View Full Version : Buenos Aires vs Medellin
I was lucky enough to go to these two cities back to back. I just left BA yesterday. I was in MDE two weeks ago, where I frequent a lot more. I miss them both already.
Basics of travel in BA. BA is not a secret tourist or a mongering destination. I did it both ways before but what makes it unique now is the peso devaluation. Last time I was in BA, $1 = 3 pesos. Now the official rate is 8. 5 pesos and the unofficial "blue market" rate is 14.5 to 15 (I love latino culture. They are too prudish to call it black market). Along with devaluation of course there is inflation. What cost 100 pesos when it was 3 pesos to a dollar, now costs 300 pesos but if you are smart enough to get pesos using blue market, it is still at a deep discount. Also, the inflation is variable depending on the commodity. Food and wine went up two times, chica prices went up on average 3 times and hotels went up four times but we are getting 5 times as many pesos per USD. Hope that makes sense. In AP.com site I posted where and how to get blue market pesos. For uniformity, I am going to quote all prices in USD (based on 2000 CO pesos to a $1 and Blue conversion rate of 14 AR pesos. Prices are approximate and don't give me crap if I am off by $10 USD. If I am way off, please correct me.
Cities: Ricoletta in BA is the El Poblado of MDE for touristy stuff and unlike Poblado, Ricoletta and adjacent "micro center (downtown)" are the mongering hubs as well. That makes travel easy. Cabs are not as inexpensive as MDE but still way cheaper compared to North american cities and you barely have to travel more than 15 minutes during peak traffic, unless you want to go adjacent neighbourhoods to see a tango show (San Telmo) or sightseeing or where the locals go to avoid tourists (Palermo Soho and Palermo Hollywood). Most Stay in Ricoletta as I always do. I like it because it is beautiful and I can walk to several of my favourite places of pleasure.
MDE Casas vs BA Privados: Similar in concept but there are big differences. With few exceptions most Privados have less than 5 girls working at any given time. Unlike Casas, most Privados are open till 4 or even 5 AM. Chicas rotate in shifts and some might even live there. Some larger Privados may have a madam but in smaller ones, one of the chica's lets you in. They typically have a small living room with a sofa. You get to check out the girls and pick one. Prices depend on the Privado and the quality of the facility more than the quality of the girls. For example, a good value place Casa such as Energy, Abydos or Blue room will run you $60-70 USD and similar venue and quality would be $40 USD for one pop or one hour, whichever comes first. Service levels are similar with greater chances of Anal and BBBJ with extra tip or for repeat customers. The big difference is the sheer number of Privados and almost 20 hours of operation /24 hours. Privados are all over the city but again the highest concentration are in Ricoletta and Micro center. One other thing is that the escort "in call" services are almost always in a Privado. There are a few major escort sites and all of them have Privados scattered around the city. Some mongers even took the time to map the escort website girls to Privados but that info gets outdated very quickly. Conclusion: Just by pure numbers Privados have better quality than Casas and most have better ambiance compared to an MDE centro Casa but there is not much difference if you stick to quality establishments in both cities and for now BA is cheaper. Compared to a place like Lutron, BA is much cheaper for same or even better quality. However, ambiance wise, I don't know of a Privado similar to Lutron.
Escorts: There must be almost 50 agencies and a 1000 escorts any given day in BA. Since they double up as Casa girls, you can do in call or out call. This set up is similar to Paisa divinas or Masajista paisas in MDE (they both have their own apartments in various locations around MDE) but they are more in number in BA. Again because of the numbers, and if you are patient enough to spend time in front of a darn computer, you can find higher quality in BA. However, the BA websites are notorious for world class photoshopping skills. Famous Jackson quote, "discount 20% looks to a website girl". A 10 is an 8 and an 8 is actually a six. MDE outcall is typically $125 to $150 and in BA it is $75 to $100. I find MDE escort site pics to be lot closer to reality. I use them in either city only if I am too tired or lazy. I spend a lot of time on a computer for my day job and try to minimize interaction with it when I arrive at a mongering destination. Most escorts in BA offer anal and BBBJ, which is different compared to MDE. Those are less important to me.
Massage places: BA is quite unique in this respect. There are a ton of "massage" places. The operating hours are typically 11 AM to 9 PM. There are two kinds of MPs. Ones that offer a legit massage and HJ (included in the price) with topless or rarely nude massage with mutual massage or tit massage and or tits in mouth as options. Massage here including HJ, is $25 and the "tip" is $8 to 12 for topless tit massage or nipple sucking. Full service is highly unlikely unless she is in love with you. The other kind of MP is where there is a 20 minute pretend massage which is followed by a full service option. There you typically pay the house $25 and depending on the level of service you want, you pay the girl $20 to $25. I found stunners at both types of MPs. I almost fell in love with one at the full service kind. For my favourite places, see my reviews in AP.com under massage thread. PM me for the info on the MDE equivalent to the first type (legit massage with release). I do not advertise that location in MDE as it is truly a legit MP where you routinely see an upper strata house wife getting a rubdown in the next room.
