoile..the primary advantage of the Etoile is location, right in the heart of Recoleta's restuarant row and less than a five minute walk from half a dozen of the chica clubs....on the downside the beds are lousy and the whole place needs to be refurbished.....
Register as a double to avoid hassles bringing in chicas.
You might also consider using Mayra www.argentinago.com to help with your reservations. She can save you time and normally she can save you money as well. She can also take care of nagging little details such as airport transportation and cell phone rental or a city tour....for your mongering needs, use Roxanne...she will set you up with chicas for a fee of 10dollars....very useful for first timers and those who speak minimal Spanish.
Thank you so much, MGB! Do you guys think a week is a good length of time for a first visit? I also see that many of you do use Roxanne for hobbying. I do speak Spanish, and I'm wondering if other than the language there would be any advantage to using her. In general I prefer to find my own. Please advise, and thanks!
OutoftheGame
07-20-03, 17:41
Doc,
My first trip to BA was 1 month, and my second was only 10 days. I don't think 1 week is long enough. If you can fit in another week I would do so. If you read so of the old posts you'll find that alot of guys would plan on staying a week and when they arrive and see how great it is they do everything they can to extend their vacation.
MeGustaBoliches
07-20-03, 22:12
Doc,
I have been to BsAs 10 times in two years. My first few trips were measured in days.....now they are measured in months....3 months on my last trip was not nearly enough......
BsAs is a wonderful city and Argentina is a wonderful country...though it should be said that the appeal here is more to hobbyists who like getting laid while on vacation than to hobbyists who vacation to get laid.
The quisissental trip to Argentina is more than sex alone. It is as much aesthetic as sensual; as much gastronomic as prurient. Pack your bags for a long stay if catching vibrant nonhobbying nightlife and exploring the charms of daytime Buenos Aires in between sessions with chicas appeals to you....and do take a couple of extra days to visit the Argentine countryside, whether to the ski slopes, Patagonia, Iguazu Falls, or simply a day trip to an estancia near Buenos Aires.....
I just stayed at the LoiSuites in Recoletta for 10 days. Strongly recommended. I stayed in one of their suites. Got a got a good rate through Mayri. The suites are not huge, but nicely decorated and very comfortable. It was quiet. No noise from neighbors or the outside. Large bed. Conveniently located, 3 blocks from Madahos, and 4 blocks from Black. More generally close to all nightly action. They are exceptionally girl-friendly. When I brought girls in at night, they didn't even have to register. I brought in three girls at a time, two girls, one girl, no objections. During the night the doorman and the receptionist can help you communiate with girls, they even showed me pictures of girls they offered to call for me. Very friendly crowed. In general an excellent place (though, not for those on a tight budget).
I've been in touch with Mayra, and she strongly recommends LoiSuites Recoleta. Does anyone have any experience with this hotel? Thanks!
OutoftheGame
07-24-03, 19:10
Doc,
First of all you can't go wrong with Mayra, she's the best at helping with all of your travel needs. Secondly I stayed at LoiSuites on my first visit to BA for a couple of nites. It is a very nice hotel and in a great location. It is a little more pricey than most hotels but I'm sure Mayra is getting you a good deal. The other great thing about this place is they are very open minded when it comes to girls visiting your room. Infact they have an older gray haired gentleman that well help set you up with girls if you tell him waht your looking for. I don't remember his name since I did not use his service but I think others have mentioned him before. IF you do stay at this place don't be suprised when you get the key to your room and you don't know how to use it. Sorry but I had never seen keys like this before. They will give you an odd shaped object and all you do is place it in front of the door and the door will open. For me it was very different. The good thing is the key that I had was like a money clip so it came in handy.
Thanks for the input, guys! How does Art Suites compare with LoiSuites, or does it?
Doc,
Another thing to keep in mind about LuiSuites: The Asian guy at the reception desk in the evening speaks English (the old gray haired guy: minimal English) and has extensive knowledge of the escort scene. He showed me pictures of girls and offered to make phone calls for me. No doubt hoping to get a tip. One of the girls he suggested was Andrea. I had already met her at Black and seen her a couple of times.
Thanks Fedora, and others! Do you know about any other hotels in Recoleta (where I was told I should stay?). How about ArtSuites? Is that in Recoleta? I've heard of the Etoile but it sounds like a dump.
MiddleAgeGuy
07-27-03, 10:32
"I've heard of the Etoile but it sounds like a dump."
DocBill, The Etoile is not a dump, but is in high need of a reno in the rooms to get out of the 70's decor; you might think you are at the Formans'. It is very nicely situated in Recoleta, looks good to walk in, I'm sure any other hotelier would love to have its' location.
For all these places, including ArtSuites, look at the web sites. They all look bettter on the web but they are true and give you an idea.
On BA site, Andrea, thanks for the tip on the Pacifico; I have been there after 6 a couple times but I guess my eyes were not open.
MAG
Doc,
About ArtSuites vs LuiSuites: I haven't stayed at ArtSuites, but asked Mayri this very question a month ago. According to her, LuiSuites is in a different league from ArtSuites, ie LS is MUCH better than AS. But that's second hand info.
MeGustaBoliches
07-28-03, 13:02
Doc,
Loisuites vs Artsuites....Loisuites is more like a botique hotel...artsuites an aparthotel....
Loisuites advantages...
location....just around the corner from the village of recoleta...Artsuites is 5-6 blocks away...
services...loisuites is more of a full service hotel
Age...Artsuites is nearly new, but Loisuites is even newer....
Advantages of Artsuites...
price....about 30 per night less expensive
size...a true one bedroom, vs a "jr" suite at LoiSuites...
both are good choices IMO
GRAN HOTEL ARGENTINO?
Anybody familiar with the Gran Hotel Argentino? I looked at their web site, and they are right on the Avenida de Mayo. Very attractive rates at USD20/night for single/double. Seems very convenient. But the flip side is that, being right on the Avenida, the noise levels can be pretty terrible.
Originally posted by Novio
GRAN HOTEL ARGENTINO?
Anybody familiar with the Gran Hotel Argentino? I looked at their web site, and they are right on the Avenida de Mayo. Very attractive rates at USD20/night for single/double. Seems very convenient. But the flip side is that, being right on the Avenida, the noise levels can be pretty terrible.
Assuming you mean the Gran Hotel Vedra, Avenida de Mayo 1350, it is very close to my apt so I checked it out for you. I was favorably impressed. Actually for single there are three rates: 38 pesos faces the Avenida = noisy. 50 pesos interior room with TV (fairly small) and music (stereo speakers in the walls, and I think it is digitl radio or something like that). 55 pesos gets you a bathtub in addition to a shower. I looked at a 50 peso room with twin beds. They also have some with double beds. The double price is a bit more, I forget, but CHEAP. The place was squeaky clean and has a nice lobby. Check in at 1 PM, check out at noon. Credit cards accepted at no extra charge. 20% discount if you stay 4 nights or more. Very nice desk clerks (guys though). Price includes tax and continental breakfast (7 AM to 11 AM). Snack bar until 11:30PM but 24 horu room service. Menu prices: Beer 2.20 pesos, ham and cheese sandwich 2.70 or 3.20, chicken 4.20, lomo completo 6.20.
Drawback was the beds were very soft and squishy, although one less so than the other.
Hope this helps. Seems like a great deal to me and maybe the double beds are firmer or maybe you are one of those who likes a soft bed. I can't stand 'em for more than one night.
Dickhead,
Thanks for the reply. The hotel you describe sounds OK, and might be worth checking out, but the one I was asking about is indeed called Gran Hotel Argentino, address is Carlos Pellegrini 37.
It's web page is www.hotel-argentino.com.ar
I haven't decided where I'll stay yet. I have had similar price quotes from the Hotel Marbella, and Hotel Hispan, as well as an apartment possibility.
Originally posted by Novio
Dickhead,
Thanks for the reply. The hotel you describe sounds OK, and might be worth checking out, but the one I was asking about is indeed called Gran Hotel Argentino, address is Carlos Pellegrini 37.
It's web page is www.hotel-argentino.com.ar
I haven't decided where I'll stay yet. I have had similar price quotes from the Hotel Marbella, and Hotel Hispan, as well as an apartment possibility.
Well, that is also right in the "hood" so I will check it out on my way to the gym tomorrow. PS I think Gran Hotel Vedra is much nicer than the Marbella.
Originally posted by DocBill449
Thanks Fedora, and others! Do you know about any other hotels in Recoleta (where I was told I should stay?). How about ArtSuites? Is that in Recoleta? I've heard of the Etoile but it sounds like a dump.
I've stayed in one of the Diplomatic Suites at the Etoile and I was very satisfied with the suite, especially the large whirpool tub, big enough for a duplas or festa. While the wall decorations aren't hip like a primo Miami Beach or NYC hotel. Where in those cities could you get a 900 sq. ft. suite with Whirlpool tub, three rooms, a "Central park" type view, with Swimming pool for, at the time, $65 a night? More like $5-600+ a night, I suspect.
Gran Hotel Argentino on C. Pelligrini is run down. There is heavy building construction next door with metal fabrication, etc. Beds were lumpy. Menu is fixed rather than a la carte and at 10 pesos without drink is not competitive. Staff unfriendly. Not recommended.
Dickhead,
Thanks for the scouting report. Looks like a pass on Gran Hotel Argentino.
Yankee Trader
08-06-03, 03:49
Hi Guys,
Just thought I'd offer a brief report on the Four Seasons, formerly the Hyatt. Five blocks frrom Blacks, and close to almost everything you might need or want. They have a very nice bar, a great place to enjoy a scotch and a cuban cigar.
Like almost all Four Seasons, their trademark is service; you want something, just ask and chances are they will deliver.
Got a great 1 bedroom king suite, with a sitting room, dining table for 4, good size work desk and a bathroom with separate shower as well as a jacuzzi tub for 2. I got a good rate, 3 nights for the price of two, about $1100 including taxes, with Mayra's help. Included was round-trip transportation from the airport, breakfast each day and a couple of other things I didn't use.
They also offer wireless, high-speed internet access in the room at $10/day, very convienent.
As far as the ladies, the must sign in downstairs, but just let one of the doorman know who's coming and he will take care of it and escort the lady to your room.
For those of you on an expense account, I think it's the best in town. It isn't for everyone, but you only live once, so live a little guys and treat yourself right every once in awhile. Of course, you may disagree, but hey, to each, his own.
Originally posted by lotsafun
I've stayed in one of the Diplomatic Suites at the Etoile .......you get a 900 sq. ft. suite with Whirlpool tub, three rooms, a "Central park" type view, with Swimming pool for, at the time, $65 a night? .......
With the exchange rate @2.7 Peso per dollar during June, it was more like $90 a night inclusive of all taxes. This is my favorite place to stay in Recoleta, not only because of its location but mainly because of the avaiability of the Jacuzi in the Diplomatic Suite (other suites at Etoile don't have this). It can accommodate 3 persons easily and that's speaking from experience. Chicas love it.
Bandy
Yankee Trader,
You're absolutely right. The Four Seasons is one of the best hotels in Buenos Aires. It's perfect for those that are in BA for business and their companies are paying for their stays. For all others it probably doesn't make sense. It along with the Alvear Palace are the two poshest hotels in BA, IMHO. Both are not cheap though. Also, although as you mentioned the door men can arrange a relatively hassleless trip for the chica to come to your room, you do have to be discreet and it helps to arrange it ahead of time. I know some guys that stayed here and they always had to grease the front doormen pretty good. I was in Buenos Aires when they had the South American Summit and this is the hotel that Fidel Castro and many of the presidents of the South American countries stayed.
This hotel is right around the corner from my apartment so I can vouch for how great the location is. It's nice to hear reports about the cheap and the expensive places in BA.
Have fun all.
Rick Anderson
08-14-03, 21:04
Could anyone offer any updated comments on the Hilton? The only entry I read on the forum was a brief one on November 2002.
Thanks to all in advance.
JustGotBack
10-03-03, 21:31
Has anyone stayed at the BEST WESTERN COMFORT HOTEL on Viamonte or the SARMIENTO PALACE HOTEL. Both are in the $25 range and I was wondering if they are guest friendly.
I stayed at the Murano last weekend as suggested by Mayra. It's a nice, new hotel located on Carlos Pellegrini right by Cafe Excedra. The staff was friendly and the rooms were good sized. A standard room with a view of Av 9 de Julio as U$ 83 including breakfast and a free high speed Internet connection. I had a 2 room suite with a balcony for U$ 135. There was a problem with the reservation when we checked in (they had me down for a regular room) but a quick phone call to Mayra and things got fixed in a hurry. I'd rate it somewhere between a Marriott and a Hyatt in the U.S.
Girls has to register and they wouldn't let me take two up at once but other than that, no problems.
Arranged an escorted trip to the football game on Sunday through the hotel. That was an interesting experience and I recommend it.
I was quite happy with the work that Mayra did and highly recommend using her for your travel arrangements.
As an aside, I stayed at four hotels in South America and all four had free high speed Internet access. US hotels are getting their butts kicked in this area.
I'm making my first visit to BA in January for nine nights. I'd appreciate some help from the experienced BA crowd as I try to decide whether to stay in an apartment vs. a hotel.
In Moscow, an apartment makes the hobby much easier because of the strict security in many of the hotels. Plus, the hotels are much more expensive.
I have located a girl-friendly hotel that I thought was reasonably priced, UNTIL I realized how inexpensive the apartments are.
So, if anyone out there has some insight into this situation I would appreciate your thoughts.
CA traveler,
Sir Jackson has the best apt in town...Check his website..
Have fun,
MRLA
MeGustaBoliches
10-07-03, 17:33
CA Traveler.....
Apartments have advantages and disadvantages....
