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This new place is just around the corner from Madahos, next to Sodoma on Vicente Lopez. Touted as a new club it's a 40 peso entrada with the same variable number of drinks for the entrada as Rouge. After 3 minutes inside the same Rouge criminal element started to appear. Guaranteed rip off prices, hassles and worse.
Highly recommend you avoid.
Aramis Col
08-21-06, 15:47
This is correct, the same greek manager from Rouge is in Hellas (these means Greace)
Regards
DO NOT go EVER to KA barette the one just next door from Exedra.
They scammed me out whit 300 Dlls. They have no good girls and the only good ones DO NOT work as escorts.
They lied to me and I had to paid the drink for a dancer. And after the show they told me she DOES NOT have sex whit clients.
EYE: I asked before if she could go out. They said YES. After 3 drinks she left and I had to pay 150 pesos for each drink. I wasss pissed! Then they call then Super Star, a very hot morocha that makes a College girl Show.
400 pesos for a PRO sex. Like riding a Mechanic Bull.
Totaly bad the actitude. To make some pesos don't care about thier reputation. Stupid way of the Porte~os to make business. Loosers!
Hella's in Recoletta. Next door from Madahos. Same Story.
300 pesos for 2 drinks whit the resepcionist that is the only good one in my opinion (that day) after the drinks she sudenly felt "sick" and had her period! I demanded for my money back, but guess what! Of corse they ratter loose 100 clients than 300 pesos. Fk Them! DO NOT GO EVER>>!
I couldn't believe it! Also in Recoletta they work this way.
I learned my lesson long time ago but they got me again as an amateur, my mojo did not let me think clear =(those girls where super hot, the perfect hook for the stupid turist.
I just wanted to report this so they can learn a lesson too.
Jackson bro. It was very nice to meet you in person. You are a real Macanudo guy.
Abrazos.
DeAldo
DO NOT go EVER to KA barette the one just next door from Exedra.
They scammed me out whit 300 Dlls. They have no good girls and the only good ones DO NOT work as escorts.
DeAldoThis location sounds like the place called "Imagine" on Carlos Pelligrini - a well known rip off joint.
BeachBoyzh
01-10-07, 17:57
Unfortunately didn't read this one in time and went to Hella's last night. The barkeeper told me that one 'trago' of 70 Pesos is needed for the girl before I walk with her. When I ordered the check, they suddently charged 120Pesos! I told them I would either pay them 70 and take the girl, or pay 120 and walk away. After I paid 120 and left, the owner (or manager) followed me outside, apologized and gave me the money back, saying it was a misunderstanding. I took the girl, brought her down from 300Pesos to 200 for one hour, but after the first round she didn't want to go on and was referring to the special price she made. I can only reiterate what everyone else is saying – A V O I D.
OMGHereICome
03-14-07, 04:08
I agree the price of 70 Pesos for a drink is outrageous.
However, I had a nice time, there were 20+ girls and hmm me.
Anyways. Believe me I didn't buy them a drink until I was sure which girl it was going to be if any.
1 Hour is 300 pesos. Like at most of the clubs. I tried to negocitate but to no avail. Its was my first real nite at a club. And I would give it a above average experience.
Entrance is 40 Pesos. It included o drinks for me. I had Baileys, and a champagne. So not to bad.
I don't mind spending the 70 and the 40. As long as I have a great time with good company. For me it paid off. I will add posts this week. For other clubs.
Regards OMG
Out for Flesh
03-14-07, 15:02
I agree the price of 70 Pesos for a drink is outrageous.
However, I had a nice time, there were 20+ girls and hmm me.
Anyways. Believe me I didnt buy them a drink until I was sure which girl it was going to be if any.
1 Hour is 300 pesos. Like at most of the clubs. I tried to negocitate but to avail. Its was my first real nite at a club. And I would give it a above average experience.
Entrance is 40 Pesos. It includded o drinks for me. I had Baileys, and a champagne. So not to bad.
I don't mind spending the 70 and the 40. As long as I have a great time with good company. For me it paid off. I will add posts this week. For other clubs.
Regards OMGOMG,
70 pesos a drink is more than outrageous. 300 pesos a chick is not less outrageous. 40 pesos entrance is, for me, a sign that I should turn around and go fishing somewhere else.
You are of course free to do whatever you want with your money. But you can definitely get value for less money. Hope you find out in other clubs!