Cafe's and pubs: The freelance cafe's in BA are interesting. Most mongerers end up there at least once for the thrill of it and some expats hang out there all the time. Good for them. The day time ones such as Exedra and Cafe Orleans are fun to check it out but the quality is hit or miss. Mostly a miss for me. I am strictly a solo mongerer but if you like to chat with very friendly and genuinely helpful expats, this is where you want to hang out. You will occasionally find a gem of a chica and you may even begin to wonder if she is an accidental tourist who ended up there unknowingly, mislead by tripadvisor. Most of them are hardcore pros though. The late night freelance pubs on the other hand are like the late night freelance dance clubs of CTG. The difference is that there is no cover in BA pubs and the atmosphere is relaxed, no dancing, just drinking, chilling and negotiating. Drinks are $7 for you or the girl and if you are patient, will find gems that will go to your room for one hour for $100. I found my 10 here one night! The pubs don't get going till midnight but close at 4 AM. Obviously, MDE is lacking in this offering.
Clubs: My favourite of veneus and the highest priced option in both cities. The rough equivalent of La Isla is club Hippopotamus (A + list). (Black is a famous A+ list expensive club that is totally passe. An over the top club scamming tourists based on it's past glory. Waste of time these days). Fase 2 = Hooke (A list). There are a ton of clubs that are similar to San Diego and Luna Luneras. (B list) and even more el centro type clubs (C list). In BA, I stick to A or A+. The big difference is that there is no onsite action in BA clubs that I visit. There is a cover to get into A clubs. $22 for A+ and $17 for A that includes a stiff drink. Girl drink at Hippo is $75 (yes you read that correctly) and you have to buy one drink per hour of take out. Girls typically go out for $150 to $200/ first hour and $75 to $100 each additional hour. So for example, if you want to take a girl out for 1 HR, it will be $75 for the drink and close to $200 for the girl. For two hours, it would be $150 in drinks plus $275 for the girl. The girl is obligated to come back to the club if the club is still open when she is done with you. Most top clubs close at 4 am so, if you pull a girl at 2 am for two hours or at 3 am for 1 hour she does not need to come back. Makes sense? (one club opens at 3 AM and closes at 8 Am!) Having scared with these prices, the reality is A clubs are a much better value compared to A+ clubs. At Hooke for example, the girl drink is $18 and it is $100 per hour for the girl. I found 9's there and some of them are sweet and classy enough to consider a longterm relationship. If you leave crazy prices out of the picture, for example, Hippo has many 10's. Probably one of the highest concentration of 10's, available to fuck for a buck, under one roof (Comparable to a German FKK such as Oase or Prague K club). Most of them know it and are a bit cold. I don't mind spending money if I know there is value in return. Hippo, with it's silly drink pricing policy makes it harder to find out. Going into details is out of the scope of this report. I spoke to several but never pulled one from there. Hooke on the other hand is priced similar to La Isla (for the first hour) but La Isla has more number of girls and for TLN, it comes out way ahead.
General thoughts: Paisas like to party. They jump at the option of going to a nice restaurant and a regular club. BA girls; not so much. The clubs put pressure on the girls to come back to the club. In MDE, once the girl leaves, she is under no such pressure though she may still choose to do that for persona financial reasons. For my tastes, both Paisas and Baires chicas are equally good in the sac. Looks wise, they both have stunners but if you like them on average a bit taller, dig light color eyes and brown or blonde hair along with a nice tight latina ass, you will be in heaven in BA. Silicone breasts are equally common but gluteal implants are less common in BA (I hate those). In general, I like them all natural and I don't have trouble finding them in either of the cities. Romance latina, CO Cupid and Facebook add another dimension to MDE mongering that I do not have much info on re BA.
Weed: You can easily and reliably get it in both cities though lot less expensive and better quality in MDE. Regular contributors can PM me on ISG site (not AP.com) if you like to know where to get party supplies or any other specific questions. I answer my PMs diligently. If I do not reply to you, that means I do not consider your contributions to the forum worthy of a reply. Please give a little so can get a lot more.
Member #3320
10-25-14, 12:07
Regular contributors can PM me on ISG site (not AP.com) if you like to know where to get party supplies or any other specific questions. I answer my PMs diligently. Thanks for your detailed report. It takes an effort to write so many details.
A little intrigued that you will only answer on ISG.com and not on AP.com!! If its all about generating funds for exchange of information, then AP should be made into a paid website or be combined with ISG. Moderator, comments?
Some loser on Peru thread of ISG who posts here too kept answering my mails here on AP ( without information) and kept asking me to write to him on ISG.com. what the f&^k!!
VITREA , thanks for a great report. Not once did you insult a Columbian or Argentine.
Horrod and Member, thank you for the positive feedback.
Member, the reason I ask for PMs on ISG is because I frequent that site more (couple of times a week as opposed to couple of times a month on AP site. I don't want folks on AP site thinking I am being rude or ignoring them.
I have few short reports to write on AP so I will be active for a while though.
VITREA , thanks for a great report. Not once did you insult a Columbian or Argentine.Possibly a record of avoiding insults for a report that lengthy. Nice catch HotRod.
Member #3320
10-26-14, 12:03
Member, the reason I ask for PMs on ISG is because I frequent that site more (couple of times a week as opposed to couple of times a month on AP site. I don't want folks on AP site thinking I am being rude or ignoring them.
I have few short reports to write on AP so I will be active for a while though.Thanks Vitrea for the clarification. More respect for you and your report.
Peter Sideburn
10-26-14, 23:23
Very nice report. May be going to Colombia soon so this was helpful. Would like clarification of, "Late night freelance Pub," as I am afraid I might have missed something in my many visits to BA.