Advantages....cost per day is generally much lower than for a hotel. Space....usually an apartment lets you spread out more....Kitchen....you can store things in your refrigerator and cook, if only in your microwave.....
Disadvantatages...daily maid service generally is not included....no breakfast buffet....no restaurant or room service....and the other ammenties associated with a hotel....security deposits are sometimes required and a bit of a hassle....cancellations can create more problems than with a hotel....etc....
The issue of chica friendliness is a wash....most hotels in BA are chica friendly, especially if you register as a double.
Personally, I prefer apartments or aparthotels such as Art Suites over a hotel....and I would say that if you have a fair command of Spanish, the advantages of an apartment outweigh the disadvantages.....but it depends on what you want...more space/lowercost or more services/fewer hassles....
A word to the wise....whichever you choose, get a place with good air conditioning...BA is warm and humid in January.....
MGB, thanks for the thoughtful response.
I'll let you know how it goes.
Let me know if you ever need help in EE or Russia!
ArtSuites offers the best of both sides - an apartment with daily maid service, front desk type service for check in/out, coffee/juice/danish delivered to your room each day, and no weekly security deposit.
Plus, it's in great location (Azcuenega & Frech/Juncal) in a residential neighborhood that will make you feel like your a local (the opposite of staying at the Etoile).
So for those looking for this type of stay, it's perfect.
Member #1121
10-11-03, 03:36
Hello everyone,
Has anyone any info. on this hotel:
Embajador / Carlos Pelegrini 1181/85
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Located in the 9 de Julio Av., known as the widest avenue in the world. Close to the elegant Santa Fe Avenue.
How close/far is it from the main action and other stuff?
Any info. would be highly apreciated.
Thanks.
One Tree Hill
10-28-03, 22:26
Anyone know about these two?
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Has anyone stayed at the BEST WESTERN COMFORT HOTEL on Viamonte or the SARMIENTO PALACE HOTEL. Both are in the $25 range and I was wondering if they are guest friendly.
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I have a tentative res at the BW
Jimbehr2000
10-30-03, 04:45
I stayed at two hotels while in BA two weeks ago. Crowne Plaza at Pedestrian Street Lavelle and Carlos Pelligrini and the famous Etoile in Recoleta. I am surprised there isn't more talk about Crowne Plaza here. Its an excellent hotel with good service and good rooms. The Crowne website frequently runs specials. I booked my room through their website and the rate was US $79 per night including a good, free breakfast buffet. Crowne is very well located to the downtown clubs and cafes. I had a nice view of the Obelsik from my room window.
Its hard to add much new info about Hotel Etoile for this group. Thanks to Mayra for booking this hotel for me at a rate of 198p/night for their Diplomat Suite. I would not hesitate to use her services in the future. I was wary of staying here because most reviews indicated the place was well worn. It is indeed well worn. But the Diplomatic suite is very, very large imho. Every girl I brought to the the room was very impressed with the room. I had a great time with one girl my last night in the large jacuzzi tub. My room had a balcony overlooking the Cemetary entrance. This view has to be the best in BA. The downside to being on the cemetary side of the hotel is the noise from the bars and restaurants below. Since I always went to bed at about 5AM this wasn't a problem for me. I only had a few gripes about this hotel. First is the fact that taxis have trouble finding it. I had the desk clerk write directions on their business card to alleviate this problem. The second issue involved their electrical plugs. I didn't have any adaptors that fit their electrical outlets. Their outlets required a different adaptor than hte BA Crowne Plaza. Fortunately the hotel sent someone out to buy an adaptor for me. I wound up paying about 6p for the adaptor. The bed room section of the suite was rather small but the bed and pillows were confortable for me. I would stay at this hotel again due to its central location in Recoleta and the large size of the Diplomat suite. I did not look at any regular rooms so I can't comment on them.
Logan Lurker
10-31-03, 15:24
Hi All,
Am headed to BA in a few weeks for work. I will be staying at El Américas Towers on Libertad 1070 in Recoleta (sp ?).
I'm a cherry monger (is that possible?) who's seeking the best first time possible - so I've saved myself for BA! I've contacted Roxanna for help and feel well taken care of so far.
Couple questions for you:
1) Anyone know my hotel? Is it nice? Any problems you can think of?
2) Any full service massage places near there with an English speaking front desk at least?
3) Any english speaking apartments with chicas I can visit?
I know you will tell me in part to RTFF, however I'm sure you're aware that the Argentina section is simply sprawling at this point so maybe you'll give me so quick advice and help.
For what its worth I'll post a report aimed at ignorant gringos (who better than me?)....
Thanks!
The Lurk
I hate to add to the sprawl with this response to Logan, but I can tell him this:
America's Towers Hotel is a very nice looking hotel. It has an excellent location about halfway between the club areas of Recoleta and El Centro. Both are about 12 blocks, an easy walk day or night with a little caution.
Most hotels are chica friendly. You may have to register as a double to bring in a visitor. The best thing to do is ask if it is necessary to register as a double to have a visitor. In the interest of men's rights, I would be prepared to change hotels if I didn't like the answer. In fact, you might call first. The Carlton and Dazzler are both close and nice, on Libertad.
You don't say how many nights you will stay, and this is important. From your questions, it appears that you have no idea of the situation here. There are few things in your life that could benefit you more before your trip than studying the reports to educate yourself and help you prepare. I know it is sprawling. I have in the past found two approaches to this problem.
1) Read the messages from current-old, skipping the chat and responses and looking for the longer descriptive reports. As you go back, the information starts to duplicate, and you also begin to recognize names/situations, allowing you to skip faster. The responses usually aren't that important for getting a general feel.
2) If the problem of threads makes you confused, try reading the messages current-old in groups of 5 pages: Pages 5-1, 10-6, 15-11, etc. This helps keep some thread order.
Take notes and stop reading when you feel that the information is very repetitive and you understand what is being discussed.
Try reading the Andres reports and the Otto Graham reports to get a general flavor. Part of the reason there is so much stuff here is because there is so much stuff here(in BA).
Post a description especially of your experience with the hotel, which is new information. Too few people post on hotels.
Prepare and enjoy your stay!
Dear Fellow mongers:
During my last visit over the weekend before, I stayed at Loisuites Recoleta. This hotel was situated in an excellent location as far as access to Recoleta club action was concerned, within 30 seconds walking distance of Etoile, and across the corner from Recoleta Vilage.
Madahos, Solid Gold, and Playwoman were about 2-3 minutes away by walking, and affaire/Cicerone, Closer, and Newport were about a 2 minute walk from this hotel. Black was about a 4 minute walk away (not that I bothered with it).
The "suites" are very tasteful, although on the smallish side. They are equipped with a microwave oven, a mini-bar with enough extra room to hold a few drinks you would buy on your own, a sink, and a few wine/champagne glasses and dishes. There is a nice soaking tub, but no Jacuzzi. The sleeping area is separated by a sliding door. There is a nice indoor garden and swimming pool that doubles as breakfast seating area. Overall, the hotel has the feel of a "W" in the states, although not quite as nice and artsy.
Some of you may recall that I was "chained up" and hence did not get to personally test the chica-friendliness of the staff, although some Australian lads were noted to be availing themselves of the local talent without much fuss.
In dealing with hotels in the past, I usually try to contact them directly to secure the best rate. I sent an email to them via their web site, which, BTW, has outdated pricing. There was no response for a week. I then sent a second email and received the following answer in about 5 days:
Junior Studio (25 m2) 125 USD + TAX= 151 USD
Executive Studio (40 m2) 150 USD + TAX= 181 USD
Executive Suite (42 m2) 180 USD + TAX = 218 USD
These rates are per room, per night.
Include:
* Wellcome drink
* Buffet breakfast
* Sauna, fitness center and swimming pool
* Business Center
1 USD= 3 ARS
This was somewhat irritating since I had specifically asked for quotes in PESOS.I contacted Mayra who within an hour wrote back, offering a prepaid rate of 155 USD per night which included tax for the Executive Suite, and that was the rate that I took. Compared to the bargains available elsewhere I suppose this was a little on the high side, but I liked the look of the hotel and was convinced that Mayra had secured the best possible rate. Upon arrival and throughout my short stay the hotel was at full occupancy.
Based on above I do recommend contacting Mayra before accepting any prices quoted by this hotel.
Dick for Brains
11-03-03, 23:04
Does anyone have information on the Castelar Hotel and Spa? It seems fairly inexpensive (~$40US) and I believe it includes breakfast and admission to the spa. Does anyone know if this hotel is girl-friendly and if it's located in a decent area for mongering?
I have similar questions regarding Hotel Nogaro at Plaza de Mayo.
I'm working with a discount travel company that seems to get good deals on these hotels.
Alternatively, if anyone has recommendations for a hotel that is chica friendly, in an area apppropriate for the serious mongerer, and has a decent swimming pool, though not necessarily at the high end in prices, I would really appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks for your help. It will all be reciprocated upon my return from B.A.
DfB
MeGustaBoliches
11-05-03, 07:47
DFB,
There are many hotels in Buenos Aires that are past their prime. Once listed as a 4 star hotel, the Castelar needs to be updated. Standard rooms are small. Location is not ideal for mongering.......The same is true for the Nogaro.....
Still, if the deal is good enough and you need to stay in the Castelar, it is chica friendly provided you register as a double....
In terms of location, the Etoile is ideal! Read others comments about the state of the hotel....no longer a 5 star property, but still way above the Castelar...and just around the corner from all of Recoleta's clubs...
As well, The NH City and Argenta Towers both have pools and are nicer hotels. The Argenta is in a more hobby central location. Contact Mayra of www.argentinago.com for a better rate than you will find on the net or by contacting the hotel direct. $55 per night is possible, depending upon how crowded they are at the time....
One Tree Hill:
I stayed at Sarmiento Palace for one night last week. I would not recomend this hotel to anyone. The rooms are small and not very clean. The staff is not friendly. We asked for a 2:00pm check out and they sayed anything past 12:00 will be half the day rate.
We decided to move all our belongings to one room and checkout at 6:00pm. When we checked out of the room they wanted to charge an extra 20 Pesos on top of the half day rate because they said we had four people staying in the room. If anyone have seen these rooms know this is imposible.
They charge 20 pesos to bring a chica and they don't ask for documents. For my safety I always like to register the chica.
jodomas
One Hotel I stayed at about a year ago seems to be overlooked by many, and I found VERY pleasent. Certainly more refined then the Etoille these days.
It is called the Hotel Plaza Francia, website
www.hotelplazafrancia.com
The answer their email promptly, which I appreciate!
The rates start at about $65, the includes breakfast (brought to your room for free, in case your overnight date doesn't have the right outfit with her to join the regular dining room crowd!), and the staff was VERY friendly and helpful. Chica Friendly, with no charge for guests, and no attitude (although they do have to register, which I don't mind a bit!)
It is located on E. Schiffino, on the corner of Libertador -- just a short, pleasant (although uphill) walk to Junin St.
I would recommend it to anyone with that budget.
David
James D 2004
11-09-03, 16:36
Firstly, I'm not on a budget, but then I don't fancy a 5* hotel just because it's affordable. I know how some other people live - I have tried Venetian suit for 1 grand (listed at back of the door type rate), plenty of $300 and $400's when I met my girls in LA. I don't do outcall for any less than $100, incall instead. Of course I don't pay the back of the door rates.
I believe the girl is the star. If she cost 100 to 200 peso, 60 peso per day is a good starting point for the room rate. But if no tourist live on that price, I'm happy to go up to US $40 $60 or higher. A US $250 suite is not really good idea unless you have some over $100 (per hour) girls to go with it. Do we have that sort of girl that worth that price? If you bring a 200 peso girl into that suite. Oh yes she will be impressed. But she just expect more tips for the same performance. Worse still, it's even a distraction sometimes. Some girls sort of over working their tiny brain to try to squeeze some more out of you all the time, after all chicken shit from you will be very significant to them.
Location: close to the clubs is good. But I'm not sure that a 2 min walk or a 4 min walk is good. If taxi/cab is plenty and cheap, easy to get from your hotel, a 2 min or 4 min ride is good. I want to avoid embarrassingly short cab rides, the alternative being walking for 5 min. Is it common for the hotel and club to call a taxi for you?
Meals: leaving the only land of drive throughs and dinners, I hate to exhibit anti social behavior when I haven't got company. So I may need room service or eatery in hotel. Apartments is OK if there is supermarket within short walking distance. Excellent if they have prime cut of Argentina Black Angus, tuna, yellow fin, salmon from the sea. I can live on that rare and raw diets for weeks. Don't worry about the cholesterol, at worst you will have an excellent good vs bad cholesterol ratio.
I know this is a hotel thread, but what is an BA club? Average New Yorkers will be clueless inside a downtown LA hostess club.
MeGustaBoliches
11-10-03, 13:49
Tall, Are you asking for a hotel recommendation base on the criteria you have laid out? If so, I am glad you mention that you are happy to pay more than the 60 pesos per day rate you deduce would be about right for a 100-200peso chica. You won't find anything decent for that amount.
Alternately, you certainly won't need to spend $250 a night to find something nice with roomservice and/or good supermarkets nearby. The dazzler at $37 a night, ArtSuites Aparthotel at $75 or the Etoille at 150 or so pesos are the most popular hotels in Buenos Aires for hobbyists. Artsuites does not have a restaurant, but is just around the corner from a large supermarket, Cotos.
Yes, the staff in hotels and most clubs will phone for a cab.
re: your question of what is a BA club.....I will post an answer under the BA section rather than the hotel section.