I think that OMG and OutforFlesh are both completely missing the point. The argument over whether the place is overpriced or not is secondary at best. This place is managed by a guy who has directly and physically participated in the detention and physical beating of at least two well known contributors to this forum, after refusing their requests to bring the police in to get the situation under control. Get it? AVOID.
OMGHereICome
03-19-07, 19:41
I've been treated quite well at the club. Not on the avoid list for me.
There is pressure to buy drinks for the girls. But take your time. Make sure you like them before.
Its a recoleta club so the prices are in line with the other clubs in recoleta.
I'm wondering what the guys did to get beat up. Don't see a problem there.
Its pretty clear, how all those clubs work in that area.
There are some nice girls there. Not as many as the other clubs, but you can find like 15-20. Enjoy.
Regards.
OMG
Readers, please do not listen to OMG and put yourselves at risk in Hellas. He said.
"I'm wondering what the guys did to get beat up." I know those guys and they are experienced, very sharp guys, and they were attacked because they challenged a rip-off. Because he (OMG) has had no problems means nothing. Two sharp guys were seriously attacked there and OMG wonders why because he has had no problems. Apparently some people are so stupid they cannot learn from others experience. All these joints are potentially bad, some are much worse than others and it is the purpose of this board to try to help people with info in this regard. This is one of those places.
Before we scare off BA visitors: other than Hellas and Rouge, the clubs in the Recoleta zone are all safe so long as you do not act recklessly.
OMG is reporting what he has seen, but the prior incident involving Rouge/Hellas joint management was not the kind of thing that could occur very often without serious police intervetion. That OMG did not see them in 'tough' mode during three visits is not proof that there is 'no problema' with Rouge and Hellas.
Its not the 70 pesos to 120 pesos switch I am concerned about. That is annoying. What is more serious is the beating incident prior described in the Rouge thread.
Use common sense here. Of course some individuals may enjoy themselves in an out-of-control ripoff joint. They may not know better, they may not have been targeted for a ripoff, or they might not even care if they're being taken to the cleaners, so long as they enjoy themselves.
On the other hand, bad experiences are also certainly possible even in places that are "Argentina Private Certified". It all depends on the individual, his tastes, his characteristics, and his behavior.
"Caveat Monger"
(Probably the two most important pieces of advice I can dispense here are: 1. Don't get overly intoxicated in these clubs; and 2. Always monger with a wingman.)
OMGHereICome
03-20-07, 16:11
All the best to you in mongering land.
Regards.
OMG
Daddy Rulz
03-20-07, 17:01
Before we scare off BA visitors: other than Hellas and Rouge, the clubs in the Recoleta zone are all safe so long as you do not act recklessly.Yes but don't forget about the RATS, and the machine gun toting cops, and the killer hookers that slip a roro in your beer and then their pimps beat you, steal your money and cut your dick off and let you bleed to death in an alley so that all of your family will know you died a dickless death.
STAY AWAY FROM ARGENTINA IT'S NOT SAFE!
Go to Columbia or Iran, both much better and safer.
Go to Columbia or Iran, both much better and safer.Or the Dominican Republic or Haiti.
Hnar hnar hnar.
WorldTravel69
05-24-07, 16:43
A non member tourist went into this place. He had drinks for himself only.
I believe he sat down order a drink and 2 chicas sat on either side of him and drinks where bought for him and the chicas.
He went to pay his bill and the bartender said he owed 350p. He said no, he just ordered his drink not anyone elses. He put money on the bar for his drink and started to walk out, two or three guys grab him, wrestled him to the ground and took his wallet out.
They took US$300.
Flexible Horn
05-24-07, 19:38
I've been treated quite well at the club. Not on the avoid list for me.
There is pressure to buy drinks for the girls. But take your time. Make sure you like them before.
Its a Recoleta club so the prices are in line with the other clubs in Recoleta.
I'm wondering what the guys did to get beat up. Don't see a problem there.
Its pretty clear, how all those clubs work in that area.
There are some nice girls there. Not as many as the other clubs, but you can find like 15-20. Enjoy.
Regards.
OMGSee this place is a RIPOFF JOINT, people just don't make these storys up. AVOID!
Monday Night
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A non member tourist went into this place. He had drinks for himself only.
I believe he sat down order a drink and 2 chicas sat on either side of him and drinks where bought for him and the chicas.