Pete.
Cafe's and pubs: The late night freelance pubs on the other hand are like the late night freelance dance clubs of CTG. The difference is that there is no cover in BA pubs and the atmosphere is relaxed, no dancing, just drinking, chilling and negotiating. Drinks are $7 for you or the girl and if you are patient, will find gems that will go to your room for one hour for $100. I found my 10 here one night! The pubs don't get going till midnight but close at 4 AM. Obviously, MDE is lacking in this offering.
I was lucky enough to go to these two cities back to back. I just left BA yesterday. I was in MDE two weeks ago, where I frequent a lot more. I miss them both already.So Vitrea, the 64,000-peso question: If you could only go to either BA or MDE for future trips, which city would you choose ?
Excellent question and I was wondering who was going to ask me first. Ha ha.
It is not as simple for ME because I have other reasons to go to MDE. So personally and for me and for the longterm, it would be MDE. Paisas are warmer. I tend to fall in love and not just fuck.
But if I was just a tourist monger, it would have to be BA, hands down . If the blue peso is gone and the exchange is back to 8.5 pesos and the inflation says the same, both cities even out.
As I told my friends in MDE, "my heart is in Medellin but I don't mind parking my dick in BA for a while".
Member #3320
10-27-14, 16:33
Excellent question and I was wondering who was going to ask me first. Ha ha.
Paisas are warmer. I tend to fall in love Do Paisas reciprocate the love? Unheard of with BA working girls.
Do Paisas reciprocate the love? Unheard of with BA working girls.You are obviously experienced and you know that in emotional connection, YMVV. Speaking in general terms and having mongered in over 30 countries, paisas reciprocate more than any in the western hemisphere. Probably number # 2 in the world as Filipinas probably get the #1 spot for that. Thailand probably #3. Indonesia I hear is top in that area but I have not been.
You are obviously experienced and you know that in emotional connection, YMVV. Speaking in general terms and having mongered in over 30 countries, paisas reciprocate more than any in the western hemisphere. Probably number # 2 in the world as Filipinas probably get the #1 spot for that. Thailand probably #3. Indonesia I hear is top in that area but I have not been.Thanks for the report. I rate the Philippines #1 and Argentina #2.
Member #3320
10-27-14, 19:38
You are obviously experienced and you know that in emotional connection, YMVV. Speaking in general terms and having mongered in over 30 countries, paisas reciprocate more than any in the western hemisphere. Probably number # 2 in the world as Filipinas probably get the #1 spot for that. Thailand probably #3. Indonesia I hear is top in that area but I have not been.I just returned from a month long trip to Asia including 15 days in Phillipppines and Thailand. I have to admit every working girl who was there with me ( for exchange of money) tried to "seduce" me, propose her deep "love" for me and wanted to get married to me and come back with me to Argentina! All within the first meeting each.
Height of Desperation to leave their country!!
No working girl in Argentina ever proposed her "love" to me. He he!
I have lived in both cities. I like the mongering in Buenos Aires better. More variety of venues (although Medellín is not lacking in that regard) and less silicone. Medellín has the advantageous of great weather, good dope, and being a much shorter flight from the US. However, and importantly, Medellín is orders of magnitude more dangerous than BA; Colombia in general is orders of magnitude more dangerous than Argentina. Medellín is a lot harder to get around, to flag a cab on the street, find your way around, so forth. I do think colombianas are better looking than argentinas overall but one thing Medellín totally lacks is paraguayas. And paraguayas rock. In fact I have never fucked anything other than a colombiana in Colombia, whereas in Argentina I fucked many different nationalities. So there is less variety in Medellín in that regard. I moved from BA to Medellín, tried Medellín for a few months, and went back to BA, if that says anything. Had more problems there in a few months than I had in several years in BA. That could be a fluke, of course.
Very nice report. May be going to Colombia soon so this was helpful. Would like clarification of, "Late night freelance Pub," as I am afraid I might have missed something in my many visits to BA.
Pete.
Cafe's and pubs: The late night freelance pubs on the other hand are like the late night freelance dance clubs of CTG. The difference is that there is no cover in BA pubs and the atmosphere is relaxed, no dancing, just drinking, chilling and negotiating. Drinks are $7 for you or the girl and if you are patient, will find gems that will go to your room for one hour for $100. I found my 10 here one night! The pubs don't get going till midnight but close at 4 AM. Obviously, MDE is lacking in this offering.Pete, I was referring to Newport pub in Ricoletta. It is a freelance club/pub. Freelance clubs by definition do not have quality control and tend to have a higher percentage of Hardcore Chicas but if you are patient, and willing to go with an attitude of, "let's see what might happen tonight", I think you will have a lot of fun. I think there are couple of clubs like Newport in BA area but I have not been to them.