James D 2004
11-11-03, 00:30
Thanks, I found plenty of supermarkets. There's one Coto about the next block to Artsuites. Are the two locations correct on the map?
http://www.geocities.com/tallnhandsom2000
I don't have the scale. What is the distance of 1 block? A Tokyo block is very different from a Californian suburb block. This is not so interesting but next I'll be plotting my distance from the clubs.
Coto delivers to your apartment for free? Interesting. Walking distance isn't important then. But I wonder how I get home from the supermarket, with no cell, no Spanish? How easy is it to catch a taxi on the street?
What sort of goods are on offer in say Coto? In comparison:
Japanese hyper markets are one of the best. I think they have live fish by air.
French Atlantic coast, where the oysters are aired to all over the world. You can assemble your own sea food platter easily beating those in nice Paris restaurants. The good thing is that the French who lives a few miles from the coast hate seafood. No competing mouth.
Pavilion closest to Coto (de Caza) California has all the prime cut of Black Angus. Trader Joe closest to Coto (de Caza) has organic Alaska Salmon for a few months now. 99 all over South CA has Japanese food, prime cut of tuna, yellow fin, and octopus.
At least they have Argentina beef and wine in Recoleta supermarkets? I'll put other discussion in the general info.
I second Dick Johnson and doubt that TNH will ever go to BA. He was banned once from the board and resurfaced like a bad penny under another name, only to flame away at people. He does seem to be trying to be nicer now.
However I do feel that you can find a "decent" hotel in BA for 60 pesos. Perhaps not a great one, but a decent one. I would say the Marbella is "decent" at I believe it is 39 pesos for a single and 51 for a double, and I think the Gran Vedra is "decent" in the same price range.
That leaves a few pesos left over for Brahma.
James D 2004
11-11-03, 05:01
Hi Dick Johnson, so you are stalking me across continents? Hate me for not picking BKK? No one can have a healthy debate with you since you like to twist things up. I have said before you are the kind of people that incite a mob violence. DH is all already to go into the mob but he has is a bit more refined as to starting it. I stated clearly that I never pay the 'list' price (listed somewhere in the room, like back of doors) in my message. The fact that a Venetian suite list for 1 grand doesn't concern me, nor you.
I hereby declare an unofficial complain against you DJ. You have absolutely no connection with BA or Argentina. If you 'can handle the truth', can you point out any one 'shit'?
Previously I have explained that I use a browser integrated spell checker (free) to reduce Jackson's editing work load. I complain about other people's spelling only because if I quote them, either I have to correct them as well, or let the error counted as mine, not good. My first language is visual (no tense too) so even if I know the difference between suit and suite, I won't be likely to spot the difference at the reading speed of a visual language.
Dickhead, I have to correct you that Dick Johnson didn't doubt my intention to go to BA. Between the lines, he seem to doubt that I've ever been in an Venetian suite - or did I buy a suit in Venice? That sure cost more than I pay for the suite.
Motel 6 standard in the South Coast of California could be decent enough. I'm looking for a good location relative to the clubs, get the meals sorted out, and someone speaks English to call taxi for me in Spanish if I need it. Whatever it cost it will not be too bad compared to the ticket.
Since you are here, can you start the internet girl top ten thing, or the club girl top ten? Like you did for top 10 destinations? (No tooth brush stuff please.) I can't enter the Spanish yahoo group yet. Are there other review sites?
I am seconding DJ that you are full of shit. The opinion that you will not go to BA is my own.
James D 2004
11-11-03, 14:22
Ah, DH, now I understand what you seconded before. See? Don't be so subtle and reflect that in your sentence structure. American subtlety (none) is what I picked very late in life, just for survival. Get over things like my handle and you will fair better, or you better move.
Dick for Brains--
Regarding the Hotel Castalar on Avenida De Mayo (and the Spa)
I can personally vouch for this hotel. When I stayed there they gave me a special $70 (peso rate) for a smallish single with AC and Cable tv, comfy bed.
The Hotel has an old world Parisian charm (Lorca stayed there). It is not howver a plush designer hotel.
IMHO--you can't go wrong there if you are on a budget.
The legit spa is there downstairs and considered on the best in LA.
Best of Luck--
James D 2004
11-12-03, 18:07
Though I don't doubt Dick's brain capacity, what he do is on the experimental side. The brainy theory is mine - relatividad general. It had to be decent hotels in that price range to go along with the pussy price.
Along the same line, if you are on a budget (I hate this line), you can't go any wrong in a 5* BA hotel. It's dirt cheap. This is particularly true for some Europeans.
Some escorts frown on motel 6 or econo lodge, which cost me up to $60 if you just walk in like that. For the price you can have clean and decent rooms in Europe, owner operated B&B. Even the hotels are better for the same price. The cleaners are of a different breed. But then it's probably because the jobs are more stable. In CA the good ones have to turn down offers, call them housekeepers or domestic assistance. Those work the hotels are likely lto make you feel lucky if they turn up.
Compared to Marbella, the Castalar is a splash, lucky you loaded guy.
MeGustaBoliches
11-12-03, 19:26
TNH,
It is obvious that with your superior intellect you will go far. Jackson will probably reward you with your very own section, like the legendary Nibu.
Chicas cost 150 pesos so there must be inexpensive 5 star hotels available at comporable cost. Such brillient reasoning. May you enjoy the splendor of the Castelar, the finest digs available in Buenos Aires. LMAO.
James D 2004
11-12-03, 23:45
I can see that the teoría of relatividad general is easily misunderstood. I was saying that there must be "decent" hotels that I'm happy with and the chica is happy with at 1/3 of the chica price.
Let's assume that 5* is an absolute quality measure, the BA price is dirt cheap to many Europeans, compared to the 5* in their own countries. Good for you if you are on a budget, which can be of any numerical value as I understand it.
BTW, how about Aristo, Apart Recoleta, LION D'OR, or ELEGANCE PARK PLAZA ? There's no way you can get mugged if you run to Madaho, right?
James D 2004
11-14-03, 04:31
I'm not happy nor sad to say that my consolidation agent, as always, didn't screw up and I'll be on United 855. I feel a little bit like a dick head, signing up for the first one on the top ten list without looking at the state department's small prints. Anyway here are maps of the bowling alleys, hotels and supermarkets. Why are they called bowling alleys?
www.geocities.com/tallnhandsom2000
JackDaniels
11-14-03, 19:04
It looks like the Argentina boards, which are normally of good quality, are being subject to self indulgent gibberish.
MeGustaBoliches
11-14-03, 22:08
Jack, I'll drink to that...
James D 2004
11-15-03, 14:18
Jack, go easy on Nibu, Dickhead and the like. You must be frustrated about the euro or the weather or both. Nothing beats the weather better than body warmth. But if it cost too much euro for an extra warm body for the long night, a drink will help to raise your own temperature. Now down here is perfect 73 F, but when the thunderstorm comes anytime or the temperature goes up to the 80's, we'll lock ourselves up in an air cond room and have a bottle of cool import Beaujolais. Cheers!
TallnHandsome: "Jack, go easy on Nibu, Dickhead and the like."
I think Dickhead can look after himself, (I'm returning in March 2004 for 6 months so I hope we can meet up for a beer or three sometime), but I don't think Jack was referring to Dickhead etc. A clue: maybe think about your own posts.
JackDaniels
11-15-03, 16:46
SteveC, thanks for pointing the way to TNH - hopefully he will get the hint. While he is not of Nibuesque proportions, he might get that way if not advised.
The words "Quality over Quantity" are recalled from an earlier era in the forum's history.
Cheers to all (including Beaujolais afficionados).
Logan Lurker
11-17-03, 14:13
Hi All,
A couple weeks ago I posted requesting any feedback on the Americas Towers (AT) hotel. I did not end up staying there, I was at the Dazzler instead. However, AT is one block away from the Dazzler so folks looking for mongering info in that area need only reference reports on the Dazzler. I did spend some time in AT for business and it seemed nice, with an english speaking staff and good food. I cannot say how chica friendly they are though, nor anything about their rates.
Sorry I'm not more help!
Lurk
James D 2004
11-17-03, 21:01
Steve C, I tried to dumb down my contribution but you really need some clues. Hotels are all about location location location - MAP.
If you try to see before you criticize, and follow the link, you will be confronted by a large high resolution pedestrian map of BA centered at Madahos complete with street names and numbers. If you don't get the hint, this is an interactive map generated by a website way better than yahoo maps, map quest and map blast or the like. It may surprise you that the site is GLOBAL. The same goes for most European countries, SAO PAULO, Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur. Even for Bangkok you have a lower resolution route map - good if you ever drive into and out of BKK.
And since a decent street map is necessary for the BA taxi drivers as recommended, and that many have asked for online downloadable maps before, I tried to go one step further than Jackon by plotting the clubs in Recoleta on one map. But then it's not much since a few are very close to Madahos. I suggest for the very least you use one map for boliches and another map for all other things. It would be em brassing when you ask for directions on the street if you have only one map on which you mark everything.
If you looked further you can see other online maps generated by another website. This time this site is local to BA and complete with BA knowledge. You can bring out all the hotels around your point of interest, or all the supermarkets, which is useful for a long apartment stay. You have banks and all that but no boliches.
I forget to add that some of the 'blabbing' is really the feedback to the performance of the ticket consolidation agent that I recommended earlier. The instant you press the button is the instant you got the ticket confirmed. There's no hassle to use as compared to other bargain sites. The price is always good if you compare orange with orange. Super if you try to buy 3 or 4 singles for your multi-city tour.
TnH: I was merely advising you to reflect a little. You seem to be making a habit on the board of making an ass of yourself and pissing off a lot of people. Good luck in BsAs, when you make it that is.
My last post on this.
Lurker,
You should be able to find plenty about the Dazzler. Just do a Forum Search. Saw on argentinago.com a little while ago that the price was something like 37US for 2 people. A little small, the rooms, but overall pretty good value. They were Chica friendly when I stayed there in Mar.
Dick for Brains
11-20-03, 23:31
I was looking over Mayra's website and noticed that there are 3 Kempinski Hotels listed that have outdoor pools and seem to be reasonably priced. They are called Park Chateau Kempinski Hotel ($67) and Park Plaza Kempinski Hotel ($86) which are both located in Recoleta, and Park Elegance Kempinski Hotel ($52) which is located in Barrio Norte.
I will be arriving in Buenos Aires around December 7th.
Does anyone know if these hotels are chica friendly, in a good neighborhood for mongering, and if the outdoor swimming pools will be open by the 7th of December?
Thanks for your help.
DfB
ChicagoBoy23
11-21-03, 22:40
Hotel Claridge (center) has good pool and is chica friendly. Mayra made reservation for me.
A few years ago I stayed at Hotel Cristoforo Colombo in Palermo. It's in a nice neighborhood and it's a 3 minute cab ride from Nuevo Estilo Boliche in Belgrano and a 10 minute cab ride to Recoleta and Madahos and all the other great mongering spots. I saw yesterday on travelocity.com that you can get a single for about U$30 and doubles for about U$100 and the doubles are suites with separate bedroom, living room, dining room and kitchen. The lobby is a huge, friendly type lobby with lots of places to lounge and the staff is very nice and friendly and English speaking. I remember that the rooms weren't huge but they were very comfortable and they have a huge, circular outdoor swimming pool. This place is around the corner from the American Embassador's house and is great if you're looking for someplace off the "beaten path". DownBA
MeGustaBoliches
11-25-03, 01:13
my two-cents worth on hotels......Kempenski hotels are chica friendly, at least the Park Chateau. I don't remember a pool at any of these hotels...but I was not there during the summer so I was not looking. Cristoforo Columbo is a decent hotel in a very good location, near Plaza Italia....I have wondered if it is chica friendly? Stayed at the Claridge one time, but was not very happy...room needed updating and there were fleas in my sheets...Dazzler is the choice for bargain digs....and very chica friendly....
Bunda Blast
11-25-03, 11:34
Down BA:
It is nice to see someone else mentioning outdoor pools. I would like to stay in a hotel with an outdoor pool. The one you mentioned, is it in the sun? Does anyone else know of good hotels where the pool is outdoor, in the sun, and open right now?
When in BA we stay at the Argenta Tower.
Long term the rate is about $35 US Breakfast included (but who is up that early)
Girl friendly and an outdoor pool on top.
Location is El Centro.
Juncal y Esmarelda
Mad Max out.
The Hilton in Puerto Madero has an excellent outdoor pool and a small cafe on the same floor. The pool is on one of the building's rooftops. A little breezy at times, but a nice view of many things in B.A.
Bunda, sorry, but I was there in very early Spring of 98, my first time in BA when I had the pleasure of going to my first "boliche", which was Monte Carlo when it was still on the service road just to the side of 9 de Julio, the year I did my first two Brazilian honeys and the year I realized how in love I was with BA and all the gorgeous chicas....BUT I can't honestly say the big, round outdoor pool was in the sun because it was closed for another month or so until summer started. But if you want a really nice apart hotel, they have both regular hotel rooms and aparthotel rooms with fully stocked kitchen, separate living room, dining room, bedroom, etc. It's a short walk from Santa Fe and a short walk from Libertador too in a very nice neighborhood close to some of the many, many parks you find in Palermo. It's also down the street from one of the many outdoor red light districts in BA where, if you're not careful, you'll find that the hottie sucking your dick in the alley has one himself even though he looks great in nylons and high-heel shoes. LOL DownBA
Dick for Brains
11-26-03, 04:30
DownBA,
Do you know when the pool at the Hotel Cristoforo Colombo in Palermo opens? Is it open now? Is this Hotel friendly para las chicas?
DfB
DFBrains, sorry, never tried to bring a chica in but from what I know of this hobby in general, if you register and pay for a double occupancy room there's little chance they're going to tell you at the Cristoforo Colombus hotel that you can't have female company. And no, don't know if the pool is open now but I'll try to find out and post an answer. Will be in BA soon and will let you know. DownBA
Bunda Blast
11-27-03, 19:43
DownBA: I am going to be in BA in a couple of days. How can I contact you for some mongering company?