He went to pay his bill and the bartender said he owed 350p. He said no, he just ordered his drink not anyone elses. He put money on the bar for his drink and started to walk out, two or three guys grab him, wrestled him to the ground and took his wallet out.
They took US$300.
Hellas, Sodoma and Brut are three Recoleta clubs right next to each other in Vincente Lopez and right around the corner from Madahoes. On recent evening (Friday and tonight, Tuesday) I've dropped in to all three just to have a look and to check our chica quality and prices. 40p is the entry fee which gives you two drinks in Brut and Hellas and one drink in Sodoma. Depending on the evening on how busy they are this seems to be negotiable. This evening at 1230, I negotiated two drinks for 25p at Brut which comes out cheaper than the 14p per drink you now pay at Newport. If you ask, before you pay your 40p the doorman will let you have a look inside to see if you like the place and the chicas on offer. They will also let you do this at most other Recoleta clubs. Tonight there were 11 girls in Brut and I was the only guy. Last Friday at around 3am a similar story at all three clubs with a small number of girls and very few guys, all locals I believe. Big contrast with Madahoes. Inside all thee clubs are similar - small, seedy and dark - with a single bar area and tables scattered around. There are curtained off rooms at the back with couches where you can do the deed if you're in a hurry and don't mind the fact that anyone might walk in any time though the curtain. Chica take out drinks are 60p and there seemed to be no pressure by the girls to buy them a drink, unless you really have decided to take them out. I chatted to seven girls in the three clubs for five or ten minutes each. They all started out asking US100 or 300p for an hour but after some hesitation accepted my offer of 200p. In general standard of girls was way well below Black or Madahoe, but there were a few girls I might try in the future if the mood takes me. In Brut tonight for example, there was an attractive little Portena spinner I quite fancied and a nice looking Colombian negra, if that's your thing. Looking back at posts for last year, some people seemed to have had serious problems with Hellas and Somoma. I can't say in my short visits that I felt at all threatened.
I was there two days ago and they FORCE me to pay 100 pesos with this Copa thing. THEY ARE ROBBERS and their objective is to get as much as they can using physical force to intimidate you.
NEVER EVER EVER GO TO HELLAS and I would say to avoid go to Recoleta's night clubs.
Better, NEVER trust on any ARGENTINIAN night club, as their business has nothing to do with people entertainment and satisfaction. They are so business blind that focus on get 100 pesos only one time than treat well their customers and increase their revenue with customer satisfaction. People with no long term vision.
I was there two days ago and they FORCE me to pay 100 pesos with this Copa thing. THEY ARE ROBBERS and their objective is to get as much as they can using physical force to intimidate you.
NEVER EVER EVER GO TO HELLAS and I would say to avoid go to Recoleta's night clubs.
Better, NEVER trust on any ARGENTINIAN night club, as their business has nothing to do with people entertainment and satisfaction. They are so business blind that focus on get 100 pesos only one time than treat well their customers and increase their revenue with customer satisfaction. People with no long term vision.Hi Kataputa,
Welcome to the Forum.
That's why there's a big red :x-mark: next to the Hellas name on my Clubs and Boliches List.
http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1702
Thanks,
Jackson
Use this website to avoid problems.
Everything on Jacksons lists are safe and very good quality.
Do not stay away from Recoleta.
Madaho and Shampoo is top in BA.
Art Vandalay
10-26-09, 20:04
My buddy and I went into Hella's around 5am and there were about 10 girls working in there. We wouldn't have gone but it was the only place that was open at that hour. There were about 10 girls working in there. Some decent looking and one extremely cute little spinner named Angie. I asked her how much to go out and she said she charges a minimum of $100 USD or 400p. She seemed pretty adamant about it until I offered 300p and she agreed.
Here's the confusing part. She says she needs to go check on something (I'm guessing another possible customer) and sure enough she goes and sits next to some young Argie. She gets dressed and comes back and asks if I still want to go out with her. I said yes but she wouldn't go to my apartment alone unless my buddy took her friend back to the apartment too. He was interested and when I tried to negotiate a price for him the other girl said 500p and wouldn't budge. In the end we decided to leave and kept our money. We both got the feeling that neither girl would've provided that great or service.
By the way, the exit drink for the girls was 140p and when we arrived we paid 50p for 2 drinks for each of us.