I have lived in both cities. I like the mongering in Buenos Aires better. More variety of venues (although Medelln is not lacking in that regard) and less silicone. Medelln has the advantageous of great weather, good dope, and being a much shorter flight from the US. However, and importantly, Medelln is orders of magnitude more dangerous than BA; Colombia in general is orders of magnitude more dangerous than Argentina. Medelln is a lot harder to get around, to flag a cab on the street, find your way around, so forth. I do think colombianas are better looking than argentinas overall but one thing Medelln totally lacks is paraguayas. And paraguayas rock. In fact I have never fucked anything other than a colombiana in Colombia, whereas in Argentina I fucked many different nationalities. So there is less variety in Medelln in that regard. I moved from BA to Medelln, tried Medelln for a few months, and went back to BA, if that says anything. Had more problems there in a few months than I had in several years in BA. That could be a fluke, of course.Excellent summary and a nice follow up. Re safety: I don't live in Medellin but I have "business" there. Luckily I did not have any run-ins with any unsavory characters. Having said that, I stay in El Poblado and visit the surrounding barrios only during the day by metro and by taxi at night. All of us have different perspectives based on our own own expereinces. Personally, for a tourist, I find Medellin at night safer than most cities in Mexico for example. Yes, I find BA very safe.
The closest I ever came to getting killed was in downtown Chicago coming back from from a stripclub where I spent $200 on fucking air dances.
Member #3320
10-27-14, 21:11
The closest I ever came to getting killed was in downtown Chicago coming back from from a stripclub where I spent $200 on fucking air dances.The closest I ever came to getting killed was in downtown Shanghai while sitting down in a bar having a drink and suddenly their were people with gun on my head.
Do Paisas reciprocate the love? Unheard of with BA working girls.With interest I read this thread.. The title attracted me because I lived in Medellin for well over a year.. And I've lived almost two years in BA. Its easy to criticize what's written because of the limited landscape of working babes.. And this is not written to criticize.. Its written to forward some experience that may contribute.
I side with the author. I have fallen, and continue to fall, for a lot of babes down here. I don't look to trash them out or treat them like crap for the work they do. Nor am I a monger who stands in the bar til well past midnight. I've got my own MO which constantly looks for the right deal that works for me. I look for a babe who will see me on my terms in my environment. And my preference revolves around after work, off-days, and the family-oriented Sunday afternoon..
I like most of the working girls I've met. I still communicate with many. Show them some humor, appreciation, and attention, and no matter where you go, and 9 times out of 10, they like it. I don't judge them. And because I don't, I get something in return.. Sure, not every working babe is angelic. And you always need to be prepared to walk. But for the most part they respond to what you give.. Just be careful how you open the treasure chest...
My credentials began in August 2003 and continued until June of 2010.. During this time, at age 55, I rode my motorcycle (k100rs) from San Francisco to Ushuaia and back.. I lived for extended time in Sao Paulo, Asuncion, Santa Cruz, Cordoba, Mendoza, and Cuenca. And a shit-load of time was spent in dumps stationed in the Amazon to Merida, Venezuela to Sarmiento, Neuquen, Potosi, Catamarca, el Bordo, Fortaleza, Manaus, and Popayan. I now live in Las Vegas. And also own an apartment in BA.. I returned to BA because of the culture, food, quality of life, and good looking women..
Medellin is great because the people are not hard and calloused. And as grimy as El Centro is, there is always a jewel to be found. If you cruise Parque Lleras and Poblado, its the bar scene. And you better be equipped to communicate on their terms. But if you choose to go to local gimnasios like BodyTech, you can establish your presence because everybody is already, to some extent, exposed. The downtown casas are many.. As is Laureles, Bello, y La mayorista.. You only have to show up. They will find you.
I don't need to describe BA because the landscape is different. The Orleans, Exedra, and the San Martin streets are more mechanical.. This info is not new. Privados close to San Pedrito Subte can be cheap. Belgrano has some awesome houses. But its still the lottery.. I found that in local Spinning Classes, yoga, or aerobic dancing, you'll find curious women who are there for the same reason as you are.. Take the dare to what may seem as arrogance.. I think its fear because they don't know what to think of the Gringo.. Consider that their government constantly beats on the US for its prowess and independence.. And we are painted as bad. Show them something the locals don't, and you're on your way to some nice attention.
I went to a dance class at BodyTech in Vizcaya Shopping in MDE.. I followed a 21 y/o who was sculpted from genius.. This honey fell out of a Hollywood Script she was so hot.. And When the class started I positioned myself a few rows back because this took careful planning.. It wasn't long before her mom showed up and they chatted.. I looked at daughter... Momsaw what I was looking at... And she put her sights on me.. Mom set the tone. And soon, while still aiming at daughter, I realized I had to go through mom to get my prize..
Mom, twice divorced at 43, did not disappoint. She was the most comfortable woman with her sexuality. But when Mom and I went out for lunch, she made it clear she wanted to return to South Carolina to shop and drink coffee all day with her friends.. But her wants never stopped progress. And after a nice evening that led into early morning great sex, I made it clear I wasn't going to finance her dreams...
At 3am she told me to get the hell out... And at the age of 57, I walked two miles home.. Smiling all the way.
Good luck to all.
Member #3320
10-27-14, 21:16
I side with the author. I have fallen, and continue to fall, for a lot of babes down here.Here? Is "here" implying BA or MDE?
Thanks.
Member #3320
10-27-14, 21:26
I have never been to MDE but often travel to other parts of Colombia for work.
I am living in BA for several years.
In 2014, the best and most authentic GFE I had was with a "Paisa" , a girl from Medellin whom I bumped into 'accidentally' in my visit to Cartagena few months ago. This was the best GFE of 2014 despite my visit to Phillippines, Thailand this year and living in BA and sampling several girls here.
What made it stand out was that it was authentic GFE with no hidden agendas like the fake GFEs with girls from Phillippines and Thailand. This Colombian girl never bothered to contact me or ask me to invite her to BA but when I sent her a text message after one month - she still remembered me and send me a text message back saying nice things. ( she did not have whatsapp).