Anyone else going to be in BA in 2 days for the week? Let me know where you want to meet and I will be there.
Hi Bunda Blast,
You can contact these guys by sending them a Private Message.
Thanks,
Jackson
James D 2004
12-03-03, 19:26
Thanks to our favourite agent Ulises suites work out very well for me. In BA it pays to invest in space. Size isn´t everything but if you are not used to it you may get a depression in a long stay. Indeed after half a day and 1 chica, I decided to upgrade. Being in the better neighbour of Recoleta, size is not the strong point of Ulises, but you can always show off your balcony to the guys in Alvear. The neighbourhood at Etolia and Loisuites dosen´t look that good with all tree lining streets. And that corner is flood with tourists and locals in restaurants. It´s a short pleasant walk to Madaho and there are always taxi across the street at the door of Alvear. Lot's of bank there and in citibank you can get dollars.
As for chica friendly every hotel is the same but I would be very intimidated by the entrance in Loisuites when I´m bringing a chica home. The Ulises footprint is so tiny and if you pay off the only guy on duty, you can do what you want I guess. We can walk straight through without he looking up, or he opened the door for us. I heard they are good if you bring in two chicas but I doubt if they will complain with more. There´s only a very small number of rooms so you get very personal 1st class service.
The lifts and in suite stair case are works of art. Every room is unique though. You can´t do much in the kitchenlette unless you love Japanese style food.
APART RECOLETA HOTEL, 1948 GUIDO has gone through a change in policy: They do not permit guests in the rooms any longer! I am advised that there was a murder in one of the rooms recently. The story goes that a monger had drugs and a young chica in one of the rooms and the chica got a little too intoxicated and shot the mongerer with his own gun.
This hotel was my regular crib in ba. I pulled in the Wednesday before Thanksgiving after a nine hour flight from Miami and the consierge, who knows me, pulled me aside as I was checking in to exlpain the new NO GUESTS POLICY. The owners are upset and rude about the change in policy. I had reserved a suite for my brother and myself to have a bonding vacation months before at the super"naccional" rate. This hotel will give repeat north american guests the local argentine rate.
The owner would not help me make arrangements for another hotel. The maintence supervisor picked up the phone in defiance and called the E'toile to help me find a room. This was bizaar--the hotel staff had treated me like family in the past.
James D 2004
12-07-03, 22:38
To Dick Johnson, when you find your Internet connection next time, that would be 3 month on average, please get off my back. In BA it would be 3 minutes on average.
This is the Screw, up to heaven, in my BA hotel. I do leave LA from time to time. Whenever I lie idle on the couch looking at this, I remember what I come to BA for.
Dancesw/Chicas
12-07-03, 22:55
MiamiBob,
I know the place your taking in Guido. That new policy sucks!
Did they try to charge some cancellation fee or something
like that?
James D 2004
12-08-03, 00:17
It's has been a unique experience making food in this kitchenette. The green multifunction toaster is way better than microwave.
James D 2004
12-08-03, 01:04
The Alvear (as seen from my balcony).
James D 2004
12-08-03, 01:10
I got well trimmed plants too, fit for a romantic breakfast.
dancesw--THE HOTEL APART RECOLETA let me out of the reservation without any problem. My past experience was good service and kind, gentle help from the staff. The rudeness was surprising to me. The portenos are generally warm hosts towards their foreign visitors. My experience at L'etoile was very good, but double the price for a hotel which is a full level above the Hotel Apart Recoleta. i'm going back christmas time and i'll try an apartment.
I found the card of the POLO RESTAURANT in las canitas:
LA FONDA DEL POLO
BAEZ 301
LAS CANITAS PALERMO
4772 8946
This is a very good, not the absolute best, well priced restaurant and parrilla [argentine grill] in a happenening part of BA --6 peso cab ride from Recoleta. It is right below the polo stadium. You will likely be the only tourist. a couple of the waiters speak enough English to help with the menu. You should do just fine if you've ordered off of a parilla menue a few times before. The balance of the menue is very good, but you'll need some spanish.
Jonny Hit Run
12-09-03, 02:51
Loi Suites Recoleta is definitely chica friendly. As long as you walk in with confidence your not going to get hassled. Neither me nor my friends were ever questioned or asked to register the girls. The guys who work the night shift are super cool they even sent girls to our rooms one morning as we arranged it the night before.You must be discreet as the day shift I'm sure knows nothing of the practice.
Also on a side note I spent a week at the Marriott on Florida street. They did not require registration of girls either but there's not much in the way of nightlife in that part of town unless the"Piano Bar"- Le Piaf counts. I did spend a couple hours there one night-rip off.
James D 2004
12-09-03, 19:14
I was intimidated by the spot light and the layout of the entrance of Loi Suites. Not only that you may discover at the spot that the chica you brought with you is less than perfect, and that people walking across the street can see into the front desk.
MiddleAgeGuy
12-09-03, 19:40
Good note from Jonny Hit Run.
Going back to your room with confidence, chica in hand, works 99% of the time in avoiding a sign-in. I have stayed in 7 hotels in BA and all but my first time, did I have a chica sign-in. (Probably not the case with the very high end hotels). And then, I believe only because she marched up to the desk in expectation of having to sign in. Some others have done a slight hesitation walking near the sign-in desk, only to have me gently turn them towards the elevators. At Design Suites, asking the security guy prior to a nightly excurssion, he said you have to sign them in. Five hours later on my return, he just waved us on, laughing.
It is appreciated that the staff call your room first before allowing a chica on the elevator, even if she knows your room number. Saves potential embarrassment for all parties. I had a repeat once who was annoyed at the clerk insisting he call up prior to her embarking the elevator. Proffesional move on the cleks part.
My pet peeve is those huge key holders some hotels hang there keys on, and they expect you to drop off the key before you leave the hotel. Of course, you just take the key holder off so you can stash the key in your pocket, (remember your room #.)
As some have stated here earlier, you may wish to have your date check in for your own protection. Seems like a long shot to me however.
MAG
I sure as hell know some good night life on Florida near the Marriott!
OttoGraham
12-09-03, 20:50
I must say that "Chica Sign-In" is for YOUR SAFETY. If you get ripped off, robbed, drugged, assaulted in your room, it is much more difficult to know who did it if there's no record of the woman's existence. I highly recommend you get them signed in and get over your reluctance in this matter.
If you guys are too shy to sign a girl in at the reception desk, you really should be considering something a bit less outgoing for a hobby. Perhaps birdwatching. I mean it, people in hotels have seen it ALL. Bringing a woman back to your room with you in Buenos Aires is hardly shocking.
-Uncle Otto
Dickhead said:
I sure as hell know some good night life on Florida near the Marriott!
Amen
While I neither agree nor disagree, overall, with OG I do have a comment (this comment is generic to Latin America rather than specific to BA). Many times, the hotel will pull out your registration sheet at the time they have the chica sign in, or worse yet, even have her sign that sheet. This results in HER knowing YOUR real name and perhaps other info, which can be an issue. You may want to have a proactive conversation with the desk clerks to prevent this (a small amount of money should probably change hands at this point).
My favorite security method is when they keep her ID, then when she goes to get it back from the desk, they call and check if everything is OK before they give it back. This at least HELPS to make sure you are not lying up there with a shiv in your gut and an empty wallet. Many times you can request that they do this (and some money should change hands at this point as well).
My preference is to manage my own safety myself but Otto makes good points and I am Irish and we have a long tradition of being too dumb to be scared.
Interestingly, there are two gals in particular whom I see in BA who have NEVER been asked for ID or to sign in, in the same places where other gals have been asked. They greatly appreciate it and I consider it a reflection of the fact they are discreet in how they look and act. Gals you could bring home to mom, in other words.
Another thing that has worked over the years as far as not having anything stolen out of my hotel room is never having anything in there worth stealing unless it is cash, which is pretty easy to hide if you have any imagination. I think in Latin America most hotel employees would not risk their hard-to-get jobs by stealing from rooms but the chicas are another story. I never do TLN so that has probably decreased my risk as well.
MAG, I hate those huge key rocks and leaving my key at the desk also. I see it mostly in smaller places (Hotel Marbella does it) and I wonder if it's so when they see all the keys are out of the slots they can then take a nap.
MiddleAgeGuy
12-10-03, 12:30
Tito Otto,
Good advice Otto. Still, I would rather not have the 'record'' as who knows what happens with it. The staff see you anyway, sign-in or no sign-in. As DH reports, I 'prepare' my room to be safe prior to going out for the evening in order that it is in a state of readiness on return. Although many times they clear the food snacks off the mini-bar, gulping half a bag down, the rest into the purse, (and always ask permission), I have not had so much as a soap 'stolen'. But yes, be prepared. Another point is that unless they are a SW, you know where they work out of, what site they are on, etc. Unless you were very richly ripped off, they will still want to be associated with their marketing partners, with whom you could discuss any problems.
MAG
Rubiks Cube
12-20-03, 07:30
In my previous visit to Buenos Aires I stayed at the LOIS Suites. The rooms were nice and the staff was very chica friendly. Severally of the night staff would ask to bring me girls which I assume would share the payoff with them. While my paranoid mind felt everybody was laughing at me in the morning (I usually brough 2 girls back each night) the staff was always extremely courteous when I would return with the chicas. I never checked in but would always greet the doorman with a ten peso hand shake and that seemed to make him extremely thankful.
On my next trip I was hoping to stay somewhere special and am looking for suggestions. Ideally I would like something like a suite you would find at a nice hotel like in Las Vegas. Jacuzzi, spacious, and most important chica friendly. I don't want an upgraded hotel room I want a legitiamte suite. ANybody have any suggestions.
Also does anybody know what hotels if any have American movies available for pay per view. My biggest frustration with LOIS was the television.
Garfield27
12-23-03, 22:30
Hey guys,
Looking for useful information on Marriott Plaza Hotel on Florida 1005. If any one stayed there please let me know if it is a nice place and if there are any problems bringing girls in.
Also, how far is the city center or Recoleta. Is there anything interesting close to Marriot?
Thanks in advance.
Dick for Brains
12-24-03, 22:33
Hotel Cristoforo Colombo in Palermo:
DownBA - Thanks for the information (several weeks ago) about Hotel Cristoforo Colombo in Palermo. I stayed there for two weeks having just returned to The States on Sunday.
The hotel is in Barrio Palermo, an excellent neighborhood a couple minutes away from the core monger action. The Hotel has an outdoor pool, which has been open since November 15th, and provides a nice place to relax in between adventures during the summer season. I had a queen size bed in my bedroom, a living room with small kitchen, hassle-free mongering, in a decent upper-middle-class neighborhood for a little over $30US per day. The only complaint I had about the suite was that there was some construction taking place a few buildings south that provided a rude awakening every day.
Another interesting fact about the hotel is that it is located at the tip of the transvestite red zone. Beware of these street walkers - they look like authentic mujeres and provided this monger with one close call on my first night in BA. I woke up at midnight after a nap on my first day, headed outside for a walk and got picked up by one of these ladies of the night. I brought her (him) up to my room. When (s)he insisted that I pay in advance, no deal was consummated (lucky for me) and out (s)he went. When I returned for my walk, I realized what these street walkers were and thanked my lucky stars!
Palermo is a great location, less than a $2US taxi ride from the core of Recoleta. It's also reachable by a variety of busses that pass on Avenida Santa Fe. In particular, Lines 59 and 60 will get you to Recoleta at all hours for about $0.25US. You can also travel/explore the subway system for the same price as the bus. The hotel is at the Palermo stop on the "D" line. The subway system is a good way to get to/from the hotel and the Microcentre during rush hours but has the obvious disadvantage that you don't get a chance to see the city while travelling to and fro.
There's quite a few good restaurants in Palermo Viejo, just across Avenida Santa Fe from Palermo. I can recommend one in particular - a new Parrilla with an old look called Tzolkin lcated at 2088 Calle Jorge L Borgas. The owner is a really nice guy who invited me in while strolling on an afternoon and offered me some meat to sample. It was the best I had ever had and returned later that week for a full dinner.
There's also some good music to be had in Palermo Viejo - El Club de Vino on Calle Cabrera has an interesting and diverse repertoire. On various nights, I saw and heard some Flamenco, Tango and Jazz concerts. They also have an excellent selection of wine and have an in-house wine museum.
In Old Palermo, there's also a club for die-hard Tango afficionados - Club Homero also on Calle Cabrera, and another club/restaurant a block or two east of Club del Vino (also on Cabrera) which specializes in food from the far North of Agrentina (Jujuy). This club has concerts on Friday night of Folk music from the north of Argentina.
I strongly recommend taking advantage of the non-mongering culture that BA has to offer. There's a lot of music and dance to see, all starting around 11pm. These diversions provide a good way to pass the time before the Boliche action gets serious around 1:30 pm and adds another dimension to the BA visit.
All in all, a very positive experience at Hotel Cristoforo Columbo, one that I highly recommend.
MeGustaBoliches
12-25-03, 07:23
Garfield,
The Marriott.....first, like most hotels in BA it is chica friendly. Girls may have to register or leave their id cards at the desk, but there is not a problem with girls.
Second, The Marriott is in an older building that has been nicely restored, though the restoration is old enough that some of the rooms need to be restored again! Bottom line: There are probably nicer hotels for the money in Buenos Aires...eg the Sofitel, the Sheraton Tower, the Four Seasons, the Hilton and the newer part of the Holiday Inn on Carlos Pelligrini.