These guys are definately the most aggresive touts in the area. I have been to Recoleta a few times this week and they were always in my face, even as far down the street as La Lopez, and once when I was in a taxi (stopped) and the window was open this guy put his arms part way in and tried to sell me on going to Hellas. He was persistent and wouldn't leave for almost a minute.
Franky Double
08-28-10, 02:05
I have just been royally ripped off. I tried to avoid being given one of those business cards while walking on Florida. Somehow this one guy was very persistent. He gave me the card and promised "only look, only look"
Like a twat I follow him into Viamonte 623 (Lee Palace)
This one blonde chica grabs me and take me to a corner. Rubbing me and kissing me. She ask if I want to buy a drink for myself. Sure, I want a Coca Cola. In comes the other chica and starts rubbing me as well, and followed by a lday who plonks down a 500ml Coca Cola and a drink for each girl. The nshe starts harrassing me for 1x girl @ 240peso and my drink @ 60 peso. So I think to myself this girl is not too bad and I know of the cover in club so 240+60 is fine.
However this damn woman keeps harassing me for 240peso more. After I've given her 300peso. Turns out the fact that I allowed the 2nd girl to touch me means I have to buy her a drink, which costs 240peso. So they INSIST on me paying 60 + 240 + 240peso. I bluntly refused as I only had 300peso on me but even if I had the extra I would not have paid for the finest chica in the club and the house pig (thanks Jackson for imprinting that image)
Anyways I made it out of their after having an argument with the drinks woman and some guy (the owner? Or the bouncer? I left without ANY service, I paid 300peso basically for a 500ml Coca Cola.
Please all newbies. Like me. Be carefull and don't get ripped off like I did. I probably won't even go to a cafe or restaurant in the next two weeks in fear of a repeat episode. Makes me sick.
Please all newbies. Like me. Be carefull and don't get ripped off like I did. I probably won't even go to a cafe or restaurant in the next two weeks in fear of a repeat episode. Makes me sick.Thanks for sharing your experience because this happens to a lot of people and there is very little you can do in the situation.
Welcome to Buenos Aires where you always have to watch your back.
Like a twat I follow him into Viamonte 623 (Lee Palace)
Anyways I made it out of their after having an argument with the drinks woman and some guy (the owner? Or the bouncer? I left without ANY service, I paid 300peso basically for a 500ml Coca Cola.
Please all newbies. Like me. Be carefull and don't get ripped off like I did. I probably won't even go to a cafe or restaurant in the next two weeks in fear of a repeat episode. Makes me sick.There have been guys who have been ripped off in these places for alot more than 300p. Sorry, but you were an idiot (or a twat as you put it) for going there in the first place. And, sorry again, but if you don't go into any "cafe or restaurant in the next two weeks" you are even a bigger twat / idiot. Get back on the horse! Be smart and don't follow touts! RTFF!
Franky Double
08-28-10, 12:12
And, sorry again, but if you don't go into any "cafe or restaurant in the next two weeks" you are even a bigger twat / idiot. Get back on the horse! Be smart and don't follow touts! RTFF!Way ahead of you sir. I use AP as my bible here in BA. I got caught out once.
Normal restaurants will see me, I won't follow people into any place at all. And I got on the horse (a stunning one) at Gysell. Barbie is a stunning lady.
Thanks all.
Franky Double,
Your experience is one of the very important reasons this Forum exists. I had a problem one day when I was ripped off for two laptops.
In talking with Jackson after the fact we both deducted I'd made the Cardinal Sin of talking to a complete stranger on the street. Had I ignored the MotherFucker I'd still have the laptops.
Exon
Wild Walleye
08-28-10, 19:27
Avoid the moor.
Franky Double
08-29-10, 00:13
Seems like the bottom line lesson is: Don't talk to anyone unless you need something from them. Best is for you to initiate contact. Someone who initiates contact first is most likely not wanting simple conversation.
I agree, this forum has been most helpful.
Been there, done that, different venue.
It's that kind of scam that soured me on Buenos Aires. That's a pity, because BsAs is actually a pretty cool place - as I've learned by reading up here on AP.
The worse thing is that I figure Argentina perceives me as "only a walking ATM," valued only as a potential source for rip-off profit, an eternal golden goose and never mind my shared fellow humanity.
Wild Walleye
08-29-10, 02:18
You may also want to consider the following rule:
Don't talk to strangers.