Since then, I thought several times of going to MDE but never have the time.
Intrigued by this discussion.
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On same account, this year in 2014 - I encountered a really nice working girl from Baires girls working independentally out of her apartment from microcentro. I visited her three times. I tried so so so so hard to ask her to meet me for a drink or a coffee or a walk in the park..but each time she declined and in fact blocked me from whatsapp!
Go figure.
Excellent question and I was wondering who was going to ask me first. Ha ha.
It is not as simple for ME because I have other reasons to go to MDE. So personally and for me and for the longterm, it would be MDE. Paisas are warmer. I tend to fall in love and not just fuck.
But if I was just a tourist monger, it would have to be BA, hands down . If the blue peso is gone and the exchange is back to 8.5 pesos and the inflation says the same, both cities even out.
As I told my friends in MDE, "my heart is in Medellin but I don't mind parking my dick in BA for a while".I have not been to MDE, though I've done my research and will probably get there in the next year or two. I've had very good experiences with Paisas in other countries, but a number of things I've read about Medellin has cast some doubt. The main theme I've seen is people say it's just harder to navigate, that it's all about connections especially if you are not staying at the Mansion. I don't mind putting in the work to get up to speed, but not yet. Aside from the huge number of easily accessible venues in BA, other factors were cost, safety, quality of the city, nightlife and restaurants. The Paisas I've met were hotter on average than the average in BA, but the selection is so abundant in BA that I usually have no problem finding hotties or very attractive chicas. The BA chicas have a more European / American look than the distinct Colombiana look, and are less likely to have silicone (for me, both favoring BA chicas). I also got the sense that the Medellin scene has shifted somewhat in the direction of hardened pros because of all the gringo tourism. Frankly the comparison was not even close, I love BA for many reasons and I feel grounded when I am there. I have travelled to many countries as well, but no place keeps me coming back like BA.
As I said I have not been to MDE yet, but these are my thoughts as they stand now. Feel free to correct any misconceptions I may have. I will definitely get to MDE soon enough to put it to the test. I suspect I will conclude the opposite, "my heart is in BA but I don't mind parking my dick in Medellin for a while". To your comments, I am more a tourist monger than one to fall in love. Though who knows, maybe I'll be eating my words once I get to MDE. We'll see.
Here? Is "here" implying BA or MDE?
Thanks."Down here" means South America in general.. At the core of my extended journey, there was little difference between cities. Vitrea is correct.. The price in BA makes it all the better.. The gist of my point is that a lot of these girls aren't like Vegas spinners. Some will enjoy the attention. Many aren't on the clock. And most can be trusted.. In the US, you've always need to look over your shoulder.
For the most part, we all look for the best deal.. Clubs in Santiago or Lima or Sao Paulo can get very expensive.. In 2007 there was a $60 USD cover to enter some Night Club just off Providencia.. I walked on the price. But lucky for me, a kid approached me with a hustle and took me to a budget friendly privado.. In Chile they do have "cafes" which provide short-time workers for 15-minute sessions and up.. Its a big marketplace.. And prices vary according to your own bankroll..
In MDE I met a guy named Noah who sold guided tours to the sex and drug trade. I didn't buy his sales pitch because I enjoy the hunt. I never got along with him or the way he handled his business. With him, everybody's business was in the streets. And somewhere he crossed the wrong path.. And consequently was shot and killed at an outdoor café on Cra 69 in MDE.
I bring it up because one does not need to stomp their way through these people lives.. 29297 keep it for a while..
Valentina from MDE..
Enjoy.
Member #3320
10-28-14, 10:50
it's all about connections especially if you are not staying at the Mansion. I never understood all this hullabaloo about staying in the mansion in MDE. And if you did not stay in the mansion, you are considered a out cast and the three owners of the mansion create trouble for you and you are not allowed to enter the mansion to come and meet people etc.
However, in BA - I feel a monger can arrive in BA and hit the ground running if one has read this forum.
I prefer to monger alone. I would not want to stay in the mansion and lick the nuts of the three owners of the mansion, to get laid. So I avoided going to MDE.
Im planning a mongering trip to CO this year. Heard good things. Any tips on any good places to hit are appreciated.
Member #3320
10-28-14, 18:23
Im planning a mongering trip to CO this year. Heard good things. Any tips on any good places to hit are appreciated.For hotels, I recommend "Hampton by Hilton" in Cartagena, Cali and Barranquilla.
Especially, the one in Cartagena & Cali has lobby on the 11th floor and one can enter from ground floor with a chica and go straight to the room.
In Barranquilla, you have to check in the girl. But hotel staff is non interfering and you can check in several girls one after another in one day with no questions asked or extra billing.
I never understood all this hullabaloo about staying in the mansion in MDE. And if you did not stay in the mansion, you are considered a out cast and the three owners of the mansion create trouble for you and you are not allowed to enter the mansion to come and meet people etc.
However, in BA - I feel a monger can arrive in BA and hit the ground running if one has read this forum.