Third, re: location....the Marriott is located at one end of the Florida pedestrian mall, not far from several chica clubs....Peripilo is across the street and Cutty Sark is about three blocks away on Reconquista. Also, Cafe Orleans is nearby on Cordoba street. There are street girls at Florida and Paraguay street...you will be hit on by chicas trying to entice you to go to a piano bar about half a block from the Marriott. Don't go.
Fourth: How far? A three peso taxi ride to Recoleta...about 2 pesos or a long walk to the clubs on Suipacha (4).....
OttoGraham
12-25-03, 14:53
Originally posted by Lego Maniac
On my next trip I was hoping to stay somewhere special and am looking for suggestions. Ideally I would like something like a suite you would find at a nice hotel like in Las Vegas. Jacuzzi, spacious, and most important chica friendly. I don't want an upgraded hotel room I want a legitiamte suite. ANybody have any suggestions.
Check with mayra@argentinago.com, she knows the hotel scene in Buenos Aires. I (and many other posters here too) always engage her services as a travel agent when I travel there.
-Uncle Otto
Dick for Brains
12-25-03, 15:35
Not to pour cold water on the excellent services that Myra provides for Mongers w.r.t. finding Hotels in BA but in the spirit of truth in advertising, I need to report the following:
I was able to book a good suite at Cristoforo Colombo (see report below) for $110AR /day including tax. I booked this through Travelocity who quoted me $30US / day. When I arrived at Cristoforo Colombo and asked why my rate was $110AR when Travelocity quoted me $90AR ($30US * 3$AR/$US) their reply was that the Travelocity rate was exclusive of the tax (which thus amounted to roughly $20AR / day.)
While working through Myra, I was quoted me the following rates:
Executive Standard (double): $ 116 Pesos + tax per night
Executive Super (double): $ 139 Pesos + tax per night.
Having seen all of the rooms lines at the hotel, I have concluded that I had at least the equivalent of the Executive Standard Suite that Myra quoted. There was only one set of suites (those overlooking the pool) that were superior to the one I was in. Thus I saved at least $26AR per day by booking through Travelocity rather than through Myra. Staying their for 11 nights, I thus saved on the order of $100US over the course of my trip by booking through Travelocity rather than through Myra.
I also need to report that I was looking for a hotel with a good outdoor swimming pool and Myra was unaware of Cristoforo Colombo's pool until I mentioned it to her (after reading a recommendation of it in this section by DownBA several weeks ago.)
Having said all of this, I think Myra does a decent job. If one is not willing to do some of the legwork to save a few extra dollars, Myra did recommend some other Hotels with pools and provided me with some information I was unable to find out in a different manner. For example, she called the hotel and confirmed that the pool was already open for the summer. This was an important piece of information that I wasn't able to find in another manner.
DfB
Mickey Mouse
12-25-03, 22:03
Legomaniac,
I usually get an Executive Suite (not real large by US standards) at the "Grand Boulevard Hotel (.com)". It's not in Recoleta, but easy Taxi rides, the staff is very service oriented and you'll love the large marble Bathrooms with jacuzzi. The Mini bars are reasonably priced too. Let me know if I can help with corporate rate, at 220peso/ night includes all taxes and breakfast. Oh, extremely girl friendly, they just like you to check the girls in at no charge which is ok with me because this way I am protected.
MM
MeGustaBoliches
12-26-03, 16:46
DFB,
I commend you for venturing out of the confines of downtown and Recoleta and into the residential area of Palermo.
RE: Pricing....I usually check several on-line sources and get the best price possible BEFORE making contact with a local travel agent. When I speak with the agent I make it clear that I would like to do business with them, but not if it will cost me money. Usually, the local agent will meet or beat the price of an on line source.
A second approach to working with a local agent is simply to tell her you are interested in the best available hotel in a given price range/category....the discounts they are offered may vary from time to time, and one hotel or another may provide incentives during slack times....so Design Suites may be a bargain one month, and not the next, etc.....
I have not worked with Mayra, although I have met her....but I feel certain she is like the agent I work with...and will earn your business if you provide guidelines/structure.....
Dick for Brains....so, did I give you a good hotel recommendation? You didn't mention in your report if you liked Cristofor Colombo but I have very fond memories of the place since it was the very first hotel I ever stayed at in BA....let me know what you thought and if you thought the Colombo was a good buy for the money? Thanks, DownBA
Dick for Brains
12-27-03, 13:19
DBA,
There's an earlier report (12/24) where I give a better summary of the hotel and its surroundings.
In short, the hotel was a great deal at around $37US/night including taxes. The pool provided needed comfort on a couple of those hot summer days. The suite was more than adequate, and I loved the neighborhood (especially on the other side of Avenida Santa Fe in Palermo Viejo.)
I thanked you there and I'll thank you again for a fine recommendation.
DfB
Young & Restless
12-29-03, 15:26
Just have a couple of questions....
I've been spending too much time in Rio and am looking for something a little different for my next trip. Argentina seems like the obvious choice, so here's my questions:
1. Please give me some feedback on the Marriott in Buenos Aires (ie, do they allow you to bring girls to your room, how's the location of the hotel in relation to all of the good spots)
2. What are some good alternatives to the Marriott if they have too many restrictions and the location of the hotel is too far from all of the action?
Again, I'm just now looking into Buenos Aires, so this place is completely new to me. I'll gladly exchange information though, if there's anything you may want to know about Rio. Thanks for any feedback on my two questions!!
Bizznich,
Mariott is chica friendly. There are ton of other options - Alvear palace (probably the most expensive), Etoile (great location), Lois Suites, Art Suites, Castellar (budget) and private apartments. Your best bet is to contact Mayra. PM me if you need more info.
DFB and others,
Just checking online at Expedia.com, I have seen in mid March most good hotels in BA going from 80-150 dollars US per night. Seems far from the bargains I keep hearing about. So it might be possible that a travel agent would be the better way to go. Without this board a travel agent would probably be essential as most Americanos wouldnt know one BA hotel from another.
Dick for Brains
01-04-04, 20:33
Racker,
The point I am trying to make is that we do have this board and as a result, we can communicate information directly without the need of an "agent".
Agents are much more useful in the absence of a board like this. The fact that there are $150 hotels is immaterial to me since through the use of this board, I was able to find hotels in the $35 range that satisfied all of my needs.
For those of us, who even after knowing about this board, still use agents, that's fine. It does take time gathering the information through all of the reports, and for some it may make sense to use these agents.
To each his own. We all have different tastes, different incomes, different time constraints, etc.
I do think it is important to report truthfully and not merely act as shills for some of the commercial enterprises on this board. I have in fact received pms from mongers regarding bad service from some of these agents. These mongers refuse to report these bad experiences publicly on the board for fear of public humiliation as happened a month or two ago after a negative report of an agent showed up on the board. I think this is censorship of the worst kind.
We all have a responsibility to report truthfully, whether the experience is good, bad or indifferent. We have all benefited from those who have gone before us and the best way we can give back is to report honestly.
Only with honest information can the monger decide for himself, given his tastes and circumstances, whether he wants to use these agents' services or not.
DfB
Very True DFB.
For those of us going to BA for the first time, there is some apprehension, particularly for us Americans who arent used to adventures.
This board enables us to at least discuss the various hotels, which are chica friendly, which arent, etc.
But its the price issue that concerns me. I see wildly fluctuating prices at some hotels. Youve gotten good ones at $35 per night, Ive seen others listed on the intenet for $150 per night that may not be any better.
I guess the best way to go is contact the hotel directly via the Internet.
MeGustaBoliches
01-05-04, 19:33
Some additional thoughts on hotels and the use of agents
There are several reasons to use an agent.
1. Knowledge of the local market. 2. To save money. 3. To save time.
DFB notes that via the board we, too, have knowledge of the local market....very helpful in a place like Buenos Aires where some 4 star hotels are flea traps while others are 4 star hotels by U.S. or European standards, making it impossible to know what you are getting by looking at ratings...
2. To save time.
It takes time to surf the net. I usually check the hotel web site, Travelocity, Octopus Travel, etc before booking when I reserve my own room.....then there is the issue of transportation to/from the airport, a local cell phone, etc.....a good agent can save you time, if this is a consideration....
3. To save money.
I have found that in Buenos Aires more than in other places I have been, a good agent can save you money if you are flexible....agents may have access to rates you do not have, simply because Argentinos like to do business with other Argentinos....case in point: Design Suites....you can almost always save money by working through an agent rather than by booking yourself directly with the hotel or via travelocity, etc. This may not be so with all hotels and all agents....it pays to know in advance what the market is.....
I had a frustrating series of emails with Design Suites over price....I found a good price over the internet on a Spanish only site....emailed in English...and received a reply that this rate was for Argentinos only....I would have to pay the extranjero rate, found on Travelocity....Interestingly, when I checked with my agent, she got me the lower rate without a problem....not smart on the part of the hotel, since they paid my agent a commission they didn't need to pay had they simply given me the room in the first place....I
On a related topic, I agree with DFB's assessment that for us to get the most out of this site we need to be able to provide candid reviews of agents as well as chicas.....not to flame the agent, but to honestly discuss their strengths and weaknesses....This having been said, my agent saves me money and saves me time.....I am a happy camper!
OttoGraham
01-05-04, 20:05
DfB seems obsessed on the topic of travel agents, so I will throw this out - neither Expedia, Orbitz, Yahoo Travel, etc.... has ever gotten me into a hotel that was listed on the internet as sold out. Mayra has.
If you want to spend hours surfing the net finding the absolute lowest price ever, be my guest. And when you're in Buenos Aires, you can take your computer out to lunch with you. Me, I always make it a point to dine with my wonderful travel agent, who saves me money and time and has also become a personal friend.
-Uncle Otto
Thai Diesel
01-06-04, 04:33
MeGustaBoliches
It seems like you have access to a great agent and advantages over some of us mongers. It would be helpfull to the new and veteran mongers if you could share your agent.
MeGustaBoliches
01-06-04, 20:56
Thai,
My travel agent's name is Cintia. She and her husband own a small agency called WowArgentina...wowargentina.com....She is part of the travel industry and is in no way involved with our hobby....but she is a superb agent!
Thai Diesel
01-07-04, 17:50
MeGustaBoliches
Thanks for the information. I was referring to accommodations and airfare. Any reasonable saving on time and/or money would help make the trip more enjoyable. I didn't imply anything else about your agent.
Thanks again.
Rubiks Cube
01-10-04, 19:24
Does anyone know which hotels if any have american pay per view movies. I am looking for a hotel with as much American television as possible. Also has anyone tried bringing a DVD player and movies. Do televisions in Argentina have different inputs? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Carlos Primeros
01-16-04, 01:42
When I was last October in BA I asked Myra to make a reservation for me at the Etoil in Recoleta. That was the smartest thing to do. I got the local rate, Myra made some commission and I am sure when I come next time I get again the preferential treatment. I do not mind spending money but I want to have also a return on my investment.
Again - if you need a hotel in BA - ask Myra. She can tell you what your really can expect and if it is worth your money.
Carlos
Hotel Etoile has been chica friendly for many years.
Can someone give me an update on this subject.
I've heard that you can bring in more than one girl at the same time which one couldn't on ´my two previous visits.
OttoGraham
01-27-04, 22:18
Robert,
PM jamesbond69. He's staying there now.
-Uncle Otto
JamesBond69
01-27-04, 23:59
Hotel Etoile has been chica friendly for many years.
Can someone give me an update on this subject.
I've heard that you can bring in more than one girl at the same time which one couldn't on ´my two previous visits.
---------------
I tried to bring two back last night and they let me but I had to pay an extra 50 pesos.
Still all in all the etoile is still the best place to stay, a real value considering the location, staff and the health club.
Regarding the question of more than one visitor -
You might want to consider Hotel Grand Boulevard. It's out of Recoleta down by the Obeliska on 9 De Julio, about 10 minutes from Recoleta or 5 from Suipacha area. It's a new place and is very chica friendly. Suites are around 70 per day and regular rooms about 40. It is a lot nicer than Etoile, but does not have a gym. The most chicas I have had there at once is 3. Mickey Mouse put me onto this place.
Stormy
Report on Argenta Tower
868 Juncal at Suipacha
This place was a very pleasant surprise. Located in Retiro right between Centro and Recoleta and easy walking distance from both, I found it exceptionally clean and well provisioned. Travelocity has an executive suite listed at $150 per night, but you can book it direct for $100 via their website. Excellent king size bed and a wonderfully appointed bathroom. Best selling point is the outdoor rooftop pool on the 12th floor with adjoining gym and a great view, and the lobby restaurant Vivaldi.
The staff are friendly, efficient, and very professional. They always had someone on the desk who spoke English. I suppose there may be better deals in BA for the super price conscious folks, but for my money this place has just the kind of laid back quality and close to everything location I love. Chica friendly with a smile.
Bozology rates it a 9.
HobbyInHouston
02-09-04, 01:17
Does anyone have any info on the Penthouse of the ulises recoletta. Is it guest friendly, modern, ect. Are there other places close by of similar or better value. Is it large enough to have a small party / meeting of say 8 to 10 people?
Thanks
Doing a one night layover in Buenos Aires enroute to Chile. I want to know of any 4 or 5 star chica-friendly hotel in the center where I can just walk to where the action is...I mean walk to the clubs where the girls are at and be able to bring them back to the room.
Location is a priority and not the price. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
OttoGraham
02-10-04, 15:49
HC,
LoisSuites Recoleta is probably your best bet. ~US$115 a night right next to Recoleta Cemetery.
Alvear Palace is in the same area, and is the best hotel in BsAs (you said money is no object!), but I don't know if it is chica friendly or not.
