Additional help for a first timer

[Eusebio]

Dear all,

I have invested a fair amount of time to read many of the threads and posts of Argentina Private.

There's a quite big amount of information available in here, and I am already thankful to the posters and the administrator who keeps this stuff available to everybody.

The reason of this post is to ask some additional information and comments for my (and maybe others' as well) benefit.

A short introduction about myself can be useful for you to better assess your replies to my questions.

I will visit Argentina for the first time in the next January and therefore I can be considered an absolute beginner. Here.

My experience with women is vast, but limited to Europe, former CIS countries and Asia. However I can speak a more than passable Spanish and few years ago we could have defined it's level as intermediate.

All the info that I have collected about the mongering scene in Argentina come from this website, the websites of escorts and women in general listed in this website, and from the reading of another forum, in Spanish (foroescorts. Com. Ar)

Most of the time I travel for business, but in Argentina I will be only a tourist. I plan to be in BA for a week or 2, and maybe visit some other cities in Argentina.

Given the above, based on the information that I collected, I have made my mind and decided that I will most likely visit some aprtments during the day or evening time, plus will try to get in touch with non professional women in order to develop friendship or sexual short term relationships in case of strong mutual attraction.

I'm in my early 40s and if talking about seduction, than I prefer slightly upscale and good looking women. When I just need sex I prefer to visit an apartment or make a phone call that try to pick up an easy goblin from the dance floor.

My questions and considerations, much needing your comments, are the following:

1- I understood that the going rate for 1 hour of sex in an apartment is between 200 and 300 pesos, with 300 usually including BBBJ, anal, besos negros and almost everything possible within the borders of usual sexual practices. I understood that the quality of the girls varies a lot but in any case even if she is really pretty the going rate for this kind of establishments will not differ too much from that.

Is it correct?

2- I understood that most of the apartments during the week close early in the evening. Why? In BA is late night mongering reserved only to clubs and night venues?

3- I read (in the Spanish forum mentioned above) some review of members who met with maduridas for 120 or even 80 pesos per hour. Is it something common in BA or are these just exceptions or worse fake reports?

4- Are there discounts available or negotiable in the apartments in case of longer stay (such as 2-3 hours) or is it acceptabe to offer a lady a kind of bar fine in order for her to spend a whole day with you or sleep at your hotel?

5- How easy is to get 3-some action (with real bisexual girls) in BA and how much is it going to cost? I found reports of mongers who managed to have 2 girls (even from different apartments) and paid each girl her usual fee, without additional cost, is it the norm?

6- How important is to get an apartment for the monger? I read in this forum that it is almost a must, and if you were to ask me my opinion with regards to Russia or Ukraine I would answer in the same way: it's simply almost impossible to get an ordinary girl to visit you in a hotel, only the hardcore pros do it.

However since in BA I don't have any meeting set up with ladies and since I only know about apartments, I thought I might just rent a room in a hostel downtown (30$ or less per day) instead of a nice 4 star hotel or a private flat (that I undestood is going to cost not less that 80$ per day) and use the saved money to finance the mongering. Is this a wise decision? Please advise.

7- clothes: how important is to dress well in the BA's social life and what should I bring with me? I usually wear shirts, often with a tie, but for a tourist to melt in the hot summer weather might be not the smartest idea.

8- venues suggested for socializing with locals and possible pick ups: do you have any suggestion about the places (cafes, bars, clubs, restaurants, etc) I should visit and spend time (and cash) in order to try my luck? Is it going to be very expensive?

9- situation in other Argentinian cities: do you suggest me to plan a visit to other cities in the Noth, such as Rosario, Cordoba, Foz do Iguasu, Asuncion (I know, it's Paraguay.)? Which places are advised for pure sightseeing and where is possible to find also good opportunities for mongering?

Well, that's all for the moment!

Many thanks in advance to everyone willing to help me and share his experience!

[Wild Walleye]

My experience with women is vast, but limited to Europe, former CIS countries and Asia. However I can speak a more than passable SpanishYou're already ahead of the game.

[/quote]I will be only a tourist. I plan to be in BA for a week or 2, and maybe visit some other cities in Argentina. [/quote]From a work perspective, I have found that January, do to all the people being on vacation, in Bs As can be a little slow (dead as a door nail might be more accurate). Many Chicas go on holiday during January, too. That said, I have no doubt that you can find that for which you seek.

As for other parts of Argentina to see, my wanderings have been a little limited and there are others with much more experienced with travel to the interior. You may also find that some of the resort areas in Argentina and Uruguay are pretty buy in January.