I prefer to monger alone. I would not want to stay in the mansion and lick the nuts of the three owners of the mansion, to get laid. So I avoided going to MDE.There may be a bit of misconception here. I know all three owners of Mansion though I don't think all three own it anymore. May be it is just two now? Anyway, all three are decent guys that helped create a great venue for gringos when most North-Americans were scared of coming to and navigate the streets of Medellin. They had to work through a lot of legal and practical issues to run a successful "hotel" business in one of the most sought after locations in the city while providing access to cute paisas. You can understand why they do not want every horny male foreigner parading though there for a free chat/grope with the chicas and to collect the phone numbers. I am also friends with lot of current and ex mansion girls. The firsthand info is that they are under no obligation to mansion. Girls that are getting into the business actually want to be able to work at mansion so they could easily meet their potential clients. It is a great model.
Having said all that, I stayed there once long time ago and I haven't stayed at the Mansion in 2 years and they never gave me a hard time.
I strictly monger alone also. I like the privacy and the adventure. I do say that Mansion has a niche market for gringos who want to socialize with other gringo mongers and are not very comfortable exploring MDE on their own. I agree with Estan's point also. If you are that type and don't know Spanish MDE is a bit harder to navigate than BA. That is a fact. I look on the positive side. Having Mansion as an option opens up MDE for the inexperienced mongers. I Don't see that as a limitation to very experienced mongers such as yourself.
At the end of the day, it is great to have all these options so we can choose what gives us the most pleasure.
I have been to medellin 5 times over the last few years. Each time i have stayed at a mansion property: mansion 1 is like a frat house with english speakers and hot and cold running pretty younger girls. Mansion 2 is one block away and is also full of english speakers, but only has girls visiting guests and sometimes a few from the mansion 1 crew will sunbath or swim by the pool.
My first few trips were in 1 and then i learned to prefer 2. You pays your money and makes your choice. The mansion is a program that may meet your needs and likes or might be all wrong for you. It is expensive us$80 to us$120 per night with breakfast. Some rooms are gorgeous and very well kept and others are in need of updating. I 4+star hotel in the same area will cost us$60 to us$80 per night. There is an active short term apartment rental industry which is a bit less expensive.
The program: a stocked pond with vetted girls who are generally 18 to 24 years old and slender. Some are very experienced and skilled and others are not that skilled nor professional.
The mansion girl "rate" is in the range of us$70 to us$80 for a long hour. This is a higher end rate. The prices and services are negotiable. Most do bbbj and some do it very, very well. Other could use some instruction. The program is that the girls come in numbers to hang out from maybe 11am to 1am. During the afternoon and until maybe 10pm, frequently there are more girls than guests. Not every girl will work every day. The rates are attractive to keep girls who are not hardened and don't know how to make money by hustling and up selling. There are daytime houses that are like privados with some of the same girls charging much less. The owners intend to keep the place stocked with a pool of ever changing attractive pleasant girls. Guests who want to session multiple times daily do mix it up. Late morning house visit for us$30 and afternoon mansion girl and maybe a mansion girl at night or go out to either a less expensive or upper end place at night.
The good part of the program is that you get to hang out with the girls and can session or visit without knowing them in the biblical sense. You start to know some of the girls and they all gossip. If you are a good trick, the word gets out fast. I saw the owner throw out a guest for ripping off a few good girls eg underpaying or trying to force activities not agreed upon. Girls who play games or don't really belong there are asked to leave and barred.
I personally love the hanging out with the girls and pairing off--almost all very good experiences--generally gfe or pse that are fun and good.
The owners have maybe 24 rooms in total and are running a business. You do not get access to the program and their private club without staying there and paying the higher daily rate.
The mansion is not a place for lower cost monger vacation. You can do medellin for half the price, but creating your own program. The sister website to this site has a very active set of threads about medellin. There are many other options.
An up-to-date blog on Medellin living costs.
http://wanderingtrader.com/travel-blog/medellin/cost-living-medellin-colombia/
I have been to medellin 5 times over the last few years. Each time i have stayed at a mansion property: mansion 1 is like a frat house with english speakers and hot and cold running pretty younger girls. Mansion 2 is one block away and is also full of english speakers, but only has girls visiting guests and sometimes a few from the mansion 1 crew will sunbath or swim by the pool.
My first few trips were in 1 and then i learned to prefer 2. You pays your money and makes your choice. The mansion is a program that may meet your needs and likes or might be all wrong for you. It is expensive us$80 to us$120 per night with breakfast. Some rooms are gorgeous and very well kept and others are in need of updating. I 4+star hotel in the same area will cost us$60 to us$80 per night. There is an active short term apartment rental industry which is a bit less expensive.
The program: a stocked pond with vetted girls who are generally 18 to 24 years old and slender. Some are very experienced and skilled and others are not that skilled nor professional.
The mansion girl "rate" is in the range of us$70 to us$80 for a long hour. This is a higher end rate. The prices and services are negotiable. Most do bbbj and some do it very, very well. Other could use some instruction. The program is that the girls come in numbers to hang out from maybe 11am to 1am. During the afternoon and until maybe 10pm, frequently there are more girls than guests. Not every girl will work every day. The rates are attractive to keep girls who are not hardened and don't know how to make money by hustling and up selling. There are daytime houses that are like privados with some of the same girls charging much less. The owners intend to keep the place stocked with a pool of ever changing attractive pleasant girls. Guests who want to session multiple times daily do mix it up. Late morning house visit for us$30 and afternoon mansion girl and maybe a mansion girl at night or go out to either a less expensive or upper end place at night.