-Uncle Otto
EZE_Amante
02-10-04, 19:53
Hobbyinhouston,
I stayed in the penthouse at the Ulisses on my 2nd trip last year. The hotel was very guest friendly, I never had to sign in a guest, and you can have as many guests at a time as you want. The hotel is small but clean, modern, but not by US standards. As to the question of a party, the salon is large with a skylight (great lighting throughout the suite for photography), but you will have seating for only seven or eight including barstools, I think there are two chairs in the bedroom you could also use if needed. The bar is great complete with a sink, and they will bring in an additional fridge if needed. There are 1 and 1/2 bathrooms which makes it convenient to entertain, and the only complaint I have about the suite is there is no bath tub, and the shower is so small you can barely turn around in it. The chicas loved the room, many of them commenting on how large it is for a hotel. It feels more like an apartment with the layout of the rooms.
The staff were very friendly and accomodating, the restaurant is small and you are better off eating elsewhere. The lobby is small and they keep it locked at night, with a 24 hr desk man to buzz you in. Great location accross the street from Alvear Palace, and kitty corner to Black, just one block to the Etoile and all the restaurants.
Hope this is helpful, pm me if you have any questions.
EZE :)
Ho_Chaser the Alvear Palace is very Chica friendly and Black is right across the street --- Last I checked the rooms were in the $400 USD range --- Also the next best place is the Four Seasons Hotel which is of course where Fidel Castro stays when hes in town --- Either one you'll have a good time --- By the way I made friends with the door man at the Alvear Palace and he was telling me stories of the former president of Argentina Menan whom kept a suite at the Alvear Palace --- He'd drive in in his Limo to the under ground parking lot, get in the elevator in the garage and go directly to his room --- His body guards would then go across the street to Black and fetch his sweetie pie, put her on the elevator in the main lobby up to his room so they could fuck --- True Story
Thanks for all the recommendations. I shouldn't have said that price is not an issue..it is, but I am good up to $206 USD for lodging expense. I am going to price the Four Seasons to see if they're within the budget even though this is just an overnight stay in Buenos Aires. The Etoile is a about $20 USD over, but I may be able to justify it.
Any other recommendations as far as hotels within $200 USD, to include the ideal walking distance to the locations where I need to monger at? I really don't want to take a taxi, so I prefer a location that is convenient for walking. I will be coming in from the Middle East, so I'll be jet-lagged and bone-tired and would only want to fuck and relax, and maybe even get a massage, LOL! Thanks again for the prompt replies.
Keep on having fun!
Ho_chaser,
I am staying at the Etoile next week for less than $100/night. Call them directly and you will get a better deal.
Hope this helps,
Dogus
Ho_Chaser --- I think your best option is Otto's recomendation LoisSuites on Vincente Lopez right in the heart of things --- Excellent accomadations, a truly first class hotel and very Chica friendly --- Your only other option worth considering would be the Etoile, which is truly a dog house --- I won't stay there, but it has one perk worth considering --- If you rent a diplomatic suite, (about $100 USD), it comes with a large hot tub which would easly hold 4 or 5 people --- Now consider this --- If its only going to be a one night fling you might want to consider the hot tub and hire 2 or 3 girls and make it a real fuck fest --- Have a good time and I'll bet you return to Buenos Aires --- Exon
Bad Dog #3
02-11-04, 15:49
I have to agree with Bozology regarding Argenta Towers, I was there for the past week and was not dissapointed. Call Mayra from Argentinago to get a better rate, I had a King, prepaid for around US60 including taxes and breakfast, however, I did book that before Christmas. Also, if you search the 12th floor along with the gym there is a steam room and a private room with a massage table set up, didn't use either, but its nice to know.
Baddog
White Shark
02-16-04, 18:39
Hi guys, I'm coming in BA the 23rd feb, Mayra from Argentinago.com suggest me the Murano and the Melia.
I've read many posts and both are good, anyone could suggest me from a monger point of view is better?
I'll be around for a while so if anyone would like to have a wingman, just let me know.
Mongers regards to all.
Meliá is good, but I have no experience concerning chica friendlyness.
Nice room, U$S 90,- through Mayra, free high speed internet in room.
El Alemán
JamesBond69
02-17-04, 23:45
I vote for the Etoile.
I know it's gotten a bad rap on the list, primarily from Uncle Otto, but I don't know why? Beds are bumpy? The hotel is rundown? OK, a bit but this is a true three star hotel in everyway.
The location is ideal for mongering - right between Affaire Recoleta and Blacks, the staff first rate and the price very reasonable for what you get (check with Mayra for a special rate).
And I LOVE the health club, heated pool with retractable roof on the top floor.
It's chica friendly if the chica is over 18 (fair enough)
The only bad news is that you have to pay 50 pesos extra if you want to bring in two chicas if you are into that (I'm not anymore - done that, been there)
Big deal. If you go into the Alcapulco transitorio in Recoleta will charge you an additional 125 pesos and that's just for an hour!
OttoGraham
02-18-04, 13:02
Hey James, enough of this pimping for the Etoile, when are we going to read about "Banned from Blacks" and all the other topics you promised us?
-Uncle Otto
Carlos Primeros
02-24-04, 20:47
I was in October in BA and stayed in LoiSuites in Recoleta. Excellent place, good rooms, no problem bringing girls. Only one night I had a small problem (5$ fixed it) bringing two girls back.
Mayra of Argentinago made the reservations for me. She got a little commission and I got an excellent room.
Carlos Primeros
The Murano is a nice hotel. New, free high speed Internet, frieas about 85 USD/night and a suite wandly staff, good breakfast. Right next to Cafe Excedra which puts it just a short taxi ride from the clubs in Recoleta (I recall it was 7-8 pesos). There are less expensive places as a regular room ws about 125 USD (that was through Mayra). I was very happy with the suite. No problems bringing girls back but only one at a time.
Etoile is a great location and the public area looks very nice but a lousy bed is a dealbreaker.
Which of the following has the best location in terms of being in a nice and relatively quiet neighbourhood, good surroundings, and yet close the core action areas, Murano, Melia, Loisuites Recoleta, Park Chateau Kempinski Hotel or Park Plaza Kempinski Hotel?
This is my virgin trip to BA, on business, and some pleasure ;) so appreciate all the help!
JustGotBack
03-06-04, 04:35
DFB, thanks for the review on Hotel Cristoforo Colombo. I always wondered about it. Unfortunately it's gone from a $25 hotel to a $75 one on Travelocity. Oh well, it's back to Dazzler for me.
Peter P:
LoiSuite Reoleta matches your request best, however, it is not exactly cheap. A few months back I posted on this hotel.
I just noticed that my posting on the Murano was garbled. Here's a revised posting:
The Murano is a nice hotel. New, free high speed Internet, decent sized rooms with good beds, excellent bathrooms, a friendly staff, and a good breakfast. It's right on Carlos Pelegrini and just a few doors down from Cafe Excedra. It's just a short taxi ride from the clubs in Recoleta
There are less expensive places as a regular room was about 85 USD and a suite was about 125 USD (that was through Mayra). I was very happy with the suite which included a whirlpool tub and a king bed. My room was on the front with a balcony overlooking Carlos Pelegrini (no traffic noise). No problems bringing girls but you have to register them at the desk (which I prefer anyway) and only one at a time.
The only drawback is that it's in a business area that's fairly deserted after 6pm. Good shopping in the area during the day.
Dick for Brains
03-08-04, 03:12
JustGotBack,
Sorry to hear the news about Hotel Cristoforo Colombo's price practically tripling over the last 3 months. It was a good find in a pretty cool neighborhood.
Anyone know of a decent hotel in an interesting residential neighborhood (not right in the heart of the mongering activity in Recoleta nor in Microcentre) that is fairly inexpensive, and has an indoor pool?
I'd like to return to BA sometime when it's not the summer down there but would like the option of swimming.
Thanks in advance for your help.
DfB
JustGotBack
03-08-04, 05:45
I know the Loissuites in Recoleta gets rave reviews. Has anyone ever stayed at the other ones in BA? They are less than half the cost.
Fellows,
A lot of you seems to get good hotel rates through Mayra.
Would someone please PM me her contact details.
Thanks in advance.
Junior
OttoGraham
03-08-04, 17:23
Junior, her email is MayraBrill@argentina.com.
This may be a new address for some fellows - the old one still works, but as of now she's using this email addy as much as possible.
-Uncle Otto
Nickster53
03-14-04, 02:38
A business associate has made reservations for me at the Plaza San Martin Suites. It looks like a great location. Does anyone have any information on this hotel? Is it chica friendly?
White Shark
03-14-04, 08:55
Hi guys, I will be in BA for my first time next week.
I've booked true Mayra in Murano Hotel.
Suggestion and new report about activities are welcome, if you wanna join me please PM.
MiddleAgeGuy
03-14-04, 11:11
Plaza San Martin is chica friendly. The german gal at the desk might frown a bit. I was with a chica there last year and at 4AM the front desk calls up that there is another girl here, should I send her up? I said no thanks. The other one called 15 min later and sure enough it was the one I thought. Just nice that they did not send her up. An example of good hotel managment.
Also, I suggest the exec suite so you have a seperate bedroom.
MAG
I am here at the Marbella and have discovered that the departmento or apartment is NOT an apartment with a kitchen or anything but just a big two bedroom hotel room with four beds. So, forget what I said about that. Sorry!
JustGotBack
03-14-04, 22:14
I have a question about Apart Hotel Recoleta. I've stayed there in the past and just booked it again for next week. But looking at a post from December, it seems that they have a no guest policy now. Is that still the case? If so, I need to cancel my reservation.
Hey, Guys:
For HOTEL RESERVATIONS, you know you can count on Mayra. Actually she has a big selection of hotels in different price ranges and in different areas of the city.
HER NEW EMAIL ADDRESS IS: MAYRABRILL@ARGENTINA.COM
HER NEW CELL. PHONE IS: 155 307 3300. In service since March,23rd.
Kisses, Roxana.
JustGotBack
03-17-04, 04:35
So I talked to the front desk at Apart Recoleta. They said that they still do allow guests. The only change now is that the guest has to register. I can live with it. They've always been great to me. They even allow me to check out 10 hours late on my last day without charging any extra. Good for those flights leaving at night.
Chica Seeker
03-18-04, 14:22
Based on the recommendations of other mongers, I decided to spend my first visit to BA at the Dazzler Hotel and had Mayra make the arrangements. The rate has recently been increased to $42 Am plus tax but it still appeared to be a good rate for my 2 week stay.
All I can say is that it has exceeded my expectations. The only minor complaint I have is that there is only one computer so it is hard to get on at times. However, there are 2 cyber cafes within the block where access is never a problem.
I have a nice clean room on the 11th floor overlooking the park. The bed is perfect, and the staff are great. They even forceably removed a beligerent chica at 4:00 a.m. (more about this in the 2004 reports section)
Their complementary buffet style breakfast is also tasty.
The Hotel Dazzler is good value.
White Shark
03-23-04, 17:24
I guys,
I just checked yesterday in Murano. Nice place, very friendly staff, I should really recomend the place!
JustGotBack
03-23-04, 21:41
Just to confirm. Having a guest at Apart Recoleta is not a problem. The doorman just holds onto her ID until she leaves. It´s not the fanciest place in the world, but for $41 if you pay cash or $45 by credit card you can´t beat the value considering the location.
Jaimito Cartero
03-24-04, 04:17
Chica Seeker, the computer is nice, but you have to be insistant if someone won't get off after their 15 minutes. I had some teenagers who were on for 30 minutes each, and just didn't want to leave.
I found that 3am-5am was the easiest time. This only works if you come home alone, though.
White Shark
03-24-04, 20:33
Some other pics from Murano.
Just an info from yesterday, the hotel it's been incorporated in a new hotel chain so it will be call Pestana Buenos Aires.
White Shark
03-24-04, 20:34
Another from Murano.
White Shark
03-24-04, 20:35
One reason to been in Murano.
The Jacuzzi!
The Murano is also but a few steps from Cafe Exedra. Also, when you walk to Cafe Exedra you'll pass this hole-in-the-wall bar called Imagine. I took a peek inside Imagine on a Thursday night last week and there was maybe one doable chica.
White Shark,
I second your opinion about the Murano Hotel being a great place to stay. The jacuzzi, FREE high speed internet, great location (1 block from Hooks, Catto's, Ness) and a wonderfull staff that even helped me translate and book my spanish only speaking escorts. They never gave me a hassle EVER. When I was there is was about $87/night. A very good deal especially with FREE HIGH SPEED internet.
All you wanted to know about Art Suites and more:
Small lobby with modern minimalist decor with two elevators. One located in front for the 2 bedroom apartments and another behind for the 1 bedroom apartments. Second floor apartments are used as staff offices, think the offices close at 6-7pm.
Large supermarket located a couple of blocks away; great place to stock up on goodies like half bottles of Chandon, a locally produced sparkling wine. One can get pastries, empanadas (try the ones with meat and raisins), prepared food (not really good) on the second floor of supermarket; on Saturdays, they sell grilled meats (not bad). Think they may have a delivery service; those bottles of soda, water and sparkling wines can get heavy, lol.
A pharmacy, couple of restaurants and banks are nearby.
Reasons to stay at Art Suites:
1. In-room high speed internet (One-time charge of USD30, extra USD15 if the technician has to come in). Free internet use in the office.
2. Suites have balconies except for 3rd floor where one gets a terrace.
3. Friendly staff - I recall the housecleaning ladies even telling me that I didn't have to tip them everyday. The night doorman doesn't speak much English but is very friendly and cool about the chicas.
4. Quiet, Upper middle class neighborhood located on the outer limits of Recoleta - I loved standing on the balcony during sunset and looking at the surrounding apartment blocks.
