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Madaho Report,
After a late dinner with friends it was time to explore, even though it was 2 am. I think it was a little too late on a friday because my usual haunts (yes, even Hook) were busy and No Talent available. So a trip to Madaho was in order.
Madaho use to be one of my favorites, but is beginning to slip into the category of Black's for me. Even though they treat me well there and there is some quality to be had, the prices are getting steep and the experience not what it use to be or what I prefer.
Prices are 25p for my beer, 50p (times 2) for the lady and I was quoted 300p for the encounter. No luck negotiating this one except she agreed to 100 US (280p) and promised a memorable experience with No Time Limit because she didn't have to return to the club for a check-in. I said ok, and off we went.
Once again Remember: There is No Correlation between fees paid and quality of service! Even though she had physical attributes second to none, please don't tell me BBBJ and slyly slip one on during the act. I knew it, but chose not to make an issue of it.
Madaho is slipping into the DNR (do not return) category for me and I'm just thankful I wasn't the Americano 4 ft away being quoted 1000p (Yup) by some "eye lash flashing" hot blonde who looked very familiar. Not quite sure what happened there, but I would love to know the outcome.
The good news is: I am collecting some Great Photos (w/ their permission of course) for your viewing pleasure.
Stay tuned,
MM
Exon, it's in the bank my friend!
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Chances are very good that I will be spending the first week of May in Buenos Aires for a little fun. Who else will be in town during that time? PM me with contact info if you're interested in joining me to smoke fat cigars, to eat thick steaks (and sweetbreads too!;)), and find women of questionable morals to drill.
Is the San Isidro horse track still running or is the meet over?
-Uncle Otto
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I want to second MM on his posting about Madaho. The place is becoming increangly demanding and would deserve a sharp decline in business to learn a lesson. Unfortunately, Black docet, that won't likely happen, as there is always some idiot with a loose wallet. Until few weeks ago I was still able to perform some stunts like take a girl out for 100p with a single chica drink and no entrance, but I won't even try anymore. The negotiation effort is just too much.
A brighter note. This apartment at 4831-9743 has now a pretty and young brazilian, Monica, working now for 100p, 75 mins. Delivery to my place for cab fare. Convinced her to BBBJ when I told her that I was to send her back. Friendly service but not really passionate, thing that I think is unfair because she orgasms strong.
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Well, one time when I was with Hysteromania and Capital B and we were walking on Marcelo T near Kilkenny's, we saw two women and I said they were hookers and they said they weren't, so I offered one of them $10 US to show us her tits. But that was just to prove a point.
How much would I offer to feel some gal's tits in Buenos Aires? It depends on the tits! But not 50. I can get laid for 50 at Maipu (accent marks don't work on these fucking military computers) 429 for that, or I can fuck the fake Alejandra at Avenida de Mayo 1316 twice for that and have enough left over for five liters of Brahma.
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Madahos
I have to agree with the Mouse! Madahos has become a place to avoid now that they have raised the chica drink prices to $50-$80 and the girls have decided their pussies are made of platinum (as opposed to platynum!)
My last session there not only was a tedious negotiation (on a night when there were twice as many chicas as clients), but, surprise surprise, the negotiated 2 hours turned into about 45 minutes after the deed was done. I would rather part company then force a reluctant chica to stay, but I think they are getting a real attitude problem there and need to return to reality!
It would be naive to think that a WSG boycott of Madahos is either possible or would have much effect, but perhaps anyone who does go there might make as much noise as possible about the new rates, and leaving alone does not go unnoticed by either the staff or the chicas!
It is possible that there are enough of us to agree on another club to frequent and attempt to display a little free-market pressure on both the management and untimately the girls still at Madahos to change there ways! I will be spending more time at Affaire myself, and telling the girls and the management why as well.
Just a thought...
David
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First timer report BA 4-2004
I was inexperienced as possible and unprepared for this trip, except for Pimsluer Spanish 1 – 2 and of course WSG. I am not an experienced traveler nor had I ever utilized pay for play. I was going to turn fifty no matter what, so I was going to BA to see if any of this was real!
What an unbelievable two weeks I had!