1- I understood that the going rate for 1 hour of sex in an apartment is between 200 and 300 pesos, with 300 usually including BBBJ, anal, besos negros and almost everything possible within the borders of usual sexual practices. I understood that the quality of the girls varies a lot but in any case even if she is really pretty the going rate for this kind of establishments will not differ too much from that.It will vary from place to place (when discussing privados) and from chica to chica (when discussing independentes) and from place to place and from chica to chica (when discussing boliches).

You can find companionship at much lower rates and you can find it at much higher rates.

Generally, AR$150-250 should cover an hour of conventional in most privados and AR$250-300 should cover back door access. As for BBBJ, besos negros it will depend upon the chica and may not include an up-charge.


2- I understood that most of the apartments during the week close early in the evening. Why? In BA is late night mongering reserved only to clubs and night venues?I think you might be misinformed on this one. Of all the privados with which I am familiar, they generally open late in the morning (1100-1200 and close early in the morning 0200-0400).


3- I read (in the Spanish forum mentioned above) some review of members who met with maduridas for 120 or even 80 pesos per hour. Is it something common in BA or are these just exceptions or worse fake reports? They are probably true. However, there may be two different forces at work here. First, the local foros reflect local pricing whilst many of us are offered gringo pricing. Second, you often get what you pay for. There are some stunning, mature (23-24 yrs old) women in Bs As (kidding about the age) who are gifted with their skills. I can't imagine them charging less when arguably they are beautiful and their service is perhaps better than a younger chica. That said, if she is saggy all over, showing severe signs of age or got hit with the ugly stick, I can imagine that a lower pricing scheme would probably be necessary in order to generate sales.


4- Are there discounts available or negotiable in the apartments in case of longer stay (such as 2-3 hours) or is it acceptabe to offer a lady a kind of bar fine in order for her to spend a whole day with you or sleep at your hotel?Everything is a negotiation. If you have a nice hotel room, I will venture a guess that it will be a more pleasant place to spend 2-3 hours with a beuatiful chica than the privado. You will generally pay about AR$50 extra for take out (plus taxi). You might want to got to a couple of privados, do half-hour interviews with several chicas that meet your criteria and then choose one for a longer outing. Taking an unknown chica (whether at your place or hers) for a multiple hour first visit is a recipe for wasting money and time.


5- How easy is to get 3-some action (with real bisexual girls) in BA and how much is it going to cost? I found reports of mongers who managed to have 2 girls (even from different apartments) and paid each girl her usual fee, without additional cost, is it the norm?You need to carefully research the chicas to make sure that they do real lesbianismo and not the fake stuff. Generally, if you take two chicas from the same place, the fee is lower than twice the single-chica-fee.


6- How important is to get an apartment for the monger? I read in this forum that it is almost a must, and if you were to ask me my opinion with regards to Russia or Ukraine I would answer in the same way: it's simply almost impossible to get an ordinary girl to visit you in a hotel, only the hardcore pros do it.You are only going to be in Bs As for a week or two so I wouldn't waste too much time focused on nonpros that you hope to scoop up and nail. Apartment or hotel is entirely your decision. Chicas will go to either. You can save a lot of money with an apartment.


However since in BA I don't have any meeting set up with ladies and since I only know about apartments, I thought I might just rent a room in a hostel downtown (30$ or less per day) instead of a nice 4 star hotel or a private flat (that I undestood is going to cost not less that 80$ per day) and use the saved money to finance the mongering. Is this a wise decision? Please advise.I would advise against it. If you can afford it, a hotel or apartment gives you a place to entertain.


7- clothes: how important is to dress well in the BA's social life and what should I bring with me? I usually wear shirts, often with a tie, but for a tourist to melt in the hot summer weather might be not the smartest idea.You should plan on wearing shirts, while I enjoy roaming around Bs As in just my knickers, it seems that most people around here do prefer to wear shirts.

I would advise you to wear nice, light casual clothing. It will be hot so emphasis on light. There are not too many places where you need a tie. I recommend bring some nice clothes to wear to the clubs.


8- venues suggested for socializing with locals and possible pick ups: do you have any suggestion about the places (cafes, bars, clubs, restaurants, etc) I should visit and spend time (and cash) in order to try my luck? Is it going to be very expensive? Forget about picking up locals. Check out the boliches in Recoleta. Yes, more expensive.

[Eusebio]

.Thank you very much!