5. Reasonably priced local calls. Actually last time, they even waived the charges for my local calls, talk about customer service.
6. Reasonably priced laundry service - Did a whole load of drycleaning and got charged about 6 dollars, no mark ups here.
7. Nice, firm mattress.
8. Lots of privacy with private entrance to each apartment- think Art Suites only has 15 suites so most of the time, it feels like you're the only one staying in the building.
9. Large sliding door leading to balcony and windows in several corners of the apartment, allowing for lot of ventilation.
10. No minibar with overpriced drinks for the chicas to raid.
11. One can view the lobby via a closed circuit camera linked to the television. If you're waiting for a taxi in the lobby and do not wish to be seen, sit on the couch.
Reasons Not to stay at Art Suites:
1. Not centrally located like the Etoile
2. One has to be buzzed in at the main entrance; the older ladies on the second floor control the door in the daytime and the doorman takes over at night.
3. Some may feel uncomfortable treating it as a mongering pad with the older ladies running the place in the daytime.
4. No onsite gym but there are two gyms located a couple of blocks away.
5. Small breakfast consisting of media lunas, juice and coffee till 10am but one can easily russle up some eggs and bacon in the small kitchen.
6. No room service.
7. Limited housekeeping hours, think they leave at 2pm.
8. Not sure if night doorman has extra key if you happen to lose yours at the clubs.
9. Pretty much a DIY place. For example, if you need more towels, you probably have to go down to the office and ask.
Hi, Guys:
This post is related to Mayra's services and what is going on with her. Her partner screwed her up and Mayra is not working anymore for Argentinago.com.
This week she is starting with her own and new company, so she changed her email address and her cell. phone. She is still providing the tourist services she used to and with the same and also more dedication, because now, she understood that she works for herself and she hasn't any monthly salary; everything depends on her skills and dedication.
As I know her for almost two years, and I know how hard she likes to work and how much she likes to provide a good service and take care of the guys' needs, I am one of her supporters in her new challenge and I want to recommend as I always did, her services. Also because although we are not partners, since we first met, Jackson led us to cooperate, and we did it, and as a result we are taking care of you like a coordinated team; she provides the beds and I call the stuff to be put on the beds!!!!
So, we need to be patient with her these first weeks, she is starting again, and she really wants to work for you; the guys of the forum.
Any problem you could have with her ex agency, you'll need to solve it with them, because they want to play the fool now, and they are responsible for the services they've already arranged with you, although their best employee is not working with them anymore. But of course, you can email Mayra and as usual, she will try to help you in case you have a problem with her ex agency and if they persist in not taking responsabilities, relax, you can cancel the services with them and go straight to Mayra's, because now she is the head and she is a responsible person.
Her new email address is: MAYRABRILL@ARGENTINA.COM
Her new cell. phone is: 155 307 3300.
Kisses, Roxana.
I wish Mayra the best on her new venture and will be using her expertise for my July trip.
Starfe
After getting tons a solid referrals from quaility posters on this board (Moondog and Saint, several others) I decided to try Mayra's travel services. (Apartment, Hotel, Rent-a-Car--and plenty of restaurant recommendations).
She was, as everyone states, wonderful and trust worthy and was there for me 100% on my three weeks in BA.
I wish her the best in her new venture and encourage everyone headed to BA to use her.
LA Larry
EZE_Amante
04-06-04, 19:31
Ditto,
I too booked my accomadations (again) with Mayra´s help. As always, everything has been perfect as arranged by her. The extra mile she goes to makes all the difference for me.}
EZE
Hello Forum,
I stayed at the Dazzler last year and it was fine. No hassle with the chicas. Is the Dazzler still a visitor friendly place? Haven't heard much about it this year. Am planning a return to BA in June. Thanks.
Fellows,
Just wanted to add my recommendation of Mayra's travel services. Mayra made some flight and hotel bookings in Argentina and Brazil for me recently after she started on her own.
We made all the arrangements over the phone and a few hours later the tickets and hotel vouchers were delivered to my hotel in Buenos Aires. Everything worked well and I have already recieved the correct credit card billings.
I encourage everybody to support her small business venture.
Flexible Horn
04-17-04, 07:37
Steven,
Yes the Dazzler is still chica friendly, I was there in March.
Enjoy your June trip.
FH
Interceptor
04-19-04, 15:06
A quick note
Last time time I was in BA I spent a few nights in the Alvear Hotel a very plush hotel right in front of Black's. No problem to bring in a lady. The service is sooo good that they check on her ID upon leaving. Talk about privacy for the gentleman.
I was also at the Caesar Park (the place looks nice but bathrooms are small and the air conditioning was working very badly). The lady registered with me upon arrival and left freely.
I will be back in BA next week and I just can't wait.
OttoGraham
05-06-04, 10:46
On my most recent visit I stayed for the first time at the Hilton Puerto Madero, which I highly recommend. The only possible downside to this place is its location. Out of the hub-bub of Microcentro and Recoleta, this can be both a plus and a minus.
-Uncle Otto
I'm looking for a cheap hotel {US$20-25 daily} for 2 weeks in July. My only concerns are cleanliness and quiet in either B Norte, Congesso, or similar area close in. I don't need guests in room as I prefer albergues{sp?} for nightly activities.
Does anyone know any of these places?
Hotel Eleven Palace
Hotel Lyon
Hotel Prince
Hotel Republica
Gran Hotel Argentino
They all look real charming on the internet, but we have all been fooled by internet pictures before.
Thanks in advance.
I've been to Buenos Aires 2 times (2000 and 2002) and each time I stayed at the Phoenix Hotel.
Its on San Martin close to Avenida Cordoba, across the street from Orleans Cafe. They charge $50ar a nite if you pay cash. A nice hotel, friendly staff that speaks some English there. Clean rooms, queen size beds (a little lumpy mattresses) and a BIG buffet breakfast each morning thats included in the price.
And the best thing, they are chica friendly. They do check the woman's ID and will make her register. But its at no extra price.
Anyway, I'll be in BA later in the year and looking forward to staying there. So long.
Seismo, I can recommend the Gran Hotel Vedra in the 1300 block of Avenida de Mayo (Congreso), south side of the street, for less than $20 US per day, breakfast included. A bit shabbier but with a very nice staff is Hotel Marbella, 42 pesos a day (cash or credit card and they do take Amex), on the north side of the 1200 block of Avenida de Mayo. Breakfast also included. In either case, try to get an interior room and/or bring earplugs. Vedra charges a bit more for the interior rooms but that is offset by a discount for stays of four or more nights (Marbella doesn't offer that).
Just a quick note about the Dazzler. They are so chica friendly they would have carried the women up to the room for me.
I like that it is nicer than other hotels this chica friendly. I saw 2 of those in hanging with other mongers. I have the money, so it is worth it. If this matters to you, I highly recommend it. Is it really that much money? Not really.
I even got to BA earlier than expected and they let me into a clean room at 10 am (instead of the regular 3 pm check-in) so I could nap before heading out for my first mongering session.
Does anybody has any experience with the Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel on Florida in Centro? It is a fairly new hotel and looks luxurious. I heard it is chica friendly, but want to hear some first hand experience.
Bandy
Bandy,
Can't give you first hand experience but I'm staying there on an upcoming trip based Mayra's recommendation (despite my misgivings about the HoJo name).
Easy Go
Bennie stayed there. PM him.
Mickey Mouse
07-20-04, 12:00
I have had a couple requests concerning the Hot Tub in the Hotel. I stay at The Grand Boulevard Hotel (.com) and get the executive suite. My price (I have stayed there a lot) is < $100 us/ night including a breakfast buffet (which I rarely make) and taxes. You will have to check with them about todays going rates.
They are "Extremely Chica Friendly"!
MM
Bennie:
Thanks for the info regarding HO JO Plaza. In fact, I received a PM from another poster who echoed your observation. However, he suggested higher floors due to street noise from Florida. I will be there only for three nights and then for the rest of my stay moving to the best apartment in the heart of Recoleta.
Bandy
AllIWantIsLove
07-23-04, 20:15
May I request that when you post about a particular hotel that your include the URL for the hotel's web site, if they have one and if you know it?
It is nearly impossible to find a hotel's web site on the web. No matter how I search I get hundreds, even thousands, of hits. This is because you get a hit for every travel agency and web site in the world which can make you a reservation at the hotel. Of course such web sites never provide a link to the hotel's web page because they do not want you dealing directly with the hotel. Even telling Google that I want only web sites which contain the hotel in the url did not help significantly.
I like to have as much info as possible before deciding on a hotel and I've found that only a hotel's web page comes close to providing the amount of detail I like to have.
For others having this problem I have found only one technique which helps, sometimes. If the hotel you are interested in is part of a major chain you can generally guess at the name of the corporate web site, e.g. www.westin.com, and then find the hotel's web page from there.
Thanks,
Bob
Ho Jo Plaza at Florida and Santa Fe (or Paraguay) was exactly what other mongers have described. New facility, quiet, and extremely chica friendly. Chicas must register at the desk. The breakfast, though, is very ordinary. No hot stuff. Rate was 62 USD per night (prepaid as cash) including everything.
Bandy
Can anybody give me an opinion on the Gran Hotel Buenos Aires, will be staying there for a week in Sept. Like how are the beds, is elevator small? (will be with child in stroller) is it noisy from street?and of course I need to know if I am able to escape for a short time, where i can walk to close by for some quick fun. It is located at Marcelo T. De Alvear in central area. Would much appreciate any info.
Thanks
AllIWantIsLove
08-20-04, 14:06
Looking for a Recommendation and some other Hotel Questions
Can you guys recommend a hotel which meets the following requirements - chica friendly (¡cómo no!), CD player, quiet rooms (I live in a very quiet neighborhood and have trouble sleeping when a hotel room is not sufficiently quiet), a free and good breakfast included (as I never eat lunch), queen size bed, and a shower large enough for two (or maybe even three - funds and energy permitting!). Also, no insects or rodents and not a fire trap. I know that these requirements eliminate the least expensive places, but my funds are limited.
Also, would I get the best rate by calling the hotel myself, asking my favorita to call, or using Mayra (if that spelling is correct)? And, by the way, is Mayar a hotel finder, i.e. could I ask her to find me a hotel meeting my requirements, or is her service limited to hotel reservation making?
Thanks Gents,
Bob
HobbyInHouston
08-20-04, 21:12
Hola All,
I will be staying at the LoiSuites in Recoletta. I read a report some time past that said it was no longer girl friendly. Is this still true. I have tried a search but it has been down for a few days.
Thanks
Hi, Guys:
This is an offer provided by Mayra and Roxana :)
4 nights at the Howard Johnson Florida (4****) hotel with breakfast and taxes included, PLUS 5 appointments for US$ 290.
* King size beds
* Internet access in the room included
You need to book it through Mayra at:
MAYRA@ARGENTINATRAVELSERVICES.COM
MAYRABRILL@ARGENTINA.COM
*It's a pre paid package. NO REFUNDS on hotel and appts. Extra appts. will be paid separately.
*Pick up at the airport, provided by Ana. You pay her directly and separately.
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY, SPRING IN BUENOS AIRES IS COMING!!!!
Kisses, Roxana.
Hobbyinhouston,
LoiSuites in Recoletta is very girl friendly.
AllIWantisLove,
Mayra will find a hotel or Apt. as per your need. Why don't you forward this post to Mayra. She is great for these kind of services.
Bandy
Big Boss Man
08-24-04, 01:06
I recently stayed at the LoiSuites in Recoletta. The location is excellent and there is no problem with the women guests. They do not check ID at the desk if you walk in with the lady. If the lady comes to the hotel alone they will stop her and call to see if she was invited.
If you come in alone at night the front desk clerks will ask if you want some company. The cost is $300 pesos. Several men avail themselves of this service. Some of the ladies come from Newport which is right around the corner. I actually used this service twice when I wanted a short night. Both times the ladies were good looking but one left something to be desired when her clothes came off.
The guidebooks say that this is very quiet hotel with thick walls but I found it to be a little noisey. I was on a lower floor in a junior suite. The disco music from the bars played to 4:00 AM. I wore earplugs. I would use the hotel again but pay up for a higher floor and an executive suite. Everybody says that you cannot take it with you and I have no heirs.
I booked through Mayra who provides excellent service.
Tampa Lust II
08-27-04, 16:12
Does anyone have any info on the Intercontinental Hotel in BA...is it chica friendly?
Thanks
Hi, Guys:
Intercontinental Hotel is chica's friendly, no problem. ;)
Kisses, Roxana.
Anyone have any info on Gran Hotel M.T. Alvear? Chica Friendly? Is hotel nice?
Thanks in advance, for any info.
Crowne Plaza Panamericano
I had to stay there (my boss was staying there, and you don't argue with your boss), but I cannot recommend it.
The regular rooms (US 80 per day, corporate rate!! in B.A.!!) are in the old tower, and are so cramped that I was able to change TV channels with my left foot. Closets were nearly inexistents, and the view is the 20-story wall of the other part of the building.
On the bright side, the breakfast service and the pool are quite enjoyable.
They are guest friendly, leaving an ID for the pax safety.
Internet is outrageous:they charged the same amount that in the wi-fi zone of the airports (US3 per hour), while you can walk a few yards in the street and use a broadband connection (in a cramped cubicle, though) for 15 cents.
Hi Guys
I am looking for a hotel up to about $180/night in November.
Which area/ hotel would you suggest.
I am thinking of around the Marriott or the Recoletta area.
I was looking for a safe area near to the normal bars and clubs, but not too far from the pro places.
I read the Kilkenny is very good, near the Marriott.
Not sure if it's any good for non pros though?
Thanks
The Marriott is excellent and in a perfect location for the triangle clubs, but is a short cab ride away from the Recoleta clubs.