I have a slightly different version:
Don't talk to strangers. Unless she is hot and has big hooters
DaveJonesBA
08-29-10, 11:54
Let me chime in and add that the above mentioned scam is not just foreigner's privilege; it has been ran for ages targeting local teenagers (whom in most cases are robbed - cellphones, etc) before exiting the place.
Boulevardier
09-22-10, 11:01
Article from today's Clarin:
http://www.clarin.com/policiales/Cae-cometia-estafas-trampas-sexuales_0_340166075.html
English translation courtesy of Google Translations
Falls band who committed sexual cheating scams
22/09/10 22/09/10
Believe that defrauded over 200 tourists and employees. La lideraban un hombre y una mujer que manejaban cuatro “whiskerías” en el microcentro. The leader of a man and a woman who ran four "whiskey bars" in downtown. Prometían bailes eróticos y tragos gratis. They promised free drinks and lap dances. Pero luego les sacaban a las víctimas sumas exorbitantes a los golpes. But then drew them exorbitant sums to victims of the beatings.
The lure was an invitation to take a free drink and see a "musical" young and sexy dancers. Los tentados eran turistas y empleados que buscaban un after office , un rato de relax y diversión después de salir del trabajo. The tourists were tempted and employees who sought after office, a bit of relaxation and fun after leaving work. Sin embargo, todo era una estafa: una vez adentro del local, los clientes eran obligados a pagar sumas exorbitantes. However, it was all a scam: once inside the premises, customers were forced to pay exorbitant fees. Y si alguno se negaba, no solo lo golpeaban, sino que a algunos incluso los privaron de su libertad y los llevaron por la fuerza a sacar dinero de cajeros automáticos. And if anyone refused, not only beat him, but some even deprived of their liberty and taken by force to withdraw money from ATMs.
According To the Superintendent of Federal Investigations of the Federal Police, the gang extorted by this method about 200 people. But he believes there may be many more who did the complaint or have already left the country. But He Believes There May Be Many More Who did the Complaint or Already Have left the country. However, following the cases reported so far already formed a megacauses by repeated fraud and aggravated robbery, presided by Judge Luis Zelaya. However, the Cases Reported Following so far to megacauses Already Formed by REPEATED fraud and aggravated robbery, presided by Judge Luis Zelaya.
For the case, the police managed to arrest a man yesterday to 43 years and a woman of 32, alleged leaders and managers of two of the local band who ran the downtown area. For the case, the police managed to arrest a man yesterday to 43 years and a woman of 32, Alleged Leaders and managers of two of the local band Who ran the downtown area. Also won the preventive closure of four "whiskey bars" in total. Also won the preventive closure of four "whiskey bars" in total.
Night clubs that were raided by court order Instruction No. 13 are located in Corrientes 800, Esmeralda 400, Paraguay to 500, and Viamonte at 600. Night clubs That Were Raided by court order Instruction No. 13 Are Located in Corrientes 800, Emerald 400, Paraguay to 500, and Viamonte at 600. Worked from late afternoon until dawn. Worked from dawn Until late afternoon.
The band has been under investigation since 2008. The band has-been under investigation since 2008. In the case and six other detainees, who died in different circumstances. In the case and six Other detainees, Who Died In Different Circumstances. According to researchers Crimes Against Public Health of the Federal Police would be another equal number of fugitives. According To Researchers Crimes Against Public Health of the Federal Police Would Be Another equal number of fugitives.
But yesterday was the first time that a woman fell. But Yesterday Was The First Time That a Woman Fell. According to police, the band led by her and the man arrested was operating well, advertised with fliers hostesses service with a free drink and a lap dance (lap dance lap site). According To police, the band led by her and the man Arrested Operating WAS well, advertised with fliers hostesses service with a free drink and a lap dance (lap dance lap site).
Once the victim was at the scene, the women forced to order more drinks. Once the victim WAS at the scene, the Women Forced to order more drinks. When asked for the bill, was a figure that was absurd. When Asked for the bill, That Was Was a figure absurd. A gas, for example, was worth 200 pesos. A gas, for example, WAS worth 200 pesos.
In some cases, victims reported that they billed until they had ever consumed beverages. In Some Cases, Victims Reported That They Had ever billed Until They Consumed beverages. The women insisted that it was a very high "so consumed by his company, for the show and what they had seen them since most were half-naked", according to testimony. The Women insists That It Was a very high "so Consumed By His company, for the show and seen Had Them What They Were MOST Since half-naked", According To testimony.