Madahos; MIREZA;A 24 yr 5’6’’ Paraguayan dressed in a white pokadot skirt and short burgundy streaked hair, gives a great hug and a warm, wet kiss to my neck. I am lost in her eyes and I feebly negotiate two hours for 100USD. A great kisser, allowed me full access to explore and sample her beautifull body. BBBJ offered without asking. Her pelvis must have been genetically engineered for sex, my little one was toss, turned and twisted. Best sex, hottest girl in 20years. Hour two opened to her crying(yes real crockodile tears). Her babiy is sick, her mother is in the hospital, she has to wake up early and the best part. She will make up another hour for me tomorrow. I felt like I was reading someone elses report! But I think, given the chance, I would repeat.
El Aleman’s CARMEN; a more robust woman, lovely person very romantic and soft.
Details withheld by request.
Hook; VIOLETA; a 21 yr blonde spinner. A fun little sister type, quick to sock you in the arm, quick to jump into you wrapping her arms an legs around while planting a big kiss. She was a blast to hang with. BBBJ, great kisser, does not watch the clock. Saw her three times. I will see her again if possible.
Hook; JUILETA; a 22 yr Paraguayan with quite a few tattoes. Stunning to look at. A pain in the ass to deal with. Beautiful hands and feet. Gorgeous tits, ass and everything was off limits! “That hurts”, “That tickles” ect,ect,ect. The only good thing is she was determined to finish me of quickly and she set upon me with a pelvic vengeance of biblical proportions. Best objective raw sex in my life. I was beginning to understand the love/hate relationship with Paraguayans. Even bad sex with a Paraguayan is great sex.
200 pesos for a little over an hour. No tip.
Nvidia: Fabiana; a 24 yr 5’7’’ warm caring beautiful woman. Met her at Nvidia, saw her mostly on the side (four times). She warmed up slowly and by the end of my trip she was like an old girl friend. I felt wonderful with her and I think of her often.
CuttySark: Angie; a 19 yr Paraguayan who was scared and not interested in me. Cute and age verified. Once again, no GFE but just a wild pelvic ride. Damn those Paraguayans can move! 200 peso 1.5 hrs no wish to repeat.
Gemidos: Barbarella; proof that you can smoke too much pot! Not attractive in person at all. Smoked more pot then did the deed.
OTHERS; Like everyone I have a special lady that I will not speak of, and I have ones too horrible to share.
Thanks to all who PM me encouragement to try BA.
Thanks to all who have posted. I will return and take photos next time.
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Report from Suipacha 921 6c, Hooks, and Cattos:
Well, here it is, my first report on Argentina night scene, hope it isn't too dull.
12:00 AM: Went to Suipacha apartment first, only two chicas, Candela and a brunette (can't remember her name), choose Candela (who kissed me on my mouth during presentation, so I chose her) for a $100, 1 hour session. She's blonde (fake), small tits, nice butt and legs, (she'd look much better with a little exercising) smoked two cigarettes during session, which threw me off a little.
DFK, BBBJ, but she wasn't too "deeply involved in it" (I think she was afraid I'd cum inside her mouth), DATY, MPCS. When asked how much for her colita, she said "you'll have to give me a regalito of $50" I declined, so we did MPCS during rest of session.
Regular rated experience, I'd say. When properly done, I love good BBBJ, but she wasn't that much into it, keep saying dirty sex phrases that bored me too quickly.
1:00 AM Went to Cattos, checked talent, wasn't in the mood to get a girl, couple of doable ones, though, saw brunette with blue top, white pants, little breasts, nice ass and legs. May look for her I if time permits.
1:15 AM Hooks, saw a little less quality than Cattos. Female bartender looks untrustworthy, (or perhaps I was paranoid she'd rip me off right away) seemed pissed off when I stared at waiting for my 3 pesos change. On my way out, host asked why I was leaving alone, I told I had to get up early for a city tour, which I did. Chatted with him a little, seemed a nice person.
1:45 Back to Cattos, had a couple of beers, then got back at hotel for sleep.
I haven't that much money to spend mongering, so any advice or ideas you'd like to share?
If anyone would like to chase around some chica apartments and clubs, you can contact me by PM.
Have fun and safe adventures!
Carlos
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[quote]Her babiy is sick, her mother is in the hospital, she has to wake up early and the best part. She will make up another hour for me tomorrow. I felt like I was reading someone elses report! But I think, given the chance, I would repeat. [/quote]
More encouragement not to pay upfront
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Mininus wrote:
" quote: Her babiy is sick, her mother is in the hospital, she has to wake up early and the best part. She will make up another hour for me tomorrow. I felt like I was reading someone elses report! But I think, given the chance, I would repeat.