The good part of the program is that you get to hang out with the girls and can session or visit without knowing them in the biblical sense. You start to know some of the girls and they all gossip. If you are a good trick, the word gets out fast. I saw the owner throw out a guest for ripping off a few good girls eg underpaying or trying to force activities not agreed upon. Girls who play games or don't really belong there are asked to leave and barred.
I personally love the hanging out with the girls and pairing off--almost all very good experiences--generally gfe or pse that are fun and good.
The owners have maybe 24 rooms in total and are running a business. You do not get access to the program and their private club without staying there and paying the higher daily rate.
The mansion is not a place for lower cost monger vacation. You can do medellin for half the price, but creating your own program. The sister website to this site has a very active set of threads about medellin. There are many other options.But is this not like a Frat House atmosphere? I'm trying to understand this.
Thanks.
Tere are two hotel buildings seperated by a long block mansion 1 has about 12 rooms or so and may have visitors from mansion2. Typical afternoon might have 6 to 10 guys ages 40 to 60 who are english speakers hanging out by the pool. There might be 8 to 16 girls hanging out and coming and going. Some of the boys may order take lunch for some of the girls and them selves. Order a large bottle of booze and some large sodas. Add some music and an afternoon of relaxed fun. Some couple or three -some drift off and return.
Delta Indigo
12-24-14, 09:53
I was lucky enough to go to these two cities back to back. I just left BA yesterday. I was in MDE two weeks ago, where I frequent a lot more. I miss them both already.
General thoughts: Paisas like to party. They jump at the option of going to a nice restaurant and a regular club. BA girls; not so much. The clubs put pressure on the girls to come back to the club. In MDE, once the girl leaves, she is under no such pressure though she may still choose to do that for persona financial reasons. For my tastes, both Paisas and Baires chicas are equally good in the sac. Looks wise, they both have stunners but if you like them on average a bit taller, dig light color eyes and brown or blonde hair along with a nice tight latina ass, you will be in heaven in BA. Silicone breasts are equally common but gluteal implants are less common in BA (I hate those). In general, I like them all natural and I don't have trouble finding them in either of the cities. Romance latina, CO Cupid and Facebook add another dimension to MDE mongering that I do not have much info on re BA.
Hi,
First of all Vitrea, thank you for the great report.
To all concerned, I have a question to ask. I have been all over Europe, I have been to Slovakia many times, Bulgaria, Latvia, Poland etc. I have never seen girls in better shape than I have in Slovakia or Latvia. I have never been to Romania but from numerous FKK visits those girls are in remarkably good shape.
Now I am a bit confused, according to FAO obesity statistics Argentine girls are not at all thin, but everyone who has spoken to me says they are in remarkably good shape. Before I say the next thing, please do not be offended, since I am a home boy (from So Cal) like many of you, do the guys mean thin by American standards which can mean anything, or are girls in Buenos Aires really in great shape and very thin, I like them tall and thin.
Secondly I wonder if I can ask what shape Medellin girls are in compared to BA girls, I know BA girls are taller but are Medellin girls as thin?
Hi,
Now I am a bit confused, according to FAO obesity statistics Argentine girls are not at all thin, but everyone who has spoken to me says they are in remarkably good shape. Realize that the people on this board are reporting on the cream of the crop so to speak. NOT on the average girl on the street. Plus from what I have seen, most women in the city (Buenos Aires) are a little better dressed and cared for then in the provinces. That being said, there are a LOT of gordas out there. It seems that a lot of the population out side of the city is fat. The poorer people in my neighborhood survive (or so it seems) on that Argie pan casero that they sell everywhere and coke. Then they sit around all day bitching and moaning and drinking mate. Its amazing that in this country most of the poor seem to be overweight.
Delta Indigo
12-24-14, 12:59
Realize that the people on this board are reporting on the cream of the crop so to speak. NOT on the average girl on the street. Plus from what I have seen, most women in the city (Buenos Aires) are a little better dressed and cared for then in the provinces. That being said, there are a LOT of gordas out there. It seems that a lot of the population out side of the city is fat. The poorer people in my neighborhood survive (or so it seems) on that Argie pan casero that they sell everywhere and coke. Then they sit around all day bitching and moaning and drinking mate. Its amazing that in this country most of the poor seem to be overweight.Hi Gandolf,
I have a fascination for Argentina since I love Argentine beefs and Malbec, however I did think the reputation of the women in BA is not entirely deserved. There must be many nice one here, but I doubt they could compare to Slovakia or Romania to name just a few places. I am wondering about the average girl on the street, in Slovakia she will still be great looking, but maybe not here.
If you are outside of the most needy indigent countries, it is the poor that tend to be fat and the wealthier tend to be thinner. In the US and Europe this is the case and in India it would be the converse. So that means in Argentina the poor do not tend to go hungry, is that true?
I wonder if I may trouble you with two additional questions, how thin / heavy are average girls in BA and have girls gotten heavier over time, are they heavier than 10 years ago. The internet seems to say that girls are very thin in BA, but they might be only in upscale touristy locales and so on. I went to university in UCLA the girls looked very hot then, but when I visit my parents in Long Island, they are nothing to write home about.
Once again, thank you for your input and the information, how long have you lived in Argentina? Gandolf?