The Marriott will be about 150 with a 21 percent tax that will take it up to about 180, at least a recent check of their web site indicated that.
As far as non-pro activities go, some one else needs to comment.
Stormy
Mickey Mouse
09-18-04, 21:52
TM,
I concur with Stormy. If you're interested in Recoleta, Loi Suites (look under Argentina links) is the Best of the Bunch that I have tried.
MM
PS. Stay away from Etoile if you like Marriotts
TM,
I stayed at the Pestana earlier this month and liked it. A suite with a king bed, whirlpool tub, free high speed Internet, and full breakfast was $U159/night booked through Mayra. Good location if you want to be near the triangle.
I also stayed at the Howard Johnson on Florida. It's $U65/night for a standard room through Mayra. It's very close to the Marriott. Don't let the name fool you, it's a nice hotel. King bed, high speed internet, and breakfast (but not as good as the Pestana). Only drawback is that it's right on the mall so it's a short walk from a taxi. I didn't like it as much as the Pestana but then it's quite a bit cheaper.
The whole Marriott/Pestana/HJ area is more deserted at night than Recoleta which gives it a different, less safe, feel. I've never heard about any problems in the area but perhaps somebody with more local knowledge can comment about safety. I've spent about a dozen nights there and never had a problem but that doesn't really mean much.
Easy Go
It puzzles me that a couple of guys have posted that the area around the Howard Johnson has an "unsafe feel." That is my turf and I wander around there very late at night quite frequently, usually quite drunk, and I've never felt unsafe. I'm not a big guy either, although I am a mean son of a *****.
Thanks guys.
I am surprised.
I thought most of the nightlife was around the Marriott area, and only the pro bars were in Recoleta.
I had planned to do some normal bars first.
But if there is not much around the Marriott I must re-consider.
Normally the Marriott's have the best location. I thought the airline staff stay there.
Thanks again
DH,
You've never had a problem and I've never had a problem but that doesn't keep deserted areas late at night from making me nervous. My guess is that it's safer than it feels.
Some of my nervousness might be from Rio being my first exposure to South America. Wandering around Copa at night alone is asking for trouble. More likely it's from living in a marginal part of Brooklyn for a couple of years when I was in my early 20's.
Easy Go
Dodger Bulldog
09-23-04, 20:48
A fellow monger PM'ed me for my thoughts on where to stay. I wrote this and tried to send it but then his mailbox was full. Rather than waste all of that effort, I decided to post it so that he can see it. Perhaps it will be useful to someone else.
As far as where to stay, I guess a lot depends on how well off you are and how much you are willing to spend. I'm a poor teacher, so I had to go cheap.
I live in Florida and found a package deal out of Miami from an agency: www.analietours.com. Both times I went it covered airfare, hotel with breakfast, transfer to and from the airport, a 3 hour bus tour (which sucked), and supplement for traveling single, for $885 the first time and $995 the second. The second time was on one day notice, with a direct flight, and I picked a little bit more expensive hotel because of the location.
Forget the city tour and take one with Roxana. She will teach you the real history of the country from a populist point of view. She is a delight and it is well worth spending time with her!
The first hotel was better, the Savoy Golden Tulip. Not fancy, but no problems at all. A bit away from the downtown, by the Congress, but less than a five peso taxi ride to anything I wanted to see. Still a vibrant area in the middle of the city.
The second was the Waldorf Hotel, which has a great sounding name but had a lot of problems. Very little hot water, lots of noise, worthless breakfast, problems with the phone. But it was one block from Cafe Orleans and Cutty Sark, six blocks from the Golden Triangle, and eight blocks from Excedra. The location was awesome but I wouldn't stay there again. There are other hotels similarly located that must be better.
Maybe I should have been afraid walking this route alone as late as 4 AM, but I never felt the least bit threatened.
The other area that guys stay is at Recoleta. Much more upscale than my city location. It is considerably more touristy and Americanized, and more expensive, but not prohibitively so. I want to one fellows "Diplomatic Suite" at the Etoille Hotel there, and it was absolutely awesome - three rooms, large balcony with a great view of the cemetary and the river, a Jacuzzi, wet bar, etc. He said that he paid only $68 US per night but I don't know if believe him. He did say that he booked it through Mayra from the board, so I would ask her if she can get that rate for you.
There are many other choices, but the first thing is to decide if you want to be downtown or in Recoleta. I love the pulse of the city so it was downtown for me.
DB
Daddy Rulz
09-27-04, 19:44
My Hotels
Cheap
Victory Hotel:
Maipu entre Paraguay y Cordoba. I don't know the phone or address but it's there. You can't miss it. it's the one on the right closer to Paraguay than Cordoba with the Big Assed sign running down the front of the building that says
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It's about $20.00 a night and Peter the very old guy on the desk at night can get you chicas for 90 to 110 pesos. They will never be on the cover of Cosmo but for 100 pesos in room service what can you expect. I have also discovered a lower starting price from the chicas at Madahos and in the triangle when I stay there. One of the first questions they ask is what hotel are you staying in. If your at the Alvear Palace then the price goes up, when you stay at a backpackers hotel the price seems to come down a bit.
The rooms are VERY small but clean with a private bathroom. being small the mirror over the dresser is right next to the bed so that's kinda fun. The area is a bit dodgy but I sort of like that. All in all it's tough to beat for the price.
A little more
Loi Suites Esmeralda:
A small chain in BsAs they have the nice hotel around the corner from Newport. This one is on Marcelo T de Alvear between Suipacha and Esmeralda. Why they don't call it Loi Suites Marcelo T de Alvear is beyond me because it's not on Esmeralda.
The rooms are a bit bigger, the lobby a bit nicer. It's major advantage is it's about 40 fucking steps from the Triangle. Ok maybe 100 steps but it's close. I paid $35.00USD a night but told them I worked for an airline and think I got a discount, I'm not sure. They never asked for proof of employment so perhaps not.
It's a decent hotel, not to loud ok beds and a great price, breakfast is included.
A little bit more
Suites Mayflower:
Paraná 720 a small boutique hotel with only about 40 rooms. It's in the middle of San Nicolas between Viamonte and Cordoba near nothing but close to everything. The majority of my visits I stayed here and was very happy. They ask for $60.00 USD but I paid $40.00 (again the airline discount but no proof required) I love this hotel for a number of reasons. It's small and the staff is outstanding. One time we were checking in and my buddy asked me for a light. The bellman didn't remember who needed a light so He brought us all lighters to our rooms. One of the guys didn't even smoke. The night guy Eban will take good care of you. If you bring a chica to your room he holds them in the lobby when they leave and gives you a call to make sure everything is ok. Excellent service. The rooms are ok but they have 4 Sr rooms I recommend springing the extra for. All four have a terrace and whirlpool baths and big beds. Breakfast is included
As an extra bonus, they have a deal with Southern Winds Airline where they trade rooms for flight crews for flight vouchers which they turn around and sell. This gives you two things, one cheap travel in the interior and two there are always 30 to 40 smoking hot young flight attendents staying at this hotel. I took a few of them out and slept with one of them. It is indeed a target rich environment.
About a year ago they just stopped having rooms for me. I don't know why but every time I emailed them they said they were full. I think it's because they were getting full price for their rooms and didn't want to discount one to me. I really can't recommend them too highly. I miss staying there and may just have to pay the full rate to return.
Now I stay at the Wilton Palace and am happy with them. they are a little bigger of a hotel and I like the location better. It's on Callao between Sante Fe and Arnales. Good service, decent rooms, nice gym on the top floor and a two minute walk to 1707. I pay $45.00 USD.
Etoile hotel:
Stayed 2 nites in a diplomatic suite..smelled like crap, awful carpet, needed paint badly and all in all a 2 star hotel. stay away.
Loi suites recoleta...if you have the money to spend, this is the place in recoleta. Beautiful rooms, great staff and quiet. Steep at 110 us a nite.
Apartments in Recoleta are plentiful and spent most of my 3 weeks in one. Just plan in advance and you can find one for 30-50 dollars us a night.
JackDaniels
10-09-04, 14:50
I stayed at the Kempsinki Park Chateau in Recoletta - friendly staff but I do not recall exactly how much I paid per night but it was reasonable. Probably $70 per night. Also girl friendly. Hope it still is. Anyone stayed there recently ?
Does anyone know anything about Hotel Bel Air? I am going to be down in BA first week of December with a group and they booked me in there. Wondering if anyone is familiar with it and it's policies.
Thanks!
I stayed there in March and liked it a lot mostly because it was an easy 10 minute walk to 1707 SF. Great when you have the urge for a quickie and you don't have to wonder who you're going to call. Other pros: all rooms have safe for your valuables, staff speaks excellent English, the breakfast spread in the basement is impressive and not to be missed. It's there until 10:30AM and included in the room rate. Location is excellent and safe, close to shopping on Santa Fe and about a 3-5 peso cab ride to Recoleta or Triangle clubs. Cons: they've raised the rates for all rooms since I've been there. Only showers, no bathtubs as I recall. Go for the Superior Double.
WW
Receptionist will call you before they would allow the chica to come up to your room. If you walk in with a chica, there is no need to check her in at the front desk.
WW
Hi, Guys:
Because of the changes that Jackson is doing with the forum and the software, I am still having problems to receive and send emails from my normal email address as it is located in the same server. It will need some more days until everything is right again so meanwhile please, send me your emails to ROXANAWSG@HOTMAIL.COM
I couldn't receive any email since last Sunday, so please, send them again to this subsidiary address, and as usual I will answer them and help you with your trip to Argentina.
Kisses, Roxana
JackDaniels
10-23-04, 16:12
I did not get a response from anyone on this hotel - looks like no one interested in the hobby has stayed there (except myself) ? However, when I did stay there about 2 years ago, they were quite relaxed about chicas coming in. I wonder if they still operate the same way.
Iron Jack Read
11-02-04, 22:16
To the frequent visitors or locals of BA-
I searched this forum thread and didn't find any hits for the Marriott. Can anyone tell me if the Marriott Plaza Hotel (Florida 1005) is "chica friendly". Is this hotel relatively close to the Magic Triangle (or quadrangle) of Catto, Ness & Hook?
Happy trails,
Iron Jack
Does anyone know if this hotel is guest friendly?
Thanks in advance.
Steve
Hi, guys:
INTERCONTINENTAL is chicas' friendly, no problem.
Avoid BISONTE HOTEL, is not chicas' friendly anymore.
The hotels in Argentina are usually chicas' friendly, because it's considered that you are paying for a room and what you do inside is part of your private life.
Kisses, Roxana.
Does anyone know if this hotel is guest friendly?
Thanks in advance.
Steve
Avoid Bisonte hotel anyway because the beds are terrible. My back hurt so bad after three days there I had to leave. Also the desk clerks are snotty, and also most don't speak any English (if that matters to you). Place sucks, overall.
Does anyone know if this hotel is guest friendly?
Thanks in advance.
Steve
As Roxana said it is no problem, but the girls have to have the proper documention with them or they will not be allowed up.
Moondog
I know this might not be the right place to post, but I have a question. I am making my fifth trip to BA in February, and I have always stayed at the Alvear Palace. Very chica friendly, and very close to Black. I am curious however about the Four Seasons. Any recommendations? Are they chica friendly? How much further away is it from Black? Thanks in advance. Feel free to post or PM me.
MiddleAgeGuy
12-02-04, 22:59
Avoid the Holiday Inn on Cordoba and Alem if you are looking for Chica Friendly. The desk clerk, if they are around, says they do not allow female guests, lots of 'this is the last time' stuff.
No problem if the desk clerk is not around as the door man is no problem.
MAG
Art Fartzalot
12-26-04, 18:05
Can I bring a gal back with me here as planning on staying here Jan 11 & 12th. Thanks.
Art
Anybody know if the Victory Hotel and Loi Suites Esmeralda have websites?
Are the prices still USD$20 nite at Victory and USD$35 nite at Loi Suites Esmeralda?
Thanks!
HappyGoLucky
12-30-04, 01:07
Here's the Victory Hotel:
http://www.victoryhotel.com.ar/
And here's the Loisuites Esmeralda:
http://www.loisuites.com.ar/Esmeraldasp.htm
Can I bring a gal back with me here as planning on staying here Jan 11 & 12th. Thanks.
ArtEmperador has no problems with you bringing girls back to the room. They do have to register in most instances.
Hope that helps.
Have fun!
Beckset
Daddy Rulz
12-30-04, 04:33
As the original reviewer of these hotels, please allow me to add my .02 centavos. I was going to get a fellow mongerer a room at the Loi Suites the last week of October past and the price was U$S 40.00. Then I was going to make a reservation in November, they only had a suite available and it was u$s 60.00. If you stay at the Victory, the night desk man Peter, will be glad to hook you up. The girls he gets range from 4's to 8's (ask for Bebe if she's available) and most of them are agency girls so service is completa. The last time he hooked me up it was around 80 peso's an hour. Look for that price to be higher but probably not more than 120 per hour. I would use him as a last resort. If I found no good valus in the clubs I would order room service, sort of assisted masturbation. Please slip him 5 or 10 pesos as a tip. he does make a commision on the deal but I'm of the opinion you can't be in too good with the night guys.
Oh yes, the rooms at the Victory are small, the beds are small but decent and the pillows suck. If you go out at night, slip the desk guy a couple pesos's and he will keep your electricity on. Otherwise they turn it off and it will be hot as hell when you get back. Most of the rooms have a dresser right next to the bed with a mirror over it. It's positioned well for watching.
Hello all,
Happy holidays!
Would anyone be able to tell me if the Hilton @ Macacha Guemes is chica friendly? If she shows up around midnight? or with me around the same time?
Thanks!
B.
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