If customers complained, the money they drew up and carried out of business. If customers complainer, the money They drew up and Carrie out of business. If arming some major scandal, went into action bouncers. If arming some major scandal, Went Into Action bouncers. In some cases, beat the victims and took them by force to an ATM to extract the money required. In Some Cases, beat the Victims and Took Them by force to an ATM to extract the money required.
"The complaints began to reach little when many tourists or employees went to different police stations to report that they had been robbed, beaten and in many cases, deprived of their freedom," he told Clarin Commissioner Eduardo Esposito, Crimes Division Against Health. "The Complaints Began to Reach Many Tourists When little or empleados Went To Different police stations to report That They Had Been robbed, beaten and in Many Cases, Deprived of Their Freedom," I Told Clarin Commissioner Eduardo Esposito, Crimes Against Health Division.
According to the officer, then "all causes were consolidated in one court." According To the officer, then "Consolidated Were you cause all in one court." However, he added, "the investigation takes because many victims are reluctant to report because they can not explain to their families after what they did in such places and the tourists do not want to commit not to waste time with legal procedures." However, I added, "Because the investigation Takes Many Victims Are Reluctant to report Because They CAN NOT Explain to Their Families What They did in after Such places and the Tourists Do Not want to commit Not to waste time with legal procedures."
Commissioner Clarin forward the Crimes Against Health Division found during operations other shops of the same nature that operate in the same way. Clarin Commissioner forward the Crimes Against Health Operations Division found DURING Other shops of the Same nature That Operate in the Same way. Therefore, all information was transferred to the Office of Criminal Investigation No. 48 for further investigation. Therefore, it WAS all information transferred is to the Office of Criminal Investigation No. 48 for further investigation. Is not excluded that in the next few hours there are more detainees, related to this band or some of which are still driving with this modality. That Is Not Excluded in the next FEW hours There Are more detainees, or related to this band Some of Which Are Still driving with this modality.
At least it will slow them down for a few days. The "sweet" university age chicas who hand out cards and invite you to one of these places off calle Florida have always been part of a scam. I will be back on Monday, and the touts will probably still be there.
I have never gone in, never will.
With the advice of my virtual and actual wingmen from AP there is little excuse for a mistake.
Article from today's Clarin:
http://www.clarin.com/policiales/Cae-cometia-estafas-trampas-sexuales_0_340166075.html
Chan Nimal
11-15-10, 15:27
I ventured over to Madahos and was quickly "greeted" by 2-3 others touting Hella's and 2 other clubs on the same block (don't really remember the other names.) Being proficient in spanish and dressed to "blend in" I decided to chat these greeters up for awhile. Talking about the other clubs and the Chinese mafia. Checked each place out. Hella's had maybe 5-6 girls but 2 dominican morenas. Me being from the island I decided to hang out there. They tried the "buy me lots of drinks and it's $600 for an hour". I bought 1 drink and eventually negotiated one girl down to $300 pesos and went to the hotel down the street. Very good service from her and got her.
Now, all of this occurred since I did not read the "places to avoid" thread. I should have as I wouldn't have gone in otherwise. I do count myself lucky that things didn't go poorly but I think it was only luck. Don't be an idiot like me and rely on it. Read the forum and follow the advice of those who have blazed the trail previously.
I was planning to go to a Privado (such as the one on Esmerelda 517, which is good) but was walking around. I walked by a place on Tucuman (I believe the north side of the street. 500 block). There was a woman at the street level. I told her I just wanted to look ("solo mirar" in my bad Spanish) and she said "no problem". No one else was there. I was ushered to a seat and a fat ugly woman sat with me to give me "information". Then another one, not ugly, but hard looking, sat by me. Then several Cokes arrived, unasked for by me. I got up to leave. My way was blocked by the two chicas and a short, very fat guy. There was a tough guy looking on from the side. They wanted 60 pesos for me, and 150 each for the girls. First they asked for 60, I gave over 100 p and then they started with 150 each. I handed over 400 p and ran down the stairs.
Nearly USD 100 totally down the drain. I would love to report the place, but I do not know how, other than via this forum.
I ended up not going to the privado I intended to since I was too aggravated to have a good time.
My general advice in BsAs is to avoid bars. Stick with the privados recommended here. Or with escorts recommended here. Even the established bars are not cost effective.