More encouragement not to pay upfront"
This happened to me with a Madahos girl last month. It happened to Capt. Dave and now Nuevo Espanol. It seems there is a pattern emerging. They are asking for higher prices 300 peso or $100 USD. They 're lying about the amount time they'll spend with you then coming with some lame excuse to cut out early. Finally, they are asking to be paid up front.
In my case I thought it was just an isolated case, however with the number of mongers who are reporting the same story, it appears this is organized.
I agree with Capt Dave, boycott Madahos. The Recoleta scene, with the exception of the diamond in Newport or Affaire, is overpriced and overrated, in my opinion.
Take you business to Hook, Ness or Cattos or blaze a new trail. I reported last month that a group of us mongers, including Andreas, had stopped off at Rio Cabana. There was some hot young talent there. I definately plan on checking this place out on my next trip.
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Capt Dave -
I wonder sometimes what percentage of the guys in Madahos are WSG readers. Your post resonated with me, and I think Jackson was the one, not to long ago, that infered that this was the type of thing that the power of the forum should be able to exert (okay, I think it was about the Hooks counterfeit A$100 and the rip-off waiter).
Things seem to be quickly deteriorating at Madahos. The post I made a month ago, about my amiga telling me the management said no leaving with a gringo for under US$100, seems to be coming on(along with more crappy chica attitudes). The posts from MM on describe a situation that is getting out of control. I think a boycott for a period of time is worthwhile - stop in for awhile to be verbal about the stories we're hearing and then walk out letting it be known why you're leaving and how you don't like the place anymore. I think enough word would get around pretty quickly. I'm even thinking about mentioning to my amiga on the phone next time (the one who works at Madahos) how a lot of guys are complaining that they are going to give up on the place(and the reasons why).
Anybody have any ideas on what our clout could be if we make a point of making noise in any way possible?
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Nuevo,
It was good to meet you, and I had a blast hanging out with you. In my opinion, for a first visit you did it right.
As for Madahos, I began my boycott during my last trip and I didn't miss a thing. I believe that the management there is trying to compete with Black in the upscale market without the benefit of being located accross the street from the Alvear. I just wonder if el Jefe would support a boycott of the place.
EZE
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I agree with Madaho's being past it's glory. My experience there a month ago was not good. I could have just been in Black. I didn't pull even one girl out of there. The problem, each and every girl wouldn't go for less than $100. Whatever. Looking back they did me a favor. I found greener pastures elsewhere. Instead of getting a stuck up princess who would be doing me a favor by taking a $100 of my money. I found women that were grateful to get my 150-200 pesos. I've put Madaho's on the same list as Black. I'll stop by to window shop once a trip, but other than a drink, I'm not spending any money there. I'm still on good terms with the employees, many of which remember from my numerous previous tips. But whenever one asks me in the future why I haven't picked a girl. I'll let them know exactly why.
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It's funny. I had a similar experience in Feb. when I was out with el jefe. He had advised me that the going rate was 200 pesos. I targeted a woman that I sawand talked with her until the point that she didn't have to return that night. She would not budge from 300 pesos.
I didn't want to pay that since that was more than I ever paid in BA, and I didn't want to look like a punk in front of el jefe, so we didn't seal the deal.
I feel better that it wasn't just me, but it's a shame this place operates like this now.
I wonder if $50-$80 pesos for the drinks (ridiculous) is just for gringos or for locals as well.
I'll join the boycott as well.
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I shall give a personal report from the belly of the beast next week.
Till then, let me remind you fellows about the amount of money some of you are pissing and moaning about: The difference between 200 and 300 pesos is exactly 33 dollars.
I'll bet a lot of the problems encountered here have more to do with personal hygene, lack of Spanish fluency and unfamiliarity with the art of negotiating than with any price-fixing conspiracy with the Madaho's trixies.
The last time I was in Madaho's, as a matter of fact, I NEVER discussed price with the girlie I ended up drilling. I just left 220 pesos in her purse when she was ready to leave. And I know she had a smile on her face, too. I have no doubt that next week, she'll be on me like a bee on a flower (or a fly on shit! ;)).
There is much more to mongering than price.
-Uncle Otto
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I don't look at it like 'it's just 33 dollars'. I look at it like 50% over the going price. If I can't afford an extra 33 dollars, then I wouldn't be travelling to BA in the first place. But I don't want to pay 50% over the going price just because someone thinks I'm a sap.
I think the attitude that 'it's just 33 dollars' is what gets prices raised in a place like Madahos in the first place.