Well, first of all, whoever told you the women in BA are taller than the women in Medellín is full of shit. I'd say the average height is about 160 cm. Second of all, when dealing with argie women, your first concern is for their teeth and not for their waistline. Third of all, I have also been to the Slovak Republic (they don't like it when you say "Slovakia") and the women there are the exact physical opposite of argie women, weight aside. They are short, dark, have brown hair and eyes, and generally smaller tits. You will not find anything even remotely approaching the tall, buxom blonds of Bratislava.
Delta Indigo
12-24-14, 15:46
Well, first of all, whoever told you the women in BA are taller than the women in Medelln is full of shit. I'd say the average height is about 160 cm. Second of all, when dealing with argie women, your first concern is for their teeth and not for their waistline. Third of all, I have also been to the Slovak Republic (they don't like it when you say "Slovakia") and the women there are the exact physical opposite of argie women, weight aside. They are short, dark, have brown hair and eyes, and generally smaller tits. You will not find anything even remotely approaching the tall, buxom blonds of Bratislava.Slovakia tends to have a mix of blonds and brunettes, what I like about them is their general shape, tall and thin. I like both light and dark women, Polish women are light in general and Romanians are dark, however Romanian women are in great shape, even if they are shorter, they tend to be quite thin.
I was quoting the originator of this thread who said that women in BA are "slightly taller" than women in Medellin. I am really interested in your opinion Dickhead. So I gather women that you would find women in BA generally thin, is hat right? Do you think that women in Medellin are in equally good shape or better?
Slovakia tends to have a mix of blonds and brunettes, what I like about them is their general shape, tall and thin. I like both light and dark women, Polish women are light in general and Romanians are dark, however Romanian women are in great shape, even if they are shorter, they tend to be quite thin.
I was quoting the originator of this thread who said that women in BA are "slightly taller" than women in Medellin. I am really interested in your opinion Dickhead. So I gather women that you would find women in BA generally thin, is hat right? Do you think that women in Medellin are in equally good shape or better?I think obesity is not a huge issue in Argentina. I think a higher percentage of colombianas go to the gym as compared to argentinas. In my opinion the thing to do in Argentina is fuck paraguayas. Now there is a country that knows how to fuck! I would disagree they are slightly taller in BA than in MDE. I would argue the opposite by 2 or 3 centimeters. Latinas are pretty much all gonna be short, though, 90% of them. For example, the average height for a man in Perú is 160 cm.
I have been all over Argentina and the tallest women there are to be found in the Welsh triangle of Rawson, Trelew, and Puerto Madryn. In fact I believe the best looking women in Argentina are to be found there, although I am partial to formoseñas as well.
Delta Indigo
12-24-14, 21:05
I think obesity is not a huge issue in Argentina. I think a higher percentage of colombianas go to the gym as compared to argentinas. In my opinion the thing to do in Argentina is fuck paraguayas. Now there is a country that knows how to fuck! I would disagree they are slightly taller in BA than in MDE. I would argue the opposite by 2 or 3 centimeters. Latinas are pretty much all gonna be short, though, 90% of them. For example, the average height for a man in Per is 160 cm.
I have been all over Argentina and the tallest women there are to be found in the Welsh triangle of Rawson, Trelew, and Puerto Madryn. In fact I believe the best looking women in Argentina are to be found there, although I am partial to formoseas as well.Okay so I gather you think Colombian girls have marginally better bodies, the last question I am going trouble you with if I may, where do you think they are prettier, namely have prettier faces? Colombia (Medellin) or Argentina (BA)?
For me the most attractive girls I have ever seen were in Ukraine. I have never been to Belgrade, but they are supposed to be great in Serbia as well.
Okay so I gather you think Colombian girls have marginally better bodies, the last question I am going trouble you with if I may, where do you think they are prettier, namely have prettier faces? Colombia (Medellin) or Argentina (BA)?
For me the most attractive girls I have ever seen were in Ukraine. I have never been to Belgrade, but they are supposed to be great in Serbia as well.My personal opinion is that paisas have prettier faces than porteñas but and importantly, if you go to MDE a majority of the gals are paisas or at least antioqueñas. Whereas, if you go to Buenos Aires, very few of the working girls will be porteñas. Probably 30% of the hookers in BsAs are paraguayan (and that's a good thing). I have not been any further east than Budapest, not the Ukraine or Belgrade. Most attractive women I have ever seen would be Copenhagen.
Now you may say, 'Why not just go to Paraguay?' I did, three times. There is absolutely nothing else there but pussy. Nothing.
PirateMorgan
12-25-14, 11:19
One thing stands out about Medellin girls. They are sweet. The people in Medellin are the nicest people and the girls are really really dolls. Go to a casa and for an hour you will think she is your girlfriend. Meet girls on Cupid and your calendar will be full of really nice girls of all types. You will get what you invest in Medellin by just being a straight up guy. Or you can just 'go sluming' for the night' because anything is available. Go to Parqe LLeras and meet a starlet!
Delta Indigo
12-25-14, 19:10
One thing stands out about Medellin girls. They are sweet. The people in Medellin are the nicest people and the girls are really really dolls. Go to a casa and for an hour you will think she is your girlfriend. Meet girls on Cupid and your calendar will be full of really nice girls of all types. You will get what you invest in Medellin by just being a straight up guy. Or you can just 'go sluming' for the night' because anything is available. Go to Parqe LLeras and meet a starlet!Okay Dickhead has sold Medellin to me over BA. But I love ass, do the girls in Medellin or BA have cuter asses?
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