The horrible experience I described below occurred at Habanos, Tucuman 565 (could be 563, it's a bit hard to tell which number goes with which door). It is almost next to elegant Claridge Hotel. This place had a red X in Jackson's list; it should have several such X's. Don't be stupid like I was. Print out the list and bring it with you; all of the names and addresses run together.
I always avoid places that have a chica stationed outside tempting you to come in. In my experience in BA this is almost always a very bad sign.
As for Jackson's List-if you are a newbie you would be well served NEVER to go into a boliche that doesn't have a stamp of approval.
LukeSkywalker
09-14-12, 23:15
I walk past this club Chicote and was seduced by these touts to go in.
The girls were fun and all smiling, but they wore cheap clothes and I had read about rip off joints in various travel web sites, so I passed.
Argentinian is a very nice, gentle people. These scoundrels are a big shame to foreign tourists. They are criminals and must be put away long time in prison.
Cool, those might be the first tout pics ever posted here. I imagine it was their fun friendly attitude that lured you inside, not their looks.
I walk past this club Chicote and was seduced by these touts to go in.
The girls were fun and all smiling, but they wore cheap clothes and I had read about rip off joints in various travel web sites, so I passed.
Argentinian is a very nice, gentle people. These scoundrels are a big shame to foreign tourists. They are criminals and must be put away long time in prison.I fucked the hooker on the far left in the Chicote picture back in 2003 for 80 pesos. It was pretty good, like mediocre PLUS or a C+ or something. That was right about 25 dollars back then. I did not fuck her out of Chicote but rather María the streetwalker, aka "Dickhead's María" set me up with her. That was before they ran the streetwalkers off the Florida mall.
LukeSkywalker
09-15-12, 04:17
She must be pushing 50's now.
I fucked the hooker on the far left in the Chicote picture back in 2003 for 80 pesos. It was pretty good, like mediocre PLUS or a C+ or something. That was right about 25 dollars back then. I did not fuck her out of Chicote but rather María the streetwalker, aka "Dickhead's María" set me up with her. That was before they ran the streetwalkers off the Florida mall.
LukeSkywalker
09-15-12, 04:41
They were sitting in the dark on the sidewalk in front of the bar. I just thought it was funny the way 3 of them were sitting in front of a strip club, talking and kidding around noisily like. . . well . . . Kids. So I snapped their first candid pic quickly without flash. There were no clients in or outside of the club that I could see.
When they saw the camera, they all quickly got up on their feet, running over, smiling, talking, flirting, slobbering all over me. I understood little of their rapid Spanish talk, but guessing they were trying to convince me to go inside the club. So I turned them down, smiling of course.
They were disappointed but were still smiling and kidding around. I asked them to pose for a pic in front of the club and they gladly complied. They were not pissed off at me for turning them down. As you can see they were smiling and waving in the last pic.
The 3 girls appear to be good-natured to me. I don't understand how they can go along with the club owner to lie to, cheat, threaten and beat up customers into paying large bull shit bills. . . How can good-natured people can also quickly turn evil?
BTW, they dont look nice, young, clean and sexy enough to lure me into their club. Despite their fun and flirtsy manners, something about their cheap clothes and their worn-out rough looks told me they were down and out street people. The average girls in Argentina look far more feminine and attractive.
Cool, those might be the first tout pics ever posted here. I imagine it was their fun friendly attitude that lured you inside, not their looks.
How can good-natured people can also quickly turn evil?Because they're NOT good natured, they only pretend to be so.
In need for fresh meat,went yesterday for a tour in boliches.
1 ORLEANS:At 20h,8 girls (1 from Ecuador,3 from Santo Domingo,2 from Paraguay and may be 2 from Argentina),no one under 30 years old,no one better than 2/10,i had a beer (25$) and left.
2 Periplo:in front of Hotel Marriott:arrived at 22h,stayed until 23h30:5 girls,bad ambiance and no one better than 4/10.
3 Pass by Exedra at midnight:only 3 maduras,no one better than 3/10.
4 Went to 2 bars in the hot points in Recoleta (the one who was named Brut some years ago in Rodriguez Peña),arrived at 1am:6 girls,no one more than 4/10.They told me that things are much better around 3am or 4am as many girls from other boliches come to pick up new clients.Morena had not arrived.
5 Went to the first bar nearby this one (sorry,don't remember now the name):15 girls,some around 7/10.Wanted to invite a dancer for a drink:350$! For a drink and 1.500$ to get sex!
So i left and went back home.
Robert.
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